Whilst not ranting and raving with my disgust in certain players when we’re not doing well, I will have a shout if one of our lads is repeatedly screwing up. The likes of Mikael Silvestre, Darren Fletcher, Kieran Richardson and John O’Shea have probably had me grumbling more than anyone else over the past 10 years or so, but I’m sure they can handle it!
There are lads who sit not far away from me at Old Trafford who bitch and complain every match. It’s “Fucking Rooney, get it on target!”, ’that was shit Giggs!” and “put your fucking foot in Carrick!” every match, and it grates on me.
I can’t tolerate this idea that a player who has contributed positively on so many important occasions deserves the abusing some fans give our players. They’re human, they will have an off day, so give them a break. I heard there were boos at the end of the Villarreal match a couple of weeks back and that leaves me gutted. Who are these people coming to Old Trafford?
However, on Saturday, it struck me at half time that I had become one of them, without me even realising, and Cristiano Ronaldo was the target of my abuse.
Whilst voicing my unhappiness with Ronaldo’s conduct over the summer, I was never one of these big Ronaldo bashers. I understood why he was tempted to leave and had known since day one Real Madrid had been his dream club. It was hardly a shocking revelation when he said he wanted to play for them. I tried to be as understanding as I possibly could.
When the saga was finally resolved, with Ronaldo deciding to stay at the club, it didn’t have a great effect on me. I wasn’t jumping for joy, but equally, I wasn’t fuming either. I could recognise that he was a great talent and whilst I’d never give him the support I had last season again, I was pleased enough to have retained the services of the best player in the World, for a year at least anyway.
Ronaldo was saved from any humiliation thanks to his injury, which kept him out of the opening few games. Following a home draw to Newcastle, an away defeat to Liverpool, as well as a poor display against Zenit, our fans were eager to have him back. He was welcomed on to the pitch with a standing ovation, forgiven, it seemed. The idea of booing a player who we all hoped would kickstart our season just didn’t seem to register anymore.
Against Bolton, ‘Viva Ronaldo’ was sung before the match as he went to collect some PFA award or another, and after he scored his penalty. That was it. A stark contrast to last season, when his songs were sung every few minutes. I was pleased. I didn’t want to see Ronaldo get booed, it’s so low rent to do that to your own players, but I didn’t want him to be able to walk back in to our open arms, us pretending like nothing had happened. It appears as though the Old Trafford crowd are in agreement, for the time being at least.
However, my behaviour on Saturday was different to ever before, and I wonder if I’m alone in this. I wonder if I’m being a bit over-sensitive and should just get a grip. But when Ronaldo scored, I stayed in my seat. It didn’t move me at all. Maybe it was because I knew it wasn’t a penalty at all and we were going to receive a slating for it, or maybe it was because of the scorer. After throwing himself to the ground too cheaply all day, finally he’d got a decision, and the glory that comes with it. I’m not suggesting Ronaldo dived to win the penalty, because I don’t think he did, but had any other player been on the receiving end of that tackle, I’d have been a lot happier.
Last season, I would have forgiven Ronaldo a whole host of sins. When he fired yet another freekick straight in to the wall, as Owen Hargreaves and Ryan Giggs looked on impatiently, I got over it. When he went to ground too easily then threw a tantrum after not being awarded a freekick, I didn’t fuss. Yes, he was imperfect, but he was so important to us, carving out a place for himself in our history books.
I’m not so willing to forgive any more.
There will have been some fans who went to Old Trafford on Saturday knowing full well they did not have any time for Ronaldo, yet for me, it took me by surprise. I didn’t realise the feelings seeing him play for us again would evoke.
It was infuriating to see Ronaldo take on a few players then fall over under minimal contact. As the referee waved play on, and the rest of our team scurried back in to position after supporting the attack, Ronaldo would stay sat on the pitch. The fact that he’d just lost the ball and now the rest of his team had to make up for that seemingly mattered little to him.
So I slated him, from start to finish. “Lazy little prick, chase back!”, “diving bastard, get up!”, “fucking pass the ball you selfish dick head!” I’d never bought in to all that before, but it felt good laying in to Ronaldo. The guy scored one and assisted the other, yet here I was, ripping layers off him every time he held on to the ball for too long and shot when he should have passed.
