Manchester United appointed Sir Alex Ferguson as manager during the 1985-1986 season after Ron Atkinson won just three of the opening 13 games, leaving us in our worst position since we were relegated in 1974.
Martin Edwards, who was the chairman of the club at the time, has reflected on the decision to give Ferguson the job, and the conversation our manager had with his former chairman at Aberdeen, Dick Donald.
“Our preferred choice was Alex Ferguson,” he said. “That was a unanimous decision of the board. Tottenham had approached him some time before and Arsenal had as well. When Alex spoke to Dick Donald about the last contract he signed, he said that he wanted a clause in that if a big club approached him he’d be allowed to leave. Dick Donald said ‘the only club you’re leaving here for is Manchester United’.”
Before Ferguson signed a contract with United, Donald offered Ferguson the ownership of Aberdeen, hoping this would convince him to stay, but Ferguson felt as though he had achieved everything he could with the Scottish club.
Ferguson was offered the Arsenal job in the summer before he took the United job but wanted to delay his answer as he was going to the World Cup as Scotland manager. Arsenal wanted a decision straight away though so Ferguson stayed with Aberdeen for a few months before taking the United job, whilst the North London club appointed George Graham.
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Just goes to show dithering can be costly,if Arsenal hadn’t been so impatient what Uniteds world would look like.
United and fergie destined to be great….
Ralph Waldo Emerson, the great American phhlosopher once had praised Plato’s impact on philosophy quoting him”Plato is philosnphy and philosophy is Plato” and I would genuinely consider that an inspiration and daringly say”Fergie is Manchester united, and Manchester united is Fergie”
I agree with this tanisha.
Bored week without us in action
Something to entertain ourselves, funny and true
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/10/12/3442260/-
It was pre-ordained. Manchester united and fergie are the right blend.
And that, as they say, was that! Well done to everyone at the club in 1985. Hard decisions and historical decisions.
United will be in a much stronger position when they appoint their next manager. But what will be the character of the club a year or two after?
I wager we will all be witness to the next 2 managers in short order after Fergie leaves. Hopefully the club manages these transitions with some kind of dignity/grace. It goes without saying that a lot of luck will be required!
Gods save us all…..
Wayne Rooney will channel Keano as he Captains England v San Marino.
Hoping there are no tunnel cams this time?!
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Oct/Wayne-Rooney-hopes-to-emulate-former-captain-Roy-Keane.aspx
“Manchester United appointed Sir Alex Ferguson as manager during the 1985-1986 season…”
Flat-out wrong. It was during the 1986/87 season.
D best way to replace fergie is by appointing big name coach like MOU to avoid sacking hiring. Forget all this former manutd players or people talking about Giggs and d rest. They are not good enough
6 November 1986, Spot on AntiScouser! Well spotted!
The next manager will have a tough job as he will be expected to take over the team with better results. I hope Sir Alex himself find a successor for United in the coming years.
Off topic, but I don’t like the way many of our so called fans get on DDG’s and Welbz’s back. The problem with these people is they like to compare and expect them to meet the expectation they themselves set for these players. At this rate, we’ll never be able to blood youngsters into the team because these youngsters are going to make mistakes and in no time at all these fans will be calling for their heads. People should give DDG and Welbz time and space to develop and mature.
Then there’s another category of people (maybe even overlap of the earlier group I mentioned) who come on here questioning Sir Alex for not blooding enough youngsters into the team; they even blame him for the departure of Fryers and Pogba. They come on here claiming this youngster or that youngster is ready because of how well he had played in the reserve, blah blah blah, like they’re a better judge of the progress of a youngster than Sir Alex. Then, when Sir Alex really bloods in one of these youngsters and he falls short of their high expectation, they jump on his back and condemn him and say he’s not United class, blah blah blah…idiots the log of you!!
Big Smile Fletch, Keano is Wazza’a mentor!!!!
FletchTHEMAN, Yup, 6th November 1986…and the rest is history…26years and still counting.
Andromeda, well said, agreed wholeheartedly, cheers!!
@The One
Chill mate, although I agree with you, but I believe some of the criticism stems from the positive angles. We can’t always wrap young players around encouragements, they need to know mistakes have consequences, so that they will be rid of it. Some of the best players in the world emerged after taking on the most vile of abuse, it makes them stronger.
That said, there are those who goes overboard, like asking the manager or player to go. These people you don’t have to bother. The way I believe is, you criticise them for mistakes, but come next game, all is forgotten, and you cheer on them. Sometimes the starting lineup makes you cringe, but you justanage your own emotions, don’t let others affect you
The One,mate when it comes to goalies the nature of the position means whoever it is has to be ready. It’s the same error with DDG it’s a ongoing issue with crosses, it’s a flaw that needs correcting or Utd have a chance to lose every game he’s involved in.I’m puzzled by the fact he’s been with the club for over a year now and this area of his game isn’t getting any better a recurring nightmare so to speak.
This is not getting on his back just a fact errors at the goalie position proves fatal, Imo he’s not ready untill this get’s figured out because every team Utd play are going to target this weakness plus if the defense has no confidence in him just compounds the issue
@Zibbie and mig Cheers mates.
Off topic.
MUTV finally got around to interview Mikael Silvestre. Back at Carrington for the last 10days or so.. Heard that he had done an interview, but it didn’t come out for several days. Shows ya how dead it is around the grounds durring internationals
Mikael: “I am back here to train”
Making up for 2 yrs at Arsenal more like spouting some crap as well. Seriously?!
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Oct/Mikael-Silvestre-reveals-his-Premier-League-ambition.aspx
No matter how experienced a player, he’s bound to make mistake. The great Van Der Sar makes mistakes even at Old Trafford with a relatively easy team, e.g: the West Brom match we drew at home a couple of season ago.
How you expect a young player to overcome his weakness if not given the real match oppurtunity for him to deal with it. Mental & physical training alone won’t do it. He can only gain confidence by facing his fear factor in real matches. He’ll make mistakes, but a player with positive attitude (De Gea is blessed with such) will learn and improve from such experience. Of course SAF had to take risk with that but it’s for long term benefit.
