Now retired, Gary Neville believes that Rafael da Silva has all the attributes to keep as Manchester United’s first choice right-back for years to come.
“He’s more than capable of going on to become United’s right-back for many, many years,” he told the official site. “His performances in the last six months in particular have been brilliant. He’s matured and really come of age. I remember when I was young defender you need that time to mature and get experience. Rafael’s always had ability – he gets to the ball quickly, he’s aggressive, he defends his position well, he’s tough, courageous, good on the ball and provides energy in attack, but he’s really developed in the last six months with games and experience. He has a great attitude too.”
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Ok Gary , lets hope Rafael is fit and ready for Saturday.
Ready for ninja attack on tevez.
Don Ferguson: How’s your boy?
Mankini: He’s good.
Don Ferguson: You know, he looks more like you every day.
Mankini: He’s smarter than I am. Three years old, and he can already read the funny papers.
Don Ferguson: [laughs] Read the funny papers…”
The next time someone comes on here and slags off Evans or Smalling, they would do well to have GNev’s profound words shoved down their throat: “I remember when I was young defender you need that time to mature and get experience.”
Mankini: Tevez, where are you going?
[Tevez hoots the car and starts to drive it; Gary Neville gives a quick, furtive movement... ]
Mankini: NO! NO! TEVEZ! [the car explodes] “
“Phil Neville :Gary, is it true? Did you have Tevez murdered?
Gary: Don’t ask me about my business, Phil “
Well, rafael certainly has the rat-faced viciousness of Gary Neville down to a T.
Awww rat face,lol as long as he fucks u stupid vermin he can have any kind of face.
Make sure yr wife is not looking she might like him.
@statesideaussie
It does apply to smalling what nev said, but in case of Evans it is slightly different we have seen what he is capable of in the past but I guess even Sir Alex isnt confident of starting him ahead of smalling after the last game, he needs to get back his form pretty quickly as these are times where fans are very impatient and lot of games are coming up where we need.quality backup to Ferdinand n vidic
Fifthcolumblu……… lets just see how Scar neck gets on against him shall we….. Scarface, hopefully, will have fucking lumps kicked out of him
Rafael is the best wing back in the premier league at the.moment
And I’m wondering is their any other Brazilian who adapted to premier league to such an extent in such short period of time
FilthyColonBlue has spent his life in the sewer, being rejected by rat and man alike.
yo smarty alex in da house yo
lol
@ancho … after the last match, SAF basically said that Rio’s last-minute injury during the pre-match warm-up caught them on the hop. He said they would normally have replaced Rio with Smalling, because that’s the side of central defense that Smalling usually plays on, but instead they had to play Evans as Smalling had not warmed up or was not ready. In other words, he said Evans was played out of position. I guess a lot of people think it doesn’t matter what “side” a “central defender” plays on, it’s the same either way, but I guess SAF disagrees.
And, as some have rightly pointed out, our defensive failings in the last match also came at two set plays. The point being that we had two highly experienced senior players in defense that day, Vidic and VDS (one of them the club captain), and surely it is up to them to organize the defense for set plays.
It’s true that Evans has had some scratchy performances recently. And listen, I am not against all criticism of our players. I am not saying they are beyond criticism. But some of the bile that is poured out by some of our fans is beyond the pale. Especially for defenders, since in their craft, positional play is the most difficult thing to teach and to learn.
lol@smartalex.
Hey Dave, playing the hits, I see!
FilthyColonBlue must be Johnny English, twit.
A fifth column is a group of SECRET supporters of an enemy that operates within your borders.
By calling himself Blue, it’s hardly a secret that he is a city fan. He should purge his filthy colon in the sewer he crawled out of.
FilthyColonBlue
Goes to High School parties
25 years old
He’s gone.
@smartalex: phew ,how is it? just gave it a try,did one yesterday. was worried i wud have topay royalties to u or something.
Off the topic – them Scum bastards at City’s forum Bluemoon have put a post on there about “Painting Busby’s Statue Blue” and covering it up by saying it’s a tribute to him as he played for them. We all know Sir Matt was unfortunate enough to play for the dirty scum fuckers however surely there is something out there that can stop vile like this being published?! I’m all for banter but publicly mocking a dead man?! The comments on there are unbelievable! One dickhead has written “Oh, someone beat me to it then?!” Surely the moderators should stop this?! Just when I thought that vile “club” couldn’t stoop any lower they condone this? They are making out this is a tribute so lets put it into perspective shall we? Saturday – 15 minutes before kick-off – bitter scum bag climbing up a ladder – marches over to Sir Matt’s Statue – tin of Delux sky blue paint in his hand – starts painting away – finishes the job in front of thousands of reds heading into the ground – what are they expecting to happen?! A fucking round of applause because he used to play for that scum?! How they can get away with publishing vile like that is beyond me!!!! Someone please elaborate… is there anything out there that protects the deceased and their families against vile like this? I wouldn’t mind but I’m sure that site is officially affiliated to that “club”
Good day (good evening?) StatesideAussie.
