Jose Mourinho has revealed that after Porto knocked Manchester United out of the European Cup, following a match-deciding decision by the linesman, Sir Alex Ferguson and Gary Neville were dignified in defeat and congratulated his players.
“You would have thought we had won the World Cup,” said Mourinho. “And then there was a knock on the door. It was Alex, with Gary Neville. As they came in, everybody fell silent, respectful. The party stopped. The party was over. And, as Gary Neville went round shaking hands with my players, Alex shook hands with me and said that, after the press conference, I was invited to come to his office for a drink. What a special person it was, I thought, who would do anything to win but, if he lost, still do that. At that moment I made a decision. It was that, if I ever came to England, I would follow this example.”
I can only assume that after he got the Chelsea job, he changed his mind.
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Its a shame that in this day and age, being dignified in defeat is such a big deal. We are taught to shake hands with your openents after a game from a young age in England, i guess the rest of the world are shocked by this.
Once again TNSSO tarting himself up for the Utd job
He is so desperate for the number 1 job in world football…he’s even using Real as a stepping stone for Utd
Lets hope Fergie sees sense and informs the board to stay clear of TNSSO
That last sentence ha ha so true
That loss still pains, it’s almost like the Bayern one of last season. I also think United should stay clear of JM, his philosophy doesn’t match United’s
Mourinho would not come because we are skint what is happening at scousers will happen to us.If we dont want mourinho who do we want hodgson megson phil brown.for fuck sake.we want the best and the best is mourinho.Did any 1 see hacks on sky sun morn neil custis was on he said he has seen bebe and he said he is worth 70 grand not 7 million
pritch – How are we gonna go the same way as the dippers? We cannot compare the two clubs.
Custis is a fat fucking cunt. Take no notice of the mugs on sunday supp. Remember just before the Carling Cup final Wenger lover Barclay said Villa would be far too strong for United and would walk the game. All his “mates” agreed. Yeah look how that turned out Barclay ya prick.
lol fergie has class, unlike that non hand shaking arsene!
@pritch if having a 165mill in the bank for players is your idea of being skint can i come to your next party please,
its nothing to do with the money for mourinho think about it he’s achieved pretty well everything its all about cementing himself as one of the greatest ever and what better way to do that is take over from sir alex and continue to win things, very few managers will be able to handle the scrutiny and comparisons i think mourinho looks upon it as his greatest challenge i know alot of the lads don’t like him but for me he’s the right man for the job
I don’t think I would have shaken their hands after that game. So much bad blood. And as if that wasn’t enough, Fergie and Nev did the guard of honour a year later for Mourinho’s Chelsea. And despite all that, some still say that Fergie is always bitter in defeat.
“That loss still pains, it’s almost like the Bayern one of last season”
Two of the most painful defeatst because you felt robbed by officials. There was also a great chance of winning both times. The Porto one hurts more though (probably compunded by the last minute gaffe by Howard and the fact that Porto were found guilty of match-fixing two of their league games that season. The linesman vs United obviously had a shocker, as did the ref in the first leg. Porto’s decisive penalty against Deportivo in the semi was very dubious as well, but I guess there’s little/no evidence of them match-fixing in Europe.)
i still dont want to look ahead , i wont even think about it until the inevitable happens….till then ill enjoy the ride…
my last msg was about SAF
I bet any money the FSW doesn’t think SAF is graceful in defeat lol.
@wayne i agree with you about mourinho i hopehe comes here. we have just lost 80 milion the debt is 700 mil in my book we are skint because of those ugly yank bastards they will end up taking the club the plug if we dont do something
@willierenut
Lol, well he is no Mother Teresa either. When Mourinho left England, he was the only manager who didn’t even a pay a tribute to him. Even the man Mourinho called a voyeur had a kind word to say about him.
Classy and professional of SAF and Gary Nev to do that. It was a bitter “loss”…one of those games I’d prefer not to be reminded about..
@willie and costas…LOL…oh, I think you miss the FSW… I do, esp. now that LFC has been losing..would have been interesting to see his reaction.
@RedGem
Yeah I miss the clown.
Plus, Roy Hodgson doesn’t deserve the critisism for all the crap that Benithez put together and then dumped on him.
@Big Phil… I understand what you mean but given the circumstances, I don’t think I could have been magnanimous in that defeat/robbery.