At the same time we can’t pin point every mistake a player makes as his weakness. It’s less and infrequent with top class players. Hopefully DeGea falls into that bracket.
And by the way one year is definitely not enough. Schmeicel & Van Der Sar didn’t turn up to be a star over night.
Patience & believe…
@Andromeda
Don’t know if you’ve heard of this guy called Matt Busby…
Sure look at Rafael people saying he is no good and is reckless, look at him now, he’s been our best player this year , he has came on so much, no 1 RB for years to come.
mig78 very few keepers play for a top team at 20-21,it’s a trade that needs to be learned most do it at lower levels,please don’t compare DDG with VDS that’s just bloody stupid.If VDS had stayed a extra year Utd would have won the league,VDS would maybe make 2 or 3 mistakes a year not a game ffs.
In different leagues DDG could get away with his issue but not in the prem,you don’t fucking blood young keepers at the the top level at the cost of games and trophies.He’s not going to gain confidence by fucking up every week it’s obvious by his game he has 0% confidence with crosses, fact is it’s the same fucking problem week after week so it’s not even mistakes its a flaw in his game
Untill this gets sorted the lad isn’t ready don’t care how much Utd paid for him or what his potential is.Maybe a loan spell would do him good can’t keep him wrapped in cotton wool,if he wants to be Utds num 1 needs to step up to the plate and start taking command of that fucking 6 yard box instead of acting like a scared kid every fucking time.
CK9 and no one is saying in a few years DDG won’t be a top goalie so what’s your point
And lng may it last! Dont even want to think about when S.A.F leaves.
@kanchelskis, hope my statement about Fergie doesn’t sound as if am ignoring the rest of united history.nah!that is totally not in my blood.Busby was a mega mind for the club, he has put the basic scaffold and drive us from success to success, it would be a crime to deny that.but my voice should stil go to Fergie.with all the changes and chaos of our postmodern days both at the level of player’s attitude and the modern conqueres of capitalism he still managed to build the Busby paradigm in a new fashion and he handled many rough situations with utmost wisdom.every manager had his own mistakes, nobody can doubt this but the longevity of his shear determination and enthusiasm for football and the club is world class.his passion will drive him to further success if his health allow him.and obviously my worry will start the day he retires.hopefully we will find the best successor but I genuinely doubt it!
@The One
DDG ‘ s weakness has been on crosses as he’s excellent in other areas including distribution, and going by his last game(though clean sheet kept) dropping him recently has only dented his confidence more, Some of the saves he’s made other keepers I feel just wouldn’t have got a hand to it But haven’t our defenders been at fault many more times this season for goals conceded than DDG? So yeah I would give him time on the basis that he has his weaknesses but makes up for it in other areas
murt73 a goalie can’t have a major flaw and that’s ok he makes up for it in other areas, Utd are one of the top teams in the world ffs not a Sunday kick around and if you’ve ever played football what unhinges the whole defense quicker than anything is a goalie that doesn’t take command and drops or misses crosses,It becomes a domino effect.What i’m having a problem with is some fans just can’t seem to face up to the fact that the lad isn’t ready.This is Manchester United,he has to get it sorted quick or learn his trade in the reserves or on loan
From Sky:
Sky Sources – England team: Hart, Walker, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines, Carrick, Cleverley, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rooney (c) & Welbeck
4 United players in the starting XI. At least there is something to interest a United fan!
Get in! Congrats to Rooney as captain, that is a big deal.
Wayne.
On the money there.
Its all thanks to #dick
Dick all fucking dick
@FletchTHEMAN
Surely going to watch that, four mancs
3 points to england…
Yeah, it was nothing more than a routine win… Blah, blah, blah
He’s played 43 games for Utd and looks no different now than day 1 with crosses,why is that and again this isn’t mistakes its a deficiency that isn’t getting rectified which should be worrying to all of us.Just can’t keep saying,give him time that was the theme throughout last season,whether it’s mental or otherwise it’s a problem that has to be addressed not swept under the rug
I think most of the crosses he flapped vs newcastle were all because of trying to impress
He came out trying to claim every cross imo that was stupid
And the impact of chopping and changing all the time might affected his game. Let’s stick with him he do more good than bad….
“No matter how experienced a player, he’s bound to make mistake. The great Van Der Sar makes mistakes even at Old Trafford with a relatively easy team, e.g: the West Brom match we drew at home a couple of season ago.
How you expect a young player to overcome his weakness if not given the real match oppurtunity for him to deal with it. Mental & physical training alone won’t do it. He can only gain confidence by facing his fear factor in real matches. He’ll make mistakes, but a player with positive attitude (De Gea is blessed with such) will learn and improve from such experience. Of course SAF had to take risk with that but it’s for long term benefit.
At the same time we can’t pin point every mistake a player makes as his weakness. It’s less and infrequent with top class players. Hopefully DeGea falls into that bracket.
And by the way one year is definitely not enough. Schmeicel & Van Der Sar didn’t turn up to be a star over night.
Patience & believe”
Spot on mig. When de gea was signed, he wasn’t the complete article and still isn’t. The fact he started out in spanish means he isn’t used to the physically gruelling style and the constant crosses, I don’t think he was used to it. He’s had to adapt and still does. The crosses and coming out for the ball can be worked on, his talent for me is not in doubt, patience is needed regardless of him spending a year already. Don’t get the issue, it was clear before signing him that he was not the finished article, he should be rallied around and be encouraged. Obviously he has to step up and I hope he does.
Proverb the problem is though mate he flaps at crosses every game not just one game
Anyway if some fans don’t see it as a major problem that isn’t getting any better not much more can be said
He’s 21 and as a keeper, a lot more learning has to be done. I think he’s far better than lindegaard or any keeper at the club. De gea has the potential to be amongst the.very best out there. No top player plying their trade has had a smooth sailing trip to the top.
samuel the problem is its the same mistake every game even after 43, so it no longer becomes a mistake it becomes a flaw.The way 99% of most players except a few is to learn their trade at lower levels were confidence and experience is gained.I’ll repeat again DDG has played 43 games with Utd and hasn’t improved one bit with crosses so obviously giving him plenty of games at the top level is doing zero to overcome his weakness
This is a fairly brilliant breaking story.
