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‘Nerdy’ Berbatov Has Brilliant Attitude & Fans Should Love Him

I have fought Dimitar Berbatov‘s corner since he joined Manchester United and came under criticism from our own fans as much as elsewhere. I saw enough in him to stick my neck out and acknowledge that whilst he wasn’t scoring as much as we’d hoped, he was class and we needed to give him time. If you don’t get Berbatov, you don’t get football became somewhat of a catchphrase, feeling the need to repeatedly defend the guy. But his penalty miss in the FA Cup semi-final was the final nail in the coffin for some fans.

His attitude since joining us has been fantastic, repeatedly confirming that playing for Manchester United is a massive deal for him and that he wants to stay here for the rest of his career.

Whilst generally our fans have begun to warm him, impressed with his brilliant touch, ability to keep the ball, and knack of picking out perfect passes, there is still a feeling that he is ‘lazy’. Sir Alex Ferguson has refuted this claim in the past and Berbatov has set out to prove those who claim that wrong.

So, has Berbatov lived up to his price tag? He doesn’t think so. “Man, who can live up to that sort of money?” he said. “Nobody can. If I think about that money it is crazy to me. I can’t believe it. But in my first year I was disappointed in myself. I need to say that. My nerves were too much and that is my responsibility. I think I wanted so much to prove myself to these supporters. You must remember, they are used to Best, Charlton, Cantona. I am just Dimitar. It was a big pressure for me and maybe I failed myself. I got a number of assists, but I must score more goals. I am more pleased with my overall game in this second season already. I feel that I have integrated myself better into the team. I am much stronger, much fitter. I still wish I could score more. I don’t know what I am doing wrong sometimes. Maybe it’s luck, maybe it’s me…who knows? At nights I have kept myself awake thinking ‘you could have done this instead’.”

Berbatov appears to be a very reflective player and a big thinker, so has dwelling so much on his first year meant the enjoyment has been taken out of his football?

“What? How can you even ask that man?” he asked. “I am a footballer playing for the best club in the world. I am playing with legends like Scholes, Giggs and Rooney. Being coached by a man like Sir Alex Ferguson. How can I not be happy?”

Berbatov is aware that sections of the fans still don’t like him but he is quite happy to take that criticism on board.

“Then that is my fault, not theirs,” he said. “It is me who must change. Manchester United is their club. They have treated me perfectly since I came.”

Football is very much about statistics these days but Berbatov would like to see his statistics put him on top for work rate.

“I don’t run for no reason,” he added. “I am always alert and ready. I will be honest. This criticism did affect me, but not in a negative way. I looked at our ProZone stats and saw that I was ninth in distance covered. I am kind of a nerd. I looked at them too much, maybe. By the end of the season I was 4th. Maybe this season I will be 1st!”

More and more reasons to love him. I honestly don’t get why people don’t like the guy. Carlos Tevez ran around like a blue-arsed fly last season but scored just one goal for every 371 minutes he was on the pitch. But he was a trier, just like Alan Smith, so he was adored. Berbatov was far more effective in front of goal, in terms of both scoring and assisting goals, but because he didn’t boot the ball five yards in front of him and chase after it every time it came to him, so able was he to bring the ball down with his first touch, our fans didn’t have time for him.

Carlos Tevez
(08/09) 1856 minutes, 5 goals, 3 assists.
Strike rate – 1 goal per 371 minutes.
Behind a goal every 232 minutes.

Dimitar Berbatov
(08/09) 2542 minutes, 9 goals, 10 assists.
Strike rate – 1 goal per 282 minutes.
Behind a goal every 134 minutes.

The people who were drowning out Ferguson’s end of season speech with ‘Fergie, sign him up!’ need to have a think about what kind of player we want at Manchester United. I’d argue that a player that wouldn’t even think twice about joining City for that money over playing for us is the kind we want at our club. The kind of player who sees us as the biggest and best in the world and sees no reason why he would ever want to leave. A player who truly appreciates getting to work alongside the great players and manager we have. A player who will take criticism on board and find fault in himself, rather than responding to fan criticism with claims that he wants to leave. A player who wants to improve and do whatever he can to help the team do well and keep the fans happy.

I’m desperate for him to do so well this season that people have no choice but to acknowledge his contribution. But like Wednesday proved, you don’t need to be banging the goals in to be the best and most effective player on the park. Tevez didn’t contribute much with goals last season but his contribution was his willingness to run his balls off. Berbatov contributed more goals last season, but not enough, but his contribution was all his assists and lovely play around the final third which lead to goals.

The fella is absolute quality and I’m more than happy to pay to watch him play.






 

125 Comments

  1. aig alex is god says:

    great article Scott

    No one and i mean no one can do those flicks better than Berba.The guy is class but some people are too narrow minded and just look at the goals scored column.he can hold the ball and his first touch is the best i have seen.Sure he dosent have that much pace or is not an out and out striker but has more so many more other talents that have to be admired . Just feel heneeds to use his height more like he did against City and score more headed goals.he scored loads of them for spurs.

    Who else can do this???????

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxJ9wdXXbwY

  2. Giggsy Fan says:

    Wonderful article Scott.. luvs the stats cos it’s the fact! He’s a great football talent and have that silky touch. on the Wolfsburg game he simply fired up our attacking team..giggs got the help he needed the most..

  3. Sililo says:

    I have to totally agree that watching Berbatov play is pure enjoyment. But as a striker, he needs to score more goals. I have no doubts of his capabilities and it is just ideal that a player of that caliber who loves the club and fans wholeheartedly to be playing at our club.

    I urge all to give him more support and maybe that will spur him to do better for us. Like what Rooney mentioned, all players loves to be praised and maybe with that additional support from us, Berba might fly and start hitting all the right notes and goals…

    Cheers to Berba…

  4. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Berbatov is magic
    said it from day one
    and knew tevez hadnt a patch on him
    and i got stick saying all i do is agree with scott
    now he played one of his best games on wednesday
    everyone says he’s world class
    the he wont score for a few games and people will turn on him again
    Berbatov is magic

  5. MUFC the Religion says:

    What a guy. He was class on Wednesday. His only fault is that he just doesn’t shoot enough. He scored some screamers for Spurs but he would rather pass now.

    Just now I’ve seen the Sun’s headline for this story. It says BERBA: I HAVE FAILED. What the fuck is that.

    I see Wazza has said he will miss the Moscow game if it clashes with his kids birth. Can’t blame him for that, it’s not like he ain’t committed to us. I’m not worried about Moscow but he could easily miss Liverpool which would be disaster. Away to Liverpool without Rooney. Not good.

  6. Red phil says:

    I would like to put my hands up and apologise to SAF, the lads, and the supporters that saw otherwise. I was shouting “sign him up” during that speech (not realising we were shouting over the gaffer). Realising now what we had then and now makes me realise I was wrong, passion can be a mind fuck eh?.

    With regards to Dim, I think he is class, he still has some way to go, but like evra, I think he has realised that saying the right thing takes you a long way with us red folk.

