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PICTURE: City Fans With Munich Graffiti At Old Trafford

Manchester City fans have written ‘Munich’ in sky blue spray paint outside the Bishop’s Blaize down the road from the ground as well as on the walls of our Carrington training ground. After threats that City fans were going to deface the Holy Trinity statue, security guards were put in place to guard it this evening.

None of this should come as any surprise after some United fans used red spray paint to vandalise City’s match day pub, Mary D’s, with “35 years” and “Foe cunts” (in reference to former Manchester City footballer, Marc-Vivien Foe, who died in 2003). Tit for tat in terms of sick remarks.

City fans claim it’s a minority who behave like this. That goes without saying, surely, given there’s only a couple of examples of graffiti. But is it a minority of people who sing “Carlos Tevez is a blue, he hates Munichs” every week? No honest City fan could claim it’s just one or two fans when the chants are audible on MOTD every week.

Three years ago, City fans came to Old Trafford, observed the one minute’s silence to mark the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaster, and even sang a song for Frank Swift, the former City goalkeeper who died in Munich. Only four players in the history of the club have made more appearances than Swift. It’s sad that City fans still repeatedly choose to mock United over Munich when a legend of their own died that day. No respect for their own dead, so why would we expect them to have respect for ours?

This is how it feels to be City.




 

129 Comments

  1. Adi says:

    Football. FFS.

  2. musca says:

    same ‘ol city

  3. rj93 says:

    lol, theyl be sorry 2mora

  4. CedarsDevil says:

    Sick remarks are just that. Idiots exist on either side of the city. Not all our fans are angels are they?

  5. mickjk says:

    disgusting vermin.

  6. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Thanks for the perspective Scott. Part of the high jinks, but we similar juvenile element.
    Hope we can work to rid the banter of the derogatory references to killings.
    Lots of positives for fans on both sides without having to go to idiotic statements about the deaths of heros, sons, fathers, etc

    Hope and a prayer.

  7. FletchTHEMAN says:

    ** we have a **** sigh!

  8. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    If You KNow ou Football History
    If You KNow THeWhole Score
    You Will No Doubt Realise
    Frank Swift Also Did Die
    And You Wont Be Singing Munich ANymore

    My 4 year has been singing that song a year now , yet what my 3 year old knew twat men in blue dont seem to have the brainpower to cop

    Twats of the highest order

  9. smartalex says:

    R.I.P Flowers of Manchester.

  10. pritch the red says:

    Lets get stuck into the bastards lets make it that hot the wankers never come again i fucking hate them and old scar face COME ON YOU REDS

  11. CedarsDevil says:

    GHTT

    That song has touched my heart mate……..God bless em

  12. MG says:

    When the gaffer said small club mentality he wasn’t wrong was he?

    We will have them tomorrow

    Billions do not buy you class – might make you the richest team in the world TM but doesn’t buy you class

    We are a class apart – I would never demean my opponent like that.

  13. Boris says:

    Just as bad as the knobhead who sprayed Mary D’s.

  14. willierednut says:

    Cowards. Teach them a lesson tomorrow lads. Do it for the babes!

  15. grayfield18 says:

    Knob heads on either side. people who wrote that and the Foe stuff are just below scum. The true City fans turned up at the Munich Memorial and played our part without incident or problem. You cannot write off a whole clubs fans on the actions of one or two. I wouldn’t about United fans on the basis of what some idiot wrote about Foe.
    When you talk about being a classy club ask you self what happened to the survivors & how your classy club treated them or their families. Threw them out of the club houses, did nothing to celebrate Duncan Edwards grave till many years later and only played a testimonial years and years later, whilst at the same time traded on the legacy and even sold advertising rights to the memorial – class eh ?
    Foe – we retired his number, looked after his family and still do !!

  16. Blueboy says:

    “join city and you’re dead”

  17. FletchTHEMAN says:

    GHTT, Cheers mate, Love to Emily and your lady from all of us.

  18. Red Till Dead says:

    SCUM. The Blue quarter of Manchester are vermin

  19. MG says:

    grayfield18

    That’s fucking cheap coming from you and you are a complete fucking waste of time for saying what you said in the way you said it.

    United just broke as a club – not only that the stiff upper lip of the day made sure that their was no emotion as far as the club was concerned towards it’s dead.

    You are mistaken and sadly up your fucking ass if you equate what United as a club did to what your fans do – fucking scum and you have just proved it.

    Yet the human tragedy was felt throughout everyone that worked for United – that of course is something that you have missed because you choose to belittle those very people that were washing the kits of the babes one moment and then having their coffins ready the next. Those people that built the club were the same people that had the bodies ready for their respective families

    You talk as if United were a rich club and had the means to look after their own – it never happened – it never happened for so many reasons that were other than you make it to be.

    You are fucking useless and in the same sentence you have bought shame on yourself for not knowing the facts before you spoke.

    Years later when George Best started drinking the stiff upper lip attitude within English football was still alive and kicking – Sir Bobby Charlton is the first one to admit it and admit if it were so different like it is today a great like George Best could have been saved from his eventual downfall.