LFC Communications Director Jen Chang was convinced LFC had a mole because a fake twitter account was making some astute guesses. Seems Chang is being accused of actually harassing the owner of the account. Who was a an LFC fan, posing as a United fan in a parody acct.
Don’t ask me, just read this.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/12/liverpool-communications-director-jen-chang-accused-threatening-parody-account_n_1961126.html
samuel you keep going on about his potential and thats fine Utd have lots of players with potential that have to go through a learning process before making it into the first team,we all know you think DDG is better than Lindegaard and in the long run may become the best in the world.At this very point in time i personally feel more comfortable watching Utd with Lindegaard in net than DDG,we all have our opinions
Wayne – I would argue that 43games for de gea is not enough in terms of adaptation to this league. It might sound like a broken record but he needs time to get stronger and be moure dominant of the box and time catching crosses better. When he was signed, the possibility of him learning his trade and showing flaws was always gonna happen. If united didn’t want that then they should’ve bought a more experienced keeper but the manager can see the ability, now it’s up to the goalkeeping coaches to help him work on the basics of english football which is more crosses and catching high balls. I don’t think sending him out on loan is unnecessarily drastic and could shatter him. He needs continuity to fulfill his potential.
Is unnecessarily drastic* damn typo.
Van Persie not to start for the Netherlands today
You also have to put out that there are some nasty cunts in the premier league who are specifically targeting david, maybe that’s part of the answer, he needs to fly out with scissors kicks and nasty pinches.
I don’t think it any different to the original one @Samuel – United WE Stand
Anyways, Nani starts for portugal vs russia.
Looking forward to watching the lad he’s has been under a lot of stick due to his current form let’s see how he go…
He seems to perform well when in his country’s jersey
I don’t think its any different to the original one @Samuel – United WE Stand
Anyways, Nani starts for portugal vs russia.
Looking forward to watching the lad he has been under a lot of stick due to his current form lately let’s see how he go…
He seems to perform well when in his country’s jersey
samuel i’m beginning to think Utd should go and sign a veteran goalie,DDG’s potential is obvious to see i just don’t think the goalie position is something a team fucks with,it’s a position that needs experience and maturity and regular mistakes become fatal.I don’t want City or Rent boys to win the title because Utd are being patient with a youngster in goal,just the way i feel mate
Ok guys, I’m not merely talking about DDG but other players as well. Even TC got lambasted recently for missing a couple of chances (considered certain goals) and was labelled useless and not united class by many just before his two games against CFR Cluj-Napoca and Newcastle.
Ok, coming back to DDG, I think the situation works both ways and dropping him recently has not done him any good. The whole team (including the defence) has played really poorly and I’m sure this has affected how he’s playing as well as much as he affecting the defence. All I’m saying is that blame should not fall squarely on his shoulders alone. Our defending (partly because of our chopping and changing due to injuries) has been abysmal. That’s my reason for saying that he deserves time and space. Let’s face it, many of our fans are quick to look for scapegoats; it used to be Fletcher, O’shea, Brown, etc. All these people want is instant success; they feel that it’s our divine right to win everything every year and don’t allow any room for errors.
I just feel these people are too emotional and irrational. I love the club too; I’ll feel gutted when we lose, especially to teams I dislike intensely, like liverpool, chelsea, man city but I can take a step back and be rational about things. Oh well, I guess we’re all different but I still can’t stand overly emotional and irrational people. I suppose I’ll have to learn to ignore those kind of posts although it’s difficult to be honest.
Proverb – I know, I think i’ve lost all bearings with my typing today. “nasty pinches”? Oh dear.
Yeah he needs that nastiness spot on again
kick them asses, let them know you’re there to own your box
But something tells me we aren’t going to start with him in goal vs stoke, crouch will trouble even the most experienced of keepers
In terms of catching he’s improved abit still think we should stick with him. Lindy lets sloppy goals in, taking the game vs tottenham as a perfect example but with david a shot from distance will never troubled him, I can even incentive the opposition striker to shoot more cause I’m more than certain De gea will keep them away
Different opinions are well to make the discussion more interesting, but like I said in previous post, opting for lindy in every outing would do no good to davids confidence and would worsen his deficiencies, cause its in the playing ground where you prove your qualities also learning from your mistakes
Wayne – I understand but united cannot be hasty by disposing off players. The club has invested in him, they can also accept he’s a work in progress whilst de gea is working harder to improve that side of his game, if united don’t fulfill their aims this season then the entire team is to blame (and I hope that doesn’t happen). This club philophy is building younger talented players, we have to back them up so the clubs reaps the benefits. I think most experienced world class keepers are already at top clubs anyway no chance of getting any of them.
Fletchtheman 15:17- WTF. This Chang guy needs to get a grip, assuming allegations are true. Lifetime ban from scouseville, that’s a punishment:-)
Samuel I don’t mean get rid mate I like Lindegaard a lot more than some but I’m talking about a quality vet who’s nearing the end of his career as a stop gap for a couple of seasons
“Manchester United thug and serial diver striker Wayne Rooney gets another chance to shame himself in an England shirt tonight, but after a history of letting his country down in vital games, the 26-year old is determined to do England proud, and follow in the footsteps of Steven Gerrard, a player he describes as an ‘inspiration’.
Rooney has proved time and time again that he has no concept of sportsmanship, class, humility or fair play, but as England’s captain for tonight’s World Cup qualifier against San Marino, he’ll have no choice but to be on his best behaviour.
Like Rooney, Gerrard has consistently failed to inspire England to great heights over the years, but the Liverpool captain’s temperament, professionalism and passion are always channeled in the right way, and this is something Rooney respects. He told Sky Sports:
“Steven Gerrard has certainly been an inspiration in my career.
