Gary Neville has suggested that his England career was a bit of a waste of time because of the lack of success they had.
After winning eight Premier League titles, one European Cup, three FA Cups and two League Cups with United, he feels a void left by the failure with England.
“The fact of the matter is that when you play 85 times and in five major tournaments, and you don’t get past the semi-final or win a tournament – maybe ‘waste of time’ is too strong – but if I played for Manchester United for 15 or 20 years and did not win a trophy, I’d say that was a waste of time,” he said. “The expectation that Sir Alex Ferguson puts in at Old Trafford is that it’s not acceptable not to win. To go through that career with United and win trophies consistently, and then have this big void which is England – that to me is like I’ve wasted an opportunity. That’s probably a better phrase to use.”
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Underacheivers and abused by fans. Why would you want to play for a national team in those
circumstances.
United > Ingerlund and thats a fact.
I’m sure Gary and the other English lads love their country as much, but as a fan I wish they never play for England ever again. Just sit back and win trophies with United.
Of topic but watch these fans httJhkRgJmmOhAp://youtu.be/
Serving some ungrateful cunts, yeah that’s a waste of time
Based on what he achieved with England… that probably true.
Have nani played his last game in a united shirt, that’s still a mystery although hamstrings don’t always keep you out of the game for more than 5 weeks, just the right timing till the winter transfers window reopens. Is that a coincidence
Food for thoughts
Picking poor tactics with poor players, picking average tactically inept managers, arrogance, thinking passion only will win you the biggest tournaments, not picking the right players to fit a system, piling abuse on your most important player (rooney) lack of patience and expecting instant glory, wasting money on glamorous stadium (which makes it comfortable for opposition teams), wasting time building centre for excellence with no clear vision, using barbarians for coaches, crumbling when the pressure rises on the pitch, favouring technically awful players because they track back and “throw themselves about”, unrealistic expectation of trying to win every tournament, I could go on and on but these are all a small part of the issue. Neville,knows what he meant, it was a complete waste of time.
Stating the obvious seems to be the theme of the day
i was thinking the same , a few hours ago, personally i believe he has signed a deal with another club 8 weeks out for a hamstring seems excessive. even with uniteds ” amazing ” medical team. he is such a good player and would hate to seem him leave. id have a poor nani over a poor young anyday!. but with the way the team is going ( narrow) and nanis age , and with glazers looking to take any money they can i wouldnt be too suprised if they cashed in on him . would be dissapointed if he was sold for less than 20 mill.
@proverb ^
samuel – united WE stand
O really
Hodgson, Hoddle, Keegan, Venables, Sven all poor managers are they really lets look at their acchievements. A few Swedish league titles and a couple of bough Italian ones. Oh hang on Keegan was second, venables says things smart in mockney in front of cameras.
Tactics long ball tactics or pass to Stevie ME no matter what has taken players of Liverpool ilk to quarter finals in a few championships, better than he could have ever dreamed.
The players.
Emile Heskey 62 caps
Gareth Southgate 57
Joe Cole 56
David James 53
Gareth Barry 50
………………………………………………..
Sorry it started as a pisstake and a complete agreeance with you my friend in how shit England and the selections have been. Ive looked at the list and I just cant go on = too depressing.
Thanks for that arsehole now I need a drink.
The theory of Nani already signing for another club makes no sense,why keep it a secret?what difference would it make?.Even if everyone wanted to keep it a big secret he’s still a Utd player so with injuries to Kagawa and Tony V, Young out of form Utd need him and would be playing him
LOL Nani has NOT signed for another club. He really IS injured. Surely Fergie has seen the performances that Ashley Young is putting in. Surely he is seeing the detrimental effects of lack of width in the team’s play. There has been no time this season when we need Nani more than now. The man wants to stay at United too. It would be lunacy to sell Nani even after all this.
Very Happy that Vidic is returning though. Rio to the bench for me. Start Vida and Evans. Still waiting for Kagawa’s return. Lord knows when he’s coming back cuz he’s been out for donkey years now even though they said it was going to be three weeks. SMH
As for the England thing. It’s ALWAYS been a waste of time playing for England. I mean who would love to play for a nation where the fans don’t even respect you no matter what you do, Club loyalties are still fierce in the national team set up, Put under undue pressure by fat media journalists who can’t kick a ball 2 meters. England’s football team set up has been a recipe for disaster for a while now and If I was raheem sterling and Wiflried Zaha, I would run as fast as I can from that mess and play for their other countries. Same thing with Welbeck.
@wayne
If something is in place, why on earth would they play him? Any injury could potentially jeopardise the whole deal.