    Dimitar – berbatov – one look at city and he said fuck off!

  7. 8aashishm says:

    Been an avid reader of this blog for a while, and its got some really brilliant articles!

    However, why is it that Tevez is brought up again and again? This is an article about Berbatov, lets stick to talking about him rather than giving out statistics of Tevez’s performance again and again and again!

    Fine he played for us for two years. And he left us for a small time club who aren’t even our main rivals according to SAF. We at Manchester United should have better things to do that slate small time strikers at small time clubs every chance we get.

  8. aig alex is god says:

    @MUFC THE Religion

    The Sun is a piece of trash and they write only crap.most of the UK tabloids have included berba in their list of deadline day flops. All of them are fools and dont understand football.all the tabloids are shit.Hope he has a cracking season and makes those assholes eat their own shit words.how can you judge a player when he has had only a year and has a 4 year deal.all dickheads.such a thing in the tabloids really puts me off .

    But then its good to see so may sensible people on ROM.Thanks Scott.

    Have to give Berba credit for being so frank in that interview.

  9. Swissdevil says:

    Great article Scott!

    @ MUFC the Religion: You’re right! At the lane he tried much more to shoot and scored fantastic goals. It’s kind of sad, cos sometimes it looks he lost confidence in his shots… but I’m sure this will get better and he settles more at OT.
    He pure class and one of the most elegant players i’ve seen..

  10. Paul the red says:

    i agree… pure quality. sometimes we can see things through tinted glasses being united fans and although i liked tevez cos he ran around like he was on a gram of speed but as scott said he wanted the money and went for his black gold payments at ciddy, but he never had the touch or dare i say it the grace that berbatov has. personally i would rather watch him than tevez any day.

  11. Dec the red says:

    Berba is a class act. We need to get behind him instead of some fans getting on his back. Anyone who knows anything about footie can see that he has the ability to be a great, his vision and ability to pick the perfect pass is something that could be vital for us later in the season when wins are tougher to come by.

  12. Stretford Ender says:

    Scott Thanks for backing me up on this, there have been so many articles with quotes from our stars saying how Berba does things in training that no one else can do. The guy is such a huge asset to our club, and he knows that. On his day, like the other night, you can see how he controls the tempo. He knows he needs to impress some more fans, but the fans who chanted at fergie to sign that Argie bastard up need to see that Berba might not run as much but has twice the class. IN FERGIE WE TRUST!

  13. Its in my blood says:

    Agree with every word, well written, great stats, quality!

  14. Xyth says:

    He told City to fuck off, didn’t he? This should have earned him eternal respect at OT.

    He is a class act, and will prove his worth.

  15. Scott the Red says:

    8aashishm – I’m putting in the comparison with Tevez because the fans loved him and went as far as disrespecting our manager to offer up their support for Tevez, yet he was nowhere near as effective as Berbatov last season, who was generally disliked by our fans.

  16. Jayunited4eva says:

    The Sun is total rubbish.”Berba:I have failed?” And everything they say is rubbish.They add stuff in,come up with their own nonsense.

  17. Kings says:

    He is class and I love the guy. The goals will come trust me. The fact that he was desperate to join United is enough to make me appreciate the guy. He was breathtaking on Wednesday when he came on and linked up well with Rooney. He’ll score tomorrow. Dimitar – a.k.a Andy Garcia.

  18. Isaidso says:

    Some folk need to wise up! The gripe from many is that Berba slows our game down too bloody much, but the UNDENIABLE truth that flashed out to anyone who had a pair of eyes on Wednesday, is that Berba actually quickened and SPARKED our game into LIFE from the dead. Before he came on the pitch, we had suffered 25 minutes of languished football. Soon as he came on, one touch football, invention of passing movement, and more passion came to our game. Berba showed that he is a master of making opportunities for other with his class brand of football – perhaps United fan doubters will now see that it is not Berba who is languished!

    Regards Rooney and having to miss the L’pool/Moscow games maybe – I for one couldn’t care less, and I hope we WALLOP both those teams without him. For two reasons – He for the last few games has had his flaws highlighted. He cannot pass and find a red shirt, his close control is missing, and he in wanting to be United Saviour and THE MAIN MAN, has stopped looking at his own game areas to be improved, and has started turning on team mates and lambasting them for his failures and frustrations. I don’t care how GREAT Rooney is, I hate his gobshite-ism, and his current adopted treatment of other players around him!

  19. King George the Switzer says:

    Spot on Scott. I love Berbatov.

    Dimitar should definitely shoot more often but I don’t think it’s a problem with just him. Our entire team should shoot more often! It’s almost like most our players are a bit overawed being at United and feel like they’ve got to play it safe a bit too much. Look at Carrick – what a shot the lad’s got but he only pulls it out half a dozen times a year!

    Get that goal peppered lads!

  20. Don Pablo says:

    I agree with 8aashishm. Why should we bring up Tevez every now and then. We’re giving him more airtime than our players yet he plays for a small club. We should just stop talking about him as no United fan needs to be convinced how stupid and a waste of space he was, the reception he got tells you how low he’s held. I’d rather read an article on how Josh King et al are doing in the reserves.

  21. Scott the Red says:

    Don Pablo – I’ve already answered that question.

    I’m putting in the comparison with Tevez because the fans loved him and went as far as disrespecting our manager to offer up their support for Tevez, yet he was nowhere near as effective as Berbatov last season, who was generally disliked by our fans.

  22. Sam the kenyan red says:

    Go on berba !!! I cant believe people who used to critisize him are now becoming his defenders!! (scott included) Tomorrow am wearing my BERBATOV 9 agree with you ghtt berba is magic !!

  23. devil@singapore says:

    could not greed more with è article. read berba interview earlier in é day & it’s a understatement to say i m touch. fanstatic attitude! his breakthrough will come i m sure. heaven always bless è good guy. of late, é man utd boys seems to be giving fanstatic interviews & saying all è right stuff huh…evra, evan, welbeck, neville, anderson, owen, now berba! were fergie sending them for interview training? haha!

  24. dela says:

    @don Pablo, 8aashism
    Tevez has openly declared that Berba was the primary reason for his leaving. Plus a large section of our fans seemed to rue his departure and claimed that we were better off without Berba. Like it or not, you really can’t judge berba’s first season without drawing a comparison with Tevez.

  25. Martin S. says:

    Can’t wait to see his magic tomorrow night again. Excellent post on Berbatov!

    This Bulgarian is indeed a genius, a Manchester United genius!

  26. Sam the kenyan red says:

    SCOTT why tevez all the time?? Even the shit press has stopped bringing the cunt issue against us, we have moved on for christ sake!! Instead you could have used the space to give us the link to reserves goals.

  27. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    Berba was awesome in the last game.
    When he came on to replace Owen(who I like) it was like we had thrown a Berbatov Cocktail into their defensive line. He is top quality and is starting to attract the praise he has always deserved since he joined us last season.

    Throw the BERBATOV COCKTAIL Fergie !

