The referee from last night’s game, Cuneyt Cakir, follows 38 people on Twitter. The vast majority of Turkish football teams and TV stations which is fair enough. But he also follows Cristiano Ronaldo, Real Madrid and their biased newspaper, Marca. Biased? Paid off? There’s got to be some explanation for that bent decision to send off Nani last night…
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And… It was still a red card
not the first time he screwed up..
http://www.totalbarca.com/2012/news/cakir-controversially-refereeing-spain-v-portugal/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1555290-meet-cuneyt-cakir-the-referee-who-doomed-man-utd-in-champions-league
fuck off. that was never a red card….you know it and I know it. He was looking to control the ball. stop being a dick
Fucking clueless decision from a fucking clueless turkish cunt c u in hell turk!!!!!
The cunt clearly is a madrid fan, or let me just put it that way
The cunt will always support any spanish team whenever they face an english team, so that wasn’t a surprise he sent nani off. In my had I didn’t for once think he would flash a yellow for that let alone RED, the whole were in shock, nobody expected him to caution nani let alone a sending off
We were the better team up until that point, its just one of those days where you just don’t get the decisions and it proved decisive
Absolute disgrace, the referee. Gutted! Football is still in the dark ages… to let one blind turk ruin not just a game but possibly careers and lives is just wrong. In rugby or cricket, this would have gone to the TV officials as a referral…And I’m still confused and trying to comprehend Roy Keane.
The power that referees have is disgusting. We havent seen the end of it. These guys sometimes literally determine where titles end and are never investigated. Disgusts me no end!
Head*
hmmm double standards remeber this posted on this very site in October http://therepublikofmancunia.com/picture-torres-should-have-been-sent-off/
@reddy – don’t bother trying to comprehend Keane. He’s doing his best to burn his bridges with United and having great success doing so. he seems to want to turn himself into Eamon Dunphy’s protegé with his deliberately controversial and often wrong opinions. ‘look at me…I’m roy…I’m still here…I’m still important….’ I’ve been a big fan of him for a long time but I am tiring of his bullshit. As usual the whole world is wrong and Roy is right. Yeah..whatever Roy.
Roy Keane is still bitter about the comments Sir directed at him.
He’s going out of his way to offend united.
By Keane’s logic, no player should life their leg up on a pitch as they are fully aware other players are on it. Half wit.
Going by you article: http://therepublikofmancunia.com/picture-torres-should-have-been-sent-off/
Then Nani was rightly sent off…
Seems Eurpean titles should stay in Spain.. Not a conspiracy theorist but that corner we were denied in the first leg is very significant. The referee knew that Manchester United have a knack and record for scoring late winners and felt it his duty to protect Real Madrid from us. Shit … shit…. shit they can fuck’n keep it… we will do the double.
Cunt of the Month hands down,.
Fact is we didn’t put away enough of our chances before, or after. Could have been 3 up. Think Madrid had one shot on target before the Nani decision.
Ref kept Madrid in the game. Arbeola could have been off in the first half for a shocking tackle on Nani. Then he makes a complete meal of the Nani challenge. You want to blame the ref, blame Arbeola for showing everyone what kind of fakery spanish football is all about. THIS, unfortunately, is UEFA football.
Hope UEFA do make some changes with this ref Cakir though. 5 red cards to english teams is a pretty suspicious standard from the off.
This is too funny not to post on here…
Arsenal’s statue of Bergkamp. A nice little celebration of highly dangerous play, at least if you ask one retarded turkish twat.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3427/redcardv.jpg
United played great last night 1-0 up and Madrid were clueless then that happen , football is corrupt you have to hope the betting syndicates have put money on your team., not heard much said about the penalty we should have had its a disgrace we went out like this
A possible rematch would happen maybe if it had a clear and direct influence on the result, but unluckily it was only a fucking helping hand so even if we submit complaints to the board the twat will have his own prerogative to the reasoning.