@Goat Peticoat
Agree with most of what you say but can’t agree with Venable being a poor manager for England. Venables battered Holland and ran Germany very close in a major tournament. England should have won that semi final.
Nani last played on November 7. You’d have to be Michael Owen to miss 2 months with a hamstring injury. I hope I am wrong, but there’s probably more to this.
Kanchelskis if something was in place it would have leaked already and like I said if its true why keep it a secret if the club isn’t playing him makes no difference,secondly Utd aren’t deep enough to sell Nani unless the club also has a guarantee in bringing someone else in
The whole conspiracy theory is something out of dentons playbook,looking forward to De Rossi joining in January,you?
It’s crazy, how suddenly people have started to recognise Nani’s talent again, when our other wingers have dipped form, Nani seems exellent. Crazy people.
I want to put this post here also,
Imagine yourself In Nanis place.
You have played since being 19 years old for United, helped them win tittles, from the CL to the league, and you have flourished since that Arsenal game, okey you have had some ups and downs, when that scouse Carragher injured you, but that has not effected your assists and goals.
And you earn 100 000 a week which is a lot, btw I don’t know how much he earns.
Then the gaffer decides to buy Ashley Young, which is great and all, cause he contributed well in his first year, but let’s stick in Nanis mind. Gaffer buys Young, and when he does that, you agent comes and tells you:
Mr.Luis, United have bought Ashley Young, and you will face competition. And of course, as a confident lad, you will answer, that’s good, but not a problem. And as a pro and because football is your work, you start asking him about Young’s wage.
And your agent replies: Mr.Luis his wage is 130 000 a week (I suppose?) and they bought him nearly 17 million. Then you would be saying to your agent, don’t be joking with me, and ask him:
“How much did I earn? Agent: 90 000-100 000K. Then after the incident, you would be chatting with your agent and being hopeful, for everything you have done, that the gaffer understand if you ask more, so you decide with your agent to start asking more, cause you think, a player with a status of Aston Villa, and no Champions League football can not earn more than you.
And the rest is history. As a all time United supporter, even though I am a supporter, and would have played for United, I would be going crazy about that.
Who would stay anymore, if you are not wanted?
Just a fact. Like it or not.
It’s a bit crazy to not recognise a players attribute, but then this is SAF’s way to be getting players off the team, I guess?
peace.
Anyway depending on the severity some hamstring injuries need surgery and can take up to 3 months to repair
Hamstrings are very tricky if not treated right just pull or tear again
WeAreUnited my opinion about Nani hasn’t changed he’s had one great season and his form has been piss poor for over a year.Don’t like his attitude and his pouting,making veiled threats and wanting to go public with club issues through the press piss me off.His flashes of brilliance doesn’t out weigh the regular string of poor games and I think a lot of Reds overrated him because he just can’t be trusted and doesn’t deliver on a consistent basis
No shit Gary – and without wanting to sound Argentinian – lets see if theres any improvement now he’s milling around the dugout / Sky studios. The problem with the national side isn’t rocket science. England just need to pick the best players and stop trying to create “heros” out of lads like Carrol, who still gets games despite being so far down the English Striker pecking order its unreal.
Just bring in a manager who will stand by the best team, instead of bowing to pressure to select “certain” players. Its like the Squad is selected with the team photo in mind.
The amount of new talent at England’s disposal right now is even greater than 10 years ago. In every single position there are more and more young English lads breaking through, but the Squad selection is uninspired. I don’t blame certain lads for considering/deciding to play for other countries – at least they’ll get games instead of a pat on the head in a friendly while poorer players get the nod in tournaments.
I guarantee the team that goes to Brazil WILL NOT be selected on merit, and better players will either be left home or sat on the bench. Good luck with all that mate! England ain’t winning shit until the WC is held in England again. That way the FA can sabotage better teams like Portugal before England play them. It worked like a charm in 1966 lest we forget.
Long and short of it – Ingurlund are so pathetic its unreal, and the saddest part is this is nothing to do with a lack of ability in England, just a lack of bottle at the top to let the national team pick itself based on natural ability.
The number of caps given to – Les Ferdinand (17 caps despite over 100 EPL goals) King Cole (15 caps despite over 100 EPL goals) and Ian Wright (30 odd caps despite over 100 EPL goals) – tells you everything you need to know, especially when Hesky played more England games than those three strikers COMBINED, and lads like Gerrard are carried towards 100 caps like its an expected privilege.
Thats why Ingurlund win fuck all. CARROLL IS ALREADY 7 GAMES AWAY FROM HAVING MORE CAPS THAN LES FERDINAND AND ANDY COLE?????? Hahaha, incredible.
