Rafael da Silva was sent off against Tottenham Hotspur yesterday after a poor decision from referee Mike Dean. After the game, Spurs boss Harry Redknapp conceded the second yellow was a wrong decision.
However, the reaction of Rafael, which was certainly way over the top, even if slightly understandable given that he just been sent off for nothing, has been deemed worthy of an FA charge.
You have to wonder what Rafael did differently to Wayne Rooney. If anything, Rooney was the more aggressive.
Then you have to wonder what Rafael did which was so different to so many other players every week. Some players react worse than that for decisions nowhere near as bad but what happens to them?
Steven Gerrard performed a scissor tackle from behind on James McCarthy at Wigan last season. He was rightly booked and then stuck his fingers up at referee Andre Marriner and told him to “fuck off”. He was hilariously labelled “Stevie V” by The Sun the following day but no FA charge followed.
John Terry once famously tried to take a red card out of a referee’s hand after team mate John Obi Mikel sent off and repeatedly gets in the referee’s face. Is he ever charged? No.
Surely common sense would say take in to consideration that the lad has been wrongly sent off and warn him about his future conduct. But if the face fits, eh FA?
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Double standards.
I loved Rooney saying what he thinks of the whole thing and i would love it to be because he not only cares for the club sake.
But to be honest Rooney was let of the hook quite a few times but understandably Scott wasn’t going to include him to the fold.
By the way, beetroot face Redknapp says that Spurs have shown that they closing in on us after their draw yesterday. Based on that logic, what does that say about the likes of Fulham, Everton and West Brom then?!
Typical United hating FA – rest get let off and Rafael gets charged – how did know this was coming -
He deserved to be sent off it was a cynical trip which he tried to disguise. Shouldn’t be hit with an extra charge though.
if your not english then the FA couldnt care less about you
I think its because he was sent off, so the referee couldn’t ‘punish’ him. Rooney got a yellow so the referee dealt with him. Don’t know if Terry got a yellow, but if he did, then it makes sense there was no charge…
this is what happens when there are former City chairmans in the FA …. Fletcher’s reaction was just as bad – if not worse – as well.
deserved the red and lucky roo never went to when will these players learn !
I think you should go easy on the ref. Mike Dean is well know to suffer with colour blindness. He genuinely thought that rafael was a tottenham player. He knows full well that he is not permitted to send off players off, award penalties against, or in any way punish players of Manchester United. To be fair he applied the right amount of injury time considering Man U were hanging on and not chasing the game.
The FA had prepared a charge for the SAF onslaught that never came, so they crossed out the S and charged RAF.
He kicked the microphone.
You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly!!!
I agree with every single word.
And Rafa is younger, than the thug and tiny tears. The FA are clueless.
Go back to your abu boards arseraper sorry doctor
Perhaps he said horrible things, we just don’t know. I do know, however, that United fans should be the last ones complaining about this. Every third word Fletcher, Rooney, Ferdinand and Ratface says is abusive towards referees. It’s about time one was charged.
off topic.. but i think we should try out fabio for the left wing position!! if he doesnt have faith in obertan yet.. why not try fabio?? if hes worried about obertan tracking back.. surely he doesnt need to with fabio as hes a defender???? he was played in the left wing position in the last 2 reserve games and has done really really well
on topic.. that was never a second yellow.. ref fucked us over.. i thought we would have nicked it if it werent for dean!
It is a disgrace what terry, gerrard and rooney get away with on a weekly basis. All matches should come with a lip readers warning for vile language and abusive behaviour.
Rafael is becoming a major player this year and I hope this doesn’t change him. The only thing I want from him is not to rush in on some tackles.
Sorry but United fans are never going to get sympathy from anyone about decisions going against them- every supported of every team in the world thinks the authorities have it in for their side, every supporter of every team in the world (other than United) will tell you that United get treated far more favourably than anyone!
However, you are right. Although you lump Wenger in with hypothesis despite the fact he has been regularly sent to the stands and charged. But Rooney, Terry, Carragher and Gerrard are all foul mouthed filth who deserve the book thrown at them (especially Terry) but what do they all have in common? They’re English.
English football, despite only being in the position it is today because of foreign imports and influences, is disgracefully xenophobic.
arsedoctor – Here we go, another cunt posting his two penneths on our site. Fuck off you nugget.
A crock of shit. So we play his Bro there during the suspension (wink, wink).
I was impressed with the guy for his effort yesterday. The talk was about how he’d need to hunker down to his defensive role to neutralize Bale. So what does he do? He goes on a blistering run for goal and they have to stop him with a foul.
