Obertan showed he had bags of pace in his time at United but seemed a long way off being the finished product. His first touch of the ball at Old Trafford saw him speed down the left wing… before running the ball out of play. That pretty much summarises his time with the club.
Ahead of returning to Old Trafford for the first time since leaving for Newcastle, Gabriel Obertan has claimed his friend and former team mate, Patrice Evra, is going to be in for a difficult afternoon.
“You always want to go back to your old club and prove to the gaffer that you are a better player,” Obertan said. “I feel like I’ve improved since arriving here, and I hope the manager is quite pleased with what I’ve done so far. I will try to play my best game, but the most important thing is the points, obviously, and what the team does. We are just trying to focus on this one and we know it is going to be a tough one. I’ve still got some really good friends there – I call Patrice Evra regularly – so I think it is going to be great to go back there, feel the atmosphere and play against him too. I’ve already told him that it’s going to be hard against me – he is in for a difficult game!”
Man Utd News 24/7
Good luck at Newcastle Obi. After tomorrow of course.
You’ll need to have come on a bundle to give anybody a tough game chum.
Has anyone yet established whether the reported £3m transfer fee was paid by Newcastle for his services, or more likely by United to Newcastle as an inducement to take this hapless waster off our hands?
Like I said yesterday, his head got too big. Literally.
Still no thread for Best…… sigh
Seriously though who gives a flying fuck? Its the day that we should all be celebrating the BEST
@parryheid
Don’t take the pish! I remember when some were saying
Obi > Nani
on here…!
Hoping for a good performance from midfield and can we go back to our early season form.
As for Obertoon he was shit you know it,i know it Evra knows it.
AlphaRS.
Oh I’ll just move to the naughty corner then.
Whats the difference between a Porcupine and the Shitty dressing room?
A Porcupine has its pricks on the outside…
I was watching match of the day when my wife came in the living room, wearing nothing but a bathrobe.
She stands in front of the telly, takes the robe off and reveals the hot black lingerie I bought her for her birthday.
She looks at me seductively and says: “like what you see, honey?”
“Hell yeah”, I said, “The scouse bastards lost again!”
Night Night all ….
Can’t get over Obertan saying “gaffer”!! I caught the last 20 mins of city v Newcastle last week. I shit you not, I don’t think I saw one Newcastle player put a tackle in on a city player. Have a luck for yourself, it’s as if they were told not to. Be a different story tomorrow i’ll imagine!!
He’s a jocker
FFS sake – Anderson now gone for 3 months. Obviously showed in his last few peformances.
Rooney can now lock up the midfield role until he’s back – TC gone for a still a while yet.
Can’t see Obertain getting a start tomorrow – as noted above not only was his first touch sometimes”heavy” but his second through to fifth were generally worse.
Having said that he’ll likely crack in a hat trick tomorrow the way our luck is running.
Definately hope for a big showing tomorrow.
COME ON REDS
UNITED 20/4/12 – (and maybe The Carling Cup)
If Ubertoon gives Evra a hard game we should really worry about him.
Well it wouldn’t really surprise him since Evra is almost on the lvl of Glen Johnson.
aaahh how refreshing it is seeing Chelsea choke themselves with their shit.
@Fred
not as funny when i said it’d be interesting to see how he plays against Evra yesterday ? Surely not.
Evra’s reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va-dPnbfDY0
LOL Slim, that was very funny too, but to hear it from the horse’s mouth like this… wow.
God bless Obertan.
Love United.
Love life. Love RoM. Love Phil Jones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtQXI8d0R4
Love you and leave you United.
ps
- Happy birthdays King Eric, especially your son’s!
- Shine on CedarsDiamond!
- Rest in peace George Best, your grace lives on.
Still can’t believe we tried to replace Ronaldo with this clown. It must have been a wind-up by the old master Fergie.
ahoy smartalex
Heyya smartalex… you’ve been missed. I think there’s a welcoming committee for you here…
Spent the day wishing we had some clown who had half of what Bestie had… *sigh*
On topic… I haven’t seen Obertan genuinely threatening anyone since his move. Good pace but lacking brains. The games I had caught, it’s a non issue if he got past his man. But then former players always have a point to prove.
i’m drunk here lads. 2pac’s “I ain’t mad at cha” on the ipod.
A light that never blinkers…….that never goes out. Maverick, Legend, Genius. Simply the George Best.
RIP 7
Haha… cheers Willie… bloody pissed here as well…
It’s Obertans fault we drew on Tuesday
He psyched out the defence with his words of wisdom
Here we go!
I hear he’s going to star in the next Indiana Jones film.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Obertan skull.
And just like metal was magnetic to the crystal skulls, mediocrity is magnetic to Obi’s skull.
Evening,said on a earlier thread Newcastle are hard working but don’t have much,Obertan puts it into perspective,had problems making the 1st team squad and is a starter for Newcastle.When its all sorted mid-table team
Hi smartalex good to see you back mate
The Protocol is back?
Their are Birthdays?
Here we go!!!
Actually, he has improved, fair play to the guy. I think in 4-5 years he will be a much better player as his decision making improves. He was a huge talent when we had him I thought but his decision making and confidence we an issue – in a way he is like Walcott – great pace and penetration but poor in final third though Walcott has had a lot of games. Also, Newcastle are doing well and he is a playing part of that team.
Always nice to welcome back former players who clearly still hold affection for the Club.
Also – I don’t understand why Oberton is getting abuse on this threat – a bit sad.
Happy brithday KE,though mate if you’re a geezer like me its kinda the reverse of being born one step closer to the box.lol on that happy thought have a good time mate.
Costas
I though it was Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Obertan.
Girl……you’ll be a woman……soon
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Nov/sir-alex-ferguson-hits-back-over-midfield.aspx
Same thing we said when Da Silva was for sale. Interesting that SAF is looking for a robson keane typr of player
@MG
That would be Newcastle, lol.
The cup game at Southampton was Obertan’s Last Crusade for us though.
Hey HELLO!
NOVEMBER 25, 2011 AT 22:28
smartalex says:
Love United.
Love life. Love RoM. Love Phil Jones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqtQXI8d0R4
Love you and leave you United.
ps
- Happy birthdays King Eric, especially your son’s!
- Shine on CedarsDiamond!
- Rest in peace George Best, your grace lives on.
KE have a son?
A Robbo type does not exist anymore sadly
I had money on Fletch to be our Keano since 2006. Only last year did he swerve off that path but by Jan, he’ll be awesome again. But nobody can be like our Roy !
Scholes……Irreplaceable
Robbo – An extinct breed
——————————————–
The shite that he is, I’d reckon Evra can play the game Blindfolded.!!!
yeah right…seriously, gabby??? you vs evra ??? still long way to go mate..
@NBI Red Onion I also dont understand why, but i said something to this effect yesterday, so get used to it. On the other hand, this was brilliant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0TCSzQU3WQ&feature=share
morning reds. Was never really a fan of Obertan. I’d have loved to see him succeed at Utd but he just couldn’t see it. Weather he tried too hard or weather he just wasn’t good enough i couldn’t decide. Anyway Come on Reds time to kick on and get the points.
Joking aside, Obertan was a talented boy, just not good enough for us. Maybe it could have worked out better for him if he got a decent run of games in the side, but we will never know. I always found it unfair to trash someone for their limited ability, when it’s Ferguson that decides who comes and goes. Anyway, I hope Obi does well. But after tonight.
I’ll keep making fun of his head though. Not even Hulk Hogan and his 24 inch pythons could put it in a headlock.
Fortunately I get to see this game tonight. I did think this guy had talent and was lambasted by my brother and after the Crawley game he was right. His attitude after January last season was shocking and although he wanted regular football he did nothing in his time here to show that he deserved it. That attitude cost him a PL medal. Don’t think he even made the bench after that. So whilst I am fond of a lot of our ex players, he’s in the same category as Jon Macken and Terry Cooke for me. In that I don’t give a fuck. Both the Geordies I know don’t rate him although haven’t spoken to either in a while so that may have changed.
@CedarsDevil – Japan is awesome thanks for asking won my flight money back on Wednesday which was a national holiday over here playing Pichinko, went out clubbing for the first time last night since I got here but settled in pretty quickly just slowly getting to terms with finding my way around. I’ll drop by when I can on here but 9 hours difference makes it a bit difficult.
Great to see you here Notorious. Glad to hear you are settling well to your new environment.
Costas wayne zibbie etc etc. Cheers lads.
Smartalex. Bloody hell man. Where you been? Great to see you back. Nice one and thanks.
Zibbie. No mate. It IS a boy just not born yet. Thirty seven weeks plus now so anytime now. That’s why I can’t go to barcodes game just in case. Next game will be boxing day. Ninety nine per cent sure Ruth won’t go into labour today but if she did and I wasn’t there I would never live it down!
Costas. Hello mate. Ha. Love your ObiHead lines pal.
Wayne. Ha. Yes mate just another year closer to the coffin.
Cheers Costas. I see our medical team has been working well again in regards to Anderson!!! Read Fergie’s interview with the website and whilst he’s ruled out moves in January like we all expected it was good to read that he has 2-3 targets in mind and that he’s on the lookout for a new Keane or Robson. Whilst I’m a little bit peeved he rules out the January window as theres only 2 windows in the year. Its good for the ticker knowing we can virtually ignore all transfer speculation till June 1st.
NRD. Hey up mate. How long you in Japan for? Missed that you were going. What you doing out there? Work or Holiday? Would love to go there. Only place like that I have been to is Seoul when on way to NZ and flights fucked up and stayed there overnight. What a fucking airport!
Morning fuck bags, how are we all on this fine drizzly mancunian morning?! I have a very good feeling about today!!!!
@ NRD – mate the medical team gets players AFTER they are injured, they do not CAUSE the injuries, the injuries are caused in training – which is intense and competitive at United – and in games.
I know people blame the medical team for injuries but that’s putting the cart before the horse. They treat injuries, not cause them. And anyone who thinks they are less effective than any oher medical team has no idea what they are talking about. Soft target to hit below the belt imo. Though ofcourse I apprecaiate you were saying that toungue in cheek.
ANYWAY – looking fwd to game tomorrow in California presently and disappointed Fox Sports do not show United games here. Looking forward to catching some live games in Dec. Can’t see us losing this one, Carrick in on form however Fletch is not. SAF may play Rooney in mid -4-5-1 to start.
NBI
How ya doing fella? Where in CA are you?
Also on a plus side in the economic gloom, if the Euro does break up, it will mean we have a stronger hand in the transfer market than Spain, in fact as the Euro falls, England and Sterling will look more attractive.
It also means if we buy players in Euros with buy out clauses we can get the for cheap this transfer window if the Euro continues to fall – it may even fall to half of Sterling in the next 12 months so that means even with our limited finances the value of the pound may effectively give us almost twice the transfer budget in Europe and in real terms we can match Euro wages much more easily.
@ RedHound – nice link mate thans for that.
@ MikeKelly12 – evening mate – I am good thanks, hope you are well. I am in a place called Newport Beach near LA. Here for work for a couple more weeks. Let me say the weather here is great, but if aliens came to California they would think no one lived here everyone is in cars or houses no one walks on the street, very odd and a little scary.
When your forehead is the size of a bowling bowl, I don’t think you can be a success anywhere…..
