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PICTURE: Was Hernandez Onside?

We were all very pleased to see Javier Hernandez score such a cracking goal on his début but there was a hit of offside. Well, more than a hint really. With the ESPN footage failing to show decent replays, it was assumed that Chicharito must have at least been half a yard off side, given how far behind the back line he was when the ball reached him.

It has been well reported that he was the fastest player at the World Cup, but could he really be that fast? So fast that he looked yards offside but in fact had been onside when the ball was played?

Apparently so…




 

86 Comments

  1. Chrispiano says:

    I love his pace.

  2. so it goes says:

    Looked offside to me to be honest.

  3. so it goes says:

    … but I guess I am wrong if that image is from the moment of the pass.

  4. optimus says:

    Added the invisible line…

    http://i32.tinypic.com/2i9seia.jpg

    Yes, he was.

  5. Ulster Red says:

    a million miles on fs open yur eyes!!

  6. aig alex is god says:

    What i love is his timing of those runs.he is exactly level just as we saw against france.when he collects the through ball he is about 15 to 20 yards clear of the last defender.fast as fuck this lad

  7. willierednut says:

    Mr Magoo was the linesman.

  8. McQueen says:

    With his pace + great timing he’s going to have a lot of incorrect offside decisions given against him. And that is guna frustrate the fuck out of all of us!

  9. ricky trott stretford says:

    just on side, just.
    Not too sure if he will be strong enough in the prem though, looks weak.

  10. Kings says:

    No more offside than Henry’s second goal against us at Highbury in the 2-2 draw in the 2002/03 season! This boy’s got good pace and movement.

  11. Peter says:

    I think of all years this would be the best year to bring video technology into our game. I can just see linesmen across the country giving Hernandez offside when he isnt, just because of his pace.

  12. obertanthenewstar says:

    thats abit too much to use technology for every offisde… that would be crazy.. but we sure do need video technology in the game for other stuff

  13. Steve_G says:

    it was great timing, the only thing is when you have someone thats that good at timing his own run, you just have to hope the passer can get the ball off his foot in time, as well as make it to the runner

    overall this was an amazing bit of skill on his part, and he had a nice goal against us yesterday in the 1st half too

  14. FlechTHEMAN says:

    He was on side. The MLS right back played him on by at least a meter,
    The reason it isn;t obvious is that the crap ESPN footage never dissected
    the replays from the long view cammera. Our new man was
    25 meters away, from the right back so it is imposible to see him in all the
    replay views, only obvious in the original feed.. It wasn’t close at all.

    Agree with those who credit Chicharito for a very very good jump. He is not going
    to get that much room often! Especially in Europe. Time will tell, but
    he looks the part.

    Slightly off comment, but the Goal in the MLS All Star game and the other on against us last night
    against United at Chivas stadium but showed really quality open field shooting. Last nights
    strike was from 20 meters and PIG could never have gotten it at his far post. Real quality shot IMO.

  15. YorYor says:

    While watching the stream’s replays, I thought he was offside too. This pic just proved so much. And yes, I could see what McQueen described happening at least 10000 times whenever he plays.
    No worries though, he’ll soon learn that with his pace and the 486DX eyesight processing power of linesmen in the EPL, he could delay his run by a second and still reach the ball first.

  16. RojoDiablo says:

    I’m not the one to do it but Chicarito needs a song badly, to the tune of La Cucaracha. I can hear it now:

    La Chiarito, La Chicarito
    du na na na na nan na (with awesome mexican horns in the backround!!!)

    La chicarito, La Chicarito
    ……………………………………..

    Anyways, just a half crocked idea for a song. We will need one very soon if he keeps this strike rate up!!!