Regarding your comment at 11:11; agreed, in the post match analysis SAF, Mike and Rene will have identified Vidic and Edwin’s failure to organize the defense as the reason behind the set play goals.
@petemanc: They wont be able to do it unless they want a riot and it will cause a storm plus retaliation. Dont worry dude.
@Dave Malaysia
I know they won’t be able to do it mate, what I meant was – is there any law out there that stops websites like that publishing vile and mocking the deceased and their families?
“viva da silva, running upthe pitch, dont know which is which”
Dave Malaysia they are very good! Royalties should be paid into a saving plan to get you to Old Trafford. Drink plenty of your ‘milk of malaysia’ and hammer out those screen play adaptations for RoM’s amusement!
@petermanc: No dude,the net policing is not possible unless u go to court maybe.
smartalex: tq but whats milk of malaysia?
@Dave Malaysia – Thanks for the info pal, make you glad to be a Red when you see how that scum behave…
Dave, ‘milk of malaysia’ will be your local drink. As scotch is to Scotland, or sake is to Japan.
In other words, a drunk poet knows no bounds. Drink, type, submit, drink.
Rafael has bags of ability and will only get better… Its easy at times to forget how young he still is… In one or 2 years tops he will be the best full back in the world.
smartalex
Nicely picked up from wayne’s post on the other thread…cracked me up mate
@Dave and @Petermanc … not only is “net policing” virtually impossible, you wouldn’t get very far in court either. Much as it pains me to say it (since we are talking about Sir Matt), but the laws of defamation do not apply to dead people, period. Like it or not, anyone can say what the hell they like about anyone who’s dead. Lies, character assassination… in the eyes of the law, it’s all OK. (Hey, I’m not defending any of it, just telling it like it is…)
@ lol smartalex we don have a local milk as u put it,officially.
@StatesideAussie @petemanc
The only alternative is to attack thier website ,denial of service or all kinds of shit.
Not that we condone any kind of irregular behaiviour.
lol
petemanc
I guess that anyone can be considered accountable for inciting violence , spewing vitriol, or suggesting the defacement of a monument. Proving guilt is another matter, and as the punishment would be minimal (unless death, etc occurred) it really is unlikely to be considered.
If, however,the website is connected to city, I would expect action by the authorities, including a public apology by city. Their suggestion on the eve of the Derby would go against all their agreements with the law. Refusal by city to publicly denounce their action would result in serious punishment; e.g. no away support, no home crowd (future games) or points deduction.
Big T (terrorism) raises its ugly blue head. Cut it off!
@smartalex, 11:49 … good comments.
@dave and petermanc … the best response is to beat the bastards silly in the only way that really matters: winning on Saturday.
ok me go now have dinner,then drink local milk.
Good morning (5 minutes left?) CedarsDevil
Dave, wiki suggests ‘Tuak’
“Tuak is made from fermented rice which sometimes sugar, honey or other various condiments are added. It is normally served lukewarm without ice. Visitors can choose from ‘strong’ flavour of tuak (which is normally being fermented for years), or ‘mild’ flavour (which sometimes just being prepared a week or even a day before). Tuak in Kelantan is also can be considered as a liquor since that it contains trace amount of fermented nipah or sap juice. The alcohol content in Kelantan tuak can easily reach 50% after 3 days from the time it was extracted.”
Rafael
The Rise of the Dark Side
Cue the music from Star Wars: The Imperial March with Paul Scholes leading Gary and all
FilthyColonBulb
Heart is Red
Hemorrhoid is blue
Tuak me away
Hey CedarsDevil, that ‘tuak’ sounds dangerous! 50% alcohol content!
Although, I never really understood the ‘proof’, ‘percentage’, etc with alcohol. That’s because it only ever comes up when drinking high-alcohol beverages!
I’m having a heart atuak.
smartalex
Seems you have not tried Absinthe which is fairly common in Eastern Europe… Comes with an alcohol percentage of over 80%!! Illegal in most parts of the West, surprise surprise!
One shot of this stuff and you feel like you’ve just swallowed a burning oil field!
CedarsDevil I have tried that Absinthe! Fuck me, it was insane. I don’t think it’s just alcohol, there’s some other narcotic effect that to me spells ‘Stay Away’
It cures you by killing you, “see, he’s not sick anymore, he’d dead!”
Should be called Abstain, not Absinthe. It’s absinful.
smartalex… lol
Too right mate, that stuff is insane and would easily kill you! Had it a couple of times, it makes you so delusional that you could in fact think that shitty were an actual football club
Fifthcolumnblue (10:51)
I actually take that as a compliment for Rafael
Top comments from Gary and well met. Hope that Rafael will push on from here and really claim the spot. He had fitness issues and SAF was right to rotate JOS and Brown, but the past 4 months Rafael has had a more consistent run and been doing the business. Needs to stop the silly fouls and cards. More games is exactly what Rafael needs right now.