NBI
I’m good thanks. Very envious of you. I stayed in Newport beach when I was coaching over there many moons ago. My favourite place was Hermosa Beach, had a real beach bum feel to the place. Lived in San Francisco and coached all along the coast so no the place well. All it missed really was a bit of drizzle and Old Trafford, then I probably would have moved to the West Coast.
@ King Eric – Hello mate. Good to see you’re back on here. Know you’re going to be busy with the birth of your son etc in the future but don’t let the cunts on here drive you away. Happy Birthday as well. In Japan working mate, have connections here and just wanted to get the fuck away from England. Too much negativity from people who simutaneously backstab and gossip and I haven’t even begun chatting about what the birds are like!!!
Here till Feb then going back for Dads and bros birthday which conveniently fall either side of the vermin game. Then back out again till June which falls just a few days before the Stone Roses concert. Then see what happens from there. If anything at least it looks good on the CV that I worked in Japan rather than a no mark company where I’m just another cog and not a person.
@ NBI – LOL – Was just having banter with Costas mate. We’re the only ones that are on the same wavelength in regards to the medical team and injuries. Having said that not bothered about Ando’s injury. We may be left short in midfield but he’s been so bad since the chelski game that I really didn’t care when he did get injured. Although I’m sure we’ll read in the future that he’s been carrying the injury for a while.
NRD just wondering if you’re going to make it back in time for the Stoke game. Need u back to wind the Stoke fans who stray into East stand up.
Morning All
smartalex aka BOFA is back I see! Brilliant stuff, welcome back good friend, you’ve been missed…
King Eric – Enjoy your day pal and hopefully the lads will give you more reasons to celebrate… So is it 40 or 41 candles then? haha
Morning Reds,
I’ll never forget Obertan and Bebe listening to their iPods during a match. In my mind that’s just certain confirmation that you’re not a United player. I had willed them to do well up until then, and afterwards, but to a lesser extent. I thought if they don’t have the right attitude then they can quite happily leave with my blessing. Never was enthralled with the old turnip. He came in when Nani had that bad patch and to be fair to him, at the time he seemed like a viable replacement, probably only because we knew so little about him. He looked promising, but there’s a time where promising isn’t enough anymore. If they haven’t developed it into a much more mature and complete player, there’s only so much you can do. In some cases players have really come through. I remember I was at that 5-0 against Stoke where Danny scored his first United goal (what a belter that was) and him being a local lad and all I willed him to do well, never really came together, but he worked hard on loan and has come back a fantastic player. I don’t think Fergie ever saw that in Obertan, well obviously he did when he signed him but afterwards he must have thought “Christ, why on earth have I bought a turnip with moderate footballing ability.” I do wish Gabby all the best though, there’s no doubt he does have some skill and in the right environment he can flourish, but never at United. As long as he doesn’t score today. If he does I may have to take back what I said there and just call him a fucking french cunt.
@KingEric
Congratulations on the little one! Hope there’s no complications and he’s born healthy and a Red.
NRD
Great to know you’re enjoying your self my friend, best of luck
first time i saw obertan i thought this lad could be big….then micheal owen gave him the ball and he missed from 3 yards out…….it all went downhill from there…imagine if he had scored…
@King Eric
And it’s your birthday! Jesus Christ, Happy Birthday mate!
@bobbycharlie1968
To be fair to Bebe I don’t believe he was caught listening to his iPod, he was checking his phone but we only saw one clip so we can’t really judge if he was watching the match or playing with his phone all the time or he checked once and got unlucky with the tv footage
bobbycharlie1968
Always enjoy your posts and especially your rants…… I remember Danny’s goal v Stoke, it was indeed a hell of a strike.
dasilvatwins
Events could have unfolded differently, sort of like the movie Sliding Doors! hahaha However the ending would have been the same lol
@Wakey
Really? I could have sworn that he had headphones on. Either way Giggsy wasn’t best please with them. Neither was I if I’m honest. Although you could be right and he got unlucky.
@james21 I doubt ito mate I think my regular match going days are behind me for a while but will infiltrate this site to give you plenty of ammo to dish out to those inbred oatcake eating cunts.
@Cedars
Cheers pal, likewise I enjoy reading your posts as well, agree there should have been a Georgie Best thread, I was unlucky to not see him play during my lifetime, but having trawled through hours of archive footage I can say with confidence, the man was an absolute genius.
You’re all bunch of cunts! Call yourselves United fans? Leave Worf(sorryObertan) alone!
NRD – Touched for any ladies yet? Get you in there mate! Lol.
@cedars lol ah well good luck to the lad…
bobbycharlie1968
If the 68 refers to your birth year than I am one year older than you…. I have vague memories of watching Best in his last season with us, however he was no where near his glorious best, those years where the late 60′s
Willie
Bonjour mon amour, seems you had a good time last night my friend…… Cannot wait for kick off, just over three hours to go
Cedars – Very drunk last night. I was talking gibberish lol.
Hello all Reds!!
Just read The Times’ article on Ravel.Talks about the usual shit surrounding the lad but also goes on and says he’s been missing quite a few training sessions without any explanations.The club have tried everything like him training with the first team and mentor sessions with Mc Clair and Scholsey but to no avail.Another interesting thing it adds is that his contract is up in June and the club have not offered a new one as yet.
Any of the local lads please shed some light on this whole thing.Last I heard he had improved his behaviour and apart from that random twitter nonsense has been away from any sort of trouble.Also this whole contract thing worries me.
You were certainly enjoying your music, brilliant stuff….. Noticed that BOFA is back?
dafternoon RoM.
Costas -
“Not even Hulk Hogan and his 24 inch pythons could put it in a headlock.”
Brilliant!!
Err its match day, where on earth is everyone? Get typing you lazy buggers
Bobbiecharlie
I must echo Maro’s sentiments…. Always a good read your posts.
Cedars – how ya doing me Robbo loving chum? I’m off to the Gorse for a pre match pint. I’m trying a different pre match routine to try and change our luck. I’ll try n keep in touch on ROM, fuck all signal in OT though!!
Hope your charm works Monkey!
come ON UNITED
Mike
Will text you during the match, have a blast and as ever sing your lungs out
J u s t
w o k e n
u p
Afternoon United
(Don’t ask long day yesterday)
Wiilie
Obertan – Worf
@Costas
Let’s hope that today Obertan and Newcastle will realise that they have entered the Temple of Doom.
MG
Afternoon good friend…. Just woken up? Fair enough, I for one will not ask…….
2 hours to go fellas
Cedars
I will mate, banging out the classics. Hope I’ll be part of the majority this week and not the minority!!
I cant predict a team for today
Smalling returns..or .will Rio play 3 in a row then?
Will Jones play even though he’s started every game and internationals?
Will Fabio get his run in the team?
Will we continue with the in form carrick and getting there Fletch? While we have Giggs on the bench?
Park should start considering he was a sub on Tuesday
Young has also returned, we have Valencia and Nani aswell !
Rooney is fit ! Who will partner him? A Deadly Berba? Birthday boy Danny Welbeck ? Reliable Chico.
Can’t make a team without changing it! Here goes;
De Gea, Jones,Rio,Vida, Evra, Carrick,Giggs,Park,Nani,Rooney,Welbeck.
Mike
Have a warm Singha for me buddy……
Oh, Blackburn just conceded, fucking love it….. Send them buggers down to the Championship where they belong
Cedars
Will do pal, and a few in the gorse for good luck.
Come on you mighty REDS get stuck in and tear them Magpies to shreds…..
Mike, James21 and anyone else here going to the game…Have a blast fellas
Slow day on The ROM
What a bonus I have after celebrating victory, I have the chance to see RVP in action hahaha
Drooling
Afternoon Cedars!
Just woken up – and no woman in sight
It was just a very long day yesterday – kids in school were so naughty – got into a very interesting conversation with my teacher on how children don’t accept loss easily (got me thinking about some fans funnily enough!) and then their were some incidents that were out of hand – enough said about that the better.
Then the mother of all situations at home with my credit card company suffice to say long story but complaints division put the phone down on me and right now they phoned up – so as you know I have just given them the motherfucker of all rants and duly finished off with them – imbeciles the whole lot of them.
Anyway the night finished off well went to a do with the Doctors from my wife’s GP surgery – though I enjoyed it it hit midnight and by then I got so shattered that I slept 12 hours on top
As long as United win that should relieve yesterday.
19
happy birthday kingeric
so smartalex is back
got back from work (i fucking hate working on weekends) and realized that i can’t go watch the match . . came home realized that my net connection is fucked up. . only this phone internet
and now i have to put up with the pile of shit that some morons will spout once the game starts . .
and RIP best . . the best ever to kick a ball (a football that is
) he may not be with us anymore but his legacy Will remain forever !
@Notorious
That’s what I was saying yesterday. That there’s no point in looking forward to any transfer moves in January. Imo there’s no guarantee that we won’t get another injury crisis that will deplete us at CM, but Fergie feels that he’s covered there anyway. But you never know with the Boss’ transfer comments. He said that we would spend a lot on Ryan and Paul’s succesor’s. And then we didn’t buy anyone to replace Scholes and we bought Young even though Giggs is still active.
As for the medical team, tongue in cheek or not, they showed their brilliance once again. It only took us 3 weeks to find out what the fuck was wrong with Anderson. Plus, he went to a specialist in Portugal to look into the problem. I wonder why that happened when we have the best medical team in the biz… I never accused the medical team of the amount of injuries but dear me, ask them for a diagnosis on an injury and watch as the comedy ensues.
Of course at some point someone has to start asking questions about the amount of injuries this team is getting, but fat chance thats’ going to happen.
The ground is Old
Trafford the team is Manchester United a.k.a the Red Devils a.k.a the champions.
MG
You still at school pal?!
Cedars
Gorse warming up nicely!
Does anyone know of any links for the game this afternoon? Big game like this should be on TV..
United apparently planning £20M Bid for Real Madrid’s Sami Khedira
Team today: De Gea, Fabio, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand, Nani, Young, Giggs, Carrick, Hernandez, Rooney.
DDG, Fabio Rio Vidic Evra, Nani Carrick Giggs Young, Rooney and Pea
No Jones or Berbatov. Obertan starts for toon.
Macheda is on the bench!
Weather might be the toughest opponent today.
Andooo//
http://real-tv-sport.com/
Fletch?
Subs; Lindegaard, Evans, Smalling, Park, Valencia, Macheda, Gibson
MUFC : De Gea, Fabio, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand, Nani, Young, Giggs, Carrick, Hernandez, Rooney
Jones, Fletcher and Berba not even on the bench? Another virus in the squad?
We’re short on strikers now so no more injuries in that department please!
Rested.
Rested against the 4th team in the league? That’s a weird approach for the lack of a better term.
Tested
Thanks Moses.
Gutted no Berba thought his performance earnt him a start today but oh well, really wish Fergie would stop chopping and changing the line up so much; it cant be helping team chemistry on the pitch at all and i feel its one of the reasons we have these games were we get outplayed by lesser teams. The line up of the team midweek was spot on i thought, 4 – 2 – 3 – 1 for me is the best formation to play with the team we have.
Write Fergie a letter. He explain it better for you.
Mike
I bet it is!
MG
That is one heck of a night!
Cedars – Is that smartalex? too drunk to notice lol.
Better still, write ME a letter, you see I know shit
You know nothing!
Nah, I think I’ll wait for his post match interview and listen about the latest batch of injuries.