There is no real point to this, other than for me to confess and get things off my chest. I don’t want to be one of those pricks who berates our best players and I’m hoping it’s just a ‘phase’ I’m going through. The arrogance and laziness were things I could abide by last season, but now it’s as if a switch has been flicked, and I expect more from him.
Ronaldo has changed, the fame and attention has gone to his head. I overlooked it before, but now, I can’t. Whilst he’s had other people read through his mail for the past few years, he now even resents doing the signings for other people, paid by him, to send out. He drove away at the end of training last week, despite a group of terminally ill visitors at Carrington, and refused to return. Who the fuck does this guy think he is?
It really isn’t a nice position to be in, feeling such a strong dislike for one of your own players. I remember something similar to this with Rio Ferdinand a few years back, but that is long forgotten. If Ronaldo was to stay for a few more seasons, maybe there’d be times for the wounds to be completely healed too, although if we’re realistic, we will probably cash in big time next summer, and I will be glad.
I am grateful for last season and if he scores and assists in every game from now, I’m hardly going to let that go unappreciated. Still, I don’t want to end up like those tossers at the ground and I am going to make an effort not to be so hard on him. But one things for sure, this season will be a lot less enjoyable if I can no longer ignore his imperfections and get worked up every time Ronaldo behaves in a way I don’t like!
Am I alone on this?
I agree with u there having seen the match I grew very frustrated at how lazy he was after loosing the ball, everytime there was no effort to try and win possesion back. Fair enough he had a hand in both goals but other than that it wasn’t his most productive afternoon, hopefully his effort will improve once he’s fully match fit
Question off topic Scott, but with this influx of strikers at the moment how do you think this will affect the Tevez situation? Do you think they will still go through with it? I am hoping so.
most def not alone on this scott. i too try to support and defend utd players as best as i can, yet somehow after watching him head in the opener in the carling cup and opening the scoring against bolton i somehow felt muted. those feelings of frustration you felt when he was being a spoilt brat on the pitch mirror mine, no longer can i tolerate his incessant whining whenever the ref doesn’t give him his foul after a dive.
as you said imperfections are easy to forgive when its a player whose name you sing like an anthem, now that he is someone who evokes no emotion whatsoever in me its difficult to look past the faults.
totally 100% agree with you there mate, i cant hate a player who plays for united – even if they are pants! but i too dont like ronaldo, i will not boo him at games or not cheer when he scores but when i look at him play now it seems like hes playing for number 1 (himself) in the game against chelsea he wasnt himself and i put that down to him coming back from injury, being rusty and all that.
but on saturday his reluctance to cross the ball or find a team mate was annoying to say the least, take the “penalty” we had 4 players in the box and instead of going down the line and crossing he came in to try and get a shot away (which he wouldnt have done anyway because it was a good tackle coming in – he didnt dive tho!). maybe im looking to much into it and he did it last season but was willing to let it go because he was helping our overall play too, but this season when he doesnt cross or track back it just gets me worked up!
Not alone.
Saturday was really frustrating as he seemed to think he is the best player in the world and everything should go his way. I thought he was pretty poor, generally making the wrong decision and not passing, the one time he did play it in to another player whilst in or around the box we scored.
Also when he was subbed hardly anyone sat round me stood, when we were all on our feet for Tevez and Anderson. I think it will take something special for the affection to come back, if it ever does.
What I find hard to do now, or I won’t do anymore is defend him against people who don’t support United or football for that matter. It’s hard to answer the question of “Why does he fall down so easy?” when he does it all the time. I felt disgusted when he flopped out against fat Frank the other day.
To make it better all I have to do is think about players like 20legend and Cantona, legends I tell you.
i agree scott. his theatrics over the summer (especially that statement ‘i love to play in the white shirt…’) were awful. and he doesn’t work hard enough on the pitch. when he came on against chelsea i feared for the worst. i do defend ronaldo when my mates wind me up about him but deep inside i don’t like him. I’ll always love attacking players like rooney, tevez etc (from the current team) more than ronaldo.
but having said that i guess he is very important to us with his goals and assists. as long as he’s scoring and performing well I’ll not whine too much and i no longer care if he stays or leaves this summer…
Completely with you on this ,He wears our shirt takes the United shilling then i expect him to preform. He will eventualy go and i would like to think i could thank him for his efforts in our sucsess. As some one has already stated i no longer defend him to anyone. A great player ,not such a great man !
