Sir Alex Ferguson sensibly claimed that the winner of the Liverpool-Chelsea Champions League games would probably pose the biggest threat to us in the title race. Clearly, the winner will have a massive boost of confidence whilst the loser will be dejected. At present, there are just three points between these two title rivals and the outcome of their Champions League could have a massive effect.
Rafael Benitez, who has spoken more nonsense and is more easily offended that TNSSO this season, has reacted to these comments, claiming United are in fact scared of Liverpool, who are below us in the league despite playing a game more.
“It is not mind games, I think it maybe is that he is a little bit scared of us,” Benitez responded, when asked about Ferguson’s comments. “I do not have a problem with United. Clearly one of us, either Chelsea or us, will end up focusing just on the Premier League after this. I think Sir Alex will be supporting Liverpool in this tie because he knows we are the bigger threat now. If we continue in the Champions League maybe he will think we are tired. If we are not in this competition then he knows that we will be a threat in the Premier League. If Chelsea are not in the competition, then he knows they will then be a threat also in the league. But he will lose anyway, whoever goes out, because they will still be a big threat to United. But we just concentrate on our team, while he likes to talk too much about other teams.”
Seriously, do you think he has to work hard at sounding this obsessive and bitter? Ferguson was asked who he thought the biggest threat to us winning the league again was and he responded by saying the winner of the Chelsea vs Liverpool game. That’s not talking obsessively about other teams, it’s merely answering a question, and isn’t putting down either team. And this is from the man who went on the telly and delivered a five minute speech about Sir Alex Ferguson! How the fuck can he claim he just likes to concentrate on Liverpool after his odd ‘episode’ at that press conference? Clearly the attention that comes with mounting a title challenge is all too much for the FSW. Before this season, when Liverpool were out of the title race by October, we didn’t hear a peep out of him. Now, you can’t shut up him up from having a pop at our manager!
Can’t wait until May.
Man Utd News 24/7
that fat spainish cunt is at it again… he has lost it for the 2nd time this season… i cant wait for that fat david brent wannabe to end the season with fuck all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RciJNOfrbOw
why does this nutter not just shut the fuck up
talk about a 2 man team
they must be a 2 man club
have they no press officer
to tell him to just pipe down
i love manchester united
i live in dublin but try to get over at least 10 games a season
my house has manchester united aspect everwhere
my daughters middle name is best
i have the longitude and latitude by degrees to old trafford tattooed on my wrist
my daughter knows over 90 united chants
i cant get out how much i love this club
its team
its players
its staff
its past
but i am no where near as obsessed with manchester united as anyone from liverpool
he is embarassing, self pity city fc deserve him
Manuel just doesn’t get it does he! Me from madrid, me thick cunt, no.
So let me get this straight.Even if Fergie is worried about the obvious(LIverpool having rests before the Premier League games) how does that make him obsessed?Look at what is happening in 2 weeks.They don’t play during the FA cup semi final weekend and then they have Arsenal at home with 7 days rest while Arsenal will have played 3 days before.Where is the justice in that?What’s the message?Get knocked out of all the competitions and you will be rested?At least make them play a friendly with one of the other teams that have a free weekend.
“i have the longitude and latitude by degrees to old trafford tattooed on my wrist”
HA
SAD.
FSW just talks bollocks
A fucking loud mouthed, utd obssessed spanish cunt. Wonder if he ever gets to think of anything other than utd…so sad…someone pls call d psychiatrist
fuck you jj
i have that there because its the lst place i talked to my dad cause he died when i was at a match,ya prick
Expected line up:VDS-O’Shea,Evans,Vida,Evra-Ronaldo,Carrick,Scholes,Fletcher,Park-Rooney.Or maybe Fletch on the right and ROnaldo partnering Rooney.We will see.
Guys just ignore this fuckin drivel by the FAT SPANISH CUNT…….the fat fuck just doesnt have a clue of what he’s talking about…..whose obsessed with whom…whose talking about whom. SAF gets posed 2 questions on the dippers in 6 months..he gives a very respectful dignified quick sentence replies to both.
