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Premature Rooney Story Reaction

At 10.30 last night RoM posted up news that The Sunday Mirror would be publishing a story in the morning which claimed Wayne Rooney had slept with a prostitute when his wife, Coleen, was pregnant with their son Kai.

At around 11.15 last night, The Mirror had the story up on their website. The News of the World quickly followed suit, with their version of the story, which also claimed to be an exclusive.

It’s now coming up to 3 in the afternoon the following day and we’ve yet to hear anything from the Rooney camp. Some reports suggest that Rooney is likely to travel to Switzerland with the England team, according to FA sources, whilst other reports claim he is likely to receive compassionate leave after a conversation with Fabio Capello today.

With there being no confirmation or denial as yet, we are working with a somewhat hypothetical situation, with people still deciding whether they believe the allegations or not. I have to stress that these are just allegations and anything I write is just an opinion on these allegations, rather than claiming this story is fact.

However, sadly, I’m inclined to believe the allegations are true, mainly because no newspaper in the country could afford to print a story of this magnitude if it wasn’t true. For two papers to have the story simply adds weight to it being true. The ramifications this story has will have on Rooney’s personal and professional life are absolutely enormous and he could therefore put them out of business with a lawsuit. The press print all sorts of rubbish but I don’t believe they could think they would get away with printing this without concrete evidence.

I know this opinion is premature, given that we haven’t heard anything from Rooney about it, but then again, we might not hear anything until he releases the next edition of his autobiography, so this is where we’re up to with it at the moment.

Honestly, I’m absolutely gutted. I loved Rooney for what he does on the pitch and the way he speaks about United. Whilst I was happy when he settled down and had a kid, the way Ferguson likes our young players to do, I’ve never had a big opinion of him off the pitch. He seems like a nice enough lad, doesn’t appear to have let his fame and ability go to his head, but obviously, I don’t know him personally.

So, when people question what difference an allegation like this makes, it is hard to try and justify it. Why should it matter what he does with his personal life?

Because I can’t respect a man who would do this to his wife. There will be plenty of people who will think I’m a soft lad for that, but it’s honestly how I feel. If you’re unsure, how would you feel if your dad had a 4 month fling with a dirty prostitute and only ended it when your mum was 8 months pregnant with you? It’s vile behaviour and the fact that he is a great player, who scores loads of goals and inspires our team to success, doesn’t change that this allegation, if true, makes him a disgusting human being. To cheat on the missus regardless is wrong, but to do it with a prostitute, when she’s carrying your child? Appalling.

Then you have to consider what this means from the point of view of the club, and this can be broken down. Firstly, Manchester United has a reputation to uphold, a reputation which Sir Alex Ferguson has worked very hard to maintain. Just over the summer, the manager was talking about how at United we strive to make not only better footballers, but better human beings.

This stance is something which is widely acknowledged, with Matt Dickinson, The Times Chief Sports Correspondent, talking about it on March 9th 2010: One of his greatest legacies at Old Trafford, something as impressive as filling the trophy cabinet throughout more than two decades,  is Ferguson’s achievement in turning United into not merely a football club, but an educational establishment; in producing not just better footballers, but better people. And Beckham, despite being cast out, is more than happy to add his glowing testimony. Speak to Beckham about his formative years at United and he will talk, as will any of those who have come through the youth ranks, about the lessons repeatedly drummed into them: humility, respect for elders, desire, determination, loyalty, good manners.

This all came to mind the other day when a fascinating observation was offered by a senior England official: he could differentiate clearly between the players of Chelsea and United. One group had a swagger around the camp, a confidence that sometimes seeped into cockiness. Those from the North West, he said, were more humble and respectful.

In a fascinating interview recently, he talked of his paternal pride and his joy when those young players uphold the best values. He smiled as he revealed a text from Cristiano Ronaldo: “I miss you so much”. But he also talked about how Wayne Rooney’s humility was not to be taken for granted in a cossetted age.

“He’s a one-off in terms of the modern type of fragile player we’re getting today, cocooned by their agents, mothers and fathers, psychologists, welfare officers,” Ferguson said. “Rooney’s a cut to the old days.”

This business will be humiliating and painful for our manager, who has been so paternal towards and protective of Rooney. He always defends the lad, he’s always on his side, he can’t speak of him highly enough, and now we’re left with this situation. The manager will be cut up about this and one can only imagine what he is going to do.

This leads to the second point, in that this allegation, if proven true, can only have a detrimental effect on the club. Our next game, as fate would have it, is away to Everton. When Rooney played there the season before last he was visibly riled, kissing his badge and repeatedly holding his finger to his lips as he told them we were number 1. They give him a torrid time, singing about him dying, now about his kid dying, and God knows what else, just because he chose to leave them 6 years ago. He got booked (harshly) that day and Ferguson withdrew him early on, claiming that it was because the referee was listening to the crowd and would probably send him off at some point. Whilst there is truth in that, Ferguson probably didn’t also want to admit that Rooney was just as likely to do something stupid and deserve the sending off.

Can you imagine him at Goodison Park next weekend? They would absolutely crucify him. The songs would be relentless, Rooney has shown he can’t handle their taunting in just an ordinary fixture, and anything could happen. For this reason, I don’t think Ferguson will even put him in the 18 man squad. It’s just not worth it. But it does mean that we will be playing against a team that beat us 3-1 last season without our best player. We’ve already dropped points at Fulham, we really could do without dropping them at Everton, but any game that doesn’t feature Rooney makes the probability of us dropping points higher.

But it’s not just Everton that will give him a hard time, it’s every set of supporters. They will be loving this, just as we would be if it was someone else’s player. The chants of ‘you fat bastard’, which he hears every week, will be kind in comparison to some of the stuff he will hear now. What effect is this going to have on his game? Best case scenario is it inspires him to go out and do well. Worst case scenario is it fucks Rooney’s head up and his form goes out of the window.

The final point in relation to the club is the impact it has on us, the fans. Week after week we will now have to endure song after song slating our player. In the locals, we will have to respond to all the piss taking that will come our way because of what our player has done. As a fan, who has so much pride in the club, we have to hold our hands up and acknowledge that one of our players has behaved like a total scum bag. It’s embarrassing.

The only saving grace for us at the moment is the Pakistan cricket scandal, which seems to be dominating the headlines today. It’s wishful thinking to expect this to be swept under the carpet though. (Hold on to your hats though, with two more high profile England players having injunctions out, there might still be more to come for United fans yet.)

People say that players are entitled to private lives and I completely agree. They’re not robots, they are human beings. But the moment their personal life has an impact on the club, then that is a problem. Whether or not you’re bothered that Rooney did this is by the by at this point, when the issue that connects us all is the concern for the well-being of our football club. Rooney’s behaviour off the field drags our club’s name through the dirt and will almost certainly effect his form on the field, therefore our team’s form on the field.

If how players behaved off the field was irrelevant, then why does our manager work so hard to instil morals and values in our players? Why is it so keen for them to get married and settled down? How our club is viewed is vitally important to the manager, he works hard to protect it and makes sure our players understand that. If the manager didn’t care, we’d hear scandalous stories in the press all the time. It’s no coincidence that it isn’t our captain beating innocent people up in clubs and that our players aren’t sleeping with the mother of team’s mates’ kids. If it is irrelevant what Rooney (or any of our other players) did in his private life, then the manager wouldn’t be so tireless in his efforts to make, as he says, “better human beings.”

Rooney hasn’t just totally disrespected his wife and child here, but our club too, and I honestly believe you’re in denial if you can’t see that.

This doesn’t mean I’m about to turn on him, that I would boo him or do anything I believe will further hinder us on the pitch. He is still our player and we must support him. But I’d be lying if I said I felt the same way about him. As many regular readers of RoM will know, I’ve loved Rooney and always fought his corner, but if this is true, I cannot view him in the same light.

Like I say, this is a premature reaction and prompted by the emotions that the disgust this news brought about, but Rooney is a different lad to me now and I don’t think I could be more disappointed about this if I tried.




 

187 Comments

  1. FloridaManc says:

    I’m gutted over this. He’s really brought great pressure upon himself and the club.

  2. Kings says:

    In total agreement with you on the 9th Paragraph Scott. I don’t condone any form of adultery as it is not how I have been brought up. I consider it to be extremely unacceptable. My mum and Dad were happily married until his passing in 2002. That’s not a pop at Rooney, it’s a general opinion.

  3. Paul Scholes, Really says:

    The effects of this incidence could be greater than any United fan could hope. I sadly could see this reaching a point of him wanting to be transferred out of the country. He will never be driven out of the club by any on in it, but he might have just wrote his death wish in this country; if the allegations are true.

  4. Gary says:

    Who cares? All the press and fans alike acting holier than thou. Who cares if it is true, it’s not like we know the bloke on a personal level.

  5. jellybean says:

    i am so let down by this. if this was any other player (aside from giggs, scholes and nev), i wouldn’t feel as bad. but it’s roo. we all love roo. and sad to say i just dont respect him anymore. with the emphasis the club plays on the behavior of the players and their actions- it’s shocking to see how he could have carried it on for 4 months like that. i’m just really really disappointed. their private lives might not be our business, but i love Utd because not only do we have amazing players, but i thought they were different from the other footballers who do these things on a regular basis.

  6. Costas says:

    The Everton game aside, I don’t see opposition fans as a big problem. In the past we’ve had players like Beckham, Cantona, Keane and Ronaldo deal with abuse and actually become better players as a result. The same thing could happen with Wayne. It’s about time he matured in that respect anyway. He will be 25 in October.

    As for the rest, I agree that I don’t see him in the same light. However, whether the story is true or not, it doesn’t change the way I feel about him as a player. That’s what United fans mainly have to concern ourselves with. I said it earlier, the Terry saga has forced us United fans(me included) to react strongly today out of fear of being called hypocrites. But when you think about it, Rooney surely is not the first player under Fergie’s watch to be unfaithful. He is just the first one caught.

    At the same time, I can’t say that I was a proud United fan when Keane’s comments about the Haaland tackle were revealed(something far worse than the Rooney deal imo). And I’d like to think that Sir Alex wasn’t happy about it either. We dealt with that and we will deal with this. There’s always a chance that Rooney might come out of this a better and more responsible man and hopefully that’s what will happen.

    And when it comes down to it, no local United fan should feel embarassed discussing this with other fans. Because it all depends on how a fan perceives stuff like that. You are not defending him for beating up a dj, you are not defending him for striking a teammate with a golf club, you are not defending him for screwing his mate’s wife and above all, you are not coming out with TEAM ROONEY shirts.

    Chin up.

  7. Red Canuck says:

    I agree with Gary. For anyone to think just because they are United players they are on a moral high ground is ridiculous. These are 20 year old millionaires living it up. Don’t you remember the xmas party? Its just plain ignorant to think that the boys are all good catholic kids.

  8. BenUtd says:

    Good article. However, my view differs slightly on a couple of points.

    Firstly, (although it is a horrible thing to do to his wife) I believe that what Rooney, and all other people for that matter, has done is not any of our business. I understand that in this type of society the lives of the famous are thrown into our faces in a way that we react (often negatively), but I personally don’t want fall into the usual media trap. It’s disappointing what he’s done but it doesn’t affect our lives, so we should let his family deal with it in privacy.

    I also partially disagree with the point about him disrespecting our club. His actions have brought on the by-product of negative attention to United, but not purposely. United players have generally had decent morals and clean histories regarding personal lives. Rooney hasn’t acted against the club in any way.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I am in agreement about being disappointed with him, but it’s not my business nor my place to judge his personal actions off the pitch.

