1. We would have taken any three points today. To get them on the back of a good performance and well worked goal is very nice. Everton were resilient and it was becoming a worry whether we’d be able to break them down, but we kept our nerve, passed the ball around well and were patient.
2. Chicharito, I love you. What a début season. Just when you think it can’t get much better for him, he pops up with a late winner like that. After blocking Nani’s on target shot with his arse in the first half, you wondered whether it was going to be his day. But his movement was great all game, always on the shoulder of the last man and had a good couple of efforts saved by Tim Howard. After picking up a yellow card for wasting so much time, I imagine he wished he just got on with it when Chicharito put us 1-0 up with just over 5 minutes left. Great header, well done lad.
3. Anderson deserves credit for his performance after playing through some brilliant balls for our forward men. He’s been here years so it’s weird not to have a conclusive opinion on him. Injuries have delayed his progress and at times he can be very frustrating. Yesterday he did well, which is all the more worthy of praise when you consider who his midfield partner was. It was a little disconcerting to see Jack Rodwell’s performance though, in light of the likelihood of him becoming a United player. He should have bossed the centre of the park yesterday but he was anonymous. Just back from injury so maybe we’ll let him off. And of course, I won’t complain if an opponent has a bad day against us but it did come as a surprise.
4. Whilst not the biggest fan of football clichés, I’m glad we’re getting to hear “he’s like a new signing” banded about. Antonio Valencia has been great since returning from injury and totally superseded my expectations. To suffer a broken ankle, you had to wonder whether he was going to come back at all this season. You had to wonder when he did come back, whether he would be the same player. So to have him back for the last three months of the season, playing as well as he is doing, is brilliant. I love how strong he is and how that doesn’t compromise his speed. I love how he runs at players and is so often successful at beating them. One of my favourite moments of the games was when he shrugged off Leighton Baines with ease when charging in to the box. In the lead up to the goal, it was him that won the ball back for United, before crossing to Chicharito at the back post. When a looking at a title that could go down to the wire, Valencia is making a big difference for us.
5. Fergie used his substitutions well and they made a big impact. I’m not entirely sure I agree with resting players at this season in the season, particularly against a side as strong as Everton, but he pulled it off. Michael Owen’s movement gave them a head ache at the back, now having to track his runs as well as Hernandez’s. Patrice Evra was on for just half an hour but it was one of his better half hours of the season. We looked far more likely to score with him running in to the box and pulling the ball across the face of goal. Ryan Giggs provided a greater threat too and his substitution allowed for a more central role for Wayne Rooney, who maturely got on with the task in hand for the last ten minutes or so. He came very deep and helped keep possession as we waited for time to run out.
Quick Reactions To Victory Over Everton…
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I was worried about to many changes to our back four.Needlessly it turned out courtesy of Evertons lack of ambition yesterday though I still think it was a likely problem had attacks came in.But ho- hum
Everton are a great club and I respect them but I dont expect them to be better than us when it comes to player development. If Rodwell does come to United, he’ll learn to become a MUCH better footballer. He does have great physique and an excellent shot on him.
Evra’s half-hour run-out perhaps is proof of some of the speculation about the reasons for his poor form. A little rest and it does wonders to his game performance.
nice reactions 2 the game…well done chicharito!!!
The game totally changed when Evra came on for O’Shea. At that point Nani was able to push forward as O’Shea hadn’t provided any attacking presence. Not a slam on him, it’s just not his style. When we offered an attack down both flanks the middle finally opened up.
I agree that Anderson had a good game, but people in my dad’s over-60 league that are half drunk have a better shooting ability than him. You think he would have a semi-decent shot on him.
watched the game last night, really entertaining
@Saad: I feel the same way about Everton. Even though it is considered to be a derby, I have no problems with the Toffees, because they are not a despicable club like our other rivals.
As STR said, it was a fully-deserved win, and I think that our team performance was better than any individual performance put in. Nobody in their right mind cannot help but have a love affair with Chicharito….
Chicharito Has Eclipsed All Of Ferguson’s Expectations
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/04/chicharito-has-eclipsed-all-of.html
I think Mike Phelan said it best regarding our team selection, we took a gamble and it paid off. Definitely needed the 3 points, I did think we pissed about with the ball a little bit in threatening positions but we won and thats all that matters at this stage of the season, performances are a bonus. Really impressed with the gaffers rallying call to beat l’arse and chelski. We do that not even our biggest critics can take the success of 19 away although I’m sure they will try. Expect Park, Scholes, Giggs and Carrick all to start on Tuesday. Am confident we’ll get a result in Germany after resting players. Anyone have any news on who Schalke rested on the weekend, heard they lost.
The team-sheet did scare me at first. Fergie found just another game to give Gibson his chance once more. Excellent man-management, in light of the result.
Was surprised to see Fabio playing at right-back while JOS could easily have been there. Can’t think of a reason other than the pairing of Nani and Fabio might be deemed as a little risky. Still, Fabio deserves decent chance to prove himself in his preferable position.
