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Q&A With FA Cup Winning Goal Scorer Lee Martin

Former Manchester United player, Lee Martin, has taken time out to answer a few questions for RoM on his time at the club and what he’s been up to since.

STR: You joined United when you were a kid. How confident were you of making it for the first team then?

LM: I was never confident I was ever good enough to play in United’s first team.

STR: Who were the best players in your age group?

LM: Probably Gary Walsh and a player called Dennis Cronin.

STR: How much did you have to do with Ferguson when you were in the youth team?

LM: Sir Alex always took a lot of time to watch and be involved with youth team.

STR: How many times a week do people want to reminisce with you about your FA Cup final goal? Does it ever get irritating?

LM: Most weeks somebody asks me about FA cup goal, it will never get boring.

STR: What are your other favourite memories from your time at United?

LM: Making my debut against QPR was a great memory but I have loads of great memories.

STR: Who was the biggest joker at the club then?

LM: Probably Paul Ince.

STR: How did you feel at United in your last full season when you weren’t playing much but United ended the 26 year wait for the title?

LM: I’v always been a United fan so winning league was pretty special for me because I played a small part of that success.

STR: Do you still get to see United much?

LM: I work at Old Trafford on matchdays now so I’m at every home game.

STR: What is your favourite United moment since you left the club?

LM: It has to be winning treble. The way the season ended priceless.

STR: How do you rate our chances this season?

LM: We haven’t really played well since first month but are still only 2 points behind. Stronger in new year. We’ve got quite a lot of injuries but it will be close come May. Sir Alex doesn’t get it wrong very often.

STR: What are you up to these days?

LM: I am working for a training company in Chester working with teenagers. Also matchday hospitality, MUTV and a lot of travelling, playing games with ex-players team.

STR: Cheers Lee.

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297 Comments

  1. gaurav12931 says:

    A man of few words eh….

  2. United till I die says:

    He has the personality of a fucking golf ball. His fa cup goal more than makes up for it though

  3. Mikekelly12 says:

    I went to that game! Was in Germany for the 3-3 so kind of glad we got the replay so I could go. Was pissed out my head. Some bloke was passing a bottle of brandy around that he’d smuggled in a big foam hand!

  4. United till I die says:

    He has the personality of a fecking golf ball. His fa cup goal more than makes up for it though

  5. CedarsDevil says:

    For that goal alone – Legend

  6. Paco Rabane says:

    He has the personality of a furball! His FA cup goal will always stick in the throat, though.

  7. RedHound says:

    thought you guys might want to check this out, wonder how he saved Fergie’s job though

    http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/exclusive-suarez-evra-hearing-potential.html

  8. King Eric says:

    Always liked Lee Martin. Top bloke and great finish that night.

  9. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    I have to salute you for having your memory still in check….. I had all them match day programs to remind me of all the games I attended and as I mentioned before after leaving England my sister in law threw them out! Bless her though, I love her to bits

  10. kanchelskis says:

    @RedHound

    Deluded prats. I’m sure if you digged deep enough you could find some laughably tenuous connection between one of the panel and Liverpool.

  11. wayne says:

    Cedars lol had the same happen to me when i moved to Canada had a suitcase full of programs,when mum and dad moved house the suitcase disappeared.I used to send away for old ones i collected them for years.Still think my bro in law fucking ripped them off,probably knew the value.

  12. Ash says:

    http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/spurs-complete-7-5m-deal-for-manchester-united-midfield-target-14277/?
    One of our targets sign for Spurs. I saw someone In ROM mentioning that Elm will sign for us. No he signs for Spurs

  13. King Eric says:

    So Barca players ARE human. Villa fractured his leg. Nasty.

  14. Ash says:

    http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=34862
    Great news for indian fans. Manchester United open their first School in India in mumbai.

  15. King Eric says:

    Ash – Hello mate. I wouldnt take any notice of that link mate. “Reportedly”. No quotes or fuck all. Anyway who cares? Who on earth is Elm?

    Denton will be pleased to hear rumours in the Italian press that Fergie after De Rossi!!

  16. Ash says:

    King Eric- Hi mate.Someone said that day In ROM that in mutv it was said that we are going to sign him . So I posted the link. Yeah nothing is confirmed. But who cares if it is not us who sign anyone.
    Rumours today are we are going to Bid for rodwell. OK player but the boy has good skill.
    Anyways I will prefer Our academy players to shine for us.

  17. Mikekelly12 says:

    Redound
    Typical scouse fucker. Maybe he should look a bit closer to home and remember why the hearing is taking place. Worry more about having a blatant racist in your squad rather than some obscure link as to why he might be found guilty based on a bloke that worked with the son of the manager who manages the player that was racially abused! Save Sir Alex’s job, do me a favour. If that scouse prick really believes that than I might call him up and sell him this van load of bubbles I’ve got for spirit levels!! It’s called trying to sell a book that nobody’s interested in. Finally, if your a massive fan of impartiality, where was your write up when Bernstein, ex City chairman, decided to invent a new punishment for a new offence prior to his teams most important game in their history, which gave them a HUGE advantage in the said game?! Thought so, dip shit!

  18. RedHound says:

    Though i can now look back at the rumours that Real Madrid and Chelsea were chasing Bebe, and laugh at them as nothing but idiotic attempts to rip off people, the Pogba thing is too intriguing. On the one hand, newspapers and other media houses have always connived with thieving agents to furnish stories about their clients being desired by the superpowers of world football. As the Law of Tom Sawyer dictates, this will only make the prices shoot higher, will only make the players more desirable, no one would want to miss out on the next Ronaldo or Messi over a few million quid. On the other hand, sometimes papers do publish truth, sometimes papers will even know when a medical is going to be held, will know the precise offers clubs have made to players, will actually have “true exclusives” if you will. At first i dismissed the Pogba scenario as one of those belonging to the first category, we get this foolery all the time. But the rumours have persisted, the Daily Mirror, the dreaded “National Exclusive” DailyMail has a story today on how Inter Milan is serious about Pogba. the disturbing thing is that these reports have actual figures, actual correspondence must surely be going on. But then, promising academy starlet and all, fired in a a few rockets and all that apart, what has Pogba done to warrant all this Johnny English madness, what makes the Italian duo of AC Milan and Inter, Man City and Arsenal think they would have pulled off a coup if they get Pogba? Ravel Morrison, Tunnicliffe, Keane, Ezekiel, etc are all showing as much promise as him. Sure he could have an extremely bright future ahead of him plugging up midfields, but i just dont see that special, “theres a goldmine over there, buy it at whatever cost” x-factor. You could point out the obvious small monetory cost(United would reportedly be due a small compensation fee and all that) but how many cheaper, proven, world class players have their contracts running out at the moment. Morestill the age thing doesnt explain it for me either because there are too many “New Messis and Ronaldos” at the moment that would be poached almost for free if as expected the mentioned clubs have a half-decent scouting system.

  19. CedarsDevil says:

    wayne

    Hahaha, that brother in law of yours seems like a thieving cunt! Get your sister to ditch him! hahahaha

  20. Gimmered says:

    Srry cedars looks like barca gnna tap up for rvp after villa injury.

  21. CedarsDevil says:

    On another note, my doc finally reduced my pill intake yesterday and allowed me to have red meat…. I have just enjoyed a burger for the first time in 4 months

    HEAVEN

  22. wayne says:

    Cedars mate he’s a cunt full stop,my sister died of cancer a few years ago,since heard he was cheating on her while she was dying.He’d be dead if i had my way

  23. CedarsDevil says:

    wayne

    So so sorry to hear about your sister mate, such terrible news………..Fuck him indeed in that case, what a horrible cunt

  24. wayne says:

    Cedars the biggest i’ve ever met in everyway,he really is a waste of space and a horrible death is what he derserves been a bad cunt all his life.

  25. Giles Oakley says:

    Enjoy your Red meat, Cedars, add strength to your recovery with the old song, ‘When the Reds go munching on’…

    As to Lee Martin, he’s a good guy and worthy of a bit of respect. Just because someone’s modest doesn’t mean they have no personality. And how would you tell from a short interview in print? AS for me, I’ll always be grateful for his magic goal. I can still see it in my mind’s eye, net billowing behind the keeper.

  26. CedarsDevil says:

    wayne

    Just send the sad fuck over, will send him to the south and he will enjoy a fucked up death indeed….

    Fuck me, the mere news of the existence of horrible pricks sickens me

  27. CedarsDevil says:

    Oh when the reds go munching on!

    Cheers Sir Giles, just lifted my spirits

  28. wayne says:

    Cedars seeing that cunt on tv ready to be beheaded would give me a happy xmas.lol

  29. CedarsDevil says:

    wayne

    The news of the demise of your sister has really saddened me and even angered me for the mere fact that she had a cunt for a husband….. Having him beheaded is way too kind, would rather watch such a sad fucking bastard tortured to death

  30. Mikekelly12 says:

    Wayne
    Sorry to hear about your sister pal. I’m not the most religious of people but I’m hoping she is somewhere free from pain.