YET…the fat fuck firstly goes off on a bender with his toilet paper rant……and now instead of concentrating on his dippers game tmrw….he spends 7 minutes of his press conference talkin about us again. lol lol
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha …
what a FUCKIN DIPPER…..
just laugh it off…..cos come may i want this bastard to get his comeback and cummepance. Fat fuck…since he grew goatie he thinks his tony from the sopranos…..be aware…ha ha ha
guys so obsessed with us….maybe he wants a job with us……well he could clean out the new bogs in the quadrants…maybe then he can lose some weight and see his dick..which he hasnt seen since he was a small 12 year old spanish fuck.
Dippers just deluded
Oh and what a surprise.Fabio again not even on the bench.
what and where is fabio…this is getting worrying
Atleast he didn’t support his argument with “facts” this time
Hilarious, just right to warm up for tonight’s match. Keep the laughs coming, Rafia Man, we like to see your nerve-ends showing.
Could we make a live topic or something like that?I despise this FSW so much i don’t want to even write about UNited in a thread about him.
…and just imagine we will have to endure this crap for a few years to come.
I actually think that the FSW has come out with this statement, as it must have really hit the bin dippers in training yesterday, and i think the win we got on Sunday and the manner of how we got the result, has really really brought him players down with a bang… and the FSW is gonna try anyway whatsoever to try and get his players up…
It wouldnt suprise me if the bin dippers end up with a couple of sendings off tomoz… can see it… coz there heads have gone..
1. 2. 3. “Shame” hahahahahahahah Scouse Scally Scummers
hes still crackin up
fuck off FSW
Little perplexed with the lineup but I guess the logic seems to be to not concede at any costs today…I think fletch is going to play midfield right to protect JOS…I would have a liked a 2 striker setup, but I guess this gives us the option to be more flexible without making substitutions…we shall see..costas – equally surprised here at no Fabio on the bench.
If Fletch plays on the right,it will be 2 strikers.Or it could be 4-3-3 mirroring Porto’s formation.Eckersly is on the bench so there was a spot available for Fabio.Is he injured?
no idea – I thought he was training with the squad – but I will have to assume it was an injury issue, because having 2 RBs on the bench doesn’t make much sense. Anyways I don’t expect any of them to actually have been used tonight – I expect whatever substitutions to happen to be in midfield or up front, not defensive.
Yeah.Hopefully,Tevez won’t be needed.Maybe once we have gor 2 or 3,Nani might come on to rest Ronaldo.
Expecting fletch-carrick-scholes-park formation in midfield with Ronaldo given the license to roam.
Maybe a 4-3-3 with Scholesy in front of Carrick-Fletcher?It’s been a long time but it will help offensively and also Scholes won’t have to get involved in the midfield tussles.I agree that will probably see Fletch on the right but it’s not his best position.
gotta hate tiny tears; been a fine Irish man like meself does it wreck your head as much as mine the way the lads slate Ronaldo,
Very off topic has anyone seen renault add with cantona its fucking funny
Shite i ment the lads on RTE
costas – might just be a 4-3-3…btw, is it just me, or should be really pepper helton with shots at goal…he’s not the best goalie i’ve seen…
I also have to say, getting back to ronaldo issue from the last few days..he’s worth a lot just for being willing and able to be played at such frequency…
fucking hell…brilliant save that VDS!!!!
oh my god…
shambiles
absolute chaos…
mahesh – still think he’s worth alot? pathetic ronaldo. pathetic.
Oh c’mon shepsii – can you see one united player on that pitch right now doing anything constructive…till that ronaldo header?
just need to settle down – and i’ll still say 3-1…but need to fucking settle down…
just sooooo fucking smart from roooney!!!! smart smart smart!!!!
take them anyway they come
oooooh….fuck….
what the hell is going on….?