May the kid get better in every aspect of his game, yeah including his assessments of the referee! Dean asked for it and frankly if Raph hadn’t given it no one would. Give him a week or two on a beach with his young missus.
Absolutely a cast iron cert that this will be another Rio / Evra situation with a United player getting the book thrown at him and the maxm possible ban. I’d settle for three games right now. No lieancy will be shown for the fact that he is young nor that it wasn’t a booking offence.
RACISM
I’m a Gooner, I come in peace…
You make a very good point. Why haven’t Terry, Gerard and Rooney got the same treatment as Rafael from the FA recently??
Simple – they are ENGLISH.
Oh, and Wenger? Check your facts: http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2010/200910Wenger
He’s not English either. We’ve been suffering this sh#t for years.
k3p – Talk about entirely missing the point lol.
Paul – Players have been sent off for one footed challenges which have won the ball? I guess I haven’t been paying attention. Who?
I think it`s just bias Theo dives no one says anything even he he admits to it. Dudu dives and the world wants his head. Rafael is a good player ,but he will learn to calm down I`m sure.
@Dave Mack – if we admit the charge i suppose it can be a fine with no ban.
Just fix his hair like Fabios, the won’t have clue, which twin it is.
@ Kings good man why do twats even bother coming on here. Abu’s are pricks that dont have the balls to support a team. .
TheBoyInRed&white – United don’t expect any sympathy mate, It’s never forthcoming and we couldn’t give a flying fuck anyway.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2011/Jan/Video-Reserves-rout.aspx
FUBAR
Let me explain the FA’s decision Scott. Gerrard, Carragher, Terry and Rooney are all English. Rafael on the other hand is not English and therefore the FA will act. This is what really riles me where the FA are concerned. They are always the first to be holier than thou over racism yet in all fairness they are the biggest racists in football. They kicked off over Russia being chosen to host the 2018 World Cup because they have racism issues. Can someone tell me what the difference is our FA have very serious xenophobic problems. Surely xenophobia is a form of racism. I am utterly sick to the back teeth of our biased, inconsistent and disgraceful FA and FA stands for what they do for the game Flip All.
England didn’t get the WC
Blame United it’s all our fault
The FA always makes an example of United
It’s their way of venting their anger
The FA is a WC.
England lost the World cup
Blame United
England are shit
Blame United
The rules in football are rubbish
Blame United
And so on…
All
Blame
United
I think you will hear crap about making an example out of Rafael because young players have no respect blah blah. It’s a load of crap. When Rooney was 20, you ALWAYS heard that actions like those proved his love for the game.
smartalex
Right got it fella the FA is a WC
Nice one
Rafael needs to change his name to Ralph D. Silver and everything will be allright!
united.george
Funny absolutely brilliant
Ralph D Silver you are herewith declared as a fine and upstanding Englishman and the FA loves you dear Sir
It’s the FA Scott, we know they look to screw United over at every single possible chance so is anyone surprised by this?
Fuck them, they continue to do shit like this to fuck us over, and we continue to win which must drive them round the fucking twist!
We’ll bring big bad Wes back at right back and it won’t hurt us one bit
You should send this to the FA Scott Proper evidence!
I hope Rafeal contest’s the charge saying that knowing the FA they would add a game!!!
Check out this pice of s*** article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/852933-wayne-rooneys-behaviour-a-disgrace-against-spurs-mark-bright
If this is the guy that’s advices the FA on disciplinary matters then it’s no wonder that they do such a piss poor job of it.
Lets Sue Dean
there is a bigger suprise if liverpool played decent football, than the FA not charging a united player
what the fuck are arses doing here? if you wanna slate us then run to your little shitty forum. always calling us cheats but never EVER giving proof that we pay the refs. SHOW US YA FUCKING PROOF!!!
deluded cunts. now fuck back to your brothels.
Fuck the FA and it’s double Standards.
Laughed my ass earlier today, listening to talk shite show suggesting the FA contact Rafael’s “people” with a view to him playing for England. Funniest thing i heard this year surely
I’m kinda fed up with those Arse fans( not all of them ,only those who have not got a clue about football) who keep coming in here to talk about us..GO TO YOUR FOURMS
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You left out two other glorious instances also Scott…..Paulo Di Canio pushing the ref when at Sheff Wednesday getting a red and an 11 game ban…..and only recently Darren Fletcher doing the exact same thing to Howard Webb during a game for not giving Utd a free kick……what happened….nothing…not even a yellow card…….pffff….Utd get screwed by the officials….just ask Gary Neville this season……
“only recently Darren Fletcher doing the exact same thing”
It wasn’t the same. Do you ever stop to think how obscure your views are on football that you would see those two incidents as exactly the same. Unfortunately there are a lot of people like you and it usually ends up with the conclusion that united get all the decisions.
oh colie let me also add that Malouda and kalou elbow two different portsmouth players in the SAME GAME last season. Terry elbows a bolton player and they get NOTHING. rio ferdinand does the same and gets a four match ban. CLAP CLAP you can now fuck off.