Oh Oh Blackburn 3 nil down….. Championship here they come…. League buying fake cunts
Willie – Was indeed BOFA
Costas
Guess we need that medical team at United to examine your head buddy! hahahaha
What a goal by Rochina, damn the guy does score screamers
MikeKelly12
Someone has to teach the new generation
Cedars
It really was mate
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Let’s go United!
The BIG news: OBERTAN STARTS. I repeat: OBERTAN STARTS.
I’m shitting it now.
@RedBlood: regarding Ravel, maybe the best thing for him right now is a run out or two in the first team. Some folks man-up pretty quickly when given responsibility, and maybe Ravel is one of them. It’s a risk but what’s there to lose? Ravel’s going to have to grow up sooner rather than later otherwise both he and the club are going to miss out on the talent he has.
As for today’s game, shame there’s no Berba or Park if the line ups reported above are correct. Regardless, all I want from today’s game are the three points to close the gap on City. I don’t care if we win ugly provided we are tight and don’t do anything particularly silly. We can save the entertainment for when the ship is more settled.
Andoo … where are you? In the US, it is on ESPN2, not Fox Soccer.
Surprised at the team selection. Despite the draw, the Benfica match was our best performance in some time. I thought Berba did enough, for sure. Well, lads, back after the match.
@Cedars
No thanks mate. They’ll probably diagnose it with stomach flu.
Rochina is a punk rocker.
Costas
You Greek piss taker! hahahahaha
Watching the 5 3 game. RVN was on fire!
Evra better watch out today.
No Jones. smalling back on the bench. no fletcher either. WOW.
More like foot in mouth, Costas.
Willie
Hahaha, misread that 5-3, thought you were talking about the game at the Bridge and RVP not RVN! Had me drooling for a second lol
That’s some jacket Danny Simpson is wearing.
We’ve got the team to beat these nobodies.
Glad to see the Carrick-Giggs partnership back in full effect. I predict a 2-0 win at the very least.
Cedars –
I predict a goal fest
I predict a riot!
I predict a…
Oh
Off to watch the match my friends….. As ever I never post nor read the blog during matches…
Get the fuck stuck in you mighty REDS…… Come ON UNITED
Anyone a link for the match?
Come on Reds! No toiling.
Come on United!
Gotta watch Ben Arfa. Tricky so and so.
Before I piss off. just got a text from a regular here telling me they were playing Best songs at OT….
Brilliant stuff
COME ON UNITED!!!!
Anyone a link or a site to get links off?
I have sopcast or canuse normal p2p
So am I the only one proudly watching Obi this season then? Tbf to him he’s been class, and I’d say he’s shut a few of the United faithful up already tbh – like those who said he wasn’t EPL standard. He’s already played his role in securing Newcastle’s flattering league position this season and you can’t ask for more, so well done lad! Shame it didn’t work out for us,, but based on his ability only a blind man couldn’t see he only needed more games.
Who knows whether Obi was ever “good enough” to force out Tony or Young, let alone Ballon dOr Nani? Eitherway I respect his decision to leave and play first team football as young players never fully progress without it. If he was still here though, he’d still have fans telling him he’s shit and he’ll never make it, blah blah fucking blah, so really glad he’s performing. I know Schadenfruade has many hoping he plays shit so they can be right about him. I just hope we defend well Pal, no need for me to dislike a former player if he doesn’t do a Hargreaves.
So he reckons he’ll ave a go at us? Based on his performances for Toon I think he has a very valid point. Fast, strong, decent crosser of the ball, and he’ll want to settle a score with his impatient United doubters. Add the fact that Newcastle have played good football this year, and Evra or Fabio will def have a game on their hands.
Sign him up Fergie? Rofl….
Good Day REDS!
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=130614&part=sports
Links for everyone
Djemba Ba looks a player… my word.
Ben Arfa
See Wazza is saying hello
ben arfa getting mad but i can understand why… rooney is being too aggressive there…
christ what a chance……
aimanunited…. just fighting fire with fire thats all…got to let them know you there
we played well so far but roo and chicha need to take the chances better…
aimanunited – if anything was wrong there it’s coloccini sitting on the ball.
Nani and Young need to step up.
Were going down here 1-0, I have an awful feeling
Carrick and Giggs twice lost the ball in our own half in under a minute there. Poor.
Fuck you Gabriel Obertan.
This is an awesome game….
carrick is our best player in the 1st half while nani and young doesn’t look any better than obertan
That was THE chance. Fabio Fernandez must have borrowed Obertan’s clown shoes for this game.
Oh Chicha, what’s going on with your finishing?
Same old same old. Not surprised at all. SMH.
The little pea looks out of sorts today….hope the hair-drier revives him
Blimey not so bad then playing away then…
Wait
Hanandez is the most frustrating player ever no technique he needs an alround game fast
Criminal sin using 2 same words in the same sentence
what’s wrong with hernandez today?
Chico might not have his scoring boots on ….yet….but at least he is getting chances
Take the first 10 minutes away, it’s much of the same. Can only get better! Need to quicken our play.
Hiya Holmes….
@dannysoya
SMH?
or….
Hiya Hiya
The weather isn’t exactly Mexican is it?
Chica will be fine the whole team needs a kick up the backside – fuck me and to think others consider wearing snoods in this weather to play better.
Need to do a lot better. Don’t know if this played any part in us loging our foot in the game, but I didn’t get the Nani-Young switch. I prefer the former on the right and the latter on the left.
It’s a deliberately slow pace at the moment and that doesn’t suit us going forward.
Shaking my head. LOL. pple ask me that lot. I thought it was popular.
What the fuck was Ben Arfa thinking? That he has suddenly grown huge balls. Fucking insanity for a second there. Kid should’ve been given a spanking.
Aside from our really poor finishing, nothing much to complain I am afraid. Carrick and Giggs have been solid with the former again demonstrating that he has found his best form. Nani is frustrating as usual with some breathtaking runs sans the final product. Young looks out of sorts. Rio was found off the pace a few moments here and there but otherwise defense has looked solid as was expected.
We need to get the goal ASAP. The longer it goes without that, the more anxious the crowd and the players are going to get.
Holmes Holmes….
Instead of tackling the issue of the No 10 for today following the midweek draw, it was Obertan abuse and yet here is is playing okay and our wingers not doing much themselves, Fred must be livid
Evra makes Ubertoon look like a good player.
How long is the fucking list of players who skinned him this season?
Playing fuck all for over a season now.
Watson I think we need to be on the ‘United goals Missing in Action’ case.
Afternoon Watson
We have a pair of tossers on the pitch that need replacing…put park & Tony on !
Does Chico have the Gout? Poor Poor Poor
Carrick is having to put up with a useless Rooney ahead of him.
Really Poor Stuff
Evra sure is shit ar defending as Chico is at crossing the ball. Obertan looks like fucking Thierry Henry.
SAF fix this non sense at Home !
Where is Welbeck,Berba,Fletch,Jones ? Saving them for Crystal Palace?
Carrick & Vida are the only players showing up today…the rest have collected their wages and are resting their souls at home and sent there useless bodies out on the pitch to make up the numbers.
I hope Im back at Full Time with nothing but compliments for our players….this is aweful to watch,sitting with family and even my mother & sister think Newcastle are the better team.
Not the best half by any standards and the worst thing is that this can be as close to our first team as it gets. Newcastle are working hard, but that hardly is an excuse. Slopy play should be cut out. We need to use wings more. We put them in danger several times from wings. Not sure what can be done though so can only have have faith that SAF and the boys will do it.
@dannysoya
I’ve never heard that one before
SMD! Shaking my dick.
SMH = Shka My Hips.
“what’s wrong with hernandez today?”
I’ll go with, he’s slipping on the rain slicked turf, needs different studs or something. Had a little slip on the shot that went over and then slipped bad on the pass there at the end of the half. Not sure why he didn’t give Fabio an option though other than he didn’t see the last defender back by the goalline and thought he’d be offside if he ran off the shoulder. Giggs flick would have been sublime though, good save by Krul. Donkey-ba looks about as useful as tits on a bull.
*Shake*
tonybee I would much prefer having close to no chances and scoring once then to have so many the past few games and score none.
@Willie, WMD – Not Weapons of Mass Destruction either.
fuck me Clint …..not enjoying it then…..
What exactly does Valencia need to do to start a game? I know he is one footed but at least he is very assertive in his play and can defend too when he loses the ball.
I though SMH was that milk powder you give babies…….
I think Papii is ranting
Let it out Papii let it out.
And here hear!
dannysoya….agree think either Nani or Young will get the bums rush early on 2nd half
@orez
I agree with that, it’s worrying that we can’t play better when it’s pretty much our best 11 out there.
Notice how Young’s set pieces are emulating Nani’s even more as each week passes? We are the only team that makes players forget how to take them.
Willie- LMDO! Laughing My Dick Off
chuckling to myself here. “what does Valencia have to do to get a game?” What does it take to for Berbatov to start a game. Lucky for him Rooney wasn’t fit during the week. That said i reckon Tony V could be thrown into the action for the next 45
Papii summed it up pretty well.
At least Berba will be fresh for Wednesday. We don’t need him out there today anyway.
see the rentboys are taking Mick Macarthy’s lot to the cleaners….. up 3 zip at HT
We need chuck norris to come in for chicharito in the second half!
Lets cut out the long balls already. We are also too careless with our passing today.
Anyone see obertan with the ronaldoesque pass before the half? Cmon already…
Nani, Young and Rooney have to improve. Not gelling at all, those 3. And as we all know, they’re our attacking outlet.
SMHLAMF
Shaking my head like a mother fucker!
Come on to fuck United!!!!!!!!!!
get the fuck in
LFNITA – Lets fuck newcastle in the ass
Oops Looks like it was a Rant….seriously I have my pants down screaming at T.V,
im kidding I just want us to win
Ice cold finish.
Wouldn’t be a classic Chicha goal if it looked like he meant it.
what fucking great effort from fABIO
Super finish from hernandez what a wonderful piece of skill from the lad. LOL.
Actually I think we have to do the opposite
I think we need spiritual guidance in the form of the Dalai Lama
Surely in the face of such provocation and genuine terror one must enlist the forces of true meditation and calmness to overcome such relentless pressure.
Fabio Fernandez knew nothing about that one.
Have we scored?
Much better from the lads, don’t care how it goes in…good awareness and persistence from Rooney.
I therefore conclude that enlightenment and the purpose of tranquility can only be reached by peaceful means.
Than you Dalai Lama for being my inspiration because as I wrote your name we scored
Truly you are my hero
Hernandez gets too many offsides.
that willierednut knows his stuff.
It can only get better! 
Bad technique from Young, almost like he hesitated to take that one. More urgency all around the squad now- good news!
Come on Ashley, you have to at least work the keeper there.
we are really cruising here but loads of wasteful chances gave me a heart attack…
Come SAF get Tony V on and take Nani off
We’re playing better now at least. Even if we’re still weak in the last third.
Take the tossers off seriously thats two games running they’ve been aweful…identical twattery on OT from those two….Watching Nani fuck about from 2007-10 was bad enough now we got two of them prancing around like Jedward on Viagra.
so that is why we paid so much for DeGea
Can I just say
What a save keeper keep it up son
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What a save! Fell asleep there. Again.
Papii:
Like Jedward on viagra.
De Gea is a SHOT STOPPER!!! Very instinctive save from Collocinis’ shot, we need a second to get this game out of reach. Oh my has he given it? A penalty or clean tackle from Rio…Wow it has been given!!! Horrible decision.
