1. After several players talking about making amends for Saturday’s disappointment, we didn’t see any real urgency until the last 15 minutes. We’re still in the driving seat but a win last night would have put all the pressure on Arsenal and Chelsea today. Now they’ll be galvanised, knowing they can get closer to us with a win tonight, and a game against United yet to play. We didn’t put anywhere near enough pressure on their goalie and it’s so disappointing to look as though we had run out of steam with just a handful of games to go.
2. Ryan Giggs missing that sitter and then laughing seemed to sum up our attitude. This isn’t a Giggsy bashing time. It goes without saying what a legend he is, not just for his contribution as a lad, but for his great performances this season as a 37-year-old. But he should have been furious with himself for missing the opportunity to put us 1-0 up, not smiling about it.
3. It was confusing as to why Giggs was on the wing at all though, given that his best performances of late have come from the centre of the park and he’s admitted himself that he prefers a central role. With Park Ji-Sung and Antonio Valencia on the bench, why did the manager think Giggs would be most effective from the wing? Strange.
4. We weathered a storm at the beginning of the game, with Newcastle looking far more likely to score than us. The defence was solid enough but Evra yet again had an off game and John O’Shea doesn’t provide what Fabio would on the attack. I can’t wait for the season to end for Evra’s sake. He needs a summer off to get his head sorted.
5. The referee was a soft arse, giving away freekicks for any contact, but why didn’t our players cotton on to that sooner? Whenever there were two players challenging for the ball, the Newcastle player chucked himself to the floor as soon as he felt contact, and the ref gave a freekick every time. We gave away advantageous situations to our opposition time and again. Joey Barton can be dangerous from a set piece and it looked as though our players hadn’t been briefed on this at all.
6. With Wayne Rooney missing our FA Cup semi and previous league game, I was expecting a lot more from him. He tried hard, no doubt, but I thought he was going to boss the show but he played a peripheral role in what a disappointing night.
7. There were three penalty shouts and the ref got all of them right, regardless of what the managers say. Chicharito didn’t dive and booking him was ridiculous, but trying to look at the situations neutrally, I would have been annoyed if anything like that had been awarded against us.
8. Maybe this will be a point we’ll celebrate in May and I have total faith in us winning the league. I don’t expect United to win every game and I don’t expect us to always play well. But our performances on the road have been dire and it’s so frustrating to see this apparent shift in attitude away from home. Do we want this title lads? Yeh? Well now is time to bloody well show that!
Quick Reaction To Draw Against Newcastle…
April 20, 2011 444 Comments
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Just kidding.
I think Giggs laugh smile was ironic more than anything. There’s no way he was happy with himself at that point.
I agree about Evra though. Hopefully we will go through the rest of the season with him doing just about enough. But he hasn’t looked like the Evra of old for a while now.
Another point to take us one step closer to number 19. Keep the faith.
well said scott.
We were way to lax again. Watched the game twice and the final ball was missin from everyone. Didn’t think Rooney played that bad though. Besides Vidic He was our best player. Giggs’ head isn’t there….
Red Ratings: Newcastle United
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@ StR and Costas – Agreed about Evra, I’m actually a little worried about him, wonder if there is an underlying problem here. Thought he would’ve shaken these dodgy displays off but it just ain’t the Evra of old. I know he just signed an extension earlier but (and I know this is pure speculation) does anyone think we’ll be in the market for a left-back this summer? To stiffen up competition for places and moreover Evra?. I don’t think Sir Alex sees Fabio as a natural left back, well not at the moment anyway..
I said it a while back, and I’ll say it again, we don’t have to be brilliant, we just have to be better than the other teams. We put in a really good spell leading up to the City match, that was a shocker, and we kind of stumbled through this game, but it’s time get settled and press on.
The title race is not over, and there is no ‘nearly’ over. We are either Champions, or we are not. And until we are, or somebody else is, as I said before, we need everything from the players, staff and supporters.
I disagree about the 3 penalty shouts.
This is what annoys me. If you are going to turn down penalties when there is genuine and significant contact you are opening up a can of worms.
The tiote hand ball from 10 yards away with the hand above the face was a stonewall penalty.
Unfortunately by the time the media has dictated that only two decisions are worth talking about it becomes almost unacceptable to point out that actually there was another major incident in the game.
@ STR
please may I add a point no.9?
The fans
Absolutely superb from start to finish – what a shame they couldnt get such a deserving response from the team.
Not having that. Giggs was laughing in disbelief that he missed that chance.
Evra did very well to put that on a plate.
Three home wins will do it for us although one of those home games is against Chelski which was exactly the same tie that cost us the league last season.
We will drop points away again but then Arsenal will drop points too. Only fear is Chelsea that have four home games which they should win so it will be at OT where the title is decided again.
All a bit negative I know but after the last two games do you balme me?
This performcane has made me nervous…Everyone was hoping for a reaction, but we got a really dragged performance…I think the boys may need a pep talk…There is a need for some leadership now…We need to grind out some good performances…and not go down softly…Scotts reaction to penalty shout for Chicharito is correct…he did not dive neither was it a penalty…he certainly does not deserve a card…
Theres a possiblity we could win the league on the day of the FA cup final. What a way to spoils City’s day out. Again
By the way the handball in the box to me was a penalty. Is if its not hit from one yard away, the Newcastle player had time to avoid the ball something the ref again decided to overlook.
@Gorse Hill Red
I was wondering whether the FA Cup SF loss would be the start of our season going downhill similar to Arsenal a few weeks ago. United really needed a in yesterday. But Newcastle played well defensively. United seemed to be lacking ideas. Rooney seems to be doing most of the work. Think he needs some help from midfield because at times the game was so end to end we needed someone who could just hold the ball up for a bit and control the game.
Red Simmo
Good that someone noticed that as well.
No team in the world has a songbook like ours.
@Andykong
I love that scenario.
everyone has missed the clearest penalty of them all lol
it happened early in the second half and it was when we should of been given a corner but the ref gave a gk kick instead, the replay should a newcastle player handling the ball with both hands directly from a corner.
lovenkranks and chit were either both pens or neither so on that respect the ref out it right.
but if chit hadnt of tried to get out of the way of simpsons leg the contact would of been much clearer, as simpson doesnt even and try and move his leg out of his path.
What was the difference between the Simpson penalty shout for Hernandez last night, and the one given against Smalling against Chelski ??
i think it was great that this match was a draw
now we can win the title at emirates!!!!!
At this time of year its not about being entertained with 4-nil’s and 5-nil’s, its about pushing your Club over the finish line long after the wheels have fallen off. After all these El Classico games, even the “great” Barca and Real are gonna be shagged by the time they face United/Schalke in the final. All things considered United are in good shape. We’re not playing brilliantly, but like Doghouse said, thats not the primary aim. With 5 games to go in the League and hopefully 3 games in Europe, the primary aim HAS to be our Lads performing better than the other team on the day. Anything else is a bonus in April.
So look at our Strikers, Hernandez is in brilliant form, Rooney looks on fire, Berbatov will bounce right back to his best, and we have Owen fit and available. What more do you want? We have all the ingredients up front.
Look at our defence, solid as a fucking rock. in my opinion Evra’s getting back to his best, he was constantly beating his man and it was Evra who put two golden chances on a plate for Giggs and Carrick after great runs. I thought he played well. Smalling deputised for Rio brilliantly, who is in top form himself, and Captain Vidic was reliable and sturdy as ever. O’Shea also had a decent match and we’ve still got the Twins to return and Evans and Brown on the bench. We look very good at the back, and we’ve been conceding very few goals. Thats a good sign.
So if anything its a question of our MIDFIELD as usual, but all you have to do is cast your mind back to our 2-1 over City. Fletcher played, Scholes played, Anderson played, and they ALL put in a top performance in a 4-5-1. When Carrick came on he put in a top performance too, and obviously Giggs and Nani were top class as well. So when you think about how much was riding on that game, and how well we played, and when you think about our recent CL demolition of Chelsea home and away, that should tell you all you need to know about our options in Midfield. Right now we just need Fletcher back, Scholes back, the Twins back and Anderson to hit form again. Superstar Park is rested and ready to go. We’ve even got Gibson available…. considering theres no transfer window between now and Schalke, our Midfield really isn’t as bad as we all make out.
My point is basing our prospects on ONE away game after a disappointing Saturady result is a fucking joke. Especially as last night was our 3rd game in 7 days, and Toons first for over a week. Everton is the real test, and I can see us going into the Schalke tie full of confidence after it. But FFS, less of the doom and fucking gloom lads, it wasn’t long ago this same Squad took apart a very good Arsenal, City and Chelsea. Yesterday was a decent point from a difficult game. Saturday is the real judgement day.
fuck me that comment looks longer after posting it
WHAT ???
Terrific post mate
I assume Giggs played on the wings because he’s a natural winger. He likes playing in the middle and he does his job there well but that doesn’t mean he can’t function as a winger too.
The 19 th title is in sight but its not going to be easy,bloody hard work till the end of the season is needed,we were not right after Wembley but we will bounce back,some fans think its just a matter of turning up! but theres goin to be a few dramas to come yet.
At the moment, i’m thinking its a good point. It is a tough place to go, and it wasn’t a poor performance. We weren’t slaughtered by Newcastle or what, although they did play well. Not clinical enough. And at your point 2 Scott, i was thinking exactly the same thing when watching the game. i think he was exasperated that he missed such a good chance, then he ended up in a wry smile? sometimes these things get to you and makes you go bonkas.
I’m very confident about the title race. We do our job, we get the 19th. It’s in our hands, unlike the same period last season. Even the Boss seems calm. I think a home game is much required to get back to winning ways, and that’s what we’ll do on Sat.
And a little random, Vidic is an absolutely brilliant Captain. I think he’s been better than ever with this added responsibility, of course no disrespect to Rio. Very very vocal, and its so obvious now, whenever its before the game, corner, set piece, after half time. I’m really proud we have such a great defender and Captain, he encapsulates the word Rock very well. Legend.
And Berba did travel with the squad! That makes me a whole lot better.
In summary, I dont think we played any different from our usual standards this season. Newcastle are a decent side, and have a good record at home. Again, given the usual standard this season, i dont think we would have got more than 3-4 clear chances against such a team at their home ground. The difference is that yesterday, those chances werent taken – that’s all. The score could have been 3-0, (it could have been 3-3 or 0-3 either), but it ended up 0-0 bcos the chances werent taken. I dont think the team played below par, just happens. Move on…
Glad to see Scott acknowledge the away form. Our fans have been immense away and have only had 2 memorable comebacks to take from it. Have we won 2 away games on the bounce this season? Not trying to be negative but it is a serious concern of mine. Also the sooner the season is over the better for Evra, I think we can all agree he does look shell shocked compared to the previous 4 years. Personally I don’t even know what constitutes a free kick or a penalty anymore, brett1985 makes a good point about Tiote. It should have been a penalty, know its going back a few years but one was given against Carrick for exactly the same thing vs chelski at the Bridge in 2008.
It just shows how incredibly hard it is to compete on 3 different fronts. We are starting to look a bit tired now, which happened last year around the Munich games, when we drew with Blackburn and lost to Chelsea. On the game itself I thought, even though we looked flat at times, Newcastle had one of their better games.
Due to Arsenal dropping points at the weekend it means our draw last night takes us one game closer to the title with the same point advantage that we had on Friday. I still believe Spurs will take something off them tonight and I think Chelsea might become our nearest contenders.
Which leads to the Everton match being the biggest game this season. Lose that and we have to get results against Arsenal and Chelsea.
Jeet and What? – Spot on lads.
Agree with pretty much all of that…. and my initial thoughts last night was why O’shea was in that position instead of Da Silve (either) when they offer much more pace and quality going forward. O’shea is great utlitiy player and offers hieight against set pieces… however after 65/70mins at stalemate it would have made sense to bring on the nippy Brazilian!
Thought Rooney did quite well actually!
Not too surprising that we didn’t win when you consider that we haven’t won any away games against the current top 10. And we have one left against Arsenal.
@Notorious
Haven’t won 2 succesive away games in the league, but we’ve won 2 consecutive away games if you count all competitions.