Anderson was excellent with his cross-field, long range passes. But over the 90 minutes, we could have shown more than that. Seemed liked we were relying too much on Javier’s pace and if that didn’t work, we kept shooting from mostly outside the box, hoping for one to get in. Berba’s holding skills were definitely missed. That makes me think, if there is any way possible to mix both these approaches, the unpredictability will scare the opposition defenders. May be Berba and Chicha upfront with Rooney making the play from behind them.
GET IN BOLTON!!!
Comedy GOLD!!!
Scott, great post. Proper team job that was. I knew it would come. Amazed at some of the nae sayers here when a match is on.
If Ando plays like that all the time, personally I couldn’t give a shit if he has a foot like a sherrifs badge when it comes to shooting. He was brilliant.
Come on Bolton
Every time I see Gibson on the Teamsheet my heart sinks.
He is abysmal and maybe Conference League standard at best.
We were a thousand times better when he left the field.
I AM NOT A MAN – I think we all know who is generally the weak point when he plays but, that is a huge exaggeration there. He’s a decent player.
I thought it was a good performance against a decent side. thrilled with Javier’s goal and Anderson’s performance. Hopefully Bolton will give Mr Wonka something else to whinge about. Sorry, I meant Mr Wenger, not the amazing chocolatier.
I hate slagging off United players but Gibson was a no trick pony yesterday. The game changed when he left. I am not sure whether he needs to go on loan again, even though he is older now. Some regular playing time may help him again.
In all our talk about Sneijder, it seems like we haven’t discussed Cleverly too much lately. Looking forward to seeing him back in our uniform next year.
Mes – there’s some proper wankers on here on a match day. They usually disappear until a match is on..
I am happy we won yesterday Chicharito is defenetly the buy of the season,Anderson played well i hope he keeps on playing like that the talent is there no dout about that..now lets go to German and win come on united we are behind you..Billy-G Tanzania(africa)
Rai, to be honest, I tend to give a lot of them the benefit of the doubt for being young. When I read stuff like “n e one” and “2nite” it’s clear they’re some way off finishing their schooling…
Gibson should go out on a permanent loan.
@Rai
spot-on. & it get kinda embarassing at times. thought i was on a gooners blog on matchday. fucking sick.
I think the solution to replacing scholes and to our midfield “problem” (not sure if you can talk of a problem when we’re top of the league) is obvious! Put Wayne Rooney in there! When he drops deep we really start playing good football – has happened quite a few times this year. His distribution is world-class and he can also fight and track back.In my opinion we shouldn’t look any further in replacing Scholes!
I also want to praise Owen. Great movement, always wanting the ball and really trying to make things happen. I hope we keep him for 1 more season. A great professional to have around Carrington …
the Arse 1 nil down at Bolton at halftime
The most amazing thing for me regarding yesterdays’ game is that Hernandez even conducted the interview for Anderson!
I’m surprised Anderson still can’t speak English, but Hernandez translated from Portugese to English and back, even though Spanish is his first language.
Hernandez really is the best.
Bolton PENALTY
Fucking saved
Bollocks. 1 all. Van Purse He
Come on Bolton I’m relying on you to give me some fodder to goad Piers Morgan with.
Bruce Thomas – were you one of the ones saying that about Fletcher a few years ago? Not being an arse hole, I’m just curious..
soft penalty for bolton in the first place. so fair game. unfortunately, gooners have pull a goal back. game on.
Halftime Bolton leading agnst the boys can’t get better than this
I really don’t like criticizing our own players. I will criticize individual performances in particular matches — slagging a performance is not the same as slagging a player — but looking back, I can see that one player whose performances often cop flak is Darren Gibson. I guess my main problem with him is his continued insistence on trying the long shot. Yes, he’s had some success with it, but the occasional goal doesn’t justify his persistence with it, IMO. It’s all too predictable, and if I can predict while watching, I’m sure the defenders can too. All too often, there are better options available that he either doesn’t see or chooses not to use. I can understand strikers being selfish in that respect, but a midfielder?
That said, he has pulled out a couple of terrific through-ball passes in recent matches. And as I recall, it’s only a year or so since another of our chaps kept doing a similar thing — Nani, with his turn-and-run across the edge of the box, followed by a shot. He too was a one-trick pony in that sense, yet he has developed into something more. Maybe Gibson will develop but even if he doesn’t, he can still be a useful squad player. Like JOS. (I can also remember the days when Fletcher was little more than a squad player, too.)
But if Gibson was to leave, I must confess I wouldn’t shed a tear.
Bolton 1-0 up against The Arse…
Kevin Davies is an idiot!!!!!
Bloody hell, forgot I am watching The Arse game on about a 30-minute delay, oh well, may as well fast-forward (I paused it while I went to walk the dog)…
Devil – Aren’t all penalties against The Arsenal soft? Ask Wenger if you don’t beleive me.