  28. aig alex is god says:

    @Sam the kenyan red

    Scott has answered that question and tevez himself blamed berba for his exit without realising what more the silky bulgarian can bring to our game.thats why the comparision.and then there are always stories as to whether we were right to let tevez go and all that crap so Scott is right in justifying that we took a good decision

  29. Sam the kenyan red says:

    what about nani ?? :@

  30. steve says:

    Come on, you wouldn’t expect that fucking worthless newspaper to have a fair headline would you? Berbatov however, is absolutely class and it really gets on my nerves to hear fellow United supporters or supporters from other clubs saying he’s flopped.

  31. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    @SAmtheKenyan red

    Nani drives me insane. He seems to have lots of talent. Anabundance of talent but I am getting the feeling that he must be intellectually a bit dim.
    He keeps showing that he does NOT have a “footballing brain” I think that a footballing brain can be and is taught at Carrington. Whether the player has enough brains to be taught anything is my doubt. The best players have always had intelligence and the ability to learn. I think the tactical skills and awareness that Uniteds staff teach so well is going in one ear and out the other with Nani. The floodlights are on but nobody is in the stands if you get what I mean…..

  32. aig alex is god says:

    off topic

    michael owen should return next week.great news.should be bak for the Bolton game

    http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6640697

  33. afromanc says:

    Great article! I love Berbatov’s style and of course his genuine attitude is awsome but at the end of the day he has said it himself. He needs to step up. He needs to be a bit more aggressive in the box and ultimately score more goals. We need to be able to play Berba on his own upfront when wazza and MO7 are injured(God forbid) and still rely on him to get goals… He does need to step up a tad, and i believe he will…C’MON BERBA YOU’VE GOT IT SON!

  34. Isaidso says:

    @ ReadcarefullywhatIsaid – I bet you were one of those saying the same derogatory things or similar about Berbatov last season – right? Also were you one of those crediting Tevez with a brain and Boo-ing SAF when he hauled Tevez off last game of the season. I have to ask!

  35. peposhi says:

    http://sportal.bg/news.php?id=197881

    off topic…

    Anyone noticed that Berba and Rooney are interchanging not only positions on the field but training suits as well :) :)

  36. Isaidso says:

    @afromanc – Perhaps Berba would score for us much more mate – IF our other strikers had his vision and looked to find him in the box. Many times he has been well positioned in the box waiting for the pass, only to see our other strikers selfishly taking potshots from outside the area and SKYING them into the stands.

  37. angrykid says:

    Berba-tope(as fondly called by most nigerians)= The controller of any object in the air… Pure class. Love him from day one

  38. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    @Scott
    what does a guy have to do around here to get you to subscribe to emilys videos
    a few links to your shop in the sidebar of emilys videos here
    always supporting your website there
    and I love when Tevez is brought up
    it just underlines that he’s a money grabbing whore
    or that he was a hard working player with no real end product
    and that he is really hype rather than the real deal like Berbatov

  39. afromanc says:

    @Isaidso
    Perhaps you are right. Don’t get me wrong I love berbatov, I just think he is going to have to adapt to the teams style of play rather than the team adapting to his…Berba is a genius and i have 100% faith in him especially because Alex ferguson does….

  40. Kaza says:

    i havent been a berba supporter but im glad he is starting to play well. i’ve watched most of the games this season (living in australia sucks when its game day) and his performances against spurs, city and wolfsburg have been tremendous. he looked a lot more energized and he reaped the rewards. if he could play with that energy in all the games, then he would justify the price tag, but unfortunately so far he hasnt been able to do that. in saying that i hope that this performance spurs him on to keep on playing with that intensity because when berba plays good, so does united

  41. Gary says:

    I thought Berbatov was quite impressive against City and Wolfsburg, but I still though don’t buy this “If you don’t get Berbatov, you don’t get football.” football has all ways been about opinions, and to claim someone doesn’t understand football because they don’t rate Berbatov is wrong.

    The bloke still has alot to do to convince me. Nothing personal against him, I just really don’t think he’s a United player. There wouldn’t be a debate if there wasn’t a problem, that tells you everything.

  42. exiledred says:

    Excellent article Scott and I can completely understand the need to compare him to that little argie twat. Berba is pure class and I actually think the team are still getting used to just how good he is. Last season he and everyone else was overshadowed by Ronny. I think this year could be huge for him. What I also like is just how open and honest he is about his own performances and his feelings for Utd. Top man, top player….

  43. tunnelboy says:

    I said last season that I didn’t think his workrate was the problem. For me the issue was that it was all done outside the box and that I never saw him bust a gut to get on the end of something! I only remember the one time which was Spurs at home where he laid the ball off then sprinted 30 yds to score a header. Do that more often, Berba mate, and you’ll be a legend!

    One thing I love about this club is ramming words from the morons in the press back down their throats!!

    Scott, I think 8aashishm & others have a point. I clearly understand why you brought him into this article but I’m also sick of his bitter back-biting. As far as I’m concerned, he’s at the best place and we shouldn’t give his rantings any more creedence by discussing them.

  44. King Eric says:

    Have’t had time to read the post or comments yet so it may have already been said. I really do think the fans are starting to love Berba. The other night when he pulled summat off there was just gasps from the stands followed by clapping.

  45. Isaidso says:

    @afromanc – I agree mate, but the problem is the teams style of play IS ALWAYS CHANGING! Still a lot of experimenting going on with our gameplay, even SAF doesn’t feel he knows quite what suits us best as a team. SAF always seems to come out on top though, so that’s what I like.

  46. Isaidso says:

    @King Eric – couldn’t agree with you more. Berba is crying out for the love and hearty support of the United fans, as is Nani. Nani is always there acknowledging the crowd after every goal, no matter who scores it. That’s why I love the lad so much, I saw his pain when he was hauled off at Stoke and the Stoke fans chanting you’ll never be Ronaldo, and the United fans giving him no support, and then loudly cheering Giggsy when he came on. I love Giggsy (legend), but Berba and Nani need more encouragement from the stands. In fact every player should get full support when they are on the field wearing the red shirt – end of! United fans are supposed to be the best for supporting all their players – yeah right – NOT!

  47. kaihnsn says:

    gary,

    so in your opinion what make player’s a united? why you say berba not united player? do you want all the attacking player play their game like tevez or rooney? I love hughes style during his time at united. i love the cole-york pairing. but for me the pleasure watching united in 90′s was cantona.

  48. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    King Eric
    how’d you get on with the post man
    did you get the post

  49. Gary says:

    Isaidso: Well said, I fully understand what your saying, I all ways used to be like that. I remember nearly getting into a fight with a fellow United fan because he was constantly slagging of Saha when we were at home to Newcastle a few seasons back when Ruud has been dropped and Rooney got a brace in a 2-0 win. I don’t like to see fans criticizing players during the match, it helps no one.

    I don’t get on Berbatov’s back at games, and I can’t say I have noticed anyone doing so? Only the odd groan when he gives the ball away but that’s the same for every player. I just haven’t been excited or impressed by him, put it this way if he was lining up against he wouldn’t strike fear into the heart of me.