How can the FA go so low in making these rash decisions? Surely he kicked the mic and given that he’s a kid, but Rafa’s not in the same light – or can’t be compared at all, sorry – to Terry, Gerrard and co. The decision-making board’s minds are as worse, dirty and twisted as that Wembley pitch they’ve tried to fix over and over and over…
As for the others who think United fans like us are looking for loopholes, please think and rethink again, and check you own players too. If you think some of us miss the point, then yours is much more too. Peace.
There is no doubt that Rafael is the young footballer of the year
Sorry obviously pushing the ref can be done in so many diferent ways…..Lol…Sure thing Brett whatever your smoking can you pass it around…..!!!!
“I’m kinda fed up with those Arse fans( not all of them ,only those who have not got a clue about football) who keep coming in here to talk about us..GO TO YOUR FOURMS”
In the end their so called invincibles only won the league in 2004 because of a massive favor from the fa in banning Rio Ferdinand. They know where their bread is buttered and maintaining the united decisions myth is why they are here.
Collie
What exactly is it I’m supposed to be smoking.? We have the di canio incident which caused a furore and a nothing incident involving fletcher which you feel was exactly the same. Do you ever stop to think how absurd your views are?
Obviously I’m not going to spend the rest of the night explaining to the local nutcase that I am the sane person around here.
Rafael lashed out angrily because things didn’t go his way. The FA are doing the same.
Everyone desperately wanted Spurs to beat United, now they are so disappointed that
they lash out angrily at Rafael.
So what. We take it on the chin as always. Press on regardless.
And the bright side? Rafael is that much closer to the finished article.
Of Course Brett…one was a huge furore the other nothing was mentioned….anything to do with the fact it was a Utd player involved…and Utd’s favourite Ref Howard Webb…..Fact is both players physically pushed a ref…..one got an 11 game ban and fined 10,000 lids…..guess who that was…..???? Nutcase…..well for someone who thinks there is a difference in the way you can push someone….someone get the whitecoats…..
Is it something to do with the referee having to include the incident in his match report?
Rafael is from Brazil not England tahts why the lads from England can do and say what they like
Collie
Keep digging!
oh he’s our favourite ref blah blah blah like the others don’t get decisions that go their way. fucking bastards they all are. if you think we’re cheating then we should have won EVERY SINGLE TITLE since 1992. at least when madrid was corrupt in the fifties they won five straight european titles and it was clear for all to see. where is your evidence? still haven’t provided it. but hey who am i kidding. you stupid idiots will never provide any proof CUZ THERE IS NONE!!! deluded bunch.
And who do you support?
danny
it’s all they’ve got I’m afraid. Howard Webb has in fact been one of the worst referees to officiate united games in his time. Incorrect dismissals, inaction when faced with violent tackles against united players and a failure to give clear penalties to us. At first people calling him a united fan was meant to be ironic as he didn’t give us a decision if his life depended on it, but as soon as a few came our way rival fans started their ill informed conspiracy theory.
I am just glad that I don’t need a conspiracy theory to be a united supporter. It would be a pathetic existence having to go round claiming that refs support my rival team.
I think we will all have to accept that rafael will be made an example of to bolster the FA’s Respect campaign towards refs. After all he is wearing our shirt therefore the book has to be thrown at him.
Noticed that Babel only got a £10,000 fine for his twitter slanger of Webb basically calling him corrupt and biased, Neville got a £5,000 for kissing his badge. If Fergie had of said the same thing about Dein what woyuld the papers have said. Was it dein that was reffing the Chelsea game at OT last year?
Howard webb united’s favorite ref are you fucking crazy! How many times did he send off Ronaldo? the non foul and the handball at City come to mind. Remeber that corner were giggs touched it to rooney and walked away and we scored from – perfectly legal and webb disallowed it. No chance is that fucker webb a United friend!