    This is what makes me different from you – in our moment of true pain I understand why United could never look after their own – but that never meant that their was never a human cost to it – it was and you have no idea of it – because at the end you stand behind your billions and want what we have.

    Take your best shot asshole – you’ll never come close.

  20. BlueWolf says:

    Both are just as bad and sick as each other – it’s about time fans on both sides grew up. We lost Frank Swift on that lane FFS!

  21. hammertime says:

    Absolutely classless. Scouse and City fans singing/writing Munich in any way simply reveals the content of their club’s character: poor, classless, and full of hate.

    Manchester United = Blue Chip Organization

    Manchester City = Joke of a Business

  22. Jikka says:

    So just how long did it take your club to throw out of their homes the survivors that were so crippled as to be no use anymore. 3 months was it? And how come Munich was never remembered for the next 20 years? And how come the families got 46,000 each from the remembrance testimonial but Cantona got 200,000 just for playing? Sick sick grafitti but you are such a bunch of hypocrites.

  23. smartalex says:

    grayfield18 hates his parents for making him blue.

    My old man said be a city fan;
    I said bollocks you’re a cunt;
    I’d rather shit a bucket with a big hole in it,
    then be a city fan for just one minute…

  24. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Well now. This was fairly civil until the bitters came in.

    @GHTT, apologies for the timing of my last post. No way to know it would be off loaded into a truck load of bile!

    @MG Cheers mate.

  25. MCFC says:

    I will start by saying that the graffiti is shameful, and I am disgusted by the person who decided to do it.

    I just find it quite funny coming on here, with the sweeping generalisations and the usual “all City fans are scum” bollocks, because one neanderthal decided to write some offensive comments on a wall. By that logic, you’re also calling yourselves scum because a red did exactly the same on the side of Mary D’s, in mocking the dead by writing ‘foe cunts’.

    I go home and away, and I have never sung a munich song at a match. Sure, I’ve heard it sung (by a tiny minority, I might add) but I don’t subscribe to the view that it is justified. It should be stamped out of the game. That goes for Hillsborough songs and the ones about the stabbed Leeds fans, both of which your own support is guilty of.

    Get off your high horses, because your own fanbase is guilty of similar misdemeanours and as such it sounds quite hypocritical. Banter can exist without such scummy songs and /should/ exist without such scummy songs.

    Shittest of luck tomorrow to you.

  26. willierednut says:

    Blueboy – We’re not saying we’re perfect. Ass holes on both sides.

  27. mattbw7 says:

    Grayfield just fuck off, you come accross all reasonable but you just couldnt help yourself, UTD where broke themselves at the time of the disaster and times where so much different then, dont you think its a sign of the later UTD that they made amends and still do

  28. grayfield18 says:

    CIty were not rich when Foe died in fact according to a professor who has just given evidence to the H Of Parliament they were on the point of bankruptcy.
    Really classy of you to swear all the way through your response.
    I got the facts from the book written by a United fan. Try reading it yourself.
    As to United not being rich what utter rubbish. They certainly had enough to look after the families if they wanted, just didn’t bother, but traded on it for years and years and oh they still are. Lets see we will honour the Munich disaster by a tasteful tribute and oh why not let AIG pay for it at the same time – lots of connection between AIG and the disaster there.
    Learn your own history before you spout off at others.
    City have always looked after their own and it is only because your club chose to go on about Swift that you try to twist it round. City looked after Frank’s family and made no issue of it.
    Pick up the book you might learn something – The lost babes – Manchester United and the forgotten victims of Munich by Jeff Connor. As i think i mentioned a Manchester United fan. I did not belittle the efforts of any individual, but your comments accept that the club gave no help to the victims of the disaster. Classy just like your swearing comments.

  29. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    When posts like these are made you often expect a city fan to come on here to voice their opinion. Some praise the perpetrators others condemn them. Both types just cannot resist but have a sly dig. At least with the former they are men enough to admit it but you grayfield18 are a snidey despicable worm of a human being. It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re having a jolly old knees up tonight celebrating this indecent act. Do me a favour and go and die where hopefully Frank Swift can knock 7 bells out of you in the afterlife.

  30. grayfield18 says:

    @ a variety of you
    The death of any footballers or anybody in fact gives me no pleasure. I don’t call you Munich’s.
    Btw my parents had no interest in football – they’re United fans !! Blame my Granddad !!
    Funnily enough i hope you win the title, though not by winning tomorrow. I prefer you to do it than London Clubs.

  31. mattbw7 says:

    Grayfield to say city where broke is twisting the truth as much now as about the times surrounding the Munich Disaster, so dont come on here being intially concilliatory just to go and prove yourself no better than the rest of your pathetic fanbase, how the fuck do you think you support Foes family now are you still broke you fucking plank, when I need a history lesson on my club I won’t be taking it from you or a book written from the perspective ” a united fan” when you are referring to someones work please quote the book the author and the publisher if not just crawl back into the bitter one eyed hoodie from where you came.