Nothing new, it’s always driven me mad. I guess you take the good with the bad no matter how frustrating the bad is. I’ve never particularly taken to the kid but he’s contributed massively. I have little respect for our new age glamor footballers, I reckon their a bunch of pussies but that’s just my opinion; Give me Sparkie, Choccie and Keane any day of the week.
His personality doesn’t impress based on this piece, shocking if true:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jun/21/manchesterunited.premierleague1
Never really liked him as a player.
I agree, but I don’t really think he has changed. I’ll admit I was never a huge fan of Ronaldo from the start. I acknowledge his ability and was happy he was playing for us. His arrogance on and off the pitch always annoyed me. He’s never really wowed me for that reason. His skill has always been tainted by his attitude. I’m happy he can score goals, but I’m rather indifferent to if he plays or not. I was definitely way more excited over Rooney’s goal than Ronaldo’s pk. I don’t even think the fame has done it to him. I think he has always had that ego, and I think he’s in for a rude awakening when he finally does leave United.
He is simply regressing to what he played like a few years ago-making poor decisions, not passing, and flopping. Viva Rooney !!!
Keep it up lads and you’ll definitely drive him out at the end of the season. All right he made a song and dance of it, but he stayed when he spoke with SAF. He has never made a secret of his wish to play for RM so the more songs and cheers he gets the more he is likely to stay. For all your protests you must want him to stay, if you truly support MANU.
Dan he stayed becaused Fergie told him to, not because he wanted to.
SCOTT
spot on scott,
i did the same on saturday, i couldnt help it.
i think the issue from summer is probably responsible, to be honest even when he scored the penalty and in the carling , ididnt feel the same joy i fet last seasn. i really hope its not a bad thing
I tend to agree as well. I’ve always cringed whenever he goes over too easy and gives the ref that look but it’s easier to forget things like that when he was delivering the goods. The thought did cross my mind during Saturday’s game that maybe he was trying to work his passage out! Personally I never had a problem with Ronaldo wanting to go to Madrid. After all, players do have these dreams and you have to accept it. My problem was the obscene behaviour of those b’stards at Madrid and I was so happy we told them to get stuffed. Thing is, we need a wide player like Ronaldo, someone to unlock defences with sheer brilliance, and, if he goes, where the hell do we find a replacement. We need to have one in place before the end of the season because the whole Madrid thing will resurface in the summer for sure!
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Ronaldos problem is that as long as he’s the best player in the world everyone will love him but when he isn’t anymore ( and no-one can be the best for too long ) his behaviour will come back and haunt him. That being said I think it’s harsh to call him lazy because his job on the field isn’t defending, his job is to create chances and goals up front and not waste energy on defending, we have other players who do that.
this article is fukin brilliant!!!
Scott, I heard absolutely no booing after the Villarreal game??? I think thats a fib.
I am one of those ones who shouts ” Carrick put your bloody foot in ” and rightly so. I like Michael Carrick and I support the whole team and dont single anyone out for treatment, but how can you expect people not to shout in frustration when Carrick half heartidly goes in for a 50/50. I know its not his strong point going into tackles, but still it frustrates people!
should have sold him for the 70 bought tevez and berbatov with the money and with the extra 10 + the money we had for berba tried to get a fantastic winger with it,
Oh what a fickle lot you all are!