“I saw his determination as a player, growing up. I saw his passion and desire to play for Liverpool and England, and that’s fantastic”.
If you believe the gross exaggeration and hyperbole of the British Press, players like Rooney are World Class superstars, capable of amazing feats of footballing genius at the highest levels of the game. Well, Euro 2012 emphatically debunked that laughable assertion once again, and in the process of defending Rooney’s England failure , Steven Gerrard inadvertently explained just why the Manchester United striker is NOT World Class. He told the Press:
“At this level one of the biggest things is playing without expectation or fear. Since he’s been around, there’s been pressure because of his performances, and it is only normal if Wayne is weighed down with that feeling of expectation because everyone expects him to do well”
Gerrard’s view perfectly captures the reasons why Rooney is not World Class:
* World Class footballers (WCFs) are not weighed down by the pressure of performing at the highest level. They thrive on the pressure, and have the mental strength to rise above the intense expectation.
* The ability to perform, influence and dominate games at international tournaments is what separates WFCs from every other footballer.
* The fact that Gerrard believes it’s ‘normal’ for alleged World Class players to repeatedly buckle under the pressure is illuminating in and of itself. That just doesn’t happen to the true greats of football, which is why they are worthy of being labelled World Class.
International tournament football is the highest level of football because it requires the strongest mentality. Players carry the hopes of an entire nation on their shoulders, which inevitably means the pressure and expectation is inarguably greater than that associated with domestic/European football.
As such, to truly be one of the best in the world, a World Class mentality is required, and Rooney just doesn’t have that, and neither does any other England player.
No doubt, if Rooney scores a couple of goals against the mighty San Marino tonight, the Press will be shouting about his ‘World Class’ ability once again…”
See also: World Class Football Performance: A New Definition
Jaimie Kanwar
Here we go, another bin dipping cunt is specifically attacking wayne with bitterness and obsession. So because he hasn’t turned up for england (mainly due to being surrounded players are not at his level, being taken to major championships despite not fully fit, played in the wrong system but tactically incomptent managers, unnecessary pressure placed on him to be a superhero/win a tournament on his own when clearly you need 11 top players and in the entire squad). The delusions has no limit with pool fans, this is yet another personal abuse flinged at our players, they claim the united team is filled with donkeys while they’re the ultimate team. These deluded bin dippers cannot help themselves, can they?. Have you fuckers heard about “keep your own houses tidy?” I bet most of you cunts spend more time on united blogs and watching united games than you do liverpool.
“Manchester United thug and serial diver striker Wayne Rooney gets another chance to shame himself in an England shirt tonight, but after a history of letting his country down in vital games, the 26-year old is determined to do England proud, and follow in the footsteps of Steven Gerrard, a player he describes as an ‘inspiration’.
Rooney has proved time and time again that he has no concept of sportsmanship, class, humility or fair play, but as England’s captain for tonight’s World Cup qualifier against San Marino, he’ll have no choice but to be on his best behaviour.
Like Rooney, Gerrard has consistently failed to inspire England to great heights over the years, but the Liverpool captain’s temperament, professionalism and passion are always channeled in the right way, and this is something Rooney respects. He told Sky Sports:
“Steven Gerrard has certainly been an inspiration in my career.
“I saw his determination as a player, growing up. I saw his passion and desire to play for Liverpool and England, and that’s fantastic”.
If you believe the gross exaggeration and hyperbole of the British Press, players like Rooney are World Class superstars, capable of amazing feats of footballing genius at the highest levels of the game. Well, Euro 2012 emphatically debunked that laughable assertion once again, and in the process of defending Rooney’s England failure , Steven Gerrard inadvertently explained just why the Manchester United striker is NOT World Class. He told the Press:
“At this level one of the biggest things is playing without expectation or fear. Since he’s been around, there’s been pressure because of his performances, and it is only normal if Wayne is weighed down with that feeling of expectation because everyone expects him to do well”
Gerrard’s view perfectly captures the reasons why Rooney is not World Class:
* World Class footballers (WCFs) are not weighed down by the pressure of performing at the highest level. They thrive on the pressure, and have the mental strength to rise above the intense expectation.
* The ability to perform, influence and dominate games at international tournaments is what separates WFCs from every other footballer.
* The fact that Gerrard believes it’s ‘normal’ for alleged World Class players to repeatedly buckle under the pressure is illuminating in and of itself. That just doesn’t happen to the true greats of football, which is why they are worthy of being labelled World Class.
International tournament football is the highest level of football because it requires the strongest mentality. Players carry the hopes of an entire nation on their shoulders, which inevitably means the pressure and expectation is inarguably greater than that associated with domestic/European football.
As such, to truly be one of the best in the world, a World Class mentality is required, and Rooney just doesn’t have that, and neither does any other England player.
No doubt, if Rooney scores a couple of goals against the mighty San Marino tonight, the Press will be shouting about his ‘World Class’ ability once again…”
See also: World Class Football Performance: A New Definition
Jaimie Kanwar
Here we go, another bin dipping cunt is specifically attacking wayne with bitterness and obsession. So because he hasn’t turned up for england (mainly due to being surrounded by players who are not at his level, being taken to major championships despite not fully fit, played in the wrong system by tactically incomptent managers, unnecessary pressure placed on him to be a superhero/win a tournament on his own when clearly you need 11 top players/in the entire squad). The delusions has no limit with pool fans, this is yet another personal abuse flinged at our players, they claim the united team is filled with donkeys while they’re the ultimate team. These deluded bin dippers cannot help themselves, can they?. Have you fuckers heard about “keep your own house tidy?” I bet most of you cunts spend more time on united blogs and watching united games than you do liverpool…..
Thug?.. Rooney is no saint but that’s rich comimg from team that has steven GBH as a captain, with suarez as its talisman.
Rooney has never buckled underpressure, he’s not one to hide away, he steps up his game in big ocassions, mainly for united. I think most would judge wayne’s world class ability on his club form which is as higher a level as you can go.
Paul scholes is world class, especially in his prime yet the england national team mis-used him. Clearly, your ability is not best utilised while playing for england, same goes for wayne..