  31. wayne says:

    Cedars thanks mate,we come from the same era and think the same,i could write a full chapter on this cunt.enough on him puts me in a bad mood and my day is just starting.

  32. Captain Park says:

    That goal was important because it gave us an FA cup win from which we proceeded to dominate. So, he’s still a legend to me.

  33. Mes says:

    Cedars – great news. Properly pleased for you. Get a kofte kebab or something!

    Wayne – Jesus, I’m sorry mate. Utterly disgraceful. Doubtless your sis wouldn’t want you wasting thoughts on him though. Cunts like that ALWAYS get their comuppance (is that even how you spell that? is it even a word)

    Giles – “when the reds go munching on” ha haa

    STR – “Ferguson”??? That just feels a little disrespectful to me. Like something some twunty journo would say, not someone who loves the fella dearly!

  34. RedHound says:

    great prospect by the way

    Douglas Franco Teixeira

  35. wayne says:

    Thanks for the best wishes lads it was a few years ago so i’ve accepted her death,he’s never far from my thoughts though.anyway have to make some money,have a good day lads

  36. Giles Oakley says:

    Hi Wayne, I somehow missed the crucial bit about your sister’s death and her cheating bloke. Horrible, horrible stuff, not surprising you still feel it. My sympathies on all counts, my friend.

  37. Paul Parker says:

    Good to see him working in the Community, always appreciated mate!

    RedHound – Pogba has 18 months on his contract and is a recognised top talent for his age so many would love to nick him with the promise of more football. Current French Captain for his age and has been for years, so you have to expect players of his caliber attracting attention when they’re sitting on our bench. The ABU’s writing these stories don’t inform readers that United have over a year to sort out a contract because it doesn’t sound as dramatic nor sell as many papers. Im surprised how how easily the press can put people off their beer. So now Pogba is suddenly no more special than our other youth players and we won’t miss him? Tell that to the other youth players and tell that to Alex Ferguson! Its not like our European rivals are chasing our OTHER youth players, is it? Pogba is class.

    As for Bebe, why do you doubt other Clubs were interested in signing him? At the time he was like a house for sale in a desirable area that had no plumbing, no electricity and no gas. To the untrained eye who would want to buy the house? But to a man of means the house becomes a fucking bargain. Lets remind ourselves, this shit player of ours scored 2 goals in 7 games from wide positions in his DEBUT season, and he’s still to start a game in the EPL or Europe. Scored loads in the reserves that year as well. Oh, and he’s a full year younger than the young Tom Cleverly. Add it all up and im not sure HOW THE FUCK so many have been convinced he’s utter shite with no future after only 7 games in a United shirt? Bebe has played the same number of United games as Cleverley, but he’s already scored twice with one in Europe? Can’t for the life of me see how so many people can call his ONE season of SEVEN games a failure, He only cost 7 million for fuck sake, and Alex told all who would listen that Bebe is a couple seasons away from being ready so don’t expect too much. 2 goals in 7 games later AS A WINGER he’s shit and will never be good enough at 20 years old? Murdoch strikes again, I gotta fucking laugh.

  38. Mikekelly12 says:

    Paul Parker
    Who’s slating Bebe?

  39. RedHound says:

    Rooney’s ongoing webchat

    Who’s the funniest player at Manchester United ???

    Wayne Rooney :

    I’d have to say Phil Jones. He’s funny without trying to be funny! He’s a nice lad and he’s good to have around the dressing room.

  40. Paul Parker says:

    @Mikekelly12 – I wouldn’t say he was slating him but Red Hound brought him up @ 13:35

    Thing is, Kiko is a Striker and has only 6 goals in nearly 50 games over 3 seasons.
    Bebe is a Winger, and has 2 goals in only 7 games after ONE season.

    I rate both players, but I’ll never work out how so many otherwise intelligent fans rate one player miles and miles above the other. Make me laugh pal, because apart from Bebe being only one year older, the only difference between the two players is Kiko is a media darling since scoring that amazing goal against Villa, and Bebe is a media villain since signing for 7 million after Ronaldo left. I guess Murdoch knows more than Fergie? For any young midfielder on the planet including Morrison, Tunni, Pogba, whoever – scoring 2 goals in 7 games is a brilliant start to to any senior career. Lets see if these players can even match what Bebe has already done from RW. Like I said mate, makes me laugh.

  41. Paul Parker says:

    Wayne – fucking hell mate sorry to hear that.

  42. RedHound says:

    Wholeheartedly agree with Rooney on “The Shawshank Redemption.” Every time you have to do something incredibly hard, go watch that movie. Despite the fact its fiction, it captures the power of human endurance in a very powerful way.

  43. Captain Park says:

    Hi Wayne, we may not know each other, but my heart goes out to both you and your late sister. My apologies, I just read your earlier post in regard to your late sis.

  44. M-united says:

    does anyone know any good mutv stream ? the reserves play liverpool today!

  45. Utd4life says:

    Off topic.. Looking forward to the reserves match. Will be nice to see Pogba, Morrison and Fryers in action.

  46. Paul Parker says:

    Red Hound – Just read that KOP article. Don’t be fooled by that load of bollocks, Jesus.

    For starters it wasn’t Justice Hewart who introduced that principle, Justice Hewart was a incompetent fat fucking crook, see Hobbs v Tinling and Company LTD [1929] 2 KB 1.

    That quote about “justice being seen to be done” should instead be attrbuted to Justice Sankey, who tore Hewart a new arsehole in that same case. Not that a thick, knuckle-dragging cunt would give two fucks about little things like “facts”, mind you.

    Trust the Scousers to fuck up their own argument. If they REALLY want Justice to be seen to be done then that dozy looking Daglesh must be punished for constantly speaking out about the case when he was told quite clearly to STFU….

    Alex Ferguson has followed the rules to the letter, and even spoke out against the constant dripping of statements from Anfield. Obviously our manager has LOADS to say in defence of Evra but he’s chosen to follow the guidelines for the process, “so justice can be seen to be done”.

    As for the link with a panel memeber, our manager has been in the game for over 3 decades, im sure he knows EVERYBODY. All these LFC idiots banging on about due process and being persecuted want to go and have a word with their dozy manager, tell him to shut the fuck up.

    Never read so much bollocks in all my life.

    http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/exclusive-suarez-evra-hearing-potential.html

  47. Paco Rabane says:

    Wayne – Sad news mate. The louse bag she was married too, isn’t worth your thoughts. Having a younger sister myself though, I can fully understand your emotions. Your sis wouldn’t want you to end up in jail, for a scummy cunt, who isn’t worth the hassle.

  48. Costas says:

    Nice. Respect for the man that opened the floodgates. :)

  49. RedHound says:

    @Paul Parker

    of course i dont buy into that flawed, load of trash argument, my curiosity was aroused by the claim that Denis Smith saved Fergie’s job, have to say i havent heard a thing about it.

  50. RedHound says:

    Hehe the jokers again, or should i say the joke, seeing as City is one big joke. This serves their team well ahead of the clash with Arsenal. Micah Richards fighting with Balotelli, with pictorial proof, doesnt get better than that, except Balotelli could outdo himself and punch Mancini. Bodes well for the team spirit. :)

  51. smartalex says:

    wayne – He could win an African safari, just like on Prey. Difficult to arrange search parties from North America. He’s a terrible person and I’m sorry that your sister met him.

    You do need closure, so a legal way might be to tempt him with some more valuable dust-gathering goods that won’t be missed. Add 1 (video camera) or (cheap tracker)

    Seems like a lot of hard work when all you want to do is ruin your shoes on him.

  52. daemondada says:

    @cedars,

    Glory be to God for His mercies.I alwayz knew you were a fighter tho you come across as soft hearted and sweet.Staying off the kebabs (and alcohol no doubt) all this while has surely bn a humongous test of your character and resolve.Never let up and keep to the doctor’s orders my friend so that complete remission would be your portion.

    @smartalex and Kevin,

    you guys have to forgive my delayed response.
    I have done so on the preceding thread.thanks.

    @RoM,

    what a happy day Cedars is on the mend!
    I must confess that we’ve bn inundated with so much bad news of late that this latest and most welcome development has lifted some of the gloom we have bn feeling as a result of our lengthy injury roster.

    @wayne,

    Chin up lad and let bygones be bygones.She is in heaven and safe.That’s all that really matters.I hope her kids,if any,are OK?all the best my friend.

  53. Costas says:

    What a spastic. I remember Richards laughing at Balotelli’s “Why always me” t-shirt after the derby game and saying what a great bloke the Italian was. :lol:

  54. smartalex says:

    Have a drink to Robbo, Cedarsdevil! He’s also thirsty after all this time.