RedGem – Missing him, might be pushing it a bit, but i did love his infamous rant against SAF.
Mourinho was a great manager end of story
@Costas…yes, it’s such a pity that Hodgson landed himself in a mess by joining them.. and you’re right, the FSW was a clown and I hope he doesn’t win anything with Inter.
@willie…that was tongue-in-cheek…but I miss seeing his irritating, miserable face esp. when they lose a game..that’s always a nice sight!
Talking of the FSW I was watching a rerun of the penalty shoot out from 05 against the Chav’s in the semi final. Anyone remember the fat cunt sat crossed legged on the floor whilst the penalties were being taken? Clown. The man went down hill faster than a skier. When he came to England he was quite trim and young looking. Fast forward 5 years and he was a broken man. Fat as fuck, head in bits and a rash all over his mush. Thats what the dippers do!
He was consumed by SAF.
@willie…yes, with envy…
@eric… oh, yes, I love what happened to him!
Another Mourinho love in for the job
I swear `i’ve never seen anyone start a job application so early
I wonder if the gaffer’s got a hand in it
Willie & RedGem: oh he’ll be back after screwing inter times over…
he’d be the best thing to happen in italy at the moment… It’s been borin to see just one team winnin there!
@willie…LOL… and I love that phrase “love is” although it sounds gross and lusty..
yeah, the used-to-be special one does covet SAF’s post….
@ redrider….LOL..I’d be celebrating!
I personally hope that Mourinho never touches United. It will be tough enough for the next guy, lets not make it harder on him by having his gracelessness Mourinho anoint SAF’s chair for 2-3 seasons before getting bored and moving on. Honestly, United is bigger than SAF. Sir Alex knows this. Mourinho doesn’t. United has always had a bit of class, Mourinho never has. It would be like bringing more poison to the theater of dreams. Maybe I am a bit biased, I can’t stand managers who jet set around, dabbling in things for a year or 4, then moving on. Likewise, can’t stand clubs that have this philosophy, take the virus and chelskie. Can you imagine our state if after SAF, we get the special one. Just imagine yourself defending this guy to your buddies?!. He would win a league or two with our talent. Sell off the juniors, buy some crap then leave us with an aging team. But then, we get handed to a less prestigious guy who gets hounded out just because the fans were eating their own that day. Personally think it would be alright if we had a lesser manager who had the right philosophy, the right character. Let him put his mark on things.
Don’t turn this in to another Mourinho for United debate, everyones made their feelings known.
This is actually becoming quite amusing. Mourinho seems desperate to get Fergie’s vote over who succeeds him at Old Trafford and he’s not afraid to show it either. After spending summer after summer listen to Ronaldo dream about going to Real Madrid I find it very funny to see their manager so obviously and unashamedly trying to butter up the powers that be at Old Trafford so he can get Sir Alex’s job someday.
@King Eric
Is this what you mean?
http://play.evrocom.net/forum/uploads/1231863066/gallery_7529_7_689.jpg
Credit where credit’s due Sir Alex doesn’t have the best reputation when it comes to being dignified in defeat so stories like this are welcome!
FletchTHEMAN – Could we defend Mourinho to our friends, if he got the job? Yes, of course we would. We defended Ronaldo, when he was accused of being a diver. We defended Keano, when other fans would say he’s a dirty player, that’s what fans do, defend their players and their club.
“I can only assume that after he got the Chelsea job, he changed his mind.”
LMAO here Scott. Nice one.
@costas thats fucking funny @fletchtheman i don’t think he’d move on in two or three seasons he seems sincere in regards to his love for english football and utd were would he go i really believe utd is his dream job
@Costas…BWHAHAHAHA!! That picture is hilarious! Thanks for posting.
Who else’s got the CV to fill in the seat? I’d want Moyes…But is he good enough?
@Willierednut, Just a political stunt man to me, bit more concerned about the way of the winning, not just the winning. Special one was just quoted as pipping A$Hly Cole to be the most capped player in english history. One ? role model pipping another. Isn’t that nice for them.
But back on point, Name a manager of one of the top 4, trading over to another of the top 4? Don’t imagine there is much precedent in the last 30 years. Would seem quite unheard of to me, but maybe I don’t know my managerial history. Think it is all a load of mourinho envy, anyway.
