Jamie Carragher has kept United fans happy recently, talking of his love for Sir Alex Ferguson and his respect for our football team.
“United have got that edge on us financially,” Carragher said. “Vidic is a classic case. He had a buyout clause of four or five million. We met that but United came along and paid seven or eight. But we can’t make excuses given the money we’ve spent.”
This is the side that have just spent £20 million on Robbie Keane, a player made to look better than he is by our very own Dimitar Berbatov, who didn’t even get in the squad for today’s Merseyside FA Cup derby. Complaining that we paid £7 million for Vidic, a paltry £2 million more than the buyout clause, is a bit soft. Let’s be honest, Vidic is the best centre half in the league on present form and the price we paid for him is a total bargain.
Carragher might be interested to know that on average, there has just been a difference of around £3 million a season for the past 10 years.
Anyway Jamie, keep up the good work otherwise. Tell us how much you love our manager again.
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Personally i think he is a secret united fan.
Personally, I think he is a wanka!
Who cares he is a dipper
Scott: Is Keane not even in squad? What the fuck, they can’t buy a goal at the moment.
Scholesyboy that comment is a classic, made me laugh so much because it followed the first comment. great.
Oh, ok he is a dipper tosspot as well lol
Vidic is the best defender in the league this season but the understanding is that it was only the buy-out clause that made him Liverpool’s first-choice ahead of Agger, who ended up costing at least £1-2m more than Vidic would have.
Stylistically, Agger complements Carragher better than Vidic would, just as Ferdinand complements Vidic better. So I think both clubs benefitted from the way that situation worked out.
As for the difference in spending, Liverpool have had to match Man U in the market over the past ten years simply to catch-up.
While Liverpool were laying foundations and building a house, Man U were putting a roof on the one they already built.
I really don’t understand all the bitching? Isn’t winning trophies what you should be aiming for? Isn’t that United have been doing?
Exactly Drew, and not whose accounts are balanced and look the best.
Alpha, Liverpool built their house a long time ago but bad management means than it now lies in tatters. Laying foundations? You call Pennant, Gonzalez, Dossena etc. Foundation? LOL
Liam, no need to be belligerent.
Throughout the 90′s, Man U were better managed than Liverpool in every department. That is what allowed them to pull away.
The point is that the money Liverpool have spent over the past ten years has had to go a lot further which is precisely why a lot of the signings have been hit and miss. When your manager has to settle for £6m Pennant because the budget won’t stretch to £14m Dani Alves, it stands to reason.
Ferguson’s recent transfer record is pretty impressive because it’s difficult to go wrong when you are in a position to spunk your entire load on one or two top-drawer players every time the window opens.
what about rafeal fabio possebon evans tosic, unearthed gems, over the last 10 years ysb’s av spent an average 3 million less per year, thats fuck all, you spunked 20 mil on keane when you could av got huntelaar for 15
Bit early to sing the praises of unproven kids, don’t you think? Not exactly unearthed gems either – there is no such thing anymore. Every top club in Europe knows where the talent is. Signing it is another matter.
The £3m less per year is the whole point of what I am saying – that £3m less per year has bought Liverpool many players in the £10m and one > £20m.
The £3m more per year has bought Man U a few < £10m, several < £20m, another few £30m.
So to simply say both clubs have spent a similar amount over the past ten years doesn’t tell the whole story.
i would say johny evans is, there is excitment around ot about the da silvas
heres a gem for ya alpha… ronaldo 12 million better than any player liverpool have ever had. Bargain.
Plus if u cant see getting a couple of clearly incredible brazilian twins for next to nothing with the obvious world class talent they have then you are not watching the same game.
plus arent liverpool flogging agger off now to ac milan???
skertl is better.
united have a better last 20-30years with youth developement.
carragher is shit.
Another thing to consider is that even though Ronaldo and Vidic had ended up in Liverpool, I am not convinced they would develop into the world-beaters they are now. Liverpool just dont have the creative environment where players with potential develop the most. So even if we spend the same amounts on players, I think we would still have the edge based on the focus on attacking and flair in Manchester United.