@Rai
It isn’t something I’m proud of, but I’ll admit I was one of the Fletcher bashing bandwagon five years ago. Age has shown me how stupid I was, which is why I have vowed never to write off any player that Fergie shows faith in- Gibson, Bebe and Obertan included.
swear watch
Bolton vs Arsenal
56th minute Daniel sturridge shouts “what the fuck was that for” ( twice) at the referee..
Xyth,he really is!all he can do is fight with defenders.Cunt!
@mes
LoL….tell me about it. I was having a go with some gooners on their blog yesterday when they claim we had once again bought the ref. a stonewall penalty denied & an offside goal by chicharito gifted us the 3 points. they are indeed an amazing lot i tell u. never failed to entertain me. completely ignore the fact we have 61% of procession, 21 shots vs 3 blar blar blar…..well a case of like manager like fans i suppose.
Dela – I think we’ve all been guilty of the odd grumble (Richardson springs to mind for me), and anyone who contributes to the team financially or via support should be entitled to an opinion. I just don’t understand how some people can slag off a player for 90 mins because one thing it doesn’t do – is help the team. Reading through the comments yesterday someone was criticising Hernandez’s runs saying he was making the wrong decisions!!!
Has it ever occurred to anyone that perhaps Gibson takes long rangers because management tells him to? Just a though but then again posters on here know best. Before anyone goes slagging off how he doesn’t score any more. Do you know how many league goals have come from central midfield players? 3. A MASSIVE total of 3. 2 of those from Fletcher and the other from Scholes way back in August. Try digesting that. Gibbo made up the numbers yesterday, didn’t light things on fire but didn’t do horrendously either. Scapegoat me thinks, thank fuck we kept a clean sheet other wise the pitch forks and burning torches would be out for Evans.
Good day all.
What a club we follow.
Tuesday provides us with more of life’s drama, for us the fan’s of the worlds most famous sporting club.
Never forgetting fan is short for FANATICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A FUCKING WIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO LOVE’S LIL PEA ??????????? WE ALL DOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO ROONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MES – I dont think I am being too harsh on Gibson. I really dont mate. I watch him every home game and often when he is not on the ball and he is hiding on the pitch many times, not making challenges,seldom closing players down and pointing to danger rather than taking resonsibilty to deal with it because he is the man who should be. He is not up to scratch for Manchester United by a long long long way mate.
I say Conference standard because I struggle to think of a Premier Team who would be better off with him in their side. I dont know if you go to OT mate and I know most dont but if you get a chance at the ground just watch Gibson for fifteen minutes in any game and tell me Im harsh then.
He is crap.
Sorry STR, Arsenal goodnight goodbye.Expect a bit more next Sunday.
bolton 2 : 1 arsenal
The Arse go down! Ha ha ha
The Arse fucked. 2-1 to Bolton. Fucked up The Arse!
Arsenal
Ahahahahahahahaha
Sorry, have I not laughed enough? Ahahahahahahahahahaha
come on Bolton !!!
so it’s down to rentboyz & us eventually. Come on United!
Well, this now all between us and Chelsea now – hopefully this takes all the fight out of Arsenal come Sunday and we can steamroller over them!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. L’arse will win the league!!!!
Hahahaha brilliant. Two horse race.
I’ll have my shot at Gibson too… Jus like everyone else
I’ll come ou and say he should be sold. Should not wear the United shirt..
The reason is this. He does not work hard enough god me. He doesn’t press the ball at all. Lol our other defenders . If you watch carefully. You will see standing and watching while our other midfielders run around trying to win the damn ball.
It’s not just me who noticed this . Ask trap.
It’s like we are playing with a midfielder less.
If you don’t work hard enough you are not good enough
@StatesideAussie
During the games themselves non-regulars show up and post some negative shit and some regulars go from criticizing to venting to bashing. Example this Zelh got very negative last game.
BOLTON SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There’s only one man who has the right to say who deserves to wear our shirt. His name is Sir Alex Ferguson.
What a game and what a league!!!!!!!!!!
GO ROONEY!!!!!!!!
COHEN COHEN COHEN COHEN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! THAT ONE WAS FOR YOUR DAD. MAY HE REST IN PEACE!!!! ARSENAL BOTTLING COMPANY!!! LOLLLL. but at times you gotta feel sorry for them at times. Especially fans who put themselves through all that nonsense. WOW. YESSSSSSS!!!!
Arsenal out the race now….just the rentboys left!
Hope we dont sign Rodwell….he’s overrated and overpriced.
Win all 4 of your remaining league games and you’ll win it eh Arsene? Fuck off you deluded cunt. Nice one Bolton. A draw and a win in our next two league games and we are Champions. Well hopefully anyway.
nice one Bolton! tomorrow’s headline: Wenger Blames Easter Bunny.
AnomanderRake – 100% correct my friend
It does seem like we have only 10 men when he plays and I cannot understand how Sir Alex perseveres with him.
Arse players look totally dejected. Surely we should get at least a point next Sunday and wrap the title.
The number of times wenger throw those bottles are equal to the number of times arsenal bottled up..haha
Zibbie … it’s immaturity, I think. Pisses me off, though.