FletchMAN – I want the best manager for the job, and that for me is Mourinho. Saying that, whoever the club appoint will get my support.
Mourinho is the best man for the United job. It takes real balls from him to fancy himself for the greatest management job in football, and believe me, he has the bottle to execute and fuck over the Premier League with our great club.
So far, the anti-Mourinho brigade have come with the following:
1. He has no class. Ha
2. He doesn’t play the United way. Even if the ‘United way’ involves satisfaction with draws to mid-table teams…
3. He will leave United after a couple of seasons. Where next to exactly? France or Germany? He has managed Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid, the top 3 countries in Europe, winning as many European Cups as SAF.
You lot are as classless in your dim view of the only man EVER to really challenge SAF.
IT IS FUNNY, BECAUSE THE ONE THING YOU CAN’T SEEM TO CRITICISE IS HIS ACTUAL MANAGEMENT COMPETENCE AND PEDIGREE.
Oh, but of course, all his successes were luck. Of course SAF hasn’t HAD the tiniest grain of luck … I have no more to say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYZgQysNCM
and:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcSt08-Qy50
No great manager can do without luck.
OK, then, didn’t call you classless for your view. Think I was just describing my own.
But fine, enjoy your view. I have a different one. Moscow, have a great day fella.
On a United front. Rio has the armband for Tuesday. Good on you Rio, and good on you Capello
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/8056028/England-v-Montenegro-captaincy-a-great-honour-says-Rio-Ferdinand.html
FletchTHEMAN
I should not have called anyone ‘classless’. I apologise to you and all the posters on ROM.
Don’t think we should go in to this debate about the next boss, I’m dreading the day Sir Alex hangs up his long Black coat.
Only man who can take united forward after SAF.
For everyone who says he wont stay for a long time use some common sense. The reason he has managed in the other TOP leagues is so that he can stay at United for a long time. For people criticizing his way of winning i didnt see fans celebrating less when we played poorly and won the title in 2009 or when SAF sets defensive teams against Barcelona.
AIG
Spot on mate.
AIG – For once, I agree totally. The best man should take over from SAF and that’s Mourinho.
Costas – Ha ha . Yes mate that picture is EXACTLY what I mean.
Don’t discount Ole. There is obviously a reason he turned his home town club down and said he would love the job at OT!!
Fletch – Spot on pal. I fucking hate the smug cunt. Having said that if he ever did get the job I am sure we would all come round.
United has traditions and class. Neither of which this twat has.
King Eric – Don’t think Ole will get it, he done an interview on talksport, of all places, saying he needs to go and learn his trade first.
Hi Willie. No neither do I mate , not yet anyway. United means absolutely nish to Maourinho, its all about him and his cv. He is fucking horrible.
People can say United were poor in 09 but they still did it the “United way” 2 -0 down to Spurs then a show of proper attacking football. He does not embrace any of the values of United and never will.
Moscow – No need to start name calling just cos some do not happen to want Mourinho anyway near OT.
It has GOT to be someone for whom United is in their blood.
There was a time when I thought Roy Keane might be in the running, could you imagine the press conferences lol.
For the sake of voicing an opinion I for one would never want JM anywhere near OT. I remember an interview many years ago with Sir Bobby Charlton where he talked about the UNITED way and that is to entertain and play with passion and pride.
I would rather watch great football as I have been for 35 years at United and get entertained then to be bored to death with some hope of winning a trophy. We have not done so badly by entertaining over the years have we?
Inter Milan’s run to the CL trophy last season was one of the most negative football I have seen for years
CedarsDevil – Really? Away to Chelsea, they outplayed them. Home to Barca, they outplayed them also.
@ willie
Fair point my friend, JM at OT seems to be the most arguable debate amongst UNITED fans, so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree!
(Not on much more I am sure!)
CedarsDevil – True. I’m still hoping that SAF can be cloned lol.
willie
Now that is a THOUGHT to dream about! lol
I have a funny feeling that sparky could be our next manager.
Lawman. Hmm. Interesting.
@Lawman, Like your thinking personally, someone with some United roots. But think that idea died on a day in June in 2008, and not helped by the bitters PR machine over the subsequent year. I kind of think it will come out of the blue, but this is like predicting the fall of a 32 headed coin in my view.