  55. xol says:

    You must have all seen the press over the last few weeks suggesting that getting knocked out of the European Cup will hit us harder than City. Well, I’ve yet to see our players fighting each other.

    Cast your mind back to transfer window reports during the last 2 years or so: “If City can get into the Champions League, they’ll attract the best players”. They found themselves in the Champions League for a bit, they did sign big players attracted to playing in such a competition, but they’re out of it now and are looking to next year. They’ve just suffered a defeat but are still top. If they don’t keep up their early season form, their chances of being in next year’s European Cup will evaporate and the wheels will come off because their players won’t want to stick around.

    Credit to Sir Alex for having an alternative take on what makes a player ‘best’ for our needs.

  56. smartalex says:

    Peterborough United midfielder Ryan Tunnicliffe has backed himself to fill the void in midfield left by Grant McCann’s injury. The 18-year-old, on loan from Manchester United, has made just six starts for Posh this season.

    “Grant will be a big miss,” he told BBC “But while he’s out I’ll be more suited to that holding role than the any of the other midfielders. It’s a big opportunity and I’ve got to take it. It’s not my preferred position. I do understand it and we’ve been working on it in training to try and perfect it.”

    Boss Darren Ferguson confirmed the Red Devils youngster would get the nod to replace the club captain against Coventry on Saturday. With just three games of his London Road stint remaining, Ferguson is “hopeful” he will return in January. But Tunnicliffe admits that injury problems at Old Trafford, where Darren Fletcher has been ruled out for the foreseeable future, could lure him back to the Premier League champions.

    “I’ll speak to my agent, the gaffer here and maybe [Man] United to see what’s best for me,” he explained. “There’s obviously a shortage at [Man] United at the moment so I could look at that and maybe try and push for the first team. Maybe the gaffer thinks staying down here is better for me. But we’ll just have to see.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16205959.stm

  57. Fred says:

    Another training ground fight at City? Deary me. There was a bust-up in the tunnel after they lost to Chelsea the other night as well. Can’t wait to see what happens after Le Professeur and his glorious Gunners put them to the sword on Sunday. It’s live in stunning HD and fantabulocious 3-D, so I’ll probably be watching it like this: http://sfbimages.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn0513.gif

  58. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Lee Martin was one of Fergies first round of fledglings. Peaking in a 2 year spell from 88-90. He picked up a back injury and really never got back in the squad as understudy to Denis Irwin. Not a real talker it seems ;)

  59. smartalex says:

    This is what England’s United fans have in store. 30 seconds.
    Jim Rosenthal & Stan Collymore “Thursday nights, Channel 5!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XngYF0UiZ-M

  60. smartalex says:

    … or should that be Britain’s?

  61. Paco Rabane says:

    ITV4……Stans a bore!

  62. Paul Parker says:

    @RedHound – loads of people claim they’ve saved our Manager’s job for various reasons. A goal, a top draw save, a word in somebodies ear, etc. I’d assume Denis Smith is just another name in the hat, although I don’t recall him being mentioned in 6 Years At United. As far as immediate facts, when Alex was at his lowest point prior to the win over Palace (Cheers Martin!), this Denis fella and his Black Cats were fighting for promotion from the old third tier. Not sure how our manager was saved by one man from all the way down there to be honest, but you never know.

    But eitherway its a stupid argument. If Alex had saved Denis Smith from the sack then any conflict of interest would be remote at best, but the claim here is that Smith saved Alex from the sack, which is even more irrelevant, and im not sure how that means the whole investigation is fixed? If you pay too much attention to deluded scouse-intrigue you’ll start thinking like one mate. Smith is about as relevant to Suarez and Evra as the Loch Ness monster.

  63. Paul Parker says:

    Cedars – enjoy your Burger mate!

  64. CedarsDevil says:

    daemondada

    Many thanks for your kind words my friend

  65. CedarsDevil says:

    Mes & Paul Parker

    Cheers fellas

  66. Paco Rabane says:

    Balo the buffoon in training ground bust up! Not really news worthy. This guy is a few pickles short of a sandwich. Is the pressure starting show already though? Sunday will be an interesting day in the title race.

  67. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @Paul Parker Brilliant retort. Refreshing to get a educated inside opinion on here. We have a few educated lads mind, but they are all working on less secure information it would seem. Anyway, I especially enjoyed the support of Bebe. I was a defender of his until last month when I did succumb to a smidgeon of skepticism. I know I done wrong, sniff. [Duly hangs his head in shame]

    Cheers

  68. smartalex says:

    The CL draw is at 11 am tomorrow, and EL Trophy (Europa League) is at noon.
    Those times are in RST (RoM Standard Time)

  69. Captain Park says:

    Paul Parker, great post above, cheers!!

  70. RedHound says:

    Looking forward to 2 or 3 years from now when football is really big in the USA, might actually end up showing all the big games on free networks

  71. RedHound says:

    Man United vs Liverpool

    1.Ben Amos
    2. Marnick Vermul
    3. Ezekiel Fryers
    4. Larnell Cole
    5. Scott Wootton
    6. Michael Keane
    7. Paul Pogba
    8. Darron Gibson
    9. Mame Biram Diouf
    10. William Keane
    11. Macheda

    Subs
    -Michele Forasier
    -Liam Jacob
    -David Petrucci
    -Tom Thorpe
    -Jesse Lingaard

    Ref- Ben Torner

  72. FletchTHEMAN says:

    MUFC Reserves v ‘pool at Moss Lane 7pm Kick off:

    Amos
    Vermijl Fryers LCole Wootton
    MKean Pogba Gibson Diouf WKeane Macheda

    Bench: Jacob Fornasier Petrucci Thorpe Lingard

  73. Devil310 says:

    Time is ticking for the Bitters to start self destruction

    A loss at the hands of the rent boys, training ground fight, and a tough game with Arsenal this weekend.

    If you add a couple of injuries to that mix, I can see these rats turning on each other fairly quickly

  74. RedHound says:

    God whats up with that Marvel, hope hes not in trouble

  75. Paul Parker says:

    FletchTHEMAN – cheers mate. I know I can bang on about Bebe, but its not like im saying he’s world class or anything, im just saying he’s not shit! No-one can justify calling a 20 year old WINGER shit after a few substitute appearances, thats just daft. Two goals in only seven games and 2 starts? How many goals did Giggs score in his first 7 competitive games? What about Nani and Ronaldo? Did they arrive scoring 40 and assisting 20? I’ll gladly call a shit player “a shit player”, but Bebe ain’t shit imo, the jury is still out. Gutted he was injured with Portugal otherwise we’d be seeing him put rockets past the likes of Stoke in Europa. Doubt very much we’ve seen the last of him tho.

  76. Paul Parker says:

    Cheers Captain Park.

    Gary Pallister was right about the Bitters always fighting – its really NOT a normal occurrence up and down the country. Arguments and such, yeah, but actually lunging for your team mate? Can’t see that happening at United unless its Alex doing the lunging. Personally I blame Mancini anyway, those players don’t respect him and it shows. What a Twat.

    As for this latest “scandal” it looks like Richards was the aggressor and not Balotelli, but don’t let that get in the way of a good story tho aye lads? Bored to death about reading every little thing he does tbh he’s not even that fucking controversial. Don’t see the big deal?

    I just hope RVP is fit and Gerviniho is up for providing more assists. Not surprised Yaya won’t miss the match, maybe the Chelsea fella being slapped and kicked should of done more than just look scared Lol, referee took one look at that cunt and said “fair play”. Hilarious to watch but he should’ve seen Red and missed this match. Like Gary Neville objectively said the other night, Yaya is their most important player. I can admit I wanted him here when he left Barca, and when he went City instead I expected them to improve drastically, and improve they have. Still, he can’t be fit all season (again) and once he’s out of the team their performances will suffer – no wonder Mancini doesn’t want him playing in Africa, he’s their Carrick but with 10 odd goals in him. Best piece of business they’ve done imo, but if Arsenal can nick the ball of him like we’ve already seen Anderson do, then I expect an upset. Otherwise, if Yaya is left free to collect and pass the ball as he wants, Le’ Arse will get fucked royally.

  77. Devil310 says:

    All this talk about Bebe….but does anybody have any info on his injury?

  78. DannyBoy says:

    Anyone have a good feed for the reserve game?

  79. Utd4life says:

    Does anybody have any idea on what happened to the youth player, Cofie? Is he injured?

  80. Paul Parker says:

    @ Devil310 – No further update that I know of – he’s being treated (or he’s already been treated) and he’s back with United sometime early next year when the loan runs out, and the management will look at him again.