C’mon guys, This is not the end of the world. I remember a few years back, we drew @ Blackburn with Tevez equalizing with the very last kick. These grounds are difficult, and while our away form has been shite, we knew it was going to be hard. After all, when was it that we didn’t have to suffer en route to winning anything?
Looking at the remaining fixtures… chelsea’s look easier. Now, assuming they win all 5 and draw @ OT, they will get to 77 points. Arsenal will surely drop 4-5 points more somewhere and I can’t see them getting more that 75-76 points.
That said, we can afford to lose @ the Emirates, draw @ Blackburn, and draw against Chelsea at home. And of course win agianst Everton and Balckpool. That would give us 78 points. Of course, the trickiest part fo all will be how are we going to respond next Sat against Everton and more importantly post-CL matches. Believe.
It is frustrating looking out for others to do us a favour, when we are good enough to win 19 ourselves if we just stepped up to plate and played our game!
Got to impose ourselves early and dictate the pace & tempo (even away from OT). Other quality sides are gonna enjoy spells of possession, which is fine just so long as we are controlled about it.
Throughout the season (especially away from home), have not felt confident that our midfield are up for task – too many players hiding and waiting for teammates to pull off a bit of magic!
The next 5 games will call for leaders and dictators all over the pitch;
As Doghouse says we dont have to be brilliant, but we need to turn up and compete at every game – Cant do the Hiding shit!!
Our full-backs will need to support and stretch the opposition more, so that means no early holiday for you Patrice (as much as you might need one!) – get your head on son!! and a grateful return for Rafael – we’ve missed your attacking energy!
Rooney cant take all the burden; His teammates need to give the opposition something to worry about. By stretching them and asking questions in other areas by other players, Rooney will naturally be able to find the little pockets of space, and this is when he is deadliest!
Costas and Alpha right about Giggsy, couldnt believe he’d missed and will be gutted with himself. Nevertheless, he still has my confidence, and I would back him to notch if faced with that situation again!
Ref last night was okay (at least consistant!), and in fairness our performance wasnt awful – just a bit flat and hesitant!
In summary, its not panic stations yet – We are still in control of our own destiny, But the time for hiding has passed!!
If you want to be part of a historic 19th, then turn up, compete, perform and stand up to be counted!!
It starts with Everton on Saturday, and my expectations are high!
@WHAT ???
Top post there mate, what I was thinking too.
Nobody answered my question from yesterday: Do you guys have any idea how many more games Owen needs to play for the winner’s medal. I think it was 4 before yesterday. It would be amazing for him to get that with us.
All in all, I would not say it is 2 points lost or 1 gained. But it was what was expected against a team that always performs well against us. With Arsenal playing Spurs today, we’ll see whether we’ve invited pressure on ourselves or will get away with it.
Also, people should not use yesterday’s performance as a benchmark for what will happen at the Emirates if that match does prove to be consequential. That game will be a 6-pointer, so the lads will turn up for that game.
@Balaji
Owen is on 8 league appearances. He needs one more and he is eligible for a medal.
@STR. re:point 2. in retrospect i’m glad he smiled, imagine if he had used a ‘naughty’ word…..!
Scott: ” I was expecting a lot more from him [WayneBoy]. He tried hard, no doubt, but I thought he was going to boss the show but he played a peripheral role in what a disappointing night.”
I completely disagree with you about this. From the off, WayneBoy was determined, energetic and focussed. I thought that in terms of “contribution” this was his best game of the season. It was one of those games in which it is apparent how much better TheLads are when he is in the side.
Like many of you, I am still disgusted by his October bargaining tactics, but it is evident that when he plays UTD are a better team. And, when he plays with Chicharito then there is a lot of spark in the attack, Just saying, like….
@ What???
I like the cut of your jib my friend
@Balaji don’t really get your logic there mate,utd win last night the chase is pretty well over so suggesting last nights game wasn’t as important as going to the emirates doesn’t make much sense to me,by drawing last night just puts alot of pressure back on themseveles.
i was away yersterday so didn’t go through all the comments on the other thread but just want to point out to all the berba bashers who got on his case again after the semi-final,there was clear cut chances missed last night by giggs,rooney and hernandez so unless you come out and talk the same shit about those 3 you’re all a bunch of hypocrites.
@Cedars and King Eric – Cheers Fellas
On Rooney I thought he was damn near outstanding, for attitude if not anything else. Some of the passes he was digging out, and runs he was making, it looked like he was enjoying himself at OT while the rest of the team were battling in Toon. Thats the Rooney I like seeing on the pitch, a Whirlwind of a player. Heres hoping he can keep it up till the Summer!
STR
I would not make too much about Giggs smiling after missing that sitter………. Was more of an ironic smile if you ask me. I am sure he was gutted
@Costas
@Balaj
The whole 10 game rule is stupid of this year for the over 21′s. As you have to pick a squad of 25. You’d think that those 25 would get a medal regardless of games played and the the under 21′s would have to meet a 7 game rule or something.
Its sad that instead of or Patrice, it’s his brother who’s playing for us right now, and his name is Patrick Evra. No where near Patrice though.
@ Costas – I thought players had to play 10 games to get a medal? If it is 8 then Wes Brown still has a chance! So far this we have gone all season in the league without registering 2 back to back away wins. Meaning if we don’t beat l’arse thats an entire season with no back 2 back away wins. Say what you want but that is astonishing for all the wrong reasons.
Giggsy was surprised, that Evra actually produced a decent cross for once. Seriously though, shocking miss by Giggsy. The effort was there, but we just lacked a cutting edge last night. A mini blip, but we’ll put it right on Saturday. Not easy going for 3 trophies.
@ 3/without/killing/anyone
Perhaps then that is why Ronan Giggs smiled after missing his sitter – probably thinking his brother might have stuck it in?
@Briggsy
It depends mate. I think the rule should be about 5 games instead of 9 or 10. But, there’s no harm in making 25 medals and handing them out. If someone has played 1 or 2 games, they have played their own part…
*instead of Patrice – im eating, sorry.
Will be Morrison playing tonight against the cockneys or is he still banned?
I thought Rooney along with smalling, carrick and Vidic were fantastic yesterday. If the rest of the team played with as much intensity as they played with yesterday , the scoreline would have been very different. I don’t give a fuck what happens today. It’s not about them. it’s about us. NEXT GAME….EVERTON!!!!
Where on earth is smartalex? We miss you buddy
The media can take Nasri, Bale and Wilshere and shove them up their hateful asses. At United we win where it matters. No 19 is around the corner, how will you deal with that Daily Fail?
Andy Townsend should retire from being an idiot pundit after this season, his hate has become a joke really
@King Eric – Cheers, mate! I dont think the lads played badly yesterday – we pretty much dominated for 70 min. Now keep in mind though, I said “our usual standards for this season”. Whether those standards are “world class”, Utd. class, best in class, etc. is a different debate. BUT, and it’s a big but, to go ballistic just because we had a 0-0 draw @ St. James Park with clear possession dominance and 3 clear chances, one out of 3 games in a week, is over the top, and frankly confuses the issue.
@Zelh
Heard Morrison and Pogba will start the match.
3/without/killing/anyone* – good to hear that. Will be a total different game with Morrison in Midfield.
Couple of things:
1) Defence wins championships. Full Stop. Our defence has been fantastic and is in blinding form. I’m not concerned about dropped points at St. James which many of our rivals (Arsenal 4-4 springs to mind) have found it difficult. Arsenal’s back four couldn’t stop a nose bleed and will cost them points coming down the stretch…especially if they play Eboooooue more often
2) The point takes us 7 clear. I’m chuffed that we’ve got our fate in our own hands versus playing catch up in the spring last season. We’re in the driver’s seat and that is exactly where we want to be. So what if we’ve got Chelsea and Arsenal to play. We’re United and we’ll do what we want!
3) I, like others, politely disagree with Scott about Rooney last evening. United’s man of the match for me. He was once again all over the pitch, energy, vision, making a nuisance. Thought he should’ve banged the one v one opp with his left but oh well, he still made Krool make a great save that apparently the referee and linesman felt went over the bar. If Chicha converts in the first 10 minutes, she’s an entirely different match. So fair play to Rooney, thought he did what he could last night and was still bussling about in the 94th minute, playing in what seemed like 3 different positions all night.
4) In games like that, we’ve got to get more direct. Trying to dink little through balls through defenders legs is difficult in the 1st minute, let alone the last. When we had them on the counter, far too often we gave away possession trying to make magic out of nothing. Get those balls to the flanks and fill the box. Win dirty if you have to, not every match winner’s going to be a scissor kick or 10 pass build up. With 20 minutes left, it was time to get direct, we failed to do that effectively and it cost us.
Full credit to the lads. Difficult place, difficult side to break down and we’ve been playing every mid-week since the int’l break. Get some rest boys, the run-ins upon us, we’ve got 19 by the scruff, time to dirty, time to get mean, time to bring home what’s rightfully ours.
UNITED!!!
@ Balaji. Definitely need to play in 10 games to get a medal unless special dispensation. Doesn’t matter if player starts or sub appearances. Certain players may struggle then.
Wayne – Berbatov’s miss, wasn’t the same as Rooneys and Hernandez mate. I take your point though. I think the people that complained about the Berb missing that chance, just don’t like him. All strikers miss easy chances. I’ve seen Rooney miss an open net and RVN missed a few sitters in his time. It happens, get over it lads.
@Red Simmo – Gotta kept the RED FLAG flying high mate, we’ve made it this far and now is no time to feel like a Rent Boy, a Scouser, a Bitter or a Gooner!
@RedRanz – Some will say its Red Tints mate, and yeah we’ve been poor away but the position the Lads have earned for themselves means thats all irrelevant now. We’ll be back on song at OT.
@ Denton Davey 12.46 – Spot on about Rooney. His movement, passing and overall industry was damn near brilliant last night. Which reminds me, it was also Evra who sent that lovely ball to Rooney in the first place for the Hernandez chance. He has been off since the WC but he’s definitely returning to his best and improving with each game. Thats important.
@willierednut too bad it was in the FA Cup SF. Against City, emotions were running high. I love him, no kidding, but just when we needed him to be clinical, he did that. Shit happens, move on.
As a Newcastle fan can I say the Penelties were all weak and not worth discussion. What I will say is the Man U fans were in good voice which made the game. Good banter after the game over a few beers. Good luck and I hope you win the title!
Martin
Big of you buddy……….. Cheers mate
All I will say is, lets not forget Chelsea in all this as SAF said. I really believed if we won last night the title was done and dusted. Now its just going to be a whole lot of squeaky bums on here for then next month or so. Good this is Arsenal and Chelsea playing today – I would rather know exactly what the points situation is, than assume that Arsenal and Chelsea will get three points…If Arsenal in particular drop points, I wouldn’t be too bothered about last night. For us the big game is still the Everton game this weekend – we bounce back and get a convincing 3 points on Saturday and we’re up and running again. IF we drop points, I’m going to start seriously looking over our shoulders…
Well let me say that carrick could have cost us the game again with the same mistake he has done against city, i can’t understand sir alex ferguson insistence of playing carrick when his creativity has long gone and past…
classy by martin – it was never going to be easy up in geordie land and we will just have to improve in our next game on saturday against everton. Hope spurs do us a favour mind.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this but there was a gray haired bloke who sat in front of Fergie, directly in front of Gill (obviously someone important as he had a good seat) – anyway he’s a prick!
He’d already annoyed me by standing up in front of the Gaffer when he returned from a half-time pint.
But when Owen came on and the Geordies were singing their Greedy Bastard song, old gray hair sang along briefly – then he had the bollocks to turn around and sing one line to Fergie who gave him a thunderous look – that shut him up quickly.
Reserve judgement untill after tonight, the only team I am worried about is Chelsea but if we take four points from the next two we can afofrd to lose to them as long as beat Blacnurn and Blackpool. Not a bad couple of games to have although anyone remember Blackburn away last year, as for me that is what cost us the league!