Anyway, I can’t see The Arse clawing their way back up from here. If they had the stones to claw back (which they don’t), it’s too far, too late in the season. What’s that the bet Arsehole Wenger will never ever again talk about winning the Quadruple, silly prick.
@StatesideAussie
Agree about SAF as a fan I have a wish list for the 2-3 he said he might buy this summer and love the educated opinions of the Regulars here that are lifetime Fan’s and know so much more then I who have followed this great game for only 8 years and a fan of Man Utd for 7 of those.
Wenger’s reactions are some what fucking hilarious
@ Stateside Aussie 16.55 – Spot on. When the team is announced on matchday we should get behind every player as well.
thts the fuking diff btw arsenal n united
we score late
they concede late
Arsenal, lol.
@ statesideaussie
Well said. I expect Fergie to sell him soon.
Haha Arsenal lost. And the commentator just said Aestheticlly,Arsenal win the league every year.. WTF
Arsenal are finished for the season. Have consoled a Gooner friend of mine by politely reminding him that they were never good enough to win it anyway. Can’t defend corners, can’t bury their chances, not going to win the title. Simple as that.
How did this Bolton team lost 0-5 to Stoke???
Now the arse has totally fallen out of their challenge United may be able to get a point from our game against the mighty Arsenal next Sunday do you think.
@StatesideAussie -I went off on Zelh it pisses me off as well.
When I feel like fucking with people on line I go to Fox Soccer and fuck with the Gooners and Rent Boyz fan’s not on a dedicated site for Man Utd fans.
I said something about Becks that I thought was a snarky funny thing and got HAMMERED BY THE REGULARS!
THEN GOT IT I WAS WRONG NOT ON THIS SITE.
NotoriousRedDevil – Not such blind faith with me mate Im afraid.
When I see BEBE on the pitch I ask myself ” What was that deal all about?” and that is why I will always trust my own judgement over Sir Alex – I am not a better manager of course, who is ? But I have absolutely never had a hidden agenda and I am not 100% sure that is always the case with Sir Alex.
Horse Racing is a bloody expensive hobby.
I feel sorry for some of them but RVP , nasri and sneezy can SUCK IT. they’ve been bad mouthing us in the press for weeks. NO SYMPATHY AT ALL FOR THEM!!!!
That fucking Easter Bunny Cunt making the Gooners loose like that!!
If we beat Arsenal or even draw against them, we will open the door for City to overtake them in 3rd place. Lol.
Goodbye Arsenal. But, they can still do the rentboys a favour next week. I hope the lad that scored, wasn’t booked for taking his shirt off. His dad died recently and it was a nice touch. Common sense please.
Not sure if some may disagree but in my opinion I think the rule that makes players get booked for taking their shirt off is silly…. The Bolton player wanted to remember his late father after he scored and thus gets booked…. Pathetic really
@willie
He was booked. No mercy from the ref. Or not an ounce of intelligence. You choose.
A six foot Rabbit with a bad attitude, those big teeth and WHAM WITH ONE STRIKE YOUR DISS-IN-BAWLED.
2005 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2006 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2007 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2008 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2009 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2010 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
2011 – ‘We’re going to win the League this year’
Arsenal fans – Ensuring the Alzheimer’s ward is never empty.
Not really blind faith though is it I AM NOT A MAN. I questioned him in 95 but then again I was just a child, the next time I questioned him was replacing Ruud with Carrick. The way you slate Gibson is the type of dricel I expect from Wolves or Bobby Moore FC fan. Seriously we have 10 men on the pitch when he’s playing? Are you joking, do you watch the game? I’m not a season ticket holder but I’ve missed 3 games at home in 2011 and you’re making out he’s worse than Djemba Djemba. He’s not A Scholes, he’s a squad player. Our central midfield has been poor for a while, stop making him a scapegoat. Now l’arse have dropped points he won’t play in any meaningful games this season. He had to play yesterday due to the gaffer keeping the important ones fresh for Tuesday and Scholes stupid red card. As for Bebe, he’s doing okay for the reserves the fact he’s scored just as many goals as Anderson already says something. He’s got time on his side.
DISS-IN-BAWLED hehe spell check could’t even help me.
NRD
A kid in 95? Blimey I feel old! lol
Fantastic post mate, totally agreed
Someone @ Goal.com
Jo jeeta woh Sikandar, jo haara woh Wenger……it’s in Hindi…..just laugh…it’s a super line.
I still believe Bebe can turn into a damn good player. He’s still very, VERY raw. More raw than your typical youth player who goes through years of basic training on skills and football discipline.
I honestly believe Bebe can be molded into a Drogba-type player. Big, powerful, lightning fast with a cannon-of-a-right-foot. I say let’s give him 2 more years. I dont think it would cost us much to keep him on the books for that long. So I say patience with Bebe.
I don’t blame the referees lads, the dick heads who make up these silly rules, are the real blame. You just wish sometimes, that they would show some common sense. I suppose if the referee didn’t book him, the higher ups would sanction the referee. Crazy.