  50. Gary says:

    kaihnsn: I just think the clubs too big for him. He shouldn’t feel it’s a burden playing for club where there has been so many great players in the past. He really needs to focus on himself and not let things like that worry him. Do you really think Rooney feels extra pressure because of it? No he thrives on it. Nothing personal against Berbatov, I just think he hasn’t got the mentality to be a real top player.

  51. aig alex is god says:

    personally i feel that as fans we should back each an every player in our team.sometimes it really helps the players.maybe the fans should make a berba chant. it will really boost his confidence.he will feel more comfortable.the spurs fans absolutely idolised him and it helped his performances.we should do the same.his class is undoubted.same goes to nani.although berba is being loved a lot more by he fans now and i hope he becomes popular.the guy is so frank and speaks straight from the heart

  52. Isaidso says:

    @Gary – Berbatov is a REAL GREAT PLAYER. If he isn’t showing all that he is for United, perhaps it’s because United fans like yourself only give support to the Rooney’s of this world. I’m sorry Gary but Rooney’s last few games haven’t been anything to shout about. Put this down to a dip in form, or see it as it is, that Rooney in trying to be the main man is trying too desperately, and not to United’s good either. Indiana Jones he is not. Berba changed the whole game on Wednesday and up the tempo and excitement from the minute he joined the fray. Our team including Rooney were doing fuck all up to that point. Berba is so much more talented than most of our players it just beggars belief. It’s notable also that he has struck up a good understanding with Giggsy. Giggs to Berba – goal at Stoke, Berba to Giggsy to Carrick – goal on wednesday. Enough said!

  53. redjoe10 says:

    I love Berba too, I think he’ll show himself to be a great buy.

    Maybe Fergie bought him last season because he knew that we’d have to sell Ronaldo if a massive offer came in and he was picked up as an insurance policy of sorts in case the market went crazy like it did this summer? In that case, this season was always going to be the time that he’d be more of a key player.

  54. Isaidso says:

    @Gary – sorry mate I jumped the gun in my last post to you, becaue I didn’t understand where you were coming from, until I just read your other post. I see that your sentiment is to support every player in Red that’s on the pitch, and I like fellow fans who have that philosophy. I can appreciate that Berba doesn’t do it for you, as he does for others, but like you say that is fandom! I think we would see Berba really come out of the timidity shell though if he felt more love and support from the United faithful. I noticed all his team mates said that BERBA IS VERY SHY, and they bring him out of his timidity by rallying round him with love and great support! So sorry for misreading you Gary – I apologise mate!

  55. sam the kenyan red says:

    what matters here is consistency if berba can perform to the level of wolfsburgs game week in week out,then he will surely live to his price tag and be usefull to us.

  56. Isaidso says:

    @samthekenyanred – but Sam do you apply that same criteria to EVERY United player then – because to be honest not one player, whatever club he plays for, can hit consistency of performance for a whole season. Bound to have little dips in form. Especially when having such long seasons and so many games without respite!

  57. sam the kenyan red says:

    @isaidso
    i meant if he can put that kind of perfomance in a few games,then he will be a darling to many.

  58. Red Dave says:

    @ GILES OAKLEY
    i just happened to be flicking through an old copy of the guardian sports section (wednesday, 09,09)
    my eyes were drawn to a particular article on the backpage
    ”clockwatchers stand united”
    to find it was written by you sir
    bravo! small world after all

  59. King Eric says:

    gotta hate – Which post? Scotts Berba post? Absolutely bang on mate. As is my I love John Terry T Shirt! Thank you very much.

  60. Tony Starks says:

    re: Tevez not beeing effective (really sorry to bring him up).. surely his style of play is very different. His work has the effect of pressing defenders in possession, thus forcing mistakes and making them lose possession. Don’t know how you measure that statistically! A good example was in the derby game for City (although he did get the assist then). My point is that statistically you can only measure very similar players..

    Anyway like many fans I am more than happy with Berba, he is by far our coolest player, this is what makes me watch football – the extra things the brilliant pieces of skill etc..

  61. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    king eirc
    that was the post i was on about sds post
    glad ya got your t-shirt mate
    about frickin time

  62. islandred says:

    Last season I was highly critical of Berbatov, and his lack of goals and style of play.

    However, after reading his interview, I can see how deeply he wants to become a legend at United, and the respect he has for the club and the fans.

    His performances this season have improved tenfold, and against Wolfsburg, I was drooling at some of his touches and control.

    Now after reading this, I’ll be getting right behind and him and supporting him all the way – even more so, as I’ve lost time to make up for.

    I get the impression from some ‘pros’ in the game that they couldn’t give a shit about how they performed – they are getting paid a fortune, regardless.

    But not Berbatov – it’s refreshing to hear him say this.

    His attitude IS spot on, he wants to be at United, respects the club’s tradition, and as I say, the fans, and he seems more determined to make a success of himself.

    I’m grateful to him for that, and here’s hoping in the future, I have a lot more to be grateful to him for.

    Dimitar, you have NOT failed!

  63. Vishal says:

    Dude .. Your blog was one of the many voices which joined the chorus of ‘Fergie sign him up’ .. and now u are criticizing him only because fergie dilly dallied on his deal .. making him take up the best offer in the table wich was from City .. !!

    You are showing the stats of the his performance NOW … i dont see any such stats in the posts wich were when he was at united!

    Yea he criticized ur club .. and ferguson as well .. you can attack him for that ..

    The very fact he did not score was because he was mostly used as a sub during the second half .. he was unhappy with that and u guys know it! He moved on to a club where he thought he will get first team football .. anything wrong?

    Berba is getting consistent first team place .. give him a repeated sub role .. and then take his interview .. we will see how happy he is .. !

    You are criticinzing tevez for all the wrong reasons .. You blog is way too irrational at times! But a good read for laughs!

  64. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    @Isaidso

    I have been singing Berbas praises since day 1 and always stood up for him against all the doubters – Rolls Royce with champagne in the coolbox.

    As regards Tevez, I always sang his praises as a tireless, chaser and determined player. Always had a soft spot for all the Argie sto be honest because I lived for a few months in Mendoza and BA and have nothing but fond memories of how welcome I was made to feel by all the “Argies” that I met. So yes maybe I did urge Fergie to “sign him up” and I believe our manager di in fact try to “sign him up”.

    Very sad that he let us down by going to City. However, you are mistaken (once again) in trying to slate me for something I didnt say in the past.

    I dont want you to feel bad about being wrong though mate I am not upset at all and dont bear any grudges against you for your opinion. I would hate you to think I have taken offence as I really havent. In fact please be assured that I couldnt really be less bovvered than Vicky Pollard was when you fingered her with your spare hand whilst you typed your comments on here.

  65. aig alex is god says:

    my only regret regarding berba

    Why didnt he join us in 2006 when he had the chance? .he would have won so much more and he was younger too.anyways he is a fit player and is not injury prone.lets hope this is his seasona dn people start noticing the other things he brings to our game apart from goals

  66. marvsharpe says:

    “….I’m more than happy to pay to watch him play”

    That’s the deciding factor for me. He’s a gem of player and watching him in action is great.