    Oh yes and you retired his shirt, go and fuck yourself

  32. smartalex says:

    ‘ you grayfield18 are a snidey despicable worm of a human being.’

    Hear! Hear!

  33. mattbw7 says:

    And by book and author i mean a utd fan not some one purporting be one and if you don’t loke my swearig just fuck off from spreading your baseless and point scoring bile on here.

  34. RedMegleeker says:

    That railing above needs a lick of paint to be fair.

  35. grayfield18 says:

    Read my 2nd comment i give you the book title and author, one would have expected you knowledgeable and erudite chaps to know such things. My mistake !!
    If you want the isbn i can get it for you……….
    By the way when Foe died we weren’t rich. Still that’s history and you loot don’t know too much.

  36. Kings says:

    Two bob cunts.

  37. smartalex says:

    We don’t care for your lying ass kissing grayfield18. Don’t suck up. You want to play good cop and bad cop. False, disingenuous sycophant, you have no knowledge, only twisted memories of misunderstood paragraphs in a book.

  38. mattbw7 says:

    And if you don’t want swearing try this on for size when it was shown about the Foe graffiti I took the time to go on City sites and offer my apologies, I didn’t feel the need to have a dig, rivalry give it me any day but you sir are just low because you used the cloak of respectable reply to lead us on to read the diatribe at the end of your first post. Both clubs have parts of thier history that they can’t be proud but this thread was not the place to start airing them as i think you can read that most of us deplore the mocking of the dead and because UTD didn’t act as the should have done you just used it as an excuse to have a go, people in glass houses!!!

  39. FletchTHEMAN says:

    MG and NRD.
    Spot on about the post war response of the Club. Even on the day, all United fans and the Club gave the dead a proper send off. Always going to be families who want more, and that has to be honored. Sometimes it takes a couple of generations or more to heal wounds of such a tragic day. But we do honor the dead and recognize that the manor of their passing was in the context of competition, competition on foreign soil no less and was not anything to do with the club. City fans on here seem to need to take a dig and twist it, which is why it is so pathetic from them.
    Babes died effectively as a part of a competition, a competition that brought honor to Manchester and to england. We don’t hide from it. We respect and honor it. City fans coming on here and cherry picking. Well at least we have books and books written about our history. Some praise the club. Some call on the club to do better, we all hope that it does do. But reflecting on day of such monumental tragedy and bending the facts to make a dig is really really low. Seems efforts to elevate the debate fail at times like these.

    As stated above, a hope and a prayer.

  40. mattbw7 says:

    And now FUCK OFF

  41. smartalex says:

    grayfield18 is despised by true city supporters.
    The disrespectful way you refer to Foe, and his demise shows your shallow callousness.

    grayfield18 is a despicable cunt.

  42. grayfield18 says:

    There you go then the review of the book on the amazon web site. Not my words, but i have read the book as well as a couple of others.

    If you get bored cos their are some big words in this then just read the last sentence !!

    The Lost Babes (subtitled Manchester United and the Forgotten Victims of Munich) is Jeff Connor’s compellingly readable account of one of the great tragedies in sporting history and its aftermath. The great manager Matt Busby had forged Manchester United into an invincible team in the 1950s. No one seemed able to halt the progress of these young and immensely talented players as they added the 1955-6 Championship Trophy to their accomplishments, repeating the feat next year. But all this was to change in the most tragic fashion when on the sixth of February, 1958, the plane bringing the team home from Munich crashed, ending the lives of eight of the Manchester United players along with other passengers on the plane. Britain (not just fans of the team) was devastated, as the careers of such talents as Roger Byrne (England’s Captain), Duncan Edwards, Tommy Taylor and Eddie Coleman were ended at a stroke. Connor describes this devastating incident with both vividness and sympathy, but he is equally to be praised for his handling of subsequent events, notably the lives of the players who survived the crash and the families of those who didn’t. The Lost Babes describes the inauguration of one of the great football teams in sporting history, and does so against a richly drawn panoply of the Britain of the day. He is unsparing and when describing the aftermath of the plane crash, with the club making the Munich tragedy emblematic while not looking after the survivors or the families and relatives of those who died. Of the surviving members of the team, some were unable to play ever again, and the case of the celebrated Jackie Blanchflower, severely injured in the crash, became a cause célèbre, as he became homeless when he was abruptly removed from the club house very shortly after the accident, with virtually no compensation.

  43. willierednut says:

    Big Red machine.

  44. mattbw7 says:

    Grayfield I asked for a UTD fan not one purporting to be in an effort to sell copy!!!!

  45. CBS says:

    Its tit-for-tat and any decent human being would find what was written by the “utd fans” about MVF or the “city fans” about the Munich disaster completely deplorable. As for SmartAlex, you have shown what sort of a idiot you are, you probably think its all great. BTW the “my old man” song was sung by city fans back in the early nineties and it wasn’t very funny first time round, it certainly isn’t now, its embarrassing!!