@Scholesy
Be fair mate Carrick has been good of late apart from the city mistake
Credit to Newcastle, they were good. This was a good point to win, and it was very striking how relaxed Fergie was afterwards. He knew the team had played well having weathered the initial Toon storm, even if the final ball was sometimes just off. I thought Evra was very alarming at times defensively but also a major attacking threat at other moments. He’s a real puzzle, that’s for sure. I thought Rooney had an excellent game, without much luck. Giggs looked preoccupied for some reason…The defence was generally terrific, but prone to moments of inattention and sloppiness. The communication between Smalling and Vidic still needs some work , but otherwise the two of them were good. The youngster really has been a terrific find this year. I was hoping Jonny Evans would get an outing to help his rehabilitation. He was once a great defender, even in top matches and it’s weird how his form has collapsed this year. As I’ve said before I wonder if it wouldn’t help all round if he played at left back for a while. He was good there for Norn Irelend.
I see Carrick has done his usual post-match ‘we’ll put it right next time’ interview. I just wish he’d do more to make it happen on the pitch when he’s said these things. Given how awful his mistake was against City, and how past such errors have seen his form and confidence collapse for weeks (months) I was quite relieved that he was OK last night, pushing forward more. It used to be said that if Paddy Crerand played well, United played well. The same is true with Carrick. We really need to get behind him now folks, bring the best out of him. At his best he pushes United to peaks of possession play and movement no-one else can deliver.
Talking of midfielders , Anderson was very hit-and-miss again. He’d undoubtedly benefit from a decent run in the first team, to regain form and fitness, but can we afford to give him that, at this crucial stage in the season? When he’s good he gives so much energy and drive, and a battling spirit, and has toughed it out with the likes of Fabregas in the past, and won. But it’s a huge risk. I guess Park will be saved for the Champs Lge, but when he’s not there the United energy levels drop, so does Fergie risk burning him out with Everton too? It all shows how we’re missing Fletcher, who was just beginning to get back to his best when he got his famous virus.
Berba is usually at his best at Old Trafford. I hope he’s not too ‘ill’ or too lacking in confidence after City to play against Everton. We should rotate him and Hernandez, and sometimes play both of them. It was clear after last night’s match how knackering the Newcastle players found the constant positional movement by United, Nani switching wings, Giggs moving inside, Rooney out to the left, etc etc. Another ten minutes and we’d have won, I’m sure.
As for the penalties, I think they were all legitimate claims. Ironically the one that the press ignored, the handball, was a definite in my book. Chiote raised his hands. No excuse. As for the Chicha Cheato tag, I think that’s unfair. When you see it at full speed you can see he was swaying to his right, Danny Simpson’s leg came out and blocked his way and he flew over . I think there was contact, I think it was a foul, but I can equally see that others might disagree. The Anderson one was also a reasonable shout. With all three incidents ‘I have seen them given’. Especially when Uniuted are playing Chelsea…
OMG can’t believe we’re still on the Carrick “issue”.FACT he has been doing the business for us in the middle of the park, no one else can play his role effectively and at the moment he’s all we’ve got. I say support the lad and the team because things could be a whole lot worse.
The city mistake aside the guy has been almost flawless, Fucking Durham was praising him on talksport the other day FFS, remember these are the ABU who are salivating over Wilshire ,bale and co. Yesterday’s disappointment is easy to explain, we didn’t take our chances, its happened before, it’ll happen again, GET OVER IT.
Giles Oakley says, Talking of midfielders, Anderson was very hit and miss again. Well Giles, he’s been that way, since he signed mate. I’ve been championing Anderson to get more game time lately. He must play an awful lot better, than last night, if he wants to earn a regular place in the team. To be fair to the lad, he can’t improve sitting on the bench. The manager needs to find a place for him, if we want to see the best of Anderson at United.
i’m getting kinda fed up with anderson…he’s been hot-cold ever since he got here..he’s not progressing at all, has one of the most laughable shots i’ve seen in my life, let alone for a professional footballer…the jury is definitely still on him
hopefully he’ll start progressing because we’ve been seeing the same performances from day 1 with him
I have one thing to say
Either you believe or you don’t – no path in life is ever straight – no walk is ever walked in sunshine – no journey is simple
You either do it the United way or you don’t do it at all
You either stand together no matter what or you give up and walk away when things are not ging your way
Where do you want to be? I know where I want to be and I will not back down from telling my team that they cannot do this
They can do it and they need us to keep on telling them that they can do it. So keep on telling them and don’t stop – history beckons…
I don’t think Fergie’s rotation policy, helps certain players. It won’t change though, so some of our players need to up their game, when given the chance. Example? Hernandez.
No complaints with the point but we can play a whole lot better and will win the league with games to spare.As I say can do better and my Schalke return leg ticket came through today so get it sorted lads.
@willierednut
That the problem isn’t it, the guy’s not got playing time since he joined us, it was always something – injury,fitness. And even with Scholes out it still won’t be easy for him to get play time. We’ve already seen what Giggs does in the middle – with Carrick, and Park playing on the left or in the middle. Its tough for the lad but he has to find that extra bit that’ll make SAF take notice
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/video/2011/apr/20/united-busby-babes-munich-air-crash-video
Interviews on the set of the filming of the Busby Babes BBC film.
i thought Evra was below average in the first half, second half he was terrific. He had a game of two-halves.
And you GOT to smile when you miss sitters like that, because if you let yourself down and feel frustrated from it, subconsciously it will dent your confidence. Furthermore, for a leader like Giggs, showing his frustration would only worsen the whole teams’ morale.
@Giles: Agree re: rooney -I thought he was the guy who held up everything together last night. Passing, attacking link-up, tracking back – very good, really. Anderson – I do want him to start regularly, the guy’s got real potential. I don’t think he was too bad yesterday, when he dis lose the ball, he worked hard to win it back. Frankly, I would have preferred him to start over Scholes against City. Evra – yes, I agree, but puzzle or not, I have to blame Fergie a bit for this one. He should be rested more often and young Fabio be given more chances. Why not try Evra as a winger and Fabio as LB in some matches?
Anyway, here’s hoping for a Spurs win tonight…
Off topic – Andreas Iniesta has been cleared by UEFA to play in the European Cup semi-final first leg against Madrid after they decided that his yellow card against Shakthar was not intentional. Nice work UEFA. Fucking cunts.
Panicing is what Arsenal do, keep our heads and the title is ours, lose our heads and we’ve fucked it, Squeaky bum time.
missed a chance 9 clear and i could see no what back for gooners or CFC
did anyone else feel we looked a bit fucked fitness wise
felt we havent looked as well condtioned as in previous years bit of a worry given the next couple of weeks
Have in mind this was Newcastles cup final of the year, with a week resting. United has had a long spell of games with a though game away from home just three days earlier. Just as after CL it is difficult.
My wishlist comes may:
1, Nr. 19
2. CL-winners
3. Stoke FA-cup-winners
4. Spurs nr.4
5. Liverpool out of Europe
I guess SAF is making the same mistake regarding Anderson as he plays him out of his actual position as a play maker, well the same thing he did with alan smith, he bought a striker and after rotating he became a center half, is that a good thing to do is it a bad thing???
Here is my review from the Newcastle match, and where it went wrong. The only bright side I could see was that we did not lose. Vidic, Carrick and Rooney were our better, not best, players against them. We are Manchester United and never make life easy on ourselves, but I am sure of no. 19.
Be back on later to chat…
Reds’ Figureheads Out Of Toon Against Newcastle / http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/04/reds-figureheads-out-of-toon-against.html
Newcastle played as well as any team against us this year and took advantage or recent games taking its toll on players legs, given our poor away form I’ll take this result.
Cant understand those cunts who are moanin about this and that, get over your selves.
Hammon who does David Villa play for?
I really do have to watch chelsea tv.
can’t stop laughing how they call Morrison and Pogba OK.
clowns.
Our lack of power from midfield has been our down fall. No one has bene able to pin opponents back away from home, it is like united do not like it when it gets fast and durious away from home. Our current midfield I have said time and time again is at an end of a cycle, build a midfield around carrick valencia and nani, add 2 quality midfielders in the endine room and away performences will improve. Even if fletcher returns to form, we still need 2 more because I do think both hargreaves and scholes will leave this summer, if they do we are down to carrick fletcher and gibson and that aint enough
Sorry to go off topic. Does anyone have a link to the youth cup game tonight? I’ve found one but it started with Gary Neville on MUTV, now it is showing Chelsea TV!
The presenter on there said that Paul Pogba is about 6’5″. Is this right? I thought he was about 6’1″
I will retype my last post, the spelling and gramma is awful
Our lack of power from midfield has been our down fall. No one has been able to pin opponents back away from home, it is like united do not like it when it gets fast and furious away from home, we are much more of a european outfit than a premiership one. Our current midfield I have said time and time again is at an end of a cycle, build a midfield around carrick fletcher valencia and nani, add 2 quality midfielders in the engine room along with the improving welbeck and cleverly, and away performances will improve. Even if fletcher returns to form, we still need 2 more, because I do think both hargreaves and scholes will leave this summer, if they do we are down to carrick fletcher and gibson and that ain’t enough
I was goin to go tonight but the wife patience was wearin thin, plus I have to watch Spuds v Arse. through my fingers of course.
obvious if we lose hargreaves and scholes, we will only have carrick fletcher anderson and gibson to choose from
@Scholesy i actually i feel the same way about Ando. To me his best position is just behind the strikers or a little behind Rooney who is playing behind Chicha.
Let’s hope ‘Big Game’ Bale delivers tonight.
Unlucky mattbw7. I have the same problem with my fiance. Most of the time she is fine with me going to Old Trafford when I can or watching every game on the box, she gets funny about the youth games! Come on the Yids.
Good to see FIFA have let that pasty faced cunt Iniesta off for deliberately getting a yellow card. Fucking Barca loving cunts. Hhmm. Funny how they wouldnt look into the Fletcher non sending off against Arsenal in the semi two years ago.
Kings – Hello mate. Ha yeah. For once I hope “Big Game” Bale does deliver.
Kings – what is it, 9 goals and 1 assist WOW he is player of the year. There is that saying players arent the brightest when you see this years nominees
@mikeyg2310
mutv youth match link
http://www.magictv.co/
any truth to the rumours de gea’s almost a done deal?
King Eric – remember what he said back in the summer 2008 and the following year, if they got the money then its fine. Yet when the premiership clubs do it his pantys are in a twist. My mate said when I said madrid have gone bankrupt 3 times they still finish in the top 4, he said the spanish goverment keep bailing them out, and he goes on to say no wonder spain are in so much debt, by now madrid since 99 must have wasted billions. I doubt united under fergie have spent 400 million on players since he came here
Scholesy – You what pal? How the fuck could Carrick have cost us the game last night? Wird remark.
This is fucking daft.
Martin – Cheers fella.
Many Thanks vzla. That’s the one I’ve got. It’s switched back to MUTV.
No idea on De Gea
*weird*
will madrid and barcelona come into line with these new financial regulations, because the wages some of these players are on is beyond a joke thats without the transfer fees they have paid for players
beg to differ- Giggs laugh was purely ironic….no secret there. Besides, getting frustrated and hitting the head on the ground would not have gotten us a goal. Staying calm in the box does……since 1991.
Kings – Sorry pal, just read through all the posts and realised you had already mentioned Iniesta.
willie – You said Hernandez need to up his game when given the opportunity. Did you mean Ando?
vzla – The fee is agreed and personal terms. It’s whether the lad wants to leave Spain.
ravel has such a big influence on our game.
King Eric – Yeah mate. I was talking about your chance, when given a place in the team. Hernandez has done that IMO. Anderson needs to do the same. Make it impossible for the manager to drop you.
King Eric – hernandez for me is in his first season, he needs to beef up a bit , and improve on his passing. But he can only get better.