Not a penalty at all
Shocking
ref ……you is a cunt
what the fuck is this shit?
Nice one Ref – we deserved it
Clear penalty. Sigh.
Biggest screwjob since Montreal.
FUCK THE REF!!!
How much did the Shiekh pay you all?
Fkin joke, atleast wont have to hear about dzeko bein the last cunt to score at old trafford anymore
how the fuck did the linesman not see that…. ARFUR SHOULD BE BOOKED FOR FUCKING DIVING
We have to up the tempo now. You know, play like United for a change.
what a son of a bitch.
nowhere near a pen!
Hmmm, did Rio get the ball or not? From the first angle it looked like a clear penalty, but on an a different replay it looks like he got the ball.
Colbert says:
Clear penalty. Sigh.
YOU WATCHING THE SAME MATCH I am
Rio CLEARLY blocks the ball
got clearly the ball.
absolute joke of a decision.
This ref makes Dangerous Danny Davis look impartial. Cheating cunt!
Dont understand why the assistant refree always bottled us. Remember game against Sunderland at OT? The assistant also gave penalty against us bcause vidic’s handball, but the replay showed that was Sunderland’s players who touched the ball. Twat!
ben arfa must’ve been sucking the linesman dick during the halftime…
Chicharito needs to sit down with Berba to get tutoring on ‘how to pass’ the ball
Fucking no-mark linos always trying to make a name for themselves by guessing some big calls.
Well done mate. Enjoy League 2 for the next few weekends.
Cunt.
League Two? Ha. He’s done Bernstein and co proud.
get up you fucking cunt …your fault for trying to block the beast
As bad as a call it was these things happen, more than the refs I blame the players for not being clinical infront of goal. Ashley Young and Chicharito esp.
Is it just me? Or is that Jimmy Armfeild a complete and utter C**T for years ive listened to this C**T on 5Live but today hes doing my fuckin head right in, The TWAT!! sorry had my rant, tried to listen to MUTV but god bless him Mickey Thomas take the marbles out your mouth lad i cant understand a word fucking your saying
It was a clear penalty !
The ref blew the whistle, the assistant backed it, Bar put the ball on the spot, we conceded, clearly it was a penalty and we was clearly penalised. Therefore it was A CLEAR PENALTY.
Outrageous of you guys, If we scored more it wouldn’t matter if we was penalised, coz we would have been 19-0 up anyways…….Huh?
GET SAF OUT — BRING IN KK or RAFA or Gus Poyet !
for fuck sake…
ta ta wanker…
FUCK OFF GUTIERREZ YOU FUCKING CUNT!!! BEN ARFA YOU TIT.
I dont Blame the ref for his decisions….we played like tossers, you get treated like tossers….FUCKING DISGWACE !
How Nani ad Young have the honour of wearing the Utd kit is beyond belief? Jedward with Viagra with a dildo down their throat….how the fuck can anyone take them seriously AS footballers !!!
FUCKING HELL !!!!!
LOL Nani dropped like he’d been shot. Pressure mounting now, Krul has been immense for his side (to be fair Vida headed straight into him). Young and Nani are trying to make amends for dodgy decision making earlier on.
our finishing is shit but Krul has done a great job to keep them level…
Danny “still a red” Simpson denies us victory. Little cunt.
Can’t believe we haven’t scored….I can’t believe. Danny Simpson goal robber.
Red Card for Young PLEASE !
SAF take him off….or REF save us….send that tosser off !
Disgrace to the no.18….when scholes was off form he got himself sent off and saved us the trouble of criticising him….Young the Tosser stays on and helps Newcastle as much as possible.
SAF is STONED….where is Valencia and Park…Macheda…No Berba or Danny ?
Macheda’s playing. Why’re you trolling?
Fabio the daft prick pulls Demba back when Rio had practically already won the ball.
fabio you thick cunt ……………playing into their hands
Unbelievable.
I’d REALLY want to punch that assistant cunt!! Arrgghhh…!!!
Almost as if SAF forgot that he is allowed to make changes? WTF??
For fucks sake. Awful. King Slouch, Ashley Young, how the FUCK does he get on the teamsheet? Unless City completely lose the plot, we can kiss #20 goodbye.
How did we not score? We don’t deserve better i’m afraid. Fergie has a job to do.
That wasn’t offside either.
We’ve been diddled.
both linesman cost us today…..
FUCK!!!! SHIT!!!!! WOW!!!!!
wow Clint is that you? Amazing
DID ANYONE SEE WHAT I JUST SAW? HERNANDEZ WAS NOT OFFSIDE!! WHY THE FUCK HAS HE GIVEN AN OFFSIDE FOR THAT? JESUS CHRIST. SCREWJOB.
Manchester City Football Club, Premier League Champions 2011-2012.
Visualise it.
Ashley Young is not manchester united material.. pleaaasee send him back to Villa
If Rooney was still bald, he could have headed in the winner…
Christ, it was like listening to radio ABU on 5 live. Did you hear Jimmy Armfield on the penalty? It was like pulling teeth getting him to admit it was no pen.
Then on the disallowed goal at the end “it doesn’t matter if it was the right decision or not”. Can you believe that? Would he have said that if the decision was the other way?
Sack the biased old coot.
Our inability to score was fucking surreal.
Just a fucking bad day overall. The ref desicion and Newcastle luck on many occasions. This one I would say was one of those days at the same time we weren’t clynical. There were some average performars there even though we created so many chances. Very disappointed…
The most frustating match of the season. We created a lot of chances, we own the game and yet couldnt score goal (bar fluke hernandez’s goal)
what a massive waste!!
before this we played terribly but still won 1-0 but when we start to play better we only managed to draw (basel and newcastle). bad luck, super bad finishing…
I’d be really surprised if SAF said he was disappointed with the performance today. That is the main thing coming out of the Benfica and Newcastle games. Our overall performance has been much, much better no matter how much people complain. Oddly enough, it is the final finishing from our superior strikers that has let us down in both games. Had we finished the clear cut chances we had today, there would be no need to blame the referee or anybody else. As simple as that. These were not one or two half chances, but they were clear cut chances right in front of goal, and plenty at that. Our strikers really need to step up their game because from where I sat, the mid-field and defense “almost” did their jobs today.
I just lost the little belief I had in referees and football in general and football will never be the same again. I wonder what it will take to restore the faith in our referees after this shambles of a game.
This reminded me of the CL semi against Dortmund in 1997 when we created as many chances in the return leg at home but never scored a winner.
No pressure at all for City tomorrow who look likely to be 7 points ahead as we keep seeing other clubs catching us up in the table.
Shocking penno decision absolutely shocking. Having said that had enough chances to win a dozen football matches at the end if it wasn’t for good saves and poor finishing and a certain striker unable to stay onside. Deep SIGH.
City will win the league tomorrow with a victory can’t believe were out of it in November the last time it happened was 05 no way back if it goes to 9 points and what makes it worse is city are gona win it. But what’s killing me is fergie still won’t admit we have problems.
Carrick and Giggs centre mid ill take a draw and as long as we are blinded by no need to buy and youngsters coming through then we need to expect results like this. I’m not even pissed off I am completely appathetic if you don’t add and progress this is the result.
Even though the motherf*cking ref ruined it, I am proud of the team’s performance for the first time in quite some time…..We were really unlucky not to win it towards the end. But I must say that we should never have been in that situation, with Young, Rooney and Hernandez missing sitters before they equalized….
it is amazing how casually the offside decision at the end was accepted.
It was absolutely outrageous and none of these officials should referee again at any level.
Game was rigged. Great incentive now for the bitter bastards. I expect this place to go mental. Over…………………….re
Football is a wacky fucking game.
I’m hoping for a scouse win tomorrow….
It’s hard to disagree with Fred at 16:55 I am afraid.
Not for nothing, but now we have our own bad luck and the refs to deal with.
Great
I hope SAF doesn’t say anything because we know whats going to happen
This is bad this is how I have been feeling since yesterday and the match reflects the way I have been treated and shouldn’t have been
A result is a result so fuck it but it’s bollocks to suggest United get away with it – yet another classic case of bad refereeing/linesman and before anyone starts with putting your own chances away – well shit happens you can’t crucify everyone – a result on Tuesday I’ll take because it was our fault clearly – but today no fucking way.
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Might as well start realistically rethinking our expectations this season cuz if City win tomorrow ( and it looks VERY LIKELY) then we are screwed. Awesome Job Ref. Mike Jones excellent ref. SMH.
SMH. Spurs to easily overtake United over the next 3 to 4 games. Our attackers were off their game today…big time! Can’t rely on always winning by a meagre 1-0 all the time, leaves to much to margin of error- and that error came today by way of the blind bat with the yellow flag.
SIGH.
Wolfie, a mental meltdown.
unbelieveable we didn’t won.
At least we got what we deserved all the time.
Sort that fuck out SAF!
Please!
Got spurs on our ass! Deary me.
Can we, at least, agree that A.Young is not United material? From the Stoke game onwards he has been abysmal. How much space does this guy need?! More than 10 million for that, for fucks sake…
It’s easy for me to get angry with the linesmen for fucking up. At the same time, we let them off the hook time and time again. We had 4 great chances after Hernandez’s goal. The Sunderland game should have been a warning for us too. Don’t rely on a single goal lead because a linesman can fuck it up at any point. And that’s what happened today.
Too many water carriers. It’s plain to see, but either Fergie doesn’t have the cash or who he wants isn’t available. City have 5 match winners, we have Rooney. Like Fred said, visualise.
Great perfomance today we deserved to win. Won’t even talk about the ref otherwise I will get into a rant. Hernandez was level for me at the end. Cheated by both linesman (bet there was a few dinars in their backpockets).
I feel so so so so so so so sick all i can say absolutely disgrace how in God’s name is that even remotely a penalty how can somebody be so fucking inept an absolute fucking farce. We still need to buy SAF it is ESSENTIAL can’t keep deismissing it. I have that horrible horrible feeling in my stomach fucking disgraceful
Too early to say about Young, but he was quite average today. Such a shame to see Valencia rot on the bench for the entire game. Didn’t get why it took Fergie that long to make his substitutions either.
What amazes me is how little top-level officials follow the ball movement? All they are looking for is contact and the player going down. Fuck me, do these guys even know football. You look at the ball and it is moving tangentially to the direction in which the player is moving. THAT fucking clearly should suggest that the defender got a touch on the ball. Otherwise, the ball will move along with the player. And these guys are officiating top level football matches. Any 10 year old kid playing street football will know that.
i dun get people criticising nani. go fuck urself pls. i tot he was one of our better players today
People need to lay the fuck off Young. He was a post’s width away from being a hero – bet you’d say he was “united material” then (whatever the fuck that is).
He’s played with the same consistency as pretty much our entire squad this season and is being singled out just cos he’s a new signing.
We’d be out of the CL by now if it wasn’t for his header against Basel.
@Anti-Scouser agree with you 1000% that Ashley Young not manchester united material. Valencia and Park are better players.
We can’t blame the ref or linesman – thats what losers do – we had so many fuckin’ chances to win the game. How i wish we had C. Ronaldo in the team, he was (is) merciless in front of goal.
I’d just like to say can the press/opposition fans/ABUS put this myth to bed that the opposition doesn’t get penalties at OT. Next time an opposing supporter says that to me (in England) I’m going to punch him on the nose.
