“Because I kicked a bottle when the goal was cancelled from an offside position,” said Wenger. “I didn’t know we were not allowed not to do that. You know what you get at Old Trafford when you come – every time – but I do not want to go into the performance of the referee. Any questions you should ask him. I believe you should look at the game and who played with real spirit on the pitch today. I felt we played with the right spirit. It’s difficult to judge every time someone goes down. Today I’ve seen a player make 20 fouls and there was no yellow card. Nobody sees it.”
This time the referee did not allow a goal scored with a hand, as he did the season before last when Adebayor scored. The referee also did not allow a defender to make a goal line save with both hands, as Toure did a couple of seasons before Ade’s handball goal. Wenger thought he knew what happens at Old Trafford but his players didn’t get away with cheating today, for a change.
No comment on the Eboue dive then? Same old Arsenal, always cheating. And no comment on the penalty, which Almunia did not contest.
To claim you know what you’re going to get at Old Trafford, a ground where they have been awarded a penalty in recent years (not our fault Gilberto missed it!) and got away with the incidents like Adebayor and Toure’s, is ridiculously petty and immature. I can only assume this embarrassing statement comes from the fact his side lost to a United team having what will probably be remembered as our worst performance of the season!
This is how it feels to be City.
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Comical that you accuse Arsenal of always cheating. OOooh….I cant wait for Ronaldo’s Inevitable Return to Old Toilet and Dive you out of the CL.
Ahhh…The Inevitable. Watch this space.
man u didn’t win, it was Mike ‘red devil’ dean who won it for you..you should be a man down when valencia elbowed vermaleen however he was not even carded..fletcher commited foul after foul and not even booked. whilst Song first foul saw him being booked.Rooney’s penalty was just the same as Eduardo, if Dudu was dubbed a cheat so should wayne ‘shrek’ rooney. rooney was clearly looking for the penalty,he pushed the ball wide to the corner flag and there was no way he’s gonna get that and score.. Bottom line is rooney has the intent to con the referee..Why don’t u mention all of this?? Need i say about fletcher’s foul on Arshavin??
it’s always the same man u, influencing the referee or are they on ur payroll?? We outpassed, outclassed and dominated u but were undone by ur 12th man, Mike Dean.
Oh by the way Eboue is our least Fav. Player by a mile. It has everything to do with the fact that he dives. He’s a decent right back.
But Ronaldo and Rooney now……
pass the pint of bitter, you’ve been holding on to it too long david.
looking at our squad once again, i’m sure we WILL not win the champions league this season; i intend to back my words with money thats how confident i am.
immediately afer the game, i tuned in to real madrid vs deportivo.
i realised you’ll only treasure something once it’s gone. watched: ronaldo tuck away a penalty despite the keeper diving the right way, do a couple of stepovers and beating 2 man at once, leaping into the air going for the ball in the box with so much hunger, striking a venomous shot with his left feet, whipping in crosses after crosses, beating defenders again and again.
totally a player of different class.
who is that man in our team that can fill that void? agreeably we do not need to do so, for soccer is not a one man’s game, however, today’s performance is an utter dissapointment.
which offensive player, other than rooney, can enter chelsea/inter/barca squad?
just a trivial observation
rooney when running down on the left flank 95% of the time will cut back to his right foot.
valencia 80% of the time can only beat the man down the right by pushing the ball wide right, and try to use pace to do so. when he cuts in, he almost surely is ineffective because all he seeks is a pass.
nani very often gets eased off the ball, is able to dribble at speed in only one direction, unable to switch direction at pace makes him less than effective. he likes to toe poke dribble the ball very closely to the defender and when its so dam close, he usually uses his outer foot to cut it out, dumb skill that is used to gain fouls than beat the man; and thank god we didn’t see it today.
fletcher is totally roid!! he was everywhere today.
park ji sung’s dribble employs mainly/only body feints
berbatov doesn’t need to ‘lift a finger’ to play football
inzhagi only needs the benefit of the doubt 1 out of 10 times, from an offside position, to score a goal; giggs needs to make 1 out of 100 random passes, to create a immaculate goal opportunity.
carrick did no shit today.. oh wait, carrick did all sorts of shit today.
brown is as clumsy as always, slipping arnound, getting turned inside out, and running from one end of the field to bowl into an opponent
is evra the new ronaldo? ever-bursting down the flank, and starting to take shots, even took a penalty!!!
lastly
VIVA RONALDO VIVA MAN UTD…..
@izham:
of course rooney’s looking for the penalty, but he actually reacted to contact that brought him down. the fact that the ball went the opposite direction is irrelevant.
eduardo fell to the ground of his own accord. he looked for a penalty, and when there was none to be found, he fabricated one.
the difference? warranted victory vs. two-game suspension!
Good one -yes. Arsenal self destructed.
That is not surprising given recent results between us and the massive advantage you have at OT knowing that you will get every 50/50 penalty decision and the opposition will get none -just as in this game.
Always cheating really- You lot have a real nerve -no other team in the EPL gets as much help from referees as you lot do.
toby
I cant be shuffed to be honest. But United fans booing Eduardo for Diving? hahahahahaha….Diving? United fans?
You cant make this shyte up.
@supey
yeah our squad doesnt look like real or barca but still it looks good enough to make us champion. when nistelrooy left our squad was even bad then. no proper striker. yeah there was a ronaldo but he was just like nani now.
no one expected that ronaldo to do wonders.
and dont say real are everything let them face a good opponents and then say about them . it is just a start for them
u say chelseas squad is good i also say. but it was the same squad last seaon . chealse for me have played the easier games so far compared to other top 4 so dont rate chelski too much.
but yeah 2day united were shit. but win is a win.
gooner arrogance knows no bounds. several years without a trophy, never stringing together back-to-back premierships but they put together a few decent results against gross incompetence and they think they have a right to win every match!! When things don’t go their way they start throwing their toys in a pathetic petulant rage and the victors are nothing but cheats. Isn’t it funny how none of them have focused on the fact that the winner was scored by their own player who was under no pressure!! Thank you. LOL. David, izham, spoonergerry – pathetic bunch of muppets – you’d think you’d be used to losing by now. Cheers
it wasnt eboue who handled on the line it was toure…….with both fists like a goalie……….it is stilll fresh in my minds eye
Toure is no longer an Arsenal player.