    Rooney has remained loyal to United, so as a United fan I shall remain loyal to him. I just hope the forthcoming media shitstorm doesn’t affect his football.

  9. Premier League Guy says:

    You’ll feel this way about as long as it takes Rooney to score a hat-trick against Liverpool, Manchester City or Chelsea I suspect. Just as Beckham was the most hated man in England after World Cup 98 or when he also cheated on his wife back in 2003. The public are only opinionated on the here and now.

    I fundamentally believe this will blow over sooner rather than later. Coleen will forgive him and we’ll all move on. Posh did it, Toni did too. It’s just the accepted nature of it. The wives are nothing without their multi-million pound husbands. Boys will be boys.

  10. hooligankicker says:

    Well written Scott – I agree with pretty much all of it. All I would say is I am less surprised than some that “our Wayne” could do such a thing. I think SAF will be simply furious and as pragmatic as he is regarding protecting our best players, this will disappoint him to the core. Although we will still cheer when Rooney scores, it will be for the club and not the man.

  11. jellybean says:

    the thing which is different from the abuse the others had to deal with, is the fact that this will obviously have repercussions on his family life, which is bound to affect him. they are human beings after all, and even though he’s a professional who has duties to the team, he’s also a man. we all saw how the scandal affected terry’s form last season. and i hope it doesnt affect him on the pitch…i will support him, he is our number 10. i feel terrible for Colleen. she didnt seem like one of those WAG types. what the hell were you thinking Roo :(

  12. Zabberdast says:

    We’ve always heard Wayne Rooney saying that he wants to finish his career at United, and it was a source of comfort for us that, unlike Ronaldo, we could count on his loyalty.
    Where does that fit in with being unfaithful and disloyal to your wife who is carrying your child? Surely that relationship is more important than any other in life, and if he’s failed that test…?

  13. mo says:

    i really can’t belive rooney has done this, it may be an instant reaction but I don’t think i’ve ever been more ashamed of a united player. I think it will be a long way back for Rooney and the thing the right thing to do is for Sir alex and the club to publicly acknowledge how digusting wayne’s actions were as opposed to sweeping it under he carpet like chelsea and spurs have done. We must show why united is a unique and special club why condoning wayne’s actions but like any good parent we will stick by wayne and pray that he lerns from his mistakes because he has hurt alot of people today not only his family but every manchester united young and old who loved and adored him.

  14. jellybean says:

    i don’t think i’m acting holier than thou. we’ve all done things we wouldnt be too proud of, but this is a guy we did look up to and respect. as i said, if it were rio, or ron while he was playing for us, or someone else, i wouldnt feel bad. but rooney is my favorite player and i’m just disappointed that he could do something like this. i might not know him personally or anything, but i still feel bad :S

  15. Champ says:

    That was a lot of reading

  16. ryder91 says:

    im very fucked off by this obviously, but I wouldn’t expect anything different to be honest. this is what todays football brings around, 20 odd year olds with miliions and millions in the bank, thinking they are invincible. if it is true (even though rooney is outr best player and one of my favourites), I hope he gets everything thats coming to him dropped sponsers etc. They have to realise they are role models to young kids, and represent the biggest and best club in the world, and not go fucking around with dirty hookers.

  17. Moscow is my heaven says:

    What fuels him and makes him successful is not his talent, but confidence and support.

    The pressure will get to his head. Goodison Park will finish him off completely. He is gonna crack, he will be emotional, and we all know how vulnerable he is when he is emotional. He will turn into a completely different player, even worse than the injured Rooney at the WC, not broken in body, but broken in mind and heart. This is a complete and permanent mind-fuck, and it couldn’t have happened to a worse player in terms of emotional stability.

    And if it is that scenario, our star player, the heart of our team, will stop, and when the heart stops, the body follows suit. This, is bad. Very fucking bad.

  18. ruelando says:

    I am a arsenal fan, but i do admire Rooney in the way he plays his football from attacking and helping with the defending. This is something that could happen to anyone especially when you are famous and involved in sports a lot of players face these pressures.

    I do not condone his behaviour, but unseen pressures may have taken a toll on him, all we can wish for is for him to continue playing football to the best of his abilities and become a better man and face up to the errors in his ways by seeking help to correct them.

    Football is his and our life, i love seeing a god game win or lose and good players, so lets hope he will continue doing his best for England and Man U (remember Arsenal is waiting for you)

    So CHEERS to football and the great players

  19. xol says:

    Two Sunday newspapers made a series of allegations concerning the private life of Wayne Rooney.

    If it was his wife making the allegations, or God or a recognised court of justice, I’d be fine with that. The problem I have with it is those newspapers are themselves guilty of invading other’s privacy, harassment, snooping, lies, warmongering, ABU tendencies etc

    I agree with Benutd in that Rooney hasn’t acted against the club, at least knowingly – hence all the ‘stupid’ comments directed his way at the moment.

  20. JD says:

    Costly mistake. Nike, Coca-Cola, EA Sports and Mercedes sponsorship said to be worth about £6million a year.

  21. Kevin says:

    I am surprised by this write up. Who the hell cares what he does in his private life? George Best was a sleaze by all accounts but he is still a United legend. The only reason you feel his behavior off the pitch matters is because you think and feel it reflects the clubs image, which to me is so illogical and ridiculous. No club can be held hostage by the antics of their players when they are not at the club.

    We have dealt with other fans hating United and slagging us for one reason or another for years. I remind you when we won the treble Beckham was harrased and booed everytime he played away from home. He was given death threats, his kids threatened, I saw signs wishing he, his kids, and his wife would get cancer. What I loved about United and United fans is we stuck by our footballers through all types of rough patches.

    Yes if what is said is true it is a vile disgusting thing he did, but he did NOT do it to the fans. He did it to his wife and for some reason you feel you can be some morality police and pass judgment. No one really has a “right” to feel disappointed in his behavior then the ones who put stock in his off the field behavior. Maybe you care, I choose not to because I am more concerned with how I act and I behave. How Rooney behaves means nothing unless he is on the field in a United kit.

    I have never understood this media addiction to bringing every piece of personal life of individuals out in public and defining them by their biggest mistake. How would you be defined if you were in that position? Not everyone is Giggs, Scholes, or VDS. Not everyone is in that position and who knows maybe one of them did the same when they were 25 and a millionaire who felt untouchable. I think it is really easy to pass judgment on someone for their mistake when it effects you in NO WAY regardless of what you think.

    Further and finally if you know and admit to this being “premature reaction” as a “journalist” why would you release or write this until ALL the facts have come out. Maybe Rooney denies these allegations. Beckham was slandered in a similar way by the Sunday Mirror, denied it and the recanted their story.

    For me what is important is he puts on the United kit he works his tail off for our club and helps bringing success to our club. A mistake in his personal life should not become merits for hatred or disapproval. Let the fans slag him, he will have to grow up and deal with it and I bet he will. I am not meaning this to sign harsh, Scott but for me this has nothing to do with football and our club. We all ahve our faults just be thankful yours are not Wayne’s.

  22. Champ says:

    Men>Women

  23. SA Gooner says:

    I’m an Arsenal fan (I hope that’s tolerated by understand if its not) and whilst I’m admittedly delighted that someone who I believe to be a dirty scumbag has finally been exposed, I feel somewhat sad for united fans in terms of how embarrassing this must be and the further, extensive ramifications it might have, especially considering its so out of the blue. I can imagine how pissed off I’d be if, say, Van Persie were involved in something like this.

    Anyway credit for a truly excellent article; you seem like the objective, intelligent football blogger that the internet could use a few more of; the united equivalent of Arseblog ( i don’t know if u consider that a compliment or an insult).

    Anyway, unlucky on the whole “Rooney-Gate” thing…

  24. Scott the Red says:

    Gary – If you’d bothered to read this, I explained why every single one of us should care about this, whether you’re interested in the details of the allegation or not. This has an effect on our football club. If you care about United, it goes without saying you should care about an issue which negatively impacts on our club.

  25. Austin says:

    life is like a coin,you can spend any how you wish, important is how you spend it
    beare this in mind too
    Nothing will ever be attempted if all posible objection most first be overcome

  26. sayyid says:

    Scott your statement is spot on

    Rooney cannot play at Goodison

    I hope Fergie lays into him bcoz what he did is a total disgrace. These footballers have no morality and have abused their position in society. I used to always defend Rooney but now I am ashamed as it had made me look like an idiot for supporting his behaviour in the past.

    All these players including Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Crouch and Cole are a disgrace to society. They think they can get away with anything

  27. ryder91 says:

    @Kevin, its because it does reflect our club. do you really want United to become the new Chelsea rent boys? our club sets standards for how players act inside and outside of football and they should be respected.

  28. Sam Smith says:

    Costas – the main worry I have is that Rooney’s poorest performances have generally come in games against Everton and Liverpool, and it is no coincidence that these are the two clubs whose fans he receives the most abuse from. His record against Liverpool for United in PL games is 2 goals in 11 games, and his record against Everton is 2 goals in 9 games. This compares to an overall record of 92 goals in 191 PL games for United.

    In light of these allegations, it is absolutely imperative that Rooney learns to keep his emotions in check when we play away, because he is going to get some horrendous abuse. If he is unable to keep his emotions in check then quite frankly we have absolutely no chance of winning the league – particularly seeing as Rooney would be playing as a lone striker in a 4-5-1 formation against all of the decent teams in our away matches, so his role is absolutely crucial.

  29. willierednut says:

    I’ve got a question, isn’t Wayne entitled to get the same support, as Cantona, Keane and other players have got from fans? He needs our support more than ever, every cunts gonna take a swipe at him, because they hate United, and are jealous of our success. I’ve done some bad things when i was younger, and yet i still got support from family and friends, shouldn’t we do the same for Wayne? ps Sound like a broken record i don’t condone what he done

  30. Eight08 says:

    Spot on there Scotty!

  31. ctid76 says:

    As much as I despise all things red, and as much as this story makes me smile, (though not obviously, for his family hurt,) it’s not that bad. You lot are all definitely fucked, but not because of this. His performance against Bulgaria was brilliant, and he probably knew then that ths story was about to break. It’s probably been on his head for some time, and it’s probably now a relief that it’s broken.

    So there you are, a blue defending the roo….

  32. Sam Smith says:

    Kevin, Gary and others are completely missing the point. Fair enough if you don’t care what Rooney does in his private life, there’s nothing wrong with that view.

    But the problem is that it WILL affect our football club. Aside from the issue of the club’s reputation – which is extremely important – it is undoubtedly going to affect our on the field performances. Rooney almost certainly cannot play against Everton next week. Now suddenly we have to go to a ground where we were well beaten last season without our best player, with the team already under pressure to not fall any further behind Chelsea so early in the season.

    Who the hell cares about that Kevin?

  33. perkythered says:

    This is a story personal to the Rooney family.
    It is shameful that the tabloids sell the rest of their poison on the basis of such trash – and that people buy these rags in the first place – and I’m very disappointed to see you follow suit.

  34. bruce thomas says:

    What follows is gonna make Gascoigne look like a success story.

  35. Kings says:

    Gary – If these stories are true (for the sake of The Mirror and NOTW it better be), then it could have a massive impact on the club, whether we know him on a personal level or not is beside the point, it is the effect that it could have on Manchester United Football Club. That is what the major concern relates to. As I said before, I do not condone any form of adultery, anyone who would do such a thing is scum in my opinion and I say that in generic terms.

  36. Costas says:

    @willierednut

    Yes he does, despite the fact that he has lost a lot of respect among United fans. Defending what he has done and supporting him through it is 2 completely different things. Can’t believe some are acting as if it’s the biggest disgrace in the club’s history.