  46. mattbw7 says:

    Ok you asked for it, your club really looked after Malcolm Allinson in his latter years didn’t they

  47. willierednut says:

    Not your words, but still you speak. Word to the wise, engage your brain, before you try to belittle Manchester United. No shame City fans. Small club mentality.

  48. smartalex says:

    ‘Oh, me lads,
    You should have seen us coming,
    Fastest team in the League,
    Just to see us winning,
    All the lads and lasses,
    With smiles upon their faces,
    Walking down the Warwick Road,
    To see Matt Busby’s aces.’

  49. smartalex says:

    grayfield18 says ‘ i have read the book as well as a couple of others.’

    HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

  50. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Good bit of journalism Scott, short sweet straight to the point and balanced. The reason why therepublikofmancunia is undoubtedly Manchester Uniteds No1 blog. And to be honest there isn’t much more to strive for.

    Citys cunts but its tit for tat. We will let the real level of class show on the pitch tommorrow and I expect a 4 goal drubbing. The passion and grit of a small time club counts for nothing when you try and buy ability and class. Once you go down that path you have to be aware of what your paying for and in Citys case its chuckle brothers worthy, a chicken in a basket style level of entertainement.
    My prediction.
    VDS,Rafeal Smalling Vidic Evra. Nani Carrick Fletcher Scholes Park. Rooney.
    20th minute Rafael sent off for nutting kettle neck.
    70 minutes of United pressure ending in a brace by Scholes and a sub appearance and goal by Giggs. Do we rely too much on the past ?? who nows but to rely on the arabs for a 3-0 loss is a fucking laugh.
    3-0 but I thought you said a 4 goal drubbing goat the alert will start to shout. Did I forget to mention the first five minute blaster from Carrick.

    I remember at school in Lowestoft there was a City fan (god i laughed) who had a fist shaped head, i know this because I used to call him the Mitten, Andy he took a good beating.

  51. mattbw7 says:

    And you still dont get it do you Gfield, the reason why everyone is having a go is because you came on here and in your first sentence you where balanced however as yorr post went on you sank into the typical bitter postings we see all the time. You reference a book that was written with too much bitterness in its self, the fact you have taken it to be total fact and not read other books and accounts on the period to give a more a balanced view to your opinons evidences that you only read and take on that which you can use as propaganda to fuel and spread your anti UTD feelings. So in the end your opinion is of no value to me and as such is worthy of the many fucks I’ve aimed in your direction, which for some reason you took exception too and this after besmirching the name of a club that is not perfect and never has been especailly when compared to the virgin mary history of City

  52. smartalex says:

    That’s a good line-up Goat. I presume it’s 4 – 3 – 3? I went 4 – 5 – 1, with Giggs and Berbatov instead of your Fletcher (eye-socket injury?) and Rooney (inconsistent.) Who knows…

  53. RedLife says:

    There are morons all over this country and they come in all colours and supporting all teams.

    I do not care what some clown has sprayed on a shitty wall. Life is too short.

  54. grayfield18 says:

    The club did look after Mr Allison – don’t know who the man you mention is ! I saw Mr Allison at quite a few matches from my seat in the Mancunian Lounge and had a chat to him and Colin Bell whose table he was on. We ignored him that much that his cortege went passed the ground. Talk about getting your spelling or facts right. Great attack that one !!

    Well done smartalex quite funny.

  55. geneside says:

    we should start with chicha and berba instead of rooney and berba…

  56. Doghouse says:

    City are beneath contempt and should remain so. United is the greatest team in the fucking world. City are some cunts who nobody would even have heard of if they weren’t from the same city as United.

    Some people say you can’t judge a whole club by the actions of a few fans, and sure, in the case of United this is true. There are millions of us. No small group of fans speaks for the whole. But City don’t even have have enough fans to fill their stadium when Juventus come to town. Attendances, even with low ticket prices, would seem to indicate that there are not many City fans at all. So yeah, when City fans shout Munich, they represent the club, because it’s not like there’s some vast well behaved majority of City fans out there as there is for United.

    City is a small club, which means the fans have a large degree of control over how they are perceived by the rest of the world. Yet they choose to be perceived as bitter blue scum, with a repulsive fixation on our dead.

  57. smartalex says:

    grayfield18 is not a football fan.

    If he was he wouldn’t be spending all his time here.

  58. lawman10 says:

    grayfield, what are you doing on this united site in the 1st place??
    I as a united fan would not dream of visiting a blue site!!
    so be a good boy and fuck off our site you sad little man.

  59. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Question:
    If you read a sign in the wilderness.
    And you incorrectly interpret the message.
    Do you really know how to read at all?

    Some people read to be educated about what they didn’t know, and to gain new perspective.
    Some people read to bolster their own preconceived ideas.
    Surprising that so many read without ever pausing to think.