Rooney on the other hand……
Stevo,..Ofcoarse…What were we thinking…Its United’s “Right to win every match”….ROFL.
Delusional Tit.
arsenal are always like cry babies. dont blame ref or rooney. blame diaby.
see the difference btwn champs and loosers is this only. we look to improve things unlike u stupid guuners who just blame other people for ur loss.
You lot keep bringing up the Adebayor goal, but remember your penalty that game was controversial as it was ball to arm and not arm to ball.
Also, the 100% controversial moment when Evra took a swan dive and Hargreaves scored the free kick.
Did you conveniently forget about that?
SAF says Fletcher didn’t foul Arshavin today. Delusional much?
Very lucky win. Arsenal’s 2nd string midfield dominated United 1st choice midfield. Now thats sad
You Arsenal fans are really something……… you’re all a bunch ofwhingers just like your manager.
Please, please , please don’t moan a bout Rooney after that chesting show by Eduardo in the week. I admit that Rooney played for the penalty, but there really isn’t a comparison – Eduardo didn’t get touched, but Almunia played right into Rooneys hands and completely clattered him. The penalty yesterday was clearly justified, and you should be moaning about your goalkeepers idiocy rather than Rooney.
I will admit that you deserved something from the game however. The Fletcher penalty incident could have gone either way – personally I thought he was a little lucky, but did get a bit of a touch on the ball before he actually made contact – lucky though. And as for Diaby, well not sure exactly what he was thinking about.
Anyway deal with it – you win some and lose some – and don’t always get the points you deserve – us Spurs fans are used to that
United talking about diving is laughable when CR and Rooney have constantly done it over the years. Really, mature a bit and stop being a bias cunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alCKThGVCu4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Earsenalreview%2Eco%2Euk%2F2009%2F08%2Fhd%2Dvideo%2Drooney%2Ddives%2Dbefore%2Dcontact%2Dis%2Dmade%2Dracist%2Dbritish%2Dmedia%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=35
Look at :12 and :18. Going down before contact was actually made. Simulation. If Eduardo gets banned, so should Shrek
pat
ur 2nd string midfield lol, this midfield only defeated everton and pompy yeah there was fabregas. but other than that it looks same.
u dominateds the match still the winners are here. lucky we werent in full flow otherwise it would have been over for u.
well said mate. hypocrisy is one thing l hate and don’t think u can get away with decisions when u can’t take them on yrself
pat not a single arsenal player argued for that penalty. almunia himself knew that was a penalty.r u more intelligent than almunia.
thats wat i say u guys dont keep ur mouth shut bcos u know u arent that good.
haha ash, we weren’t in full flow either. Yes, 2nd string.
No Rosicky, Fabregas. We play 3 midfielders usually now and Song was the only starter playing today.
pathetic display by United
Sorry Scott, watch Rooney start dragging his left toe and heading for the ground long before Almunia touched him. And Almunia did put his hands up and roll his eyes when it was called; I think he didn’t make anything more of it because he knew the ref was doing a shitty job and might’ve sent him off.
I love Rooney but I’m not going to bullshit anyone and pretend that wasn’t a dive. The Arsenal fans had the class to admit to Eduardo’s dive, I think we should do the same.
ash, who the fuck cares how players reacted. They didn’t necesarily see it. Video evidence doesn’t lie. Rooney went down before he was touched and there is no arguing that
Whatever you muppets lot… United win, Arses lose… live with it. Who got booked for a swan dive last night??… That’s right, it’s Eboue..
Thank you Cav. Its part of the game, but I hate it when people deny it. It happened. Such a shame that Diaby headed in that 2nd goal. He was having a great game
check this link: http://www.receiveyourdreams.com, you’ll like what it has to say.
pat
yeah we are pathetic and we have been for past 5 years but still guys i cant understand how come we always beat u .
dont worry now a gooner fan will come and say we paid diaby to score a own goal.
u guys are total nonsense.guys go to ur site . ur next game is against another manchester and dont again cry if u lose again.
@ David
Tha fact that Toure has decided to swap annual failure to acheive for tons of cash is irrelevant. He was an Arsenal player when he made that save. Ronaldo is no longer a Man Utd player but you lot keep reminding us about his diving- you can’t have it both ways!
With regard to Rooney – he was fouled, it was in the penalty area, it was a penalty; a stupid penalty that your goalkeeper shouldn’t have given away but still a penalty. If you cannot see the difference between this and Eduardo/Eboue then you either need glasses because your eyes are very bad or you need psychiatric help because you are delusional.
This is why Arseal never win anything. They insist on blaming all of their defeats on bad refereeing, cheating opponents, poor playing surfaces, cold weather or anything else which allows them to ignore their own mistakes/ failings/ shortcomings and hold onto the myth that they somehow play some form of morally superior football.
For the past week you Arsenal fans have been littering this website with messages about how your team was going to beat us because you are so much better. Now that you’ve lost, you’re trying to impress us by telling us the better team lost. Here’s the thing, WE DON’T CARE! This is not synchronised swimming, artistic merit wins you nothing. We scored two goals, you scored one. We got the three points and, as Bruce Forsyth will tell you, points make prizes. Now, jog off back to your ballet forums and leave us alone!
readbeard
completely agree with u mate. they always find excuses for their loss.thats y u guys cant win a trophy for 5 years.
pat.i can understand your disappointment.arsenal didnt deserve to lose and the peno was certainly a dubious one.its sad actually that these big games are always overshadowed by refrees.however you wil agree that there was no need for almunia to cme like that as rooney was goimg wide anyway and though diaby was having a good game that og was crazy.arsenal are really good to watch and i love wengers philosophy but you have to become mentally strong.