  37. Costas says:

    @Sam Smith

    I see what you mean. He doesn’t have a good record against those two and it might be down to what you said. And it’s pointless wishing this or that might happen. I’ll just say that regardless of the scandal, Wayne is at an age that he should be dealing better with this stuff. He has been in the game for 10 years. Goodison is coming too early for him this time, but against Rangers and LIverpool, I think it’s important that he gets our backing and tries to get back to what he does best.

    LOsing Wayne for an extended period of time would screw up what you said. He is out best avenue to play 4-5-1 away from home. And it’s something we need to do there most of the time because a midfielf of 2 gets overrun. At Everton, we either need Berba to produce the goods as a main striker or if we play 4-4-2, we need the 2 CMs to play off their skin.

  38. xol says:

    ctid76 nice one

  39. Kings says:

    ruelando – ‘ but unseen pressures may have taken a toll on him’. With all due respect, that is such a nonsensical statement. He has everything any of us could dream of, but he still wants more – subject to the rumours being true of course. There are millions of people in this country trying to earn a living to feed their family and keep a roof over their heads, but with little joy, Rooney has all this and more. How can you possibly defend the indefensible?

  40. United4eva says:

    We all know, Wayne himself included, that adultery is wrong and if these allegations are true (and they’re not being denied) then I’m sure Wayne doesn’t need anyone to tell him what a big mistake he’s made so lets judge the sin not the sinner as the saying goes.

    I’m not of the school of thought that says we should just airbrush our heroes faults but at the same time I don’t think we should be sitting in judgement upon other people either. Nobody should try and make out that cheating is just something footballer’s do cos its wrong whoever does it. Still, we all make mistakes.

    I just hope Wayne works through his and works through them fast for the sake of his wife, child and club if this stuff is true.

  41. Doghouse says:

    I’m not going to say that I think this story reflects well on Rooney, but first off let’s not go getting crazy. Firstly the whole business that he slept with a prostitute is, for me, less bad than if he’d been having an affair. Yes, he’s still a cheat and a liar to his wife, and even at £1000 a throw it’s sleazy as hell, but it’s not like having a second relationship, he wouldn’t have been having to tell her about how he’d leave his wife or romancing her or anything like that. It’s not dignified but there is a clear difference. Like millions of men he found himself in need of a fuck and a sympathetic ear. He wasn’t playing the field, he wasn’t looking to trade his wife in for a better model.

    It doesn’t change my opinion of Rooney that much frankly, and no that doesn’t mean I didn’t rate him highly before. It’s always been obvious that Rooney is not the perfect gentleman that a lot of United players are. But then I can’t remember a United player since Beckham who has been under this much pressure from the country and media as well. You take a flawed man and you put enough pressure on him and suddenly those flaws become serious weaknesses. And no man is immune to pressure (except Ryan Giggs).

    I hope that things in the Rooney household sort themselves out and that this doesn’t turn into one of those nightmarish stories that runs and runs and fucks with his career. The papers want that, they love to tear a man down once they’ve built him up. It would please the scum press to turn him into the next Gazza.

    As for the people who have been so quick to judge the man as being some sort of a monster, I just find that sort of moralistic attitude appalling. He has not cheated on us. He has not cheated on the team. If he has disappointed Sir Alex then that is between them, if he has disappointed his team mates then it is between them, he owes us nothing but his best on the football field.

    Of course I’d prefer it if all our players were diligent professional family men, but that’s not always the way of great sportsmen. Lot of the greats have their demons and Rooney is no exception.

  42. xol says:

    Let’s just hope that the inevitable dip in form has already taken place – at England’s expense. :-)

  43. willierednut says:

    Doghouse – Great post mate. Rooneys most certainly in the doghouse atm.

  44. AON: Americans Out Now says:

    Great Read Scott..

    I ve totally lost respect to the lad..and this was even evident when I played a game of footy on my Xbox..Dropping Wazza for the first time !!! I feel for the Gaffer..on how betrayed he is going to feel..Thursday at Carrington if he gets in..wud be a nightmare !!

    Hope he is strong enough to withstand this !! But looks like the Lad is a softy..And great read about Ronaldo..I havent seen that quote anywhere !! RESPECT for him. !!

    The White Pele…!!

  45. Mickjk says:

    It is very disappointing. It’s a bad reflection on the club and Wayne will have to make a considerable apology to the club publically. I think a bit of time off to sort out his personal life would be useful to everyone.

  46. sayyid says:

    can ppl stop blaming the papers

    the only person at fault is Rooney who could not control his desires and has no morality

    why does he have a cross on his arm if he doesn’t even follow true Christian principles?

    total disgrace…the truth will always come out…and these footballers are getting their karma one by one

  47. TheRadLegion says:

    If this isn’t true, let’s sue that effin motherf*cker useless tabloid piece of crap and make them close their businesses and send them over to Azkaban.

  48. willierednut says:

    The papers make money out of this, but that’s their bread and butter sadly. Every ones responsible for their own actions, including footballers.

  49. TheRadLegion says:

    @Sayyid:
    There’s a saying “Innocent until proven guilty”. Which is true. Now I’m not trying to defend Rooney, although I kinda have the same feeling that this was true. So until then we can keep blaming the newspaper if we want to.

  50. Tonka Norris says:

    1200 for a leg-over is astounding. The girl is a genius and ought to be a football agent. The last time who got so royally screwed is when we bought Veron. Ah well.

    The fall out? I think if this is the whole story (pun) we’re lucky. I doubt that. There’s more to come (that wasn’t intended). Roo’s guys would have matched the asking price for a basic kiss, pay and tell story. Tiger Woods illustrated the financial hit of a star who couldn’t keep it zipped. So why is it public? Book Deal comes to mind.

    For us? Bye bye Rooney. The Gs would welcome another dividend from the sale of a star, and it isn’t as if they’ll worry about becoming unpopular, it it? The only obstacle to moving him on would be SAF and that becomes moot in the face of this revalation. Make no mistake this is a huge hit for the United Brand.

  51. Always Be Closing says:

    I’m not as bothered as I thought I might’ve been – it’s not a nice thing to hear about, but he’s a United player and I’ll wait and hear it from his mouth.

  52. buytheclub2012 says:

    off topics ! true or fake dosnt matters to me , player s personal life are not my business because i m not his family or manager and friends, player just want perform at the club and win us trophy then u can do anything u want and u just respond to yr wife and your family ,of course also your country s laws.
    hope this fxxking news didnt effect wazza performance at united. and if true as a true united fan i just support him to overcome.

  53. MG says:

    Nothing more to say apart from what Scott has written is the nearest to the truth any one will ever get.

    Sad day even if the story is bullshit – I for one do not like our manager and his club being dragged through the fucking gutter press – and that is all of it – broadsheet to tabloid and back

    It is a fact that they hate us and I for one do not lose sleep over what they say.

    United fans are enough to keep the flame burning – as mentioned before we are already up defending the club from fucking brain dead fans telling us that United are finished.

    This just takes the fucking piss all around.

    Wayne Rooney either better come out and put the fuckers where they belong or make a statement apologizing to his family his manager and his club and of course the fans in order.

    It’s better to be honest and straightforward rather than to duck the issue and give everyone else meaning the non believers enough rope to keep on having a go at United.

    I’m not his agent but if he was taking my counsel I’d tell him to kill the story off by being honest. The rest has to be taken on one by one and would therefore become personal – end of.

    This shirt is a symbol of defiance Wayne – you really don’t own it but earning it means that you never fuck with it – period.

    All those out there that say that it’s a human condition know fuck all. Like GHTT said if you are a family man and a model for all those that look up to you – the shirt itself and your moral compass should be enough to make you the man you are in life.

    Sometimes a vow is a vow – a promise is a promise – a bond is a bond

    Those that deny this under the circumstances of a relationship are fucking deluded – ask yourselves that would you break your bind with Manchester United for anyone else?

    Would you forsake your club for any other club?

    Would you wear another shirt after proudly wearing the United shirt?

    If the answers are no then apply the same logic to your fucking brains and especially your underpants.

    If Wayne Rooney has done this he can bow his head in shame – but he has to move on and prove what he’s made of.

  54. Gary says:

    @Kings

    You’re reading into things way too much. Let’s be honest people cheat on people left right and bloody centre not that it’s a good thing. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she’s played away in the past. How would that affect United? That’s absolute rubbish. Once he steps on the field nothing else enters his mind he’s a true pro. Why do people get so upset about silly stories like this? Haven’t people got their own problems in life to worry about. All i can sare is what goes on the field for United. If he want’s to shag away that’s up to him.

  55. mattbw7 says:

    Ok a few people have mentioned SAF instilling discipline, respect into the players, now dont get me wrong Im not saying it isn’t a laudable endeavor but lets not kid ourselves it isnt anything other than Fergie trying to make sure his players are focused on thier job, if they are married and settled down they are probably not on the razzle every night and if they’re out having affairs then all that running around is hardly conducive to keeping thier mind on the job.

    That said SAF will be raging and Rooney only has to answer to his mrs, the rest of us can fuck off, including me, we pay his wages to play football and thats it. And if anyone mentions how his sponsors signed him up for his family man image, well thats their wish of course but given his past, they must be mugs if that was what they thought they where getting.

    I can say i’m dissapointed but what difference will it make, you can have a moral stance that cheating on his wife is repugnant and I’d agree but again he doesn’t answer to me and you, or put it another way if needed a heart op and your surgeon was the best in the UK and while he was treating you it came out he’d done something similar, would really give a fuck as long you got the best care he could give?

  56. King Eric says:

    Really gutted to be honest and embarrased for United. However some people who are calling for him to be sold etc need to get fucked. Come on Wayne lad get on with it on the pitch.

    The media are having a field day, and rightly so. Silly cunt.

  57. jj says:

    Time some people started looking at the private lives of Mirror and News of the World and Sun editors and journos, print their transgressions on Twitter and the like. How many stories do people know? Got to be some out there… And someone with a bit of money should set them up with a false story and put them out of business with damages fines and compensation. Who has the will and knowhow to do a sting on these ‘people’. They destroy people’s careers, run campaigns against the England team, publish stories just when they know it will hurt the most, and think they are above all of us mortals. The glee those guys must be feeling makes me sick to the core. Rooney is an idiot, no doubt about that, but he’s nowhere near as simply evil as the editors of these papers who just laugh and lap up the profit from destroying people without ever paying the price for their actions. Rooney will now pay, but he’d always have had to pay. He’d have been rumbled sooner or later in private. Or he’d have learnt his lesson and had a good marriage. What gives these papers the right to make a profit out his private life? It’s time we turned on them and put the spotlight on them!

  58. Sam Smith says:

    Gary – I direct you to my previous post at 15.44. It will almost certainly affect United because he is most likely not going to play against Everton. This means that we have lost our best player for a tough away match against a team that beat us fairly comfortably in the same fixture last year. There’s also added pressure on the team given that we cannot really afford to fall any more points behind Chelsea so early in the season.

    So tell me why you don’t think it affects the team?!

  59. RedGem says:

    Just saw Milner on Sky being interviewed about Rooney – I must say I was impressed with the way he handled the questions…providing responses w/o directly answering the questions by focusing on the game ahead. Serves those journalists right..

  60. willierednut says:

    Sam Smith – We don’t know yet if he won’t be involved at Everton, lets wait and see what happens.

  61. cantona7 says:

    Scott, it’s like you are putting up the words for me. This is exactly what i feel.

    I am still amazed by people who say they dont care about Rooney’s personal life, and still come here and comment. If you really dont care, just go!

    If you can sit in the pub and have no emotions at all to the Citeh guy beside you singing a song cursing Rooney, then my first guess is you are a Citeh fan.