  60. willierednut says:

    La la la la la la la la la, 4 3! la la la la la la la la, 4 3! The king of the fedoras big Malcolm RIP

  61. MG says:

    grayfield 18

    Again you are trying to talk about something you have no clue of

    One book that I have and read does not make it the foremost view point on the subject of the Babes

    One authors point of view does not make it the foremost view point on the subject of the Babes

    Jeff Connor is not the be all and the end all of the account of the Babes

    Again you do not consider or take into consideration the wealth of the club at the time – you do not take into account the era of the loss of the Babes – you do not take into account the hardships that befell an era where footballers were not important

    Again and again you do not understand that Manchester United are a family – those people that worked for United did what they could to look after the Babes and do whatever they could for the bodies that came back

    You do not take into consideration that it had to take one Sir Alex Ferguson to come to United and make right every wrong that the club made towards the Babes

    You do not have the courage and neither does anyone else outside United to appreciate that one mans heart and dedication gave United it’s soul back – gave United it’s heart back.

    All of you fuckers out there are too obsessed with ridiculing Sir Alex for all what he has achieved but you do not give the man his dues and respect that he gave back to Manchester United the one thing no one ever did – and that is it’s identity.

    We defy people like you that do not believe – countless generations on from the Babes it means something to us – all through Sir Alex Ferguson’s desire and wish that the story be retold for generations to come – for the story not to be forgotten – for the memories of those that fell for United never to be forgotten

    You are a heartless piece of shit that thinks he’s cool enough to make a point.

    You are not – I’ve been studying the Babes for over 18 months – you cannot equal the way United did not look after their own to those in your corner that disrespect our fallen.

    If you want to be educated then do so if not fuck off – one author has no right over the telling of the Babes story.

  62. grayfield18 says:

    Mattbw7 i have actually read other books on the subject. That was the point i was making that someone thought funny.
    I don’t make assumptions like you do.
    I don’t swear – it is nice to use English which is a rich and varied language which allows you to express your self without the invective.

  63. smartalex says:

    greyfield18 tells us that he reads. So what?

    Fuck off. We don’t care for bitters that sneak in wearing balanced clothing. Anyway, you are only here to see if you can upset people. You tarnish the deaths of loved departed souls of Manchester for your own sick amusement. You are revolting.

  64. Tom Addison says:

    Jesus, don’t get me fuckin started. As with most football fans who are well behaved when in the public eye, they did it for recognition, a way of saying “Look at us, look at us! We’re the best fans in the world, we observed a minute’s silence!” (see Liverpool fans). What was it Chris Rock said? Something about wanting respect for shit you’re supposed to do? I’d rather they’d be honest about their venomous, pathetic, bitter hatred for us than pretending to respect a minute’s silence and then doing shit like this.

  65. lil' k says:

    This is how it feels to be City.
    This is how they support City.
    No class, no respects, and inhumanity is fine for them.
    No trophy……they’ll never win anything, until the end of time.
    This is how it feels to be City.

  66. United1990 says:

    Just 1 word >> pathetic

  67. rusholme ruffian says:

    I’m a City fan and to say that I was upset when those morons sprayed those comments about Foe on Mary D’s wall would be an understatement. Equally, I am utterly horrified to see this. Football is football; banter is banter. Death is another subject and one that should never be used in the way that some mindless idiots choose to do so. It fills me with the most enormous shame when City fans sing and chant about the Munich disaster. I admit that when they do, I bow my head in respect for those great United legends. I hope that tomorrow delivers a fantastic open game and I for one will spare a quiet moment’s thought for the tragic Busby Babes when the almost undoubted chorus begins.

  68. ctid says:

    im a city fan but its sometimes quite funny to look what you lot are saying….but i gotta say this one contains some of the worst stuff i ever read……
    to say that you can judge all citys fans by the actions of a handful is a joke….vast vast majority of us city fans would never dream of taking the piss out of,or scoring cheap points over, the munich disaster.Dont believe me?????how many of us ruined your silence to mark the anniversary??? oh yeah it was zero,zilch,none of us.

    To waste your time discussing what some clueless brainless halfwit paints on a wall probably gives him some pleasure. Having said that, we did the same when some utd fans did what they did re: Foe,and looking back I wish we hadnt.

    Just lets concentrate on the actual game.

    Cheers

    (and I’ll take a 0-0 draw now thanks)

    Dont waste your time.look forward to the game

  69. willierednut says:

    Fear the Roon, Garfield18.

  70. redbob says:

    Pathetic.
    And that goes to those who vandalised Shitty’s pub as well.
    Stupid and unnecessary..

  71. Costas says:

    Cunts. What else is new?

  72. MrKirie says:

    Grayfield, what do you honestly get from this? I’m not claiming to know the full story on the aftermath of the Munich disaster, but regardless of what’s facts and what’s not, there is absolutely no need to come on here and be so disrespectful. There are scumbags who support all football teams, and some of them show absolutely no respect. They act like immature idiots, making themselves feel better by making fun of what is to every normal human being just a tragic, tragic accident What was written on the wall of that pub, and also in the picture posted here is just proof of their extremely small brains and lack of empathy. There is a place for these creatures, but it sure as hell isn’t here. As for me, I despise city, but it would never even cross my mind to riddcule someone who died in tragic circumstances, just to yank a chain or two.

    Now, be a dear and find some blue’s that share your views and then have a conversation with them.