In 2010 world cup holand vs spain De jong and Alonso wot happens, did ref give De Jong red card?
Let’s be honest, if that was Arbeloa on Nani you’d all be calling for his head on a stick, it doesn’t matter what the intentions are, the rule-book doesn’t mention anything about intentions, it’s about what happens, studs are raised and he’s led into the collision studs first. If it’s a challenge on the ground it’s a red, it’s dangerous play at the end of the day if anyone knows what dangerous play is, it’s Roy Keane.
UEFA please check the ref’s bank balance after last nights game. In fact the tackle Arbeloa made on Evra was more blatant and intentional than that of Nani. The turkish league is corrupt and UEFA gets a Turkish dick for the game.
This claim doesn’t make sense. He also follow Lionel Messi, doesn’t he?
I’m over it, the ref fucked us but there is nothing that can be done now. I was extremely proud of the boys, they played their fucken hearts out and I would say alot of the younger boys have come of ageover these two legs. I’m sure the team will be pissed off, but we must move on. Belting Chelsea this weekend will help start the process.
Hi fellow reds. I generally dont comment on this site. Just like to read and hear the opinion of my fellow reds but with what happened last night, I am fucking angry and want to punch that gay ref in his face and throw him to the crowd to decide his fate.
For Roy Keane, that asshole must stay away from commenting on what happens at Old Trafford. He should rather concentrate on his club sinking skills. A message for Roy Keana, “Dude, you are still respected and idiolized by some reds. Fair enough. Dont fuck it up for you and shut the trap.” enough said. Still upset though.
Real Madrid couldn’t handle Giggs and Welbeck. Both were absolutely amazing over both legs.
I also must say Ferguson was spot on with his team selection and the tactics.
Also, Old Trafford was EPIC. Wish I had been there.
Might have a couple bad days, but waking up Red will always guarantee something to put a skip back in your day!
Some idiots say that it was dangerous play. WTF, Nani was not even tackling any one. That rat Ram – my-ass came charging towards Nani and collided in the process. Nani was trying to control the ball with soft toe. So how the fuck was that dangerous?
It was not Ramos but the other twat – Abreload or whatever his name is. But jerk of same class as Ramos.
DESTROYING FOOTBALL!
The fact he has a Cakir has a twitter account that follow spainish football, Real Madrid, and Barcelona is pretty shocking (if true).
Scott i wouldnt go that far…what would happend if he follow United?
for me still proud of the team and be a united fan,for the red card im sure its a plan ,the fxxking guy mean to let the virus win and waiting for the chance,its so poor for one fxxking guy can let 600000000+ peoples down.why the fxxking ref cost us so much, fxxking can anyone can create a ref robot and put the same standard program to his computer and we all live as one just imagine.fxxk
The Turkish ref fucked us up. We have no recourse & have to get over it. Bring on the FA Cup & the 10 games!
As a referee you should understand that you can’t follow teams or players that you then go on to fucking referee! Having the brain capacity of a chimpanzee clearly makes you unable to referee football matches.
Giggs, nani, clevz, welbz, actually the whole team was fantastic last night, valencia is returning to his absolute best
Rooney is really worrying me, he has lost his touch of consistency
In rooney now you’ll only get flashes of brilliance and good decision making which shows his maturity but he’s not a world beater anymore
This guys unfortunately has to be acknowledged
The starting line-up was inch perfect, we were comfortable before the ref decided to ruin everything
Everything tastes a bit dour when we were in with a strong shout for a treble.
Yes we’ve earned the premiership and yes we’re overdue an fa cup but damnit, we looked likely to win. I know I wouldn’t feel the same way if Madrid straight up kicked our ass (probably want some signing… ill figure out which one later :p) but we played brilliantly for 56 minutes.
important now to pick ourselves up for the chelsea game in the cup..great to have another big game to look forward to and get the farce that was last night out of the system.