I thought these cunts were supposed to have the easiest run in.
Watching Wenger post game interview, damn he looks knocked out…….. Sort of feel sorry for him.. NOT
That’s it for Arse. I never doubted but never expected for it to be so sudden.
I don’t think that Rodwell is a god business. He is not even starting player for Everton, so how can he be considered for us. Also very goal shy. We have enough midfield battlers, so we need creators and I just don’t see him that way. One good game against us (from bench BTW). Moyes gives chances to the youth, but even then he can’t get a starting place. English media VS as far as I am concerned.
was fucking awesome to see wengers reactions from the touch line: throwing bottles, throwing the ball hard in the ground, sitting on the ground hands on his head
Kings
They were supposed to ice skate their way to the title according to some! lol
@KIngs
THey do mate. They are only 9 points behind.
Seen on ESPN Soccernet: “John Terry has claimed teams no longer fear Manchester United and that Chelsea’s opponents are running scared as they try to complete the greatest comeback in Premier League title history.”
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/910723/john-terry:-terry:-teams-don%27t-fear-manchester-united-any-more?cc=4716
Yes, Chelsea has the best form at the moment. Our home form is second to none, though. Come to Old Trafford, Terry, we’ll show you what ‘running scared’ means.
Gotta love the picture the ESPN staff picked to accompany the story, though. Delicious, delicious irony.
It’s not the place – but it is the time – for some schadenfreude because when the going gets tough, TheArse bend over !
As for transfer business – this season, we brought in Smalling, Chichirato and Bebe. Two out of three isn’t bad business at all. Regardless of who we bring in this summer, trust in the gaffer, he’ll bring us #20.
I don’t get this Rodwell Hype. I just dont get it. We’re linked with this fella year on year he’s probably gonna cost £20 odd million cos he’s young and British and I have never seen him run a game in his life. Anderson is better than Rodwell, as are Fletch and Carrick and Cleverley has had a bigger impact on Wigan’s season than Rodwell on Everton’s as far as I can see.
Knew Arsenal would bottle it today. Said that to my brother this morning. I could see them blowing it and I know we’ll beat them next week too. On the counter we’ll tear them to shreds. We’ve just got too much pace and power in our side especially with Tony V back and with Chico to run their centre backs…http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703396404576282862123434244.html
@walter mitty
hahahaha
just goes to show how true tiny tears was
How on earth is the Rodwell debate still alive? Jeez, I don’t want him anywhere near a United shirt and would much rather just keep playing Carrick or even Gibson. He isn’t starting at Everton and did nothing yesterday against, let’s face it, a makeshift midfield of ours. Just because it says he is English on his passport doesn’t make him good.
I expect Arsene Wenger to be a bit classier when experiencing loss and failure, rather than throwing bottles and falling to the ground in despair.
But I guess it’s nigh impossible to keep your cool when your team sucks all-kindsa-AAAASSSSSSSS!!!
CedarsDevil/Costas – Hi guys. Yeah they will still piss it, especially when they bash us at the Emirates next Sunday, with Nasri putting in a majestic performance that will seal a move to United in the summer. Seeing Wenger’s interview post match was priceless. I wonder where that Gooner cunt is who came on here and said he will be back when they win the title? Probably slit his wrists.
This result today gives us more breathing room to get to the Champions League Final as well as winning the league. We can put out the strongest team possible on Tuesday without having to worry about Sundays game. Especially as chelski play Saturday, am totally confident Spurs will get a point from that. Gives the manager lots of time on who to chop and change for l’arse if we don’t get the best result possible vs Schalke. So looking forward to Tuesday, whatever happens we need to grab a goal. Same as chelski rather a 2-1 than a 0-0.
@Passe
I agree about Carrick but not about Gibson, not when you’re comparing him to Rodwell. There is something about Rodwell’s talent and abilities that SAF really likes and that is why I still believe he could be a really good player.
Better to gamble on 20yo Rodwell than 25yo Gibson!
Well said Scott
Hahahaha The Arse bottlers lived up to their tag once again,fucking classless cunts who were too busy running their mouths about us faltering and us possibly bottling it,what a fuckin irony isn’t it,those bunch of tossers should look themselves in the mirror and really see who the bottlers are!
Hahaha again Mesouir Wanker is at it,“if we win 4 games we’ll win the league” oh fuck me will you,looks like he has the delusional syndrome,thinking they still have a chance,fuck off you moaning deluded man!
Was with a blue mate of mine and he’s like they’ll win the league,fuck me he’s deluded,I told him no chance,he’s like Arseanal have pride to play for next week,and I simply told him not to clutch at straws and that we’ll stream roll them next week!
Come On United!!!
Arsenal bottle it. I’m not shocked at all. I missed most of the game, found out Bolton missed a penalty and let Arsenal back in the game, still told my brother it was gonna be a Bolton win. It’s clear that this Arsenal team don’t have any steel, and they are never gonna win when it really counts.
On another note, good for Tamir Cohen.