  73. grayfield18 says:

    @willierednut uhm the man who played so well for England in the week and so well against Wolves last weekend !! btw Garfield always came out on top so quite like the joke really.

    More important tomorrow for you then us !!

  74. grayfield18 says:

    Read my comment mrKirie i have never once ridiculed the death of anyone and quite specifically say the contrary despite being accused of this by many of your co-posters who don’t bother to actually read what i said.
    This is a public arena and it came up on the newsnow link. It is interesting to see others point of view. Unlike you i don’t despise another team i don’t support them and have been interested in the history of both throughout my life.
    Actually unlike your blogs which constantly talk about City we don’t talk about you that much.

  75. RedMegleeker says:

    Actually, if a sufficient undercoat had been applied initially there might be such a visible wearing now.

  76. MG says:

    grayfield18

    You equated those that disrespected Foe with Manchester United disrespecting their dead – no in fact you didn’t quite clearly you suggest that the latter was far worse by suggesting that being a classy club that’s how we chose to ridicule them.

    Now either you are a fucking jackass of the highest order or you are thicker than I think you are.

    I have personally told you that the two can never entwine – I have given you the reasons yet again through sheer fucking lunacy you are continuing an argument for no reason.

    Do yourself a favour fuck off out of here and your delusion to yourself. If you want respect then act accordingly – by thinking you know something you know fuck all – again you do not take into consideration every man woman and child that were connected or working for United at the time that suffered when Munich happened and everything in it’s aftermath.

    Unfortunately it isn’t as done and dusted as you make it – Munich happened United team die and club don’t give a shit

    You are bang out of fucking order and you are wrong.

    I know what you have said and you are not listening to what I am saying. Either have the human capacity to understand and learn or seriously fuck off.

    Once again seriously since you have no desire to listen fuck off.

  77. citylad says:

    I would just like to say that i dont agree with either the graffiti at Mary D’s or that outside Old Trafford. Especially if some of our fans were heading to the memorial to tarnish that, then that is just pure sick. It is a sad culture that we still have some fans at both clubs who do this.

    I would say it goes across rivalries in England and it’s something we must fight to rid our game of. Ive never sang a Munich song at a City home or away game.

  78. willierednut says:

    Garfield18 – The player city would love to sign, eh? Lets see if yous have the balls to come out and play a bit of football mate. Mankini stank the place out, at wastelands, with ultra negative tactics.

  79. King Eric says:

    Rusholme ruffian. Fair play pal.

  80. wayne says:

    @Garfield 18 you make it sound like jackie blanchflower retired from football and became homeless and broke thats just a lie.he retired a year after the crash and opened a newspaper shop,then he worked for a bookmaker,then he was a pub landlord,then got into printing,then studied finance and became an accountent,then a after dinner speaker, so at what part was he homeless and broke?

  81. smartalex says:

    rusholme ruffian
    Thank you for expressing your view as a City fan. I am sure that most football fans feel the same feelings of horror and shame when faced with the spiteful, even evil works at Mary D’s and Bishop’s Blaize.

    As to the game, may it be injury and card free.

  82. m beany says:

    I’m disgusted at how duplicitous you so called honourable united fans have been in this article.

    We’re not the joke. You are. Pathetic.

  83. wayne says:

    @m beany duplicitous, let me guess one of your xmas presents was a word a day toilet paper,see if the next piece says 35yrs

  84. smartalex says:

    Good evening wayne!

    m.beany knows of our honourable reputation.

  85. willierednut says:

    Mr bean lol.

  86. smartalex says:

    Thinks he’s the bee’s knees does he? Well one fucking beany is useless, especially after we Kneecap Yer!

  87. wayne says:

    @Smartalex lol what a fucking laugh the first comment was 19.26 his came at 23.42 its taken him 4 hrs 16 mins,to start at A and finally found the perfect word duplicitous,seriously can’t make that shit up.

  88. willierednut says:

    If city fans enter our sector, show them the way home. Don’t give them a map though.

  89. smartalex says:

    wayne The twat accuses us of duplicity (dupli-city), when we are United.
    Also, it means ‘deceitful’. Where was the article ‘duplicitious’?
    Clearly his toilet paper is single ply, with no word meanings attached.

  90. willierednut says:

    Lend them a torch.

  91. smartalex says:

    Friends, RoMans, Replikans, lend them a torch.

  92. wayne says:

    who the fuck uses duplicitous,i must hang with the thick crowd,me thinks mr.bean was trying just a little to hard

  93. smartalex says:

    Lend them 2 torches the duplicitious cunts!

  94. Nani_Are_You_OK says:

    Fucking scum, pure and simple.
    No city (or utd) fan should mock the dead. This is the first time Ive heard of utd fans slagging of vivan foe and its a bit repulsive to be honest. But fair play scott, you wont hear chants about Vianav Foe ao OT. Cunts have nothing else to sing about so they sing about our saddest day (as if was their proudest). Hope utd players see this tomorrow and tear the cunts apart.

    UTD TIL’ I DIE!