So what if he follows Real Madrid and Cristiano Ronaldo? Are we saying the referee is impartial? I think we’re clutching at straws here. I can’t see how trying to control the ball was a red card but at the same time I can’t see who the referee follows on twitter affects his decision on whether he thought it was a sending off or not.
Keane chose to be a dick last night and cosy up to that Brummie that – he even managed to make Dixon look like he was talking sense! Even the way they described the rules was wrong. Keane was nasty about Nani too at a time when he will be distraught.
Poll might point to Rafael but in the same token Ramos had the ball hit his hand in the area, their keeper punched Vidic in the head, Ramos fouled in the penalty area twice so that abu
point is silly.
Very gutted and a couple bottles of guinness helped me to sleep last night.
With that said, couldn’t SAF make changes immediately Mou sent on modric? I am just asking folks, because i felt we needed to make some changes when we were a goal up and a man down.
Better luck next time and we must put away our chances in big games like this, this match should have been won in madrid.
GGMU
if i hear one more saying it was red i am going to fuckin break somebodys legs!! how fuckin deluded can you get when you think that is a red?!?!?!
A Barca fan here. It was never a red card. Nani’s foot may have been high but that is no reason for the red card. It would have been a red card if the ball was coming straight at Arbeloa and then Nani raised the foot. It wasn’t the case. Arbeloa came rushing toward the ball from a diagonal angle. So when Nani went for the ball, Arbeloa was no where in picture.
@Fletch THEMAN what is pretty shocking is that this guy has sent off 5 players playing for english sides in a matter of 2 years
http://soccer.indonewyork.com/referee-cuneyt-cakirs-recent-red-cards-all-english-sides/
Paid off? Hmm. Biased. Absolutely.
Well done, Scott, I doubt any “journalist” will find this information.
Today SSN announced that The Boss could face a UEFA fine for not attending the post match conference. No doubt if he had attended and not said anything due to his mood, they’d have fined him. If he’d spoken his mind they’d have fined him. Damned if his does, damned if he doesn’t.
Who’s taking bets that if they do fine him, it’ll more than the racism fines?
Sorry, I’m not usually this self pitying when it comes to United but I’m tired of us getting huge decisions against us and being told “everything always goes our way”. At least most of the fans of our rivals that I know agree it was a poor performance from the referee, but their sympathy means nothing compared to a Treble.
On with the Double.
nani was about 5 feet high with stds in the air.dangerous play red card end of story
Even if it was a bad ref decision, we have only ourselves to look at. Like dropping points to anyone. If you only have one goal you always leave yourself open.
It was a bad day at the office. Shocking from Arbeola, shocking from Ref, but that is football people.
In the end, Credit Mourine for making the decisive substitution that we didn’t counter. Fault our CB’s for not sorting themselves after the equalizer. You can find fault on many parts of the pitch.
What you can’t fault was the attacking play from our players and fans. Credit to United. Let’s just hope our clubs reactions (players surrounding the ref, or Fergies comments if they come) don’t prove a source for criticism or sanction.
Again, it was a bad day at the office after a magnificent start. That’s football people.
Stop moping and focus! We can’t let a result like this send us into a spiral of accusation and questioning.
Crap Ref ? Fair enough. Crap United ? …. Ha not on my watch!
Brilliant words from Sir Matt.
In spite of the disappointing result, we should be proud of our team.
We didn’t park the “bus”.
We didn’t play defensive.
We played like Champions, with nothing held back.
He also follows Galatasary, Fenerbache, Besiktas, Barcelon, Messi and several other clubs. To infer he was somehow biased towards Madrid is disingenuous to say the least.
He made a very poor decision. A decision which ultimately changed the tie but it was not because he favoured Madrid.
I really liked the way Mourinho acted. He seemed upset about the way the match ended. Wonder what he said to SAF?
And I dont know what’s up with Rooney. Look at people who werent as highly rated as he was, but now he is not as impact player (not underestimating his talents and ability) as they are. I should have been at a different level now.
