Phil Dowd will be our referee tonight as we take on newly promoted Burnley away.
Positives: His name has been dragged through the press this week by Rafael Benitez for not awarding a penalty so maybe he will be more likely to award penalties in our favour..?
Negatives: He’s a fussy cunt who likes to be centre of attention and enjoys the celebrity that comes with sending players off for fuck all. Paddy Crerand reckons he’s one of ‘the worst refs God ever created’.
Personally, I think the recent attention drawn to him is going to have a negative effect. Whilst I imagine most referees would be tempted to award penalties after missing one in the game before, Dowd strikes me as the kind of person who will be even more stubborn in light of the column inches he’s earnt.
Do you think Dowd could play any part in the result tonight?
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He’s a fussy cunt who likes to be centre of attention. spot on. Wazza should be aware of him tonight, lol
i think hell play a significant part, hell be reluctant to give anything uniteds way
especially after the attack on him by FSW
hell want to avoid any more controvesy, and theres nothing more controversial than awarding united a penalty
all refrees are crap.there are very few who are really good.and all are mostly anti united and target rooney.while i admit it is difficult being a refree all that we ask is consistency in decisions and not being influenced by players past or the crowd.Unfortunately that pressure is too much to handle for some refs.
He sent Terry off last season against Everton, so not all bad.
I would have chosen another ref for this match. I don’t expect to get anything from Dowd. Burnley will probably play hard and I’m worried that our players might want to return some of the tackles they get from them, that’s where Dowd might come in to play and punish us. We just have to play well and hopefully we can score in the first half and break Burnley’s spirit down quickly.
After being criticized by Benitez I think he’s more likely to give us nothing than to give us something extra. If we get a penalty from Dowd tonight I wouldn’t be surprised to see Benitez comment on it, I’m not sure if Dowd wants that.
Dowd’s not going to give us a penalty, but unlike the dippers we won’t need it. We’re going to score 5 tonite. Rooney with a brace. Hate to see burnley get hammered because they play football the way it’s meant to be played. But they will be out of their depth, and after a so-so performance in the opening I fully expect a lot of our lads to come out and really prove who the champions are.
Going to be tough night for the new boys…hopefully Dowd will fuck off and keep himself in the background.
Tonights game will not be easy. Scrappy away games aren’t ideal are they. Nerves are already started.
If we play like we did on Sunday, I think we could get a few goals and hopefully Benjy can keep another clean sheet.
It’s not that he leans towards any team. He is ATTROCIOUS! The worst news i have heard all week.
For me all refs over the season make good and bad decisions, all i have been asking for is common sence and consistancy.
There is alot about respect with the campaign and all, but respect has to be earned!
I wish at the end of every game that it was compulsory for the Ref to review his decision and to state his reasoning for certain decisions.
For example – Major Penalty Decision Given or not – If the ref reviwed the held his hand up and said. From the angle i viewed it i didnt think there was significant contact, or there was slight contact and i thought the attacker went to ground to easily. Or i didnt think the defender got any of the ball……. After watching a replay from differnt angles if he was wrong admit that from seeing it at that angle it was a wrong decision!
I would respect that… After all they are human, i dont expect them to get every decision right but one thing for sure is that through out the season they get some correct and some wrong!
Fuck ‘im.
Yep.
Agree with Devilton there.. i dont think he’ll play any part cos in my opinion today’s game will be over in the first half.. our defence will be super confident as well as our offense..no disrespect but given burnleys qulality..i think they’ll wake up to a harsh premiership reality today..c’mon united!!
My View on Manchester United Getting Penalties at Old Trafford.
In any game there is always going to be an average number of Fouls! If you look at the areas of the patch after the game wher eit was played should give you an idea of the statistical chances of a penalty.
An example of my theory!
If a boff worked out that statisticly there is a possibilty of 1 penalty in every 60 runs a player makes into the box dribbleing with the ball.
Manchester United at old trafford generaly dominate their opposition, They have more possesion & spend more time in the oppnents third! Say on average United Made 6 Runs per game into the Opponents box.
Using the statistics that would mean United would get 1 penalty every 10 games!
Before i bore you all to tears what i am trying to say is, if you are in the penalty area attacking more than the other team you stand a higher chance of getting a penalty!
I do admit that there is a certain amount of luck involved and it gets up my goat when everybody winges that we get so many penalties at old trafford.. Maybe if their team attacked and were as good as us at home they would be in the oposing box as much as we are! They then would get more penalties!