If Rafael gets a additional suspension will anyone else get it for the same offence – I don’t think so
Diabolical sending off. The F.A must be forced to do something about ref standards. They could maybe have a campaign to improve the referees’ attitude towards players of all nationalities.
Call it ‘Respect’ and put logos on the shirts.
I think that would improve standards.
What does it matter who I support, if you can’t even admit that two incidents that are similar one involving a Utd player should get treated differently…..you’re all great when things go against you….which is very f*ckin rarely….and even they are justified it’s the same old bullsh1t….hey look other clubs did the same and got away it…..tell me one thing…..when has a peno ever been given against Utd that shouldn’t of been given……hhhmmm….can’t think of one……when have Utd had a player sent off that shouldn’t of been(and boll0cks to Rafael…as Graham Poll pointed out today he should of been gone before tripping Ekotto)…..hhmm….Utd never get screwed by refs…..the only decisions given against Utd are Stonewall…and when refs have no other options…..pure and simple….every club in the league bar probably Chelsea also..have to deal with incompetent refs week in week out giving shyte decisions, meanwhile Utd get the advantage of getting some dodgy decisions but no dodgy ones against them.
Colie
So your other posts are full of shit and you appear to presume I am going to read a paragraph of more shit.
About that…Er….hmmm….no.
I smell a bitter.
Put Rafa in a Fabio shirt and see if anyone can do anything about it.
Mike Dean is as big a cunt as Terry and Gerrard — that’s why shit sticks together.
Can’t win the arguement so you go for the old ignore tactic….LOL…..Up for school in the morning Brett…best be off to bed then.
I don’t need school to be able to spell argument dick head.
Yo!!!
Send the pic to the tossers in the FA. Wouldn`t help tough as it seems to me the FA is still applying one set of rules for United, and one for the rest,
Terry should been getting this improper conduct like every game almost, but we all know the “big man” isn`t touched by the FA, sad but true.
Take a look at this from Pete Gill at Football365 “It’s time referee’s or governing bodies taught them a lesson” Has he forgotten about Rio (drug test , elbow caught on TV) Evra (Chelsea Groundsman) Roony, Ronaldo etc etc etc etc etc.
Don’t know why I visit that site?
“United possess a repugnant attitude to officialdom: hounding referees whenever they are penalised, acting like the referee when they have been wronged. It is high time that either referees or the governing body teach them better.”
Blame United for everything
United started the recession
United are cutting like hell
United put up the petrol prices
United put up the VAT
United are causing anarchy by rebelling against university fees – good one that
Anything else?
@Colie
your ridiculous arguEment aside, have you actually taken a look at the video evidence? Did you see howard webb tumble and fall the way Paul Alcock did when Di Canio pushed him?
on another note, you going on and on about this one time that Fletcher pushed Webb… what are you, a Spurs fan?
Arsenal fan here….the difference is Rafael doesn’t play for the England Team…all the others do, bar Wenger, and he’s been charged more than once…generally fairly enough, but again for things fergie gets away with.
The rule with the Fa has always been – England squad, one rule, …everyone else, another….remember shearer’s non -suspension for kicking that guy in the head? Or Gerrard’s stamps, Rooney’s endless f-word tirades, Terry’s maiming of anyone he can…the only real exceptions have been Ferdinand and Ian Wright…the former being a paranoid ‘make an example’ treatment, the latter for basically reacting badly to racial abuse on 3 occasions very publicly thus embarrassing a lot of people. Also, and i hate say it as it sounds a bit chip on shoulder, but with the FA coloured folks like the aforementioned and rafael are still more likely to get done, as is any general ‘johnny foreigner’. The FA are, and continue to be, and utter embarrassment. Still, the still enforce the no penalties for away sides at OT rule, so you shouldn’t complain too much!
um what about Ashley Cole bck to ref.
Rio kicking in an advertising hording after being sent off.
Rooney blatantly diving and then going face to face with the ref when he never gave it.
Collie
Remember Adebayor punching the ball in our net in an end of season title deciding huge match against Arsenal? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Valencia being denied a blatant penalty when hauled down by Terry in a vital title deciding game? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Drogba scoring from 2 full yards offside against us in a vital end of season title deciding match? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Wellbeck being denied a blatant penalty after being chopped down from behind in the last few minutes of extra time in a FA Cup Semi Final at Wembley against Everton? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Carragher hauling down a clean through on goal Michael Owen, a red card offence in every letter of the law, and only being booked? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Rio Ferdinand being banned for 8 months for skipping a drug test? You probably do.
Remember Christian Ngouia (spelling) being fined a few grand with no ban for skipping a drug test? Probably not because you’re like thousands of others, blind to anything that goes against us.