  17. chrismarkham1982 says:

    he was onside….check the replay and pause as fletcher hits the pass and you can see that he was level…very well timed run

  18. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    @RojoDiablo

    Here ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtVDI–5p0M

    4 months and 129,474 views later and as sent to me by scott on face book it was on the mexican news

    this has to catch on

    on topic: Im onna start a betting thing 5 quid a peice and the winner gets the whole bag of money, between 1 and 30 how many goals will united have wrongly ruled offside due to the quility of premiership linos???? only 30 places to fill so hurry with you fiver

  19. United4eva says:

    @Rojo Diablo and GHTT

    An alternative take: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJyU6Cwj5bk&feature=player_embedded

    El Chicharito, El Chicharito, El Chicharito, rito, rito…

  20. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    oh and then someone remixed Emilys chicharito song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVCWfH2iGYM&

  21. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Well i dunno about you lot but im going to give wellbeck a huge pat on the back as the goal was alot to do with him. Its him thats on the wing and pulled the fullback up the field making him fail the offside trap. No fullback in their right mind would give Wellbeck acres of room and by pushing a little up the field took the fullback with him. Well done son.

  22. Portugueseprincess says:

    Hi Guys,
    Just to let you know that Anderson was involved in a car crash this morning in Portugal. The car he was in was completely destroyed. He went to hospital but only was minor injuries thank god. The media are saying that he was coming from a nightclub with friends and the driver had been drinking.

  23. Portugueseprincess says:

    Just to update:
    Anderson was actually the driver.

  24. Long John O'Shea says:

    Dont know if it was talked about on here already, but did any of you’s see that the bookies have but Stephen Ireland at even money to join United??

  25. willierednut says:

    Portugueseprincess – Thanks for that, don’t think SAF will be happy at all with that news.

  26. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    @PortugesePrincess

    Is that you Ronaldo, are you jealous because hes out having the time and playing for the best club on the planet whilst your stuck at home changing fucking nappies (plural yours included) and waiting for the phone to ring from the imaginary mother of your baby.

    If this is true then Ando your a prize cunt and thank you for your service and goodbye.

    Link to story please, even in portugese as i learnt it from a Matteus Rose label. Actually its a very easy language to learn if you know how. If you buy ten Matteus Rose bottles and line them up alphabetically the entire learn Portugal language course from Hugo is there, just consume said liquids and your fluent. Works for me, I drank ten bottles and started a fight with a spaniard about who was the better footballer (Ronaldo or Xavi) and felt just like a native. I was however then kicked in by a Gerodie who was on a booze cruise. So nothing new there then, the brits kicking the fuck out of the Iberians.

  27. NSC says:

    gr8 future with wazza, speedy hernandez did it again for chivas just shows he can score agiainst world class sides like united

  28. Portugueseprincess says:

    @GoatinaUnitedShirt
    hahahahahhahahahahahah
    here’s one link….I hope you have drunk a bottle of Mateus.

    http://jn.sapo.pt/PaginaInicial/Desporto/Interior.aspx?content_id=1631420

  29. Costas says:

    @Portugueseprincess

    Thanks for the information. Fergie truly is not going to like the news. Not the crash itself, but the sobriety of the driver.

  30. Portugueseprincess says:

    You can also use Google translate if all fails. If you want more details to the story you will need to watch portuguese Tv on Justin Tv…either Sic, TVI or RTP. Good luck. CR7 I mean CR9 :)

  31. willierednut says:

    GoatinaUnitedShirt – Be nice, that royality you’re talking to lol.

  32. justme says:

    I can’t believe there is still any debate….the comments on here are ridiculous. The article wasn’t asking for your view, it was rhetorical….they support it with an image the CLEARLY shows he was easily onside when the ball was played. That was the point of the article. And for some to say he looks weak….you cannot say that. Anyway, he scored a cracker against Argentina…one of the most physical teams in World football….if you’ve got good pace, good feet and good movement you don’t need to be a meat head. If you don’t have pace or movement then you’d probably be a first name on the England team sheet

  33. Costas says:

    Thanks again pp(i have to make your name short somehow :P ). Of course I must say that given the condition of his car, thank fuck he only had minor injuries. Other than that, I really really hope this is a wake up call for him.

  34. willierednut says:

    Send Ando to Ipswich on loan, let Keano get him in shape.

  35. Fze123 says:

    @Portugueseprincess, thanks for the news, I was wondering what the lad has been up to.