Saying they get more decisions than you do, or penalties is a load of bollox!
I know 1 fact for every season and for every club. There will be times when they get decisions which shouldnt have been given. There also will be times when they will not be given decisions when they should have!
@Dakota
Our defence super confident? Im not as confident to be honest.
We are without Rio, Vidic possibly Evans! Add to that Brown just back from Injury a little rusty! I wouldnt say that a back four of Fabio, Oshea Brown evra would admit to being super confident!….. Brown Rio Vidic and Evra now they would be super confident!
Do i think we will win tonight?… Hell yes!
How do i see the game going?
I have been druming over 2 scenarios..
Scenario 1
We score in the first half and its a comfortable win.
Scenarios 2
Burnly Play their FA Cup Final equivilant With High Tempo, Everybody up for the fight, 10 Men behind the ball. We struggle to score and it gets to a twitchy last 15 minutes and but we break them down and score with 10 minutees to go.
Why do the big teams score so many goals in the last 15 – 20 minutes? Because the opponents Energy Levels and concentration drop!.. Some teams start out with everyone playing a high tempo giving 120%… There is only so long they can keep it up!
I have an idea,trevor:Just stick a small camera to those headsets that they wear.Use those on TV to look at the decision and you’ll be able to see from the ref’s angle and judge the decision.
And as for checking if it’s a penalty or not,introduce video replay.
every english ref is a nightmare for me especially this dowd cunt!!
hope we score genuine goals tonight wazza for the hat trick!!!
What do i want to see from tonights game?
I really really would like to see berbatov, Rooney & owen on the score sheet.
I think if rooney can keep the momentom going he will be flying all season and a near dead cert for 20 – 25 goals this season
I think if owen and berbatov can bag their first Prem goal in this or the next game i could then see them scoring between 17 – 25 goals.
For me, Its only a matter of time because they both have looked good! Alot was made about owens miss on Sunday but for me he hadnt been on the pitch that long… Still has to settle a little and build some confidence & also that the keeper made a bloody good save!
anybody got any idea the kind of football bunley play at home??
@theboogeyman
Yeah i like the idea of video replay… I think they would have to come up with some sort of system like they have for Tennis..
Give each manager 1 video Call each Half.. The 4th Offical looks at the video replays somewhere where he canot be influanced.. If he can make a 100% decision then do so, if not agree with the ref!
Some people are against it, Me on the other hand would think it would make it a little more exciting….
Imagine Liverpool at home… its 2-2. 3 minutes to go and the ref turns United down for a penalty… Fergie Jumps up and down and requests a Video Replay…. The anticipation every fan would face would be amazing!….And bloody exciting if you ask me!
@trevor
Bang on mate!! suddenly even i dont feel that confident
what i meant was brown and evens can take heart from the fact that they are playing a recently promoted team and take confidence from that. I mean they will be more at ease than if they were playing gooners or the rentboys. Same goes for the midfield as well as the strike force..
Another way of avoiding referees’ errors is putting one linesman on each side in both halves of the pitch and having one ref behind each goal.
my lineup for tonight
foster
de laet oshea brown evra
valencia carrick anderson
berbatov rooney nani
Wow, that would be kind of crowded. 1 ref and 6 assistants. But the idea of putting assistant behind each goal isn’t so far off. Didn’t they try that in some international tournament? The America Cup or something like that?
Yeah that would work, but would incease costs for the lower league clubs.
You can bet your life if it was introduced in the prem the lower leagues would want it done also.
sorry for the typo error on “evans”..
@Dakota
Yeah i know what your meaning, saying that the birmingham center forward caused them some trouble during the game on sunday. Put himself about well and was good int he ball.
At one point it was squeaky bum time and i nearly dropped my pint! lol
Another off the topic comment!!! hahaha
I am really interested to see if Carrick plays tonight. There was some speculation why he didnt play on Sunday or be on the bench!
Anyone hear anything?
I honestly put it down to him playing for England and against Birmingham fergie thought he wasnt needed so gave him a rest.
@boogey man
mate you mean having six officials officiating a single match!!! thats funny!!
@Dakota
with regards to the typo.. Im supprised i havent been picked up more for mine!!
I sometimes dont pay attension although, if everyone can understand what you ment does it really bloody matter!
Having a mild form of dyslexia doesnt help either, thank god for spell check thats all i can say!!!!
