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Poor Old Carlos – Eyes Bigger Than His Belly?

Poor old Carlos Queiroz has lost his job as the manager of Portugal, with the FPF president Gilberto Madail making the announcement today.

“On the 14th we announced two objectives which needed to be satisfied. They were to qualify for the finals and to qualify for the elimination phase. Even though these objectives were met, we thought the result fell short of what we expected. After analysis it was decided to terminate Queiroz’s contract immediately.”

Portugal currently sit 4th out of 5 in their Euro qualifying group, behind Cyprus, after losing 1 and drawing 1.

I do wonder if Queiroz is a man whose eyes are too big for his belly. After wolfing down a respectable about at the all you can eat buffet, he’ll always go up for that one plate too many that makes him throw up.

At a certain level, he is excellent, but beyond that, he’s punching above his weight, as stints at Real Madrid and Portugal have shown.

Maybe I’ve being unkind, he didn’t get much of a chance in Madrid, thanks to the president at the time, Florentino Perez, who sold Makelele behind Queiroz’s back and wouldn’t back Queiroz’s decision to sign Pepe, amongst other things. Then with Portugal, the 6 month ban he stupidly brought on himself didn’t help, but Portugal had a disappointing World Cup. Although, didn’t everyone? It’s not as if even Spain or Holland set the world alight.

But at a lower level, Queiroz did a great job, first with the Portugal U-20. The Portuguese “Golden Generation”, which included the talents of Luis Figo and Rui Costa, was attributed to his scouting. His work with the Under-20s in Portugal, discovering talent, saw them develop and as the first team years late, reach the 2000 European Championship semi-finals, then finalists 4 years later, as well as the 2006 World Cup semis.

Then at United, as our number 2, he was fabulous. There’s no way we would have won the European Cup in 2008 if not for the tactics he brought in. Fancy being able to keep Barcelona at bay at the Nou Camp and Old Trafford?

I don’t blame him for leaving us either time. I think they are probably the only two jobs he would leave us for and they both happened to come up. He knew if he stayed as our number 2 he would probably get the United job one day, but he knew Sir Alex well and knew “one day” could be a long way away.

It’s a shame though because his career will most likely peter out when he could have been a part of lots more massive success at United.

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Would you still have Carlos Queiroz as United manager?




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84 Comments

  1. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @williered, You lot have hit the nail on the head. We have only to change Mike Phelan’s name and he will become a formidable number 2, even overnight!. It should give him stature and maybe even some spine. Hopefully a sense of humor and some worldly knowledge. So go on, let’s change it!

    There was an interesting model for this suggested by some bloggers:
    You take your middle initial and insert it somewhere into your first name. Then you add on the smallest foreign town you’ve ever visited. So, we have our basic material, Michael Christopher Phelan. Take the c, drop the Phelan and we have McIke “El Red” de Carmona. The last from the site of Parador outside of Seville where he has gone to scout Luis Fabiano and others.

    Scott: We can have a competition! ReNaming Mikey Phelan! Or as the Americans say, ReBranding ;)
    Must be a T-shirt we can give away, or something?

  2. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @MG Sorry mate, yours is good too!
    @arijc You actually think we do any thing on this site that isn’t “hypothetical”? ha ha ha ha ha ha, ooo, that is a good one

  3. willierednut says:

    How about Mickey Mourinho?

  4. willierednut says:

    Mickey Lopez?

  5. MG says:

    Michaelangelo Miguel Dos Santos Olivera Phelinho

    is Mike Phelan : )

  6. Dave Mack says:

    Fergie will have already fiqured this all out. Lets face it. Carlos’s days have been numbered for quite a while now. I even wonder if the fact that he promoted Mike rather than bring in someone new might have anything to do with him expecting him to re-establish his team to what it was in 2008 at some time in the future. (Might he have even made this clear to Phelan?)

    Clearly with the signing of Bebe he’s still on good terms with Queiroz. I wouldn’t be surprided to see him bnack in some capacity but one way or the other …Fergie knows already!

  7. RedScot says:

    Never go back i think is true, to go back thrice seems totally unrealistic.
    I do believe when you are applying for a post the prospective employer tends to look at your CV.
    Within said CV ,tells with facts why he wont return to United.

  8. TheRadLegion says:

    I don’t know how you can blame him really. People want to advance at some point in their life, Carlos was presented with that opportunity and he took it . I feel sorry it did not work for him, but at least he gave his best.