Absolutely disgraceful display right now
when did we all of a sudden forget to pass the ball
the gooners are also losing
I think there needs to be a substitution right now – a striker needs to come on…for either carrick or scholes…
Park, as of now, should already be subbed out. Just running headless and has made one solid touch, and is there really no other defender other than JOS?
jos looks solid….evans looks scared
we can’t seem to win a single fucking header…
You’re right Evans looks absolutely lost
seriously guys,,,,has anyone seen our midfeild cause i havent
there has to be a substitution asap…
scholes has been downright terrible…
these players are good enough,,,,they just need to get hold the ball and support ronaldo and rooney….also ronaldo is less effective as a striker and easily tripled teamed….so c’mon lads…get stuck in
Scholes finding his feet
carrick, scholes, and fletchter are playin too flat across the middle on of them needs to take some innititive and move forward and give us an outlet to use in the middle
parks gootta come of 4 nani….and tevez on fot 1 of the 3 midfielders…
if we fix it we can still win by 2 or so…
They are not afraid are they?And why should they?Even VDS is fucking up at times.This will be a long second half if this keeps going on.It’s not about one player.The whole team lacks confidence.Even if Rio was playing,the same thing would be happening.
scholes and carrick are playing shit… very worrying… park also shite, o shea should not be allowed near a united team ever again
i personally think giggs can make a difference here…his running through the middle would frighten the shite outta porto and give them a taste of there own medicine
i think JOS is the only 1 whos had a decent game actually..
Carrick – anonymous.
Scholes seems to have forgotten how to pass.
This is woeful.
keanesmagichat….john o’shea is who u’d single out….one of the few player to show agression….it evans that doin nothing but bbackin off….scholes thats misplace passes…carrick who seems to be shadowing scholes and afraid to move more than 5 yards away form him….JOS is the least of our concerns
mahesh you also claimed park should come on for nani… park is playing you idiot,,, so your opinion is worth fuck all…jos is shit
‘come off’ you idiot…learn to read first!
JOS,or anyone else is not to be singled out.I thik we have players who have fragile confidence and others who are physically fatigued.A few weeks ago Evans would have closed down Rodriguez.A few months ago,Ronaldo would have been a lot more fresh and he wouldnt’ be losing the ball like that in dangerous positions.What can i say?We need a surge of adrenaline like Sunday.
keanesmagichat – no Mahesh didn’t! He said Nani had to come on for Park. Let’s not fight among ourselves, but if we’re going to, at least let’s be accurate. Unlike the passing so far.
least of our concerns? how much joy are they having down our right?
the guy is a catastrophe…. nowhere near good enough… midfield also playing poor… but o shea should be sold, if anyone would have him
my apologies mahesh, my bad
no worries keanesmagicchat – lets hope for an all around better second half…
seems to have started better anyway, a bit more urgency…
front two not so isolated
keanesmagichat….didnt the goal come form the left……our problrms are midfeild….we sort that out and still get the result we need….as for ur opipions bout o’shea…i dont agree
i bet your irish
that’ll be a good bet…but dosnt change my opionions….just means ive seen more of the guy at center back…and not in his multifunctional postions he plays for utd
oh my…how close…push on push on…
fair point, but he is not good enough to play for united at centre back either… i do acknowledge that title winning teams need players like him..willing to play anywhere for the team…
I think johnny evans is a goner – looks injured…
hey…its hard when u take a dislike to a player…all u see is the bad pass… the miss chance etc…..you wanna see the trouble i had to like fletcher…thhen u see the effort they put in and it gradually changes ur opinion
c’mon tevez
im really worried about our season now…. playing so poor
yyyeeeeesssss
what’s the fsw on about again????
who else????!!!
c’mon lads….time for another
prophetic keith mac
as the crowd say “fergie sign him up”
one more right now would be ideal…
but i will take 2-1 right now…
forget it…what a disaster…
rubbish… our defence is a disgrace
now’s the time ronnie…to work ur magic
everything’s wrong…it had to be ronnie taking that one surely…well anyways go to porto and win…easier said than done but i guess we know exactly whats needed…
Gary Neville you’re done, bring on the young guns for now
without rio, i dont have any confidence in our defence, evans is not playing as good as he was a few months ago.
I could see the ball going to that guy as soon as neville ran to cover the center.
im hoping just like everyone else that we beat porto away, but no english team has done it, and atm the way we’re playing im not sure if we’ll change that
at least we go back there with a chance – which is more than we deserve…
Porto deserved at least this draw.I don’t know what the fuck our problem is in the last month(tiredness,injuries,errors in judgment pick your choice) but this season is hanging by a thread.We can’t go on like this in 3 competitions.