  95. mattbw7 says:

    But grayfield please look at your first post it was full of assumptions, the fact that you read and quoted from ONE book is not the whole evidence of the piece however much you might like to protest. And I’m glad you’ve spent time in the corporate areas of city, how was the blue ketchup. If I choose to use invective when addressing you surely thats my perogative and something which the english language allows, quite why you think the opposite is beyond me or perhaps you think it conveys something on your part that reinforces your argument, you are of course entitled to that point of you, though if you don’t like my choice of vernacular, fuck off.

  96. footballislife says:

    don’t put city fans into this category on their own.. i for one and i know many fans who sit around me who swap out the word munich for united in the songs we sing.. it’s a small majority who take it to the extent that these sicko’s clearly have.. however be careful of throwing bricks in glass houses, i have heard on a number of occasions the song united sing of having won the cup so many times ‘without killing anyone” aimed at Liverpool by more than just a token few in the old trafford crowd.. there are always those who take rivalry beyond the bounds of football and into dark and depressing depths but don’t tarnish all city fans with that brush.

  97. jespermoses says:

    We both have some idiots for fans so no use moaning about.

  98. mattbw7 says:

    Yeah you’re right jesper, thething is grayfield is on here, its not a city site!!!

  99. jespermoses says:

    @mattbw7………I dont expect anything else……once a bitter always a bitter.

  100. Blue Loon says:

    We do have a few morons at ours same as any other club, but it wasnt that long ago you guys were singing about going down in ” russian submarines” was it chaps ?? and it wasnt just one or two of you was it….so can we stop bitching now please and get on with the more serioust job of kicking the holy shit out of each other for 97 minutes and may the best team win …

  101. devilsadvocate says:

    Lads ant we rise above this blue shite?
    Rather thab hesring what we wanr maybe we should ignore the blue cunts sing our songs and know that we stand for all that is good in football? Shitty stand for all that is wrong with this world. No class no clue no idea fuck em. If I’m gonna spend my time getting angry its at the dippers city simply don’t matter

  102. Ash says:

    Guys why are we wasting our time arguing with the most uneducated and with no class people.
    Shitty as they are rightly called are classeless cunts.
    They are so deluded that if asked to them who is better between gareth fuckin barry and paul legendary scholes they will say fucking barry.They are deluded.Acity fan who is reasonable would never come to a united blog at first because he would know that city are not in uniteds league.
    Someone please tell them that trophies count and not money.
    Anyways i hope we beat them.Even a draw is not acceptable.
    R.I.P Busby babes
    R.I.P Foe

  103. Dave Malaysia says:

    @ MG : LEGEND. Tell it as it it dude.

  104. sean says:

    Every club has its idiot fans. It really is quite sad that you use this as a cheap reason to criticize City…..’This is how it feels to be City.’.

    This doesn’t help anyone. I repeat, every single club has some lunatic fans. I do suspect some reds are happy when they see any reference to ‘Munich’ as it gives them reason to have a dig at City.

    Think about that, I think you will find it’s true-not in every case, but in some.

    Hope today’s game passes without any trouble.

  105. grayfield18 says:

    I have grown up on the Kippax, been through all that and still would stand given the choice. I have done well in life and can afford to pay for my own trips to Eastlands in the Mancunian Suite. I am far more regularly in the stands than there.
    A number of you have a view, i have a different view. At least i have given you the main basis of my view. Not a one of you have mentioned where you get your opinions from. I do not doubt for a second the human tragedy of the Munich disaster, i do not belittle the feelings and actions of the people at the sharp end and the way they mourned. I do not for one second accept that the club was broke and had no ability to look after their victims properly.
    As to swearing, it is base language and leads to strong reaction calmer words lead to better debate and better understanding. I have learned from the chap Wayne at 23.22 and will certainly re-visit the issue.

  106. MrKev says:

    As a city fan, this disgusts me & always has done. Sadly, there will always be morons who go to the lowest levels to get a rise. Clearly, this happens on both sides, as you say with the Foe stuff.
    Both sets of fans should be ashamed if this idiotic minority.

  107. Ash says:

    @sean
    Dude you shitty guys are comical in everyones eyes and not only in uniteds eyes.City are bought by a arab tycoon and you guys think you are equal to united , isn’t that a comical thinking.
    Anyway i agree with yu that the game should finish trouble free.Hope we spank you guys.
    UNITED FOREVER

  108. mattbw7 says:

    Grayfield, get over yourself regarding what part of the english language is used, what leads to strong reactions is your blinkered view of the what happened at OT, I’m afraid I can only reference Eamonn Dunphys a strange kind of glory as a book on UTD (Ihave read many biogs but they aren’t relevant here) but then he’s another embittered writer and while at 44 I can’t claim to have been around at the time of Munich however my Grandad, his 4 sons where and all reds (no blue splits in our family) and they where often as I am now unsparing in thier critisism of UTD and yes you are correct there where some actions by UTD that could have been called into question however you take your opinion from one source and are judging without accepting the clubs financial state, the general attitude prelevant at the time with regard to players.