Remember Rupert Murdoch trying to buy us, which would have given us close to unlimited spending power and no debt, and the goverment refusing to let it happen? And then the Glazer’s trying to buy us and saddling us with 750 million pounds worth of debt and the goverment looking the other way and whistling dixie?
Remember the FA admitting they had exactly zero evidence against Evra for his fracas against a Cheslea groundsman, but saying “Aw what the fuck” and banning him for 4 games anyway
Ryan Babel?
You dont have to relate this to other incidents. Let Rafa learns from his own recklessness. If he learn he will become the best RB in the world.
You can read my comment on the previous thread on this.
My father is a liverpool fan, We watched the Spurs match together at home. During the game, he asked me, who is that right back? I told him it’s Rafael, a Brazilian who we took in as a youngster. My father said Rafael has the best potential to be the next big thing. When he got sent off, my father just smiled to me and said “well he is young”
Just look at our veteran players Scholes, Giggs and Gary. Do they have that kind of temperament when they were young? No. So if Rafa wants to become like them, he has to learn to behave.
@dazjoe 2.09: Well said dude.
@ MyCow : Well said dude. Thankfully yr dad failed to make u a liverpool fan.
Fafael Da Silva will learn ,will bet better ,may even play the wing one day ,we have a gem .
The FA have been proven to be biased against us for a long time .One of thier former chairman confirmed it.
I have no problem with the charge I must say. To me he reacted too strong, but it was understandable of course. I did not say the charge was right or wrong, I just think it will be a good experience for a young lad like Rafael. Just look and learn Darren Fletcher few years back at Emirates.
dazjoe and MyCowIsTheBest
Great comments lad.
You know why people dont remember anything that happens against us is because we still go and get our desired result like against tottenhem and even if we dont we fight instead of thinking about the same or trying to gain sympathy from others Like last season.Everyone remembers about neville tackle but no one talks about that birmingham away match when the goal was given eventhough it was a foul because we still got the draw.Do anyone remember fletchers red card which was not even a fopul against arsenal in champs league 2nd leg sf.No one would talk about that because we thrashed guuners in thier own backyard.
I can give 100 or maybe more such instances where united have been done by the refs but still everyone will say we get the favour by the refs.
As far as rafael is concerned yeah it was a harsh decision but he was behaving very immaturely and thats not a united way but like Mycowisbest said he will learn from these mistake and will become a united great.
Now i hope fergie starts fabio next week.Hell we have agreat future in our hands and only a deluded guy will say we are doomed.
UNITED THE BEST
We will always get fucked over with these sort of things and unfortunately Fergie should bite his tongue and accept it. Because if he says anything he will get tucked up as well. My main reason for mentioning double standards relates to the Arsenal v Newcastle match at Highbury back in the 2001/02 when they lost 3-1. Thierry Henry got sent off in that game, prompting an outburst from Wenger. He then specifically requested that Graham Poll should never officiate a game at Highbury again. Low and behold that request was fucking accepted and he finally officiated a game at Highbury 3 and a half years later – Wenger got his own way there. If Fergie asked for the same thing regarding Mike Dean, he would probably be charged with improper conduct. So any Arsehole fans coming on here and getting on your soapboxes, thinking about that the next time you preach us about getting things our own way, you fucking cunts.
If referees want respect, they should fucking earn it first.
Brett1985 – Get back to your Wastlelands P.R Office and and stop scrapping the barrell on a United Blog for a news feed for your Man Shitty blogg….Here’s one for ya, “WELCOME TO EASTLANDS, SIT WHEREVER YOU LIKE”
Well Dazjoe in response to your fair effort I will retort like so….
Adebayor….haven’t a clue which incident you’re talking about so must of been real clear cut.
Valencia…..As I pointed out the only other team with the same influence on refs is Chelsea…so no surprise
Drogba….Yeah he was offside…slightly…but if all you have is one offside decision going against you for the last few seasons…..think of every other team that has that several times in one season….Also correct me if I’m wrong….didn’t Macheda clearly handball in that game for one of your goals…..Lol…Double and Standards
Wellbeck being chopped down….I clearly remember the commentator stating it was 50/50 and could of gone either way…no surprise Utd fans see that as blatant. Especially when you can’t get a peno at OT for love nor money
Carragher..hauling down Michael Owen when clean through….apart from the fact he was running away from goal….and as pointed out by Graham Poll later the ref made the correct decision….similarly Vidic did the same thing in the same match only getting a second yellow also which meant one match ban instead of three….cake and eat it.