Macheda’s goal can’t mask the many problems that the team currently has.
blown it
Missing Carlos Quieroz and it is showing.
Defensively poor. Can’t string passes together.
Red Nev may be the best we have but he just isn’t up to the job.
JOS isn’t good enough in an inexperienced defense.
Evans is out of the team with a groin strain.
On to Porto to become the first English team to beat them there.
Costa you’re right about Macheda. Can’t cover up the cracks.
What is wrong with this team?
Played far too open.
were really struggling
Hopefully Carlos Quieroz comes back to United.
alpha_rs a bit of everything.Quieroz’s absence,injuries,bad judgement calls,exhaustion and others.None of them can be fixed from one match to the other.
The problem isn’t Quieroz’s absence but someone’s like Quieroz.The last time the team started such a rut after going into a great run was 03-04 where again,SAF was handling everything basically alone.It’s crunch time guys.Here’s what i say.Leave the Ch.League out of our sights and focus on the double.We can’t handle a two header with Arsenal like this.
What also seems to be very clear is that there is no real leader out there on the pitch – someone who’ll take players and the game by the scruff of the neck…
Even of there was mahesh,you can’t spur on tired players.Our 2nd couldn’t have been more simplistic.It was the only way we could have scored.There is a reason why no team has ever repeated the Ch.League.Look at what we are going through.53 games at the beggining of April.Unreal.
Ha ha ha ha!! Fucking brilliant…..Looks like Rafa has really got under Fergie’s skin now…..Been shite for weeks and after we bailed you 4 -1 looks like all teh other teams are working out that if they attack you you fall apart….
Good old Rafa!!
Didn’t we batter Porto 4-1 at home not that long ago?? 2 – 2 superb…..Get Macheda on for the next game….
Hilarious!!
Sean fuck out of here now.You were nowhere to be seen for 2 days.Go back to the wormhole you came from.Idiot.
Costas – I’ve got to agree with you on that – right now I would rather win the PL than the Ch.League. Even before tonight’s game for whatever reason the match just did not excite me. Defensively it was more of the same from the villa game. I think the hope was that Macheda’s goal would bring about a sea change in belief and attitude. Apparently there is more going on in that squad than a lack of belief. It’s a basic lack of organization and blasphemous as it may sound SAF has always lacked that little bit in winning these knockout ties..
What I wanna know was why was Hulk allowed to turn so much?
don’t worry costas, sean will be gone again tomorrow – just for that, I’m calling for a chelsea thrashing of the dippers…
Evra was all over the place alpha.As was everyone.O’Shea was slightly better but in this situation 2-3 players can’t make the difference.
Only positive is that we didn’t lose the game. Our midfield was so far off the pace it was scary. JOS had his usual shocker, he’s all we have at the minute but he’s not enough. When he overlaps the winger and gets the ball the attack breaks down, simple as that.
Scholesy needs to hang up his boots… no time or place for sentiment… he gave the ball away far too much…
We all know the song “He scores goals Paul Scholes, He scores goals”… but truth is that he doesnt anymore..
Years gone by, commentators would say it was a “Photo” moment when Scholesy did a stray pass… tonight it was a “Photo” moment when he completed a pass..
SAF got it all wrong.. by only playing 1 striker shown Porto too much respect.. and it shown with them scoring in the first 5 mins… it invited them to have a real go at us…
I bet when Porto only seen that we had only 1 striker out there they were well up for it…
John O’Shea is a liability… he strays out of position, and looks naive… in fact more naive than his first season, for which in my eyes he simply hasnt progressed.
Michael Carrick well he is well and truly off his game… Anderson was fit tonight.. so why the hell did he not play against his former club… instead we played to “Creative” midfields in Scholes and Carrick, for which one is too old and the other is well and truly off form…
Fletcher had a good game as did Vidic…
Rooney was 110% as always…
Ronaldo..fuckin ell… he goes on that he is at the right club etc blah blah blah… it was him giving away possesion again that cost us the first goal.. and then the second goal of Porto’s he should have been rocketing back to offer some support but all he was doing was strolling back as though he was wondering what to have for his tea after the game..