Hey Gooners you need to chill.. Don’t be such sore losers its just a game of Football…
Ha!
Red Bearer
Who was blaming Anybody? Did you hear me blame anything on anyone?
Like how you swiftly talked about Ronaldo when ive been talking about Rooney. Shrek has a history of diving to get United back into the game…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cmpozcslIA
Now with something as pathetic and useless as that you idiots have the audacity to boo Eduardo?
Notice the ref wasnt Mike Riley, Mike Dean or Howard “the Red Devil faithful” Webb.
No no no of course everyone should stand up and do a minute’s applause for Eduardo right? Of course it’s normal for football fans to boo opposition players..
By the way I wonder how old these Arsenal fans are who have come here whinging so many hours after the game, bearing in mind those comments by the manager were at the heat of the moment when he had just lost and had yet to see replays of any incidents…
Just accept that you lost and move on to the next game people, life’s too short to be so bitter
Love it how Arsenal fans always complain… back Down To earth You Silly Fucking Gooners!
I’m not sure why I’m still up. Maybe the beer. But spot on Scott, Arsenal is just as bitter as the Bitters. Fuck the Gooners, fuck Arseshavin.
United for a fourth. LUHG.
Then why werent ALL our players booeed????
Wow…it gets more even more hypocritical.
Nobody is bitter. I just think its comical that you would boo players for diving…Which is exactly what you were doing to Eduardo given your history.
Very rich diving history
Nice article . Wenger’s boys cheat and get away with it . Adebayor goal was an example , and they are complaining about the penalty Arsenal deserved without realising that they score immediately . And the goalline clearance was by Toure , he knocked Lehmann down and saved rooney’s effort onto the post .
look how celtic goalkeaper reacted when the panalty was given .
almunia didnt do that bcose he knew it was a penalty. or almunia could care less about ur team. where was gallas MR CRIER even he didnt complain. guys the game is over so pack ur bags . we think about next game unlike u jokers or it would be better to say loosers.
@David
So you expect the Old Trafford faithful to Boo there own players , we will leave that to the Arsenal fans and there beautiful football . You are not bitter? Then why the hell are you posting stuff here , go to your Arsenal community man .
David – have you been to a football game? Eduardo was booed cos he is the hot topic at this moment.. It’s what football fans do, he can handle it so why can’t you?
I dont expect them to boo anybody. Why the fack are they booing our players for something they are guilty off??
Im here to laugh at youre idiocy and hypocrisy but youre obviously too slow to get that. So i’m spelling it out for you.
The fact that Eduardo’s diving is a hot topic is a proper disgrace in itself.
Shame.
any club in the world would have done that. poor eduardo and ebou they dont even know how to dive.
Dave – u r here to laugh at us? Now I’ve heard it all…
Thats precisely right.
Read my very first comment.
david
u know u guys arent in our league thats y u want ronaldos or chelsea to beat us. but dont worry we will also beat them and win trophies. and u guys just comment about referees and divers.
poor arsenal 5 years and counting without a single trophy.
Some people here are indeed stupid and clearly don’t understand football. Rooney was taken down by Almunia. It doesn’t really matter if the ball went to the stratford end or not. He was brought down and that was a clear penalty.
Eduardo went down majestically with no contact or whatsoever from Boruc. That was a dive. How on earth people could not differentiate this?
Wenger always cries when he loses. TRUE
ash- It’s not Manuel Almunia’s friday rage list so the difference in reaction is understandable…
I guess when Arshavin was taken down and the only contact he made with the ball was with his hands…im guessing the ref doesnt understand football at all.
Its settled then Cuz i was rather confused about that..”Some people”
Meaning Mike Dean….”are indeed stupida and cleadly dont understand football”
Preciate the clarification. I was confused on that meself.
Ash
As i said im not bitter..the funny thing about it is that when we play our game that we have back we’d have the same points but will be above you on goal difference…so really we lost but we’re still above you. Absolutely NO REASON to be bitter.
TheRadLegion – People do differentiate this, have you heard any actual football person say anything different to what you have said? Wenger will feel the same when he actually sees the incident, even if he does not say so in public.
I like Arsenal and their team, but bitter fans do them no favours.
Dave – Well that’s settled then! You are not bitter, OK understood. Now lets all have a party!
cav first of all i doubt whether u r a united fan .
u talk about rage whenever a keeper or player feels a wrong decision has been made he complains. he wont care even if he gets booked . but i didnt see that from anyone.
it is not for the first time that these things has happened . it has also happened with united but we dont make that much fuss about that u know y bcose we go for the next game and we know we will win that. but arsenal dont think like that.
Last Comment… Don’t you just hate International breaks!
WOW 6am (UK)! what am I doing here!
Best summed up by saying what goes round comes round. There will be a lot of ABUs just as happy to see the Arse lose. Whinger was sent to the stands because the 4th official had taken nothing but earache the whole game, the bottle was the final straw (great TV though lol ) Fletcher/Asharvin was a pen other than that all other decisions were right .
For us it was a great outing if we do not come away from this with a bit wiser then we are not the team we aspire to be ..
Well i keep saying im not bitter…but You lot keep insisting that we Arsenal fans are…when we have no reason to be…if anything we SHOULD find it comical that your team played like high classed horse dung…Ryan Giggs looks older by the second…and even tho..you managed to win…you had great help to do so…
When Valencia is allowed to Elbow Vermaalen no card…well let me not even get into that….We’re still above you. Wake up.
david
yeah arshavin one was a penalty. no doubt about that. but u are talking like a 10 year old child as if united paid the ref.
if u were in so good form u should have beaten us but u didnt.
yeah u are above us but silly guy 34 games are still left.
Yes sir
All the more reason why we SHOULDNT be bitter.
We can Afford to lose to United. I can bet you now we sure as piss wont lose to Burnley.