News just in.
Footage of the Hillsbrough disaster has been released. Im watching it now. It seems the scousers where in rags and some had red shirts on, difficult to make out as the footage is in black and white. I see what I think is a cart and woman and children in tow. They are being marched along a dusty road by what can only be described as police or soldiers. They seem to have as many of the belongings you’d expect of a scouser, basically barely a pot to piss in. I think there was a goat? The police have a cross like insignia on their arm and ….. jesus christ …… one of them has a rifle. He’s sheparding them through this narrow gate, craming them in. Oh my god, he’s open fired they are rushing to get away from the bullets they are craming in to get into any place of relative safety. Theyre climbing all over each other ……. oh my god! They have Stukas! Oh the humanity, the sick bastards, they’re innocent people. why why why?
Oh hang on, sorry wrong channel – thats was Hitlers Golden Moments
There you go now Ive got the correct channel, yep, fucking scummy scousers pushing and shoving killing their own, never their fault.
South Yorkshire police about to get charged more severly than a war time Nazi soldier who was handy with a shovel and a tin of Zyklon.
Long live Sir Alex!
Off topic: on Russia 1-0 Portugal, C Ronaldo made a fishing gestures so many times (I guess) toward Capello. Does anyone know what does it mean?
Redbilly, If you like to laugh at LFC then the story is worth some investment in time.
The lad who was targeted by Chang, the LFC communications director, is keeping his real name private for now, but is known to many United fans for running a very popular twitter account, @duncanjenkinsFC, followed by thousands. It turns out is was all a parody and the lad has come clean, so to speak. But only to direct further ire at his own club?!
You guessed it Liverpool. The story just can’t get much better.
As revealed today, the @duncanjenkinsFC parody account has received actual threats of bodily harm from Chang.
Paranoid much?!
http://duncanjenkins.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/such-little-thing-makes-such-big.html
PS. I actually just pieced this together from various bloggers and could well have it wrong. If any of you lads have more to chime in, go on… don’t be shy !
goatinaunitedtshirt.
Hah you better watch out that dopey fucker Reds will be on awarding you a retard title.Well I have a bit of bad news for you I have no intention sharing my retard prize gifted to me by him it is highly prized.
@goat
I dont always agree with your rants. But damn, that has me in stitches.
Thank you for the hearty laugh. I needed that today.
huh, this united side playing against san marino looks useful.
parryheid
Reds whos that?
Ive taken pretty much a two week holiday from here as some of the posters have been a wee bit underage in their reasoning and discussion and whilst being a little bit blue at times (not bitter) I dont wont to be done for grooming. Never touched a comb myself and couldnt care less if my victim has either but thats a different matter altogether. If Im labelled a retard then Im happy, glad to be the center of someones attentions.
Wee Toms Ligaments
Your welcome fella. Im either in a dark dark mood (my black dog) or full of beans cheering people up. Never any need to take offence and if you disagree with my football reasonings then you must be a bit lost in the head as they are sound.
I use the net to the fullest, saying it as it is. We are all anonymous on here and like when drunk anonynimity or couldnt care less is when the truth comes out. I dont live my life pussy footing around people as I dont believe in humanity anyway. But always glad to cheer someone up.
Ravi
Whats the team? Cant be arsed to check and decades of picking the press’ favourite players has made me give up on the national team. Unlike Mancs who feel detached from England Im a true patriot but the English football team is just Chavy and I want no part of it in it.
Whats the fuck has happened. Its a friday night and no one is on here, wheres the regulars? I realise there isnt any United match this weekend but come on people. Is this the death of RoM, ?
Its no easy feat to organise a forum such as this and I do reckon some of you could be a little more loyal to StR even if there are a few trolls on here. I realise Ive gone for walk abouts but thats because Im a fucking head case, I have severe mental issues, depressions and scizoid personality dissorder and have a difficulty in relating to people and giving a fuck but I dont believe all of the rest of you are.
Pull your fingers out, fight off the trolls and start the chatter again, bloody unbelievable.
ENGLAND ARE SHIT AS HELL
ARUN
That should be England are as shit as heaven as its full of bean flickers and do gooders, rather spend my time with a fork up my arse balancing peas whilst being sworn at by some horned fucker.
Not going well, lol
hmmm….
Droning brass and drums….
An opposition coming from a place I can’t locate on a map….
Nil Nil on the scoreboard….
Some clapped-out twat in the manager’s seat….
Suicide-inducing commentary….
Delusions of Grandeur if a dodgy 1-0 is secured….
THIS IS WHAT ITS LIKE TO BE ENGLAND.
Watching England v San Marino on telly in the background..comedy gold.
took a quick glance at skysports live commentary online and they have the good sense to allow people to make predictions during the commentary, what a novel idea, 12-1 some twat said.
The lads showing why they are united quality at the other side
Go rooney
Welbz what a finish lad get in
hope welbeck isn’t turning into the type of player who does his best work in the national shirt hahah
rooney loooking realy sharp cleverley also same
http://thepeoplesperson.com/rafael-scoops-second-manchester-united-award-in-a-month/?
Watch the video…haha
Class
goatinaunitedshirt.
A Rawkite looking for sympathy on this site who didn’t want to answer my question ie who killed the 96.
Goat you fucking funny fucker
You would rather have a fork up you arse
Lmao!!!
4 lads in the england set up, I reckon that would tempt you to see how they’re doing
United lads bossing the england game and clevs scholes like pass to danny over the top was superb pitty couldn’t score.. Enjoying an england game first time since the days of becks neville’s scholes etc..
United domination
I’d support england if the team resembled this
Hart(wanker)
Walker___Smalling__ShawcroSs___Baines
Clevs__Jones__Carrick
Oxlade——-Young
Rooney
Welbeck
Decent team no wankers/cunts and most likely to play some decent football lol I would have Amos over hart maybe if we don’t want any cunts
Manchester United 2 – 0 San Marino :p :p
Rooney (pen) and Welbeck (Remember his goal in the Euro)..Carrick and Welbeck hit the post and the Ox-Rooney Combo is Superb
Curtis, if England lined up with your 4-3-2-1-1, England should win most matches…with 12 players.