King Eric – Yeah let’s hope the ape like cunt rapes sissy Sagna. On the topic of UEFA mate, I posted that too at 17.31, the second they announced it on Sky Sports News. The first thing that went through my mind was the Fletcher red card as well, then I remembered who the UEFA president was, that ant-english fucking cunt Platini. I will never forget the contrasting emotions he showed in the two finals we played in. 2008 – A look of utter contempt at Rio before telling him to move along while he carried the cup over to the podium before taking a step back and grimacing. 2009 – The look of complete and utter joy when giving the cup to Poohole to raise aloft, while he was standing there with a smug look. Fucking cunt.
fergie is the boss – Absolutely mate. As I said to Costas in a thread relating to the PFA awards, they have set a new criteria, whereby you can have two stand out games before christmas then do fuck all after that. Hence the respective awards for Bale and Wilshere. Look at 1999 when that prick Ginola won both awards based on his wondergoal against Barnsley in the FA Cup. Keane was miles ahead of anyone that season, putting in 10/10 performances week in week out and scoring in the biggest of games.
Liking your wish list, Gaffer!!
King Eric – Hey no problem my friend. Great minds and all that!
*taking*
willierednut – andersons passing has gone to hell for me, he expects the likes of nani giggs rooney and hernandez to do all the creative part and the goals is well, that he does not need to do much but pass it square, did anderson even break forward much and support our attacking cast.
Kings – the PFA awards were starting to gain some respect when the likes of ronaldo rooney and giggs won it the past phew years, bale winning it makes the whole award a complete joke again
fergie is the boss – Totally agree mate. You only have to look at the fact that Scholesey not ever winning it to know that the whole thing is a joke, even though we had the winners as you correctly mentioned.
King Eric – haven’t u seen carrick’s back pass that was short from midfield or have u been watching another game mate…
Kings – did bale drive spurs to the title, since everyone thinks the premiership is so bad how come spurs are not top lols, or drag them to safety no. Some say giggs won it out of sympothy he never won it. despite the fact he was sensational that year esp at his age of 35 back then. For me vidic was player of the year of 2009. Scholes for me should have been player f the year in 2007 not ronaldo
van weelzen is a mug.
how long goes he wait to shot
MORRISON!
1-0 morrison get in there
fergie is the boss – Bale getting the award is a massive piss take. This is the thing mate, these ABU cunts are going on about United being possibly the worst team to win the Premiership, yet the other so called challengers cannot even keep up despite us dropping points in games we should have won, all of those at the death. Had we kept our concentration up and until the final whistle in those games, we would have gained an extra 8 points and could be be looking to seal the title against Everton on Saturday. So if United are really that bad, what does that say about the rest?
On the topic of the PFA, both Giggs and Scholes should have won at least one each in the mid-90s as there were not many players who could live with them, with the notable exception of Cantona of course. Totally agree about Vida being the right choice for PFA in 2009. 2007, I would go with Ronaldo as the correct choice mate, but Scholes definitely should have won it in 2003.
Morrison!!!! Luck bounce but well done!.
1-0 United 3-3 on aggregate. Anyone know if our 2 away goals count for anything in a draw?
Come on young devils!
2-0 keane come on. morrison running the show now
get in there keane!
give the kockneys a beating!
fuck yeah reserves go 2 up
. 4-3 on agg.
carloc1978 – Great work by the lad. Missed him for the first leg. Great start, let’s smash these cunts.
away goals don’t matter.
morrison is sooo good
carloc1978 – According to some cunt on a Chelsea blog, Josh McEachran is running the show.
http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4daeee514e6c6
good 1st half by the lads morrison really is a great prospect. now lets hope spurs and birmingham do us a good turn!
birmingham already behind.
don’t think they will come back.
1-0 arsenil.
What a fat slow cunt Huddlestone is. Touch of a rapist that lead to mincing cunt Walcotts goal.
yeah!!!!!
Great strike by VDV 1-1
1-1 tottenham!
Bloody hell, what a start to both games…
haha.. watching our youngsters handing a lesson to chesea’s.. at half time, watch spurs immediately equalizes to arsenal.. Football.. bloody hell
getting a goal back so early is vital! come on spurs, give us a hand in the quest for 19th! we’ll reward u with a good price for modric!!!
Man, Crouch is disgusting to look at with the ball….looks like drunken Pinocchio
lol Mahesh bloody hell 30 seconds quicker than me haha
2-1 arseholes
wtf…spurs are like the arsenal. fucking up everything.
Still feel the ref robbed us from a peno when Williamson mashed Nani to the ground when the cross came in. Didn’t get a single touch on the ball, but sure as hell made Nani not.
laughter is the pinnacle of frustration, its past cussing, head-in-hands, clap, or whatever, when your so frustrated you chuckle your about to lose your mind! so i understood the giggsy chuckle because i was doing the same thing haha
Nice work Tottenham.
its very simple….we are missing fletcher in the middle of park….of our current fit players there is nobody who could have handled yaya toure or could have given us some shape and power in the middle of the pitch….except for fletcher and hargreaves( our only 2 natural dm’s)….i applaud our team spirit that gets us the wins ( and that is something hard to find) and covers our individual flaws in midfield but lets face the truth guys, all our good midfielders are either injured, sick or old right now (scholes, giggs(legend), fletcher, hargreaves, and im suprised that the oldies have kept us going thus far….i think we have ruined anderson, nani is too selfish (although it works for him sometimes), valencia although i have nothing bad to say about him at all, he is not world class, and park who always turns up for the big games and runs he heart out for us ….i just feel most of the time id rather he not have the ball in the last 3rd of the field as he just loses the ball too often! anyways just some rumblings from a not so worried fan, miss the days when ronaldoo,tevez,rooney,berbatov played on the same team….those days i didnt even fear barcelona!!!
onwards to number 19….and lets take the game to real/barca in the final!
Fuck off Huddlestone you fat obese cunt.
All Spurs have to do, is pass the ball to the BEST player in the league. I’m sure that Bale will RIP APART any defense in the league
Wilkins in orgasm mode over Arsenal.
I agree with Devil 310. Spurs have the Best Player of the season out there (TM) and will get back in it soon…
Nasri should be named world footballer of the year, what a player and what a class A cunt
Kings
Whats Wilkins on about?
Even Spurs are better than us at taking corners! LOL
@Cedars
He just said “I’m a great lover of Jack Wilshere” …
Should give you an idea
CedarsDevil – Wilkins: ‘When Arsenal are in this mood they are a joy to watch’
Fuck Spurs.
Anyone keeping count of how many times Wilkins has said Stay on your feet?
Wilkins: ‘Fabregas and Modric, two midfield maestros’. Fuck off Dr Evil.
Copa del Rey Final about to start….good thing I have 2 TVs. Chelsea are killing it. That game is done.
Thank God I’ve got Paul Walsh co commentating, not a big fan but not very annoying. Shame about Wilkins, had great respect for him when he played for us however he seems to have become a right idiot as a pundit
Useless cunts
Honestly I can’t even stand the sight of Nasri celebrating with Robin Van Cunt.
well we have to win against everton simple as that
Not to mention their keeper, szecunty or whatever. What an arrogant cunt, what has he won?
So much for the optimism on here regarding spurs. If any team has a track record of giving up without a fight its them.
Quick Reaction To Draw Against Newcastle…
1. WE SHOULD HAVE WON
LOL…never trust Spurs to do United’s job
Spurs rolled over.
That cunt winking at the camera after taking out Bale. I hope that comes back on him. Fucking wanker.
exciting cmon spurs
Would you believe it? Obese cunt Huddlestone smashes one in! Serves that cunt right for winking.
What the fuck is that Arsenal keeper winking at? Need him a Roy Keane left foot in his face the cunt
Have to admit though, these North London derbies are always full of goals
@Kings….”Obese cunt Huddlestone”
HAHAHAHAHA
Are they headed for another 4-4 or 4-5? Lol.
If Arsenal win tonight, imo they will win at Bolton too. But the most important result for us, is the Everton one.
In honour of Kings, I am going to rename him Fattlestone.
LOL It is a hockey match up in North London. I’ve switched to the el classico. COME ON SPURS!!!
Arsenal are one of the most contemptible teams I’ve ever seen. How often do they moan? Or cheat? Fucking classless cunts.
Wenger’s having a rant at the fourth official. SHOCK!
spanish is such a crazy language
Costas – Good call mate!
3-0 United. Get in!!!!
Just put 10 pounds on a Spurs win when the scoreline was still 3-1. Looks like a fairly decent possibility now, given le Arse’s tendency to bottle every reasonably close game they’ve played all season.
What’s happenin with the Youth team???
who scored?
Morrison, then Will Keane twice.
Pique shagging Shakira? good man
@kings
Good to know the youngsters are doing well. Chelsea owned again, lol.
lads have played really well morrison is class. come on on spurs !
Any links for Copa Del Rey Final..?
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=113495&part=sports
maybe youll find smthg there
Costas – Absolutely mate. Same again from the first team on May 8th. Final of the Youth Cup and the Reserves one win away from the League title, the futures looking bright for United.
4-0 keane 3 goals well played
Has Wilkins had his orgasm yet?
4-0
haha send the cockneys home.
Costas,
How about Flatustone, just sayin.
Lost my link to the juniors. Anyone have an update?
Alan Smith: ‘Fabregas looked really focussed in the tunnel, like a steely eyed expression, none of that shaking hands before the game’. Fuck off you cunt, trying to make him out to be a leader in the Keane Mould.
Fuck me, wish I had MUTV again….. Would have loved to watch our boys destroy Chelsea
ah got it 4-0 Lov this!!!
Kings
My 3 year old girl has a better chance of being compared to Roy Keane than that cunt Fabregas
great win united youth some great young united players of the future i hope!
Bale taken off at half time. The best player in England…
@Kings
Hope so mate. We got a slight piece of revenge last week, but I want us to beat them in the league game too.
@FletchTHEMAN
Lol, also a good one. Dare I say come on Spurs?
the academy lads just be chelski 4-0 in the cup so am happy about today no matter what happens with the seniors
Costas
Dare away buddy!
CedarsDevil, Ha ha, good one mate! G*d help the boys then! Ha ha ha
4-0? Darn, I’ve been watching the wrong games all along!
David Villa is acting like a cunt. CR7 is missing.
Best player in England can only play half of the season, or else it would be considered “unfair” to other rivals
@Cedars
Or maybe I will start accusing them of rolling over. The last two times I did it, they conceded goals.
Anybody have one decent stream for El Clasico>
I can honestly swear that Nasri looks like my neighbor’s dog…. Furthermore I am sure that Wilshere’s head is no way in proportion with his body size…
FletchTHEMAN
Cheers mate, she is a tough one, gave a boy his first black eye last week at nursery for trying to nick her biscuit….lol
Great result, thanks for update guys!
is anyone else sick of people calling arsenal THE arsenal it’s really annoying and then calling united man u
Chelsea not hurting their GD here. It would be nice if we beat Everton and score 3 or 4.
the last time we scored three against everton we drew
wink wink
Are you winking now you cunt?
Was Nasri always this crap? Last 5 touches he gave away a goal kick, lost the ball 3 times and got tackled.
Eboue>wilshere lol
ahh penalty Spuds
Yeah, but that was the last time we played them, lol. Every other time we’ve scored 3 against them, they’ve scored less.
Van der Vaart, my hero, lol
3-3 Spurs
Football bloody hell
3-3 come on spurs don’t blow it now
@rachreddevil1
Been sick of that for years
Szeswhatever his name is just gave us a helping hand in the title race! Winking cunt
i would be happier if we score 5+
OMG what a save after what a cock up
3:3 Spurs
Cracking game to be fair
Sorry where are my manners? Good Evening Manchester United
Oh man, It feels too good to be true, lol.
Brum get one back.
What a save by calamity Gomes
Phew!
Loved VDV’s nutmegs on odd body
I hope VdV gets his hat-trick!
VDV having a decent game, seems fired up for it
Gomes is an XL version of Barthez
game up on 3-1 to watch barca – real.. and now
) vdv get a hatrick son!! ..
btw real is killing barca…
oh come on spurs hang on in there!
gave* up
I feel there’s still a goal in this game.
Hi MG.
did the U18′s finish 4-0????
What a sequel to a what a save
Phew!
MG, evening to you too buddy!
Costas
Evening Costas – what a nice and quiet night it is – with the moon shining bright and a lovely breeze intact
yes 4-0 keane got hattrick and morrison 1
Good evening CedarsDevil – how are you mate?