United 22 fouls 3 yellow Cards.
Arsenal 15 fouls 6 yellow Cards.
And 1 red Card to Wenger with 3 seconds left in the match.
Ofcoarse. It must be that im a 10 year old kid.
I’m an Arsenal fan.
I think the bitter fans are a bit dumb.
I mean, honestly, yesterday more than ever I felt the fortress of old Trafford. I must say that I thought the referee was very much influenced by the OT atmosphere, and that he gave a lot of decisions your way, especially the ludicrous challenge in your penalty box in the first half, which saw karma duly take over and Arse-shavings score a goal.
But that said, it’s not like we don’t enjoy the rub of the green at The Emirates. UTD are UTD, they’re a HUGE club and they earned the luxury of that reputation and stadium.
Arsenal have imploded many times over the last 4 years and last night was no different. Our defending and goalkeeping gave away the penalty, so I have no complaints. As for the own goal, that happens, and that’s why you have to take your chances.
I was embarrassed to see Wenger do his stage show yesterday. But was he sent the forcefully by the ref? If he was, that was poor refereeing. Or did Wenger go up there to have a bit of the spotlight? Can anyone clarify.
Anyways. I’m horribly gutted. But I had a feeling the Mancs would turn the screw.
There’s a long way to go.
yeah atleast that means burnley are better than u guners. we lost but we dont complain we admitted we played badly and we were also poor last night.
maybe next time when a ref helps u and u still lose u will say that our players were paid.
@ David
these are only numbers. you can not judge on just numbers.
look at every Fletch tackle. Every one of those tackles were fair. Everytime he plays the game he shows true sportsmanship and you are in England. Just because you didn’t have english players on the pitch yesterday doesn’t necessary mean you live in another country.
Look at the game with cool head anв you want see any biased referring.
Wenger’s sending off was a mistake. Maybe Fletch’s foul was a penalty but how many of those aren’t given in the premiership ? And again Fletch looked for the ball. Arshavin was just too quick and skillful. If you scored from the penalty Arshavin wouldn’t have scored some moments later.
I still don’t get why Arsene refused to discipline his own players.. If he (or she) dived then Arsene should just come out and say so.. Arsene kindda reminds me of those parents who spoil their children.
Ash, I’m as much of a fan as you but rather than giving the arsenal supporters the satisfaction of finding out that we’re not mature enough to admit that our players, like every other team, dive sometimes, I’m conceding that yes, Rooney clearly dove. Blind faith does not a loyal fan make. As for Almunia, he already had one yellow card and he knows it’s in his team’s best interest for him to be in goal, so instead of risking getting sent off for dissent, he sucked it up and let it go because that’s what was best for his team. He showed self-restraint beyond what we would see from most players when put in that situation.
And don’t lie, if United lost a huge game like this on what you thought was a dive, you’d be just as pissed off as they are now, and for good reason.
@Corea
yes I second that, Arshavin scored 24 seconds after Fletcher’s tackle..
@David
You can’t be seriously suggesting that Arshavin scores from the spot, runs to the centre of the field, gets the ball from MU and score again all in 24 seconds ? if you do, you might want to try to go out and try it yourself first before posting a reply.
I can’t believe Arsenal fans can be so ignorant and fool to unaccepted the result. It was a win by Man United no matter how you say. I agree Man United didn’t play well but it’s your own player that score the winning goal for United. Last minute equalizer was truly a offside.
What’s more you want to say? I know we shouldn’t say Arsenal player are a cheat but looking at the replay of Eboue, it’s a real dive. After a week with Celtic dive, there is another dive and it prompts people to say Arsenal play are cheater. I know its unfair however, it is really difficult as i think a dive is really unacceptable in football and Eboue really had the intent to fool the referee.
Well done David. Arsenal fans bitter?
More double standards from United.
Wenger ridiculed for his post matchcomments yet SAF can come out straight faced and say fletchers tackle on arshavin wasn’t a peno?
SAf blasts the security at Emirates but looked what wenger was subjected to when he was sent off for kicking a poxy water bottle with three mins to go?
Rooney did dive- he was on his way down BEFORE Almunias arms came across- he just made a better fist of it than eduardo.
Fletcher should have seen a card/ cards for persistent fouling.
The referees performance was summed up when he booked van persie soon after failing to award arsenal the peno for a cleaner tackle.
That said Eboue is a persistent cheat- no arsenal fan will defend him.
Utd didn’t need to beat us- we beat ourselves. We were the better team today none of you muppets can deny that but unfortunately results matter. On what i saw today Chelsea have nothing to worry about.
David – you are typical blinkered cunt. Our players may not be saints at all, but your players are fucking cheating cunts. Remember Pires kicking Stefanovic of Portsmouth to get himself a penalty back in the 2003/04 season that preserved your unbeaten run? Probably not eh! Oh and I know we lost to Burnley and you may not, but we beat you so who gives a shit about that defeat. We have lost to lesser teams and have still gone on to win the league – look at last season when we lost twice to Liverpool, away at Arsenal and away at Fulham.
Rooney didn’t dive and everyone knows it but, the Arsenal fans and the people claiming to be be “United” supporters in an effort to try show that hey look everyone, even United supporters are saying Rooney dove. Doesn’t work … the only people talking about Rooney diving are bitter Gooner fans that saw their team throw a chance to down United on a day we didn’t play well and the ABU crew.
Arsenal played better in the middle of the park and one wonder goal and a couple of chances were all they created. How many saves did Foster have to make? The goal and the RVP’s freekick.
AW had no reason to complain,why the heck they got 5 minutes of injury time is beyond me. What lengthy injuries were there in the second half? Silly to get sent off but, stupid of him to crumble like that especially after his team crumbled. To show frustration like that to your own players – what a silly move.
This is the same team that crumbled a couple of seasons ago after losing to Birmingham … same mentally weak team with equally mental manager who never sees his own players dive or commit a foul but, can see every little touch by opposing teams with his eyes closed and back turned to the play.