Rio skipping a drug test…..8 month ban…..yeah…absolutely deserved…..any other sport he would of been banned for life….
Rupert Murdoch buying Utd…obviously you have no understanding of business, as he would hold vested interest in all media oulets so there would be a conflict of interests you complete and utter retard.
Remeber the Fa having zero evidence on Evra…yeah apart from those clear cut photos that were in the press for all to see. Has Evra since proven himself to be able to deal with authority well….hhhmmm The last world cup would have me think differently…..
Now if you’re going whinge about things that go against you, at least have something half decent, not some crap that just sounds feeble, get a grip, the whole of the Footballing world knows Utd get away with more sh1t than any other team by an absolute mile….the fact you try to pityfully prove otherwise is a joke.
The referees are out to stop united but even they aren’t enough to halt the red machine!
Colie
Get a live and go discuss how much we get advanteges from referees on your local Forums.
We talk sense here not crap like you do.
Colie, soon you’ll be saying that football fans are biased O_O
TK….of course you talk sense….I have proven that have I not……Oh no that’s right…I have proven it to be complete and utter bow and locks…….!!!!! But good to know you can spot the forest through the trees. Lol Typical Manc Fan.
Matt…of course football fans are biased….It’s human nature……but it’s also human nature to say when it’s a fair cop….unless your a cheating scumlord…..Hey it’s not fair that our player gets punished for a fair reason when others haven’t…….stop whinging Rafael is getting what he deserves……plain and simple…..!!! He should of gone against Liverpool for his two footed stamp at Mereiles but surprise surprise Webb somehow missed that one.
Please show us evidence of this foul on mierles colie, or did you make it up again you poor little victim? Getting your excuses in before dogleash bottles it and melts in his pants again?
I’m sure we all remember last season where refs started clamping down on shirt pulling and holding in the box.. Which started by giving a penalty against Vidic and as far as I remember never happened to any other player all season. Hmmmm
Which peno was that Ruudisgod ????
Dear Colie
I don’t give a shit about your biased complaints.In fact i couldn’t care the less if the refree himself scores for us week in week out ,because even if the Match’s refree is Steven Gerrard or John Terry,or Fabregas, you biased and bitter fans will come in here and say ,” those “referees are Man United secret Agents and they are helping Man United to achieve more and more success”.
And yes Colie ,I’m a proud Manc.
Colie you are a Liverpool fan for sure.
Rafael got the ball and didn’t touch Mereiles” AKA the new Roy Keane”, whereas Stevie V caught Michael Carrick’s legs and was in for revenge ,So please stop tallking crap and watch the game .
Take a chill pill there TK, at least you’re open to a nice trivial conversation….Lol. now go back and learn the new rules of tackling…..going in two footed is a foul….getting the ball or not….plain and simple….so can stop hiding behind the fact he got the ball(just)..anothe half a second later…he would of easily broken Mereiles ankle….plain and simple….which goes down as failing to control himself in the tackle…..now if you can’t even admit that….then where does the bias lie…..at your front door pal.
JKS do the same as TK….go to school on the rules of tackling…..pair of uneducated idiots.
Colie IS a dipper. I remember the cunt on here when they finished second the other season giving it large. Fuck off.
Wrong King Eric….but again good point of view….I didn’t realise I had barged into a gathering of Neo-Nazi’s where dictatorship rules and those that don’t conform aren’t welcome….Lol….anyway I will leave you to yourselves where you can bitch and moan about being hard done by when in fact it’s quite obviously the complete opposite as proven….the best answer I got in response was a peno given against you for a Vidic shirt pull in the box….which then couldn’t be confirmed as to what game it was…..If we ignore him….he might go away and we can wallow in the fact that we know he speaks the truth.
fuck the fa!! we’ll just take the fuckin trophy back. cunts
Colie – You do speak the truth mate, the truth of saying nothing of interest to anyone. Jog on soppy bollox.
One word Colie BITTER…..
Lol….Sticks and Stones…may break thy bones….but FACTS is what really hurts you….!!!! Zig Heil boys…!!!
If you want to know more about facts Colie,you should go and ask Rafael Benitez,who’s by far the best person who can talk about facts mate.He fucked up Inter in less than six Months and still got a good sum of money like he did with you.Anway you could wait till summer ,because he will replace KIng Kenny, and we will start laughing again …LONG LIVE THE REAL KING
ERIC CANTONA.
Sorry TK you obviously don’t do facts now do you……or maybe you might come out with some….!!!!!
eColi eColi eColieColieCloi eColi !!!