  62. Steve_G says:

    all i gotta say is that its better to do a hooker then it is to do your mates bird (lo terry scum)

  63. cantona7 says:

    yup we are lucky she’s a callgirl.. not a teammate’s wife..

  64. Evra's biggest fan says:

    I have only read the article on the daily mirror website once and it was late last night, but i have not seen any conclusive evidence that this is real.

    I mean correct me if i am wrong but she said they used fake names… so no proof there he could of just been friendly with her in a casino and she has made the rest up.

    I take your point about the level of risk from the paper if they are wrong but i still dont see the proof.

    It may be true but until i see something more conclusive i am witholding judgment.

  65. johnterrylegend says:

    love the way so many utd. fans have adopted the alex ferguson ”no doubt about that” …..every time he speaks he uses it and now all the little monkey-see monkey-do’s use the same phrase.
    As for rooney he is not a saint and neither is gerrard,terry ,cole or any of the overpaid premiership players.in a world of high testosterone, players or humans as i like to call them can of course succumb to temptation. you have a chance 12 yards from goal so who do you want wayne rooney or mother theresa ? the newspapers do not act in the best interests of the game but to titilate the lowbrow and salacious appetite of the general population….back rooney he is united through and through and a lot more importatnt than the opinion of a vulgar redtop….one more thing ..are you lot feeling a little guilty about your treatment of jt and ashley cole?????

  66. Mahesh says:

    For a player who claims he wants to spend the rest of his life at United, he surely didn’t think much of the the repercussions of his action on SAF, the club’s fortune’s and its fans. This is quite apart from what it means for him as a person and a family man.

    Having said that, I also agree with a lot of people here that the situation is redeemable. Everything said and done, in our hearts of hearts we know that we exploded over Terry not just because it hurt our moral compasses but also because of the fact that we just hate the man at so many other levels, and due to the action of others (Team Terry). How other fans react to Rooney is not an issue, I think him and other top player have and still can deal with opposition fans. At most Rooney may not play the next few games (especially Everton) but unfortunate as that is, I don’t mind seeing Berba and Owen/Chicharito on the pitch.

    What really does matter is what all this means for Rooney’s relationship with the club and all its components.If all this is true, he needs to show genuine remorse, regret, and a conscious willingness to become a better man. He still won’t ever enjoy the kind of love he got from the fans pre this incident, but it would go a long way in redeeming himself in the eyes of the fans, the players and SAF. If all this is true, he needs to come out as soon as possible and put forward his side of the story, and his remorse as a first step. The more this story floats about, the more time this takes, and if all this turn out true, then Rooney will only have showed he doesn’t give a toss. And it is then that he would have really lost all my respect.

    Assuming everything in the press is true, my commisserations to Mrs. Rooney, and the baby. What they will go through is nothing compared to the hurt we feel.

  67. Zibbie says:

    premature, if that were the case there would be no story.

  68. Zibbie says:

    Fuck, shit, son of a bitch leg humping whore monger. It’s legal in the UK? or England? still … shit….

  69. King Eric says:

    Standing by Wayne as United fans is a given surely. Well having read some of the comments from fans I am not too sure. Johnterry is a cunt (legend) made a good point. Who would you want taking a kick from 12 yards. Mother Teresa or Wayne?

  70. johnterrylegend says:

    No doubt about that…… lol

  71. Wakey says:

    The problem atm is this is simply hearsay. A newspaper is fairly well covered when they print stories like this and we see them slot in the tabloids, some are true others aren’t.

    It isn’t the same situation as say Terry or Cole because of this fact as both of these situatipns had more to them.

    People mention he hasn’t denied it but then at times that can be a sign of innocence. He clearly hasn’t tried to squash the story or pay her off like others. Signs which I always think confirm guilt more than anything

    I also can’t help but think the whole thing seems far fetched, she claims he flaunted it but this is Rooney ffs. The media were making a mountain out of a mole hill of him visiting take aways so someone would have seen something surely. And selling a story on Rooney would have been big money so why has it taken so long to come out.

    All in all the law of this land is innocent until proven guilty and before we condemn him we need more than a pro making a claim with the only evidence being in false named. If they have something stronger they need to show it and then we can condemn him if we wish

  72. Corea says:

    Really don’t know what to say.
    It would have been better if we hadn’t said anything at all. But we all proudly discuss this kind of topics. Yes, Scott had to react to this somehow. What’s done is done. Hope our club won’t be affected by all this.

  73. willierednut says:

    I thought that was a given, to give Wayne our support. It’s not about condoning what he’s supposed to have done, but imo, we the fans have a duty to support wazza, and let SAF deal with him in – house, away from the bloodthirsty media.

  74. parryheid says:

    He will play if fit v Everton he always gets stick there anyway or should I say lighters.Think majority of posters are out of order about a story and remember it Is a story no proof an Allegation have a word with yourselves.

  75. Macheda is GOD says:

    There is still the possibility that it’s not true…But it’s unlikely.

  76. Red Devil 19 says:

    Fucking hell Scott get a grip you emotional bastard. Your taking this to heart mate. I don’t even think coleen is as upset with Wayne as you are. Are you coleens dad????? The way I see it same situation as a mate who has made a terrible mistake and needs support from his lads. He’s still one of us. Rooney didn’t mean to hurt you so much Scott. He’s a young lad shit happens. Scott the red you must be about age 65 sureley your reaction is laughable. You sound like coleens gaurdian

  77. swapnil says:

    @scott the red
    some time ago when the john terry shagging his mate’s girl scandal was going on you were totally against his behaviour and wrote about how he’s let his team down.at that time i was the one who even when being a united fan posted that we shouldn’t care about what a player does in his personal life and should be left alone.i got a lot of stick that time from fellow readers about my view.well even today i feel the same and have no problem supporting rooney.i have to give it to you for accepting that wayne will not be the same player for you anymore and he’s let everyone down.having said that i also know that you will support rooney when he comes out to play every time and so should every united fan as he’s going to have a very hard time in every away game dealing with other fans shouts.which brings me to my final point that is its the fans duty to stand up for their player and protect him from rival fans boos even when he’s wrong.you criticized chelsea fans for doing exactly that.so its very honest of you to share your dissapointment online but you and even some fans who agreed with your view were wrong in saying chelsea fans had no class as other fans will think the same about us when we stand up for wayne. i may come under a lot of fire from other fans for saying this but i had to.

  78. Dr. Mico says:

    Costas at 15:08 and Doghouse at 15:58 are the most sensible posts i have read so far on the Rooney story.

    For my part i would add this: “Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?” This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT SIN AMONG YOU BE THE FIRST TO THROW A STONE AT HER.” And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “Neither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.”

  79. United1990 says:

    It’s kind of a big disappointment for me (if the story is true). For some reason, if it was another player (apart from our legends), I wouldn’t be as much bothered as I am now but Rooney has a huge bond with the club and the fans so I think it’s a shame that something like this can happen and result in a little gap between him and the fans. Some people are more concerned with the player’s personality and manners before his performance on the pitch. I’d hate it if, by any chance, Rooney considered a transfer from United someday and this scandal was one of the reasons.

  80. United1990 says:

    Apart from the whole thing (which I agree with you upon), Scott I don’t define you as a “soft lad” when you think that way as much as I call you a person with conscience. Good for you if that’s how you see it

  81. wazzaisyourbiggestnightmare says:

    Scott, it’s easy to claim the higher moral standing when no one knows you in person, right? What you’ve written here is, by its very nature, turning your back on a Man United player – the same thing that you’ve been banging so much against… Well, as I see things, the reasons may be one or both of: 1) Many times you condemned Tiny Tears (and deservedly so) when he was in the same situation (well, almost the same) and now you don’t know how to react when one of our own players is involved; 2) You probably want to make yourself more lovable in the eyes of your special one who no doubt reads this blog (It’s this one that I put my money on)… Your reaction is premature at its best and the last two days you’ve been throwing shit at WAYNE ROONEY – the same Wayne Rooney that we all love and adore, the same Wayne Rooney who has saved our arses so many times, the same Wayne Rooney who ALWAYS leaves his heart on the pitch for our beloved team… You’ve done the same with Rio before for his dealings OFF the pitch… Players’ fuck-ups in their private lives should be of Fergie’s concern only.. Well, Scott, I’m not defending Rooney because he deserves a punishment but at least you could have waited for club and SAF’s view on the “scandal”… All I’ve got to say to you, Scott, is that Wayne Rooney is a Man United player and you sound like an ABU prick…

    P.S. “He that is without sin amongst you, let him first cast a stone.”

    P.S. This is the first and last time I post on here… It gives me far greater pleasure to be simply a reader… So go on, block me, Scott, if you will…

  82. Redevil forever says:

    wow everyone talking about rooney like he killed someone Terry did ten times worse but still had the support of Chelsea fans my point is we should love this guy for what he does for united on the pitch personnaly I don’t care about his personnal life just love him as a footballer

  83. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    if some can not peice together that a personal life fucks up your football life then you are a thick as fuck

    George Best fucked up the end of his manchester united stay

    its not like it all was overlooked cause he was great on the pitch

    fans respected his football but didnt respect the man

    Sir Matt loved George Best but Id say he was so disappointed in him

    but the man was a fantastic footballer that we remember with fond hearts and is rightfully forever standing outside old trafford for what he did on the pitch but off the pitch it was him walking out or him getting fucked out in the end- we all remember maradonna as one of if not the greatest footballers, eric may have been right in what he did but he was rightly suspended by manchester united for attacking a fan in front of cameras for the world to see(althou he did literally kicked racism out of football )

    so for saying bad about george best like its ok because id name my child after him is silly, love ——- the player – cant stand what the man did. put an above player in the blanks and tell me im wrong .

  84. Kevin says:

    A mans character is not based on his mistakes, it is how he responds to those mistakes. One poor decision or even multiple poor decisions does not reflect poorly on the club at all. United and Sir Alex can not be blamed for the bad behavior or poor moral decisions of one player. If this was something that was more prevalent across the team, I would agree this negatively impact our club. But don’t hold the entire club hostage because some illogical fans will use this to attack our club. What else is new? They will always find reasons, Rooney cheating or not, to find ways to insult our club. They have for a century, why would this end?

    The major problem I have with this is we put too much stock in footballers and even more celebrities. For some reason as a culture we have become obsessed with their daily lives and their mistakes. Why do we care? Are we so bored with our own lives we have to look at the shortcomings of people who are on tv? The worse thing for me is you expect something out of him that you wouldn’t ask of yourself…to be perfect. The only thing he is required to do for United is to play football well, nothing more nothing less. As long as he does that well, what he does in his personal life should be his and those he wishes to inform business, it certainly is not ours or the Sunday Mirror or NOTW.

    If this does, and I am not convinced it does, negatively impact our club it is a minor issue because this is not a consistent problem as it is for Chelsea and Liverpool. So what real concern is it for us? And what is the knock on United, we pay people who have questionable moral character? Well HELLO, have you seen our owners? Did you see Keano? Or Ronaldo? Or even Anderson and his late night car accident? Rio’s missed drug test? I mean we have and will continue to work with people with questionable moral character because in every walk of life you have to. The major difference is the NOTW and Sunday Mirror won’t sell a million copies telling stories of our questionable behavior. If you ask me this is a bunch of nothing that we shouldn’t even be privy to in the first case. It doesn’t change or negatively impact our club at all except distract him from playing football. I would hope GOOD United fans will support him on the pitch and remember he is HUMAN and all humans make mistakes, big and small alike.

  85. willierednut says:

    I don’t buy the comparisons with Tiger Woods, his image was built as a clean cut family man. Waynes always had that edge to him and i don’t see the endorsement companies running for cover.