Rafael is one of my favourite players in the team right now. It is very obvious that he’s going to be a top top right back. all he needs to do is channel his temper into his football and he’ll be Ok. he is an “untouchable” to me in the squad.
Not surprising they chose crater-face as a blue moon poster boy.
lol@smartalex, “i’m having a heart atuak”. te-he. “Proof” is an old system of measuring alcoholic content. In the really old days, you could “prove” the alcohol content of grog by seeing if it would burn: 100% proof is the point where it has enough good stuff to burn. I believe that equates to about 50% alcohol by volume. I used to drink gallons of Bundaberg rum (aka, “Queensland diesel”, because once you get a bellyfull, nothing will stand in your way). And yes, the “overpoof” variety does burn. Cheers!
RAFA DA SCRAPPA!!!!!
Legend and future legend.
not only a legend, but a good judge of character – well done, gary!
@StatesideAussie
“The point being that we had two highly experienced senior players in defense that day, Vidic and VDS (one of them the club captain), and surely it is up to them to organize the defense for set plays.”
you’re even worse than the evans haters here (me, hah), at least i have points. did you see the replays? he was in position. the problem is when the person he was marking moved he was STILL IN THE SAME POSITION. if by that you mean vds & vidic each have to hold johnny’s hands and tug him where to move.
there was another goal (maybe last season, can’t remember) one of da silva twins was guarding the far post. corner kick comes in, he is caught ball watching, strays from his spot and whaddya know? they score right at that spot).
both were wrong. what’s the difference? evans wasn’t guarding a goalpost.
“It’s true that Evans has had some scratchy performances recently.”
scratchy performances = very very very true
recently = vast understatement
Thanks Statesideaussie, you proofed that point well! Interesting how unscientific we were so recently. Of course I should have remembered that the topic of alcohol passes Australian lips during exhales between swallows. Bit of a mouthful, as always!
@smartalexx, Cedars Devil
Tuak is only available in the rural areas of Malaysia… No way of getting a pint of that anywhere in Kuala Lumpur… I vote for Anchor… It’s local, until one of the bigger beer companies bought it over sadly… .
That being said, really hope Rafael keeps Tevez in his pocket the whole time at Old Trafford.. Really hope Ferdinand makes it though… Would make me a whole lot more confident….
Rafael needs to focus on the game and ignore any attempt, from City’s players, to get him booked, or even sent off.
Hate to rant, but some “friendly banter” with my Cousin this morning has PISSED ME RIGHT OFF cos he’s a blue and what he said was true.
HHOLH, tevez off the pitch has had a shitty 2 years – Being told he ain’t good enough for the Best Club in all the land, Contract disputes, depicted as a Greedy whore, depicted as a non english-speaking Cunt who wants out of england, Exposed as an unfaithful Cunt after affairs, unsavoury Beef with the coach and club, More contract disputes…. so how did he react? Did he fold up and cry?
DID HE FUCK. none of that personal shit stopped him banging the shit out of the goal did it? He’s on 49 in 69 since leaving United, and on 20 goals this year joint top with Berbatov. Call me a romantic but if we MUST have a cunt in the ranks, surely we want a Cunt thats good for something? One that makes his cuntish tendencies more bearable? That isn’t to say we backed the wrong horse either, cos turning it into a Tevez v Roo debate just lets Wayne off the hook.
Rooney was hailed Pele Blanco and among the best in the Worlds History Now and Forever Amen last year, walking on water to bring back the WC and all that bollocks but when the chips are down THIS year he’s been a useless, gutless, pathetic Cunt. Tevez on the other hand, cunt tho he may be, has been up against it since joining City, but he’s still on 49 goals in 69 games, I believe thats called “Bottle”. he’s basically carrying that team, he’s always most likely to score for them, and look where they’ll be if they nick points against us on Saturday?
So King Rooney of England, FFS grow a BACKBONE and cut out all the woe is me shit!
Christ, anybody would think you was a fucking Scouser!
Boo Hoo im Wayne Rooney and im not in form because the world knows im a Cunt. Yeah? Well join the fucking Club mate we’re runing out of Cotton Wool. MAN UP. You got the chance to redeem yourself on Saturday, you got the talent, you always did, im just not sure you got the bottle anymore, we’ll soon find out. Just don’t embarrass the Club or yourself any further. CUT OUT THE WOE IS ME SHIT AND ENJOY YOUR FOOTBALL AT UNITED WHILE YOU CAN.
what did i say about the city trolls being the dumbest,fucking user name is a contradiction
rafael imo is the most exciting prospect in years and i know his enthusiam and the way he gets stuck in causes conniption fits but i really want him to give that argie cunt a good one.
Outstanding post Paul Parker.