Costas is spot on, there are many fucked calls. Man Utd had plenty of time to get a goal. Newcastle pulled some great saves out their ass. Fred taking the ball off Vidas head. Shit happens. Now for a response of 5 straight wins.
We have a GREAT squad. Thank you Malcolm Glazer.
Arsenal look more likely than us to catch City at the moment. If City go 7 points clear tomorrow then I’m afraid it’s ALL OVER.
I agree with RedNeville.
That Armfield is a United hating cunt. He used to manage Scum don’t forget. Just another one of the pathetic ABU tossers they have on BBC always doing us down at every opportunity and that Murray twat of a commentator is no better.
Don’t they just love it when the referee and linesman stuff us! Bastards.
I still don’t get why we had to get Young for 17m this summer when we could have got him on a free next summer – if only we had the same expediency for bringing in centre midfielders…
@Zibbie
It’s simple for me. Did the linesman change the course of the game? He did. But we are playing at OT, against a 10 man team and we have 30 minutes to get a goal. If we can’t do that, then maybe we are not good enough for it. But that won’t be determined now. Time for some players’s ego to finally speak. Don;t fuck around with teams anymore. Put them to the sword from the off.
Costas – don’t worry about Tony V, he and Berbatron were rested ahead of the BIG ONE on Wednesday night.
Haven’t you heard? The Carling Cup is our priority now. 
Wow! We’re in the bottom half in goals conceded at home. We rock!
:S
Yeh let’s blame the glazers. We only spent £52.5m on players in the summer. They should have given us more. What are we, fucking Chelsea?
Don’t be kidding around, Fred. We need the Carling Cup. We might not win anything else!
@Fred
Just one correction from a Bret Hart fan mate. Today wasn’t reminiscent of Montreal. That honor still belongs to the Chelsea game at the Bridge 2 years ago.
Always liked Macheda who is fearless and despite coming on so late he nearly scored the winner. Good thing is that we played like champions again and showed what we can do even though we were unlucky in the end. I was sure Chicharito had scored the winner with seconds to go and is yet to see the rerun of it to know if he was offside or not.
Rio’s perfect timed tackle might have been his best of his career and the ref did not stand his ground and lets the assistant decide. Shows how weak he is and a ref must have authority.
We have loads to play for but it doesn’t feel like that and it is like someone has died right now. Don’t think I have ever been so gutted cause a win today was an absolute must and now the drama is over.
shitty won 3-1 against newcastle which shows the difference in finishing department between us and them… we still got chance to win the league but I admit that it’ll be extremely difficult if shitty are out of CL as they can focus solely on the league (europa league is not as tough)…
Their players might be mercenaries with attitude problem but in term of skills and footballing abilities, they are much better than ours… (I know a lot of you will never agree to this but its the fucking truth).
I don’t know whether new signing is the best solution for us but I trust Sir Alex will not let this shit to continue for a long time…
“People need to lay the fuck off Young. He was a post’s width away from being a hero – bet you’d say he was “united material” then (whatever the fuck that is).”
You need to sort your head mate. A. Young, king slouch, needs acres of space to shoot or cross, is slow, can’t dribble, isn’t strong.
So fuck off.
Im so fucking pissd off that words can’t fully describe how i feel, we’re hapless up front with amount of chances missed and united started getting desperate near the end, newcastle have a good solid defence and the minute they pulled a goal back, they were always gonna put men behind the ball, this draw will give city the boost that you don’t want them to have, they’ll go to liverpool and hammer them and the gap will get even bigger.
In fact, I dont WANT us to win anything, not while we’re playing un-United style football. I can take a loss if we play well or if the other time is just better than us (i.e. Barca). I just cannot digest us playing bad football.
@Fred
Fletcher will be needed for that one too I presume. And don’t forget that there’s also the FA cup.
Please please please let Michael Carrick’s form stay until the end of the season.
He’s our talisman for this season. Mark it!
Fuck Ashley Young. He missed like 3 million chances today. FUCK! I’m disgusted with United’s midfield!
@AntiScouser
I can’t articulate how glad I am that most of our fans are nothing like you.
Honestly speaking This was our one of the best performance of the season.
It was not our day. Carrick was great and so was Giggs.
Hernandez should really improve his overall game. Young should also improve his finishing.
But one player with whom I am very much disappointed is wayne Rooney. He has been poor for last few games. We need roo to fire otherwise we will have problem.
Unlucky but we will fight.
Believe
Im so fucking pissd off that words can’t fully describe how i feel, we’re hapless up front with amount of chances missed and united started getting desperate near the end, newcastle have a good solid defence and the minute they pulled a goal back, they were always gonna put men behind the ball, this draw will give city the boost that you don’t want them to have, they’ll go to liverpool and hammer them and the gap will get even bigger..
Shocked by the comments on here tbh. Yes, we should have been more than capable of beating them, but this today was not in anyway a bad performance. Our overall play was very good. Carrick and Giggs were superb. The defence was solid. A few mistakes made by Fabio, but he made very good interceptions and was really good going forward. Evra was immense in the second half, surprised that he got subbed off and Young or Nani who were both so annoyingly wasteful. Hernandez today was so frustrating, with the exception of his goal, nothing was going for him. Rooney forgot how to score goals. All the four attackers were absolutely shocking. Dribble all you want, but when the end product is so poor, something needs to be done. Would’ve liked to see Valencia involved towards the end. All these people calling for players heads need to chill. Today more than anything we saw a deadly combination of referee cock up and bad luck, rather than a horrible performance like some here are suggesting.
This is why I love United, always drama and amazing performances win, draw or lose. Never been boring and that is what football is about, entertaining and dramatic.
Visualise City as champs,if City win tomorrow it’s over,fuck me don’t know if that’s a windup or not.If it isn’t fucking sad and pathetic.To many idiots on here matchdays i’m out
@ Costas – We’re more than capable of putting teams to the sword. We’ve shown that this season. I was impressed with the chances we created at the end, (even if most of them were created by Giggs. That guy keeps on amazing me.) I’m sure with whats happened in the last 2 games only good will come out of it.
Even if cit-eh go 7 points ahead tomorrow thats fuck all at this stage. Must win game at Villa Park though next week. No doubt the brummie cunts will be treating it as a cup final and its a ground we’ve not done too well at recently but we are more than capable of winning.
Nani and Young (especially Young) may have been frustrating at times today but I can’t see how Tony V would have changed anything with that oh so deadly left foot of his.
7th draw for Newcastle at OT in the Premiership. They somehow find ways to frustrate us at home.
after playing mediocre we often tend to get the desired result.but today we played well for the last 30 mins desperately seeking for the goal.but some bad decisions on the referees part cost us the match.really gutted.was hernandez really offside in the last attempt?
According to the Beeb, we had 23 attempts on goal. At least we’re creating chances now, but it’s no good if we’ve lost our killer instinct.
Balaji may think that “the main thing” is that our performances are getting better but these are competitive games, not friendlies. We need to be fucking winning them, not using them as tune-up games.
While our “stars” are incrementally fine-tuning their performances game by game, City are ruthlessly crushing every bug in their path (last week they made short work of the team who stifled us today) and racing into what could soon be an unassailable lead.
You’ll be sadly missed, Wayne.
There’s no point blaming the ref, or in this case, the linesman and the ref. Sometimes shit happens. Until someone at the FA or FIFA gets their head on and agrees to technology being brought in to assist refs with tricky decisions then there’s always going to be a high risk of rough justices or worse. We had our chances to win it, but one way or another we didn’t take them.
As an overall team performance it was probably better than some of our recent EPL games. Even so, some of our key players were pretty ordinary today. Newcastle set themselves up well defensively from the off and pretty much deserved the draw. I’m more worried about the teams that take the game to us. Whatever. If you can’t kill off 10 men you don’t really deserve three points.Let’s just hope City screw up their next game somehow.
Another concern is the late timing of our substitutions – not specifically who the subs were – that’s another matter. There seems little point in bringing subs on with say 3 or 4 minutes to go, particularly upfront, and then hoping for miracles from them. Not every player’s an Ole – it reeks of trying to nick something at the death (which in itself is fair enough I guess) as opposed to trying to change the play.
@kanchelskis
I can’t argue with unintelligent, emotional, tactically illiterate trolls like yourself.
Either use arguments, or fuck off.
I can’t believe that SAF is satisfied with such a mediocre tea,. We are WEAK in midfield. We have no chance at winning the CL, and it seems that we will lose the PL to shitty
Hate to say it but our most inconsistent in front of goal today was Hernandez. Between Nani, Young and Fabio in the first half he was put through clean on goal more than once. Not blaming our draw on him btw, the officials lost us the 2 points, just offering BALANCE against these criticisms of Young and Nani on this page. When you look at how many times the ball was successfully crossed into the box, or successfully slipped between their back four, you have to question our low shots on goal total. Is that our wingers fault? If Rooney is playing deep in midfield is it his fault? True, Nani and Young weren’t on world class fire today, but seeing as they are human and not CPU they don’t have to be world bloody class for 90 mins every fucking game do they? Bottom line the ball was sufficiently played into Newcastle’s final third, we just didn’t put it in the back of their net, its that simple. For example, Young basically found Hernandez with an open goal right before half time, and just before that Nani slid him through one on one. Its really not our wingers fault that we weren’t at least 2-nil up on 45 mins. Imo, placing an open goal on a plate at least once a match is a fair minimum level of expectation, and both wingers did that within the first half FFS. Really wonder what match you lot are watching some times.
Ask yourselves, who left the pitch most disappointed with their own performance today? None of our attacking players were particularly brilliant today, but Hernandez could of had a hat trick due to the delivery he received from either flank, and he knows it. Who had more clear chances to score than Hernandez People slagging of Nani and Young but ignoring our brilliant Mexican’s wasteful shooting today haven’t got a clue. Also, not sure how some think this draw means we’ve lost our title. We’re yet to hit form, and if City stay top all season then we clearly don’t deserve to win it this year do we? I can’t see City lasting the Christmas period anyway to be blunt, just like I couldn’t see them progressing in Europe. Its easy to get to the top but once you get there, then what? They have no idea what staying on top of the pile entails.
Final thought, I’ll happily enough take a draw against a team that has the second best defensive record this season and has scored in every game thus far. But the officials need punishing, wtf was the linesman up to giving Demba Ba a free shot at goal. Very dodgy decision.
Right, im off to mull over this draw
Laters.
City BANG ON favourites for that title now.
Not our day….just hope we dont have to say the same of our season….too angry at the moment to think, let alone, write coherently…
Yes there was a shocking penalty decision but for me if u are gifted with that many chances and still fail to capitalise then you really have yourself to blame.
That said, this is football, and in my opinion this performace was absolutely fantastic bar Ashley young and chicharito for most of the game. The past two performances I have seen from united have reinstilled that excitement n zest I felt at the start of the season.
I have said this before but its not always about the result. Well not for me. Playing well and creating so many opportunities against a side that came in with “the best defensive record in the league” means there is still much to look forward to.
I’m not in the least bit concerned about city. Even of they win. I was impressed with the attitude in this game.
Kanchelskis – When we desperately need a goal at home to Newcastle and the best super-subs we can muster are Kiko Macheda and Chris Smalling, I don’t think you can say our squad is in rude health.
but i am really disappointed with our mentality sometimes.why is that when we concede we start showing the urgency?we were literally invisible in the first half.if it wasnt for the goal we shouldnt have played like the way we did at the 2nd.and i didnt get the nani young switch.nani is far better in right than he is in left.
we need someone who is brilliant consistently.