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And it makes you wonder why Utd Fans have such a bad name…Lol….You’re mother must be so proud……!!!!
eColi, sticks like shit.
spurious |ˈspyoŏrēəs|
adjective
not being what it purports to be; false or fake : separating authentic and spurious claims.
• (of a line of reasoning) apparently but not actually valid : this spurious reasoning results in nonsense.
• archaic (of offspring) illegitimate.
Fuck John Terry
Collie:
United are a media outlet now, funny, I thought we were a football team.
Graham Poll even said so!!! The worse ref in the history of refereeing say’s something and you use that as proof, fuck me sideways!
Photo’s of Evra. Photo’s showing him holding his hands up. That’s proof of throwing punches in your world is it? Remind me to never do the “YMCA” dance again, it’ll start a fucking riot!
Notice you never responded to my question of why when a United player skips a drugs test he gets an 8 month ban, but when a City player does it he doesn’t received any ban, strange you skipped that one.
Hey, I’ll answer it for you. Ngouie didn’t speak English so didn’t understand, because you know no one at City has the intelligence to make him aware of the importance, and that now any foreign player can miss drugs test and simply say “No Englieeeesh” when asked about it later
Dazjoe…thank you for providing proof that Utd fans are as thick as sh1t…..
Rupert Murdoch is the owner of the majority of media outlets….ie SKY….which therefore gives him a vested interest..if he bought Utd….and would have conflicts of Interest……you thick twat.
Graham Poll wasn’t refereeing…he was basing his opinion on the actual rules of the game…..so how bad he is on the pitch has nothing to do with it…..
Evra….has since proven himself to have a problem with authority so I can only imagine he is guilty based on that…..he can never keep his trap shut either….so I can well believe he did it….And neither you or I know the full ins and outs so can’t comment based on a lack of knowledge.
Drug tests….just like the article above…why is it that Utd fans look for someone who has gotten away with actions similar to their own players…and cry foul……rather than actually grow some balls….hold your hands up and say he got what he deserved….plain and simple…..!!!! But I won’t be expecting that any time soon.
Ps I see Rafael isn’t challenging the charge…..!!!!
What’s that stench? Lonely little wanker is back.
Colie’s spurious reasoning doesn’t hold water.
spurious |ˈspyoŏrēəs|
adjective
not being what it purports to be; false or fake : separating authentic and spurious claims.
• (of a line of reasoning) apparently but not actually valid : this spurious reasoning results in nonsense.
• archaic (of offspring) illegitimate.
Collie
So based on what someone does in other incidents you will decide if they are guilty or not in an incident where there is zero evidence? Hate to see you in a jury.
Rio got what he deserved. yes he did. You skip drug tests, you get banned, perfectly simple. Unless you don’t play for United of course.
Major TV companies hold majority shares in major clubs in Italy and France, why is England different?
If it was another club the goverment would not have blocked it, simple.
So I take it you will now be referring to whatever Graham Poll’s opinion is on any football matter he comments on, as he is the number 1 source of footballing knowledge?
Again Dazjoe….In the Evra case you don’t have all the info of the case now do you….so don’t spout on about something you are half informed about…..And his history since leads me to believe he obviously has a short fuse..and doesn’t handle authority well …now does he…..and as for the jury…you base your opinion on previous history so was French World Cup scene a surprise….not at all really.
And again not knowing he full ins and outs of the City players failure to take a drug test I am sure you are well versed to make a full knowledgable based opinion known to us all.
And the fact I have to go through why Rupert murdoch owning Man Utd would be a conflict of interest just sums this all up.
And Graham Poll is not the number one source of footballing knowledge….but when an ex – referree points out the ACTUAL rules of the game and the reasoning behind decisions it expected the general public(not fully versed in the full ins and outs of certain rulings) would accept his opinion….especially when actually quotes the rule, word for word.
Silvio Berlusconi owns media companies and is the prime minister of Italy, yet also owns Milan, please explain how this isn’t a conflict of interest?
Canal Plus owned Paris St Germain for over a decade, please explain how this isn’t a conflict of interst?
And I really couldn’t care less if they “Aren’t in England” I asked earlier why is England different and you didn’t answer, and as I am such a fucked up retard I still can’t grasp why it is ok for media companies and prime ministers to own major football clubs in other European countries but not in England, pleas explain to me so that I can learn from you.