Speaking of replacements, how about Andrea Pirlo for Paul Scholes as a short term measure? I know he’s 31 but he’s a deep lying playmaker like Scholesy and his contract is up in June
http://www.goal.com/en/news/10/italy/2011/02/09/2344880/barcelona-real-madrid-manchester-city-look-at-free-deal-for
the ability to shut everything bad out and function like nothngs wrong also shows psychopathic tendencies
Pirlo was a great player, but he looked well past his best, against United last season in Europe. Park done a job on him at OT, not for me.
Top post by Paul Parker.
Heard that Tevez is not in the squad to face Portugal, wonder how much playing time Nani will get tonight. Furthermore has Hernandez flown out to Mexico for their friendly? If he has than I doubt he will make the bench for Saturday which is very bad news.
Lastly I hope Rio makes the game and as I predicted it was a coy by SAF to prevent him playing for England tonight, here’s hoping
think the fact milan has put contract negotiations on the backburner says it all.
smartalex – normally I got somthing to say in return to my cousin but….? I was saying Rooney needs time, blah blah, he was like look Pal, Waynes had one bad summer and look at him, shadow of his former self. Tevez went gone through the same shit but he’s playing his best football right now. Can’t really argue with that… 49 in 69? I hope Rooney starts and shows some bottle, but thats the heart talking. mind says he’s washed up at United and needs to do a Torres. BUT I’d love to see him grab a brace and cut the woe is me shit. Might start to repair the damage he’s done…
lol @ wayne, well its better to be a ‘reliable pyscho’ than a ‘good for nothing pussy’ aye?
nah jokes aside, Rooney needs to show more mental strength. He’s not injured and I don’t buy the he’s not fit shit either. He’s had loads of playing time, his problem is upstairs, and you can’t work on that in the Gym, you either got it (Bottle) or you don’t. For players, its shitty moments like now that really define their career. We’ll all know what Rooneys made of by Summer. Heart says he’ll come good, Mind says he’ll never be the same in a United shirt. Can’t wait for Saturday.
Paul Parker – Deep breaths mate lol. Great post.
I have found out even though my like for Rooney made me a Man Udt fan when I first started watching the BEPL THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!!!!!!!!. Now I know I’m a Man Utd fan more then a Rooney fan. Anyone can have an injury followed by a dip in play. Teves on the field is golden a world class player. Rooney’s man whore thing got to me. Before the ankle turn on the same play BM got that late goal he has not been the same. I still want Rooney on my team over Teves.
MAN UTD 4 POINTS UP WITH ROONEY A SHADOW OF HIMSELF HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
KICK CHITY ASS. VIDIC AND RIO TO RULE!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON ROONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is a great read.
Fifthcolumnblue – You cunt. Next time you see Tevez, tell him to keep away from the kettle.
@Paul Parker agree mate who cares if rooney is dismembering people in his spare time aslong as he scores goals.lol
now correct me if i’m wrong but i haven’t seen one article from a utd player taliking about the derby but tons from city,kolo toure flapping about how utds confidence will be wobbly after the wovles defeat.i’d need costas with the actual facts but i know utd’s bounce back rate after a defeat is phenomenal,the argie cunt talking shit as usual.anyone else watch ufc the gobby fuckers normally get their heads kicked in,its a sign of fear.
Rooney will score more goals as the season goes on. He needs this year to end. Have some time off and come back to a Man Udt team that will have turnover of the first team squad from 5 to as many as 10 players?!?! Gary already gone. He will have a 30+ goal total next year with Little Pea coming on in more offten.
Talk is cheap. All these bitters talking, are doing Fergies team talk for him.
Any one know if Argentina v Portugal is on TV tonight?
One of you fuckers must know! = )
Cheers
Paul Parker
Rooney is ashamed. If he puts the sword to city in a heartfelt performance, his relationship with the fans will have something to cling to, and build on. He has always fed on the torrent of love and passion that was a 2-way street. Right now, there is no flow. Songs maybe; empowerment, clearly not. This is the game to shine, in fact blaze. The fire in the fans will instantly ignite. Of course, no flames in the morning after, only the embers, for him to rekindle.
The sad truth though, is that while we dream of Wayne’s return to goals: tevez never left.
(I despise tevez! but that’s another matter.)
To the tune of hi ho silver lining
Raphael da silva’s fouled him,
Or is it fabio.
Just which twin will get a booking,
Well I just don’t know
Fabio da silva’s fouled him,
Or is it raphael.
Just which twin will get a booking,
You can never tell.
Its not that obvious
Denis Law on this derby.
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6742718,00.html
willierednut – he got stick off me last season for obv reason, but this year im getting it in the neck and im not gonna argue with him for the sake of arguing, he’d enjoy that, I’ll just admit its true, you’d think Rooney had a fucking leg amputated over the summer.