So take your hats off to Brazil fellas.
Despite the deep societal problems over there, over the years they’ve ALWAYS selected players on merit, and thats why they have 5 Stars on their chest and play in a style that became the envy of Europe and the blueprint for “total-football”.
This is what it feels like to be Ingurlund – self-deluded and ignorant.
Where in hell did nani sustain his hamstring injury, cause the last time I saw he wasn’t injured
Maybe being seated on the arse didn’t help his fitness.
He’s a fit boy that one
Proverb against Braga
Oh kay, didn’t watch that game…
But thanks for the headsup @wayne appreciated
AlphaRS
I used to think that about Venables, I truely did but then I saw every manager after him get the odd surprising victory against a top team, I mean Hodgson a win and a knockout against Italy. Sven a 5-1 whacking of Germany. They all had the surprise victory, they all had the quarter final loss, often due to penalties so I looked and saw Venables history was no different OTHER than the fact it was played at home so the occassion has clouded our judgement. Still a bunch of underachieving wasters no matter how one looks at things.
It should also be noted that Venables started the England career of Southgate. He refused to play Beckham, Scholes and Fowler despite their obvious success at club level prefering to play old journeymen like Platt Beardsley Gascoigne Anderton Batty and BArnes instead. He didnt care about Phil Neville despite his playing for United on the left nd right even ousting Gary Neville in the early years at United. Instead favouring LeSaux and MArk Wright.
Sorry to me Venables was a man who had no vision of the future, could never change tactics, relied on cockney knees up muva brarn lets have a party team spirit and of course like all England managers before and afetr him “jobs for the boys”.
Fuck me, this is way off topic and not football related soo please scroll past it, if you don’t bother you can take a look in. But no discussion regarding it… Just for fun and will never post such football unrelated essays.
“‘ My GirlFriend and I had been dating for over a year and so we decided to get married. There was only one little thing bothering me, her beautiful younger sister. My prospective 21 years old sister in law, always wore short mini skirts, and often times was Bra-Less. She Would regularly Bend down when she was near me, and I always got more than a nice view.
One day her little sis called and asked me to come over to check the wedding invitations.
She was alone when I arrived and she whispered to me that she has feelings and desires for me that she couldn’t overcome.
She told me that she wanted me just once before I get married and commit my life to her sister.
Well, I was in total shock and couldn’t say a word.
She said, ‘ I am going upstairs to my room, and if you want one last wild fling just come up and get me.
I was stunned and frozen in shock as I watched her Go upstairs.
I stood there for a moment, then I turned and headed straight to the front door.
I opened the door, then headed straight towards my car.
Loo and behold, my future family were standing outside, all clapping hands!
With tears in his eyes, My father-in-law hugged me and said, ” We are very happy that you’ve passed our little test, We couldn’t ask for a better man for our Daughter-Welcome to the family!”
I smiled and heaved a sigh of relief because..
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.
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I was actually heading to my car to get my condoms.”
Proverb
Soft sod, condoms indeed, lol.
@ proverb
Funny shit mate and fucking weird if true
NOVEMBER 30, 2012 AT 18:07
Goat Peticoat says:
“Proverb
Soft sod, condoms indeed, lol.”
Goat you nut, told you to save the comments
You the kind who would shag without the sod condoms lol
Same applies for you @
Same applies for you @ididnotzeeit
@ Proverb
Spot on lad…she’d have never made it upsatirs
Proverb – what a twist to the tale, one of the,funniest things i’ve ever read on here.
Even chuck norris wouldn’t give it up
What a lucky bastard, me self would get found out as mine always lingers on me, no ways I’d surrender it, actually would’ve asked for it myself before she could confess
You got to wonder what kind of father in-law uses his younger daughter to tease the older one’s soon to be groom. Ha
I find it fucking weird
NOVEMBER 30, 2012 AT 20:00
samuel – united WE stand says:
“Proverb – what a twist to the tale, one of
the,funniest things i’ve ever read on here.”
Haha, me laughed my ass off when I first read it mate. Cheers!.
@wayne there must be a reason for you think that way, I don’t fault you my bud.
We all know kags can’t speak english to save his family right, so he
prepares answers in advance for interviews after a
match !!
*one postmatch interview *
Reporter : Kagawa , its fantastic, Your wife is pregnant.
Kagawa : ya, all credit goes to my team. Everyone
worked hard for it, specially Ryan Giggs . It was a tight
situation when he came in, his performance was really
fantastic with Scholes in the middle. Also the crowd
gathered to watch his work, our coach also enjoyed it,
they all worked hard,day & night… Special thanks for
Carrick for finding Space from impossibly tight angles .