  81. JC says:

    @DannyBoy – Ill try this one more time, RoM keeps blocking the links so remove the spaces… ice-sportz . eu / stream1 . html

  82. Paul Parker says:

    Kiko, Pogba, Fryers, Keane, Diouf, this is a strong side for Liverpool, should be a good match. Surprised theres no Morrison though, maybe he’ll be on the bench this Saturday?

  83. RedHound says:

    match commentary has started, weather is good, sides lining up

  84. Utd4life says:

    The Reserves match is about to start. Disappointed that Morrison isn’t in the team.

  85. M-united says:

    anyone have any stream for the reserves game

  86. Paul Parker says:

    Crack up every time I see that advert
    - Giggs and Evra can act but Rooney’s no fucking Thespian is he? haha

  87. RedHound says:

    Gibson really looks up for it

  88. Paco Rabane says:

    Paul Parker – He’ll freeze his nuts off mate, if sits on the bench on Saturday? The game is Sunday! :)

  89. RedHound says:

    Macheda plays Diouf through, almost scores

  90. Paul Parker says:

    haha – thought it was Saturday at 12?

  91. Costas says:

    The Bebe has to return to its cradle because it misses it Mame and it’s Nani. :P

  92. Utd4life says:

    Macheda needs to go on loan. No doubt about it. The lad looks clumsy.

  93. FletchTHEMAN says:

    PaulParker What is up with Morrison? Hope you are right about Saturday. Got to give these talented youngsters a bit of a carrot to go with the stick.

  94. zelh says:

    pogba’s playing the invisible man atm.

  95. RedHound says:

    Tons of scouts present

  96. zelh says:

    last thing I heard about Morrison was that he got an injury after the Crystal Palace game.

  97. King Eric says:

    Bebe was an absolute smoke and mirrors job to launder money through Mendez. Simple as that.

  98. RedHound says:

    Diouf goes on an outstanding dribble foward and then loses the ball…

  99. JC says:

    Diouf has been taking chipping lessons from Wayne apparently… :D

  100. zelh says:

    King – right but look which players he has contracts with. no coincidence that de gea came in summer.

  101. RedHound says:

    Macheda with the first actual shot for United

  102. King Eric says:

    I am assuming Morrison and Larnell Cole are absent due to them being with the first team?

  103. zelh says:

    Cole is playing on the right wing.

    Afaik Morrison is injured.

  104. King Eric says:

    Zehl – Oh I know pal.

    Ha. It is amusing to see the bitters pressing the self destruct button and it isnt even Christmas yet.

  105. CedarsDevil says:

    Evening all

    Hoo the fucking hooray, having enjoyed my first taste of red meat earlier today for four months I just had my first taste of fried food since that period as well……. Fried wedges with a dip baby!

    ‘Oh when the reds go munching on’ (Thanks Sir Giles for that)

  106. King Eric says:

    Zehl – Oh cheers mate. Didnt realise little Larnell was playing. Right off home to watch it. One lad that is good for the dippers but a cunt with his 5 fingered salute is Adam Morgan.

  107. CedarsDevil says:

    All those watching, please keep us posted on the match please

  108. james21 says:

    He’s on the mend. He’s on the mend oh Cedars is on the mend. :) Hit the roof like an idiot when Martin hit that goal. And Lucky Les Sealy, RIP,gave his medal to Jim Leighton. UTD UTD UTD

  109. zelh says:

    scouse cunt is sent off after kicking pogba in the face

  110. RedHound says:

    Straight red card for some guy called suso, kicked Pogba in the face he did

  111. Costas says:

    Morrison tweeted good luck to the players. So obviously no one pissed him off this time…

    KE’s comment about Bebe wasn’t what I expected from him. Usually I am the one with the conspiracy theories. :P

  112. Utd4life says:

    Liverpool have a player sent off.

  113. zelh says:

    Costas – doesn’t have much to do with conspiracy.

  114. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Straight Red for Susso, bit harsh to be honest LFC Reserves down to 10 v MUFC. Pogba kicked.

  115. zelh says:

    Looked intentionally to me.

    diouf almost with the first goal.

  116. RedHound says:

    Holy crap, Diouf beats the keeper, charges towards goal but is held off by the defender

  117. Paul Parker says:

    @King Eric, I heard that rumour too, theres no evidence for it tho is there? If you believe that would you call it coincidence or luck that he was good enough to score in 2 from the wing in 7 games? Im not so sure mate. I mean, thats not bad for a smoke and mirrors Winger when you compare it to Nani and Ronaldo’s first 7 competitive games.

    We’ll see what happens ‘for sure’ when Bebe returns from loan, but I don’t buy the laundering rumour. Bebe has been our most scrutinised transfer in the media for fuck knows how long, surely there are easier more discreet ways to launder money pal. Can’t see Sir Alex getting himself THAT close to money laundering, sounds daft tbh.

  118. CedarsDevil says:

    James is in the house baby, hell yes! How have you been pal? Never got an email from STR, want me to write to him?

    Cheers for the updates on the match fellas, so them young dippers are a man down eh? Brilliant

  119. RedHound says:

    Liverpool dont look like ten men….

  120. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    You are the king of conspiracy theories my friend, no one can match you….. I would argue that fact till my last breath! hahahahaha

  121. Captain Park says:

    Cheers Cedars, really glad to learn that you’re on the mend. :)

  122. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Making the rounds that in the Spaniard Suso will claim a kick in the face is a form of welcome where he is from.

  123. CedarsDevil says:

    RedHound

    The scousers never look like real men pal…. They are just thieving bin dippers! hahaha

  124. RedHound says:

    This game misses Morrison, best of the lot for me

  125. james21 says:

    Cedars. Still working away, not checked emails yet. Reception not good, so limited participation. Good to hear about the burger mate. Where’s eeyore tonight? :)

  126. CedarsDevil says:

    Captain Park

    Thanks my friend….. Loving your posts by the way

  127. zelh says:

    nice ball from gibson into the box on cole who puts it square to pogba, but was offside.

  128. zelh says:

    great shot from pogba. so near.

  129. RedHound says:

    Pogba almost bends in a beauty

  130. CedarsDevil says:

    zelh

    Cheers for the updates…. Come ON you mighty reserved reds as it were, put them reserved bin dippers in their place!

  131. Captain Park says:

    Haha, Paul Parker, another great post on Bebe, love it!!

  132. zelh says:

    Cedars – you’re welcome mate.

  133. Costas says:

    @Zelh

    I know, but like Paul Parker said, it’s hard to prove. I remember hearing a story that Bebe was part of a package deal where CQ helped a United player pass a drugs test while he was managing Portugal. No doubt football isn’t as innocent as some people think it is, but it’s not always easy to identify the shenanigans.

    @Cedars

    Thanks mate. I am truly honored by that title. :P

  134. CedarsDevil says:

    James

    Mike and I were wondering where you were earlier…. Norwich was it not? Hope you’re enjoying them drums pal!

  135. Captain Park says:

    Thanks Cedars, cheers!! I’m enjoying Paul Parker’s posts particularly, he’s in top form! :)

  136. RedHound says:

    half time

  137. zelh says:

    Costas – Of course it’s hard to prove but quite plausible. Mendes gets money and suddenly we sign one of his protégés in form of de gea.

  138. FletchTHEMAN says:

    HT 0-0 MUFCReserves v LFC. LFC down to 10men Suso off for kick to face of Pogba. Still all to play for at MossLane. Best chances from Diouf and Pogba. Could be 1 or 2 up but LFC battling hard.

  139. kiccha says:

    so Paul parker is in great form ? ! some belting posts . .
    certainly enjoyed em :)

  140. Paco Rabane says:

    I don’t see Fergie as some Al Capone figure lol. Or, David Gill for that matter. If you’re trying to hide something, would you come out say(as Fergie did) that he hadn’t even watched the player? He could’ve kept quiet, or said the opposite. That he did see Bebe play, before signing the lad. Too much conjecture in the story, for it to be believable. For Bebe himself, i have my doubts he’ll make the grade at United. It doesn’t mean he won’t be successful at some other club. Good luck to the kid anyway.

  141. Captain Park says:

    By the way Cedars, some of you guys are like permanent residents here on these boards, posting so regularly. I definitely have a very loooooong way to go to be in your league.

  142. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Great catch from Craig Norwood:
    LFC official site for todays reserves game leave off the team at the top of the league. You guest it…. ITS US!
    http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/reserves

  143. kiccha says:

    pogba got a kick up his arse sorry, scratch that , face ? :lol: hope it woke him up ;)

  144. james21 says:

    Oxford and its wet and cold. Aparently snow is on the way to top it off. Roll on Sunday get that QPR beat or the doomlords will be all over here like a rash.

  145. CedarsDevil says:

    Captain Park

    That bugger Paul Parker (Poster not player, mind you always loved wee Paul on the pitch) is always in top form!