  67. NorwegianDevil says:

    @ Sam the Kenyan red: FYI, Scott has defended Berba since day one.

  68. FailsworthDevil says:

    Form is temporary … Class is Permanent..

    Berba has undoubtly one of the best touches around, and his vision is up amongst the best…

    It was a case of letting him find his feet… settle in, and understand the other players around him… and most importantly the players to get up to speed with how Berba’s football brain works..

    I do think there was underlying issues with regards to Tevez the whore… and Berba… and think Mr B, will prove his worth in the 2nd half of this season… BIG TIME.

  69. Scott the Red says:

    Vishal – I did want us to sign Tevez. Then when he then started criticising the manager and the team whilst still our player, I quickly went off him.

    http://therepublikofmancunia.com/what-happens-when-you-dont-like-two-players-in-your-own-team/

    But I certainly was not one of the thousands of fans chanting “Fergie, sign him up!” over the top of Sir Alex Ferguson’s end of season speech.

    Berbatov played the equivalent of 7 games more than Tevez in the league last season. Just because Tevez threw his dummy out people forget that wasn’t a big difference in their game time last season.

  70. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Vishal
    I know those who are on this who wanted fergie to sign him up
    i know those who hated all over berbatov
    i know when scott was supporting tevez and i also know when it changed
    so to think that scott changed his mind because tevez left is so wrong its funny
    tevez is a fuckin deluded lier
    facts and statments about and from tevez himself has been brought to 1573 united fans since january of this year
    tevez didnt sit well with me since november of last year
    so to say this time last year scott said I WANT TEVEZ
    doesnt mean he’s jumping on a bandwaggon now
    alot has happened with that “man” since then

  71. Wayne Rooney's hair says:

    great work Scott, best article yet…In honor of Berbatov, I am now officially changing my username from “Wayne Rooney’s Hair” to “Berbatov’s Love Life” Glory Glory Man United

  72. joe_MUFC says:

    iv always liked berba ok sometimes he drives me mad when the flicks dont work or when he just stands there,i feel he just needs to do the easy thing more often when the flicks come out and most of the time they do they just leave u shocked and u just have to admire him

  73. horaceTheRed says:

    I like using quantitative qualities to judge stuff, and in this case, check out how Berbatov did last season on the Actim Index:

    http://actimindex.wordpress.com/20082009-season-english-premier-league/

    And in particular:

    http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/premover_index_top10025.gif

    He scored better than EVERYONE ELSE on the team.

    People judge him considering mistakes or apparent ‘slowness’, but I believe if we took off our subjective lens, Berbatov is one of the best players (If not the best) we have in the team.

  74. Bob Koh says:

    You did it again, Scott, another article that hit the nail on the head. Berba is VERY VERY good for ManU and fans who do not think so should look closely at the game play rather than the score at the end.Berba has another 5 years & is at his peak & he’ll be every fan’s favourite soon.

  75. robbo says:

    Great article! I think the majority of people who critizise Dimi Berbagod are young kids (probably not even in puberty yet) who do not appreciate football, real football.
    The rest probabably have never played the game, at least at a decent level to appreciate a fantastic player.
    I have never heard one former or even current player bag Dimi as a player. All have the highest regard for his abilities. Yes, he could score more goals, but so can every other striker. Yes he could shoot more, but he will only shoot if there isnt a better option or if he has a better chance to score than the player he is assisting.
    Just the mere fact that he plays for the best club in the world, our club, should be enough reason to support him and any other player that wears the Man Utd shirt.
    The man is a great player and will be a legend.

  76. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    @Scott The Red

    Scott, I think the way we feel about Tevez could easily have been the subject of a Jeremy Kyle episode.

    I declared my love for my Argentinian man and he swore he loved me too.
    So why did he get into bed with my next door neighbour ?

    “All this on the Jeremy Kyle Show after the break….”

  77. denton davey says:

    He’s still not completely integrated into the team’s attacking play – BUT that is getting better all the time. This is great, great news since the Rooney/Berbatov combination is going to be the crucial hinge on which this season’s success will pivot.

    Last year – yes, even with the “world’s best player” – UTD scored only 68 goals in the EPL which is about twenty-five or thirty lower than the team’s average. Too much depended on CR’s individual brilliance – and the style of play was organized to highlight his brilliance. This year, it’s a new game, a team game so it’s just fantastic to read that for Dimmy Berbatov there’s no “i” in “team”.

  78. PrawnSandwichesRUs says:

    Great work. You have identified that Berbatov scored 9 goals last year. Great return. Why aren’t Real Madrid after him with that sort of payback. And what flicks and workrate – maybe he’s good at morris dancing too.

    Please, he’s a good quality player in the Premiership, he’s not of the class to play for a top team though. Just like Robbie Keane, he has a level and he’s currently playing above it. Send him back and cut the losses.

  79. john ferry says:

    @ READ CAREFULLY WHAT I Said, Ya but..Ya but…Well…Tevez like…He ya..but…well he like whored himself out to like an inferior club…but ya. Berbatov is pure class and with players like Fletcher and Hargo manhandling the midfield, this will shift him to play a little more upfront, then he will be twice as scary to the opposition.

  80. There's Only One United says:

    I too have Been supporting Berba since he joined, I stayed uptill 5 AM in the morning Following Sky’s Coverage on him, waiting for him to sign, praying and all… And After I see He was signed, I WAS SO HAPPY i can’t explain it.

    I feel bad when he doesnt start a match, I love watching him! He is Class, I bet when he heard Sparky was going to see him, he cried, lol!

  81. fze123 says:

    Berbatov is simply a quality high class striker. his touches and flicks are pure magic, who said our team would lack entertainment now than ron’s gone. I would also pay to watch berba play anyday.

    This guy loves utd, wants to be loved by the fans. we need a berbatov chant. plus the fact that he rarely gets injured, it shows us just how much he is willing to play all the time and how he’s careful when it comes to injury.

    I also love how he is being so frank in this interview, “What? How can you even ask that man?” LOL. just love him.

  82. ZD Casuals says:

    “You must remember, they are used to Best, Charlton, Cantona. I am just Dimitar”

    For some reason, I just love that quote!

  83. Corea says:

    He is just like Scholesy.

  84. Isaidso says:

    @ReadcarefullywhatIsaid – I was with you in your heartfelt support for Argies, and your cause for doing so. Then I read your last paragraph, and I realise you don’t have the mentality for intelligent debate. So feel free to steer clear of all my comments, and I will SO IGNORE YOURS too! Cannot be fairer than that! By the way, how old are you, because I have no idea who Vicky Pollard is – some ancient old biddy no doubt!

  85. FusilliJerry says:

    The man’s said it himself: he’s got to score more goals. What I don’t understand is why he plays so deep ? Wasn’t he bought to lead the line, to be the calm head IN THE BOX, after Fergie decided to change the legendary 4-6-0 formation of the 07/08 season ?