  86. SAM MUFC says:

    Hold on to your seats folks, cause we’re in for a shitstorm

  87. SmartAlex says:

    Prostitute: put (oneself or one’s talents) to an unworthy or corrupt use or purpose for the sake of personal or financial gain.

    Credible: able to be believed.

    Guilt by association: guilt ascribed to someone not because of any evidence but because of their association with an offender.

    Tabloidization: a change in emphasis from the factual to the sensational.

    Manipulate: • control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously : the masses were deceived and manipulated by a tiny group.
    • alter or present so as to mislead.

    Feeding Frenzy: an aggressive and competitive group-attack on prey by a number of sharks or piranhas.

    Fickle: changing frequently, esp. as regards one’s loyalties, interests, or affection.

    Judgemental: having or displaying an excessively critical point of view.

    I am unable to cast the first stone.

  88. buytheclub2012 says:

    love u red devil 19 , we all dont know a man how to live with his own family , we are not family of wazza ,how we know coleen upset? or coleen love wazza very much and forgive him easier?it all none of my business , did wazza kill a man? he raped a girl? are all we just do good thing? we ever made any mistake ? also love willierednut very much the fans who have a duty to support wazza, im a fan so come on wazza ,solve the problem and bring me back the trophies .

  89. buytheclub2012 says:

    love u red devil 19 , we are not family of wazza ,how we know coleen upset? or coleen love wazza very much and forgive him easier?it all none of my business , did wazza kill a man? he raped a girl? are all we just do good thing? we ever made any mistake ? also love willierednut very much the fans who have a duty to support wazza, im a fan so come on wazza ,solve the problem and bring me back the trophies .

  90. united.george says:

    …and just when I was thinking that it was going to be a quiet week while we wait for United to play again.

    Rooney will need to play his best against Switzerland to take some heat off, but it will also add some heat on Berbatov to play big for us too while all the drama is taking place.

    On another note, how come Evra did not get much grief from his encounter with another woman in a hotel?

  91. Kings says:

    King Eric – Please stop making out that you are a martar, saying people’s comments smack that of betrayel towards Rooney and United. Most of the comments made by people on here are echoing Scott’s comments, so you must be having a pop at him too? I will continue to support Wazza while he is wearing a United shirt as I have with other players before him. When Rio was getting stick from a lot of United fans around me in 2005, surrounding his contract issues, I ignored them and supported him. My points made were generic in response to some people who think he’s had tough time of it, which is such a short sighted comment, baring in mind that he is blessed in so many ways imaginable. We can’t escape the fact that this could have an impact on United, keeping in mind who we have to play next. United is the priority and we can’t have our chances of success this season affected due to issues of the field.

  92. Dave Mack says:

    Been thinking about this on and off throughout the day and finally come down against the stance that Scott is taking. Of course he’s entitled to it, not just because it’s his blog but becuse it’s a very credible position to take. It’s also consistent with the position he’s taken the morality of Terry etc.

    But I side with those that say that Wazza needs our support in what is clearly a rough time for him, whether it’s of his own making or not. What if Colleen knew and decided to ignore it and /or forgives him? Are we to sit in judgement above that?

    I guess I’m saying, I don’t need every United player to live their lives the way that I chose to live mine. It’s not our place to judge their morality I judge them purely on how prepared they are to play for the team, their performance on the field and the loyalty they show our club.

    While Wazza measures up in all of these I will continue to defend him.

  93. perkythered says:

    @smartalex: yes, i agree.
    he who is without sin cast the first stone:
    the rest of you please get off your moralistic high horse and put this moralistic spasm to one side – you’ll be SO embarrassed when you read back on this.

  94. Dave Mack says:

    Great posts from Costas, Doghouse, Kevin. imo.

    The reference to Besty is a good one. Few know how we would have dealt with the pressures in his life being one of the first real celebrity footballers. All where in awe of his talent but those that knew George loved him as a person as well, despite his flaws.

    Most important …. no one doubts that he’s a United legend and despite this flaw ..Rooney will be one as well. Let’s get behind him when he needs us most both for him and for the love of the club.

  95. CJ7 says:

    Scott – great opinion piece as always. Agree with you 100%. Taking a pure football view of this I think Fergie will get his arms around Rooney and will get the best out of him once he gets his head together.

  96. Red Devil 19 says:

    @buytheclub2012
    love u to

    @kevin
    extremely well said mate

  97. RedScot says:

    This for me says it all roughly 538 lol posts on Wayne’s private life 5 on Corry Evan’s video goal for Ireland.
    Judgemental or what.
    Some people really need to get a greasy Milk bottle and relax and chill.lmao
    He needs our support more than ever now.End off simples and all that diddly do.

  98. Faddy is a legend says:

    @RedScot]

    Gods sake, I’d completely forgotten about Corry Evans’ wonder goal!

  99. Fze123 says:

    Mostly everyone on here said they’ll support Wayne, but won’t respect him the way they used to – I don’t think I have seen anyone say they won’t support him. All Utd fans will support him, we supported Becks and Ron after both World Cups and will support Wayne too, regardless of the different matters that turned the country against them – in Wayne’s case he’s the unfaithful husband. Just because someone slags Rooney in one of their posts, this doesn’t imply they won’t support him. I agree with Scott completely. What Wayne did was shameful, it must be horrible to be Coleen right now. We can judge and have the right to judge him, why are some appalled by that? He’s one of our own and as a player he represents the club. I am disappointed in him, he has gone down in my books and I am not sure I’ll respect him like before, but as long as he wears our shirt I’ll be behind him.

  100. RedScot says:

    @Hay Jimmy. I was joking in a way regards the comments.I dont think it was quite a wonder goal but he did show great strength to bundle the ball over his first for Ireland full team.
    I just did not post my comment I have been exile from posting, self imposed! lmao

  101. bigphil2003 says:

    @redscot – that’s Northern Ireland mate ;-)

  102. Faddy is a legend says:

    @RedScot

    Good to hear yer back anyway. Cannae believe that Northern Ireland won and Scotland got held by fucking Lithuania. Fletch gets his 50th cap on Tuesday

  103. RedScot says:

    Evening Phil good to see you mate. Wow we are still alive then. lol after the mauling we took. lol
    Dont mention the Glazer. I aint read your comment on Wayne , Phil what do you feel you are normally rational and balanced.

  104. RedScot says:

    @Cheers Big Man(Jimmy) yes i am back so on to Lichtenstien on Tuesday are you going, I will listen on Sportsound on the BBC. Possibly give up dates on Darrens performance, but I dont want to be annoying. lol

  105. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Well. what can anyone say. We’ve all given Terry and Gerrard a black eye over their fucking disgracefull behaviour and now we face the real possibility of turning our back on one of our own. None of us on here have the right to defend Rooney on this issue as there was absolutely no one defending the actions of the other two despotts. I feel sick as Rooney is the driving force behind alot of what United do, hes so much more than just scoring goals. But it has to be said that Rooney has shown himself to be a complete CUNT. I started to worry when smoking and pissing in the street surfaced and it seemed that he was getting away with shit left and right but this is different. He has betrayed the people he is closest to. Hes betrayed his missus, hes betrayed his child, hes betrayed his sponsors (just like Tiger Woods) who pay not only for his face on the screen but also his image. Hes betrayed Sir Alex who insists on a good way of life and proffessionalism, he has betrayed Manchester United and us the supporters. Of course hes not the only one to have cheated on his missus, and to the morally weak everyone is doing it and its just part of life but we are not paying for Wayne Rooney the Evertonian we are paying for Wayne Rooney the footballer, Wayne Rooney the idol, Wayne Rooney the Manchester United player. Ive only just heard of this and so havent really finalised my opinion as yet (i live in a bubble!!) but I trust the actions that Sir Alex will take on this matter whether its a suspension or dismissal from the club.
    The great Sir Matt would say “This is not Manchester United”.

  106. Faddy is a legend says:

    @RedScot

    Yeah am going, got my fingers crossed for a big win! I figure that we can afford to drop points against Lithuania cos you can guarantee that we’ll get six points against Spain! Hope faddy is fit enough to start.

  107. RedScot says:

    @Goat. Nobody has wanted this too happen.It is a disgrace to his family and to United.
    You dont live in a bubble, you live in Sweden one of the most sexually liberated countries in the world.
    I just think Chelsea closed ranks over Terry and Cole, why should we hang him out to dry!
    Completely crazy to do this.
    He will put a smile on all our faces soon enough.
    Just wait for the England game in Switzerland, you will see the excess hate spat out at him, and for me I will hate that.
    Its a private matter and should remain so between Coleen and him and the rest of his family.
    Lets not shoot ourself in the foot over this.

  108. willierednut says:

    Hardly see Rooney leaving the club, for something that happened in his private life, not unless he’s actually the reincarnation of Fred West.

  109. RedScot says:

    @Jimmy lol yeah your right mate the 6 points against Spain are deffo in the bag. No fear.
    I sorta think you should be playing from the start on Tuesday.
    And drop that big waste of space Davie Weir or at least grease down his zimmer frame.
    Plus drop that lad Scott erm whats his name, plays for the Tattie Munchers. lol
    Brooon I think it is.

  110. Faddy is a legend says:

    @RedScot

    I could do a job for us in the centre of the park alongside Fletch! The only problen with big Davie is that when he comes up for corners he needs to get his oxygen before he can get back to the defence. Browns no that bad, look at our other options, Hartley and Mculloch! Christ sake I’m actually better than those two.

  111. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    @Red Scot
    Thanks for reminding me of my sexual liberation here in sweden, lol. When i said i live in a bubble i meant i dont listen to the news, and i do not read news papers anymore as i find that i dont like what happens in the world and i really hate the presses/general populus’ silly opinions and conclusions. Thats my bubble, a big fat i dont care.
    Apart from United that is, thats my life because whatever happens United are there to pick me up or throw me down.
    I know no one wanted this to happen and im not trying to judge rooney. I know that since my wife got pregnant and had my child i lost alot of the intimacy with my wife and became somewhat distant. So i can see the attraction of cheating even though i didn’t, doesn’t mean the urge wasn’t there. I don’t want to shoot ourselves in the foot either, i love rooney he emboddies everything i like in a player. I actually like the rebelious attitude, I like the sneaky pint and the odd cigarette but in a way thats why i dont fit in and i so much want him to. Im feeling a bit sick of it all and have longed for the season to start again i suppose im just in a little shock that after a good start and the resumption of my life for another season, someone punches me in the gut.
    As i said i trust Sir Alex in his decission and know he will do the best by us. As for Rooney head down mate, sod England this week and have a serious rethink pal.

  112. RedScot says:

    @Jimmy and Goat. Cheers boys great Reds. Its not life and death its just Fandom.
    Least we got each other laughing and having a bit fun.
    As normal in these situations I just try to lighten it up and keep the faith(Apart from one aspect of United).
    Believe.
    Being asked to post on Political economy of football, must go. Believe what ever you want. lol

  113. bigphil2003 says:

    Alright redscot, good to see you too. Honestly im quite gutted about the whole thing as i was always a big fan of Wayne and loved the fact that United made a point of having respectable players on and off the pitch. I didnt think he’d be up to this and think hes a twat for what hes done (as i would anyone who did the same). Having said that i’ll always support him when he plays for us and a lot of people on here are going over the top, as is the trend nowadays. I hope whatever happens he can sort out his personal life and get back to his form for us as he seemed to be doing in his last game. Whats your view on it?