I’m amazed at this – for once, I don’t agree with Scott at all. Remember, this is a player who has been out for two months with an ankle injury, and I, for one, can’t expect him to come back and reproduce the heights he hit last season – not yet, anyway… I must say, I thought he’d be out for another couple of weeks at least, so I’m just pleased he’s back. Against Villerreal, his introduction seemed to speed up our attacking play immensely and I never thought I’d think this, but he makes such a difference… And as for the falling over on minimal contact, nowt’s changed there anyway – he’s always gone over at seemingly the slightest contact… it’s because he’s a tall lad and is easier to knock off the ball than someone with a lower centre of gravity (such as Lionel Messi, Maradona, other midgets)… And as it happens, I’ve always screamed at him when he’s fired his free kicks into the wall, but every now and again, he hits one like he did against Portsmouth at home last season… So, come on guys, give him a break…
I must admit that I have had the same feeling as Scott, but so far I will put it down to him being far from match-fit and out of real confidence. You see it in the way he tries to do the same things as last season but the final touch, the little burst of speed, the moment of magic isn’t there anymore. However, I truly believe that after new year, he will be back as good as ever.
And then about Rooney. Please Fergie, play Rooney in his favorite position as I am afraid that it wont be long before he permanently turns into a jack of all trade player, however a supremely gifted jack, when he should be the master of goalscoring feeding off Berbatov. You admitted pre-season that you had played him too much out of position for the good of the team. The thing is however, the team should be playing for the good of Rooney!! I am just a little worried about the way Rooney is being used. He will never complain and throw his shirt in the ground because of it, but we cant afford to waste his talents! Whats the point of giving him the nr. 10 shirt when he is forced to play out wide too much. Come on Fergie, give us back the real Rooney!
Dan Rey…you’re right lad, we dont support “ManU”, we support United.
Gary…Off topic, but Carrick went in like a champ against Pool in the tackle that hurt him. He is getting better at it….
100% with you on this one Scott…
I actually thought Ronaldo was Bolton’s most effective weapon the other day. On numerous occasions, we would get the ball to his feet and would have the majority of the team bomb forward as we look to hit them quickly, and Ronaldo would run directly at a Bolton player, do a step over or two, get ripped far far far too easily, and then Bolton is on the break, and our whole side is out now screwed and out of position, bar Rio and Vidic. Thats when Bolton looked the most dangerous.
I dont think many of our lads had their best performance the other day, but at least when Carlos or Anderson or Park f’d up and gave it away easily, they were right on their f’ing bike to win back possession.
Another disapointing post Scott. I don’t know what’s got into you. I don’t mind if you don’t like the guy, but I was of a thought that you unlike many will be able to get your act together and not be complaining like this. I for one can’t stand Rooney and I don’t give a shit how “red” everyone thinks he is. Arrogance comes with fame. I understand why Ronaldo is arrogant, but I have no clue why Rooney is such a spoiled twat
I kind of enjoy the stick Ronaldo gets from outsiders but from our own fans is another story. I will always enjoy being hated by the neutrals for supporting United, I love being one of us, a red and Ronaldo is in the same situation. For as long as he is doing good things for us, he will be called a diver, a cheat and United will be called a one man team.
I get frustrated with Nani more than anybody at the moment, never Fletcher or O’shea… not even in the past. Ronaldo will never be United through and through, not like Wayne, Wesley, Scholes, Giggs and he won’t even leave the club with the adoration the Cantona has. He’s scored 2 in 2 starts and although he can be a pain in the arse, I am just glad that his goals are Manchester United goals.
Looking at him after he has scored the last 2 goals you can see in his face that he is embarrassed and awkward. He knows fully well what he has done and knows he has a lot more to do than score goals to be looked at as a true United hero.
Whiteside – I think you missed the point. It’s nothing to do with how well he does for us. The fact he’s only been back for a handful of games and has scored 2 goals and provided another is more than a brilliant return, considering the length of time he’s been out.
I was merely reflecting on how the summer’s events changed my opinion of him, which came as a surprise to me, because I didn’t think I was all that arsed about it now. Obviously at the time I was pissed off, but once it was all resolved, I figured I’d just get on with it.
But Ronaldo really leaves me cold at the moment. Like I said, I hope it passes, but I felt nothing but resentment towards him all match. He proper wound me up, in the way I imagine an ABU getting wound up when they watch him play. It was a really odd feeling. I can honestly say I’ve never felt so unmoved by a goal at Old Trafford as I was over his penalty.