@ Gerry Gooner
“On what i saw today Chelsea have nothing to worry about.”
do you try hypnosis from time to time ?
it looks like you are just trying to convince yourself but in the back of your mind you know we are contenders for the title as much as Chelsea are.
dream on.
Look at the game as a whole. Every one of Fletch’s tackles were fair. He is a fair player and you play in England. Doesn’t matter if you have a single english player in the team.
gerry gooner r u a chelsea or arsenal fan. it doesnt matter whether u r arsenal,chelsea or newcastle fan the bottomline is we will remain the champs.
BAWWWWWW, 12 men United, Mike Dean, Mike Riley, Howard Webb, FA corrupt BAWWWW!!! Same old shit when they lost! Hell, we probably paid Diaby too. What a cracker that goal was!
Yes look at the game as a whole….exactly…how did fletcher escape when Song and Van persie didn’t?
‘He is a fair player and you play in England. Doesn’t matter if you have a single english player in the team.’ WTF?????
Are you all telling me that Fletchers tackle on Arshavin wasn’t a peno????
@Shimo- your first shot on target part from the peno was on 70 min from evra ffs!!
Muppets. David I don’t know how you lasted here with these cretins.
Facts from the game:
1.Rooney absolutely didn’t dive.Almunia’s fault.He came for the ball,which he didn’t need to do so.
2.Eboue freaking DIVED.DIVER.DIVER.DIVER.DIVER.DISGUSTING DIVER.
3.Good goal by Arshavin.
4.Our Dear Berba man should get an award for the best misses.He rocks.But really,omg,that miss sent me shell shocked.
5.We have to stop panicking.Our first half was poor passing.I can’t count the number of times we lost the ball.
6.Crazy game
It’s funny how all the rival fans hope to see ronny coming back to OT and beating us in the Champions league.After years of hating the boy,saying he’s a cheat,he’s nothing,only beats small teams and whatsoever,they talk like this now.WIERD,this is what i call BRAINLESS.
@David
good dive by rooney… full time score reads man u 2 arsenal 1. simply said. enough of ur crap.
glory glory man utd!!
cherry gooner
david was stupid like u are. u both are losers.
and u loser arshavin one was penalty but like howie said he scored seconds after that. if u had got pen u still would have been one up only.
so talk with some sense boy.
@ Gerry Gooner
what are still doing here ? you all come to the other teams’s blogs and spread you truth. you all end up with insults and what is the point ?
i didn’t say Fletcher’s tackle wasn’t a penalty but you are all so very clever judging on the replays. Ref doesn’t have the replays. All i wanted to say that all the tackles Fletch made was fair. RVP and Song fouls weren’t fair. Is it that hard to understand these simple things ?
You want to say you won nothing for years because of the refs ?
I am saying it and i beleive in it – today’s ref wasn’t biased but he made some mistakes.
get over it morons,it is a game,afriggin game.people are dieing in afganistan.are you working do you have food for your kids.rooney fabregas etc dont have them kind of problems.get a life chelsea will bore the league title arsenal or utd second.
Arsenal can’t complain, they outplayed the Moaners and didn’t look like conceding and then imploded. Yes, Dean clearly reacted to the persistent squealing of the home fans, but you can’t blame him for a needless foul in the area and an inexplicably unnecessary own goal, can you? That’s just poor concentration from Arsenal I’m afraid.
However, I do find it disturbing that we have to listen to retarded Man U knuckle draggers called Wenger a paedophile. I get angry and disgusted when I hear sick Liverpool fans taunting your fans about Munich, and I hope there are Man U fans out there that can see this is just a disgrace to your club and a vile insult to a decent and honourable man.
It’s just a shame that Manchester seem to have these kind of morons (witness the clueless Man U twat who printed himself a “Hillsborough” t-shirt saying 96 was not enough – what a cretin to have associated with your team).
Well done on your victory, although I don’t think Arsenal deserved to lose, and if they play like that every week then it will be a massive improvement over last season.
I normally find this site quite interesting but what is the headline about?
Arsenal fans/ Arsene Wenger aren’t bitter, they’re disappointed, having layed well and lost.
I’d have thought that was quite natural.
The idea that ManU get no benefit from playing at home seems a bit of an unrealistic over defensive claim to me.
He didn’t print it, he bought it from Sports World.
United win games when they dont play well, that is the difference between us and other teams. Imagine what we would have done to the arse if we did play well.
Our squad is a bit thin at the moment but when players start to return we will be back to our goal machine selves.
@ howie – don’t be stupid we don’t expect arshavin to score the penalty and score again from centre field in 24 seconds..we’re merely asking for justice to be served, fletcher should be booked (a) for the reckless challenge (b) for handling the ball in the box (c) for committing tons of fouls, but yet he didn’t even get booked the entire match..if he had been booked earlier, surely he won’t have influenced the match as it is..
yes i admit that eduardo did dive, however so did rooney. if you look at sky ultra slow motion replay, rooney dragged his feet way before almunia made contact with him..rooney was playing for the foul which he got when almunia did made contact with him. so in other words, rooney conned the referee and with the intent to ensure that the referee made the wrong decision..
so if eduardo is crucified in europe for diving, so should rooney in fact he should get more games banned as his track record of being a serial diver. but of course the FA won’t penalise their golden boy won’t they?? after all he’s english, and with the media biase over english players surely those people at sky would have deleted the footage..
@ afromanc
i think you are right dude we did not play well to even diserve to win
i mean you could tell by the way our midfield accept fletcher was perfoming,saf needs to sort the obstacles between him and ando
we really lacked his speed and physical in our game we were poor on counter attacks where anderson is good at.
the poor goons they have the right to be angry hey let them be,
they will never lack something to blame each time we beat em
and i did not know they were so many on our site hahahahaha!!!
now you are talking about the media been on our side yet we clearly know how biased they have been on us????
after eduardo dive the only place where the issue was raised was on the rom while tabloids just called it a controversy,
its okay i agree rooney dived yesterday but can you please provide an evidence or link of another dive???
we should find a chant for diaby
viva diaby! viva diaby!!!