  114. RedGem says:

    Okay…I was confused but now I get it… Scott the Red and RedScot are two different people! :)

  115. Dela says:

    Sorry but this is none of any of yours or my business. The guy cheated on his wife (if true). The only people this concerns are his wife, his kid and himself. So many people talking with so much disgust you’d swear the sun shined out of their arse. Try the lifestyle these young professionals have before you are so sure that you wouldn’t do a “tiger woods” on it and until then, stop taking part in the collective spying on people’s private lives which is called the “British press”. This is no John Terry crap either, he didn’t get up on one of his team mate’s girls, he got up on a hooker and paid for it.

  116. Costas says:

    @RedGem

    Completely different, lol. Same thing happened to me at first.

  117. RedGem says:

    @ Costas yes, if not for their completely opposing views on this matter, I probably wouldn’t have noticed.. :)

  118. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    @Dela.
    Im not attacking Rooney but would like for my own interest to understand where your coming from. When Terry fucked Bridges bird, where do your sypathies lie. Do you have sympathies for Bridges missus, Bridge or his own wife. For me in the Terry case I had no sympathy with Terry, none for Bridge and none for Bridges bird, my sympathy was with Terrys wife. In this case I have sympathy for Coleen and his child. So in my mind who the shagee was is incidental.
    Im not joining the band wagon in condeming Rooney but Im not going to pretend that he has let everyone close to him down.

  119. willierednut says:

    GoatinaUnitedShirt – When Terry was getting stick from us and other fans, did you not think, that something like this might happen at United one day? It’s amazing to me that a lot of our fans were naive to think that we were immune from this sort of thing. Yes, it reflects badly on the club, but Waynes not the first to fuck up and he’ll probably not be the last.

  120. Dela says:

    @GoatinaUnitedShirt, Let’s say it wasn’t Wayne. Let’s say it was Joe Smith in Manchester who just happened to get up on a hooker a few times and then the hooker came out and spread the news about it. Will you cast judgment on that person? Probably. Will you feel sympathy for his wife? Probably. But at the end of the day you would accept that it’s between his wife and him and none of your business in the first place.

    What you wouldn’t do for sure is write up 4 blogs about it, including your own personal reaction to it from your own mental balcony or visit that blog and then write up your own feelings about it. But when it’s Wayne Rooney, it’s perfectly fine apparently to turn a United blog into E! or TMZ. I’m sorry for the troubles of Rooney’s family, but I’m not sure it’ll be helped by the collective 2 cents of every United blog and every fan who wants to cast judgment on it.

    He’s just a man. He did this before when he was 17 in case you don’t remember? That doesn’t excuse it from his wife’s eyes but whatever happens between them is between them. I just don’t think they are going to be helped by the reaction of the public which unfortunately they will have to endure.

  121. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    @Dela
    I respect your opinions mate and like you said if it was Joe Smith who had done it it wouldnt really have much a bearing on me/us. And of course there wouldn’t be endless blogs about it. Im also not sure i subscribe to the belief that celebraties are the property of the general public either, so i respect where your coming from. I just wished it never happened,

    @willierednut
    Did i ever think it would happen to us, i suppose i did think that. I suppose i do feel that United and their players are holier than thou. A bit naive of me i guess but here we are and aren’t we going to get stick from all the other fans coming out on this blog. Oh well chin upp and best fighting face on this is going to get dirty.

  122. RedScot says:

    @Big Phil Cheers as you know i have no Martial attatchment. I dont really care about Wayne getting his leg over.I do think and care for his legal partner.I feel for lassie. But I think thats called life.THIS Unless you are into keys in the bowl sorta stuff!
    I know its changed days( from the era of the older icons) and a few Tequlia sunrises you can shag anyone.
    My view he is a Manchester United player at home watching, or at Old Trafford he gets my support where ever.
    We have enough problems without inflicting more upon ourselves.
    I just dont feel we should feel so righteous and bring our talisman down.
    Mind in the current climate. We could get mibbes 50 k for him, pay a bit of the interest payments for next financial year. Sorted.
    @ Costas and Red GEM you are confusing me lol. Not I pay attention rather than keep typing tend to read more. Its my policy. lmao
    Changed days and times. The days of go out and play are sadly passed. Now its go out and fucking win.
    Money eh!.
    Its not your Club anymore, I personnaly blame partially Murdoch.

    I hope you get my rational. lol
    Off to the Boozer with my mates, Tattie Munchers Sellik supporters Yawn

  123. David says:

    I’ve come on here to take the piss in the past, but I have to say that was a really well written piece mate. Agree with you entirely

  124. willierednut says:

    I thought that boozer would have been drunk dry by now lol.

  125. Adam Roberts says:

    Scott, can you write an article on what reaction you would anticipate from Fergie. It could be one of his bigger managerial decisions.

  126. jimmybob says:

    all these people slagging rooney off, have you ever cheated on your bird/wife?

    fuck me even our future king was at it for years and so was princess diana (rip) are we going to the press hound them to? even beckham and robson have been done for cheating on their missus and we all love them

    The press are now trying to paint this prostitue as some paragon of virtue it is pathetic

    rooney doesn;t need to be hiden away from the everton fans and their daft chants

    chanting can’t hurt anyone, best way to shut them up is to play him and let him score a few goals

    go on wayne boy some of us are still with you

    let he who is without sin cast the first stone as it says in the good book!

  127. cinnamon says:

    I’m a Liverpool fan who has stumbled across this blog randomly over a google link but have found this article and subsequent comments a good debate. It’s important firstly to understand that football is a game of opinions and to that end, all views expressed are valid.

    What’s saddening really is that high profile sports in general are so locked into the fabric of the public perceptions of what we deem to be the so-called role model. Look at Tiger Woods and so on and you’ll see that it isn’t just football.

    The fact is that right now, any one of these sportsmen and women could be guilty of any number of deplorable acts and just haven’t been exposed yet. That’s the awful truth.

    We attach are loyalties to our clubs and yes, we as arch-enemies (Liverpool/Utd) will usually use any excuse to have a pop but that’s just how it goes. If you look historically at the likes of Busby and Shankly (who were close friends and of the same ilk) you’ll see that honest breed set their respective legacy on each club and traditions that have seen both group of vans support their team with venomous pride and unswerving loyalty.

    It’s dismaying to think that actions of individuals impact the reputation of their teams but as a fan, I’d advise you to stay together. It’s wasn’t easy for Liverpool to get rid of the Spice Boys tag of the 90′s but now we’ve put that image to bed.. (god knows our current team could do with spicing up on the pitch though..)

    I agree with Scott as a personal opinion. I think as a fan, he is upset that all the hardwork and foundations laid by the history of the club and efforts of Fergie is undermined. You just cannot ignore the impact of the media on society and it’s kids at school that will pick up the habits of these ‘stars’. That responsibility is something that cannot be just placed lightly.

    This should teach fans a lesson in terms of not looking at other teams players as we all have potential love-rats, addicts and general trash underneath the amazing footballing talents.

    Let’s hope football doesn’t suffer anymore scandals. It’s getting annoying now for all of us.

  128. kel says:

    Scott, as we are those that really loves United. I said the same thing about Rooney at other United fan sites. If this matter is real, i had another feeling towards Rooney. I view discipline as a high priorities as our club is well respected and well recognize.

    After what Rooney did makes our faith and trust went down a notch and to the rock bottom.
    I will keep supporting till i know the truth but if this is true, isn’t he a same person as Terry of Chelsea?
    I had another thoughts of Rooney if this is true.

    Slightly disappointed. Same as all of you.

  129. TheRadLegion says:

    @Jimmybob:
    I don’t give a damn care if you or your future king had a fling. But don’t put names on the table to justify what he did. Cheating on your family is wrong regardless your religion/belief. He betrayed the trust his family, his club and his fans had given him FOR a mere few minutes of pleasure.

    If you believe that a chant can’t hurt anyone, perhaps you should ask why we lost Cantona for a long time. You think that some of Everton players wouldn’t take this chance to wind him up? I would if I were them. Rooney should not be played against Everton. It’s not gonna do him nor the club any good.

    It is not that people here is not supporting Wayne. I for one always support him as a person, wishing him well so that he could be granted the strength to weather the storm and hope things would get better soon for the family. But I don’t condone for whatever he has done. He still needs to face the consequences.

  130. bobkoh says:

    Even if all the allegation were true, I’ll still hate John Terry many time more. It was a good friend’s ex.
    At least Rooney paid for his wrong doings in cash, though now he has to pay in terms of his reputation.

  131. Debrabs says:

    Isn’t/wasn’t that cunt Piers Morgan something to do with the mirror, his hatred for united is enough to cast doubt on this story alone.. Whether it’s true or not, that horrible prick will be reveling in this.

  132. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    I’m with Scott on this one. I have been a stauch fan of Rooney for many years now and this story puts a whole different light on things. I can’t get the same kind of respect for him ever again. I will still get that buzz when he scores a goal in the Red of United, obviously because he still loves this club too much for me to not like him in that regard. But still I will never be able to see him like I was doing a few days ago, and I regret this issue for that reason.

    I am guessing this should rules him out of future United captaincy. Peopl will call me out for saying this. But this same bunch of ROM guys said that Terry should be sacked of Chelsea captaincy (He WAS stripped of England captaincy) for the things he did. Although what Rooney did is not as bad as doing your best mate’s wife, it is as bad from any perspective especially when your wife is carrying your child. So if we think Chelsea fans are idiots for saying Terry should remain captain, then we would become hypocrites if we say Rooney can remain Captain if these allegations are proved to be true. However, I do have to say I always thought Fletcher was our future captain, but that is a whole another thing.

    Of course, I am just a stupid die-hard Manchester United supported. The weight of the pressure will fall on THE man named Sir Alex Ferguson. I guess he will be highly disappointed if these allegations are true (which I think they are for the same reasons Scott posted). But if there is one person I trust to get this club through the shitstorm that will occur in the next few weeks (like he has done for the past 25 years), it is him. So let’s wait and see what happens.

  133. Costas says:

    @Debrabs

    No doubt about it. The next Larry King should post his latest burial job any moment now. However, truth be told, he did diagnose that Rooney had attitude issues that could come back to haunt him for a while now. We just shrugged it off as MOrgan talking out of his ass, something he is famous for.

  134. forward6666 says:

    wow. i have no words to say. im really gutted that this kind of article was published but our own blogger. i tottaly agree with Kevin and Gary. i dont get all these people who are saying that this is disgrace and everything. you are all grown ass men and u should know men. men will always be men. im sure most of you if not all cheated on your wifes or girlfriends. so stop the bullshit everyone.
    i do agree that it will negatively affect our club image but tough deal we will get over it. soon rather than later. but for scott to say that he disrespected the club and all the fans is just plain stupid. he gives everything for the club, hes always been like that and thats the reason we all love him so much. this has nothing to do with us the fans, the only person wayne would have to answer to is his wife. FULL STOP.
    people who saying he might leave the club or country because of this are just plain stupid. dont know rooney at all u bastard (people calling ur selves united fans). come on get real people. this is 21st century we living in.
    obviously i wouldnt be saying this if i was his wife but im not his wife, thats the fukcing point. Rooney always gives his all for the club, he loves the and always said he will stay here for life. and this kind of issue will never change that. im just very very dissapointed in scott and all these so called united fans who are having a go at Rooney.
    These are sort of times when he needs all united fans get behind him and support him. what keving said is so true. its so easy to judge people on their mistake especially if it has nothing to do with you personally. grow up people.
    love united. love rooney.