I was a bit surprised with the substitutions, or the timing of the subs. Why did he wait till the 70+ mins to get Wayne Rooney on?
Why was Giggs not subbed when he clearly looked tired at the end?
Van Persie must start scoring now, he is missing sitters – by his standards.
I think rio aswell could face a sanction for his hands clapping at the officials after the final whistle
@Mashd
If Nani had been making a challenge for the ball I might have agreed with you but he wasn’t he was trying to pluck the ball out of the air and Arbeloa then collided into him. Nothing malicious from Nani, it was just a collision between 2 players that happen many times a game.
As others have said Arbeloa’s challenge on Evra was worse, he could see Evra and dived in catching him high up the leg. That carrys much more danger as he was diving in at pace at a player also gong forward.
And if we are talking about danger to the players then the worst offender was Lopez. He missed the ball and punched Vidic in the head. Seeing as it doesn’t actually take much impact to kill someone if you land a blow at the right part of the head then if Nani was a red then that was a red and penalty.
Also not sure how Ramos stayed on the pitch. There was a point where when a Freekicks was given against RvP whe he walked up to him and pushed him to the ground. Then the blatant foul n Evra in the box near the end
We all know England and the EPL is HATED by UEFA and FIFA.. But they could at least try and not be too obvious about it..
For example..
2008 : UCL Final Man United – Chelsea [Platini says is not good for European football that two teams of same country go to the final because it means that European football is losing its beauty.]
2012 : Barcelona and R.Madrid go to semi-finals. [Platini says he would love to see both teams in the final. None of them makes it.]
World Best XI all from La Liga, when UCL was won by an EPL team and none of those players made it to the final. There was a few Chelsea players who should have got into the World XI at least.. And Bayern Players tbh..
Even a few City players for winning the league (it hurts admitting this as I’m a United fan) but the likes of Agüero, Kompany and Yaya should have been there.. The likes of Piqúe was out injured for months and still got in?
is there any possibility that UEFA referee commitee will realease any official statement about last night?
bad night for us,but united will always grow stronger!
love from indonesia to all fellow reds..all the regulars in here!
sorry for my bad english btw
I really loved that reaction from RIO. I was gutted that the other didnt follow suit.
@mashd acthally the rules describe dangerous play as using excessive force so within that intent does have a part to play. Studs up is excessive if it is a challenge to a player – which Nani wasn’t doing. In the same game the keeper punched Vidic in the head – he didn’t touch the ball. Nani touched the ball first and was always first to the ball so Armband might actually have been fouling Nani. Roy Keane clearly wasn’t talking about the game he is just bitter – even Lee Dixon – who suggested that Rafael should start the game by kicking Ronaldo said it wasn’t a red card. Funny how Adrian Chiles read most of the rule out but not everything.
Over the tie,
Real Madrid put the ball in the net 4 times !
Man Utd put the ball in the net once !
Forget the excuses, face it,
United were second best !
Are some people clueless. If the ref follows the Spanish league which bloody team would he want to give the benefit. There were multiple biased decisions in both legs and sorry to say I really think we should have had all our subs up once the red came. For those who don’t think supporting a league or team means anything think back to the ref in a united shirt in a pub a week before a game he was supposed to officiate for us, he got dropped for that match as soon as the info came out and the record against mourinho to fergie needs to be adjusted mourinhio is a good manager but to many bad decisions drogbas offside goal for the title still gives me nightmares and this will too. Something needs to be done this truly felt like our year despite the challenges ahead. UCL is going to bundesliga now unless these clown refs mess it up
Dont know if any1 has mentioned it on here. But talksport did this morning. If nanis was deemed a Red card then surely the 2 fisted punch frm the keeper on vid the first half was dangerous too. Plus he could see vid. Every professional i have listened to has deemed it a yellow at least except that ref and ROY FUCKING KEANE.. Ive lost all respect for that man. Just comes across a bitter man. Totally gutted bout that travesty.. dont know what else to say.
this is how this fucker should have been dealt with
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151367450627983&set=vb.505867982&type=2&theater
Well JohnnyTheFox, I think you must have watch some other tie and assumed that it was the Man Utd Real Tie. From where I saw it, It was all United before the Ref fucked himself.