Alpha, I would beg to differ, it is very easy to go wrong if you put all your eggs into one basket! Just ask look at robbie keane. Many clubs have had their record signings look horrible. Sir Alex no exception, like Veron.
Alpha
Eh Dani Alves cost Barca 30m so not sure where 14m is coming from. United’s back 4 cost us 40m and most of that was a long term investment in Ferdinand a few years ago which has been paid back. Liverpool spend 10m odd on defenders every season. How is that better. We have 3 RBs. Brown, Neville and Rafael. All of whom including Evra cost as much as Dossena. So how is it the money that’s the problem? If United spend 30m a season but that helps them win trophies for which the prize money is greater than that does that not represent better value than the 25m(although it has been more in recent years) that L’pool spend a season? E.g. Does spending 14m on Nani and getting a talented youngster who with a bit of development become better constitute a better deal than spending 7 or 8 on both Pennant and Gonzalez only for them to move on once Rafa decides he needs a Babel for what Nani cost in the first place? The sooner Benitez gets fired the better for Liverpool. If you can’t see that then I can’t help you. Thinking of the starting lineups of both sides I can’t think of much differences in the price. That constitutes bad managment IMO
Man Utd’s getting their money back by winning trophies virtually every year for the past 10. Liverpool are a different story entirely. They spend but have no trophies to show for it, compared to Man U’s. Quality & Quantity (in everything) are 2 widely different things, they ain’t the same…
have to say am getting pissed off with that fsw moanin bout everton defending?? they played em monday and he doesn’t learn why play 4-5-1 fuckin idiot, keane must be regretin leaving tha spuds
If Liverpool met the buy out clause in Vidic’s contract then the fact that United offered more makes no difference… When the buy out clause is met the player has to be allowed to talk to that club. Vidic is at Old trafford simply because he (unlike that arsehole Heinze) realises that Liverpool are a shite team who live on past glories. “Oh we won the treble”…… all cups…. were did you finish in the league that year…..WE WON THE REAL TREBLE!!!!
Wife beating, scouse fucking cunt Collymore is having a pop at Fergie, saying that he doesn’t know when to shut up – referring to Fergies statement about the FA loophole. Fuck off you cunt!
vidic will get ya15 – Yeah saw that interview – what a wanker, he’s obviously got serious beef about something.
Just score an own goal at OT and all is good,..
We all dream of a team of robbie keanes, a team of robbie keanes (!!!) 20 million what a waste of money-money they don’t even have!
United have been spending big more for years. In 2001 they bought Veron for 28m, 2002 they spent 29m on Druggy Rio. Liverpools first signing over 12m was Torres last season 2007, we have got Keane and Massa who are also over that price now.. United have Rio, Rooney, Berb and Teves near £30m I dont know how many players you have over 12m but i would have a rough guess at about 10 Including Rio and co. so thats nearly a full team compared to liverpool who only have 3 players
The last poster should repair his faulty keyboard — it has stuck when he typed his name in and come out as “mancsrscum’ when it was obviously meant to read “macmanamanisscum”. No thanks necessary, mate.
@mancsrscum – Guy, if you had even a basic understanding of proper grammar your argument might seem a tad more coherent, but then you are a Liverpool supporter, so what more could anyone expect? It’s a pitiful life holding on that forlorn hope, year after miserable year, of Liverpool returning back to the old glory days, when the championship just seemed to be theirs for the taking. Just about 20 years on and still nothing to show in the EPL, while the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and even Blackburn have pegged their names to the trophy. Tsk tsk tsk. My heart goes out to you. Keep on holding on to those distant memories, because they’re all that you’ll have. And keep up the bile, because we do understand, really we do. It’s extremely painful supporting a team that has nothing but faded memories and records to hold on to, so United supporters really appreciate where all of your unintelligible and envious ranting springs from. It’s a pitiful state to be in, and I think we should all do the right thing and pass the hat around on your behalf. It’s the least we can do for someone who’s life is so obviously a wreckage and a monument to vain hope.
mancsrscum : Difference is mate United have won trophies, what have your rat eating lot won recently other than lucky win in Istanbul? fuck off you cunt.