  86. Isaidso says:

    Vishal, you said to Scott regarding Tevez “yes he critcised YOUR CLUB, and YOUR MANAGER.” So United are not YOUR club, and SAF not your clubs manager then??? Makes me ask just who your club is, and why you are frequenting a United blog IF you are not a United fan. Or are you a United fan Vishal?

  87. Isaidso says:

    @Samthekenyanred – I understand what you mean about consistency of performance over a good few games – and I agree with you!

  88. CROoney says:

    “. It was a big pressure for me and maybe I failed myself.”

    there – he said it himself – why i was attacked for saying it is beyond me

    some even went that far to say he was brilliant

  89. CROoney says:

    Vishal – spot on on berba – tevez thing

  90. kel says:

    Nice articles Scott. I have been saying Berbatov is a class act and a good player and he is having a good football brain. He thinks more than he acts which is good. For example, nani do more than he think so which is why he can’t make the perfect pass and sometimes makes the wrong move or pass. Nobody is perfect and we should let all kinds of players play their game and not change their game. We should support them whenever we can. I know 30m is a lot of cash and he must score some goals. But if he can make a whole loads of assists and we win the games. I don’t really mind if he get 0 goals in a seasons and makes 30+ assists.

    We should really be reasonable enough and give him more time and now we are seeing more of him than last season. Whenever he gets the ball, i feel safe without him losing possession of the ball unlike tevez where he can’t control the first touch and loss possession tonnes of times. When he gets a lot of the ball, i know he is gonna find a lot of chances to create opportunities for others. I like the other fans also wish he can score more goals and be a threat but we should let people settle for 2-3 years. Same goes for Valencia. He needs time to settle to score more goals. I do very pleased with the way Valencia is playing now.

    Guys, we should support more for our club and not scold some of our players, this is not unite. We are UNITED!!!

  91. kel says:

    Seriously for those doubting and questioning about Scott. You surely seems to come here very less. For those who comes here often knows about Scott. He had many times been saying he becoming less supportive when tevez makes false claims and criticize Sir Alex when he is still in our squad. I am not one of those who asked to sign tevez up. I’m glad that I’m not as i find tevez becoming more and more of the players who think he is bigger than United and want’s to play all the time. He needs to respect and truest the manager just like what Carrick did!!!

  92. Shimo says:

    I tend to agree that Berbatov last season brought a “slowness” to our squad. However, that slowness brought a different aspect to the team and his ability to hold of defenders, take stock of the situation and make the right pass helped us in the single minded attack at speed and that is all. Arsenal are criticized for not being able to vary their game when they need to. With a player like Berbs we were able to change things up.

    This season I’ve noticed a bit of difference in his play. I think he is able to release the ball quicker than last. Also, I see him and Rooney working well between the 18 yard and half of the opponents to where there may have been slow build up suddenly leads to quick passage of play that leads to a chance.

    One of the long standing criticisms is he doesn’t do enough during games. Wednesday I think was a prime example of why I think he doesn’t seem to do enough. If and when he gets the ball he makes things happen. When the midfield bypass him or our passing (which overall has been very loose) doesn’t get him the ball – he can’t impact play.

    The lazy part. The half volley in first half that went over the bar after Giggs looped a pass (which I think was more of a mishit than anything) to the far post, Berbs made tremendous effort to get to it but, if you watch prior to that, he was just kind of walking around – to me that seemed lazy – wtf Berbs get into the box. But, from what he said ““I don’t run for no reason, I am always alert and ready”, so it’s easy for me to call him a lazy git but, there seems to be thought behind what he is doing. Then in the second half when he got marked out and we didn’t get the ball to him – he became a non-factor of sorts. That though is not only his fault – it’s the team’s and if you think about it – that he is getting marked out or drawing so much attention, it opens up the game for others. That was one of the things people said Rooney did for Ronaldo, his presence made it more possible for Ronaldo express himself.

    For his lack of goals – he definitely isn’t as clinical as a RVN/Torress but, he is still good. In the forums section I’ve stated my opinion that I think we aren’t as of yet this season got enough good deliveries in from the wings and feeds into the box. Berbatov has been inside the box a lot more this season than the last but, aside from a few Giggs crosses at the City game which some some point at saying he didn’t score because of not placing better headers, he has not seen that many even half chances.

    As our season progresses I think if he continues to get forward and he’ll end up with more goals than last year.

    Still I think the the contribution he has simply by being a play maker type is his biggest asset than out right goal scoring. He has the ability of a center forward blended with a midfield playmaker. So if he isn’t blazing the trail with goals, as long as we continue

  93. Redsmoke says:

    Great article Scott.

  94. King Eric says:

    Prawnsandwichesare us – Yeah great username you bitter cunt. Never heard that before. Are you a bitter or dipper? Comparing Berba to Keane. How very funny. Keane ain’t fit to lace his boots pal. The thing with United is we give players a chance unlike the FSW who sent him back after 10 starts. Why the fuck are you on here? Must really hurt to see United top of the league and unbeaten in Europe.

  95. King Eric says:

    CROoney – You are starting to wind me up with your non stop negative comments on every post Scott does. Are you after a reaction as you are getting one. If you have nowt positive to say bugger off to 606. May seem harsh but your comments are always the opposite of what everyone else says. Dont make out that you have a better insight or more knowledge of football, you are simply a wind up merchant. How old are you may I ask?

  96. hurr says:

    People who slacked Berba probably are armchair fans who only watch YOOTOOBE videos of the goals and never bother to watch a full match to see how he contributes to the game. He got in 6 minutes to the end of the Arsenal game and only then the attacks started to click. Sad it is too late and we had to take 3 points from an ugly and controversial win.

  97. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Scott the Red
    I am still not convinced with berbatov that he has done enough in a united shirt. yes he played well against wolfsburg but since he has arrived and going into this season he does not hurt opponents in the most crucial areas. yes he has great touch but his goals return is poor at best 16 goals in just over a year is quiet woeful at best. I do not class him in the same breath has players like ronaldo messi kaka rooney torres xavi iniesta henry. scot the only way you are right and he has proved everyone wrong is if he has done it week in week out, look how ronaldo has driven united to success. until berbatov has scored about 24 to 30 goals a season, he has made game changing decisions and has looked like a player worth 30 million then I am sorry ppl like me will not be convinced.

  98. Kings says:

    PrawnSandwichesRUs – Jog on you cunt.

  99. Wazza says:

    @Isaidso: Vishal is a chelsea fan bro.. And my dear brother. The number of arguments we have at home is very insightful perspective wise !

  100. hurr says:

    What the hell @manutdchampions2008 almost everytime you came here you’re always post negative shite. Wth @ comparing him to Messi, Ronaldo, Kaka etc… You want 11 Messis and Ronaldos in the starting XI go watch other team. Go watch Real and their Galacticos why don’t you. So, he needs to score at least 30 a season to prove himself? Why don’t you be more realistic? Who the hell can consistently score that much a season? Maybe only 1 in a 1000 players. RVN can but how does that help? We only won the league once in the 5 seasons he’s with us, IIRC. We’ve continued to win and we’re at the top of the table now and that’s all that matters.