Kings
I think the French Messi plays better while wearing a snood. There is no way on earth that cunt will ever have the pleasure of wearing a United shirt. SAF never signs cunts, of that I am sure
@Kings
Since it’s past February now, I doubt you will see any Gooners here. They usually show up during the first 6 months of the season, bragging how they will win the quaduple. And then they vanish as suddenly as Ando’s food does when Bebe sees it.
Here’s the updated stats after Arsenal’s loss to Bolton!
The probability that United win the EPL title is 90%
The probability that Chelsea win the title is 9.5%
The probability that Arsenal win the title is 0.5%
Arsenal are extremely unlikely to win. For Arsenal win they need:
1. Beat United and win remaining three games (not so likely)
2. United must drop 6 or more pts (from remaining three games) (maybe chelsea – 3 pts – but very unlikely against Blackburn or Blackpool)
3. Chelsea must lose 3 or more pts (from remaining three non-United games) (maybe Everton away, but unlikely)
In short, Arsenal are OUT! United are heavy favorites for title #19.
not looking too good for Arsene’s health, he’s having nightmares:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1379999/Arsene-Wenger-I-switch-night-stress.html
I am of the belief that we can no longer rest players for ANY games from here on out until after we secure the league title. I believe we should play our strongest side against schalke and also against arsenal and also against chelsea. So they’re gonna have to play through 3 gut wrenching games. The lads are extremely strong and fit so i think they can go through a run of four virtual cup finals. COME ON UNITED!!!
If you guys have a chance I urge you to watch the build up to our goal yesterday…… The header won by Owen, then Valencia chasing a lost cause which draws an error by Distin and then best of all Rooney running like a mad man to catch Hernandez in order to celebrate………. Bloody brilliant
This is how it feels to be UNITED
They may bend over and will get slaughtered for it over the next day or Two but be under no illusion the likes of Barclay in the Times will soon be exhorting Arsenal to show their beautiful football free from pressure against United under the guise of keeping the league open.In other words assist Chelsea’s faint hopes unless I am very much mistaken.
Saad:
Is SAF really interested or is it just paper talk? Imo Rodwell just isn’t worth anywhere near the 20+ million that has been thrown around. Also, looking at our kids playing in the Fa youth Cup this year it certainly looks as if we might benefit from trying out our own young promising players, rather than buying them from other clubs.
Robert S @ 16:03: “I think the solution to replacing scholes and to our midfield “problem” (not sure if you can talk of a problem when we’re top of the league) is obvious! Put Wayne Rooney in there! When he drops deep we really start playing good football – has happened quite a few times this year. His distribution is world-class and he can also fight and track back.In my opinion we shouldn’t look any further in replacing Scholes!”
Close – but no cigar. At this stage in his career, WayneBoy is definitely more valuable to the team in his role at the back end of an attacking diamond. His “lack of positional discipline” becomes an asset, not a problem and his energy, drive, aggression and vision all get deployed.
Besides, the midfield “problem” is sorted if MIchael Carrick can be partnered with the 2009 version of DarrenFletcherinho (“football genius”). Having Anderson come into his own would be terrific, too, since, as we see in glimpses, the potential is there but the realization of that potential has been episodic. So, if you are willing to grant that that’s a three-some then what’s needed is a fourth midfielder of comparable skill and ability. I’d like to see someone with the box-to-box engine of Michael Essien of 2008 – not the clapped-out model we are seeing nowadays – that’s why I’ve always championed Daniele De Rossi but another guy who has recently caught my eye is Matts Hummel of Borussia Dortmund (if you get a chance to watch Dortmund you’ll be pleasantly surprised – they have no forwards but a fantastic array of midfield talent in Nuri Sahin, Mario Gotze, Shinji Kagawa and Matts Hummel and some others, too – reminiscent of the FergyFledglings of the later ’90s).
When WayneBoy plays like he did in the CL and yesterday then you can see what a player he is and why SAF was willing to overlook his October/November indiscretions. He was awesome last year as the lone striker but he’s even better playing “in the hole” in that zone linking midfield and attack. IT would be a mistake to move him back – into the holding role – before he has had another five/six years as the attacking pivot.
dela @ 16:17: ” I have vowed never to write off any player that Fergie shows faith in- Gibson, Bebe and Obertan included.”
I have more hope – and “hope” is what it is – in Bebe than the other two. Unless there was some under-the-table hanky-panky about the signing of Bebe, you have to admire his up-side potential and wonder if he can realize it. Gibson just doesn’t seem to have that and while Obertan is fast, it’s not clear that he’s as good a footballer as he is a sprinter.
@Passe
Not sure how real is SAF’s interest in him and I do agree with you regarding his valuation. All I care about is that I think he’s really really good and I think SAF feels the same way and he could turn out to be a fantastic footballer and for that reason, we should get him and develop him at United.
As for our in-house youth are concerned, my hopes are pinned on Pogba, Morrison and W.Keane.
we must try to get nasri he has only 1 year in his contract 20 million surely
United4Eva @ 17:32: ” don’t get this Rodwell Hype. I just dont get it..”