So none of yous argue you have a team which cost miles more than Liverpool?
Timbo i didn’t realize this was an English exam, MORON. Why don’t yous count the number of trophies Liverpool have won in the turn of 2000, and you will find Liverpool had won more Trophies than United, until last season.
I bet all yous replying on here aren’t even from Manchester, glory hunting pillow biters. Have a nice day in loserville
@Mancrscum – When you can find someone who can decipher your latest pile of execrable English for us let us know – perhaps we could then fire in a worthy retort? I did at least make out your accusation questioning the geographic bona fides of Manchester supporters. Sadly for you, they are indeed a global giant of the game, which is how they obtain the funds to put your beloved Liverpool in the shade year after year.
Your constant carping about money though is a tad odd – to the likes of Scunthorp or Gillingham and their supporters Liverpool’s relative wealth and ability to buy players like Torres might also seem an obscene display of financial inequity where they are concerned. But then hey, that’s the market for you, and explains why Liverpool can’t play with the big boys like United, Chelsea, or Arsenal anymore. Hell, even Blackburn managed to fund a championship win! Having a good scouting system, and a decent youth squad setup, also helps defray the costs of putting out a championship caliber team, but then you wouldn’t know about that at Liverpool, would you?
A final point; For one who would question the rights of an individual to support a team based on geography, can I level the same accusation at you on the basis of your use of the English language? This is a site set up in England for English-speaking people, and judging from your near incomprehensible use of the language one can only assume it’s not your native tongue and that you’re probably from somewhere like Outer Mongolia, correct? Gobi desert? In that case may I recommend you peruse suitable Khalkha Mongolian sites in Ulan Bator that would provide a better and more intelligible outlet for your musings?
With all our commiserations.
@Mancrscum – Another point I forgot to add, my Mongol friend. Arsenal are notorious for their parsimonious ways (I know you don’t know what it means, get someone to look it up for you) under Arsene Wenger, but it hasn’t stopped them wracking up three EPL championships under his stewardship. Why has poor destitute Liverpool been unable to mirror his accomplishments when they’ve outspent Arsenal in recent years?
I know what it means lol but i see no point in using ever big word you can think of its pathetic. Does it make you feel important using long words? I bet you can even spell them properly and you have to use the dictionary thing to help you lol..
Arsenal have been excellent, due to lack of previously Liverpool managers we have been able to get talents. Look at Fergie what did he win at United in his first 4 to 6 years? same as Arsenal. Rafa is in his 5th season now and has Won the fa, CL, cup winners cup, Carling cup the only trophy we haven’t got yet in the Prem. Rafa has accomplished more in his first few years than Fergie has done at United and Wenger at Arsenal..
Fergie has been at united for how long know? and the same with Wenger, how long have Liverpool managers been at the club for in the last 20 years?
Liverpool have won 10 trophies since 2000 United only passed that last season even with all you money. Liverpool is still the most successful club in England
You make me laugh as you clearly are not from Manchester as you haven’t denied it. You don’t seem to have any problems in understanding my comments so all this cr8p about not understanding it make you look like a retard.
Did your parents batter you if you spell something wrong or didn’t you correct grammar? I’m sorry for you
None of you’s have argued about who has the most priced team since i stated the facts you have been spending millions for years, take that money away from Fergie and what would yous be? nothing…
The dictionary thing? Enough said.
the point about our team being the more expensive is ridiculous…when transfer fees were neither here nor there mate 1986-1996ish we built teams that won premiership after premiership because Ferguson is a great manager..After that success and the boom in Premiership money we have maintained our position at the top by buying the best players and sometimes it has cost us a lot of money but that is a product of our hard-won success in the early nineties after 20 years of Liverpool…unfortunately for you mate, we are now one of the two or three biggest clubs in the world, the Premiership money and our worldwide marketing has put us in a much stronger position than Liverpool ever were in the 70s or 80s, a position that I think is going to be pretty unassailable…like Madrid in Spain for the last 50yrs…so keep dreaming mate, Robbie Keane for £20mill, the difference between him and Veron is that everyone thought Veron was class when we signed him but it didn’t work out, where as even the man that sits outside sainsburys near me knew Keane was an average Premiership striker
wtf do you call is? its a spell check system on here, i forgot you designed it silly.