@sam the kenyan red
Its not the first time i have herd taht suggestion, has been mentioned many times before. Remember Andy Gray discussing it after one match saying it would help!
I know its not right, but some bad decisions certainly does add to the atmosphnere and get the pasion flowing!
off topic
does anybody know the situation of douglas costa talks??
cos i read on a brazillian site he will sign and join in january
any latest news???
BELIEVE
@trevor
got it mate!!!
I dont think we need costa, to light weight for the premiership. This refs not to bad he did piss of fsw.
If we’re going to sign Costa in January we should think ahead and hire Arnold Schwarzenegger right now to go over there and help the kid gain some meat and muscle!
I don’t think we’ll sign anyone before the season starts, but I have the feeling that our next signing will be a proven player, not some young promising player. That might happen in January or next summer. But we’ll see, we don’t know yet how players like Nani, Anderson and Tosic will perform this season…
He’s a smug wanker.
I fucking hate Phil Dowd….he’s a cocksucker
The way he speaks to the players makes me want to twat him.
I still remember how ridiculous he was when he sent off Rooney last season.
One thing about ref, they seemed to be the only people in the football world who is allowed to make mistakes but doesn’t have to pay dearly for it, and most of all, TOO PROUD to even admit it in the first place…
Probably the best news that that stupid ref is on duty for the game is we are playing against Burnley, not Chelski or Looserpool…
Referees are like penalty shoot outs.
Score enough goals and you dont ahve to worry about them.
Truthfully if we had Jimmy Tarbuck refereeing tonight and we still should have too much for Burnley.
who cares who the ref is, where playing burnley for fucks sake if we dont get a result against them dont be looking for an excuse already, the ref typical
biggest Negative in my mind from watching united and the refs trying to be in the headlines as much as rnaldo the next day in the media is i think Rooney hates Phil Dowd
Attention whore refs are the worst.
The worst i can remember is that toss pot Jeff WInter & his camp little trot around the park he used to do!
What the Game needs is Someone who actualy has played football at a high level (apologies for the lower league ex players!!) to be involved at FA & Refereeing levels.
Let old pros help the Suits in the FA and show them the light.
It has always amazed me why as a govern body they dont know what it is like at the highest level! The FA Have screwed united over the years absolutly ripped us apart!
Mention the cantona ban, Rio Drugs ban & Evra Bans as an example…
Canona – The FA informed United off the record that a Ban for the rest of the season was fair! United listened to this recomendaton and Baned Cantona for the rest of the season!! What did the FA Do?? Extend the ban so they looked like they were giving a punishment themselves!….. WANKERS!
Rio Drugs Ban – Farce! – Man Chity player missed one a few weeks previous and got a little 15k fine! Rio gets a number of months ban… WANKERS
Evra & Chelsea Groundmen have an ultracation – Evra gets a 6 match ban.. For what.. it was handbags! — WANKERS
I often hear comments about the FA about not showing respect, not showing emotion… If they ever played the game they would understand how much pressure is involved and from time to time things reach boiling point.. I would rather they spent their time sorting out Cheating Divers, Nasty over the top challanges than Making sure someone gets a yellow for taking their shirt off during celebrating a goal.. What the fuck is all that about..
Someone please help me…Who is the FA Protecting by insiting they keep their shirts on?.. Do i care? no
Well thats me for the day! Final rant before leaving work and i feel better already!
Now I will stop off for a few cans on the way home so i can enjoy watching the match!!!
I really don´t get it how a sport with the speed and technicality of Modern Football insists on leaving the refereeing to middle aged men who really have no chance of keeping up with the run of play. It is high time that for crucial decisions the video evidence is used, I mean look how many cameras SKY have around the place, they´ve got the whole pitch covered and more. They should introduce something like in tennis with the Hawkeye where each team has a limited number of appeals per half or per match. This would make the whole game fairer and stop dickheads like Dowd playing his ego-games.
… Oh yeah I forgot to answer the question, if we do lose tonight the chances are it will be because of Crap decisions by a crap ref…
i think it was dowd last season when ronaldo showed stud marks caused by a cynical challenge, dowd was an arrogant prick and decided to show his own upper thigh to challenge ronaldo. Respect works both way. He doesn’t deserve any until he earns it.
Alan Wiley is ref tonight, was that a mistake by Scott or a late change?
Trevor….. do you still fancy Owen scoring tonight …..cos he’s just missed another sitter….!!
fucking hell we get a penalty
and carrick the dopey twat misses