Orez – I thought I’d have been able to get on with it too. I hadn’t even thought twice about Saturday’s match being the first time I’d seen him live since last season. That’s why it came as a shock to me when I felt so fucked off with him all match.
Yes i have to totally agree, i sit in the north stand and my friend who sits beside me both decided not to join in with the viva ronaldo song, a favourite of last year and both failed to clap him off when he was replaced, i don’t know how long it will take me to forgive him for his antics and to be perfectly honest he was extremley wasteful with the ball on saturday and im hoping that he turns things around becuase we will need his goals, rooney was outstanding when he came on, that boy just wants to wear the red and kick a ball, ronaldo could learn a few things from him and perhaps then he will have our respect back because at the minute the stands (apart from the one match a season foreigners, who love him) won’t be singing “viva ronaldo!” every 2 minutes like last seaon for a long time.
Ron’s replacement is not that far away. At Wigan in fact. Antonio Valencia could replace Ronaldo anytime. Valencia is also a team player, something Ronaldo never was till now at least. I would have preferred if Ronaldo left this summer and United got the 70mil for him, as after all the statements he made I did not and never will feel the same way about him. I do not think I’ll ever be able to forgive him.
Interesting comments but I’d want to address a few things that concern me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and no one can raise the emotions – love or hate, like Mr C Ronaldo. But why are we suprised about what he said over the summer? He’s ALWAYS wanted to play for Real Madrid and made that clear on numerous occasions when interviewed over the years. Coming from Madeira and becasue of the close ties between Spain & Portugal in terms of culture, history and the latin mentality he will feel more closer to Madrid. Plus, we have to remember Madrid ARE a big club. Yes we may think that the football world revolves around Man U, be it the ABUs, or Prawn sandwich brigade or the wealth and history we have. But Madrid have a history too, have won more European Cups than us, have a massive fan base, and are wealthy too. Plus most spanish/portuguese speaking football players would prefer to go there rather than Manchester. Look for example at Ronaldiniho, when we thought he was coming here.
My second point is that after the abuse and the way Rio Ferdinand acted in his early days and the ban for missing a drugs test, he was at an all time low among United supporters, who rightly questioned his loyalty and committment for the red shirt. But look at him now, he’s 29/30 and mature. And will be the next club captain after Nevs retires. Does anyone question Rio’s committment or contribution to the cause for the team? NO.
Ronaldo is more of a team player now than he was when he started, yes I get frustrated when he doesn’t pass or decides to take on that player, when instead of shooting or playing in a team mate. I will never criticise him for trying to do the impossible, because the greats always do it: Cantona, Giggs, Best etc.
Let’s not delude ourselves, football has changed for better and for worse. But Ronaldo has grown and matured. He wins back-to-back PFA player of the year & the writers’ equivallent. ‘that say’s a lot about his character on the field. He cut out the diving and raised his game to the point where he brings out the best in his team mates and where opponents fear him and United.
He’s a human being and like all of us and has faults. The only difference is that he’s seen by millions and scrutinised by everyone.
Maybe he was naive and flattered by Madrid’s interest, but he craves attention and the adulation. He’s a millions miles away from Paul Scholes in so many ways but I will cheer him as long as he plays for us.
@Med Red: Antonio Valencia replace Ronaldo???? I doubt it…I don’t like Ronaldo as much as the next guy, but i can say right now theres NO player in the EPL that can replace Ronaldo and very few can in the world.
On the article: Like i said before, I’ll never cheer against a United player, but NEVER again will i cheer for Ronaldo either.
Agree completely. We don’t do prima donna’s and it is as simple as that. Rooney can’t be accused of that and that is while he’ll remain a favourite. I fear the benefit of keeping Ronaldo will not be enough this year. Nobody can be bigger than the club or the manager and those who have felt they are in the past have always been on their way pretty quickly. Sell him in the summer and cash in. I wouldn’t care if he went to City when they outbid Madrid by £25m. Let him go, he’ll do nothing until he gets his head from up his arse!!
Scott the Red:
You are on target with this article…Ronaldo is a one way player and does not care if he causes undue pressure on the back four because he refuses to play defense. The TEAM should sell him for as much as possible next summer.