Glad to see our players in the England shirt.
@Curtis, same for me, first time in a loooong time have enjoyed watching an england game.
Waiting for Jones, Smalling, Powell and Young to fill this team. So we could dominate outside the league also.!!!
Maybe VanPersie also will try to get the England passport? So that we are represented more?
glad to see the lads scoring even though it’s against Lil Marino.
wen smalling jones and young come back ENGLAND WILL HAVE 7 united players
edcunited1878
Bet they fucking wouldn’t
ARUN
Smalling wont get past Walker or Cahill. Cahill and Smalling in the same team would be too much a similar style and all England managers have the hots for attacking fullbacks on both side and are so far up Glen Johnsons arsehole that they have tide marks around their ankles.
I would pick him but Ive got a fucking brain.
@goat
mate smalling and jones could be the new central defence in 2014 . i think they will be bettr than cahill jagielka and lescott
watching the england game.. probably one of the worst international games i’ve even seen ..
ARUN
Your dead right fella, they were the defensive paring for a couple of years for the England U21 set up but England has a knack of picking players well too late and then run them way past their prime. Cahill and Jagielka are here to stay for 5 years plus mark my words and as for Lescott the scabbied cunt that donkey is here to stay.
@Edcunited1878
Lol its friday mate forgive me haha but you get my drift
Would be the closest thing to seeing united play during this crappy international week lol
WeAreUnited that would be a sight to behold, but I’d rather RVP stay far away from that dreaded Wembley pitch with his issues lol
Another one for Rooney, he scores in patches.. Sign of a purple patch coming for united? I hope so… Now unlce woy get him off and wrap him in cotton
Lol as I type Danny the lad scores!! Fuck you Townsend
what are you talking about, just give Jones and Smalling a run in the game and they are the new partners in the middle
ARUN says:
@goat
mate smalling and jones could be the new central defence in 2014 . i think they will be bettr than cahill jagielka and lescott
Absolutely correct MATE! soon as they get games and Ferdinand and Vidic falls off, (I bet Vida will be sold in 2-4 years) They are the new CB’s of England and United, Mark these words!
Both are my favourites, but It will happen sometimes. As for Evans, well he will be a great back-up,.
@ Curtis hahahah, maybe you’re right
@goat
well mate smalling for me can be uniteds best defender if he has a bit of luck with injuries.he can replace rio .smalling is for me potentialy englands best defender
but then @goatinaunitedshirt
after reading your comment again and thinking it, well England leaves it like that and picks piss takes over great players (Ferdinand)
Anyway, I don’t think it will be that hard picking the duo, if they play regularly for us. In the middle of defense. So in that sense don’t worry. soon we will have 7 United players!!!!
LiverPool logic tweet : “Shelvy’s changed the game” haha thought that was funny can picture a scouser sitting in a pub saying just that
@curtis
you be joking right?
hhaahhaha, 4 united goals and Cleverley assisted the OX’s goal.
WOW, they are DELUSIONAL! maybe drunked.
Not too long ago Germans put 13 past San Marino.
Most definitely United>>>>England!
maybe they meant tha SanMarino started playing better and the game became a bit interesting
curtis
I switched on the telly after 60 minutes, when it was still 2-0. England have scored thrice after I tuned in, so technically I changed the game #ScouseLogic
WeAreUnited
Its a parody twitter account just for laughs but wouldn’t surprise me if one of them lot thought that haha
Cleverly looked good today everything went through him and rooney…
I see ireland have got a spanking and robbie brady had to make a competitive debut for them? Poor lad
Scotland was robbed tonight!!!!!
TC is getting better and better this season. I really do think he’s gonna be outstanding.
Shelvey for England, is a sad reflection on how low the team England has fallen!
No @Dela you didn’t!! Only Scousers change games! #ScouseLogic
Lol
Kagawa scored the only goal in Japan’s 1-0 win over France, I think the game was played in France, great result for the Japanese.
Its pretty easy getting england cap this days, that bellend shelvey how on earth did he manage to get a cap? Fucking easy really…
Go boy… You will fail trying
No, kagawa didn’t score a goal tonight
Just heard tom cleverly’s 165 touches was the most ever recorded for and england game beating beckhams record against andora
Nice to see Wayne and Goat back.
A brilliant mind, is a rare thing, dogged by demons, tormented to be tested. Thirsty for for an =. To know the pleasures of truffles, caviar, duck live (frog-waa) and Champagne. On must taste shit to have perspective of the heights, one must know low.
Tom Cleverley has record 165 passes for England. Welbeck and Rooney destroyed SM. The lads both had braces and Welbs gets MOTM. Carrick completely controled the deep. Yet the Mirror doesn’t rate a single United player higher than 6. What am I missing?
Chuffed that Carrick got a Wembley game, his first ever if you can believe that.
Wayne is on 31 international goals, 3rd on all time list.
No injuries.
Only disappointment was that Darren Fletcher couldn’t get a win for Scotland on his return as Captain.
I think I could have completed a similar number of passes against that team.. that game was sad to watch..I think one of the worst ever int. I”ve seen..
@proverb
They had another players name as the scorer but I was pretty sure it was Kagawa who scored, just double checked the match report and indeed it was Kagawa who scored the goal.
http://www.goal.com/en/match/93822/france-vs-japan/report
what a counter-attack
The Kagawa kid strikes. Glad to see our United lads doing well in internationals
class act
Kagawa’s goal v France
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POjGwL6OGUQ
England v San Marino Goals
Cleverley 2 assists.
Rooney 2 goals.
Welbeck 2 goals.
All she wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seG0NpAoICw
that’s the 2nd time welbeck scored cheeky little backheel there. sort of becoming his trademark. nice.
Not ManUtd material ehh?
Chico wound up with a goal and an assist against Guyana. An all-around success of international play for our lads it would seem.