    Costas

    Any new medical team theories of late? hahahaha

  146. Paul Parker says:

    Steady on lads, wouldn’t say i’m on form!? Cheers all the same.

  147. smartalex says:

    JC – Great link, thanks! Loving this Scholes interview!

  148. CedarsDevil says:

    James

    Ah so its Oxford then, I will blame it on that ankle injured Mike for the wrong info. hahaha

    Captain Park

    Its not about the number of posts my friend but more about being genuine and a true red and you seem to fit both categories

  149. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Yeah. I hear they are getting ready to take care of your treatment. Knowing how much faith you have in them, I am pretty sure you are not crapping your pants right now. :lol:

  150. Costas says:

    Ha! Paok hold Rubin Kazan to a 1-1 draw and as a result Harry gets dumped out of Europe. :)

  151. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Hahaha you are such a piss take, just pissed my self buddy!

    So the Totts are out?

  152. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Second half on the way Gibson off with a knock, Lingard sub

    Goalllllll UNITED 0-1 up

  153. Captain Park says:

    Cedars,

    Thanks mate for the kind compliment and words of encouragement! :)

  154. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Think it was off Paul Keanes head!

  155. FletchTHEMAN says:

    sorry Will Keane

  156. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Yeah they are out. Got what they deserved. They treated this with more arrogance than we treated our Ch.League group. What this means now is that Rubin Kazan is added in our list of possible opponents. I think we will have to be a bit lucky in the draw to avoid any long travels.

  157. Mikekelly12 says:

    Evening all. Ha ha…Norwich, Oxford, same fucking thing, both wear yellow font they?! I blame it on the pain killers, got fuckin loads wrong today as Cedars the red meat chomping legend well knows. Deep fried kebab next on the menu?!
    Paul Parker – sorry mate, I asked you a question earlier then had to fuck off before replying to your response. I must say you put a very good case forward. Jury still out for me re Bebe, but I think a lot of people expected more as a fee was involved than they would of someone coming through the ranks. Not right I know but think that may be a reason for people’s remarks? As for Ronnie’s first 7 games, don’t remember them all but was there for his debut off the bench against Bolton I think and he was amazing. Got people off their seats.

  158. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Jesse Lingard !!!!!! 0-2 United Reserves

  159. zelh says:

    lingard with the second.

    2-0

  160. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Cheers pal…… Any Greek or Cypriot team we can draw? I would happily swim across to watch the lads…

    Excuse my ignorance, not much of a follower of continental football

  161. Paul Parker says:

    @Paco – im not convinced Bebe will make it here either mate, but I don’t think he’s had a fair appraisal. Take away all the negative hype and his debut season aged 20 wasn’t actually that bad imo. Thats the only point im trying to make with Bebe, his 7 game career hasn’t been as bad as is made out.

  162. Mikekelly12 says:

    Costas
    Read an article this morning where Harry was saying we weren’t good enough to win the Europa league!! Hahahaha!! Old melted face deputy dog fool!!

  163. samuel - united WE stand says:

    diouf still plays in the reserves, shows he ain’t improving much, i think he’ll be off at the end of the season.

  164. JC says:

    Youre welcome my man…

    Will Keane looks a man among boys in almost every reserves match I’ve watched. He’s really quite a prospect no?

  165. CedarsDevil says:

    We love you Mikey we do, we love you Mikey we do, we love you Mikey we do

    Ooooooh Mikey we love you

    Get the fuck stuck in

    Stretty > SAF Stand Can’t help it pal

  166. zelh says:

    Will Keane is great. that’s why for me there’s no future for Macheda.

  167. dazbomber says:

    The Liverpool right back looks like plug from the Beano

  168. dazbomber says:

    That’s one for the older lads

  169. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Davide Petrucci on Macheda off. Come on David!!!

  170. Mikekelly12 says:

    Cedars Cedars, who the fuck is Cedars??!!
    Comma comma comma comma comma United Road, United Road, United Rooooooooad!!
    Will Keane > Torres

  171. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    It’s ok. I know very little about these teams too. Just looking at the group tables and trying to figure out who we might draw. No Greek or Cupriot teams unfortunatelly. 2 Greek teams will be in the same pot as us. The closest teams we could face from the Mediterranean area are Udinese and Lazio.

    @Mikekelly

    Yeah, because we were already eliminated from one European competition. Why the fuck did he care anyway? It’s not like he took the EL seriously. I said this earlier today, but I am waiting for the day where I’ll wake up and I won’t see the words “Harry Redknapp interview to follow” on twitter. The moron is all over Skysports.

  172. dazbomber says:

    That makes me think , must get my comics on e bay .

  173. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Why is it that the reserves can wear snoods? Hansen (LFC Reserve Keeper) wearing one for LFC Reserves? Thought they were banned by the FA as dangerous?

  174. Saad says:

    @JC

    Of all the young players, Scholesy had the most glowing comments about Will Keane. That’s enough for me! I am so hoping this kid turns out to be a star for us.

  175. dazbomber says:

    Pogba fucking hell what a shot

  176. zelh says:

    dear me what a fucking shot from pogba onto the post.
    and right after that nice chip over the defence into keane who puts it into the sidenetting.

  177. CedarsDevil says:

    Boy George >>>. Torres

  178. Saad says:

    @FletchTheMan

    Wouldn’t want them young padawans catching pneumonia now, would we? Where’s your fatherly instincts??? :P

  179. dazbomber says:

    3-0

  180. JC says:

    clever finish from diouf, what a pass from M Keane…

  181. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Diouf 3-0 Nice turn!!!!

  182. TonyBee says:

    What’s big and tastes like penis?

    My secretary’s Christmas bonus.

  183. TonyBee says:

    Ho Ho Ho

  184. Utd4life says:

    Its 3-0 now. Diouf scores.

  185. CedarsDevil says:

    dazbomber

    What the fuck pal? We beating them dippers 3-0?

  186. Saad says:

    @Mikekelly

    I’m kinda sad that Fulham and Spurs got knocked out. Would’ve made the Europa League more interesting for us. Not at all psyched about going to Legia, PAOK, Plezn, Krakow, whatever whatever. Don’t really want United making these long trips two days before the Premier League weekends.

  187. Saad says:

    The younglings are avenging their masters.

  188. zelh says:

    diouf with the 4th!
    almost a copy of the former one.

    nice pass from pogba.

  189. Paco Rabane says:

    CedarsDevil – LOL. Boy George! So true. ;)

    @Paul Parker

    That’s the media for you mate. Bebe has been targeted by the daily mail since he signed for us. Cunts of the highest order.

  190. FletchTHEMAN says:

    4-0 Diouf brace. MUFC Reserves!

  191. JC says:

    Diouf benefiting from some wonderful passing but I will say he is finishing well.

  192. dazbomber says:

    4-0 it look exactly like the 3rd

  193. Utd4life says:

    4-0. Diouf scores again. Assist from Pogba.

  194. Captain Park says:

    Let’s make it a 5-star performance, make it 5-0 boys, COME ON UNITED!!!

  195. Paul Parker says:

    Mikekelly12 – I was impressed with Ronaldo’s debut as well, but I also remember most people slagging him off for his step-overs. Same thing with Nani, he looked a good prospect to me first season but many said he was utter crap. Now he’s possibly our best player.

    I think your on the right track re Bebe’s fee. Everybody expected more than a homeless Winger when we sold Ronaldo. He’s had to deal with that but the over the top slagging off is dumb. If he’s shit whats Kiko? Ask me the jurys out on both players, but neither is shit.

  196. Captain Park says:

    I don’t care whether it’s the 1st teamers, the reserves or the academy, I just want us to give them a thrashing every time.

  197. JC says:

    So if the reserves win 5-0 do they get to walk off the pitch holding up 5 fingers?

  198. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Saad Cheers mate. Just the LFC lad, not anywhere to be seen on the United lads. DarthScholes?!

  199. Saad says:

    FletchTheMan

    United boys probably get their fashion training at Rio’s house, or from his magazine.

  200. dazbomber says:

    CedarsDevil-No matter what the kind of game it is it’s great beating Liverpool

  201. Saad says:

    @JC

    Nah, I’d be happy for them to show the middle one or two, depending on their cultural preference.

  202. Saad says:

    Celtic scoring away from home. Who’da thunk it??

  203. JC says:

    But I thought that was a friendly gesture in certain South American countries??

  204. Saad says:

    Dont seem as though Birmingham City will make it through either coz they need Braga to beat Club Brugge and Braga are down to 10 men already.

    Phoodoo!

  205. Costas says:

    Diouf is on fire!

    As for the draw, we could also get drawn against Celtic if they beat Udinese tonight…

  206. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Captain park – concur with your words mate. Liverpool at any level i really cannot stand, even their are ingrained with arrogance.