Harry going for 4-4-2 with Crouch and Pavlyuchenko. He should be protecting his rear end at this point!!
I think Lennon will have an effect on this game
martin tyler is hilarious he gets so excited when people go
to shoot
Nicklas Bendtner is on….Good…now we now for a fact Arsenal won’t win this
Very proud of United juniors – extremely proud – well done United
martin tyler is the only one i can listen too without getting angry
@MG
In a poetic mood I see.
spurs should be winning this winker has made a few good saves tosser
Trilogy of saves to what a save from Arsenal goalkeeper
Tell me though penalty was given against him why wasn’t he booked or sent off since he was last man?
Costas
As always
@rat1p, Amen to that mate. Arguably the best commentator in English football and as neutral as neutral can be.
MG
I am great thanks mate……….. I see Costas thinking you are a poetic mood….Agreed!
Spurs vs Arsenal is turning out to be a scorcher. Why do I have a lousy feeling that there is a late twist still to come?
surely he has got his favourite club but he never is biased and thats class in my opinion
hope spurs dont blow it and hoping barca and madrid kick lumps out of each other!
My bad. Pavlyuchenko was actually taken off. I guess this explains why it was such an open game at first. They took too many risks.
@MG
Kebabs get decided in just 5 games.
MG
Easy answer, Atkinson is the ref
@MG
Atkinson doesn’t want United to win the league. He might give Arsenal a penalty if they don’t score soon.
CedarsDevil
Always time for reflection
Bendtner on. So we’re safe.
I believe Atkinson won’t fuck it up
Costas
Only 5 to go – waited nearly two seasons for this moment my friend…
puh chelsea in second spot now
yeah! 19th baby!!
good result for us keeps that 6pt gap! have to beat everton vital to get 3pts united forever!
THANKS SPURS!!!! BIG LET OFF!!! NOW WE MUST CONCENTRATE!!!! COME ON UNITED!!!!
Thank you spurs, wonder who aresen will blame?
if you bottle smthg you do “an arsenal”
Yesterdays result now feels less painful. We should not let this chance slip from our grasp now!!!!
Thank god Assanal dropped points aswell! although i always believed Spurs would be to tough for them, at 3-1 things was looking bad. Great result, now we just have to win against Everton! Especially as i’m going all the way from Norway to watch us play them!
Thanks Spurs. Arsenal lost the 2nd spot. How can a team fuck up like this game after game? Spineless cunts.
What does this mean for the title? Well, lets beat Everton first and we will see. Imo, to win the title, we will need at least 2 points from the games against Arsenal and Chelsea. If we do that, we will be 4 points ahead with 2 games to go.
So, yeah, both teams are 6 points behind us now. Read what I said yesterday: Arsenal are the biggest chokers this side of the South African cricket team and they’ve still got to visit Stoke and Bolton.
I think that officially means Chelsea become the better rivals for us now. But that is good news because we’ve got them at Old Trafford.
So, I think I can smell the 19th already. But as Costas has said, the Everton game has just become huge for us. But then again, it is that time of the season, so every game is huge and we should be up for all of them equally.
same o’ arsenal same o’ arsenal. ball is back is our court. we are not punish for yesterday draw in a way. 5 more games to go, keep ur nerves lads, it’s really the last 100m sprint now. come on United!
Hex still works.
what wanker would say:
clearly that was not a penalty, the guy dived
the referee was very poor
we didn’t deserved this draw
hahahahaha clearly a wanker
cough, cough, splutter, splutter!!
…the sound of Arsnal choking again!!
Don’t think I’d be able to watch the Everton game, I’ll be too nervous – I would much rather we just get to the big Arsenal and Chelsea games…
” Right – let’s go #Arsenal. Beat ‘Arry’s ‘Alfwits and we can take @rioferdy5 and his cocky Utd clowns down. #goonerpower
Get in there…..@Persie_Official – this is a massacre @Lord_Sugar #spursslaughterhouse
Stop watching @Lord_Sugar – you’ll keel over at your age.
For god’s sake #arsenal – learn how to defend a bloody lead. This is pathetic. ”
You don’t need me to tell you whose tweets are these.
6 points clear with 5 to play, all Utd fans would have dreamt of that last August.
3 wins and 2 draws against Arse and Chelsea and we will be champions, thats
thinking that they will win all their other games which i doubt.
Some of yous need to have faith, cursing spurs when 3 1 down. Arsenal are brittle at the back and blew once again. Sort of knew the rentboys would win, but they didn’t hit 5 or 6, which looked likely at one point. Ekotto and VDV were top class for the spuds. That ball for the penalty, was right on the money. It’s still in our hands lads. Well done the young bucks. The future looks great.
Costas – I said chelsea are not out of this, the next 3 games will decide wither united are winners or its on thin ice. I hope we get atleast 7 pts in the next 3 games, we do that will be enough to win the league what you think
Do tell Costas
i also read that on twitter costa morgan is such a twat. massive game sat sir alex has to start with best 11 i know we have semi on tues but lets sort everton before we worry about that!
Costas
One thing we are not is fucking cocky
No one ever talked about quadruples or whatever – we’ve always said win the league and that will be enough everything else a bonus
Let’s just do this one game at a time and that is the end of that.
Maybe I should be tweeting the fuck out of Morgan the dick
willierednut – chelsea are not out of this because of their next 2 home games, they could be back in this
I usually don’t gloat over other teams slip ups. But have to wonder about le Arse. In the same
breath, kudos to Hawy for baling on Bale and getting his lads to fight back for the draw.
we should not forget the schalke game but right now it looks good
Wink, fuckin Wink!!
@Cedars
Piers Morgan, who else, lol. He must be related you your pal, Townend.
@FITB
Considering who we are playing in the next 3, 7 points will see us crowned champions officially. Chelsea will take heart from this though. Lets make sure we win on Saturday first and foremost. I don’t like that we also have the Ch.League games between the Chelsea/Arsenal games. 2 wins and 2 draws from these 4 games will be fantastic.
All we ever had to do regardless of what happened tonight was to just concentrate on the Everton game. I hate them early morning kick offs. I’m sure the stats will prove me wrong but it feels like we always mess up in the early games. Anyways I think we should win but our only danger is that we might have one eye on Tuesday night. For me, Saturdays game is way more important than the Schalke one, so lets go all out and put the toffees to the sword, let the champions league ties take care of themselves. WE WANT 19!!!!!!!!
I’ve been watching the bore-fest that is Barca Madrid
Someone tell me where is Ronaldo?
rat1p + fuck europe, lets make sure we are champions and then we can get the squad reshaped and in far better shape to really blitz the premiership next season
Premier League > La Liga
Spurs V Arseholes > Real V Barca
Worth mentioning that Spurs turned it around when the Best Player iN England (TM) was taken off.
@MG
No you don’t have to mate. Seeing his tweets after Arsenal bottle it is the greatest satisfaction in the world. 6 years.
Agreed. We haven’t made a big fuss about winning trophies. Fergie has been pretty low key about it. Poor Jack Wilshere. Keeps talking about how United might slip and doesn’t pay attention to his own club.
Nr. 19 at home, thrashing rent boys for third in a row
Costas – I have said this, some of this team is at an end of a cycle esp the injured players. I do believe that will be enough, it makes me wonder if we held on against everton away that is 72 pts, fulham should have scored the penalty 74 pts and beat west brom at home thats 76 pts, we would basically have won this title but like all say, its all ifs and buts
Yea Costas wilshire forgets his team are on the dizzy water, when it comes to holding onto leads lols
@fergie is the boss
yeah but its a semifinal we have to play a decent lineup. i just meant fatigue plays a huge role at this stage of the season
If we beat Everton then draw against Arsenal and Chelsea then worst case scenario we’ll be 4pts ahead with 2 to play. Goes to show what a massive 3pts it will be for us Saturday if we can pull it off. Fuck this, how are we supposed to work for another 2 days. I think a new law should be passed when the fans of all teams involved in the title race should be exempt from work.
rat1p – I do not think this team should be fatigued, we have allot of depth upfront unlike last year, maybe thin on the ground in the engine room and plenty of cover in defence.
We have 4 strikers to chose from
rooney hernandez berbatov owen
look at the back
oshea ferdinand vidic smallen evans evra fabio
we can shift valencia tp RB if we need to really go on the attack, yes we are thin at RB but with fletcher on the rise he can fill in at RB and finally get him fit and firing in uniteds midfield. We rotate ferdinand and smallen so both players are playing once a week. This could be the result like the 2006/07 result when chelsea drew 0 0 with newcastle it gives us a new found belief we can rap this title up has fast has we can
Oh do piss off…………. who? Not sure really just wanted swear. Ok if you insist let it be the Hobbit Wilshere
I could care less about the CL if it causes us to miss out of the Prem. The league IS the one true prize that we should not let slip. This is history of a completely different class. I would gladly slip up in the semis if it guaranteed the title. Ofcourse a double would be nice, but the prem is the top prize for me. If any one had asked you in November if you could have just one trophy which would it be, given this squad, most would have been chuffed to have #19. We still have lots of work to do. Chelsea has got to be liking their chances.
@Costas, My point on Bale exactly. Shows that their manager had some guts I suppose.
FITB – I tipped Chelsea for second. Still think they’ll finish behind us. 1United 2Chelsea 3Arsenal 4 City. It don’t really matter how you get over the line, just as long as you get over the line.
In a weird way, 2 draws against Arsenal and Chelsea will be better than a win and a defeat. Because we will stop both of them from gaining points against us.
@FITB
Yeah it could have been a different story, but luckily, the others fucked up more often than we did. It’s a great position to be in right now. Even with Arsenal and Chelsea games on the horizon. I really wish we pick up 7 points like you said. But it’s not like United to make it that easy…
Willie = genius
willierednut – I agree, I do not care how we do it has long has we win it, so we can really build on this success. We did it in 93 96 99 07 so it shows, when we win a title or regain one we seem to get stronger.
@Fletch
That’s true. And I think it also shows how undeserverving he was of that award. Has another player that’s won this award ever being taken off at half time in the very next game?
@fergie is the boss
hope you are right
Costas = Weird
Costas – the press and pundits say united are only top because the others have fucked up, here is a list of games we should have won and we were robbed, which shows chelsea and arsenal are also lucky
everton 3 3 united – united should throw away 2 goals in a minute in the 90th mins
fulham 2 2 united – united miss a penalty on the 85th mins, 2 mins later fulham equalise
united 2 2 west brom – united throw away a 2 goal lead, esp with united’s home record this season
birmingham 1 1 united – bowyer hand balls his goal which robs united of 3 pts
chelsea 2 1 united – terrible referee decisions cost united 3 pts at SB
that is 11 pts we should be better off, that is 81 pts we should be up by and the press and media say we have been lucky, I beg to differ our rivals should be lucky we have kept them in the title race
Messi is no Bale I have to say. And, La Liga is so MUCH BETTER than the PL its unbelievable!!
Costas = genius
Where the fuck is smartalex?
haha cristiano scores
goal ronaldo great header
portugueseprincess
Will you marry me? LOL hard to find a babe with so much passion for a football club…. Total respect
They are on their grind, but that was probably not their best performance. Not the worst, but I think the overall performance and mentality of the game was not as superb as it could or should have been. We still got a chance, so go get em!
@CedarsDevil,
hahahahhahah I am already married, to Ryan Giggs!! hahahahahaha but thanks for asking
Who was asking for Ronaldo? hahahaha
portugueseprincess
Damn, lol……….. Can I be at least your secret lover? Hahahahahah
Cedars – You old charmer. Sorry, young charmer lol.
Off topic:
Was wondering if there is anyone from NYC on this forum?
Am I the only one who loves the Republik from here?
our old boy ronaldo scores against barca!!!!!!!
@Cedars, hahahahhahahahahahhahaha berbatov is already doing that job hahahah
Sorry mate!!
Thank you SPURS!!!!
6 point lead and superior goal difference – we can drop 2 games or draw 3 and still win if we hang on to that goal diff lead…things are looking good!