@Notorious
I’ll wait to see that over the next stretch of games. Today Newcastle allowed us space after Jonas saw red. I was impressed with our attacking play immediately after our goal though. And you could say that the team showed glimpses of dominating last Tuesday. But again, something went horribly wrong at the back and it threw us off.
Don’t know how well Valencia would have played tbh, but I feel that the team needed some new faces sooner just to give us something different. That’s why I was wondering why Kiko and Valencia (and maybe even Gibson for his shooting) didn’t come on sooner. As for the Smalling sub, that must have been piss take. There wasn’t even time for a high ball at that point.
I agree about Giggsy. Probably our most threatening winger out there. Which is a compliment to him (38 in 2 days), but also quite depressing when you think about it.
Fred:
You really didn’t watch the CIty – Newcastle game, did you?
Don’t panic..
i believe what we have lacked and what we still lack is a talisman. someone who is able to rally and inspire the troops when the chips are down. If Rooney has an off game we are fucked. if United want to be feared again will need to break the bank this time around, none of this 15 million pound Young stuff im talking 40 to 50 million pound range players.
“People slagging of Nani and Young but ignoring our brilliant Mexican’s wasteful shooting today haven’t got a clue”
Vehemently disagree. Chico was far from brilliant today but is a relatively reliable player. One of the finest instictive goal poachers in the world. Young, on the other hand, is small, weak, needs acres of space to cross or shoot, can’t dribble and isn’t tactically astute.
Unlucky result but great second half. No complains there. Rooney needs to find his form… gutted with score not with performance. Honestly lads don’t think we’ll win it this season. Definitely next…
You know what every club will play against united like its their cup final. Newcastle played like that. Look how they played against city last week. They gifted them 3 points. Yeah I agree city have better squad but I feel every club will give their 100% against us.
I strongly believe we can win the league if we keep a stabled line up. Rooney should fire Like RVP is firing for arsenal.
Finishing second or third does not hurt us but its that City will win the league makes our blood boil. But guys we have to accept the fact that any club that spends 300 millions will become strong. Hell if wigan spends 200 milions and buys quality players even they would challenge for the tittle. Now every club are spending so i believe City are just short term club. Even if they win 2 tittles in a row they still won’t have any strong history.
I believe this season could be blessing in disguise for united. Who knows glazers may quit united after the season.
when young joined i was sceptical about him and my opinion hasn’t changed, there’s a big difference in pressure between playing for villa and united but the whole team is to blame for this shambolic performance, an inability to kill teams off is the problem, newcastle have players up front capable creating something, they did against city but the blue bastards had a higher goal margin due to clinical finishing something we can only dream of at the moment.
Its funny how football can influence your emotion, its demoralising.
Ash makes a good point about Newcastle upping their game agains us. If Simpson pulls off another goal line save like that this season, then I’m shaving my head. That was Baresi stuff there.
The points that won the PL last year just won’t cut it this year. Right now Shity looks good. Begin the front runner is new to them. If they miss out the CL final 16? How will that huge squad react. SAF has a plan. When I became a Man Utd fan. In 2003/2004 people were calling for SAF head. He saw Rooney and CR7 as the future. He said good by to Becks, Ruud and Keano. 2 years in they start a run of, 4 of 5 PL titles 1 CL title and 2 CL runner-ups.
He is retooling for 2 years from now. Rooney in his prime at 26 1/2 with in 18 months 4 to 5 new players and 3 to 5 promoted players with some to retire and some sold. This will be the team for the next 5 year run.
Waiting for a snide remark Fred you didn’t disappoint me,don’t care if i’m missed or not,one thing i won’t be doing is visualising a team i hate wiining the prem and admitting defeat with 20 odd games left.
Alot of your posts are negative Fred either with sly digs about players you don’t like or the Glaziers,then this kind of bollocks about City winning the prem
One positive is that Rooney didn’t try to chip their keeper today, since I think that is one of the reasons he hasn’t scored from open play in Costas knows how long…
cedars must be wishing we have a certain dutchman on our team now.
sadly our key attacking players are inconsistent…
today midfielders and wingers are not an issue but our strikers.
Welcome back!
ah well i guess it can’t be helped..Apparently its over. I’ll leave the to the experts. As per today’s match. The fire was missing and goodness it showed. I really don’t know why Berbatov and Fletcher weren’t starters today.
Rooney playing as a 10 is as bad as opponents moaning of Berbatov’s finishing. The boy is no No10, bless him he tries but just doesn’t cut it for me. The wingers have had better days thats for sure.
These last few games have only showed there’s not much wrong with the defense, Midfield or the attack. Our set up at the moment i feel is what’s got holes in them. SAF may be the god father and 25 years attest to that but i can’t help but feel we’re missing a couple of beats here. I was going to delve into a tactical expose but whats the point, players aren’t riding high on form and we have no clue what our best 11 looks like if it was shown to us. Back drawing board i guess
We are not going to win the title?! What the hell happened here? All this negativity at this point is stupid. Being critical is okay, but all these those ‘fans’ reaching, who would happily blame ONE player for the TEAMS failure to score just baffle me.
@Passe
Lol. It’s too long. I noticed what you said too. But once again, I didn’t see many clear cut chances fall his way either. Plenty of frustration too. It looks like he’s trying to figure out where he has to play.
Chico is a poacher – as long as he scores he’s doing his job. Chico scored today so he delivered on that. Sure, other aspects of his game need to improve a bit. However, I look to the other players around him, up front on the wings or in midfield, to add wider variety and dimension to our attacking play. That is their jobs. As long as Chico scores I’m happy. Just keep feeding him chances.
I don’t know what the fuck does Berba needs to do to get a starting berth. He performed well against Benfica but today not even in the subs bench. FUCK!
Wayneyboy, visualising City winning the title will prepare you for when it actually happens. That way it won’t be quite as traumatising. That’s what I’m doing.
For our players, visualising City as Champions might wake them out of this stupor and make them more determined not to surrender their title quite so meekly. They’re probably more concerned about their Bentleys and Aston Martins though.
im sorry to keep on ranting but im just frustated with the teams recent performances. How many teams can you say now fear to play United? for fucks sake Basel think they have a chance against our team.. this shit is depressing..ok im done with my rants.
Bye Bye Premier League + Campeones League
Hello Carling Cup, FA Cup, Europa League !
Sell Ferdiand & Evra terrible players, the others can improve, they cannot.
Sir Alex needs to bring some spanish slickness to this team. Only David De Gea was aware of what was going on,
Buy; Jordi Alba, Javi Martinez for slickness. Lassana Diarra has always been fantastic, or buy something like Seydou Keita,
Kruul had a massive game but we really should be claiming 3 pts.. The Rooney-Chicharito partnership isnt working at all. Gutted… Two wasted points.
excuse me… a carling cup this season isn’t that bad right?
Passe – no mate, I was watching our game that day. What happened, did City drop two points and then whinge about a dodgy penalty costing them what would have been a glorious 1-0 win over the mid-table team?
red nation, who need those players?
we already have morrison, pogba, cleverley, diouf, bebe, fryers, tunnicliffe and lots more…
they are a world class youngsters remind you…
Costas:
Yes, there wasn’t that many today, but like you said he has looked frustrated for many games now.
Granted Hernandez wasn’t at his best today. But, and there’s always a but, where would be without his goals this season? Got us back on terms at Anfield. Scored winners at Everton and Swansea. Scored our goal against Newcastle. That’s 8 points gained. I know everyone is down, but lets not get fucking carried away, eh? Liverpool could beat city tomorrow. That will be a gap of 4 points. We can close that.
The biggest worry for me is that if you put yourself in the manager’s shoes, you don’t know what problem needs fixing exactly. I mean, over the course of this season we’ve seen different areas of our game suffer. Whether it’s injuries, defending, playing a settled team and now apparently, misfiring in front of goals. Imo the team is still not in good form and we’re trying to regain it game after game. But you have to hope that we will get there before it’s too late.
@Costas
Simpson will never do that again. He, Oberton wanted to prove to us that they were good. Same when we play sunderland they play like their life is on stake.
It frustrates me but it also makes me proud that man united are best. I am very happy with our attacking football for the last 2 games . It has improved. Our defence has improved. De gea is an awessome keeper. Carrick is back to his best (Hope so he continues this ). Chicho is scoring goals.
Look at closely we are heading in right direction. This is a transitional season for us. Even if we buy players in Jan we will take time to settle as a unit. I hope we win the FA CUP AND carling cup.
Lets give our 100% in League and Champs league and then see what happens.
Sir alex will play a very important role this season. I believe he should build for the future. Happy that macheda came on and played a few mins. Lad is talented. Send him to loan in jan.
Dont give a flying fuck what Shitty do and sick of hearing people going on about them doing this or the other!! People are starting to sound like fucking Shitty fans, obsessed with the other Manchester team!!
Fact is we have been stumbling through for the last few seasons and the only reason we have put up with it is that we have managed to win silverware. It has been and still is blatantly obvious that our midfield is not good enough, fantastic at the start but now Clev’s and Ando are out it has gone back to a unimaginative, uninspiring mess!! Either bring through the Kids or buy some players!! until we do I worry, coz SAF (no matter how much I love him) has built an empire but is being too stubborn to except that he needs to freshen the centre of midfield!! There is no leader or creator and its damaging us and making things difficult!! Unless we make changes I can see transfer requests starting to be made, horrible thought but its not like it hasnt happened before is it!!
Well, what can i say, my take on the game will probably sound insane but honestly, i repeat honestly, i’d give almost everyone a nine out of ten on this performance. And Carrick mate, i’d take a lashing for all the blame i’ve put on you, absolutely fantastic today. Make no mistake, Manchester United is back, the Manchester United of August is back, and please Ferguson keep playing that squad, the way Rooney, Ashley Young, Nani and Chicharito to a lesser extent interchanged today was amazing to see. The midfield dominated and Newcastle were restricted to very few chances. The defense was brilliant and overall, we look strong right now.
Obviously, there’s a “but” as you’d expect.
-The Defence is back, this would have been the 5th clean sheet on the trot but for that @#$%!!!…
-The midfield, especially in light of yesterday’s thread was amazing. For me that Combination is great, and more of that Giggs!
-The Strikers have forgotten how to score. I’ll repeat that for dramatic effect,
The STRIKERS HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO SCORE
And that Newcastle keeper took some illegal shit before the match.
Overall, as you can imagine am a firm believer in fate and when Macheda came on i knew he would score and lo and behold he fluffed a great chance, so when we had one attack left, that we couldnt mess up, and Chicharito put it in, somehow i found myself standing on top of a high table screaming, and everyone around me was screaming gleefully , problem was it was the arsenal fans screaming gleefully and it hit me that something was terribly wrong. Yep, offside it was so i climbed back down and stopped looking like a fool. This game reminded me of that ghana game in the world cup when Suarex did his thing, after that game i realized when you got so many ridiculously good chances and you dont put them away, the football gods wont have it. So the draw wasnt such a hella blow. We just need Liverpool to do us a favour tomorrow.