  135. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @forward

    Are you serious? Get behind him. From a football perspective, I am behind him 1000% because I know he loves this club and on the field will give no less than 110% for Manchester United. But seriously, if the oppositiion fans boo him, I am not going to support him for doing someone else WHILE his wife was pregnant. You are saying men will be men, but I am sure you have had a good hard look at Scholes, Giggs etc. Expecting everybody to be great like that is out of the question. But when somebody does something like this, I am not going to support him from a non-footballing perspective. That is for sure.

    I am not sure whether you were one of them, but most people including me ranted about how low Terry’s moral compass is for what he did. Again what Rooney did is not as bad from a objective view, but it is equally bad – if not worse considering Coleen was pregnant with his child – in a moral view. So supporting him if he suffers any backlash would make us look like Chelsea fans, and worse, hypocrites for all the talk we gave to the Chelsea fans for the Terry affair. I am NOT going to do that. If he is ripped apart to bits by opposition fans and newspapers alike, he would’ve deserved it completely. Again, all of this applies if these allegations are true.

    Again, I am not saying Rooney was a role-model or something and that I feel let-down by what he has done, because I know this is common in the modern days with all the money and booze. What is critical is that this will affect the club’s image of producing fine footballing players who can actually do something proper with their lives. And of the image Sir Alex has created of Rooney as being a cut to the old days like Giggs and Scholes. And most importantly, as Scott has highlighted a bazillion times, is this will affect our performances to a certain extent. It will affect the dressing room morale and everything about the team. And I hope that Sir Alex is able to manage all of that. That is what I am most worried about.

  136. forward6666 says:

    i’ve never condemned Terry for he have done. although to sleep with mates ex wife is little bit different to this situation. but i always thought to myself when the whole of england was having a go at Terry that that was surely over the top. its not like he slept with his mates girl when they were together. they were seperated for gods sake. but im not gonna dwell into that now.
    all im saying is we need to support rooney in times like this and not condemn him.
    and for some reason im very very sure, that this will make rooney a better person and he will do his talking on the pitch. he will get better because of all this bullshit. mark my words.
    rooney to beat his last seasons record this season.

  137. bigphil2003 says:

    forward6666 – “im sure most of you if not all cheated on your wifes or girlfriends.”

    Don’t judge us all by your own shitty standards.

  138. pvtejones says:

    yes he has been a dumb arse! majorly. He is 24 just. Tell me that most of us don’t have regrets for things we have done when young. Fck cant really believe that we (as united supporters) are going to dis him so verhemently! Shit we arent some evangical group, we are united supporters for Gods sake (cuse pun) Yes he made a BIG mistake but I’m sorry I am not going to accept that while we all make mistakes he cant? that has nothing to do with money nor fame. Rooney is a massive talent and although I don’t know his character I will support him if, for no other reason than his age. SHIT the rest of us would be out of the team in a fortnight were we ever to have the opportunity! Dont condone what he has done but jeez I kinda get it given who he is. Give him a break cause I very much doubt the rest of the dissers here would do any different at 24. Perspective please and so what if he gets a hard time from opposition. He deserves it without us disowning him as well. Hypocritical!

  139. King Eric says:

    I have been married 9 years and I most certainly have NOT cheated on my wife.

    Kings – Alright pal. What are you on about I am a martyr? I was referring to those who said sell him.

  140. King Eric says:

    All those saying they won’t respect him and see him the in the same light. Well lets see how you feel when he bangs in a winner against the dippers or City. The lad HAS done wrong but some of the reactions are frankly ludicrous.

    Kings – Meant to say I don’t have to agree with Scott’s opinion all the time fella.

  141. Kaddy says:

    Bad things happen. I am sure Roo loves his wife and this was just a bad mistake. All human beings do have weaknesses and Roo is not exceptional. It’s a private matter and I hope Coleen would forgive him and move on. We all learn from mistakes. Let’s play Berba and Owen/Chicharito away to Everton.
    Let’s continue to support him and he will come back strongly, no doubt about that.

  142. jimmybob says:

    forward6666 – “im sure most of you if not all cheated on your wifes or girlfriends.”

    Don’t judge us all by your own shitty standards.

    you have never chated on a bird? ever? course you haven’t, god we have some saints in our fan base (either that or your too ugly to pull)

    If you believe that a chant can’t hurt anyone, perhaps you should ask why we lost Cantona for a long time. You think that some of Everton players wouldn’t take this chance to wind him up? I would if I were them. Rooney should not be played against Everton. It’s not gonna do him nor the club any good

    he is our best striker he has to play, we can;t hide him from every away game where hell take some stick. We didnly hide ronaldo beckham or eric did we when they got hammer from away fans.

    It’s no big deal, time to face the music that’s what man untd players are all about.

  143. PHZ says:

    Rooney-gate? Don’t overreact. Football players are not philosophers, priests etc, etc. They just can kick the ball almost perfectly. It’s well paid job, but it doesn’t make them better men or moral example for anyone.
    Am I shocked or something? No, I’ve never believed that our players are better men than others’ team players (except Scholesy and Giggsy). I was often proud, because they behave better, thanks for sir Alex, but inside I knew the are not so ideal.
    Am I sad? Yes, ‘cos Scott is right – this for sure will affect the Club.
    But honestly – I prefer this story than Keano’s book. I was ashamed that United player was seeking brutal revenge, and intentionaly broke someone’s leg.
    But sex with a whore? Hundreds thousends, or even milions of men are doing it in UK. It’s bad, I hate this news, but it’s not end of the world.

  144. jimmybob says:

    will affect the dressing room morale and everything about the team. And I hope that Sir Alex is able to manage all of that. That is what I am most worried about

    your joking aren;t you? it will proably be the source of banter in the dressing room. footballers are not saints this type of thing will be laughed at (not saying i agree with that but thats how it works)

    ronaldo nani and anderson were hardly treated as leapers were they>?

  145. PHZ says:

    And BTW:
    ManUnited > Rooney, right?

  146. pvtejones says:

    well I feel Scott has been been too quick to dis wayne. And with a number of people on here, agreethat to be tempted with fame and fortune at 24 SOMETIMES means we f up! He has F’d up but I am not going to disown him for it. As someone said before Men will be men, not that is something to be proud of but thats what we are and therefore surely capable of. I am actually annoyed ( a little) that we as United supporters are so wishing to disown him. Great mates great supporters. Give him a break . Shit it could be worse he could have scored an own goal for the scousers. We are going to destroy the guy if we continue with this. Yes a BIG mistake but not the end of a carreer by us surely!!

  147. azza says:

    yes what he did was wrong (if it is infact true) but we have to stick by him
    im sure the team will and we should too
    hopefully the boys use this as motivation and come out smash everton

  148. Fifthcolumnblue says:

    have to agree with the other City fan posting about this – These rumours have been doing the rounds since before the world cup began, and Rooney’s form suffered big-time (a slow retunr from injury undoubtedly compounded this).

    So my point is that fergie, Rooney’s missus, the rest of the team and probably his England colleagues have known about this for ages, yet on the eve of the story breaking he ends up putting in his best shift in ages?

    Disgusting as his actions may have been, I reckon the story coming out has lanced the boil and will enable him to get on with the football. Fully expect the Everton fans (and Liverpool the week after) to crucify him, and he might even end up getting sent off, but suspect this is the end of the saga rather than the start.

  149. Faddy is a legend says:

    Wayne has acted stupidly and not for the first time, however an important thing for us fans to remember is that we need to continue to support him. If we look at what happened to Ronaldo and Beckham and Cantona after we continued to give them our support then we should realise that standing by Rooney, as long as SAF does, is the thing that must be done so that Rooney will mature and grow into an even better player in the same way that the aforementioned also did.

  150. willierednut says:

    No one but Colleen and Wanyes inner family have the right to judge Rooney. We’re all disappointed with this, but I’ve heard United are sticking by him, so we should do the same.

  151. jimmybob says:

    I don;t see spurs fans wanting crouch to be sacked, whats the difference?

  152. Costas says:

    Good and very sensible post from Fifthcolumnblue .

    I disagree with generalisations like “we’ve all cheated at some point”. Some of us haven’t. For me the problem also lies elsewhere. Getting married at 18,20 or whatever is too soon. Not for everyone of course, but some people haven’t had the chance to live a full life by that point. Scholesy strikes you as the person that would get married at a very young age and settle down. Rooney or Ronaldo for that matter, don’t. I am 27 and I am not thiking about getting married until I am 40, lol.

  153. willierednut says:

    jimmybob – Nobody gives a toss about Crouch mate. Rooneys one of the best players in the world, so he’ll get the most coverage.

  154. Faddy is a legend says:

    @willierednut

    Its easier for Crouch to rise above it though! lol

  155. Costas says:

    Crouch should be arrested for cheating on that babe. :P

  156. Evra's biggest fan says:

    I think that everyone here is getting alittle to carried away with them selves,

    There still doesnt appear to b any EVIDENCE other that a prostitute saying she slept with rooney.

  157. willierednut says:

    Evra’s biggest fan – If it wasn’t true, do you not think Wayne would have come out and denied it right away, and he plans to sue the papers?

  158. Evra's biggest fan says:

    @willierednut …

    possibly or they mite take the stance of no having to justify something complete rubbish and dont get me wrong its dispicable if its true.

    But I see people of here calling rooney this and that but i havent seen anything conclusive and if you are only going on the fact that he hasnt denied it… he hasnt confirmed it either!! so why is everyone so quick to right him off.

    I could be clunching at straws and may well be speaking differently if it wasnt rooney and wasnt a united player but still…

  159. bigphil2003 says:

    having never cheated on a girlfriend hardly makes me a saint. if you want to fuck around for a while don’t get into a relationship in the first place.

  160. Evra's biggest fan says:

    big phil agreed…

    My Personal favorite excuse from tiger woods was i have a sex addiction… no shit!! which male doesnt and secondly you dont have an addiction you just shouldnt be married!

  161. willierednut says:

    bigphill03 – I have, when i was younger, does that make me a bad person? You do bad shit, when your younger, but hopefully you’ll learn from it, from Waynes point of view, hope that’s the case. Costas made a good point, maybe he got married to early, probably thought it would settle him down. Again, I’m not making excuses for him, just expressing my point of view.

  162. UTD2701 says:

    Absolutely spot on with this Scott. You have basically written down all my thoughts on this matter. Disappointed in Roo big time and I can’t believe after boasting to my mate (Chelsea fans) that none of our players are scumbags like Terry and Cole, this story comes out and completely throws my thoughts out the window. Oh and this is definitely going to affect Rooneys form no questions about it.

  163. bigphil2003 says:

    @willie, no doesn’t make you a bad person if you do it when you’re younger, nor does it make me a saint or a goody two shoes for not doing it as was being made out. I’m assuming you weren’t married with a kid on the way at the time though? Rooney’s been with colleen since they were 16 so he never had that period of fucking around for a while and was maybe jealous of the people that did. You can’t have it both ways though, it was his choice to stay with her from a young age.

  164. Busby says:

    Alas, the days of real men like Bruce, Pallister, Keane, Robson, Giggs and Cantona are long gone. Men of honor have given way to a culture of chavs driving flash cars and hooking up with slags who see footballers as their way out of the council estates. I’m not overly bothered with what Rooney does in his private life so long as he does the business on the field, but if he has ambitions to catch the likes of Xavi, Messi, Iniesta and Ronaldo he would be well advised to put more focus on football.

  165. Steve Johnson says:

    Just because certain people have a talent that makes them marketable, to the tune of millions, and famous the world over, we cannot expect that this fame and fortune make them real heroes such as Gandhi or Mandela…. Rooney is a young lad, he didn’t ask to be liked, loved or worshipped because of his character; instead its because of his skill, passion and determination on the football pitch. If you want to worship a holier than thou person choose the pope, don’t go too far back in history though!