Why the long face? A bit of strife at home and in the press? Like Scott said its almost like he’s thinking about Brand Rooney and its true we’ve seen other PL players put in solid performances with divorce papers and crown court cases hanging over their head. Look at that Grade A cunt Barton, a Cunt amongst Cunts, he still has a playing career and puts in solid performances HHOLH. Rooney needs to sort it out with the self-importance shit, he ain’t been important at top level for approaching 12 months. Tevez can clearly balance being a cunt and a great player, he feeds off the hate, but Rooney just looks defeated and disinterested.
Still, im hoping to see the loutish Granny shagging Ref abusing Scouse rascal of old smash the shit out the goal on Saturday…. If your gonna be a cunt rooney, BE A CUNT.
@Paul Parker there you go again using psychos as examples.lol
@ paul parker
HHOLH ?
@wayne – we rarely get into press debates before ‘big but not quite life or death’ matches.
This ones for the fans and supporters, Alec is more thinking CL imo. Thats not to underetimate but they NEED to talk it up mate, this is their moment in the sun. Im just hoping Berbatov got a good rest after Wolves, and that Scholes or Anderson starts cos we’ll need something clever from the middle, otherwise we might have to rely on Nani to pull off something special, again. Icing on top would be a Rooney Renaissance but hey…..
- Hate Him Or Love Him
smartalex, mate I agree he IS ashamed, but theres a time when being ashamed becomes selfish, because instead of making amends rebuilding bridges holding ice packs over slapped faces your doing fuck all – except milling around looking sorry for yourself. Rooney needs to stop being ashamed and just put the fucking ball in the back of the net – In that order not the otherway around – if he doesn’t play with his all on Saturday I can’t see a way back for him at UNITED, but if he does play like a man possessed I think we’ll go to achieve great things this year and all will be forgiven. Its his choice, but the time to be ashamed has passed, its time to man up now.
@reDalerT … question for you: would you say that Evans mistake in marking up was (a) typical of the guy, or (b) no, not a common mistake that he makes?
If the answer is (a), then there are two responses: first, he’s obviously useless and SAF should sell him (but clearly SAF doesn’t agree, and I’ll take his opinion over yours any day), and secondly, in the meantime, yes, I would expect players of the experience of Vidic and VDS to understand the weaknesses of those around them and take some action to prevent them. Like: “Hey up, Jonny, make sure you stick with that guy when he moves.”
I mean, if the guy has a known weakness in his marking (which is a pretty fundamental of any central defender), then I would expect them to know about it, and yes, as senior players (and particularly in defense) I would expect them to act on it, especially at set plays. That doesn’t mean they have to hold him by the hand, to quote your bit of cheap sarcasm. But it also doesn’t mean that they should do nothing about it either, if they already know the guy has a problem with marking.
And if the answer is (b), then it was a one-off screw-up, and he’ll learn from it.
See, I agree that Evans hasn’t been performing well. And sure, you can come back and say that’s the under-fucking-statement of the year, or whatever you want to say. But I am getting sick and tired of people just dumping on our players all the time. Some of them deserve criticism — in fact, most of them deserve criticism at least some of the time (no-one’s perfect). I’m just trying to make it a little more constructive than just bagging a guy and yelling “HE’S A USELESS CUNT — SELL THE BASTARD” at the top of my lungs (not that you have done that, but you won’t have to look far to find others here who have said it, about Evans or whoever).
My starting position, in any discussion about the merits of any of our players (even Rooney), is that their “worth” is decided by SAF. If SAF decides a player is a good enough footballer to be in the squad, then that means something. And if he decides, for whatever reason, that it isn’t working out, then he’ll sell him (and in the meantime, while waiting for the next transfer window, will try to avoid playing him).
If your gonna be a cunt, BE A CUNT.
If your gonna be a cunt, BE A CUNT.
If your gonna be a cunt, If your gonna be a cunt,
If your gonna be a cunt, BE A CUNT.
Just found out that Hernandez was named in the Mexico squad……… Trying to find out whether or not he flew out………..
…breaking news…
….won’t be long now, folks…
…hold your horses…
…we seem to have lost our roving reporter, stay tuned.
Pmsl @ SmartAlex, its got a ring to it mate!
the Pro Mubarak lot got to Cedars
StatesideAussie
‘Father forgive them for they know not what they say’ springs to mind. (In fact all they talk is SHIT)
I have read so much drivel on here about our players and how wrong SAF is in either playing them or merely keeping them in the squad…… It use to sicken me, now I simply ignore it and scroll down to the next sensible post. Being critical of the team or individual players is our right as supporters BUT to just come on here after a poor result and dish out insults and vile is stupid and pathetic
Looking for Cedars?