@ Izham
Come on, wake up.
It doesn’t matter if you are playing for a foul / penalty or not.
The rules state that if you foul a player in the box, it’s a penalty.
Rooney may or may not “play” the ball for a penalty.
FACT is Almunia tripped him = penalty. FULL STOP.
Eduardo did not get a contact from the keeper in Celtic game.
FACT is he dived to get a penalty.
No tripping = NO PENALTY. FULL STOP.
Being a Gooner fan shouldn’t toxic your mind of rational judgement, eh?
rooney didn’t dive almunia took him out
eboube dived and wenger has said fa about that
gooners sort out your own cheats before you look elsewhere
Bottom Line..United 2 Arsenal 1 =3 points, live with it gooners and move on.
United will improve, arsenal have already peaked.!
I don’t subscribe to this “Arsenal played us off the park, and were the better team” maybe they edged it first half but it was very even second half, end to end stuff. If you look at the stats United actually edged it. More possession and more shots.
If the likes of staunch ABU’s like Gray, dipper Lawrenson and bitter Lee Dixon say it is a penalty then you know it was.
hahaha…. gooners are just precious!!! Rooney dived?! Did he feck!! I believe the only player that dived yesterday got a yellow card and surprise surprise he was an arsenal player!! Please, stop moaning and being so bitter, we might start to mistake you for Man Shitty!! You played well, We won, get over it!!
Personally I think Eboue should have the book thrown at him, if they are talking 2-4 games for Eduardo then Eboue should get a 10 game ban. Eduardos was bad but you could argue he was expecting contact as usually happens but Eboues was one of the most Blatent Dives ever and it was more than just a Dive to get an advantage, it was a dive that would seem to have had just one intention, to get Evra a second yellow. Patrice actually seemed like he thought he was about to go for an early bath when the Whistle went and the Ref reached for the Card.
Wakey – Yeah I thought that, the look on Pat’s face thought HE was walking.
@ David and the rest of the Gooners on here
Like I said before, WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!
You keep saying you’re not bitter but why else would someone spend hours on another team’s forum telling everyone that you were the better team, our team is shit, we’re not gonna win anything etc. Who are you trying to convince, us or yourselves?
Look at it like this, you played a misfiring United side still trying to adapt to the absence of Ronaldo, none of whose players had a decent first half and you still couldn’t get a result. Yes, you beat Everton 6-1, and Portsmouth 4-1 but neither of those results was anymore impressive than our 5-0 win over Wigan so you have nothing to brag about. As usual, when Arseanal are up against it they fail to deliver, but seeing as most of you are gloryhunting bastards who don’t even know who the manager was before Wenger you will never admit your teams inadequacies so you accuse people of diving and accuse referees of bias (this is made all the more easy by the fact that most of you know fuck all about football having spent most of your life watching Rugby).
You lost, you may have been the better team but you still lost and no amount of bitching and whining will change that. Like i said before, this is why your team never wins anything because they refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings.We might not win the leage this year, but we have just won it three years in a row, and we certainly won’t go another five years without a trophy!
If I were you, I would go back to the Arseanal websites, discuss the upcoming season at the Royal Opera House and relax, either that or use the internet for something more productive (I hear there are a lot of websites that show pictures of naked ladies). Either way just go away and leave us alone!
Hey, these Gooners don’t like it up ‘em do they?
Arsenal have beneftted from some appalling refereeing decisions in recent United games, the fact that we, for a change, had the rub of the ref., is sweet.
Arsene has a habit of building teams with absolutely no discipline, players who like to act like gentlement when they are winning, but as soon as the chips are down, it’s same old Arsenal, petulant, whining, dirty, hypocritical cunts.
As for the clown that said Arsenals second string midfield bossed our “first choice” midfield…..You must know more than Fergie, because i’m afraid even he doesn’t know Uniteds “first choice” midfield. Besides, we played with three midfielders yesterday, where as we normally play 442 (this season) anyway, so its hardly our first choice proper. Fletch still had you on toast yesterday though.
Fletcher, Midfield General.
arsenal did not edge that game, united had more posession, more shots on goal, more corners…more goals..
usual gooner fans, they invented football, their football is far superior to anybodys! when was the last time ye won a trophy twats? when was the last time there was a good atmosphere at the ground? how long did you wave your flags in the semi final far? are ye not embarassed by your attempts to copy german football when ur announcer announces your team ye join in unison with the players surname! embarassing as only about 1000 people do it…
Ye are known for the last 10 years as a indisciplined club who cannot take their beating. Pizzagate?
Jog on now ye cretins..
Ye started well this year, just like last year (remember what happened then) and the same will happen this year, your kids are good but they have no fortitude or bottle for a fight….
Well said Readbeard. These gooner losers find it difficult to swallow the bitter pill just like their team manager Whinner Wenger – finding excuses after excuses for the defeat. They are in complete denial of their team’s shortcomings. Their ‘doctor’ Whinney should diagnose the cause of the disease affecting the team by carrying out a post mortem instead of looking for guinea pigs and scapegoats – in the form of biased referees, diving players of the opposing teams, etc – for their failings. The gooners could have had a heavier beating if not for the many misses of the MU players especially towards the end. Anyway, whatever can be said but at the end of the 90+4 minutes, MU emerged victorious. That’s what counts. The gooners can say “If only …” and “we were the better team …” but the scoreboard still reads “Manchester United 1 Arsenal 0″ at the end of the game. Glory, Glory Man Utd.
@ sam the kenyan red and all the arse’s
It is actually hilarious how all this arse fans come on here to try and justify THEIR loss… It’s as if they sat their thinking,”If we lose this game i’m going onto that United blog and letting them have it to the best of my ability”. HAHAHA! Fucking pathetic you are.At the end of the day, behind all the petty bullshit it all comes down to the fact that WE won!, get over it.