    I too like you have done well enough in life to pay for more expensive seats (though I accept we aren’t in a dick measuring contest here) indeed I have contemplated such but ultimately giving up my seat in the stretford end is not something I’m prepared to do, even when Ive been offered corporate hospitality I’ve given it my Dad, who rarely attends now.

    I suppose what I’m saying is I’m a realist as to how UTD behaved in the past and they have never been a club that has had a whiter than white history but to come on here and pontificate in the way you do is entirely typical of some of your clubs fans. So you can take your pretend moral mound over swearing, your one eyed perspective on history and fuck off, or better still just turn your back on this blog Poznan style.

  109. micheldu9 says:

    at least city fans are proper football fans.utd morons.i lauph at you morons and ima grimsby town fan.morons get a life.

  110. Tommo Southern Blue says:

    Reading the comments from both sides on here I’m stunned by the hatred. I actually think you enjoy it! Scum doesn’t even begin to sum up some of the people on here. The Munich and Foe bile will never end until you actually think about what you’re doing.

  111. Ash says:

    @MICHEL MORON
    First of all your english is like that of your moronic coach man moron cini(I hope you understand whai i mean moron)
    Second city have proper fans?Really.You must be an absolute moron then.
    So behave like a proper man and not like a moron which you are.
    So moron go to your blog and discuss you deluded thoughts with deluded people(You know who iam referring to moron).

  112. cockney red says:

    If you’re were so hurt and insulted by this grafitti when you walked past this wall, why did you photograph it and put it on the world wide web? Only a few other drunks would have seen it.

    Now we’ve all been wounded by the name of this german town where something happenned 53 years ago, which must never be mentioned, like “the scottish play”. I was just starting to get over it, too!

    I’m going to knife a load of city fans for the heartache and pain this has caused. That is what you want by spraying “Munich” all over my laptop screen, isn’t it?

  113. Scott the Red says:

    cockney red – Erm, this picture was from the Evening News.

  114. willierednut says:

    The problem is, City fans will come on here and try to justify their actions, like Garfield18. I don’t think you would find many United fans, going onto City blogs/forums, to justify their hatred of City. Don’t know about any else, I find It insulting, when a City fan comes on here and tries to school United fans on the Munich disaster, and then claim the relatives were treated badly by the club. We get It, you hate us and I’m sure It’s vice versa, but don’t come on here, preaching, you sad individuals.

  115. smartalex says:

    Well said willierednut at 11:34! Well said!

  116. grayfield18 says:

    It’s alright Mattbw7 i accept Man United have all the biggest dicks. Proved it on here often enough.

  117. grayfield18 says:

    Well said dickthered except you haven’t actually bothered reading my comments and not in a single one do i condone what the unidentified people who did this at Man U have done. It’s easy to have a cheap dig if you don’tbother to base it on anything that someone wrote.

  118. willierednut says:

    Bitter much? Go home wee boy. Rooney, showed the berties the way home ha ha ha.

  119. grayfield18 says:

    Not bitter we are gonna catch you thats why you talk about us so much. First goal for the Rooney against the club he was gonna sign for he spoke the truth before he stayed on…

  120. willierednut says:

    You couldn’t catch a cold. See ya.

  121. grayfield18 says:

    Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. Ad astra per aspera

  122. mattbw7 says:

    Grayfield, you spunkbubble, I did reference a book so read my posts you plank, and i do believe it was you who started the dick measuring contest which I attempted to difuse, I know not what the latin is that you downloaded from somewhere and I care so little for its meaning I cant even be bothered to get it translated apart from to say its a dead language in common with the death of your title challenge.

    Mon dieu, you a graceless one eyed tit.

    Mr Kev, I’m in agreement with you, two worngs do not make a right, there are pricks on both sides and Grayfield is one of that number.

  123. wayne says:

    blue cunts bet you any money they lose 2-1

  124. rusholme ruffian says:

    We were beaten by the better team: character, organisation, management, leadership and sublime skill. Maybe we’ll be there one day, but something tells me we won’t (‘typical City’) until Sir Alex retires. Even then he’ll undoubtedly be replaced by a manager that has the tactical and strategic know how required to keep us held back for some time. Should be an interesting few years ahead – all that I hope for is that this disgusting graffiti’d sniping stops.

  125. mattbw7 says:

    In total agreement re your graffiti comments RR but I don’t see it ending anytime soon, the sad thing about those that attacked the bish and those that made the Foe remarks probably never go to games, pathetic really

  126. rusholme ruffian says:

    Finally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12462959 I hope this sends out a message to other fans that want to use this sad, sad subject as a weapon against United.

  127. m beany says:

    Not really

  128. grayfield18 says:

    Interesting on these comments about lack of knowledge but recently spent time with son of a survivor and they do not feel that the clubs alleged poverty was justified in their treatment. The club made his mother sit with the man in hospital knowing that they had in fact separated and told her that should she not cooperate they would withdraw any support for the kids. That was the “kind” support from a poverty stricken winner in Europe.
    All the best Man U ! Listen to the family !!

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