Ronaldo is not committed… i do not want players at OT if they aint gonna give 100% everygame… it aint the right way, and it aint the United way..
Poor fuckers paid £45-50 for the tickets tonight and we got taught a lesson..
They wanted to win, they all give 100% and in all honesty were the better team… and that fuckin pains me saying that… but… its the truth…
There is too many players at the moment, that are either off form, not giving there all… or as plain and simple not good enough ie O’Shea, and Park..
Johnny Evans isnt gonna get off easily either… it was schoolboy stuff letting that player for the first goal just side step him and rather than closing him down.. then that shot was just a formality coz it made his mind up for him..
Giggsy, did ok when he came on… and Carlito did well… he always gives his all..
One thing i gotta say, even though i dont think he had a bad game.. but i dont think Evra is fully fit.. .coz since he came back from his injury, he just hasnt been his normal self..
We have got one hell of a daunting task over in Porto.. and i just hope to god that SAF gets the team selection right, coz he needs to fuckin blast the lazy players especially one lazy player that was out there tonight..
“Look at me”, “Ive made it”, “Im the best in the world”… well you know what i say to that..
“FUCK OFF”, you aint bigger than United, and if you aint up to giving your all to the team, to the club, to the fans when its required, then you aint wanted
“FUCK OFF”… im really really pissed off… i was hoping that we would really put a message out tonight, especially after the result Sunday.. but oh no… we were fuckin sluggish… sloppy, and dopey.. and we lacked creativity..
Teams can read Ronaldo like a book for a 3 year old.. .piece of piss, and its time to cash in.. plus.. .we are desperate for an out and out striker.. coz if i was Rooney i would be seriously pissed off…
Twice now SAF has got the selection wrong against Fulham… fuckin Berbatov up front on his own… and now tonight Wazza up front on his own.. big time fuck up if you ask me…
What sort of message does that send out… it sends out that we are scared and cautious..
We need to do it the United way… we know that we never do it the easy way… thats the appeal to our club… thats why we love our club, its like a fuckin good thriller… that has that many twists and turns… keeps us on the edge of our seats…. but seriously i just didnt see where the goals were coming from tonight, and have seen that for a few weeks now..
We need the players that are happy to take the £100k a week salaries to role there sleeves up.. get stuck in, and never mind just doin the fancy shite… to get back, defend as a team, attack as a team…
The first time i have said this for a long long time for a good few years… but i am seriously worried that if we dont sort it out and fast… then there aint gonna be any food on our plate at meal time come the end of the season..
Before i stop ranting, i aint a fan of John O’Shea… and aint it a fuckin coincidence that since he has been in the team over the last 4 or 5 games, the whole team looks out of balance and out of sorts… and i know i shouldnt blame it on one player… but in my eyes O’Shea brings negativity to the team just like that pile of crap Kuschack brings to the defence when he is in net…
Need to get rid of the ones, that are too old, not good enough, or not committed, and get the players in who will give us what we need..
People will prob say that im over reacting… well i dont think i am… im really fucked off and let down after tonight… i was expecting a hell of a lot more..
alpha – spot on about O’Shea. He is a solid defender but what was with Evra. He didn’t get back at all in those final moments, he should not have kept going forward after the Tevez goal. United had to push the back three way over to the left because he didn’t get back leaving a huge gap uncovered at the far post. Ronaldo was on the right at that point and didn’t get back into a defensive position but never does and Evra should know that. What a shity end to a game that should have ended with one of the goals of the tournament.
Evans was struggling but fought through the pain so I have to respect his performance. He made a huge mistake early on but responded well. If we play any better we should get the result but without Rio and Vida in the middle I worry about our chances.
I will say that I am pissed at the fixtures. The Sunday kick-off really left us with little gas which might explain Evra and the entire sluggish performance. But we get some rest now before Saturday and hopefully Rio can get fit for that match. With Vidic back I think we should have the power to get things a bit more right defensively and get the win against Sunderland.
If we even attempt to open up play at the Dragao like we did tonight,expect an long evening.We have to play compact and whatever happens happens.