Red do you still believe that Saha was more important to ManU than Ruud OR do you now believe Saha was mentally and physically fragile and no where close to matching Ruud’s abilities/contributions?
I totally agree with pretty much everything you said in that article Scott. Whilst I recognise that Ronaldo is arguably the greatest footballer on the planet at the moment, I can no longer ignore the fact that he’s actually a total dickhead! This summer should’ve been a time for celebration and contented reflection amongst united fans after winning the double. But Ronaldo spoiled that for all the kids who idolise him and the diehard fans who pay his wages. His attention seeking comments to the press made me sick, he’s treated our great club as if it is beneath him.
Whilst I don’t agree with fans booing their own players, I was really disappointed that he returned to a standing ovation. Especially after he’d claimed (with typical conceit) that the fans would love him as soon as he started playing again.
What a nob!!
Makes you appreciate a class act like Paul Scholes. A true legend.
What a bunch of rightous people wearing your heart on your sleeves are we now. Don’t be stupid and naive the days of Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs etc are all but almost over. Even the best young kids coming up through the ranks are foreign. Most playerspend an average of 4 to 5 years with a club then move on. Football is a big business to the clubs, players, managers & officials. Ask any club chairman or ceo if they would want their jobs without the huge amount of money they make? Ask any player would they willingly move to another club if they were offered less money? The answer is a big no. I ask you self rightous people would you rather have Ronaldo lifting the Champions League with Manchester United this year or would you have prefered it if he did so for Real?? And please get real Ronaldo is the very best there is at the moment and yes he will eventually leave but would we have won two premiership titles and a european champions league without him? I doubt it very much lads.
Im extremely dissapointed at most of you guys berating ronaldo. Those of you who have been saying we should have sold him fo 70mil clearly have not been watching united play every game this season.
Firstly, against Newcastle, pompey, and zenit we were no shows. i do accept that for those games we didnt have berba and no rooney for some of them, but even against zenit WITH rooney and tevez (basicly our only other goal scorers last season) we left alot to be desired going forward. i would love to blame that on our midfield, but we had carrick n scholes trying to create. The problem was that our attakers didnt take the initiative and didnt know what to do with the ball, and when they did, they couldnt put it in the back of the net.
When ronaldo came on against villareal, it was clear as daylight for me to see how differently we played. We had played good football for 15min against liverpool and against villareal for 45min, but when ronaldo came on in the second half, we looked like we knew what we were doing for the first time.
Secondly, Scott, i am normaly 100% behind your opinions, but this one, i have to disagree. I can understand your feelings but deffinately cannot condone your berating of ronaldo, for the simple reason that i thought he was our best player. The team did start off well enough trying to create chances, but when we were continuously frustrated by the bolton defence, who did everyone in the team turn to? Ronaldo…We seemed to give him the ball whenever we could for him to create space for others. Its easy to say he should have passed instead of run with the ball, but it was ronaldo that took the initiative, who tryd to take the game by the scruff of the neck, which is something no other united player has done so far this season. He is unfortunately the most important part of our team, and without him we are not the same attaking force.
Just on abit of a side note, the people who think ronaldo is selfish because he had very few assists last season (i think it was 4 or something) and that rooney is king because of his 18 or so assists, i think you guys didnt really pay attention during most games last season. I can remember atleast 6 or 7 oppotunities set up by ronaldo for rooney. I also remember rooney missing all of those chances
I felt exactly the same sitting in the stands and so did so many around me. Halfway through the game I turned around to my mate and said something that everyone around me agreed with.
He’ll never be Wayne Rooney.
Im with you on this Scott. Its clearly a hot topic, 38 posts in less than a day. But the majority of us writing in here obviously feel the same. That doesnt make me any less (or more) of a United fan, its just opinions.
No one is doubting his ability, or that we are a better team with more purpose when he plays, its what goes with it that puts us off.
Last summer left a bad taste in all our mouths. Granted, the boy is from Portugal, and Real Madrid are a huge deal out there, and we all knew that one day he would like to play there, the problem was the way he went about it this summer, with cryptic answers to journos, and never giving a proper clear statement on his intent to stay or go. That hurt alot of United fans big time, and I for one am glad this kind of debate is going on.