Guyana 0 – 5 Mexico
Highlights here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daMMDspmRbg
Chico was instrumental for the 2nd and 3rd goal and rose highest to head in the fourth.
@ Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson, concur your claim.
@mig. Cheers mate. I think I counted an assist and hat trick for Chicharito, or was it more. Distracted by the nutter announcer
But spot the difference between Guyana and San Marino? Not parked behind the bus, actually looked like footballers. Shows how hard it is to play v the San Marinos and Stokes of this world.
My point earlier was to get off the young men’s backs you Bastard.
i always look at english forums and the lack of football knowledge in the brittish public is plain shocking!!!!!!! any footballer
who shows any kind of football knowlegde i dismissed at first sight, its shocking to read someone saying that cleverly
short passing is bullshit and rooney was shit, first it was scholes,ferdinand its like in england they only like kick and rush
headless chicken football ala lampard, gerrad,john terry….i cant believe someone could be so ignorant about the most popular game in the world.
So welbeck,Rooney and hernandez all scored. So it is very clear we have got a great strike force if you add lethal RVP. It is just we have to be patient. These 4 could help us win many trophies.
Kagawa also scored .Our attacking options looks great.
I think that Cleverly was oustanding yesterday. He makes England play one touch posession football but the same donkey journos that critcize traditional long ball play seem not to notice it. Bring back “killer ball” Gerard!
Yes the United lads scored some goals and cleverly got some assists and broke a record but that is nothing more than to be expected as we played San Marino the worst national football team in the world (some achievement).
1 win in there footballing history (113 games)
Concede an average of 4.5 goals a game
1 professional in their squad
Let’s save all the plaudits till after the Poland game shall we, my Sunday league team would probably beat those lot and to be honest I’m disappointed England only got 5 goals.
Looks like cleverly is modelling his entire style of play on Iniesta..great for United
Thought I’d weigh in on the DDG debate.
We all agree that his only weakness is coming for high balls otherwise his overall ability is excellent. The big question is why he hasn’t improved that area in 43 whole games and my response is, it has actually improved. What? Improved? Ok, Ok, here me out.
A year ago he didn’t even have the confidence or desire to come for those long balls. What I’m seeing is DDG coming out and attempting to punch the ball away, he is not very good at that yet but you can see he is trying to improve on dealing with the aerial threat. I have also noticed when not under pressure he is very comfortable with the aerial balls. However due to his small frame and body weight, when under pressure from the bigger and stronger forwards he fluffs at the ball most of the time. When people suggest give him time and he’ll improve they are actually right. This is because as he grows, he’ll get stronger and will not be out muscled as easily as he is right now.
The physio’s and triners cannot just pump him up with growth hormones or attempt to add him too much weight too soon as I’m sure that will affect his agility and he may loose his reflexes. The only way is to keep him on a diet that will allow him to add on some weight slowly and strengthen up.
Once his strength and body weight is up to par, believe me he’ll no longer look like a small kid trying to take something from an adult but he’ll be crushing all those defenders in his way. But all we can do is wait for him to bulk up slowly and as we wait he has to deal with those balls the best way he can, and that’s by punching them. He’ll get better at punching as the season progresses so really because you just dont start doing something and become excellent at the first attempt.
Also hoping he is not a Giggs type and cannot add weight to save his life, coz if that’s the case then we may be screwed.
How can anybody be pleased with England playing San Marino?
fucking hell there shite………………..nobody should be giving England any credit what so ever.
get a grip you people lets judge England when they play someone of note
be honest it was a load of shit.
lawman – Who gives a fuck about england? united fans like to keep an eye on their players, i see nothing,wrong with that… When they play anyone of note, they always struggle or made to look like sideshow bob. If i were you, i’d drop the “we have the right to beat anyone a million nil” mentality and enjoy the rare sight of the england national team dominating a side even if the team is lacking.
lawman – Who gives a fuck about england? united fans like to keep an eye on their players, i see nothing,wrong with that… When they play anyone of note, they always struggle or made to look like sideshow bob. If i were you, i’d drop the “we have the right to beat anyone a million nil” mentality and enjoy the rare sight of the england national team dominating a side even if the team is lacking…..
Bigwill – why do you bother? Too many muppets out there can’t judge a chihuahua bag of shit let alone analyse a football. Carrick is a prime example, they degrade players for what they can’t do and never acknowledge they for what they can.
Fools still expect michael to bomb forward like an electrocuted burger when clearly, he’s never been a dynamic player. He is a deep lying midfielder, his strenghts are passing, reading the game, intercepting, positional and tactical awareness e.t.c But he’s still looked at to do something else….
Bigwill – why do you bother? Too many muppets out there can’t judge a chihuahua’s bag of shit let alone analyse a football game. Carrick is a prime example, they degrade players for what they can’t do and never acknowledge them for what they can.
Fools still expect michael to bomb forward like an electrocuted burger when clearly, he’s never been a dynamic player. He is a deep lying midfielder, his strenghts are passing, reading the game, intercepting, positional and tactical awareness e.t.c But he’s still looked at to do something else.
As much as england always perform shit, I have to say there are good set of youngsters coming in england setup. If used properly they will perform better. I am not saying they will win trophies but they can perform better in bigger competition. Terry’s retirement is a great thing for england. It would be more great if Lampard,Gerrard and ferdinand also retire. No point in selecting them. All of them may perform great for their respective clubs but playing together has been disastrous for all of them.
nadzfire
lol
difference is Iniesta scores goals. Not putting Cleverley down but Iniesta he is not.
Zibbie
I’ll see if I can stay if it pleases you so, lol. Foie Gras of goose liver is superior to duck liver (malard) in my opinion. However tnat knowledge comes from when I used to holiday in France and on the isle of Jersey as a young boy. Being a vegetarian through choice such delicacies are no longer on the menu. Funny that you seem to think I live the good life, nothing could be further from the truth my friend. While I have a reasonably brilliant mind it is also incredibly self destructive. I love it but the people around me are sickened and saddened by my lack of desire and gumption.