You are not alone. But, you have to admit, he does look good in a uniform. He looks like a footballer but he’s not got the abiiity to match his good looks. Just like Jordan Henderson.
@saad. I agree with your post. I also believe so much in the youngsters especially pogba. that boy looks special. He looks too good for the reserves or youth team. Fergie being the wise man that he is will definitely give that boy a chance. another star in the making. Put him in the slot behind roo or whoever is playing upfront. or put him in the CM position where he can dictate. he has a ridiculous range of passing which is another requirement for a united midfielder. I see stars in his future that boy.
OPT @ 17:45: “Arsenal are extremely unlikely to win. For Arsenal win they need:
1. Beat United and win remaining three games (not so likely)”
Their final four games could be very, very ticky – UTD (h), STOKE (a), VILLA (h), and FULHAM (a).
Things could really go pear-shaped for them. Here’s hoping, eh ?
sachu – I don’t want that cunt Nasri at United. He’s a bottler.
sachu
Nasri? Do piss off buddy…….. If you like him so much go and become a gooner.
What a fucking piss take
forget rodwell sign nasri
Is it just me or is Nani’s form starting to dip ever since Valencia came back into the side. It just looks to me as if he’s trying a little too hard, as if he knows his place is once again under threat. He’s been great all season but the last couple of months or so haven’t been going too well for him. Maybe somebody should tell him to relax and that there’s room in the side for both Nani and Valencia. I know they both started yesterday but to see him substituted after 62 minutes started to give me flash backs of the old Nani. I’m not trying to criticise him here, after the season he’s had and what he has done for us he’s more than entitled to a little dip in form.
@ cedars i dont like him but ididnt like owen either wen we signed him nasri is young world class surely we got to atleast try i hope u agree cedars
In sacchu’s defence lads. Four Four Two did an interview with Cantona in 2009 I think and they asked him who the best French players of the future were. He said Nasri and Benzema. Both intensely disliked on ROM. I’m not sure if he said we should sign them but I distinctly remember being pissed off when l’arse signed Nasri, thinking there goes Cantonas recommendation. No need to worry Nasri won’t wear the United shirt. Theres a better chance of the glazers reducing our ticket prices.
byron1970
Nani has been having a dip in form I agree but I doubt it has anything to do with the return of Valencia…. Nani has been having a fantastic season ans its only normal that he will have a dip in form. I fully expect him to pick up his form over the last few games.
sachu
Unless you are joking mate, please fuck off
@byron1970
Nani is a full degree lesser player when he plays on the left side. It’s the one thing about that makes him obviously NOT as good as C.Ronaldo. Ronnie was good on either wing. Nani is much much better on the right wing than he is on the left.
Fergie should target these players out of the list below to buy or recall;
1. Sneijder £30 mil max ……Inter are targetting modric or Nuri sahin as a replacement
2. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain £12 mil max…..Loan him back for 6 months To sweeten Deal
3. De Gea £21 Mil Max ……….VDS to train him
4. or Rene Adler £15 Mil max ……Really wants to join his dream team and great goalie
5.Recall Cleverley & Welbeck as replacements for (owen or Berba) & (Gibson or bebe or obertan)
We could do with a minimum of 3 of the players above (sneijder, de gea and Chamberlain)
Must Sell or release (owen or berba), Bebe and gibson or macheda
& Bring Through the Knew Golden Generation: Rafael, Fabio, Pogba, Tunnicliffe,Ravel and Josh King/ Welbeck
@notorious red devil well sir lex did say we will sign 2-3 players 1 is a gk i cant see us signing sneijder and i am sure u will agree that spending 25 million on nasri is better than rodwell whois quality but injury prone and remember flamini went from arsenal for free so there is achance nasri will go
I’d have agreed with Sachu if Nasri wasn’t such a royal prick. Highly talented, no doubt…but a lousy, Goonerish prick!
sashu
Nasri is NOT world class mate, far from it. Therefore I disagree with you.
NRD
Cantona may have talked him up mate but personally I do not want him anywhere near OT
Byron1970 @ 18:07: “Is it just me or is Nani’s form starting to dip ever since Valencia came back into the side.”
It’s just you. Even yesterday, Nani did fine as far as I could tell – he would have had a goal too but Chicharito was on the ground and deflected the ball. Don’t forget, Nani is better on the right side but he has had to shift to the left to accommodate Valencia who left foot is rarely used for anythng other than balance. In fact, I was surprised that yesterday Nani didn’t take advantage of his left-sided role and cut in to shoot on his right foot – for a while it looked like that would be the only way to beat Everton’s massive size-advantage in their box. BUT Chicharito’s vertical leap makes him play like a guy who is 6’7″ , not 5’8″.
Nasri would never start ahead of Valencia and Nani in my team. A good back up, but I don’t think we would pay over the top just to have a player on the bench.
My main worry at the moment is accomodating Antonio and Nani. Since Valencia’s return, Nani’s goals and assists have began to dry up and it may have to do with the fact that he plays on the left.