Oh, and in the Evra case, check the law, what a person has done in the past has no baring on a current case, you go from the evidence in the case in hand, and the FA openly admitted it was one persons word against another, even the CCTV footage never showed Evra throw a punch, the FA simply decided he did, despite himself and members of the United coaching staff saying he didn’t.
If someone accused someone of a violent murder, and they denied it, and there was absolutely no evidence other than the fact they had a violent past, there is no court in the land that would find him guilty, you need evidence. Past incidents are no more relevant than saying “Come on, just look at him!”
you’re trying to use Silvio Burlesconi as a case in point……!!! Lol….
http://footballshirt.cruelstock.com/football-todaya-show-or-a-game/
Have a read of that….!!! Might help the education.
Doesn’t answer the question in anyway.
I get that Murdoch owning United would have been a vested interest and was refused on ligitimate grounds, so why don’t other govermements block their media companies from owning their major clubs?
That’s a retorical question by the way, as you can’t answer why this is the case, only why United were refused.
And yes I am using Silvio Burlesconi as an example, so what? He’s a very dodgy human being, I know that, but so is Roman Abramovich (unless you think he is the one and only Russian oil tycoon who doesn’t have links with the Russian mafia)
Anyway, never mind, my original point was that you wouldn’t remember half the dodgy decisions that go against us. I’m not so blind or sad as to think that we are the only club that has the occasional bad decision, either against us or in our favour, my point was that we get our share of both, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of fans of other clubs who have convinced themselves that we never, ever get a bad decision go against us, which is just really sad
Sorry Dazjoe….as you stated…how they can allow it in other countries I don’t know…but again corruption can easily be hidden in such instances…..I never said decisions don’t go against you…but bad decisions…..but to claim you get your fair share of bad decisions is a massive overstatement….as I also stated it’s between yourselves and Chelsea as to who gets most….but both of you get by far and away the most major decisions given for you and also NOT against you……The Chelsea points you made originally all are as I say part and parcel of the what every team would go through, but when you play other teams well thats when it really kicks in…..I did originally ask you which instance you were referring to in the Adebayor case which I never got an answer too…..a great example of Utds influence would be last season against Arsenal at OT…Arshavin cleaved by Fletcher in the box..no peno….later in the game Rooney dives in the box(second time against Arsenal) and peno given…..that’s just one example….there are some of the most embarrassing decisions ever given all happening at OT….ie Webb peno decision vs Spurs….Mendes goal…..Numerous Stonewall penos turned down….Ronaldo’s penalty from a clean tackle from Jay llyod samuel of West Brom…..and thats just the tip of the iceberg…..How do you not get embarrassed year on year…..!!! Even Stevie Wonder can see it for gods sake…Lol.
Co don’t lie.
Co lie.
The Adebayor one was the 2-1 in 2008, the goal put Arsenal one nil up, we came back to win 2-1 with a Ronaldo pen(a clear Gallas handball before you start!) that he had to retake and a Hargreaves free kick. We finished 5 points clear of Arsenal, so if it had finished 1 nil, they win the league by 1 point, thanks to a handball
Then there was the League Cup final against Spurs when King chopped Ronaldo down in the box, then had the bare faced cheek to stand applauding as Ronaldo was booked, it was a blatant pen.
The Mendes “Goal”, really nothing to be said about that, just shockingly bad refereeing.
The game that ended Arsenal’s run, yes Rooney dived but just 5 mins later Cole hacked Ronaldo down in the box after a great drag back from him, no penalty. So we should have had a pen in that game, and we did get one, yes Rooney dived but it evened itself out.
As I said we get dodgy decisions, certainly, but 2 wrongs don’t make a right and it doesn’t make any less infuriating when they go against us, and they also seem to in the biggest games.
Arsenal game was a title deciding match that nearly cost us, last season against Chelsea, another title deciding match, ok Macheda’s goal could have been disallowed, even with several replays it was difficult to tell if he had handled it or not, but Drogba was blatantly offside and the lineo was stood staring directly at him and didn’t flag, the Ronaldo one above was a cup final, the Wellbeck one mentioned earlier was a semi final.
My point basically, is that no one ever mentions the clear pen we were refused against Spurs in the league cup final as it didn’t cost us and we won it anyway, but I still hear people complaining about Vidic not being sent off 12 months later in the final against Villa, the Ronaldo incident is completley forgotton about by everyone accept us, the Vidic one remembered by all
sorry after danger mike dean we can.t for get what you have done last year between man united and chelsea and droba was off side and you allowed the gaol this were fail to win the league and now agains tottenham you sending man u right back rafeal da silva for nothing what do mean really