Of our own, I would guess the timing would be best for Quieros or McClaren, though wouldn’t be my choice. Bruce and Solskjaer are pipe dreams, no international or european experience and not likely to get it in time. Maybe van Gaal or Blanc are still in the frame. van Gaal would do nicely and was tops of the many lists in 2002-4.
You left out Pep and the special one.
@Willerednut, I was just about to toddle off. You already know I am not a fan of special one, as we agree to disagree on that one. Think Pep would have build something for me to be that impressed. Also think he would not be in the least bit interested. Never say never, but don’t think either one will happen. McClaren, Blanc and van Gaal, have all got some impressive building aspects to their respective resumes. Personally, doubt any will get the nod, I was just trying to follow King Eric and Lawman toward names that might actually be in contention due to United roots, or in the case of van Gaal a previous strong link.
Pleasant dreams lads, 5 days Until we have something to really cheer about. Come on United.
Mciaren,Quieroz?. Are you having a laugh?. Both would take us down the drain. At united we have to aim for the best and Jose is the best out there and by some distance.
Also the point about SAF playing defensively away in Europe is totally ignored. When we beat Valencia a few weeks back playing poor and with a defence minded team someone said on ROM ‘thats the way we have always done away in Europe’. Fans have to find stupid excuses to not wanting Mourinho as the united manager. 160 odd home games unbeaten and counting. What a record
Having Mou as our manager has its share of advantages and disadvantages..Yeah he’s super ambitious, tactically astute, the teams he has managed have got fantastic home records,guarantees you trophies..On the flip side he’s egoistic, does not play beautiful football, has so far not shown that he can bring through youngsters..1 thing the pro-Mou fans are forgetting is he has never shown that he can build teams over a long period..2-3 years at porto,2 years at chelsea,2 years at inter and I’m guessing it will be the same at real..Building teams for short term success is one thing but constantly building quality teams year after year like SAF is a totally different ball game..
And people who are of the opinion that Mou will settle down once he comes to Utd..I have to disagree with you on this point..This guy is always on the look out for challenges..Lets say he wins the treble with us on his first season..Knowing Mou, he will be thinking along the lines..”well I managed the biggest club in Europe, won the treble with them so what next??”..I won’t be surprised if he goes to city after managing us..maybe he will help them win a trophy..
So bottom line is good manager but serious question marks over his commitment to a club and his ability to constantly build quality teams season after season..
aig – Its fuck all to do with “stupid excuses” Some people just do not want to see the arrogant smug, egotistical cunt anywhere near Old Trafford. If you cannot see what a twat he is then fair enough. I guess some people wanna see trophy after trophy at whatever the cost. Not for me.
Utd4life – There’s nothing to suggest, that whoever replaces SAF will stay at the club for more than 5 years. People need to get this notion out of their heads. There will never be a manager like SAF, that’ll stay at a club for 20 odd years. I don’t have a problem with Mourinho, only managing United for 4 or 5 years. That gives Ole, or whoever it might be, the experience to succeed Mourinho, which they’ll most definitely need.
@willierednut
Fair point mate..There will never be another manager like SAF..I will be very surprised if Mou manages us for even 5 years..but hopefully we would have found someone from the Utd family to take over after he leaves..
That Porto defeat was one of the most hurtful European exits. Especially due to the fact that Scoles’ disallowed goal was at least 2 fucking yards ONSIDE. Then to see that twat run up the sideline punching the air after Howard’s fuck-up was excruciating.
Arselicking cunt. You will never be welcome at Old Trafford you S.O.B.
Kings – Hello mate. How ist? Sadly pal he would be welcomed with open arms by some on here. Cunt.
Oh ffs, he’s not Fred West lol.
AIG Alex,
Saw your post only now. Absolutely fair. The thread is several posts long by the one at 0:29. You will see we were discussing managers with United ties. With the idea that like SAF, he would have European experience and have won a first division championship. Of those, you have only McClaren, and Blanc. If you take away winning anything but still want European experience, then you can add Hughes. IF you had to choose from that list, I would take Blanc. The point would be to give a man a chance, like Alex got. Not take on a new approach to management that is more like the virus, bitters and chavs.