  101. Mic says:

    Right I hate Tevez as much as the next guy now but compare his first season with Berbatovs, how many times did Tevez have to come off the bench compared to Berbatov? I think we’re being far too harsh on Tevez considering he scored vital after vital goal for us during our most successful season during the 2000s (in terms of prestige in trophy) Ronaldo may have scored 42 goals but Tevez played a massive part and got vital goals against Lyon, Chelsea, Liverpool etc…

    I do prefer Berbatov myself but stop comparing him to Tevez, if you want to compare Tevez to someone compare him to Rooney ‘cuz that’s who in all fairness he was competing with and that’s why we got rid, Tevez offers us nothing that Rooney can’t offer if we asked him too, without Ronaldo we don’t need Tevez, we don’t need players to cover for his mistakes anymore, we don’t need all that running about, we need class and as for impact subs, we’ve got the best there is, Owen.

    Remember with Tevez, in 5 years he’ll be at Boca too so he offers no resale value either, don’t want that at my club.

  102. thedevil85 says:

    yeah agree, he is a playmaker/striker but not a poacher type , nor is big wayne,hence saf bringin michael (the fox in the box)owen to the team.
    berbs n rooney are to good technically to not have the ball so they go deep in search of possesion when really they shud leave to midfielders! not knocking them like, but owen is the type who stays up and is always there to react to bounces in the box. to me if a goal gets scored from 5yard tap in or 30yard scorcher,they are still just a goal in prem league terms,altho 30 yarders more pleasing to the eye,
    right place at the right time is intelligent play in my eyes.
    ROONEY,BERBS N OWEN ARE ALL GREAT STRIKERS WITH DIFFERENT STRENGTHS N WEAKNESSES,BUT HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT COZ THEY PLAY FOR MAN UTD!
    EVEN NANI PROVE THE CRITICS WRONG,AM SURE ABOUT THAT!
    EARLY GOAL WILL HELP TOMORROW,surrender brucie!

  103. redguy says:

    I have been wanting to leave a comment on ROM for a while and now i have found the perfect article to start.
    The second Berba came to us i loved him from then on. His attitude, as you put so well Scott, is awesome… especially as more and more of our players seem to be falling in love with the club.
    I was really suprised at the way BerbaGod was treated last year. Sitting in the Stretford end, i expected those around me to appreciate the amazing skill and class this fella possesses. But he was forever criticised and jeered by our OWN FANS!!
    Now i know we expect the best, but anyone who puts on that red shirt needs our support!… If its Berba or John Smith from Salford! Thats assuming he was shit. But i saw a bloke who was coming to a dream club and having to find his feet. I defy anyone to come to United and do as well as Berba in a first season, the important goals, assists etc…
    I also seem to remember the critisism Darren ‘the football genius’ Fletcher recieved. Now look at him!
    All in all, he is proving his worth. I didn’t need all these brilliant quotes from him about how amazing our club is… he had me sold the second he touched the ball in the red shirt. Now i think we have to get behind him 100% every second, of every game.
    Dimi…Pure class!!

  104. manutdchampions2008 says:

    hurr
    Did you read my post no you did not? I used 2 sets of targets 24 goals or 30, if berbatov can’t get too 24 goals then you have to question if he good enough. I did not say he needs to score a maximum of 30 goals to prove himself but if he all that like scott thinks he is then 30 should be no problem. And to blame van nistlerooy for winning 1 league title is quiet unfair and small minded. Do not forget united had the worst squad ever under fergie the 03/04 squad which we were fielding at times kleberson djemba bellion p neville howord all in one 11 at one time so that has no argument, van nistlerooy came at the wrong time.

    berbatov cost 30 million and his job is to hurt opponents and score goals, we already have Rooney who will not always score very week. We do not need 2, another thing when did I say we need 11 messis or ronaldos stop posting garbage response to try and justify your post. I would rather a messi and a torres in the united side than valencia and berbatov who both are limited in terms of goals return, when the reality is fergie tried to sign a striker which means he is not convinced with berbatov, united are still short of 2 wingers a striker and another CM. So let’s get this right you would rather mediocre rubbish like Valencia than say the best, aren’t united supposed to be the biggest club in the world by your response there that does not sound like it.

  105. kel says:

    @manutdchampions2008 I guess you better change teams to support. You are a disgraceful fans. If you were a united fans then you really better change to Real Madrid. Go now. No point comparing players. At the end of the day, i don’t want superstars in my favorite club. I want players who loves being in united. I love players who work hard even if they are not the best. I love the player for how they play. If you want messi, ronaldo, good wingers. Then go play your championship manager in your computer or go support Real Madrid. Pitiful if you were a united fans. I don’t think you can call yourself united fans cause you surely are not~

  106. joered says:

    Bless him.
    Attitudes like his, scholes and giggs are what Utd are about!

  107. Scott the Red says:

    manutdchampions2008 – so before you will be convinced, Berbatov has to be as effective as Ronaldo? So, you’re not expecting much from him then?

    There isn’t a single player in our squad who has been effective as Ronaldo was week in week out, (I include Scholes and Giggs in that) so why you think Berbatov should match Ronaldo is beyond me.

    £30m is a lot of money, course, but that’s how much we had to pay to get him. There wasn’t up for debate. So if you’d rather £30m in our pocket than Berbatov, then fair play, but I think that’s mad. Or do you think we could have got Messi, Iniesta, Torres for £30m the summer before last?

  108. Isaidso says:

    Kel – I wouldn’t waste my time responding to manutdchampions2008 mate, or others like him, because one thing SOME United fans are very good at is KILLING their own playing troops, and that with unfriendly fire. Talk about the enemy within eh? You just keep the faith man, and support EVERY player on the pitch wearing a Man Utd shirt, and they will in time give you a return for your faith and supprt of them! The Stretford enders boo-ing and jeering Berba are not the Stretford enders of old mate, because the REAL STRETFORD ENDERS sang their hearts out and protected every player from the stands with fierce verbal support against all comers from fans of the opposition.

  109. King Eric says:

    manunitedchampions2008 – Another CM? Are you fucking insane? How many do we need. We have Fletch, Scholes, Anderson, Carrick, Hargreaves, Gibson. Do NOT tell me these are not good enough mate. At the minute all those mentioned are either playing superbly or starting to find their form.

  110. King Eric says:

    Another thing your logic is mental. As we are the biggest club in the world does that mean we need to buy all the most expensive players? By your logic it would appear so. It is all about the balance which over the years our manager ain’t done “too bad” at getting that balance spot on.

  111. UnitedRay says:

    Berbatov is pure class…. I saw that from the start.
    Yes, for a moment it did appear that he is a tad lazier but who wouldn’t appear so when playing beside Rooney and Tevez?
    Besides central striker are supposed to stay near the center and not running around like headless chicken lest the formation loses its spearhead and crosses unable to find target man.