    What was he doing in Portugal anyway, isn’t he supposed to be back at Carrington training with the players who missed pre-season? I know he’s injured but so is Rio, and he has been training at Carrington for a few weeks now. Hope he gets a bollocking from Fergie when he gets back, he could have easily got seriously injured, silly lad.

  36. FlechTHEMAN says:

    Here is a rough translation from Bable

    The Anderson Brazilian, futebolista of the Manchester United that represented F.C at the time. Port 2005/06 and 2006/07, suffered, in the dawn of today, Saturday, a violent accident of automobile in the zone of Vieira of the Minho. Anderson still was carried the hospital, but it suffered only fast wounds. This dawn, the futebolista lead its automobile in a secondary road in the zone of Vieira of the Minho when it had a aparatoso accident. Anderson suffered only fast wounds, but the car where it followed the player was destroyed. The former-f medium. C. Port, of 22 years of age, meets to recoup it of an injury in the ligaments of a knee, after having been, in March, operated in Portugal.

  37. portugueseprincess says:

    Aparatoso=spectacular

  38. bigphil2003 says:

    His goal against France was similarly offside looking. These kind of runs cant be a fluke…just hope the linos can keep up with him while he becomes a United legend!

  39. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Poor Ando, In my view lets give him the benefit of the doubt and support our player.
    He could have been sober and there could have been other circumstances.
    Until we have more info lets just wish him well and TF that he wasn’t badly hurt.
    . As for me, I will continue to support him as long as he is a United player. But it does look like he has
    a serious case of youthITIS. As has been said before, youth is wasted on the young.

    Anderson son son,
    look at the trophies youve won won won,
    Floating a ball from center mid, mid, mid
    Passing Fat Frank as if he were dead, dead, dead

  40. RedScot says:

    FFs he only can run at 19 miles and hour.Fucking Snails pace am sure I run at least 30 miles and hour over 300 yards when Pc Plod is chasing me.
    Nah its not offside just camera angles and optical illusion.
    If Drogba wisnae offside neither is that.

  41. aig alex is god says:

    Liverpool have re signed Aurelio. lol

  42. Jeanne262 says:

    he was onside

  43. aig alex is god says:

    Liverpool have resigned Aurelio. loool

  44. bbabyj says:

    The linesmen in the EPL will screw him over repeatedly.. no doubt. :P

  45. willierednut says:

    bbabyj – Leave that to his girlfriend lol

  46. Costas says:

    They re-signed Aurelio? Dear God. It tool them about a month to realise that they lost both of their left backs.

  47. willierednut says:

    Luke Young turned them down, so they re – signed Aurelio lol.

  48. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    liverpool – not only are they lost in the 80s but the are now takin steps backwards- how did kenny not get that managers job

  49. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Luke Young turned them down, oh my fucking god how the mighty have fallen, lol.

  50. Costas says:

    Didn’t they bring back Steve Staunton a few years ago? I am surprised they didn’t ask him to return one more time, lol.

  51. Costas says:

    The other funny thing is that Aurelio was free to find a club for 2 months and found nothing. How desperate are Liverpool anyway?

  52. willierednut says:

    Who’s next, Heskey, Rush ha ha

  53. United4eva says:

    @GHTT

    That Chicharito’s dynamite remix is hysterical.

    @Anderson
    He can count his blessings…

    @Liverpool
    We owe Aurelio one so I’m glad he’s gone back there

  54. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    News just in Gary Abletts chippy isnt doing too well at the mo with the health drive going on, dont ask me its a jamie oliver thing. Essex rent boy and all that. Barry Venisons hair salon is booming in Ibiza but Ive heard hes preparing a come back.

  55. united.george says:

    I think Hyppia will be next to Liverpool:)

  56. willierednut says:

    Calm down calm down, Liverpoo’s in great shape lol.

  57. united.george says:

    Twente beat Ajax 1-0 for the Dutch super cup and guess who was red carded? Luis Suarez…..some people are picking up where they left off in the WC:)

  58. Costas says:

    If Pepe Reina leaves them next season, they will probably try to buy David James from Bristol, lol.

  59. Slim says:

    @ Costas says:
    The other funny thing is that Aurelio was free to find a club for 2 months and found nothing. How desperate are Liverpool anyway?