Nice to see all of you pn here couldn’t make the game eh? Interesting to say the least…..
If you lot cant see you have been abysmal by your own standards for weeks now then you are deluded. 10 goals conceded in last 4 games and 2 pens that should have been given today….
Cant wait to see them knock you out…..
Yeah costas I think the team has just hit a wall collectively at this point…what is needed is a second wind asap…I think SAF is out of ideas as well right now, and the villa result was just 10 mins of everything falling into place…Its clear the intl. break didn’t change anything…For some reason I think our best bet is freshening the teams out on the field a bit but putting in one or two of the younger players every game…I know we count on experience this stage of the season but I just get this sense of staidness in the team right now which needs freshening up…
The only fella showing any bottle is a fucking Scouser! Ironic or what?
I also think we have performed poorly in all fairness all season… just better than the majority.. and i still think this has a big bearing on the no2 Mike Phelan… no way near tactical for this level.
Ps…. Sean, go fuck a Pineapple or sommat, ya prick licker.
Sean remove the bottle from your ass and come back tomorrow after Chelsea have stuffed you.
Sean – look behind you, its your parole officer!!!
FailsworthDevil – O’Shea was playing when we went on our run in and out of games too. He is suffering from the lack of in-form players around him. He was not the one making the mistakes.
Evra did not get back to over the left side at the end of the game. He may have been tired but he has a duty back there. As I just said forced everyone over to the left leaving the gap.
Couldn’t agree more with respect to Ronaldo. He is a self-centered pre-madonna who says one things but acts differently. For me he has begun to work a bit harder but Evans should have easily cleared the ball away after Ronaldo lost it. I know he lost it but he can’t be perfect 100% of the time.
I think your expecting too much from a team who played within the last 72 hours. With how hard they had to fight on Sunday for the win I was worried about them being tired. FA got it wrong, should have moved the match to a different date.
Scholes had an off night but this is a first for awhile. He hasn’t been perfect the last couple of games but when he is on he is one of our best midfielders. A healthy Paul Scholes is the first on my list in mid-field.
I have no complaints about the formation as it has proved sufficient over the entire season but lately your right in saying it hasn’t worked as planned. We do need two up-front but needed to compensate for a patched together back-line.
I am disappointed too but I am still confident we are still working out some kinks and going through an injury crises which came out of nowhere. I also think we have some rest time now (not a lot) which should help our stamina, especially if we can rest some key players and get a result on Saturday. If any team can get the result in Porto, its United!
But how Kevin?Obviously we can’t open up the game there because our fitness won’t improve anymore.O’Shea and Evra are the only ones who i can’t accuse easily.They have played non stop for the last month which accounts to 10 games including internationals.
we only have to win one away game next week and we are through to the next round,yeah it was a poor show and we didnt beat them easily,remember the finals in 99 and then last year,did anyone “enjoy” those games when you was sitting through them?Jeez i remember watching in 68 and that went to extra time…..”they have never been beat by an English team at home”….well they wont be saying that next week
sean, your lot killed your own fans… simple 96 was not enough
I have to say – Porto is tough to play at the Dragao for a reason. I would take us to be at out best to win there, not our worst – I think its really going to be a case of us being as compact as possible and pile on the pressure towards the end of either half…Rio and Vida have to be there, together, or we’re toast. Vida was covering for Evans half the time today…
Gutted gutted am absolutely gutted….the team is tired. You can see that. We have endeavoured a lot of below par performances recently. It all started at the home game against Inter where I think we got away with a very poor performance.
Today we looked very vulnerable at the back. Evans was nerving and evra was way below par. I dont know what has befallen our team. Ronaldo was once again shite. He also had a hand on the first goal we conceded.
Cherry it’s tiredness.I am afraid to say that no team that wins the Ch.League can chase a quintuple the next season.It’s not on.
Paul Scholes is not a key player for us anymore…thats the fact… i dont know if its down to his vision problems or what.. be he is just not the clinical player anymore… and i just cant put that down to age.. as Giggsy is still an important player… not the same type of player as he once was.. but has changed his game to compliment his experiance… now with Scholesy you just cannot change his game… he has never been a tackler.. and he has always been a scorer, and accurate passer, and both of them elements of his game have no been apparent for a long time now…definately not this season..