    However scott, I have to agree with 8aashishm.
    Your comparison is not invalid. Hell no.
    Just that we feel that we should get this ingrate out of our minds already.
    I despise traitors and a part of me still hate David Beckham for leaving United.
    Hell, I also hate Schimeichel for playing for the bitters and claiming their fans are great!
    So let us forget Tevez so that the hurt can be minimized. :)

    UnitedRay from Singapore.

  112. UnitedRay says:

    Berbatov is pure class…. I saw that from the start.
    Yes, for a moment it did appear that he is a tad lazier but who wouldn’t appear so when playing beside Rooney and Tevez?
    Besides central striker are supposed to stay near the center and not running around like headless chicken lest the formation loses its spearhead and crosses unable to find target man.

    However scott, I have to agree with 8aashishm.
    Your comparison is not invalid. Hell no.
    Just that we feel that we should get this ingrate out of our minds already.
    I despise traitors and a part of me still hate David Beckham for leaving United.
    Hell, I also hate Schimeichel for playing for the bitters and claiming their fans are great!
    So let us forget Tevez so that the hurt can be minimized. :)

    UnitedRay from Singapore.

  113. NBI Red Onion says:

    Berbatov played really really well on wednesday, he was a pleasure to watch.

    We do need t support him and Nani. But Berbatov is 28 and the article in Sun and others was a bit worrying in the sense that he does not come across as very mentally strong, United players thrive on pressure and the big stage, even quiet ones like Scholes, Berbatov struggles mentally – not good.

    I hope he can go on from here and do better, but he is still a bit of an enigma and there is still a question mark, what I would like to see is him and Owen start a few games together.

    Owen is inteligent and a box player, I think Owen and Berbatov are more of a natural fit than Berba and Rooney.

    We do need another out and out striker though, 2 out and out strikers and Berba and Owen would be class.

    A good point was made, no one fears Berba, that is a bit worrying for a striker, he has to get the goals in and get scary – we need people to fear him grrrrrrrr !!!!

    (And I agree, let’s stop talking about Tevez, it is really too much and a lot of nonsense in some cases, move on! He worked hard for us, who knows what happened with him and management, it is not difficult to understand why he moved on, he did not know Ronaldo would be sold and he’d have more opportunities to start. He is quite a good player, I wish him well, but I would like him to also stop talking down United / SAF)

  114. kel says:

    @Isaidso A moment of angry caught me. I apologize for it as i really hate to see our own fans not thinking of the club and thinking for themselves. I agree with you what you said. We have seen so many examples of our REAL fans supporting the players when in difficult times like Beckham, Ronaldo. We should support them and welcome them and that way we will get our repay just like Vidic, Evra, Fletcher did. I really like to see our players prosper in the way fletcher did and i believe we will. We need to stand by them and let them progress in their pace. Let the manager decide if it is good for the team and not the fans who decide when to let them player leave.

  115. manutdchampions2008 says:

    King Eric
    when you break it down I think united do need another CM player. you look through the list and yes there are numbers but not much cover or quality.
    carrick is poor he had a decent game but I am not convinced. anderson is not a CM player. hargreves may never come back right again, scholes has not got much time left, fletcher is awesome. but united ned a top class CM player they are lacking that bit of control in the middle to balance fletcher in the middle. nani valencia park not good enough and a couple of wide players are needed. united are also desperate for a central striker and put rooney back where he belongs the second striker.

    kel
    didnt smith kleberson and djemba enjoy playing for the club and loved it does not mean they are good enough did it. the irony is ronaldo this superstar u dnt ever wanted playing for the club was the main factor behind the success of the last 3 years. especially 2008

  116. Corea says:

    As Jake said in the summer some of us wouldn’t mind if this season would have been a season without major trophies and a season we built a new team. I wouldn’t mind also. But now we see that we have every chance in the world to win titles and it makes me proud of us and our manager. He will get players next year or maybe not. Nani has lots of potential, Valencia is strong and fast etc (should use his left foot). There are players who will make progress and may develop into the players we need to build a strong and massive team. All they need is belief.
    So shut da fuck up and remember what 99% of us thought at a time about Fletcher’s progress.
    I said it once and i will say it one again. I wouldn’t swap Sheasy for Bosingwa, Ramos and so on. You know why.
    There some things you can’t buy.

  117. Los Angeles Red Devil says:

    Berba is genius, I can watch him play all day.

  118. Isaidso says:

    @NBIRedOnion – It is to Berba’s advantage that nobody fears him, because they are not then giving him a lot of attention, and this gives him opportunity to express his skills, without bone crunching tackling on him from the butchers of the PL. This is why Berba keeps mostly injury free. Look how many times he found space in the box in the City game. Their players were watching Rooney, Giggsy etc – and Berba was finding a glut of space. Long may the opposition continue to NOT FEAR HIM!

  119. Isaidso says:

    @Kel – If some of our fans were to decide who leaves OT, believe me Fletcher would have been long gone. Just goes to show how wrong fans can be eh?

  120. aig alex is god says:

    @Isaidso

    agree mate.We have to give him time.he is a class act and we know it.just needs to cevelop an even better understanding with rooney.sure it will happen as the season progresses.

  121. Isaidso says:

    @aigalex – yeah mate – I just hope the Berba/Rooney partnership will develop, because they are both the kind of players that like to be just behind a main striker, even IF SAF IS TRYING to groom Rooney for the front striker role. Sadly Wayne is not able to hold the ball up, because he hasn’t got the consistent close ball control needed to make the ball stick with him until other players can catch up. Berba does have that stickability though, he can hold the ball from oncoming defenders, until the other lads get time to run into their positions alongside him. I don’t think Wayne and Berba have any kind of understanding, but you see that Berba/Giggsy do seem to be on the same wave length. It happens like that, partnerships just click. I just can’t see Wayne and Berba being on the same wavelength, but I hope I am wrong. Berba is THE PLAYMAKER though, together with Giggsy who is also able to do that Role.

  122. Baum Marten says:

    He is great and they should love him! He is working hard for the team and has awesome technique!

  123. ozzmufc says:

    damn right, anyone who says that berba is a poor lazy player doesnt know a good footballer when they see one.
    when berba came on for owen on wednesday the game changed massivly.
    I LOVE BERBATOV!

  124. kel says:

    @manutdchampions2008 do agree with you however, if it is a flop so be it. Who knows it will be? Let the time do the talking. For now we just support them and let them feel at home and that is what fans can do. The rest is all to them. We are in for a transition period where giggs, scholes, neville is going to retired. I bet we will find some players in the next few seasons. Right now we don’t have much people to look for.

    @Isaidso Yeah. Sometimes fans might be wrong. If we can support the players all the time at least we can say it proudly if he became a great player. Even if he can’t become a great player, at least we show our support to them.

  125. redscot says:

    It certainly raises debate Dear Dimatar, I have my own views and shall remain silent, take the loss if you see a better player for the price because of non United fans and the media have created, in bringing down one of the best and skilled players we have seen, ok.Dont forget its a knock at Manchester United, and poke at Sir Alex, in whom I trust in choice of most players he signs.

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