Whats said on this board wont encourage him to stay, or push him away.
Orez, thats your opinion and you are entitled to it. Heres my opinion, I think you are talking crap regarding Rooney, and are out of line.
Id rather have Rooney representing me, as a United fan, on the field ANY day of the week ahead of Ronaldo.
As for you Franco, coming on calling anyone that disagrees with you as ’stupid, naive and self rightous’? Im not having that. I see the point you make about football being a business, players coming and going, and the rest about Ronaldo, but you are speaking like you are a customer, or a shareholder of some big cold business, its all about winning and results and cash, regardless of….is that really the way you see the club???
I, like alot of others that I know, speak from the heart on all matters United, like I own part of the club, its in me, and Im in it.
This club is special, thats what drew us all into it, and we’re in for life. So dont break down our club into some random global business, that results alone should dictate what way we feel, and what we think. Theres alot more to United than that.
We’ll NEVER die…
Don’t be so hard on yourself.
I love to loathe Ronaldo too.
You’re right that it was easier to forgive him last season, but let’s be honest – if we weren’t United fans, we would hate his guts with a passion.
For all his brilliance, he’s a petulant boy in a man’s body, whose fame has gotten to his head.
I’ve recently asked myself why I detest Ronaldo so much NOW and the answer for is following:
I cannot stand Cristiano Ronaldo, because he plays for himself.
Forget all his quotes and claims. They are all empty. He only plays for himself – because he loves to watch himself on TV.
It’s ok if he’s got the ball on the wing and he runs without passing, because there’s no one to support him – at least he carries the ball forward into enemy territory, but it’s completely different when he’s surrounded by team mates and doesn’t care to even look up and see his options.
Before the summer, we all could put it down to immaturity or it being part of his game, but during the summer we found out, it’s because he only cares about himself.
Ronaldo destroyed any shred of goodwill and oversight we afforded him, because he showed that he doesn’t care about anybody but himself. Not for his team mates, the club or the fans.
And that is why, I will never, ever regard him as a United legend.
In total agreement. I don’t think I can enjoy watching him play. He embarrasses me. He gives off the impression that he is doing Utd a bleedin favour by playing for us. That gets my goat above all else
I don’t think Ronaldo’s behaviour is any more annoying than it was last season, it’s just that people notice it more now. It’s not a problem for me – I never liked him that much, but now I don’t feel obliged to like him. I just think he’s a player who helps us win games so it’s good that we have him, even though it will probably only be until the summer.
One image above all which sums up Ronaldo is when Van Der Sar saved the penalty in the Champions League final and the whole team ran to celebrate with him except Mr Odd One Out Ronaldo who wanted his own share of the limelight.
That always leaves me cold.
We shouldn’t try to make a mountain out of a mole hill for God’s sake;all humans irrespective of their nature have their own flaws,so,how would you people feel if someone should berate you seriously because of the exhibition of your own flaws,ronaldo is the best player within the solar system as at now,without him,we’d have probably finished off last season in a uefa cup spot;and for madrid to come up with a sum of over 200,000gbp weekly for him,c’mon it’s only expected he would re-tilt his specs(if he had 1);we should respect his decision as a world icon to forgo all those additionals in order to don the red shirt once again..morever,since returning from injury,he has already scored 2 and made 2 assists from 2 starts,really,we built him into what he is today,but he isn’t the relatively local no.’28′ talent we signed 5 years ago from sporting;we should stop crying over spilt milk,and instead focus on the fresh season and think of better ways of deriving the best from the deadliest strikeforce in the galaxy..there can only be only ONE UNITED.
Agree on alot of of the pros and cons on ronaldo….and there are many viewpoints on both sides. Neither wrong. But Tom F hit it on the nail. You dont need to elaborate too much…a picture told a thousand words. most of the answers of what he is who he stands for and what and why he does things is in that pic..in that moment.
And Scott…what ron has done or has become or what he stands for is too vivid and recent in the memory. as the saying goes..time heals..in time you ‘ll forget bit by bit and start warming to him again. That is if he stays longer than this proposed year