Cracking game Aresenal & Spurs 3-3. The Real Barca game – pretty crap by comparison, even if Real win Barca are so superior Real could hardly get the ball off them.
akshay – 2 goals in 2 against barca, its becoming a habbit for old ronnie
Ronnie diving again header?
@portugueseprincess La Liga is better than EPL, no way!
This is a league for only two teams Barcelona and Real Madrid, no opportunities for the rest of them, the budget is a big different… EPL is great! more emotions more action, more football…
So suddenly the result last night doesn’t seem to bad. 6 pts with 5 to play. Lets bloody make sure that we win on Saturday – huge game. Need an atmosphere like the Chelsea CL game to help push the guys over the line.
Win there and bit more pressure on Arse and Chelski. Arsenal won’t be happy at going to Bolton and I just have a wee feeling about West Ham at Chelsea ….. you never know.
Believe ….. Come on United lets get the 19th!
portugueseprincess
Damn, this is bringing me back to high school days…. Not first or even second choice hahahaha… Well Ii guess if you are ever lonely in your 80′s dial me up! hahahahahah
NBI Red Onion – who could get the ball off barca, madrids midfield is simuler to ours where they have an ok midfield with an outstanding attacking lineup. In xavi and iniesta they have 2 of the most teqnically gifted midfielders of their generation
Cedars/Costas – Hi guys, sorry for my absence. Well, I told you that cunt would have his wink at the camera come back and haunt him. Wanker. He’s such a cocky little cunt, mouthing off about Rooney’s penalty miss in the league game at Old Trafford, repeating it day after day about how he psyched him out – what a hero! He then has a moan about Neville’s challenge that should have been a penalty at West Brom on New Years day, now he was getting cocky after taking out Bale. My soul mate Karma played it’s part on you, you fucking cunt Szczesny.
Did anyone catch some of the highlights of the Chelsea game? That Chelsea loving cunt Fat Le Tissier shot his load each time Chelsea scored. Then at the full-time whistle, that jumped up little cunt Bertrand was bowling around like some rude boy just because he set up Maloudas goal. Hope he gets a sniff at Old Trafford before Vida goes straight through him.
I see mine and King Eric’s mates at the Mail got the score of the Youth Cup game wrong, saying United won 3-0. Either that is ignorance or they are trying to spare them from further embarrassment. I wish I knew of the people responsible for sending that parcel bomb to Neil Lennon, so I can get them to send one to them as well.
Looks like Barcelona are going to lose the Final to the virus. Well done Ronaldo. Fuck off Barcelona.
By the way, do not worry about gooners, they are their worst enemy… They are losing any chance to be on the top of the league…
Kings – the pundits whipping it out again for chelsea, if we were the last team on earth the dirt on the ground would be tipped to win the league. 2 weeks ago everyoone said the russians were old, now they say they are fave to beat united to the title
YESS REAL MADRID WINS!!!! Jose Mourinho is indeed “special”. AMAZING what he has done with Real Madrid. And I also loved when Ronaldo scored in front of the Barca fans. That moment of defiance was special. Basically telling them to shut it LOLLL. CLASSIC!!!! there will be no Major treble anywhere in europe this year.
”That Chelsea loving cunt Fat Le Tissier shot his load each time Chelsea scored”
You lot are funny:)
@Mexico is RED, I also said that Bale is better than Messi…that’s the clue!! LOL do you know what sacarm is?
why does everytime shitty and the russians do well they come out of the cracks
portugueseprincess – no oshea is better than messi
Best player in the world is portuguese. Fuck off anyone who disagrees!! I don’t give a shit!! hahahaha
@ fergie is the boss
I agree, I was trying to see how Barca kept the ball so well, it’s amazing, not just their midfield, they all almost have the ball like a yoyo at their feet, the little tiny guys are like the midgets in Gullivers travels, they also run and mark and position themselves with almost a 6th sense, then press, press, press. However, Ronaldo and Adebayors height and pace when they got behind the defence gave them some trouble.
I really want United to steal Barca’s tiki taka coach, we need to do more of that tiki taka thing, the way they keep possession is amazing, we must try to learn that, surely it is not beyond some of our players, but Madrid did out muscle them and was like a white wall of defence.
Let’s see who get’s to the final – I think Madrid were lucky here, I would be surprised if Barca do not break them down over two legs but you never know, it’s like watching Mourinhio’s Inter again.
We would have a cracking game against Real. Against Barca, you never know, Rooney on his day playing behind the lead striker can pass like any of them and dictate play. The season is getting hot now – I am so excited and relieved Arsenal drew it is not even funny…maybe I need a hobby…
Mourinho’s got something on Barcelona. They must hate him, with a passion lol. Still think Barcelona will have too much in the champions league for Real.
@Mexico is Red, I meant to say sarcasm! hahahahah
C.Ronaldo doesn’t seem that excited about this. I can’t see him celebrating (?)
@ Kings 22.01
Your comment about sending people bombs – tacky.
portugueseprincess
Dare we disagree?
Barca are gonna be soo pissed. Their Champions lge semi will be a real dogfight. Surely Barcelona cannot allow them to win that one too? Who knows. Mourinho is on a roll. EVERYWHERE he has coached in the big time, he has at least one trophy.
Hope the youth team continued success v Shefield United. Nice to instill a desire for trophies at an early age. The Telegraph have a decent report on the FA Youth cup semi final win v CSKA juniors. Has some nice historical perspective and generally well done.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/8463985/FA-Youth-Cup-Manchester-United-4-Chelsea-0-agg-6-3-match-report.html
Sorry who was the person who winked at the camera after taking out bale? I was too busy watching the el classico.
NBI Red Onion – well who ever has a midfield of xavi iniesta and messi to go along side villa any coach can win trophys, esp having someone like messi. Fergie showed he lost his messi in ronaldo and still he has got united competing. Pep is a gd manager but look at the talent he has at his disposal, and la liga itself simope jack could win it
simple jack could win I mean
Yeh what a brilliant, innovative coach Madrid have. A deep cross, Ronaldo’s header – goal. Genius.
@Cedars, yes we may. but then If Berba loses his place you wont get it. hahahahahahaha
fergie is the boss – Idiotic cunts the lot of them mate. Just because they have sneaked into 2nd, they are now nailed on to win it, despite being 6 points behind. They still have to go to Everton on the last day of the season.
NBI Red Onion – I write all that in that post and that’s all you could be bothered to read. In the words of Fergie: ‘Deary Me!’
I hate the daily mail – fucking racist, right-wing cunts.
I’m predicting a new crop of fledglings,
2011/2012 Season
Ravel Morrison
Paul Pogba
Ryan Tunnicliffe
Josh King
Davide Petrucci
Oliver Norwood
Tom Torpe
NBI Red Onion
I have to say I disagree.
I dont want United to play tikki-takka. We arleady have one pretender in this league.
I want United play the United away.
Fast paced- Gunho 4-4-2 with a solid midfield.
Fast wingers capable of beating 10 men and crossing accurately to a hair on 2 solid strikers up front.
There is a history of wing-play at United.
Tikki-Takka can go to hell.
portugueseprincess
I can only hope! hahahaha
Ronaldo>>>>>>>>Messi>>>>>>>>>Bale
VDV>>>>>>>>>>Wilshere
Robbie Savage is the worlds best player. Fergie was a fool to let him go.
I must say, Mourinho might be on to something with this crossing the ball into the box thing. You’ve got to hand it to him. Only his genius could have formed such a detailed plan to use height against Spanish opposition. Only God Knows (TM) what he could do with financial backing. Sign him up.
mattbw7 – Wilshere is a hard man. Did you see the way he was snarling at Assou-Ekotto? I had to switch over, I was so scared.
Who were watching the Spainish shite when you should have been watching Ravel and the boys in the FA Youth cup semi?
Some of them have a real chance. The three princes Ravel, Pogba and Tunnicliffe in midfield with Will Keane up front.
Watching Ravel play is like watching Halle Berry walking out of the water in the bond movie. He is so so good, if only he can get his head right!
“Watching Ravel play is like watching Halle Berry walking out of the water in the bond movie.”
No point in me watching him play then
haha
Kings
Agreed mate, I was so scared as well
RedHarry4Life – I hope those boys get a taste of first team football next season. Would be great to see Tunni take that cunt Wilshere to the cleaners.
Really impressed with youth lads tonight. If Mceachran can games for Chelsea team why can’t Pogba, Tunnicliffe and Morrison get games for us?
Tunnicliffe in particular completely bossed the game….. brilliant player that boy will be. Morrison drifted in and out but always looked dangerous. Pogba solid as ever. Keane is a very good striker – very clever.
Really hope some of these boys make it into the first team and stay there!
I know kings, his talent is immense and so is the big cock on his forehead
CedarsDevil – I think Wilkins wants to give him anal the way he was going OTT about him.
@ AnomanderRake
I see your point and I agree that the true United style is that, however, the ease with which we sometime lost possession this season a half tiki lesson or two would not go amis for balls that bounce of shins. Scholes used to be able to boss that area. I think Xavi and Iniesta learnt from him, he is the tiki in their taka.
I think Valencia and Nani on wings with Evra and Rafael in support would be great to see re speed, but SAF seems to use Nani and Valencia interchangeably, maybe he is saving using them both for the CL matches. I think if we keep Raul quiet we can handle Shalke, particularly as I think the first game is away.
@ xol few people can boast that they have beaten this Barcelona side TWICE with two different teams. In that respect he did well. To have the money to buy all the players is one thing. To make them beat barcelona is a WHOLE DIFFERENT ball game.
@dannysoya I don’t reckon beating this Barcelona side is something to boast about
I don’t think the word anal should be mentioned on here. There is impressionable young men and women frequenting the Republik tonight kings, and a randy CedarsDevil.
If we get to the final, doesn’t matter who wins between Barca or Madrid, either team will be SO exhausted after these games, and that can only work to our advantage
BALE would have scored 4 if he would have played the second half….BEST. PLAYER. EVER!
@ willierednut
In that case talk of big cocks on foreheads should also be omitted to avoid frantic googling by the ladies on the site
I mean they are awfully tough to beat no matter who is playing them. just saying. They can be beaten but it is incredibly hard to do. Just like beating us. When you beat them you know you have done something very significant just like when anyone beats us. In order to beat them you have to be your very best, same as us. I do believe that they merit whatever praise is being given to them because to beat Barcelona is not easy. And i haven’t seen anyone who has made it look easy.
Me randy? Well I guess i always am! hahaha
Barca just did not let Alonso distribute and dictate play, they were around him like dippers to a stolen car, all they could do as hoof it up for Ronny/Ade. I think if we play Real, we should take Alonso out and then they only have one back up plan.
Please, please, PUH-LEASE do not bring tikka-fucking-takka football to Manchester United. My god, that would test my loyalty.
Hard to cheer for the Virus but I’m glad those cunts from Barcelona lost today. The Virus really closed them down in the middle and were rock solid at the back. Xavi and Iniesta were almost invisible in the first half. Really impressed with the way Pepe and di Maria played, great work-rate too. Love him or hate him, Maureen knows how to devise a strategy, and he knows how to organize his team and gee them up to execute it. Shifting Pepe up from central defense into the midfield was a clever move that worked well.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Virus crack on from here in the CL. Today will have given them great self-belief’ they know now that they can beat Barca and what’s more, Barca know it too. That will be a shock to Barca, who are arrogant beyond belief. Best team in history, my arse. The way football was meant to be played, my arse.
And as I’ve been saying for a while now, Barca only know one way to play. Lots of ppl say that and mean it as a complement. I see it as a weakness because it means that when Plan A doesn’t work, they don’t have anything else they can try. Fuck ‘em. The Virus can beat them, and so can we.
I might add Sam Johnstone to the list of Youth team members who could make it. The road is longer for keepers, but the lad uses his size well.
@NBI Red Onion
I wouldnt say Scholes is a tikki-takka master.
Tikki-Takka in my opinion is a style of football where-in keeping posession is the aim. Its the ultimate expression of posession football. It also doesnt work if your entire team isnt in sycn with that ethos and thats why Barca rely on their youth because their trained that way from a young age.