John O’Shea is a liability… he drifts from the full back spot into the centre, leaving gaps on the wing…
Carrick, well i dont even recall him putting a tackle in tonight..
Ji Sung Park.. no end product.. purely a marketing tool..
Johnny Evans.. dont wanna be too hard on him, as he is a good centre back.. but that goal should never have happened… poor clearance, and then naive not to close the player down and let him shoot.
CR7… i know the stats say that he is getting 1 in ever 2 for us.. and do not and didnt expect him to give us what he did last year… it was a freak season for him… but… i just cannot stick his laziness… cannot abide the being on knees, throwing hands in the air while the game is carrying on around him… it just doesnt set a good example to the other players…
If you are the worlds best footballer.. you would get up straight away, and go and get the ball back and say “Right ill fuckin show ya”… but he doesnt..
George Best was kicked to fuck in the 60s/70s but he never did the tantrums, he just carried on… and the more CR7 carries on with the tants, that will be what he will be remembered for… and he simply isnt what we need at the minute, and him and Nani can fuck off for all i care.. both lazy self centred twats..
I am not impressed at the moment… really aint..
I dont care about fatigue.. i used to play, Saturday Afternoon, Sunday Morning, Sunday afternoon, train Tues, Weds, Thurs night, and hold a full time job through the week, and dj at the weekends… and i know it aint at the same level, no way near… but…
£100k a week, everything done for them, pampered to there every need… dont talk to me about fatigue.. they train 2-3 hours a day.. totally utterly fit… and play what 2 games a week..
If you love it that much.. then u just do it.. it all comes down to your self discipline, your own desire to suceed…
Like Costa’s said… SAF has rotated lots this year… in fact he has used 32 different players.. so we shouldnt be suffering really..
Someone just please tell me United can do it and will pull through this bad patch!!
AWFUL !
guys, i realy don’t know HOW we will go to the next round.
Guys, what was wrong with this tactics ? fatigue ? in the 20th minute we gave the ball away! our players didn’t know what to do. they just didn’t understand what to do on the pitch!
and get of the back of Scholesy. Has anyone noticed Carrick ? C’Mon!
FailsworthDevil he has rotated a lot,but certain players have been at the thick of the action a lot in the past 3 months.O’Shea,Evra and Carrick arr three of them.Vida was ok today just because he had a chance to catch a breather.Fatigue is not about games.It’s about the fact that we went all the way last year and then we had the Euros and some players only had 3-4 weeks of vacation to recharge their batteries.There was a reason UNited went on a run at the end of the 99-00 season(after the Ch.League):we got knocked out of the cups early.Here we are like a battering ram.Going forward wihtout acknowledging how thick the door that we are trying to break really is.
i dont think Porto will attack like that home they’ll be patient and try nick it Red Neville is finished cant wait tll the other 2 are fit hopfully it wont by late by then.
Couldn’t believe how everyone kept backing off all night, evra is major concern.
We need a battle tank for midfield carrick just not cutting mustard really,maybe we should steal Barry from under pools noses or somthing there is no leadership in middle
As the old saying goes in out the old and in with the new to many players feeling comfortable at the club time for a shake up
Corea – plain and simple – we will not go through. UNLESS we put together a freak performance. So I’ll say 75% we’re out of the CL, but will cling on to the minor chance that we have a blinder that night. Its been known to happen so why not then…
Corea,it’s a rut.Remember the United side during February and March of 04?It’s the same.Injuries,fatigue and others.
Evans looked today like a player who has lost confidence in himself.Vida spend half the game covering for him. I am also not convinced by Evra but I will not blame him much considering the number of game he has played so far. He looked mentally tired. I also think that Ronnie deserves a rest. He was poor today, did not beat a single player one on one for the whole match. Poor defending, lack of concentration cost us the game. We have our one foot out of the competition.
I smell a Leverkuseen
fuck you jj you upset me so much i couldnt watch the match
Cherry at Leverkusen we had a superb Roy Keane who deserved to go to the final.We don’t even have that anymore.Maybe just Wayne.