    I’ve said it on here several times, if will keane goes on loan and come back stronger with experience, he’ll give our current strikers a good go for their money.

    Pogba is playing well, any sulking from him to show he might be off?

  207. Paul Parker says:

    @Saad – no, Thomas Cleverley is the new media mogul and fashion house on the block.

    His new website is verrrry snazzy, puts Rio’s 5 mag to shame :lol:

  208. Saad says:

    JC

    LOOOL!!! Nice! Anybody got Gus Poyet’s email address?

    Berlusconi: Tevez could win Ballon d’Or at Milan.

    Berlusconi’s shite working better for me than coffee at 2:45am.

  209. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Costas – only if he could transform that into the first team. I don’t wanna bust the bubble but obertan was like rui costa in the reserves but played like gromit while in the first team.

  210. Mikekelly12 says:

    Love beating the scousers at anything !!

    Saad – Get where your coming from with the travelling but in all honesty couldnt give two fucks about Fulham or Spurs!!

  211. smartalex says:

    I really enjoyed that 2nd half. Against 10 men, but we hammered liverpool and saw some recently-maligned youngsters playing well. Pogba nearly broke the post. Good work United!

  212. dazbomber says:

    Samuel – United WE Stand – Pogba he’s the man of the match for me

  213. Captain Park says:

    samuel – united WE stand, my dislike for them has gone up several notches because of the way they’ve come out in support of Suarez and questioned Evra’s integrity.

  214. FletchTHEMAN says:

    FT MUFC Reserves 4-0 v LFC Reserves.
    First half Sosa sent off for LFC after boot to face of Pogba.
    Second half goals from WKeane, Lingaard Diouf Diouf.
    Top of the League!

  215. Captain Park says:

    We didn’t get the 5-0 score I wanted, but 4-0 is good enough for me, puts them bin dippers in their place hahaha!!! :) :):)

  216. Saad says:

    I was glad when Suarez again got into hot water regarding that incident where he showed rude gestures to the crowd. His true nature is becoming ever more apparent.

  217. Paul Parker says:

    @Samuel, if Pogba is off it won’t be until 2013. Can’t see us being forced to sell him by anyone, Alex has specific plans for that lad and doubt he went through all that hassle signing him just to let him go to Italy. i’ll be shocked if he’s not here next season.

    Pogba for MOTM? Not a bad match from all the lads, Keane is developing into a proper striker, and Diouf keeps scoring for the reserves. Everybody played well except Kiko really, and thats only due to his first team experience. Hope he sorts his head out in January.

    To top this victory off all we need is that Suarez verdict in bright and early! Laters RoM.

  218. Saad says:

    Ji Sung Park’s buddy makes a mess of it against Udinese.

  219. smartalex says:

    2 minute Ole Gunnar Solskjaer interview
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16207971.stm

  220. Costas says:

    @Samuel

    Can’t see how Diouf will have enough chances in the first team to make that sort of impact. If I remember, we had a discussion at the start of the season about why everyone was writing Diouf off. There’s just too many strikers. He got a game or two back in 2010 when we just had Roon, Berba and Owen. Now it’s twice as hard. And you can’t show your worth by playing 1 games every 2 months. That goes for Kiko as well. But who knows? If Diouf keeps playing like this for the Reserves, he could be one of the strikers that’s here at the start of 2012-2013.

  221. Paco Rabane says:

    Beating the vermin at tiddly winks would give me a buzz. Well done the young turks! :P

  222. smartalex says:

    Two of the most experienced brains in British football recently went head-to-head at Manchester United’s training ground – with hilarious results.

    Sir Alex Ferguson and his longest-serving player Ryan Giggs squared up in a trivia contest to be screened exclusively on MUTV this Sunday, 18 December in The Big United Quiz. The boss was flanked by two members of his medical team – assistant head physio Neil Hough and club doctor Steve McNally – while Giggs was joined by his United team-mates Jonny Evans and Wayne Rooney.

    http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2011/Dec/ryan-giggs-takes-on-sir-alex-ferguson-in-mutv-big-united-quiz.aspx

  223. samuel - united WE stand says:

    paul parker – i agree. i think it would be a huge smack in the mouth if pogba was to leave us high and dry.

    every manchester united fan have watched him developed with the rest of our talented youths, he is potentially a top player no question about that, i think Fergie knows that and he won’t let some toe-rags try nick him after all the efforts put in to get him.

    Is he ready to start regularly for the first team? probably not yet, however he needs games in the first team to develop, the europa league might be a good place for that but i hope those greedy agents don’t mess it all up by telling him he can double his wages and play more, he’d be stupid to do that because Fergie is the master at developing youth. As you say, he has until 2013, maybe a new deal might be signed by then.

    Captain park – exactly mate, it would be interesting to see what the FA do about this issue.

  224. smartalex says:

    Match report (from some strange website, must be new.)
    Reserves: United 4 Liverpool 0
    http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2011/Dec/manchester-united-v-liverpool-reserves-report.aspx

  225. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Costas – i agree, maybe he ain’t getting enough games to fully show his worth. Fergie likes him as a player clearly as he always includes him in the future of united, maybe he needs another loan spell or something but one thing is for sure, he needs to grasp any rare chances given to him, performances like against crystal palace don’t help. We’ll see what happens with him.

    Macheda again was disappointing, his confidence must be shot after watching across and seeing welbeck who he was with in the youth system develop and break into the first team. Lets not forget welbeck was the one being touted to leave at some point but the boy knuckled down, worked on his game, went sunderland and performed well and is now a better player for it. Macheda can take that and use it as an inspiration to get into the first team, that of course depends if he hasn’t been sold already but if it’s a loan spell then he needs to get out there and do what danny did because chances won’t be that plenty, will keane is probably already breathing down his neck.

  226. wayne says:

    KE I love you mate but to suggest Sir Alex and Utd were part of a laundering scheme is pretty silly mate doesn’t make any sense at all

  227. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Vote Best EPL GOAL http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/poll/2011/dec/15/greatest-premier-league-goal-ever-poll?

    My vote:
    Wayne Rooney, Man Utd v Man City 2010-11 for me. Best team goal and execution to win a game.

    Runners up
    Cantona v Sunderland 1996-97
    Giggs v QPR 1993-94

  228. Costas says:

    From manutd.com. Potential Round of 32 opponents:

    Trabzonspor
    Ajax
    Porto
    Viktoria Plzen
    Hannover 96
    Legia Warsaw
    Lazio
    Red Bull Salzburg
    Steaua Bucharest
    Wisla Krakow
    Lokomotiv Moscow
    Rubin Kazan
    AZ Alkmar
    Braga
    Udinese

    @Samuel

    As much as we cherish that Macheda goal against Villa, I have to agree with those that say that it’s also what held him back afterwards. It seemed to fool a lot of people about how prepared he really was to break through and I think it confused Kiko himself. Hence, he hasn’t made the progress he could have. Welbeck missed the opportunity to become a hero on that same day and it’s only been upawards for him after that. I hope Macheda gets a loan move that will ensure a decent run of games. Imo he’s really talented and it would be a shame if he didn’t make it.

  229. Saad says:

    Europa League R32 teams:

    4 from Netherlands
    3 each from England, Spain, Portugal and Belgium
    2 each from Germany, Russia, Greece, Turkey, Italy and Poland
    1 each from Austria, Czech Rep., Ukraine and Romania.

  230. Saad says:

    I hope we’re always drawn second second so that we get the second leg at home.

  231. zelh says:

    I hope the reserve gets a run of games in the EL.
    Couldn’t care less if we go out or get into the final.

  232. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Here is my best effort at the distances

    Ajax 862 km
    AZ Alkmar 900 km
    Hannover 96 1141km
    Viktoria Plzen 1153 km
    Legia Warsaw 1563 km
    Wisla Krakow 1564 km
    Red Bull Salzburg 1621 km
    Udinese 1924 km
    Lazio 2211 km
    Braga 2318 km
    Porto 2344 km
    Lokomotiv Moscow 2550 km
    Trabzonspor 2692 km
    Steaua Bucharest 2871km
    Rubin Kazan 3235 km

    Shortest would be Holand obviously. Thursday Late, then weekend EPL, don’t want to be slogging out to Turkey.

  233. FletchTHEMAN says:

    The distances are from a driving tool (GoogleMaps). The Dutch games would be shorter by air but the others are fairly accurate.

  234. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Twitter going nuts claiming that United have offered 30 million Euros for Benfica’s Nicolas Gaitan

  235. Paco Rabane says:

    Great source of information. ;)

  236. Costas says:

    Cheers Fletch. Alkmaar it is. :)

  237. Costas says:

    How apropo that someone called Fletch would be covering the distances portion of our EL draw. ;)

  238. Paco Rabane says:

    I wouldn’t mind getting Ajax. It’s close by, and a chance to scout Eriksen as well.