@Johnny theFox.
I’m betting football isn’t your thing.
Giving a 3rd-world ref a game like that. Pffffff.
is this true: Ref deleted twitter acc?
United played their hearts out last night. Was Cristiano even on the pitch for the first 60 minutes? Sir Alex got it right by putting Nani on the left….he saw that weakness in the first leg. Also correct in not starting Rooney. He did nothing in the first leg.
Some are saying it was a dangerous tackle. It wasn’t a tackle…..he was trying to control the ball. So no anyone who does a bicycle kick will be red-carded?
I do believe we need to work on our strategy for when we do go a man down. We were in shock for the 10 minutes after…. reminiscent of that “day we will never mention”
Their keeper was outstanding in the last 10 minutes.
I thought we would of brought Javier Hernandez on instead of Valencia and Young, we had quite a few chances after going down to ten men, some of those chances were tailor made for Hernandez especially the one where Robin van Persie had a shot and the keeper pushed it out in the path of Rooney who skied it. Ferguson’s team selection was spot on as we were on top. Modric may not be playing well in La Liga but he sure found his feet yesterday, he was Real Madrid’s best player, he changed the game. After Ronaldo scored I was really expecting to see Hernandez, he is faster than any of the Real Madrid defence and would of caused them problems. Yes the referee changed the game but let’s not do a Chelsea where we hound him out of a job.
@Johhnythefox
you sir are a cunt.
Fletch – you keep banging on about chances missed. If every shot on target went in,football will become cricket. United scored and were controlling the game, 11 men and united could still score again, the red card made a massive impact.
Diego – thanks for the laugh. I’ve got a friend from Arsenal who keeps saying that it was a deserved red card. The picture of Bergkamp’s statue will shut him up.
All of us in the whole world watched, that infront of cakir fucking eyes handball happened in the penalty box, 2 fucking times and he did nothing. what the hell!
hei cakir you are not suit to be referee you are suit to be a male bitch
I wonder who’s going to be cunt of the month for march then..
Seem to remember Rio tweeting when van Persie got sent off against barca that the ref (busaca)was one of the best around, how does the injustice feel now hypocrite, and as for the bergkamp statue, I don’t see an opposing players chest near his boot do you ?
There might be some history behind this.
Its a well known fact that Turks don’t like English people – the stabbing of 2 Leeds fans some years ago proves this. Every English team that plays in Istanbul is subject to the most violent hatred that other foreign teams don’t see.
This hatred might be because the UK press supported the Greeks against the Turks during the trouble in the 50s in Cyprus.
It may also be because UK people know that the Turks have a record of being the cruellest people in European history and they won’t let the Turks forget it.
I suggest those who are trying to argue that intention is irrelevant in a challenge go see the incident first, otherwise you will look like a complete fool. It wasnt even a challenge at all. The foul on Evra is what you call a bad challenge and that is what you call studs up, with the studs facing your opponent.
As gutted as I am at what was a shocking decision that effectively killed off the tie, I think we’re clutching at straws to say the ref was paid off. I could 100% understand it if he had a shocking game but really it was one (really) bad decision he made. It’s an awful way to go out but credit to the lads for sticking it to them until the death. We were really close to getting the 2 goals we needed. Chelsea will feel the backlash this weekend and there’s no way the lads will lose focus in the league. Onwards and upwards to finish off a cracking season : )
Real m will not get to the final if the ref did that in favor of his interest team.
Crazy UEFA, if refs are not to be blamed for their wrong decision why do they make them wrong you are even the bodies ruining football, if presidents can be blamed why not a mere ref,