Playing a lot of games is no excuse for the performances tonight. They played as if they were fucking asleep! JOS could be fresh as a daisy and still have a shocker. I can’t understand people defending gim, he isn’t good enough to play for Manchester United, if he is, then standards have slipped to an unacceptable level in my eyes. I agree 100% with Seanmc26 we need someone in midfield to drive us on. I also stand by almost everything Failsworthdevil mentioned in his post above. A few home truths that had to be said.
At this stage of the season, the players are running on reserve, plain and simple. Such a drastic dip in form cannot be explained in any other way. In football the difference ultimately lies for most of the 90+ minutes in that little extra that some teams have in terms of movement and finding and creating space. And fatigue doesn’t have to bring you to a complete standstill – a slight dip in mental and physical conditioning and you start looking average. That is what has happened to us. Sometimes you can make up for it through pure heart, which is why I am honestly more worried about our league season than the knockout games in CL and the FA cup.
I am not disagreeing haha.I just believe that tired players look more ordinary.Like they are asleep.O’Shea wasn’t the problem today.How could Gary Neville make such a mistake?
And if Fergie believes that the problem was the late lapse in concentration,then i am worried if we will get to the root of our issues this season.
Wonder does any1 have a word with the players anymore cause a few years ago after a 1st half like that the players would have been ripped a new ass hole.
there used to be a few men who would have had act lifted the team when a pass went astray.
I know poeple wont agree but i think keaneo should be given back room job or brian robo some1 any1 that knows how to read players moods.
One more thing.
Last season we were lucky. we’ve won the double. we kept all the players and have bought Berba. We MUST have built on this. But we are not.
That is killing me.
Your right, JOS isn’t the problem, the whole team is going through an awful run at the minute. But while the rest of the team can find form and perform to a very high standard we have some passengers in the team. Park and JOS starting a champions league quarter final for the defending champions is a sad sight in my opinion. What does Park give besides effort? He poses little or no attacking threat, although he does allow us to play a certain system by his industry, I’m sure we can find a more talented player for the role.
seanmc26- following up on what you said I also think club captain has to be someone who is likely to play in most games, if fit. I don’t agree with Nev and Giggs being the captain on the pitch when they don’t play enough. Just as a thought experiment, I wonder what giving the captain’s armband to ronnie will do to his attitude. I always think while watching him for portugal, that as captain he seems to make a conscious effort to act mature…
Really dont know where to start. Fact is the whole team looked mentally tired. I cant imagine Park who was rested on Sunday being so abysmal. He was absolutely poor in evry aspect. I think its about time Fergy started using the young lads. Carrick was no where to be seen. Fletch was doing all the work. Am I the only one who think that its time tobring on Possebon and fabio? maybe against Sunderland on Saturday.
Maheshh; i agree with you 100%
i dont think young players take seriously some1 who might not be in the team nxt week give ronnie a try could do wonders 4 him or even Rooney I’ve always said he’s our future captain he has the win at all cost attitude just like Keano who could be a hot head too as we all know.
Too much sentiment been breathed in in that dressing room where has SAF ruttless side gone .
What do u think about backroom staff
We are leaking goals for fun. 10 goals in four matches is unacceptable. We need a shake up. Why is fergy not using Fabio at right back? I am sick and tired of JOS. how he manage to stay in this club is absolutely beyond me.
I cant pick my phone now!!! It has not stop ringing since the final whistle went. My deluded dipper friends call.
@seanmc26 – I have to agree with you on backroom staff as well – Micky Phelan is definitely not Asst. Manager material – or at least doesn’t strike me as that. I don’t know where and how he contributes in management, but I always thought his post-match interviews lacked the sort of clarity that you would expect from an asst. manager. I was seriously hoping for a quality replacement for CQ – obviously SAF didn’t think that was needed. And I think we’re paying for that during this crunch period.
Times have change no 1 man can run a club from ground up anymore we need a strong character behind the scenes i think mike was too friendly with first team players as youth coach they have no respect 4 him
Fat box bearded cunt.
Sean – fuck off and die you scouse son of a bitch.