It wouldn’t be possible Without him.
@proverb 18:03. hahaha. i laughed my ass of to that. nice 1 lol.
@Proverb,
very funny hahaha, veryvery funny, didn’t expected that at all hahah
“With Robin coming, without doubt he is an up-front player,” explained Sir Alex. “There is no question about that. He has experience and now our players are starting to realise how good he is. Hopefully that understanding gets better. There were some games where the way we kept possession was middle to wide, to middle to wide, without using the frontal area. We are getting more aware of the runs he’s making and his movement up front.”
FINALLY realising his strenghts, I would have done it in a couple of days, crazy folks
Let’s hope they realise Kagawa also and his ability.
highest assisters in the premier league. Found this on forum.
Firstly, I don’t get it, how the magicisan of the passers, Scholesy has not that many assists as I thought. Also you “inconsistent” Nani is 10th. Not bad.
We have 8 United players there, but if we leave, RVP out and Young out, then 6 United players. I left them out, cause they haven’t played that many seasons for us.
1 Ryan Giggs 126
2 Frank Lampard 89
3 Thierry Henry 80
4 Steven Gerrard 78
5 Francesc Fabregas 71
6 Wayne Rooney 70
7 Didier Drogba 55
8 Dennis Bergkamp 49
9 Morten Gamst Pedersen 48
10 Nani 48
11 Robin van Persie 46
12 Cristiano Ronaldo 46
13 Paul Scholes 45
14 David Beckham 44
15 Nolberto Solano 42
16 Aaron Lennon 40
17 Mikel Arteta 40
18 Ashley Young 39
19 Robert Pires 38
20 Gareth Barry 38
Italian teams have begun cost-cutting measures. Look at the 2 Milan teams. Getting rid of players on massive wages. Let the Arabs and Russians continue to spend big and then keep them out of the Champions League.
Fuck all of you in the RoM fantasy football league. Plastic fans that never chat just take take take and never give. Ive left the fantasy football game and seeling my entire team at a cut price. All my players are for sale at 0.1m so get yourselves a bargain. This should destroy all future bargaining powers and seriously devalue teams and ruin it for the lot of you whether you buy any of my players or decide to buy or not.
The worst fantasy football league Ive ever had the missfortune to be involved in and I will join a scouse league next year as atleast they dont have 649million plastic Africans and Asians leeching our culture and offering fuck all in return. Bolox to you all.
@ goat. going to a scouse league?!! . DAMN ITS BAD. ( im not in the fantasy league so i dont know what happend, but if it got you thinking of going to the scouse fantasy league it must be bad)
Is it just crazy wishful thinking that we will be play the same lineup 2 games in a row?
Although would prefer DDG in net.
dasilvatwins
bad, jesus f christ, they hadnt updated in 3 weeks, refused to open the transfer window which was also the team picking window. Couldnt even pick the team for the following week. No one got any points. Generally a complete waste of time and totally shit. I hate scousers like the next man with their 1 million philosophers but atleast they talk, atleast they care about football, atleast they care about their team despite being shafted by a long line of owners. Unfortunately the RoM fantasy league was jumped upon by a 100+ nobodies with no bloody interest in playing the game with fellow fans. The same wankers that buy a fake shirt abroad and leech everything Sir Alex has tried to acchieve whilst giving fuck all back.
Hell shit I might put a few peoples backs up on here sometimes, sometimes I speak sense and other times I make people laugh but I put my heart and soul into it. I give a bit of myself to my fellow fan. Scousers do much the same.
Funny thing is Ive been banned from logging on to the fantasy league already. They do fuck all to make it better, they do fuck all updating but as soon as one writes and angry message and tells them what a degenerate chicken in a basket bunch of fucking time wasters they are and that I hope they spent a good deal of money on starting the site, lost it and there fucking family starv over christmas – they find the motivation to ban me. Fucking gaytards.
why is my comment awaiting moderation. Because I speak the truth. Sorry for that. Please let me know what to think and Ill write it, your word is gospel
Im not too impressed I can tell you.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Who are you trying to kid @goal
Not long ago you expressed your unhappiness at the way ROM was unfolding and threatened to leave
I would not be surprised if you did the same on your fantasy league
Proverb
I try and launch a bit of passion. Im quite happy to be the brunt of peoples attacks as long as it gets people talking and up the hits on the blog. Once people get used to posting even if it is just to attack me then there is a chance they get used to the idea and make friends that they stay. Im big enough and ugly enough to take the abuse, its just a shame so few are even man enough to give it. Must be the modern gaytarddom.