Thats why when Arsenal try it, it doesnt work sometimes.
Scholes, game on the other hand is not based on holding on posession. He is more aggressive with his passing. Thats why you see those magnificient 50 yard balls to Valencia’s big toe.
Also, Scholes plays his midfield dictating game at a much higher pace. Scholes breaks down opposition teams with pace of ball movement and ability to switch point of attack very fast.
Xavi and Iniesta break down opposition defences by being far more patient and keeping the ball and waiting for a break through.
Both styles of midfield maestro have thier advantages and disadvantages. I prefer the fast paced 50 yard precision passing to wingers variety.
StateSideAussie @ 22:50: “Xavi and Iniesta were almost invisible in the first half.”
Yeah, BUT – they did complete 650 sideways passes.
I agree that this was a triumph for Maureen’s tactical acumen. He learned from the 5-0 thrashing and the 1-1- draw and now seems to be likely to turn the trick in the CL, too; just like he did with Inter at this stage last year. I guess that all those experts who consider this Barca team to be the bestest club team of all time are now officially in denial (and that’s not the river in Egypt).
Big congratulations to the UTD U18 squad for thrashing the RentKiddies, 4-nil. Does anyone have video links ? How good was Ravel Morrison ?
@ StatesideAussie – point noted.
As an aside – like Ceders, Torres still hasn’t scored.
Chelsea in second on goal diff, game on.
Why would they be in denial? Barcelona are top of the league. And, the two legs of the European cup to still come. Madrid have won the domestic cup, that’s all. I wouldn’t go tooting Mourinho’s horn just yet. Lets see the outcome of these two legs first.
Can we stop using the phrase tikka takka likes it some wonderful footballing philosophy we should all aspire too, prehaps doing snidey tackles high up the pitch is ok too cos thats what Barca get away with. RM did em tonight and we did em in 08, shut em down and they’re fucked, we lost the Rome final on a huge tactical error, giggs was out of position and our coaching staff where so sure Pique was suspect at being exposed to pace on the turn (thats why he was sold) we put CR up top against him, well that worked out didnt it.
Barca are like Liverpool of old and us in the late 90′s and early 00′s we’d won have our games before we set foot on the pitch such was our dominance and thats what barca try to do, well the cheating cunts where out cheated tonight, never seen so much rolling around.
Agree with @williwewdnut – Real were lucky today, maybe Barca also got a bit tired in extra time but Barca should have more than put it away in normal time with the chances they had. Tactically all Madrid did was defend and hope to get something by lumping it up when they could and fair play it worked today.
NBI Red Onion ffs thats the whole point, you can get at Barca, its the same complaint Arsenal make against us when we get in thier faces and fuck em up (not that I’m comparing them to Barca I’ll leave that to AW’s sycophants in the press). Barca can play good football but only if you let em.
@ mattbw7
Remember also that the Barca team comprised most of the Spain team that won the European and World Cup. They are a truly great team, better each year and the team to beat; I would like them in the final and for us to beat them while being able to play our own passing game not just defending desperately and chasing possession, that would be the ultimate performance Madrid are not quite in their league.
NBI Red Onion, well MUFC are not the England team thank fuck. As for getting our passing game together fuck that, how many games this season has that been really evident, I can think of Brum and BRFC, after that its been a mixture of a solid defense a barley able to cope centre mid, decent wing play and good forwards.
I can see a Madrid UTD final, only cos Maureen has worked Barca out and he can smell the prize.
mattbw7 … ok, so you don’t like tikka-takka as a description. To me, it’s not a phrase that bigs them up, because I don’t consider that it’s worth aspiring to. It’s just as bad if you say the “Barcelona style”, or “possession football”. It is a definite style and got to call it something. Maybe ‘boring football’, lol.
Red Onion … there’s nothing wrong with a counter-attacking style, catching the other team out by breaking with genuine pace and power and intelligence. It’s not the same as “parking the bus”. Parking the bus is what lower teams do to us in the PL, and it’s what Inter did to Barca in the second leg of the CL semi-final last year. But it isn’t what Real did today.
Chicken Tikka? With brown sauce.
No Stateside I hate the sycophantic way the press slavishly lavish praise on them, they are a good team no doubt but people ignore the fouls they conceded high up the pitch, which are never given and they are amongst the best at rolling over like they’ve been shot.
My reason for the dislike of the term per se is the way people use it as if it infers some kind of deep understanding of football that us mere mortals cant grasp, so I like to take the piss
To all who are alreading making plans to meet Madrid/Barca in the final..
We still havent gotten past Schalke. They are not going to be easy.
I expect difficult games against them. They have nothing else to play for this season. And they just thwacked the defening champs home and away.
Also, we play them between Arsenal and Chelsea. Expect our reserve midfield and Gibson to start one of those games.
NBI Red Onion @ 23:10: ” Real were lucky today, maybe Barca also got a bit tired in extra time but Barca should have more than put it away in normal time with the chances they had. ”
We must have been watching different matches because what I saw was RM with lots of chances – including the Pepe header off the post and the terrific save by the Barca keeper – whereas Barca were largely passing the ball around the perimeter. The second point about Barca getting tired in extra time is the weakness that TheArse almost exploited in the second leg, after getting at them in the later stages of the first leg. Their possession and attack-defence demands a lot from their playes and it leaves them physically drained in the later stages.
Barca are not the best club team in the world of all time, and their weaknesses have been exposed repeatedly at the highest level – UTD in 2008, RentBoyz in 2009 when Ovrebo did the MartinAtkinson, Inter in 2010, and by RM tonight. Having said that, it is also necessary to state that this “exposure” only occurs when they play teams who are also at the highest level. Otherwise they act like flat-track-bullies and, it can be argued, they flatter to deceive those who only see what they want to see.
Barca are vulnerable to a pressing-game and also to high balls. With the exception of Pique and CaptainCaveman, they are physically small but exceedingly quick. Usually their height disadvantage doesn’t come into play but RM took advantage of CR7′s six or eight inch height advantage on the winning header. It was the same on Saturday when Adebayor caused huge consternation. RM are not a great team but they do have a lot of individually-outstanding players – tonight they were all on the same wave=lenght and I happen to think that getting them on the same wave-length is a tribute to Maureen’s tactical management and his ability to break down his opponents.
The two-legged CL semi-final should be hyped to the skies – and deservedly so. But only one team can win and I feel reasonably confident that if TheLads can face either one of them it will be a “pick ‘em” game. Injuries and suspensions will also play a part – and so will blind luck. The winner of that semi-final is not a dead-cert to raise the CL trophy.
mattbw7 … yeah, I’m with you on that. Makes me want to puke, the way people suck up to them. Like I’ve said before, I do admire the way they press to get the ball back, but this business of endlessly passing the ball around does nothing for me, nothing at all. It really fucks me off when people crap on about how many passes they made (sorry, Denton!) and how much possession they had. I am not impressed by that at all. It annoys me that they would rather keep the ball and do nothing with it, than try to do something and risk losing the ball. That’s inherently conservative, which is why I laughed my tits off when Inter kept giving the ball back to them last year, because it exposed the futility of it all (boring as shit to watch, but funny in a twisted sort of a way, too).
Denton … that’s a pretty good post. I also noticed that Barca appear to tire late on … it was really obvious in the first leg against The Arse. Also interesting about the height thing. They don’t like height, and they don’t like speed down the flanks and balls coming in to the box. If we do play them, I feel sure SAF would use Rooney and Hernandez, but he’s chosen Berbatov over Hernandez before because of the Bulgarian’s height.
A lot of ppl seem to think that whoever wins the Barca/Real semi-final will be so worn out, they’ll be affected in the final. But there are 3 weeks between the semi-final second leg and the final — plenty of time to recover some energy. A more real issue might be suspensions, though. Especially given the way those Barca bastards dive, as Matt pointed out.
StateSideAussie – there’s still the little business of the glorioius 19th ahead of us. The next few weeks promise to be rich in entertainment. TheLads are scheduled to be stretched this-way-and-that with two high-stakes games a week between now and May 8th when the RentBoyz come to OT. It really is a matter of one-game-at-a-time, taking-care-of-business, and not-thinking-too-far-ahead – and whatever other cliche you can muster. This is what they play for – this is why Dimmy was so very right when he said that the best part of being a Manchester United player is “being a Manchester United player”.
Just imagine – one MartinAtkinsonMoment away from a four-peat AND semi-finalists five years running in the CL. Not too bad for a “crap” team.
I missed the first half of Spurs/TheArse – work does get in the way of more important matters, doesn’t it ? – and watched the RM/Barca match instead of the second half of the EPL game. The result from White Hart Lane was just terrific – imagine losing another two-goal lead to your nearest neighbours !
NOW TheArse still have to travel to Bolton, Stoke, and have another London derby in Fulham on the last day of the season – book-ending their doomsday scenario on May 1st against TheLads. I wrote last night that this could really go all pear-shaped for TheArse and instead of competing for first they might be hanging on for dear life to the fourth CL spot. Stranger things have happened.
One other thing – my comment about Barca’s 650 sideways passes was not meant to be some sort of “tribute”. To me, “Sideways” was the name of a pretty good movie because it’s sure not a recipe for footie success.
Anyways barca is a good team but i couldn’t be arsed about them right now. The focus is at home first. We MUST ( i mean ABSOLUTELY MUST) beat Everton. Play the strongest team available. I know we have Schalke on Tuesday but these are the times where we cannot afford to take chances and rest some players. I know we will win 19 starting with the smashing of everton on saturday, COME ON UNITED!!!!
Denton … the 19th is the number one priority this year. Like you, I wouldn’t be surprised if The Arse bottled it totally. They’ve got no spine. It will be interesting to see how SAF deploys our forces to deal with all these matches. For one thing, I can’t see Rooney and Hernandez playing every match, which means The Berb will have a role to play. And I don’t like either Hernandez or The Berb as a Lone Ranger. So we might see WR10 playing by himself in some matches, with Hernandez and The Berb together in others. The midfield options are equally important equally hard to figure out, especially as they relate to what happens up-front. So, exciting (and nervous) times ahead!
@ GoonerDave (and all other Gooners in ROM for that matter….)
I told you :
Watch this space…
Let’s see now what Wenger says about the penalty…
And oh yes, in the tone of your “future No. 1 goalkeeper” Sczesny or whatsoever name he has :
All together — “Thank you Sczesny, a big thank you for giving out the penalty and 2 points away, Arsenal rocks!”
Hahahaha..
I see Forbes latest survey reaffirms United as the world’s most valuable club. This was their football-only survey (not all-sports — Forbes call it their “2011 Soccer Valuation”). We are first for the 7th year running, valued at US$1.83bn. The Virus are second, at $1.45bn. The Arse third at $1.19bn. Bayern came in at fourth, at $1.1bn, and Barca slipped to fifth, at $975m.
By the way Giggs did not have an affair with Imogen according to legal grapevine – if he did I will change my name to Red Saurkraut.
@ Stateside Aussie
– your point re Forbes – one of the things that does piss me off a littke about CR7 is that several times not recently he has banged on about Madrid being the biggest club in the world – he should know better !
@NBI Red Onion we’ll just have to reaffirm that at Wembley eh?
Also good to know that it wasn’t giggs.
Kings hello mate. How dare you comment on parcel bombs. Fucking quality. Coming from someone who wished we played tica taca just like barca. Well that got em fuck all tonight. Fuck off barca. They looked fucked. The same fucking players play every single bastard game. Armstrong said fair play to pep for sticking with the cup side. Yeah great. A side that contained messi xavi iniesta villa who cannot buy a goal pedro. It was a full bastard team. Think that defeat will knock them. The horrible cunts don’t like it up them. Getting caught on the counter time and again. Anotyher two games against the fascists and both sides will be fucked. What the fuck is the point of all that possession if they can’t put the ball in the net? Pep. Ha. All he does is ponce about in his suits waving his fucking arms about. Great purchases too in ibrahimovic over rated beyond belief affelay and that cunt mascherano. I think barca are starting to get found out. Just like sevilla a few week back have a go and the midgets do not like it. Anyway enough of them suffice to say talkshite didn’t mention ronnies goal or the defeat once. Also. When the cunts win a few on ewnglish soil and get to two successive finals then I may join the barca lovefest. Until then stick your tikka takka up your fucking arses
Gotta laugh at the arsenal game. Shit bottling bvastards. Yeah mate that fabregas comment by smith was priceless. Silly cunt. Not fit to lace roys boots. What is with wilshire mooching about larging it like a tough guy?fuck off wilshire. Nasri as well. What a loathsome tosser. Their discipline for a so called team that play ot the right way accirding to the mail etc is awful. Cheating snide bastards. Think wilkins the boring bastard went a tad over the top on fabregas performance. These players NEVER step up the plate when needed. Fucking bale? Say no more. Well done spurs.