    Rooney is still a fantastic player, I personally would not do what he has allegedly done, but that doesn’t matter; what he is and what he remains is one of the best footballers in the world. He knows more than anyone at the moment how he has made a major mistake and he will now have to face the consequences of his actions…he is the architect of his destiny. He will need you lot, the Man U faithful to support him, because everywhere else (including the Bridge where I go) he will be slaughtered, but he will get over it. If you don’t support him and SAF decides to sell, can we have first refusal please?….
    KTBFFH

  166. willierednut says:

    bigphill03 – Me married? No way, not yet lol. Fair enough mate, but listen, no ones making Rooney out to be a saint. What I’ve said and others have said, is that he’s still young, and he’s still learning about life and he’s always in the spotlight. Colleens well within her rights to chuck him out, but i just think that United fans should stay behind him, while he’s represents us on the pitch.

  167. KIngOfStretfordEnd says:

    This whole thing just re-emphasizes the Manchester United>Rooney/any one player thing.Most if not all of us have been idolizing and supporting Rooney fervently.He’s our talisman.All this while I’ve been supporting him as a person and a player,just that now i’d have to strike off the former.We don’t know how to react that’s the thing, whether this is gonna affect Rooney or whether Sir Alex’s gonna take any action on this.and seriously please never come up with TEAM ROONEY whatsoever,that’ll be like accepting what he’s done.Let’s not be stupid and defend Rooney’s acts like some other fans, cos the fact is that he’s done wrong and it’ll look daft to support what he’s done.When he’s playing i’m all the way behind him as usual.
    Just watched the Fletch,O shea and Evans funny interview again.They seem like angels in relative comparison now.

  168. andy p says:

    Ashley Cole – lots of cheating
    John Terry – lots of cheating.

    This should blow over in a few days/weeks. I dont think it is that big a deal unless Alex Ferguson wants to set an example and I dont think he would use the Golden Child rooney as a sacrificial lamb anyways

  169. jimmybob says:

    having never cheated on a girlfriend hardly makes me a saint. if you want to fuck around for a while don’t get into a relationship in the first place.

    No disrespect but unlike rooney i doubt you had stunning women throwing themselves at you time and time again.

    Robson best beckham and may others had affairs do you class them as untd legends or not?

  170. Leptuski says:

    Well, let me commence by stating that I am an Arsenal fan. It’s sad that such indecency seems to be building up amongst the English players. I pity Coleen and Roo and pray that this does not cause a split in their otherwise splendid marriage. Ordinarily, I would have wanted to say ‘what the heck? It’s his life!’ But then I remember the thousands of kids around the globe that look up to these players. What does such behaviour do to their psyche?
    You wonder what is wrong in the world of sports (Tiger, Beckham, Cole, Ronaldo(s), Terry, Rooney,?). Could it be as a result of the overnight success the chaps have gone through? One of the tabloids reported the prostitute in question recounting how Roo easily throws £1,200 for each night fling (wonder how many mouth that will feed in a 3rd World country). This is aside the room rate that would be charged in the luxury hotel. Stepping up from nadir to celebrity status is no mean feat. The blame should not be heaped on only the celebrities or the media that latch on them to sell their tabloids, but equally on the populace that feed on this news.
    Considering your fans were slagging Terry (whose indecency was worse, imo) last season, I love that you have acknowledged that a similar fate probably awaits Roo, especially on away fixtures. I wish that would not be so, as it only further causes a player grief and affects the game. I hope Roo comes out to publicly apologize (a la Tiger Woods), make up with Coleen (Beckham style), attend counselling classes and do his damn best to return a better person.
    But to achieve the above, he needs our support (esp when he has publicly acknowledged his mistake and apologized). There will always be an opportunist willing to fleece on him (and others) at one time or the other (or would someone tell me that the prostitute girl did not know long before now that she was going to make a windfall by singing to the press). Only God knows how much exchanged hands for her to reveal the details, with no regards whatsoever for her prey’s family.
    For the celebrities however, it is the price they must pay for the status that has been bestowed upon them. They either stay clean and smile to the bank draped in the adulation of fans or stay on the dung, where no one cares how many prostitutes they bed (alas, there will be no money for such).

  171. bigphil2003 says:

    George Best the player is of course a United legend. George Best the man off the field I find hard to respect. I’m not one of the ones calling for rooney to be sold or anything ridiculous. He’ll get my full support on the pitch and as long as it doesn’t affect his performances I’ll not actually care. It will make it harder to defend him when opposing fans slag him off though and like Scott said I don’t feel the same way I did about him last week.

  172. ctid76 says:

    Still don’t get all the anger directed this kid’s way.

    Being violent (and intentionally ending someone’s career,) makes you a bad person.
    Beating up your wife and kids makes you a bad person.
    Stealing makes you a bad person.
    Hating someone for their skin color or religion makes you bad person and a racist shithead.

    But being unfaithful?
    Just because some of you lot are all ever faithful, doesn’t mean it a terrible thing.
    It happens all the time – even with our own Tevez. Couldn’t give a toss.
    It’s not even that it’s footballers – what about Bill Clinton.
    And according to MY wife, a prozzie is WAY better than a someone we know. (in fact sometimes, she even tells me to go and find myself a hooker, when I come home drunk looking for a quick bonk – although she might be joking – I’m not sure.)

    Methinks all this anger is a symptom of something else…just like the whole glaser thing…

    34 years – haha – see, I’m singing it myself.

  173. jimmybob says:

    will make it harder to defend him when opposing fans slag him off though and like Scott said I don’t feel the same way I did about him last week

    To be honest the away fans hate all our players, look at the stick even guys like owen and giggs get,
    what have they done wrong?

    It’s up to you how you feel about rooney and I’m not saying your right and I’m wrong but I won’;t write off a a 23 year old kid for making a mistake .

    The only people he has hurt are his family and himself, unlike some footballers who are guilty of a lot worse things and won;t get half the headlines rooney did.

  174. jimmybob says:

    if some can not peice together that a personal life fucks up your football life then you are a thick as fuck

    do you think so? a cole has played better since he had his affairs lashed all over the place
    ronaldo got hammmered after the world cup and actually played better. Bowyer best form came when he was on trial for gbh, rio got better after his ban etc

    some people are stronger willed than others and keep their personal life private and they can continue to play to their best ability look at people like will carling in rugby affairs never stopped him playing well or lawrence dallagio.

    Fuck me we had guys like clinton running countries with their personal lives all over the shop let alone still being able to play football, don;t panic wayne will be fine

  175. joed says:

    wow ctid76…

    your parents obviously did a disastrous job of raising you as you have no respect for marriage and you’re a city fan…

  176. ctid76 says:

    I have plenty of respect for marriage – I’ve been faithful to my wife for 16 years – so far.

    I just have no respect for people who make moral judgements on others. They’re usually a bunch a repressed puritans, who have a shedload of skeletons in their own closet.

    And didn’t your parents teach you not to respond to city posters? It only encourages them….

  177. Aditya Shah says:

    In our defense we can say he was born in Liverpool. :P

  178. perkythered says:

    i thought this was a football blog – not a pulpit for sermons from the (self)righteous!

  179. Jorgen says:

    “Gary says:
    Who cares? All the press and fans alike acting holier than thou. Who cares if it is true, it’s not like we know the bloke on a personal level.”

    Couldnt agree more. Its dusgusting to sit safe and anonymous behind our keyboards and condemn public persons for things they do, when the fact is that many of us have done similar things or worse!
    I remember all the things said about Terry on this site and many other sites and that was equally bad.
    So shut up taking the higher moral ground and get behind United and Rooney, we are just as good and bad. The only difference being that he is a brilliant footballplayer and we are not…

  180. Kevin says:

    I have one final thing to add. Many people who mentioned my comment have argued that I am missing the point that this does affect our club by giving us a bad image similar to that of Chelsea and it will affect his on the field performance.

    Rooney’s actions in no way makes us anything like Chelsea. For one we don’t have multiple cheaters like Chelsea and Rooney’s actions in no way DIRECTLY effects other member of the team like John Terry’s escapades did. So for me that is a mute and illogical point and honestly ridiculous.

    The second point of it affecting his play is a real one and one that I addressed in my last post. I am not sure it will as people have gone through worse and still played well. He has been in poor form since his ankle injury last year and I doubted his ability to repeat the stellar performance he had last year. The standards he set where incredible high and while matching that would be fantastic, even coming close could prove vital. We need more then Rooney and this just hightens that need.

    But that misses the point, if we are the club we all believe we are one player does not or should not be able to define our season. We have got more cover up front and if he does dip in form it shouldn’t matter. All last year we argued we weren’t a one man team, if Rooney cheating is going to adversely affect our season then we ARE a one man team or at the very least heavily relient on one man. I don’t believe that is the case and I think we have quality players who can come in, if his form drops, and step into a pivotal role.

  181. redroy says:

    There are are many things that a 1000 pound -a-night hooker will do that poor Colleen probably wont do for wayne. There. I said it.

  182. TonyBee says:

    its not as if this bird was fit ….she was an old bolton banger that even ar the age of 22 has seen better days…..jesus, what a fucking dog……..shame that Wazza fell for it…daft prick that he surely is….but as they say people who live in glass houses ……

  183. johnterrylegend says:

    Extraordinary,rooney sleeps with a dirty prostitute and terry slleeps with a mates girl AFTER their relationship had ended,months after….and you lot reckon his behaviour is worse…time to cop on i think and realise the seriousness and gravity of rooneys actions….if terry did do what he has been alleged to do and i must stress it has been denied strenuosly by terry and peroncel it pales in significance to the guy who whored about while his wife was heavily pregnant…

  184. Costas says:

    @johnterrylegend

    Look at it like this. Wayne Rooney betrayed his wife at the worst time possible. Terry cheated on his wife and he betrayed his teammate causing a rift with the mother of his child. The excuse that he did it after Bridge and her broke up is bullshit. Did he even tell Bridge that he was eyeing his ex wife? Since Bridge refused to shake his hand, I guess not. nock Rooney all you want, but don’t tell me that what Terry did wasn’t (at least) equally as bad.

    You have to know that the way the papers and the fans start gossiping about the celebrities’ personal lives is getting out of hand when we start comparing who was the better cheater.

  185. dannysoya says:

    rooney has embarasse manchester united and everyone involved with the club up to the fans. only yesterday when the news came out , my arsenal friends began to pour all sorts of abuses on me, why? cuz i always defend all our players even when they do wrong , i try to downplay it but now that i cannot downplay this one they had a filled day taking swipes at me. that ain’t fair considering the fact that I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY!!!!!
    also there is sir alex ferguson. his reputation will be a little bit tainted as he has behaved like he’s rooney’s real father since he moved to OT. fergie has done everything in his power to protect wayne from the media and now wayne repays him with this? i have a feeling that wayne is in for a horrible time when he returns to carrington. and as you have noticed fergie has still not said anything. which is unusual. i can only think that he is slowly boiling and is just waiting to explode on rooney. sucks to be wayne rooney right now.
    BUT Wayne rooney will always get my support. he is a 24 yr old man and probably would not get as much publicity on this issue if he wasn’t so good at playing football. there are dozens of 24 yr old men out there who have done far worse than wayne rooney and yet they are off the hook. they don’t have to pay anything to their wives and they still keep their jobs. the only thing i can say is that wayne rooney should be treated like a normal human being and not like he’s the pope.

  186. SmartAlex says:

    @ ctid76 14:34

    The hooker is for her, 34 years since since she had a winner.

  187. jimmybob says:

    he is playing well again now., this junk is out in the open it will soon be forgotten

    keep getting the goals wayne son

    fuck the abus

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