Why do you not answer my questions? oh i forgot your retarded, who’s special talent is spelling and grammar. lol
Gee, and you didn’t even pick up on ‘wracking’. There was an open shot for you. Is it me, or does this seem like an incredibly one-sided waste of effort against an individual whose mental abilities are so questionable that he can’t even appreciate how incredibly stupid he appears – even as he’s floundering away trying to offer up some kind of credibility. They sure know how to breed them in Liverpool – or should I say inbreed them?
to Jake, I thought Keane was a good buy for us, but sadly it hasn’t turned out great for us just like Berb for yous and he cost 10m more. (I was totally surprised by the Keane move myself)
People where trying to get Fergie sacked in the first 4 to 6 years at United.. He was given time and that has paid off.. Liverpool can still win the prem this season and it would be fantastic although we are going to have to perform like we did in the first half.. to many draws costing us again this season..
We will be getting new owners in the summer time and if we won the title this season i don’t think United would ever catch our titles.
@Jake. Don’t waste your time pal. This guy is about as dense as they come – too dense to even realize how dense he is. THAT’S dense. He redefines the term.
Timbo your very sad indeed you must be on some crack in Asia (that’s where you from right?)
Your sentence are becoming more difficult to understand and are not making sense. It might be your bed time or your dealer has given you some bad stuff lol..
can’t believe you just compared Keane to Berbatov….if you had an ounce of credibility before mate, you’ve surely just forfeited it….I couldn’t believe the money you paid for Keane when it happened and I am not involved in Premiership football in any way so what does that say for Benitez, oh and I also saw your team on sunday and said that two strikers was too conservative against an Everton team with none and I was right again…I often question Ferguson but I get it wrong all the time…my conclusion is that if I can get things right that Benitez can’t, that makes him fuckin useless mate…new owners? the ones you are thinking of take really average teams and want to make them world-beaters, that is the legacy they leave…the ones that a team like Liverpool attract are businessmen trying to make money, but they quickly realise that Liverpool is a shit-hole and no-one wants to work/play football there and they can’t bet the team 50miles down the road for commercial viability….
Lol you obviously dont know nothing about the Liverpool take over talks then and the Ruler of dubia has been trying to buy Liverpool with his own money as he know DIC would have to make a profit, he doesn’t, and now with the credit crunch and also man city new owners the sheik is even more interested. Would should of been owned by the guy by now but our greedy owner we have now priced the club to high, but now they are going to have to sell for less than the Sheik offered previously..
Do you honestly think Berb is all that great? he is a lazy c8nt. Keane has always scored lots of goals in the prem for different teams, and if i had a choice at the beginning of the season to have Berb or Keane i would of said Keane.. I wouldn’t have any of them now..
What wit, what style, what verve. Yep, you really creamed me there. But, for once you are correct. An individual who can’t put out the simplest message without mangling it virtually beyond recognition is certainly not capable of comprehending any message that contains anything more than single syllable words – with a few cartoon images thrown in to help explain the contents.
Hold the horses! A new nation has arisen in the Middle East! Hail Dubia! New kingdom of the Emirates!
You really are an idiot pal. Ever thought the reason keane has done fuck all is because he has not got the sublime talent of Berba playing alongside him.
Lads we could have a field day with the scouse culture, their murdering past…but like timbo said…this dipper cannot string a sentence together. So really the dip isnt worth the time and effort.
But i do hail Dubia….ha ha ha ha..funny fuck…
I really want to go to that place..where is it, cannot find it anywhere…ha ha ha