Really chuffed with the youth. They were fantastic. Mceichran who? Tunnicliffe absolutely nailed that cunt second half and bossed it. Morrison could be a genius. Will keane deadly. Well done lads. Great to see evra and obertan there.
King Eric … terrific post!
Fuck off cundy you fat orange faced rentboy. Trying to whip up a shitstorm about hernandez cheatiing at the same time waxing about chelsea and winning the title. How are you doing in europe you fat fucking mug?
Stateside. Thanks mate. Lkikewise yours about barca s “style“. Fucking boring mate.
Denton Davey as always Ravel was great on the ball. The kid just goes past players as if they are in another dimension. He picked out the right pass so many times and was MOTM on my humble opinion.
Tunners is going to be a monster player. Pretty quiet 1st half but bossed it 2nd half. Thundeous tackles, powwer driving forward runs. He is like a Tsumani when he gets motoring forward
Pogba was quiet in comparsion to Ravel and Tunnicliffe tonight, but in the 1st game atb the rentboys he was the best player on the park and pulled us through . Ravel was suspended for that one. God i do so hope he can get his head sorted.
William Keane is such an intelligent player reminds me a bit of Teddy.
By the way William Keane now has 11 goals in 10 games so far this season, which isn’t a bad stat even at youth level
Cundy is a prick. As always united are favouredd by the ref. Favoured in that carrick and Chicharito got booked for exactly the same things Newcastle players didn’t get booked for.
Lowencraps penalty at the start of the 2nd half(which I think was a penalty) Probit indicated he dived = no booking
Chicharito goes down in the box (again a penalty) Probit indicates he dived = Booking.
Carrick ran behind Ameobi and he tripped = Booking
Carrick making a break through the centre deliberatly brought down m by Guthrie = no booking
F*cking same old same old every time. As Fergi said a insult
Redharry4life. Spot on about youth game. Morrison not only ghosts past three players at a time and can pick out that killer ball his positional sense and ability to find space and always be looking for the ball is top drawer. An absolutely superb player. Tunnicliffe is my favourite though. Gonna be hard as nails. A right powerhouse of a midfielder. The last twelth months or so he has developed ten fold. A real presence in the midfield but can pass and also gets in the box. A great engine. A young keano.
Denton. Spot on at quarter to twelve mate.
COME ON UNITED! Destiny is still in your own hands!
Show no fear! Pursue the title! Play football!!!
I think next year, we will see a lot of youngsters coming through the ranks. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tunnicliffe, Will Keane, Ravel Morrison, etc stake a claim in the 1st team. As Fergie loves to do.
Just woke up……the mood on here seems to have changed a little from yesterday…..not as many negative cunts slating the team anymore!!!
mmmmm…………..
@Denton, King Eric, Stateside
barca wankfest times are coming to an end mates….! lol
Just hope Maureen does them in the CL….I know King Eric doesn’t like the guy, but the absolute loyalty that all of his players show towards him wherever he goes is very similar to Sir Alex. Have you seen the way the players at Inter, and now Real talk about him. Iker Casillas calling him a phenomenon and Sergio Ramos talking about following him to the death.
Plus Sir Alex also seems to like the humility and tactical nous of the man. I think he should be the right one to take over from him.
As for the youth team, am downright chuffed for them. Tunnicliffe did amazingly, especially in the second half and some of Morrison’s and Pogba’s passing was simply majestic. Will Keane always looks like he’s got time on the ball and his movement is absolutely fantastic, always in the right place at the right time a la Chicharito and a bit like Sheringham as someone mentioned above…just wish he had a bit more pace…
The Future’s bright..the Future’s Red….
CAnt wait to see some of them getting chances in the first team with cleverly, Joshua King and scott wooton already making rapid strides
great result for the youth last nite hope sone of these lads push on and break into first team squad
Look i’m gonna be honest. We have solid youngsters but not all will get into the main team next season. I mean we still have welbeck , cleverly , Bebe , Obertan , Macheda all trying to fight for spots. We are expecting to sign a Midfielder. I don’t think all of them can get in but a few have caught the eye like Morrison and Pogba and Keane. Yeah those three are ready for the jump.
PS: by first team i mean like 22 man team not like the proverbial 44 man first team.
Was at the match last night ravel and Ryan were quality. Chelsea were shite and were dirty bastards!
Forgot to say it was a disgrace you couldn’t pay on the gate no one I spoke to knew this before the they got there.
I really think this ryan tunniclife is one that could come through alongside morrisson, pogba and will keane, he will develop into one machine of a box to box midfielder, power and aggression never stops running and has quality.
I think we have some outstanding young players coming through, of course not all will make it but hopefully they will be given more chances during pre season, lets see who will shine on the big stage.
This thread could be finished, but I don’t fully agree this time. United played ok, the final concentration in front og goal was missing, like against City on the weekend. Could be that our central midfielders don’t provide enough, since they are focused on defending.
I don’t agree on Evra. I think he is outstanding. Like always he is the only player that plays every game. Never a game off, never. Every other player in the squad gets time off, never Evra. He got into the box yesterday, provided some good passes – but we didnt finish them off.
I think SAF chose the squad he did because he wants every player to get games, so Anderson needed playing time, and he most likely wanted Carrick on the field to cover up for Anderson.
I am happy United kept a clean sheet again – that bodes well for the run in.
I havent finished reading the post but I’m so happy that MG is back after he said he is taking time away. I was missing the defiance quotes. Now let me get back to reading
How befitting that it was Cristiano Ronaldo that got the goal to defeat Barcelona, lets hope that the tide starts to change. Barcelona really can be a nasty piece of work, they seem to have infected David Villa also. He was rolling around the floor like he had been shot, Pepe and Arbeola were having none of it and dragged him up. Seemed to make quite a remarkable recovery. Now that Ronaldo has broken his hoodoo against them who knows how many he can score now. Hopefully the media bias towards Barcelona and Messi will start to die down.
King Eric – Hello mate. Bollocks to all that tika taka shit, I wanna see a mixture of good football and smashing opposition players in the middle of the park, just like Robbo, Keano and Moses did in their pomp. I loved Moses mate, took no prisoners that guy. If you close and harrass them cunts they can’t handle it. Armstrong’s a fucking twat talking absolute nonsense, the only change Pep makes for the cup games is the keeper. His signings have been shit – Ibrahimovic is the most overrated cunt in world football and as for Mascherano, it’s great seeing that mentalist fall by the wayside, fucking useless pube head cunt. Yeah mate, both sides will be absolutely fucked by the time both legs are concluded. I hope it goes to extra-time.
Great seeing those mincing cunts choking again. All that stemmed from that cunt of a keeper winking at the camera after he took out the ape man. I knew he would get what’s coming to him after doing that and when he took out Lennon, I was wondering if he would wink at the camera again, funnily enough he didn’t. Fuck off Alan Smith you prick, trying to put that prick in the same bracket as Keano. That cunt has already made up his mind where he will be playing next season, the clue was in his assist for Barca’s first goal in the second leg. Now apparantly he has been saying some derogitory things about Arsenal and Wenger. Not really trying to engineer a move away is he? I really hope someone snaps that cunt Wilshere. I hate the way he thinks he’s the hard man, but is still happy to roll around on the ground like a little girl when he gets a clip. CUNT. Fuck off Nasri too you mincing little goofy cunt.
Mate, Wilkins is becoming more and more irritating with his gushing of praise of certain players. I’m sure he waits in the showers after the game so he can give them a human booster shot up their arse.
Fucking marvellous result by the youth team, putting them cunts in their place with a majestic performance. I really hope these boys get some first team football next season. I had a quick look on a Chelsea blog, the guy was constantly referring to Morrison as a crook in his commentary. Fuck off and die you rent boy cunt.
Mate that Cunty is a fucking bastard. He makes out he is a Chelsea legend, when in fact they couldn’t wait to ship him off to Tottenham in the early 90′s. He’s aggressive to people if they say anything out of turn about anything connected with Chelsea, especially the way he steamed into Natalie Sawyer on Sky Sports that time when they were condemning Terry after his affair with Bridges girlfriend. Horrible cunt.
I’d steam into Natalie Sawyer as well.
Kings – Morning mate. Top , top post.
Fabregas the new Keane? Ha! He ain’t got the mental fortitude. Even my old man noticed Wilkins was waffling last night. He’s really getting annoying. He’s a decent bloke, but he goes OTT on certain players. Great for the young bucks sticking it to the rentboys. Who do we play in the final?
King Eric – Cheers mate.
scott, did you ever think that giggs smiling about it was due to the fact he couldn’t believe he missed it? i think it was more an ironic smile than a “couldn’t give a fuck” smile
willierednut – Sheffield United mate. Two legged final.
Kings – Cheers mate.
willierednut – you’re welcome mate. Oh yeah I would steam into Natalie Sawyer too – get my head in between those fantastic tits.
Sergio Ramos dropped the cup during the open-top bus parade today and it went under the bus. The emergancy team managed to recover most of the pieces. What a prick.
RedHarry @ 2:01: thanks for the update. It’s frustrating to be on the other side of the Atlantic and kept in the dark about TheKids. If I was living in M/C – not quite “my heaven” but…. – I’d be more willing to go see TheKids than TheLads. First, it’s cheaper to see the U18s and, second, it’s usually a less regimented atmosphere with no prawn sandwiches, only keeners (pun intended). There’s something special in watching a work-in-progress.
The possiblitiy of Morrison, Keane, Pogba, and Tunnicliffe joining TheLads – just after Welbeck, Macheda, and Cleverley – seems very, very exciting. I’m sure that their progress in very, very closely monitored since the ability to fold homegrown talent into the senior squad is preferable to going out and buying unknowns in the marketplace. It also means that whenever an outsider is purchased then he should have the up-side potential to be truly special – like Rafael, Fabio, Chris Smalling, Nani, and Anderson (the guy who hasn’t even scratched the surface of his potential)
If this is the product of Glazernomics then it’s hard for me to fathom why some people bang on about “the debt” but don’t consider the other side of the equation – world’s richest, most valuable club, OneMartinAtkinsonMomnet away from a five-peat, five CL semi-finals in the last five years and so on.
It’s the product of Sir Alex and his staff. Not the Glazernomics. If we believe Fergie, that he’s always had the money to spend, then Sir Alex and his staff deserve all the credit, for this next crop of young players. He’s been reluctant to spend any money, maybe we’ll see why next season, in Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe.
Kings — top post, just read it over my morning coffee, cheered me up no end. Say, next time, why don’t you tell us what you really think about those cunts?
The prospect of seeing these youngsters has me drooling. I wonder when they will be ready? I know people deride the Carling Cup but it provides a relatively harmless way for these youngsters to get some time playing with grown-ups. It did us no good to have such an early exit this season.
StatesideAussie – Hello mate. Glad you enjoyed it. Of course I will mate.
Hopefully they will get some games in the first team next season. Morrison of course made a brief appearence in the Carling Cup against Wolves. Yeah hopefully next season we can have an extended run so the likes of Tunni, Keane and Pogba will get some games in as well as Morrison. Looking forward to the return of Cleverley too.
Just thought I’d add as a toon fan I was really impressed with your support – It made for a great atmosphere! I thought it was a good game of football at the end of the day and a draw was a fair result IMO.
I just have to disagree with Gaffer… Sunderland will always be our cup final!!