But Overall, big positive is that MANCHESTER UNITED IS BACK, it just has scoring amnesia
AntiScouser says:
Vehemently disagree. Chico was far from brilliant today but is a relatively reliable player. One of the finest instictive goal poachers in the world. Young, on the other hand, is small, weak, needs acres of space to cross or shoot, can’t dribble and isn’t tactically astute.
@ AntiScouser – my point you quoted wasn’t a question of consistency at all. Im talking about one game that happened TODAY, and today Hernandez was most wasteful in front of goal, end of. While leading the line for 90 mins he received the most delivery and took the most shots, but minus the Simpson clearance most of them were poor and off target and his only goal was pure luck. Beyond that, Hernandez scuffed and missed a lot of very good chances created by Fabio, Evra, Young and Nani.
BUT thats only today though, and my opinion of his performance today doesn’t change my thoughts on his first season nor my hopes for his next game. Hernandez is still class, he was just very very wasteful today. People can think what they want, but our widemen created far more opportunities than our single flukey goal suggests.
And your welcome to your opinion on Young btw, although judging from his goal and assist record for the last five years he’s been better in EPL than any midfielder we’ve had since Ronaldo. You mentioned consistency, the only midfielder of any nationality in the league any where near Young in terms of goals and assists is Lampard, and that says it all. Young is a class player with two good feet, and nobody was complaining when he put two absolute beauties past Arsenal. His last two odd games after an injury hardly change the last 5-6 years of his career do they? (FFS)
Sell everyone. Some real drama queens.
Willie – I think complacency and overconfidence are the only thing that can stop City beating the Scouse cunts tomorrow. Definitely a big game for us. From what we saw of them at Old Trafford though, City certainly are ruthless.
Fred, you just have to watch the highlights to see that Newcastle was about as wasteful in front of goal as we were today and could easily have got a draw from the game. I guess I like to make my own opinion of games insted of taking what the rags post in their match reports as gospel.
Limping towards January window but pointless we’re not buying it will disturb the cash pile.and as some on here constantly say there is nobody better than what we already have.Hah
I agree with AntiScouser
Ashley Young was not even Villa’s best player. He’s a small time player. He’s Nani without the left foot.Nani without the creativity, Nani without the brain, Nani without the skill.
Basically Nani in 2007-09.Difference is Young is 26 and still rubbish. Waste of money. Short term fix for Giggs turning Central mid me thinks. Chicharioto played bad but he deserves no booting for his efforts whereas Young does.
He was our most wasteful after Chicharioto, but he does’t track back,defend,create or anything. Poor mans Joe Cole, if anything.
We won’t win carling cup, city have that wrapped up.
Basel will KO us
FA Cup is rigged.
The prem is cities to lose.
We should be dicking teams like this, and causing the other big teams trouble as we did at the start of the season!! Not fucking stumbling!!
Can’t blame the ref these things will happen we had more than enough chances to win it. Our midfield is to blame not for failing or being shit as they are not, they are just not world class and I won’t have anyone tell me otherwise. We are distinctly average in the middle of the park.
Passe – the record books show that City beat them 3-1 and that we drew with them 1-1. Hopefully the “coulda, woulda, shoulda” trophy isn’t the only thing we lift in May.
If you think you’ll be a pure poacher lacking an all round game and feel you’ll survive at the highest level for a long time then you’re sadly mistaken.
The very best strikers have always had some trick up their sleeves, they may not score but they can create, hernandez needs to improve massively on this part, his first touch isnt great, if you have a great first touch then you give yourself that extra yard to punish defenders.
Hernandez seems to wanna rely on getting behind the defenders which he is very good at but some teams defend deep, then as a striker you have to try and link up. i’m not sure this are hernandez strongest points, can he be coached to have all these attributes? i’m not sure but with hardwork and dedication then maybe.
Today, he was poor up front and his finishing which can be relied on wasn’t there, the whole team’s ability to kill teams off is non-existent, if we don’t improve then expect better teams to punish us.
I forgot to add, we’ve been recovering from the City game in phases, kept the clean sheets, did the 1-0 wins, cautious, and today it culminated in us having more chances than i dont know in how many games combined, so dont be downcast, expect a thrashing for whoever we play next.
Oh, and that Ref just ruined his career.
Gee and G12G0 – agree with both comments.
We created quite a bit today, so a draw after being so wasteful in front of goal is frustrating. Having said that, pointing out which player had the clearest opportunities to score for us doesn’t denote blaming one player does it? Thats just telling it how it is. If I had to blame anybody I’d blame the linesman, but as far as United are concerned only one of our players could’ve had a hat-trick from the chances put on a plate for him, and thats not even counting the header he had cleared…
Oh well, better than losing I suppose. Sidenote: I reckon theres a few trolls on here today, you lads play nice! Off for real now.
One of the best displays I’ve seen from us this season! Carrick n Giggs were excellent. Evra and Vidic were awesome. It’s just a shame we cant all fire on all cylinders at the same time. Ridiculous that we missed as many chances as we did, not really good enough, but at least we created them. Someone noted that City won 3-1 last week which shows the difference in finishing. No mate, it shows the difference in officials! They got 2 pens, we conceded one. Saw it clear as day, nobody appealed, we were all ready for a corner! How could he be 100% sure when it wasn’t a pen. That’s called cheating. Didn’t see the off side at the end as it was up the other end but someone has got to tell Chico to stop straying off side!
“sadly our key attacking players are inconsistent…
today midfielders and wingers are not an issue but our strikers.”
Compartmentalization. We are heavy on it and for me its a major worry. Few weeks ago it was the the defense, then midfield, then defense and now its the attack. Injuries have played their part but so as the gaffer. Right from the off there’s been a stark line drawn between defense, midfield and attack. We simply not playing as a team. I really don’t get why Fletcher and Berbs didn’t start today. Are they injured? Does anyone have an idea? And why put Macheda on the bench?
This is no knee jerk reaction but Morrison surely was a better choice, simply because of the the type of player he is. We had 2 players coming back from injury and thrust straight into the action. Why? When we had 2 of the best 4 performers midweek out of the team, with no spark on the bench. Valencia has been equally as frustrating as Nani. I don’t care if he’s built as an ox -as it seems to thrill some here but if a footballer playing as a winger and a major outlet, does fuck all with his left leg other than stand on it then people shouldn’t be so surprised he’s on the bench.
Say this till i’m blue in the face. WR is no No.10 he should not the player to build things round or asked to drive the team. Little by little we will start to realize also that wing play as a sole means of attacking our opponents will begin to hinder us. Why were Newcastle set up almost perfectly defensively – bar one ore two incidents towards the end? Because they knew where everything was coming from. I hope it doesn’t look like pointing fingers but i stand by my rational. Our set up is dead wrong
Costas – the big question many should ask themselves is? who have united really signed since we sold ronaldo who have united bought that has really strengthened the squad? look through the names
valencia obertan owen smallen hernandez bebe young jones DDG
I would say smallen jones and at times hernandez have, but in reality we have not bought any outstanding players that would strengthen key area’s, for me its not been good enough at all for me and the failure to sign some outstanding players looks like will cost united the title in may, especially with this value for money era we are living with since 2009
Ferguson:
“If we play like this every week I’ll be delighted.”
RedHound – we play Villa away next. FWIW, I think we’ll scrape a win.
For a lineman decision, we wouldn’t be complaining. Furthermore, all our attackers were wasteful. Not just pea. At least his recent scoring rate is good. Can’t say the same, for the rest of our players. Danny Simpson was blessed. Never seen a clearance like that.
@RedHound
I agree, the performance today was really good- but don’t think the 4 attackers deserve a 9.
‘somehow i found myself standing on top of a high table screaming, and everyone around me was screaming gleefully , problem was it was the arsenal fans screaming gleefully and it hit me that something was terribly wrong’
^ Genius. Despite the circumstances, that actually made me laugh. lol
LOL @ poor mans Joe Cole – just saw that after pressing submit, fuck me that made me laugh.
RedNation your on crack bruv.
Good to see fans giving up on the league in November. Thank fuck our players haven’t got the same mentality as some fuck witts on here.
Wow shit has hit the fan here!
FITB – you are right mate. That’s why I brought the Glazers up. The kind of players Fergie would love to have been able to call on with ten minutes to go today: Villa, Benzema, Ozil, Nasri. The kind of players he was able to call on: Macheda and Smalling.
Dare i say we as fans refrain from referring to some “other” teams as boring and screaming the house down when they’re mentioned, even as a passing comment. Till we sort our shit out
@Mikekelly12
I absolutely, fully agree with you, if we had won the game, it’d be a bit bright around here but heck we drew. And Vidic and Ferdy are our best defensive partnership
Sell Hernandez, buy Ba!!
Just struck me – what would Cedras have to say about sheep shaggers and Ba? You know, Ba Ba…
TBH, we have been struggling in United Terms for the last 2-3 season, since we lost the CL in 2009.
Nothing new, the manager has swept it underneath the carpet while we ride the City and Barca carosel nowadays.
MikeKelly – spot on pal. You only need to look at the resolve our lads showed when Evans was sent off against City. They did us proud that day.
What’s the deal with putting in Macheda in the 87th minute?! It was ridiculous. Our strikers weren’t aware of others in the final 10 yards in front of the goal. Too many wasted chances. I was delighted to see us pressing forward and not keeping the ball oscillating from one end of the half line to the other. Full marks to the Newcastle defence. They stuck in and denied us atleast 8 sure goals. For the rest, our strikers messed it up.
Young was rubbish in the match vs Benefica, and didn’t improve significantly. He’s way too much of a push over, and gets hustled off the ball too easily.
Berbatov deserves better. SAF has no right to treat him this way.
Bottom line inspite of what i’ve said above – Absolutely loved our overall performance tonight. I daresay our resurgence begins!
In other news, Big Phil Jones has bought a new Baby Bentley with 30 inch rims. Top boy.
Fred
You are so knowledgable! You should have your own show on MCTV.
City will win the league tomorrow? FUCK. Didnt know we already finish our season in November. Some of so called ‘Uniteds fan’ are really pathetic. If city win over liverpool tomorrow, SO’ WHAT? We’ve been in this situation for many times. Keep the FAITH or you can go fuck yourself!!
So, that’s the gimps, Young, Rooney, pea mentioned so far? What, no room for berba and Carrick in the scapegoat club?
Shock horror!
United need a CM! No way man? Are you sure? Fucking hell.
Never mind going over the same shit every fucking game! the players out there currently, need to up their performance. Agree with Gee, the great man is stubborn. He won’t listen to anyone, on buying players. We have a very good squad. We could do with another midfielder. Most United fans know this. Banging our heads every week, does no good. Get behind the lads! This league is far from over. :twister: No matter what Fred says.
Are you some kind of jealous, fred?
Jealous of who?
Finally some sanity on here. Good to see some posters not giving cit-eh a reacharound like some on here. We’re not even half way into the season yet! Its all well and good comparing results at this stage of the season but like previous have said. Playing United is a cup final for every team.
@ Costas. I’d have to agree about say the way Giggs plays is more depressing, its ridiculous how a 38 year old can be so consistently awesome yet others younger than him are not.
@Giggs12Gerrard0 – I don’t think there will be anyone on here who disagree with the comment on how our centre midfield isn’t world class. What can we do? The manager has a self imposed transfer embargo at least once a season so this season is a write off in that department. It seems that we’re satisfied in just doing the bare minimum in those positions and that just isn’t good enough.