  9. Terrystears says:

    On a slight tangent there’s some wild rumour he took one fir ronaldo who he knew would fail a drugs test and told the FIFA drug man to fuck off, hence the stupid drug test argument all kicked off. Very wild rumour and utter shite no doubt but still funny if ronaldo has caught the galacticos disease , ie partying and coke

  10. Costas says:

    As others already said, a great number 2 for Sir Alex, but a lousy number 1. Don’t think we will ever see him back at United though. It seems like his time has come and gone. Not sure I agree with Scott that he probably would have gotten Fergie’s job once he retired. At the time I remember hearing that CQ left because he wasn’t guaranteed that would happen..

    In other news, I hope Ando is ok. Not expecting to see him this Saturday, but hopefully it’s not anything serious.

  11. FletchTHEMAN says:

    MG: Michaelangelo Phelinho, is the bomb. You are the man.

  12. MG says:

    FletchTHEMAN

    Humbly at your service : )

  13. whatUP! says:

    Some people undermining CQ’s loyality by saying that he jumped ship, when the first offer came in, and that Phelan would do the same. Well, give Mike Phelan the opportunity to take over Chelsea or England and make him decide. CQ got the two biggest jobs he could dream of, of course he would take those jobs. Bring him back allready.

  14. Schmucks says:

    thats why he’s Sir Alex’s number 2

  15. Dave Mack says:

    Agree with Costas that CQ was never likely to be our No 1 and that leaving for RM and then Portugal made sense once he knew that.

    None-the-less, Fergie clearly trusts his scouting and tactical ability and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him appointed to some role, at least pro tem, shortly.

  16. jimmybob says:

    Sir Alex loves him as a coach, he did a good job at untd . If he can help get him back

  17. AON- Americans Out Now says:

    I d love to have CQ back.. But he is good as an Asst. Mike Phelan hasnt been great in Europe and Rene is not that experienced either.

    CQ is the Man…Hope He returns for one last stint!

  18. RedGem says:

    Oh well, hindsight is 20/20… he never should have left United in the first place and when he did I had my doubts that he’d do well as Portugal coach.

  19. CROoney says:

    some people should just stay scouts….or the best they can do is to lead the young teams…not everyone has th MENTALITY to lead the big teams…he obvioulsy good in finding young players and developing them

  20. Sindrinho says:

    Norway – Portugal 1-0 EASY! =D

  21. King Eric says:

    denton and Willierednut – Spot on about Phelan lads. But no lets fuck him off eh so CQ can waltz straight back in. Unbelievable.

  22. afromanc says:

    He was a sensation at United and I hope he comes back!!!

    The portuguese fa has made a huge mistake…

  23. willierednut says:

    Judging by the way Portugal played in the WC, i don’t think the Portugese fa have made a mistake.

  24. AlphaRS says:

    I’d have CQ back. He is a very very very good number 2.
    I always got the feeling he gave something for SAF to consider in terms of tactics.
    Fergie Sign Him Up!

  25. willierednut says:

    AlphaRS – That’s a lot of verys lol.

  26. King Eric says:

    Do people honestly not think that Fergie just may know A BIT about tactics,

  27. willierednut says:

    King Eric – Sir Alex is completely devoid of ideas, so he needs CQ back for that purpose. Seriously though, the fans that question Mickey Phelan’s credentials, are in the same breath questioning SAF judgement. I’m with you, he shouldn’t be allowed to just waltz back in at United, though i wouldn’t be surprised if he does come back.

  28. matttt says:

    The 2 jobs he’s “walked out” on us were the Real Madrid job and his national team job.

    We’re all a bit blinkered, but come on. Surely you can understand him taking up these opportunities ffs.

    It’s quite difficult to guage how good our assistant managers are and how much is down to Fergie. We don’t see what they do and really, with all of them has come major success.

    Giggsy and Scholsey would be the people to ask how good they all are. Maybe they’re reading this lovely commentry from armchair pundits who actually, know fuck all

  29. Zulu-Malta says:

    Wrong decision to leave Utd Carlos. When you leave us there is only one way to go and that’s down the drain,no matter who you are. It will be a very good signing IF he returns at O.T.

  30. ninfan says:

    I was laughing at France but then here comes the FPF from the back of the pack to take the lead. The clowns at the top should be fired not Carlos

  31. willierednut says:

    If he kisses SAF on the backside, then he can come back.

  32. grein says:

    I hope he comes back to United.

  33. dave says:

    RENE MEULENSTEEN ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  34. Buliwyf says:

    hope his eyes didn’t cheat on him when he spotted this £7m thing for us!

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