  239. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Costas. I live to serve mate!

    RE the Gaitan story, this is the only news source so far. It is in Portuguese.
    http://www.ole.com.ar/futbol-internacional/Palos-bolsa_0_609539357.html

    I make out that Benfica gets 30M and Boca will get about 20% as a pass on fee.
    Says that United are the only ones to make a formal approach so far.

  240. Fred says:

    Welcome to Manchester United, Gaitán. 8)

  241. Warwick says:

    Intersting Mr Bond. Ve-ry inter-esting

  242. King Eric says:

    Great result for the lads albeit against ten men. I have slated Pogba a bit of late but he was fucking top drawer tonight and will be knocking on the door if he keeps the form he showed tonight up. Once again Kiko was awful. Lazy. Poor touch. Weak. Conceding foul after foul. Was hauled off after an hour or so. Keane is superb. Great player and finisher although he should have buried that great dinked pass over the top from Pogba. Seconds prior Pogba smashed the post from thirty yards and nearly uprooted the goal posts. Four nil. Take that you scouse cunts.

  243. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Continued misinformation about Evra history.

    This is an interesting piece about how Liverpool owners might view Suarez if he is found guilty.
    But it ends on a sour note for me. Yet again alleging that it was Evra who made allegations against the Chelsea ground staff when Evra actually declined to comment about the entire affair as he was to far to hear it. Anyone should try to contact Chris Wheeler to set him straight.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2074782/Luis-Suarez-sweating-Patrice-Evra-race-row-verdict.html?

  244. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Here is the old ROM piece that on Evra allegations that has an excellent summary of the Chelsea incident.

    http://therepublikofmancunia.com/how-patrice-evra-has-never-played-the-race-card-and-why-assumptions-are-dangerous/

  245. King Eric says:

    No regarding Bebe it was all red issue and uws. Not saying they are bang on but often pretty close. Not laundering as such but just giving Mendez a backhander and getting Bebe in the process. Why would Fergie buy someone he hasn’t even seen? Bebe is nowhere near Ronaldo when he played against Bolton on his debut and one of his goals took a huge deflection. He seemed a good lad but I think its obvious he is never a United player. My money is on we never see him again. Usually when a loanee gets injured they come back to United. Is he still out in Turkey? I may get slated for this but I rarely slag players.

  246. five says:

    I am afraid I agree with King Eric, nothing personal against Bebe and i wish him all the best but it just reeks off United making Jorge Mendes happy in order to get first dibs on some of his future clients

  247. Dave Malaysia says:

    @wayne: Sorry to hear about yr situation. Everything will work itself out, karma dude. Important that
    u dont stress out and clog anything. Stay healthy dude.

    @Cedars’Puddytat” : Red meat? was it Tom or Jerry?

    @James21: Nice thing u did for Cedars, now how about a poster that says ‘wave Hayley Mcqueen’
    I bet no one will ask ‘ who dat or who da fuck dat?

    Well today Friday the 16th, is going to be interesting, very interesting.

    1) Fergie speaks about Fletch,Vidic developements after Mondays doc appmt, Evra verdict if its out,Europa and etc.

    2)The Evra -suarez verdict.

    3)Europa league draw.

    4)Whois avaliable for Sunday.

  248. 68Devils says:

    @wayne

    She would be very happy to know that you loved her very much.

    @cedars

    May each day bring you renewed strength and brighter times..take care freind.

  249. soren says:

    @King Eric
    I agree with you about Bebe.
    Villa out for 6 months, great player. I loved him in World Cup, (my team was Spain La furia roja) but I don’t liked in the Champions ha ha

  250. soren says:

    @68Devils Nice words.

  251. 68Devils says:

    Thanks soren…nice to have you back

  252. Zibbie says:

    Paul P an Sammy, Pogba can sign what is called a pre-contract with any club on Jan 1st 2112 and after that and move their in the summer. Thus all the stories. He can leave this coming summer because he is so young or some thing like that,

  253. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Zibbie – Fergie will try his utmost best to put a stop to that surely? we’ve heard rumours upon rumours but the manager ain’t said much on it, granted that ain’t helping us as fans to know what’s going on but i hope we’ll soon witness pogba signing a new deal.

    Losing at this stage would be a blow, he wants games but sir alex wants to gradually bring him through, if he had any brains on him then he’d listen to the grand old master. This could however be about his wages but he has done nothing to warrant the cash he is demanding, i sense that the agent is behind this, but lets all remember that these are all rumours so far despite how persistent news on him keeps coming up, lets be positive and hope behind the scenes things are going to be fine.

  254. soren says:

    @68Devil Thanks, take care.
    @Zibbie Good night

  255. CedarsDevil says:

    68Devils

    Many thanks for your kind words my friend…..

    So sad that I missed soren here earlier, sweet dreams my love

  256. CedarsDevil says:

    Just over 52 hours away from kick off!

    Morning all

  257. CedarsDevil says:

    Bit of a slow morning on RoM, or it could be that people actually have things to do unlike this sad fuck!

    Anyhow, I went out for my morning walk earlier and ran into this kid from the neighborhood who was wearing a jacket with the United crest on it….. Being a nosy bugger I asked him if he supported United….His response was no I don’t? I said well that crest on your jacket…..He said its my brothers’…

    So do you like football and who do you support then was my question…..He then said I support Barca for Messi and Real for Ronaldo

    I just started laughing and walked away which made the poor kid look at me as if I was mad!

    Football is with out doubt the most popular sport in the world but it seems that football support really varies…… I could never imagine my life without United, for everything they have given me over the years. I am both blessed and honored to be associated with this wonderful club…

    United are my life, I live for Maya and UNITED

  258. jim says:

    @Cedars.
    These lines are for you:
    If there a million United fans i am one of them.
    If there are 10 United fans be sure i am one of them.
    If there are no United fans be sure i will no longer be alive.

  259. CedarsDevil says:

    jim

    Nicely put! Where have you been?

  260. jim says:

    Cedars,
    Travelled a lot lately, not missed a single match though. More than the CL exit its Fletchers illness that hurts a lot, get well soon fletch.

  261. CedarsDevil says:

    jim

    Totally agreed my friend, that illness put things in perspective and as I said before I would rather Fletch be up and running again then United winning nothing for 5 years

  262. 68Devils says:

    cedars

    Morning pal hope all is well. I guess the choices we make in life dictates the kind of life we live. You wrote sometime back that united is more than a football club to you. Its an institution,a way of life,your way of life.This was just after basel and those words filled a lot of holes in our souls that day.
    I know it did mine.

  263. jim says:

    Cedars.
    Yes it does, just seeing Fletcher in United colours you always know that you are going to get 100% each time he steps on the field, top player.
    68devils,
    got to say your posts have been top quality, and Cedars is that kind of supporter who will never lose faith.

  264. CedarsDevil says:

    68Devils

    Really glad those words inspired you my friend…. I am getting better and thanks for asking.

    United are indeed much more than a football club

  265. dela says:

    Morning ROM. Morning Cedars.

    This sad fuck has nothing to do either. I envy the people who actually have places to go to on a Friday morn. I really do.

    Here I am sitting and watching highlights of last night’s Reserves game. It is times like these that make me realize how empty my life would have been, had it not been for United.

    And what is with all this Gaitan talk? Haven’t seen much of him, but isn’t he a winger?

  266. authenticautographsjust4u says:

    Lee Martin is a legend, he helped us start on the fantastic run of winning trophies. I have met him a few times at Old Trafford and he is a real gent.

    GET WELL SOON FLETCH

  267. 68Devils says:

    jim

    thanks pal

    cedars

    you are most welcome

  268. dela says:

    Great posts, Jim and 68devils.

    Thank you. Made my morning.

  269. jim says:

    @Dela
    Gaitan played as a winger against us but heard he can play CM as well. Not sure how effective but he does pass the ball quite well.

  270. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning dela

    Still in Bahrain pal?

  271. 68Devils says:

    Thanks dela

  272. smartalex says:

    King Eric

    Your views and your approach to United are above reproach, yet I hereby express my disapproval and disappointment for your 19:15 comment that Bebe was “an absolute smoke and mirrors job to launder money through Mendez. Simple as that.”

    My apologies sir, but that statement is absolutely wrong on several counts.

    Sir Alex is not guilty of partaking in a criminal conspiracy that WOULD defraud the HM Revenue & Customs, the Portuguese Ministry of Finance and the Glazers; as well as betraying Bebe, all the United players, Manchester United and all the fans.

    I do realise that these conspiracy theories excite, and last year I too was alerted by these scurrilous claims. Any depth of investigation reveals immediately the unlikelihood of truth behind these guesses that there was impropriety. Dig a little deeper and it is patently obvious that these claims are mischief-making at best, and vicious slander in effect.