Goat
It took time for iniesta to really establish himself. I don’t remember people praising iniesta at 23. The thing iniesta did well at 23 was play regularly. He was playing regular football from the age of 20. Thats why I always say tom needs to play 40 games atleast this season. Unfortunately for him last season turned out to be a nightmare as he as injured for majority time (Thanks to davies cunt).
Speaking of goals Iniesta himself doesn’t score that many goals. But the thing is when he scores it will be a very important one (In WC final for spain, Goal against Chelsea in the dying moments to knock them out). I am not saying tom is the next iniesta but I won’t be surprised if he becomes that good. He has already scored 2 goals so he has the ability to score. He just need to play many games if he has to reach at iniesta’s level. Even after that he may never reach but let me tell you this boy has got talent and that to special talent. This could be the season of tom cleverley if all goes well.
cleverley can be here for the next 10 years. JUST STAY FIT.i think he can be a mifield great. iniesta is 28 now .five years ago i dont hink he was that great.but his career kick started under pep. i know squad rotation is necessary. but tom has to play all the games. i remember mourinho playing lampard in almost every game .i would be extremely delighted if tom can score 10 goals this season.
we definetely have the future of england. clverley welbeck smalling jones plus rooney young and carrick. i definetely beleive hodgson needs to be brave and drop gerrard as captain and make rooney skipper. because gerrard is not iireplaceble.i think clverley and wilshere wen fit are better .
haha Goat I missed spelled it so bad spell check could not help!!!
Just a point your high life self induced mind altering drugs. Booze, meds, wtf ever!!!
Goat talent is a strange mistress, everyone without it knows what you should do with it!!!
Goat I am not being smug, I have had the pleasure and pain to be around functional for the most part real fucking smart people. All to a person have a dark, dark sides. My family members as well. In WWII all were checked. My dad was re-checked, tested and poked and prodded. a IQ of over 170, not that IQ test are all that. A functional Alcoholic. A leader of men as well. I guess there are 8 types of intelligence now they added spirituality as one. Some absent minded professor types. Some take a car apart and put it back together.
Be well, be yourself and remember. Try not to step on flowers, drop kick puppies and walk away from crying babies!
Replacing SAF will be the biggest job in football. Replacing Fergie, keeping the club at the same level of success, while continuing to engineer the long-term evolution of the squad as Fergie has done, is probably the biggest managerial challenge in the history of club football. It’s something that everyone considers impossible. That’s why Mourinho will want it, and it’s also why he’ll be in it for the long haul — because that’s the only way he can create a legend for himself that is absolutely unique.
As fans, many of us have sentimental favourites that we’d prefer to get the job. Mine is Gary Neville. But I wonder how many would stand firm behind their favourite, if the club’s performance suffered? Ask yourself: how far down the league would we sink, before you started to turn on your sentimental favourite? How many seasons out of the Champions League are you prepared to endure? What if it came to relegation — would you still stand behind your man? How bad does it need to get, and for how long, before you start to turn on the sentimental favourite whose appointment made you so happy?
What I’m driving at here is not that the sentimental favourites are no good. Given enough time and support, any of them might succeed. (I can’t know that they won’t, any more than you can know that they will.) What I am driving at is that fans are fickle. What we want most of all is more success. What we want least of all is failure, especially failure that is diabolical, protracted over several (even many) seasons and is accompanied by chaos witin the squad and at the managerial level.
No one who cares about the club wants that. We the fans don’t want it. The directors don’t want it. Our old legends don’t want it. And the club’s owners, investors and business partners don’t want it either.
It is in everyone’s interests that the reins be handed over to the person most likely to succeed, and I can’t see any other candidate who stacks up to Mourinho. None of the sentimental favourites has proven himself; perhaps the one who has come closest is Solskjaer but his track record is still a long, long way behind Mourinho.
Of the other established managers, many are simply too old. Of those who are young enough, most are mere pretenders, mere upstarts who have had some initial success but whose inexperience and shallowness have soon been exposed. A few have proved themselves to have genuine ability, especially those who have overachieved on small budgets, such as Moyes and Martinez. I have time for both those managers, but I don’t believe they are right for United. Making the most of a battling club, run on a shoestring, requires a certain mentality and skills, and I take my hat off to them. I’ll go so far as to say that the qualities they’ve shown would have been ideal for a club that was in United’s position back in 86/87. But the United of today is not anything like the United that SAF found when he came on board.
The other strong candidate is Guardiola. But I find it hard to judge Pep, given his lack of experience at other clubs. It is difficult to say how much of Barca’s success is really down to him. So much of thre groundwork of their style was laid before he became manager. So many of their players were developed over a long time through their own academy, again before he was manager. It’s just so hard to judge against Mourinho, who, despite what some of us think of him as a person, has had success just about everywhere. In eight seasons, he has won 7 domestic league titles with four different clubs, including three in major countries. And two Champions Leagues.
Oh, I know many say he has bought those titles, and that he never sticks around. But to both those statements: so what? Despite our debt, we are not a piss-ant player in the transfer market. OK, we haven’t spent money like Shitty and PSG and some others, but still, we do spend it and not trivial amounts either. If Mourinho has spent money, then at least he has done so wisely (for the most part; of course, there are always exceptions). For you can’t have it both ways: you can’t dismiss his success by saying he bought it, while also claiming that he has been a failure in the transfer market (and I do regularly hear both claims about him).
And as for sticking around, how many managers do stick around these days? If length of service at a single club is a requirement for Fergie’s replacement, who does that leave? Only Whinger and Moyes, as far as I can see.
For me, it boils down to this: if I had to pawn my assets and bet every cent on the manager most likely to deliver us the continued success we all crave (once Fergie steps down), that man would be Mourinho. I would be happier if a Giggs or Neville or Solskjaer would take over and be successful, but I am not prepared to bet “everything” on it actually happening. I would feel more comfortable if a Guardiola was to do the job, but again, it is a much bigger gamble. And our club’s great traditions would be in more respectable hands under Moyes or even Martinez, but would our legend continue to grow? I doubt it.
Sorry for the rant. Haven’t been contributing much recently! Cheers!