If we go outside the united family I personally would still hope for someone who believes in youth and believes in attacking football. I have said before that I really like van Gaal. Many believe he would have been named if SAF had stepped down in 2002-4. That ship may have sailed as I think he pulled out of the running saying he was too old. As to who, I am not actually going to put my finger on any name. I just am trying to have a discussion about style and substance. Cheers.
Sorry, the list of managers who have European experience but won nothing as a top manager should include Hughes AND Quieroz. Again, not pipping either.
King Eric – Hello mate, I’m good thanks. Hope you are well. I despise everything about him – he is a horrible cunt, a bad loser and extremely disrespectful to opposing managers – look at the way he accused Rijkaard of gamesmanship. If he takes over from the great Man as our manager, he will destroy all that is good about United in next to no time – he will take apart our youth set up and do away with it, forgoe our attacking traditions and replace that with dull, defensive, boring football, plus he will buy shit players and sell our best ones. People go on about the great job he done at Chelsea, overlooking the fact that he inherited a side that Ranieri assembled, the only decent purchases being Drogba, Carvalho and Essien. The former two are cunts and the latter was purchased on the strength of our interest. The key men in their title win of 2005 were Cech, Lampard and Robben, all of which were purchased by Ranieri. He is not welcome as far as I am concerned.
On a more pleasant note, did anyone watch ‘Looking for Eric’ on Channel 4 last Sunday? Great film – the man is a God!
He’ll take apart our youth setup and do away with it. A bit melodramatic Kings? I’ve always said, if he doesn’t adhere to our traditions and values, then he shouldn’t be considered for he job.
@Kings, You have summed all our fears up nicely. Also, not hard to assemble a top
side when all you have to do is purchase 2-3 players who will help you play slow boring football. If all you have to do is make a list of the top players and have an owner that will purchase 30year olds for 30M. The special one won’t be allowed to do that here.
My biggest fear isn’t appointing Mourinho, It’s appointing the wrong man, that could set us back years. hopefully Gill and the glazers will get the right man, because we can’t make the same mistakes, when SMB left the club.
Willierednut. I hear you mate.
Let me just throw out a real hair brained idea: Germany’s Joachim Löw.
Absolute crap at Club level but think he has found a voice coaching Germany.
For all of those who love attaching football, tell me that you didn’t ask, is that Germany?
Would absolutely love to see him come in under Fergie for a couple of years and see if it didn’t really make a difference. His wiki site is a very interesting read. Start with the section “head coach of Germany”.
willierednut – it is clear that he is going on the charm offensive in an attempt to get the job. He can tell people what they want to hear, but as soon as he gets what he wants, he’ll do whatever he likes, purely for the fact that he will get at least a 2 year contract and command a massive salary, so he has nothing to lose, just like he is at Madrid. So, therefore, what’s to stop him from destroying all that is good about United if the unthinkable happened and he got the job? You only have to look at what he has already done at Madrid – I’m talking about getting shot of Raul, something that no other Manager would have dreamt of doing as he was lauded as a God at that club. He will insist on doing things his way.
What’s getting rid of Raul, go to do with taking apart our youth setup? That was long over due imo any way, just look at Raul now, the guys best days are well behind him. You talk about Mourinho doing things his way, didn’t SAF do thing’s his way, when he came down from Scotland? He stopped the drink culture, got rid of Whiteside, Mcgrath and a few others. The point is, whoever gets the United job, will want to do things their way. I take on board the concerns of United fans, with appointing a guy like Mourinho, he does rub people up the wrong way, but no one can deny the guys a great manager.
He was laying down the marker is my point. If he is happy to do that then he will lay his marker down at United. I am fully aware that his days were behind him, but he was still number one at Real Madrid. Previous managers who dropped him, lost their jobs. The drinking culture was something that Ron Atkinson embraced and ulitmately cost us a chance to win any titles in the 80′s keeping in mind how we blew it in the final weeks. Fergie’s call to do away that was welcomed, but Mourinho’s objectives will not be welcomed, going by his previous. Mourinho never encouraged youth at Chelsea, so why would he at United. Manchester United are the pioneers of youth and this cunt will look to do away with it. That’s my opinion and I stand by that.
Mourinho never encouraged youth at Chelsea, so why would he at United. Simple really, he won’t have the big money at United, so he’ll have to bring through young players and play them.