    Pretty desperate my friend, pretty desperate. Seriously though Roy could do a number on those guys and get them playing. Calamity james back at anfield would be a treat. HA

  60. Dr.hannibal says:

    we should give credit to lines man he is spot on !!! chicha is on side!!

  61. willierednut says:

    Or Ray Clemence lol

  62. united.george says:

    @costas – I think they may try and get Jerzy Dudek from the virus first. Of course they will trade him for Reina:)

    Has RieraMania died down in Greece?

  63. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    @willierednut

    You could be onto something there mate. Ray Clemence joined Liverpool a month before his 19th birthday meaning he spent his 19th, 20th and 21st year at Liverpool qualifying him for home grown status in the premier leagues new rules. lol

  64. Costas says:

    @united.george

    Oh yes of course. Dudek. I’d love it if they got him back. Things are calm on the Riera front for now. All the fuss was about giving him a big welcome when he arrived in Greece. Even Liverpool fans were taking the piss, lol.

  65. Costas says:

    John Aldridge to replace Torres. :P

  66. Costas says:

    @Slim

    I also have a feeeling that Hodgson will opt for a different approach than the FSW and try to get his players to show hunger and determination. Don’t know how far that will take them though.

  67. willierednut says:

    Fuck it, bring back Rafa.

  68. willierednut says:

    It’s a pity Roy Hodgson is their manager, i like the guy, but i hate Liverpoo with a passion.

  69. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    yeah bring back wafa

    Woy Hodgson as Manager
    Wafa as twainer
    Gewward as captain.
    Weiwa in goal
    With Cawwager and Awelio in an unbweechable defence.

  70. tr says:

    My first reaction was when I was watching the highlights, it is offside.

    You have just made my thought stronger about that…

    That fecking video referee or some kind of technical change has to be made. We all know there are major issues about the referees (even felt on our skins as well) but the World Cup clearly showed us that change is inevitable.

    Anyway, the guy shows great talent, can’t wait to see his partnership with Rooney or Berba.

    Roll on next season!

  71. RojoDiablo says:

    I should have known little Em would have something put together already…you’ve a little superstar there (but you already knew that). Nice work kiddo…

  72. Gudjohnsen says:

    Joe Cole talks about how Liverpool are the biggest club in England, but then Luke Young turns them down. Something doesn’t add up, LOL !!

  73. Ted Perechalli says:

    He was just on side.

  74. united.george says:

    man city losing 2-0 to Inter Milan….still the same Rafa, with his strange hand signals on the sidelines…

  75. united.george says:

    Viera was sent off for an elbow on Materazzi:) The French must be allergic to him or something….

    BTW is it 3-0 Inter now..

  76. sean says:

    even at 1st glance i can tell that he is defo not

  77. Marq says:

    For people still thinking he was offside, please look carefully at the right back’s position in the 2nd picture. The ball is just about to leave the passer’s foot. He was clearly onside.

  78. dutch says:

    THE GUY NEXT TO WELBECK IS KEEPING HIM ON!!!

  79. Dr. Mico says:

    He was onside. Look at the right back’s position. Check the link to the invisible line above also. And the linesman was very well placed. But like others have said previously i also have the feeling we’re gonna get a lot of incorrect offside decisions against us because of Javier’s speed.

  80. Mclovin7 says:

    His pace is going to ruin the lives of the best defenders in the world. The only worry about this is that they can end up with hamstring problems let’s hope that chicharito doesn’t get any problems.

  81. Firestarter says:

    He does not need to run that fast in England.

    Remember Drogba’s goal at old trafford

  82. Rohan says:

    ahahah he is onside Losers ~

  83. King Eric says:

    Did I read someone say he looks “weak”? Is he fuck, he looks a tough little case. This kid is gonna be the bollocks.

  84. King Eric says:

    Have Citeh even won a game yet? Those cunts are gonna fail miserably. This morning Tevez has been saying he has lost all appetite for the coming season. Won’t be in top 5 thats for sure. Fucking clowns. Have the dippers REALLY got Aurelio back? You couldn’t make it up.

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