    I have had this discussion with United fans, ABU fans, football fans, fraud police and 2 lawyers. Be clear, there are far, far easier and safer ways to launder money than creating a big news story that remains in the glare of public and media scrutiny and then performing your fraud so openly.

    No sir, there is zero truth to the conspiracy theory. Please, if I may be so bold, withdraw your casual remark, and recognise publicly its folly. Your tremendous love, support and understanding of United is unwittingly tarnished by that expressed, though unconsidered opinion.

    You don’t think Sir Alex has sinned against United, or deserves jail for fraud, so I know that you didn’t think it through. Looking forward to your recognition that both you and I know Sir Alex is guilt-free, and that we’re still good mates! However, if I’m missing something here, let me have both barrels, I forgive you in advance!

  273. smartalex says:

    Good morning RoM!

    Cedars-me-old-Devil – may I suggest that you enlist the services of the contributor who posted at 9:12 on this thread? Arsenal are very slowly creeping up the table.

  274. Mikekelly12 says:

    Morning All
    The only place I have to go later is the hospital. Missing my Christmas party but hey ho, ankle is priority at the moment.
    Gaitain…. I’m pretty sure he’s a winger but can play centrally. He set up Jones for their opener!! They’ve been watching him for over a year and Sir Alex sent his bro so must be serious! Anyway, after the whole Schneider debacle I’ll take all rumours for what they are. Personally I thought the best player on the pitch during the Benfica games was Aimar.

  275. smartalex says:

    Aimless also played a big role.

  276. smartalex says:

    Let’s not play the Aim-game, it’s pointless.

  277. smartalex says:

    Je t’aime Mikekelly12, I’ve sent a you dozen roses, one each.

  278. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning Monkey & smartalex

    smartalex – I am very sure that King Eric was just taking the piss my friend. I know him too well

  279. Mikekelly12 says:

    Smartalex
    You are too kind I will pass one to each of me right away.
    Cedars
    Good morning fella. One wonders where these stories of brown envelopes in darkened doorways eminate? I too heard these rumours regarding Bebe. Probably the most damning of all the evidence is as Smartalex correctly (in my opinion) surmises, there are far more low profile methods of laundering money than through the purchase of a homeless guy who you’ve never seen play before.

  280. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    I have no doubt in my mind that its all utter crap and again I will stress that King Eric was just taking the piss, he did the same yesterday on Robbo….. Just having a laugh he was

  281. smartalex says:

    CedarsDevil – I had exactly that knowledge after his 19:15 comment. He’s messing around. Later, I thought differently, as at 1:04 he added more to the discussion instead of delivering a punch-line.

    It’s all good, simply a view that hasn’t taken into account all the ramifications.

    For it to actually be true, and proven, the outcome is a disaster. Sir Alex gone, and I mean gone to prison. United docked many points for the next 3 seasons. Enough to just about put us into League 1. Make no mistake, defrauding HM revenue in a collaborative conspiracy that also defrauds several other parties and hundreds of millions of people, attracts a mandatory jail sentence. Twenty years, I’d guess.

    This is why I know that King Eric, and other close friends of mine in the physical world, have not thought it through. No one I know loves and understands United better than King Eric. Fuck man, I love our King Eric. I know he’s a bright beacon amid the storm of abu’s and plastics. No big deal here, just insufficient consideration of the bigger picture.

  282. CedarsDevil says:

    smartalex

    I can of course only speak for my self my friend but I am sure King Eric will come on and explain his point.

  283. Mikekelly12 says:

    King Eric
    Keeping my fingers crossed for your arrival tomorrow pal.

  284. CedarsDevil says:

    Is it tomorrow? Fuck me

    All the best Neil, hope the Mrs has a smooth birth pal and do cherish holding the wee fella for the first time

  285. smartalex says:

    All the best King Eric, proud Red father-to-be! Good luck, and God bless the three of you!

  286. Paul Parker says:

    @King Eric – easy mate, right I see your point. There are different rumours, some have Alex and CQ splitting the fee that Mendez received from the Club, which is daft. Our manager makes a 7 million salary and tens of millions in stud fees from his horses. The idea of him going through a fake transfer to split a poxy 3.6 million with Mendez and CQ is daft. But the idea of United listening to Mendez regarding Bebe to keep the agent sweet makes sense. Thats pretty much how most players are signed – agents known for finding top talent tout the “next big thing”, and then convince Clubs to buy the player in return for first refusal on the next “next big thing”.

    Bebe’s contract with Mendez was dodgy anyway, so wouldn’t be surprised if we signed him to keep the agent sweet, but dodgy deals for unknown players are the norm thats why i don’t mind players like Pogba (or Vidic) getting what their worth – they could just as easily be ripped off by agents and clubs.

    No, all im saying about Bebe is I don’t doubt that he will be given every chance to become a United player now he’s here. I don’t believe Alex has signed him with no attention of possibly keeping him. All the stuff Alex has said about him in interviews, I don’t think that was bullshit to hide what would basically be a crime. Of course, if Bebe isn’t good enough for UTD he’ll be sold but I don’t think that decision has already been made mate, thats what we disagree on. We’ll soon see what UTD really have in store for him, but I’d be absolutely amazed if Bebe’s potential had nothing to do with us signing him, because the lad has potential. 2 goals in 7 is decent for any 20 year old winger with no experience – even if one was a deflection – one of Kiko’s 6 in 50 was a handball ffs, nobody begrudges him for it. Call me an optimist but I think Alex will give Bebe a fair go pal.

  287. Paul Parker says:

    @KE – All the best this weekend pal!

    @Samuel – As long as he keeps playing like he did last night he’ll be fine. From what we’ve seen this season Morrison and Fryers are the pick of the bunch, they look more prepared for EPL (and Europe) but Pobga doesn’t look too far behind, and he’ll get games. Would be class if Morrison gets minutes on Sunday.

  288. Captain Park says:

    Oh no, there’re some really hideous posts above about the Bebe transfer which I think has no basis at all. I have no factual knowledge of the deal so I’m not going into that area at all but I feel that unless one has concrete facts, such speculation has no place on these boards.

    By the way, Dave Malaysia, hi, which part of Malaysia do you come from, I’m from your neighbouring country. Singapore. I visit KL once or twice a year to call on my wife’s relatives.

  289. King Eric says:

    smartalex – Ha. Dont be silly pal, I consider you a good pal on here and always will despite our differing views and get where you are coming from. Like you say there would be easier ways of laundering money than a big tabloid story. I aint saying for one minute Fergie is a criminal. I stand by whatever I said about Bebe. Just very odd that we signed a homeless kid who was playing basically Sunday league football and had not being scouted. If anyone dodgy is in this it will be Mendes. Hey mate I am not above reproach, I am just like any other poster. Like I say I bet my mortgage we dont see him again. Furthermore like I say why hasnt he returned to United for treatment? A very odd deal pal. I stand my what I said BUT withdraw any assumptions fergie is a crook.

    Paul Parker – As above mate. Thanks alot pal.

    Mike and Cedars – Thanks alot lads. No sign yet . Come on! cheers again

  290. King Eric says:

    I will add however do you honestly think for one minute Fergie hasnt done owt dodgy in his tenure? Course he will have done as have most managers. Not laundering like.

  291. smartalex says:

    King Eric, I’m positive he’s done plenty! Especially things like lying to the world about Fletcher’s ills. Nothing wrong with it. I’m sure there are other incidents where many might not agree with the morals apparent. Probably even many juicy incidents (that we’d love, and the ABU would raise hell about). He’s not a saint, especially in the eyes of those completely dwarfed by his great and humble persona.

    I totally get that you don’t think he’s been part of some criminal event. I was keen for you to emphasise that, as i thought you would. Thanks for that! We can definitely say that the Bebe signing is quite unusual, and actually that is why it attracts these varying rumours/views depending on one’s intent.

    As to his prospects, I think that we must resist the temptation to assess his progress, when Sir Alex has specifically asked for time. Of course, I too am affected by what I see, but console myself with the stats (as provided by Paul Parker) and the blind trust in Fergie that we all often share. It’s not that he will become a top player, (I do happen to think he’ll have a good/very good career). iI’s that we should not even appraise his level or progress given our limited understanding of the route necessary to fast track a player that is miles behind nearly every other pro, in a very unique case.

    Okay, we can appraise, but we can’t be sure of our appraisal. We have to keep an open mind.

  292. authenticautographsjust4u says:

    Lee Martin is a Legend, he started our winning streak off, also he is a really nice guy to talk too, as met him at Old Trafford a few times.i

  293. smartalex says:

    Nice one authenticautographsjust4u, he seems that way from a distance, and it’s good to hear first-hand experiences that confirm it.

    ps Do your mates call you autha? Just kidding. So what’s the deal with autographs?

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