@PaulParker … I’m not convinced that Rooney’s poor form is the result of him not trying, or not manning up. I’m starting to wonder that maybe it’s just the opposite: that he’s thinking about it too much, and trying too hard to turn it around. I don’t have any basis for believing that, but I’ve seen it before with sportsmen. Sometimes, the answer is for them to relax a little, let their instincts take over, but that’s bloody hard to do when you can’t think of anything else except that it’s not working. Often, in those cases, eventually something unexpected happens that snaps them out of it … some incident or event that happens so quickly they don’t have time to think about it, they just find themselves doing it. And then after that, having had a bit of momentary success, they do start to relax and things turn good again (it’s what people refer to as “confidence”, but I seriously think it’s more about relaxing and trying hard not to think too much … because it’s the conscious thought process that gets in the way). I am sort of hoping that Rooney’s first goal against Villa might have been one of those incidents: that long ball forward, no time to think, just run onto it, ball bounces a bit higher than you would like, just boot it, fuck, it went in…
@ Zibbie, agreed mate, I’d want Rooney over Tevez as well, but only the unashamed Rooney, not this sorry cunt we got now. A player like Ronaldo will talk shit about a club not matching his ambition before jogging out the tunnel and scoring a hatrick. All is forgiven. Rooney needs to get his scoring boots back on, because thanks to the position he’s put himself in listening to Stretford, questioning the Manager and his Team mates has fucked him over in the long run. He’s done it to himself, the best thing to do is leave OR do what we all want him to do, which is grow a fucking set and score on Saturday.
Blimey I just went for a piss! lol
Stay tuned for updates though!
Has he returned yet?
Taking a leek, staring CedarsDevil?
@Cedars … yeah, you are probably right, I should just ignore them. On the other hand, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7lOMUqGG5M Only saw this there but still very very funny! Even Sky don’t like Man Shitty! ha
Ok, I failed….. No clue where on earth Hernandez is
Paul Parker – he fucked up get over it, we still do not know what is going on with rooney behind closed doors. I really do think he is have personal problems, to be honest some things he said are true about the lack of transfer activity in the united squad. Has it has been plain to see the united engine room is well overdue of surgery, a monkeys uncle could see the united midfield has gone stale the past 2 years, the likes of carrick and hargreaves the cycle ended last year. It is like a doctor at a hospital, when he sees his hopital not being updated with new equipment, that DR will question the infrastructure of the hospital,
PPL want everyone to get behind the team, well Scott puts a rooney debate up and everyone sees rooney has the new hitler. Allot of fans disappointed me, always thought you get behind every player even some players who have been given stick berbs fletcher anderson nani all have been given backing, when rooney comes up who is backing the player. Humans make mistakes big or small, that is what life is a pile up or a couple of mistakes everyone has worn the badge
well he is still having major personal problems since march that will effect your work no matter who it is
He needs to snap out of it asap. United can’t be carrying any players in this run in.
@Paul Parker 14:32
Slam on post mate. Awestruck!
But truth be told, against the bitters, I take WR10 and Berba over the other options up front.
The lad needs to STREP UP A NOTCH!.
JAYSUS WEPT
@ StatesideAussie – Alright mate, that was my opinion too till being wound up this morning! I agree Rooney does need to chill the fuck out somewhere. Personally I wanted Hernandez to start more so he could do that. Since the shit hit the fan he’s been expected to match his own words. I’d have rather he sat out the last 3 games for Hernandez and then returned for this one fresh, still, he looks a cert to start so lets see what transpires.
Also mate, when im asking him to man up and stop the woe is me shit, im basically asking him to stop worrying about shit he can’t change. Yeah he’s had his moments but overal Rooneys been negative in his play this season, and the question he needs to answer is what is there to be so negative about? WE KNOW HE ASKED TO LEAVE, but right now he’s at Manchester United, he’s on the verge of a potential record breaking title, he’s got European football coming up, he’s under the greatest manager to do it.
IMO Rooney needs nothing more than to put all the woes and guilts and feelings of shame behind him and move on, preferably with us or elsewhere if need be. I agree, I don’t think he’s put all this behind him yet, I think he’s still thinking about it too much. Prob is until he accepts it and Moves On he won’t be the same player. We’ll soon see what his mental strength is like.
FITB
Don’t think anyone on this thread Paul Parker included is slagging Rooney off, more like urging him to hit top gear and show us what he really can do
He’s back again. Hello Cedars?
@PaulParker … yeah, I get where you’re coming from. No doubt his form is a major concern. One way or the other, he’s got to find a way to get over it. I’ve also found myself wondering whether SAF has continued to play Rooney because he believes Rooney will come right in the end (SAF has publicly noted Rooney’s history of scoring in bursts), but sooner or later, if it doesn’t work, then it doesn’t work. Hernandez can’t be denied forever. I just hope that whatever he does, SAF doesn’t decide to play Rooney up-front by himself when we get back into the CL. Or, if he does, that it works quick smart. Like many others, I’m struggling to understand why he’s playing ahead of Chicharito, but I’d find it really tough to accept him playing ahead of Berba as well.