I was peeved Berba wasn’t in the squad today, however Fergie made the right call there. The backlash would have been horrendous had he played a solitary second today. The fact we have some people slating the introduction of Macheda today when Owen and Welbeck are injured whilst having their equivocal disdain towards Berbatov is quite simply farcial? Make up your minds!!!
That should have been twisted? I’ve lost all 6 marbles!
He’s just a jealous guy.
Can someone tell me if Chicharito was offside or not at the end?
I think that is a more important issue than the penalty that was wrongly given. Have to watch the rerun of the game but that is hours away.
My feeling now is that the entertainment was great and I have seen a fantastic game which was the most exciting one we’ve been in all season.
Maybe it is time to have another real go at the FA Cup this season.
Rio on Twitter : “All I can say is WOW…..we should have scored at least 6 today. I don’t want to go into the penalty decision or I’ll get fined”
Ferguson : ” I wont say what i think of the officials because the FA might fine me”
Pardew says in press conference after game that the City game helped them and he must be right because that was one hell of a preparation before going to OT.
@mikekelly
Mate fans are allowed to be dissapointed and able to discuss our ability to win the league. You say Carrick and Giggs were excellent but for me that there lies the issue they were excellent and did what? They offered nothing going forwar
I also don’t understand all this negative thinking. Let’s get Uri Geller on the board – ‘come on Uri bend us some spoons’ let’s get some positive energy going – maybe we could all get together and chant a mantra before the game – light some joss sticks or something.
City’s lead in the table would just evaporate.
@Willie: No, willie, he’s just a beautiful boy:)
LMFAO
@Red Neville: Don’t know about joss sticks, but I can help with a spliff. Brings Instant Karma every time
Maybe I’m playing mind games…
It’s only fair for people to feel frustrated in their own way, shit happens and people say things they don’t mean, you’ll get balanced views, you’ll get pessimistic views and positive ones (not much is positive right now). in a few days we’ll all calm down and then march on as usualj, but today has fucked my weekend up, truly has.
LOL Jeet. Whatever gets you thru the night.
Anyone dare say that we won’t be 10 points after City when we have played Villa and they have played Norwich next weekend?
Samuel – I feel for you man, I really do.
Sorry pressed submit to early.
They offered nothing going forward and I really rate both but collectively in the centre we are to average. It’s ok saying were still in the league but last year we dropped 2 points all season ay home and never looked in danger this year is a different story. We are so close to dominating but we fall short in midfield and everyone knows it.
Fred = Mourinho
Master of the……….
Mourinho? Ah, our next manager! He’s bringing Ronaldo and Ozil with him too.
@Fred: After such a cunting display from the ref, tonight I’ll need a little help from my friends, mate
shocked by some of the comments..we all know that every undesired result ends in the form of carrick being slagged of but when the man had played at his very best intercepting and did much of the work which evra didnt do,people still goes on and on about him.i wont rate gigs very good tonight as he had sloppy moments like evra.
@FITB
I’ll beg to differ a bit. The squad does need strengthening, but it’s the main issue for me. I’ll say it and maybe I’ll be the bad guy again. The team we see week in week out hasn’t been developed properley on the pitch. It’s like we are suffering from a multiple personality disorder. Today we saw United try to grind out the result and put Newcastle to the sword in the same game. Who’s a regular starter in this side other than DDG, Rooney and Vidic? You can’t build a strong team with a core of 3 players. Remember the 6-0 thrashing of Newcastle? That was with Carrick and Anderson in midfield. So personally I can’t buy the midfield excuse. That team was worked on. 8 of its players were regular starters each week. If we don’t come up with a core of 6-7 players and start playing one style of play each week, we will have these ups and downs all season…
Don’t worry Jeet, we can work it out.
@FITB
Plus, our midfield duo today played well I thought. But even if 8-9 players play well individually, that won’t matter one bit if they don’t play as a team.
Costas is the new bad guy on RoM. I’m turning heel too.
In other news:
Zibbie(buckshot)Stardust bagged himself a few deers. Skinned and ready cook, for the wider family. Enjoy!
Can I just ask the rest if you feel that someone like Mourinho would approach the transfer market differently and be more positive about it because it seems like SAF for some personal reason refuses to pay what they want for players?
At the moment it feels like United are worse than ever at handling the currect situation regarding the transfer market and is backing out as soon as any obstacles arise. In that sense it would be interesting to have Mourinho onboard because I just feel he would lure the top players to United and unless we wanna see City dominate both the league and transfer market for a long time we need to have a new approach and at the moment I can only see Mourinho bringing that to the club.
NOVEMBER 26, 2011 AT 18:11
Fred says:
In other news, Big Phil Jones has bought a new Baby Bentley with 30 inch rims. Top boy.
So’ WHAT IS YOUR POINT THEN??
The worrying thing is, united had michael carrick and giggs as starters last season which worked well in patches and duly won the league but teams have got stronger now, legendary giggs cannot produce performances consistently anymore and we shouldn’t be relying on him.
carrick is efficient at what he does which is sit and protect the back line, circulate the ball and keep possession, the lack of depth and class in midfield means he is now asked to be creative and score, carrick will never do this.
we either bring players through capable of being creative or buy them, some good youth players are at the club, when they’ll be given their chance i simply do not know, perhaps against crystal palace we may witness this? And admittedly, banging on about it won’t make a difference but something has to be done, supporters will keep debating about it but that’s not the only issue in the team, the whole team lacks confidence and i for one have no answers to solving this fucking issue, conceding crucial late goals and not having a way back is pissing me off.
Very true Costas, one man’s rest is another man’s rotation is another man’s disruption. And even after all this we still get towards the end of the season and hear from the hierarchy about “tired players”.
Giggs12
I thought they helped us move forward plenty today. Carrick cut out pretty much everything in midfield today and started our play after winning balls. Look at the chances we created. What did their midfield contribute? Is that because ours was shit. Of course people can have oppinions and rightly so, but the same people come on here everytime we fail to win slagging off united players and giving up on the league. It’s not even Christmas for fuck sake.
Pardew admits it wasn’t a penalty:
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/matchday-live/blog/2011-11-26/pardew-ferdinand-challenge-ben-arfa-wasnt-penalty?
@Fred: Would you be taken aback if I said at this moment, I just wanna hold your hand ?
@Costas: I sort of get where you are coming from. Today was nothing about the midfield. Neither was Benfoica match at OT. Actually, I am not worried at a systemic level about either of those displays. Benfica was about an inexperienced goalie+defence, and today was about Hernandez not having his shooting boots on, and a cunt of a ref. What does worry me as a systemic problem is our continued inability to nail IT over a period of 1.5 years. I can’t define it, but there’s just too much variability in formation, style, tactics, formation, and personnel for us to be assured. Maybe it’s just a sign if transition. I certainly hope so.
Wolfie hehehe I have a roast ready to go tonight. Fed 20+ Thursday.
I don’t drink alcohol/Whatever smoke invented out there (and NEVER will) so i have nothing to drown my sorrows with, maybe i’ll go shoot those annoying foxes (it’s a joke if any R.S.P.C.A is reading) or maybe i’ll get punching bags, ARRGH!
Well you’ve already called me a beautiful boy, so I guess I wouldn’t be too surprised by that.
You see, my issue is different from my Greek combatant. Every other area of the pitch has been strengthened, bar the midfield. That’s no midfield signings since 2007. Hargreaves and Ando. To me, it is the CM that concerns me, and has done for the last 2 years at least. Not saying, we buy a midfielder and every thing will fall into place. But, you do have to wonder, why this crucial area has been neglected. It’s the most important part of the pitch. Costas might have a point though. We do look disorganized at times. Lack of a leader? Maybe. I don’t have answers. Only an opinion.
Go on Fulham!!
I really think we’ve turned into what we have always despised – a bunch of fannies, like Arsenal.
It seems like a long time ago now when Ando went to Anfield and denied Gerard a kick of the ball – was that our last win at Anfield? I remember we were playing in black…
Fred
I wouldn’t call city a bunch of fannies. Classless cunts yes but bunch of fannies no.
OMFG Arsenal are losing at home to Fulham!!
@Fred: haha, on that note, let’s call it quits on the Beatles game, my friend!
@Willie: I agree with you…maybe the midfield issue will settle a lot of the other issues. Like when we had ronny, we had the blitzkrieg strategy of the front 3, i.e. too good not to repeat. Maybe we need Keano type balls in the middle, though Vida increasingly seems to e getting there. Again, like you, I don’t know. I can only observe and call it.
Samuel//
Your pancreas will love you for it and I’m a totalist myself as well.
absolutist even LOL
@mikekelly
No that’s fair play mate and as I say I don’t think our midfield is shit its good but is it top class? Sadly no
Arsenal are SHITE! That wasteful cunt van Persie has cost them the points!!
Fred – Imagine there’s no city billions. It’s easy if you try.
@Jeet
If we are to buy a midfielder in the summer……then I would like us to go all out and get the best. Not a young kid. we’ve got enough of those coming through. Will it happen? I hope so mate.
Late Arsenal show has started, 1-1
shall we be relying on quick interchange fast movements 1-2 passing on every game or should we try something different when the previous is not working like holding on to the ball and finding space on middle and upfront.berbatov does the holding job very well and hernandez is great at finding space by stretching the play.a berbatov and hernandez partnership can do well.the problem in fast interchanging play is quick thinking which seems sort of missing on some occasions which leads to the mispasses.
Stupid Arsenal wankers. Drawing 1-1 at home with an upper-mid-table team isn’t going to do much for your title credentials!
Oh.
I’d say it was a great point!
@Willie: Again, agreed. I’ve been banging on about buying world-class, proven-at-the-highest-level-talent. Sadly, don’t think it’s going to happen mate. Not with the glazer-gill rule of not buying anybody over 26.
Also, seeing SAF’s comments about being on a frustrating lookout for the new Keano/Robson makes me feel even less optimistic. Simply because football doesn’t produce Keano/Robson type players anymore. Everybody, literally each and every one of the top clubs and a level below them, have moved on from 4-4-2. Consequently, they don’t produce those Robson type players anymore. I can think of only one – Bastian the Beast. My views on our likelihood of us getting him are probably well known on this blog, by now. So, either we move on tactically (no guarantees of us getting top MF talent even in that case), or we produce our own.
Mikekelly12//
Doesn’t feel like it now but it may prove a great point. Newcastle have lost just once compared to Chelseas 4 defeats so that says something about what they have achieved so far. If you consider that we’ve had it easy at home to Newcastle over the years then you could say they were due a draw today.
I just wonder how long they will hold onto Krul in goal cause I reckon they will have to accept a big offer for him soon.
Krul wasn’t even their first choice keeper until this season. He used to play second fiddle to that Harper chap. Kuszczak and Lindegaard should use him as inspiration.
I stick by my comment SAF was Stoned on the Bench !
Too much fun with Mike Phelan
Anyone see Rene Muelensteen when the Camera was near him, he was out of it, off his nut, fella struggled to keep his eyes open, them 3 was lighting up in the tunnel, half time, full time.
- The team is always set out to represent the managers characteristics –
On This day our Manager was High & Fly as a Bird, explains why chicho,Nani and Young struggled to stand up on their feet without wobbling.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Meulensteen,_Ren%C3%A9.jpg
PROOF
Can’t believe Obertan got the last laugh.
Horrid comments from some proper cunts here. Fuck off with your shitty words, no place for them here.
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