I just dont understand what Arsenal fans are saying. Yes it was a foul by Fletcher on Arshavin and a penalty. But you scored 30 seconds after on the same play. Why you guys are crying over it is beyond me. If penalty was awarded it could have gone either way.
Exactly Mangesh. If the penalty was given, Arshavin would have never taken that shot! And who knows if they would have scored their penalty anyway? Personally though, i think that in England you rarely see penlties like that. By the letter of the law, Fletcher got the ball…
The reason Arsenal fans are all on here is because they are insecure and thoroughly obsessed with what other people think.
United fans get a lot of criticism, but no club has a more plastic fan-base than Arsenal. They have no real love for, or pride in their club, they just arrogantly perpetuate this myth about Arsenal’s superior brand of football, hence, when they lose, they have to try and convince everyone that the defeat wasn’t their fault and they were really the better team.
The Wenger chants may be in poor taste, but I would still rather have our fans than have a 60,000 seater stadium we can’t fill and have to provide our supporters with song sheets and printed instructions on what to do with their free scarves!
Readbeard – Some belting posts from you on here today!
Readbeard is absolutely spot on. They just can’t fill the Arab Palace as the “supporters” sit home, sip on a bottle of wine (or whine, eh?), and watch highlights on Sky. After, they come here and complain.
Just remember, five years and that’s a FACT.
off topic – Why do commentators refer to the bitters as a “big club”? Another thing have you heard the arrogant deluded cunts singing “Who the fuck are Man Utd”. Jokers.
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enough of these guuners. mates where is petrucci. i havent seen him play for a long time in the academy.
Fellow United fans, please stop pointing out Arsenal’s shortcomings. We all know they are massively petulant, have zero to no discipline and fail to ‘finish off’ teams, but if they were to correct those things they might have a chance at a trophy again. So lets just go along with them and hope Wenger never realise’s what the problem is and leaves everything the way it is now.
Yes Arsenal fans, you are the greatest team in the history of the world. Brazil ’70 and Holland ’74 look like drunken hobo’s trying to wallop a ball around with the promise of a bottle of white lightening and 50 pence for the one man who can kick it straightest when compared to your team of beautiful artists. Under Wenger no team has ever beaten you fairly, every single loss has been purely down to cheating by players and/or refs, and no blessed Arsenal star would ever resort to sullying the beautiful game. If the universe is fair you would win every game, for the rest of time, all you have to do is keep everything just the way it is now. Please do, as having only Chelsea as rivals for OUR title is quite comforting.
@ Dazjoe
Brilliant! LOL
Snore. We’ll bounce back. You’ve put in one good 45 minutes all season. The problems are with you at the moment, not us.
Great article scott, hit the nail on head as usaual. Who gives a fcuk if arseholes played better than us yesterday the result matters most, dont forget the fa cup final in 05 wen whinger parked the bus, cunts beat us on pens. ps it was penalty end of take it on the chin
Jonny go get a hug from ur mum mate, think ya need it pal.
jonny bravo
yeah we have problem we had problems for last 5 years but stil we lift the trophy.u know y bcose we find solutions for the problem unkile u loosers who just go to others site just to get insulted.
u guys just blame on refs, weathers, ground, structure of the stadium noises made in the stadium and blah blah .
hey johnny if u ever meet eboue just ask him to learn how to dive. or better send to us. we are champs in everything.
But you haven’t found any solutions to the problems this time. If you think winning the league is going to be as easy as last year you’re in for a rude awakening. Yeah cheers I’ll send Eboue to United, he can learn how to dive properly from Rooney eh?
Jonny.
You seem to forget that you once had Pires in your side who taught every fucker to dive!
You were hard done by yesterday, but get over it, you can’t have it all your own way all of the time. At least there was contact on Rooney, that’s more than can be said of your “Tom Daly” in midweek.
That’s four games you’ve not beaten us in now, I suppose it was luck in all those games was it?.
Before you blame other people for yesterday’s defeat, get someone to have a word in the ear of that daft twat Diaby; he’s the main reason you lost.
Now run along, there’s a good boy!
Jonny 2 bad, send eboue down to ot so wazza can show em some of his medals, u no bacause eboue does’nt ave any.
No Jonny. Eboue has done his graduation from diving school pioneered by Robert Pires.
I’m not sure, Michael Owen had a few for England in France and South Korea. Think he thought he was at the Olympics rather than the World Cup. Needed someone to replace the void left by Ronaldo though i guess…
Dont be bitter jonny take it on the chin.
Jonny – How bitter? Why are you referring to Owen from nearly TWELVE years ago?
Jonny,
Ronaldo wasn’t a patch on Pires, but do as willierednut says, take it on the chin, it happens to us all.
How do you think we felt when you beat us in the F.A. Cup final on penalties a few years ago, when we dominated, which was one of the most one sided cup finals ever? It wrankles; but you’ll play a lot worse than you did yesterday, ans win easily
Football like life is never fair. In the end, all that matters is the three points at the end of the game. So, in spite of the fact that you lot were very very unlucky to have lost, I would advise Arsenal fans (at the cost of sounding a little patronizing) to concentrate on the match against the real scum of Manchester. And trust me you will truly appreciate the fickle nature of football when you find a whole lot of United fans cheering for you.
Its karma, goons! what goes ard comes ard! even till e very last min, you were denied a goal. you have hurt e people of scotland and fletch does his revenge! so hush hush now u goons or fate shall be ill to you again next week! hahahaha fuckin devils marchin to title no 19!!!
This is priceless. You couldn’t make it up.
@CAV: what Arsenal fans have you been talking to? I’d love to meet them cuz the ones I’ve been speaking to, still say there was CONTACT from BORUC and that Eduardo dove because he was scared for his leg, lmfao.