@ FITB – alright mate?
thats the thing, by saying what im saying, for me, I am supporting Wayne Rooney. Im not asking for him to be sold, if he went I’d understand – HES ALREADY TRIED ONCE – all im saying is its kinda embarrassing to keep making excuses for why he isn’t performing when players go through shit all the time and still perform. We’ve seen Wayne do it after Wink-Gate but the’s hurt his own Club this time and he’s feeling shit about it. Like I said to StatesideAussie, I just want him to accept he fucked up and get back to playing football. Its like women mate, THE SUPPORTERS WANT TO FORGIVE HIM, but he’s too busy feeling sorry for himself and in a way thats selfish. He needs to stop thinking and start scoring.
CedarsDevil – everyone away from home is playing poorly that is where we the real horror shows lie, the only guys having good seasons away from home is VDS rafeal ferdinand vidic evra and at times nani and berbs, but even nani and berbs never really stamp their dominance on games away from home. I agree rooney is playing awful but these problems for rooney mentally are not going away. Doubts knaw at him, the world cup, the injury’s, the personal life that is a hell of allot to take on, half of it is his fault but a pre-season makes a huge difference to player’s performance levels.
Hi Willie?
I failed in locating Little Pea!
Seriously though I hope he has not flown out to Mexico otherwise we won’t have him for the derby
Givemefootball (not the first place I go for news with a shred of credibility)
Is saying Valencia is ahead of schedule. Great news but I do hope they don’t rush the boy.
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/16m-wing-wizard-poised-for-sensational-united-retu
Also,
Trapatoni is saying Gibbo just needs games as well. Manager has alot to sort out.
Paul Parker – alright mate.Glad you do not but the way some fans think does my head in lets get rid of him who to, and united aint gonna strengthen title rivals/. I do not want to be the one sticking up for him no matter what he has done because I know he did wrong but the boss has faith in rooney especially after how he has turned berbs united career around so I think rooney will be the same. But sometimes fans gotta look at the bigger picture and realise rooney is having a bad time it wont go away fast lets support the guy because united need rooney in the long term. I have said this again and again. I do not trust latin players like chico because one way or another they all go to spain. berbs is coming to his 30s and he cannot play every game the legs will slow down, welbeck and macheda we do not know if they are coming or going. So rooney will be needed and next season he will be fully back, add the fact he is on a long term deal so he is this for the long haul
But say rooney is sold in the summer and he has a monster season next year, add chico and even berbs may have a second season struggle like ronnie had in 2005. united has a club if rooney was sold on the cheap are gonna like complete tits, especially after he is tied down in a long term deal. Heck PPL still say ronaldo was sold cheaply
willierednut – agreed mate, we can’t carry anybody, not with Owen the Professional on the bench alongside Hernandez the Kid.
cedars – exactly mate, im really not slagging him off, and im not saying Tevez is a better player either, I was ‘gutted’ just like everybody else hearing the news then seeing Alec in that press conference, But now I just want him to forgive himself and enjoy his football. He’s not the first cunt and won’t be the last. he needs to understand that and stop beating himself up. Rooney should be positive from now on, he’s fit, he’s got the Managers faith, his own supporters still cheer when they’d be justified to boo him… life is good. He’s gotta relax and start playing like he loves every minute of it, hopefully starting kickoff on Saturday.
FletchTHEMAN, I’ll agree with that mate I wouldn’t want anybody but Berbatov and Rooney starting on Saturday. Alec was understandably trying to get Rooney to click before City but it hasn’t happened. I’d have rather Hernandez play leading up to this game then seen Rooney let off the leaash but what do i know! Just hoping Rio is back and either Scholes or Anderson starts, preferably both.
Stateside Aussie – Who knows the team we’ll go to france with, been thinking about that myself. Hernandez does deserve a look in, but again, Its hard to have a fit Rooney on the bench and NOT play him. Hernandez could have done more for us this season against less dangerous teams. For me he should have started at Wolves, esp if Rooney was playing tonight, but what do i know. Can’t wait for CL tho!
Paul Parker – sorry about the missunderstanding, ROM posts from loads of fans has almost become the same where its just who takes the next punch
FITB
It has become fairly easy on here to differentiate between trolls and sensible fans mate….. Those who just appear here, throw about vile trash at our players are NOT fans
@Cedars … according to what I’ve seen online, the Little Pea is starting for Mexico. The lineup hasn’t been revealed, but that’s what “everyone” is expecting. I haven’t seen anyone saying he’s not available.
Is Jack Wilshere the most over rated player in years, or what? Arsenal finally produce an English player, in donkey years and the media go fucking nuts!
StatesideAussie
That is terrible and worrying news…. It means he will not even make the bench for Saturday. A player who could certainly have had an impact coming off the bench. Here is hoping Owen can have that impact and score a 99th minute winner to break the blue noses hearts
Willie, not only is he over rated but seems to be a bloody twat as well. Seems the new England team will be ‘built’ around him!
@cedars … right. I’m expecting the bitters to play their infamous 9-1-0 formation or whatever the fuck that was when we played at the wastelands earlier this season, anything to avoid defeat. I am really hoping we don’t start with a lone striker.
Hernandez will be on the bench.
Did I hear that right? Some gooner fan comparing Wilshere to Duncan Edwards on talksport. Deary me.
Hope you are right Willie
StatesideAussie
I hope we play with 2 up front as well. We should take the game to them. They will as you say play as defensive as possible and hope for a point. If we are able to control possession and wear them down then we should and will win the game
StateSide and Cedars,
According to ESPN Deportes, the spanish branch of ESPN, the Mexico – Bosnia Friendly is all about getting the european based lads back for a match. I expect Chicharito to play. that means he will only arrive back on Friday and is unlikely for a saturday noon time kickoff. The game kicks off at 8pm (timezone of the eastern USA). So the club won’t know the details of his performance and fitness until tomorrow at the earliest.
If you like a laugh, Check out TalkShites ideas of the best England fullbacks. Aparently, Ash Cole comes up for the most capped england fullback tomorrow. Currently on 86 caps.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/features/2011-02-09/cole-neville-pearce-and-armfield-englands-greatest-full-backs-chosen-talksport-readers
If my bifocals aren’t lying:
Tops is Stu Pierce #1
Red Nev at #3
Warren Barton (3Caps, ZIP wins) is actually on there as #6 ( must be misreading this!)
This must be the list that those lads can remember. Jimmy Armfield (Blackpool 86 caps) only rates at #4. Roger Byrne doesn’t make the list sadly as he only managed 33 caps.
Giles Oakley would tell you Jimmy Armfield was a great left back. These lists can be subjective though.
willierednut says:
Giles Oakley would tell you Jimmy Armfield was a great left back. These lists can be subjective though.
I was once listening to Jimmy Armfield on the radio recounting the time his Blackpool called him into the office to inform that Sir Matt had enquired about him, asking if he would be good enough for UTD, Armfield adked his manager what he told Sir Matt and the answer was something along the lines of “I told him what I’m telling you, if he works hard he might just be good enough for Blackpool” and with that he was told to get back to training and the subject was never raised again. On the one side cruel on the other side maybe good.
On another good defender, any goss on Rio, it doesn’t look good which means Fergie will leave it till the last possible moment.
Best RB in the league
Nani on signing for adidas-
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/adidas-inducts-nani-as-brand-ambassador/8115/
fergie is the boss says:16:23 post
golf clap. Spot On.
Golf clap? Zibbie dear.
The Golf Clap is where your fore skin comes off in your hand as you applaud.
Happens when the applause is the call.
Willie mate. You did indeed hear someone comparing the vastly over rated wilshire to duncan edwards on talkshit. That station hols no bounds. In employing keys and gray they really scrape the bottom of the barrel to employ every odious cunt they cam find.
Wilshire compared to Duncan Edwards is as probably the worst insult we could ever receive. I saw him as small kid but too young to appreciate how good he was. Those older than me that did see him (both United and City fans) spoke of a boy in a mans body with more talent than anyone of the day even at 21. Commited, could strike a ball with either foot, could play literally anywhere on the park but would have been the equivalent of a modern day box to box midfielder -likely would have dropped back to defence in his later years.
Sir Bobby comments “he was the only player i felt inferior to” – that in itself is a statement because no one, not even even Best, Pele or Beckenbauer received that accolade.
Anyway on to Saturday – hear that Rio will not start. So reckon Smalling will. Just hope to God he has his head on straight and keeps his concentration.
Responding to other posts as to the need to give Evans and Smalling time – SAF will give them that. I ust hope they start looking like United players sooner rather than later. Of the two Smalling looks like he will make it – Evans does seem to have lost a bit of confidence. Often one really goo game will do it and if Evans does play then let this be it.
Interesting comment from Trappatoni wrt Gibson — saying basically he has it but does get enough time on the field and needs to leave United same can be said for Evans and Smalling
Beat the blue bastards Saturday
UNITED 194 – 2011
Fuck me – just read the article noted by FletchTHEMAN. Greatest Full Backs
After Gary Nev the best English full back I ever saw was Ray Wilson – probably one of the only full backs who kept Bestie quiet. Played in the 66 final with a concussion! Also an Oldham lad.
Warren Barton? Thank God I live here and do not have to listen to that shit.
Gnev at right back against City would have been sweet. Motivation to not loose beats youth and pace every day in the week. Gnev is all about motivation and noone near him would ever consider looing against the wasteland pack.
Raf can fill the vacum creat by Nev.
@triggerhappy … nah – Rafael looks pretty bloody motivated and fired up to me. In fact, one of my concerns about saturday’s match is that the bitters (especially the poisonous dwarf tevez) might wind up on purpose just to get him sent off … SAF and Vidic and others are going to have to prepare the lad for that possibility and monitor it carefully…