@KING ERIC: the weird thing is that even ALAN GREEN, probably the most ABU person alive, admitted it was a PENALTY and even shouted down a bitter Arsenal fan on 606 who tried to dispute it. Green defending United is something you’ll probably never see again this season.
I don’t get the outrage from Arsenal fans though. All I hear from you guys is the way you dominated the match and deserved to win. Then why didn’t you score MORE? After the pen, it was still 1-1, wasn’t it? You guys should have turned your domination into goals and battered us 3-1 or something. Diaby’s own goal sealed the match NOT Rooney’s penalty, at 1-1 with about 25 mins more, there was still a chance for you to score one more but didn’t, so why’s everyone blaming Rooney?
And to those saying Arsenal played a 2nd string midfield, errr, United played a second string defence. Both teams had players missing, and those people mentioning Rosicky are being silly, he’s been out for almost a year and the half, can we mention Hargreaves too?
izham – im pretty sure that this is a site for manutd fans. piss off!
MUFC!
David @ 4.10
Let him come and feel the force that awaits him.
Where is Old Toilet by the way?
Talk about selling out – Old Trafford is still Old Trafford, what level did you go to to sell Asburton Grove or Highbury two into the Emirates Stadium?
You lost a match yet your bitterness is astounding. The only thing inevitable will be when we win the premiership and beat you to the Champions League again will you realise that we are better than you.
Oh sorry, come again, have you not realised that in the last three years?
Oh Arsenal fans bitter about the penalty you never got:
I wish you had it it still would not have meant that when Arshavin scored moments later that you would have scored a second one – so your point about not getting the penalty is what exactly? You might not have scored the penalty if it were given therefore what are you ranting about?
Amazing how hot headed you lot are getting about it – I remember your fans laughing stupidly when Fletch got sent off for a brilliant tackle against cesc in the CL semi
What goes around comes around, if you can’t take it we took it last year at your backyard when we lost 2-1 and as I remember correctly we played brilliantly. However we didn’t complain we lost – something you can’t get a handle of
No sense in arguing. If you’ve made up your mind that we are bitter then fair play to you.
Im just sitting back laughing at the whole thing
Oh by the way The FA can fuck off with their apology.
Hypocritical bastards.
Re David@19.22
You may not know but on these pages I stick up for Arsenal because in AW you have what we have in SAF. They are now two pioneers of world football because they both believe in the way of youth. Why we have been better than you is that we still have players of experience to play alongside raw talent. Arsenal don’t. That’s not to say that Arsenal are inferior to MU.
However in no way is MUFC inferior to Arsenal eitheir. If all the chances were taken in yesterdays match United would have still won. The two missed chances at the end were criminal. If they had gone in, you guys wouldn’t be coming on here and arguing that you were better. You play brilliant football, but so do we and the trophies in the last three years are proof of that – do you or any Arsenal supporter disagree otherwise – then the laugh is on you.
Remember the fa cup final back in 05? We battered you guys to kingdom come and lost on penalties. Are you saying that the better team lost? I bet you aren’t. It’s a match and at the end of yesterday we won you lost and nothing has been decided. But for you guys to come on here and argue you are a class above us – no you aren’t. You will be though if you beat us to the premiership/fa/carling/Cl trophies etc.
As for Ronaldo again, well I could be bitter and say you could draw Barcelona and Henry might dump you out, but I won’t because I would rather see Arsenal football outplay Barcelona football. At the end I hope to see that Arsenal and Utd meet in the final of the CL to show everyone that we play better football than everyone else. Why do you think AW and SAF finally get on? Because they are older, wiser and share a passion of football that begins and ends in youth. Plus more importantly they know when to rebuild teams like no one else does. If anyone were to win the premiership over us then I would bite the bullet and say Arsenal because of AW vision of football coincides with SAF and as a supporter I can understand that.
I hope that I have demonstrated to you that I can have a debate with a rival supporter without being meaningless.
P.S. I too laugh at what happened yesterday and find it a disgrace that AW was treated like that at the end because what he did was nothing. If SAF had done that in the 95th minute of time I hope common sense would prevail.
arsenal did play better football on the day but that dosnt mean anything if u cant scores the goals. man utd wanted the win more than arsenal its not about who deserves the win its abouut who wanted it more arsenal didnt. as 4 the own goal who was behind diaby when the free kick came in it would hav been a goal either way
@ David
You, an Arsenal fan have been posting on a Man Utd forum all day. Not being funny, mate but haven’t you got anything better to do?
Why are the arses kicking up this big a fuss about Fletcher’s foul? It was the same attack that lead to Arshavin’s goal, so I really don’t see how they lost out on a goal or whatever.
The difference between Eduardo and Rooney was that Boruc did not make contact while Almunia did. That doesn’t take Einstein to figure out, does it?
Wenger should look at these 2 videos before opening his mouth. Now tell me who is anti-football.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0djx3–mlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqeXXHjJq24&feature=related
The gooners should just switch sports and play chess. Football is a contact sport. Expect there to be tackles, contact and some fouls. The ref gave free kicks for any fouls and he didn’t feel that any of Fletch’s or Carrick’s tackles deserved a card as they didn’t deserve one.
The press keep pointing out that United committed more fouls but received less bookings. Gleefully overlooking the fact tha one of Arsenal’s players was booked for diving and another booked for dissent.
There’s nothing in the rules of football that says Rooney should have had a chance to reach the ball after he poked it past Almunia. Even if Rooney was to kick the ball 50 yards to the side, the foul happenned and was obvious and that’s why it is a penalty. Period.
If your beloved Fabregas pokes the ball past Vidic but the ball runs over the touchline and Vidic then clippes Fabregas with a twofooted late challenge, wouldn’t you expect it to bee a penalty or a freekick, even if the ball is 40 yards away?
The difference between Rooney and Eduardo is that in one of the cases there was clear contact. I think you Gooners know it wasn’t at Emirates last week.
You’re just bitter because you didn’t win over a very below par United!