NRD – I rated Benzema mate, but that has passed us by now. I just don’t like Nasri. I’m sure rival fans didn’t like Ronaldo. There is something about him, that I find really annoying. Don’t think Scholesy likes him either lol.
Oops, sorry. I just saw that Byron and Saad raised the same point about Nani. I agree with them then.
sachu … you mean the same nasri who, when guarding the post at a defensive corner today, couldn’t even be arsed to take his hand off the post when trying to prevent the second goal — the goal where the ball whizzed straight past his static head to effectively end his team’s season? That nasri? No thanks.
@ CedarsDevil I can’t say I blame you. The guy has a despicable personality which the media fails to pick up on. I wouldn’t want him anywhere near OT either because of that. The best example I can compare it to is when we were linked to Viera in his peak. Had he ever joined us I would never have cheered his name.
CedarsDevil – Absolutely mate. I was only joking. I would hate it if that snood wearing mincing goofy litte cunt signed for United. Yeah Fergie will never entertain the idea of signing a cunt like him anyway.
Costas – Yeah mate, they tend to get mouthy up until February, then when the inevitable collapse occurs they disappear of the face of the earth. Yeah that Bebe loves his food. Be interesting to see what would happen to Suarez if he tried to bite him.
@ willie who do u think we should sign and why
ahahaha Arsehole Wenger looks totally shattered in the post-match interview, cunt looks like he’s ready to burst into tears, “boo-hoo-hoo, I just want to crawl into a corner and have a good cry” hahahaha!
@Sanchu
Nasri is a talented player, no doubt, but wearing the red shirt means fuck to him. That is the difference between the Goons and us- they have a talented squad, we have one that gives a fuck about the team and its history. Nasri could go on to become the next Zidane but I still wouldn’t want him in our team.
@Denton Davey
I for one don’t comprehend how our own supporters can slag Bebe off as much as they do. He was terrible in that Crawley game, I’ll admit, but he has never been much of a crosser/passer. As Saad pointed out in another thread, if we could groom him into an out-and-out frontman, we might have in our hands the next Drogba (minus the diving and the play acting, of course).
Sorry @Sachu, not Sanchu.
Why the hell are we talking about Nasri here BTW? The guy is made of paper. One swat from the likes of Anderson and he falls down like a fly. I hate him as much as I hate any Arsenal and Barcelona player. They think they deserve protection because of some divine right that they play proper football. I don’t want him anywhere near the United shirt.
On the other hand, one person I wanted and still do is Sneijder. I think he has a lot of the qualities that make United players. I don’t think we will get him now with the likes of Cleverley, Tunnicliffe, Pogba, Morrison coming through. But if you offered me one player I would take him.
Arsenal again choking. Was it ever in any doubt? Wonder what Wenger thinks of his “We will win the title” comment now. Delusional idiot!
Anyways, beat Chelsea at home and we win the title. That result has made the game at the emirates almost inconsequential.
Nani hasn’t been his brilliant best since Carragher done him. Every player has troughs and peaks, he’ll come good again.
I’d love us to buy Sneijder and DeRossi. with Nani and valencia on the wings we’d be awesome again and it would give the younger lads time to get a bit more experience playing for us rather than on loan. I personally don’t want Nasri anywhere near our team, his ego is bigger than his ability, much like Wilshere, Balotelli etc.
@cedars who do u think we should sign and how much
@Balaji
It wasn’t just the title mate. Wenger was actually discussing a quadruple just two months ago. Hindsight can be hilarious sometimes.
What the fuck is this? 10 questions time?
Who and why?
Some players will never and should never have the pleasure of wearing the SHIRT that is United. Nasri the prick is one along with many others out there…………….
Little Pea on the other hand is more than welcomed
willierednut
In fairness he was excellent against Fulham first half… and Chelsea second half when he came on at SB… other then that he hasn’t been great I agree!
Cyril Sneer
So that we would be awesome again????? We are awesome already mate
And how much does anyone think The Arse would want for Nasri anyway? I don’t usually throw names around because I think it’s pointless, but if rumors are true (and they usually aren’t, of course), then Sneijder may be available and willing this summer for around 25 million, and de Rossi for 18 million. I would rather have either of those than nasri anyway, and at that sort of money, it’s no contest because I can’t see The Arse selling nasri to us for a penny under 25.
Lads come on. I for one feel for the fans for l’arse I mean this season they’ve torn their Quad, lost the Treble on their radio, too young to drink a Double, and on Easter Sunday haven’t a Single thing to be thankful for!!!
My team for next season:
Adler
Rafael Vida Rio Evra
TonyV Cleverley Carrick Nani
Rooney Chicha
Bench: Lindegaard, Giggs, Fletch, Welbeck, Fabio, Smalling, Evans
Who needs Sneijder and de Rossi?
And I haven’t even mentioned Tunnicliffe, Pogba, Morrison, King and Macheda. Whoever said our squad needed reinforcements
I was at the match on sat anderson valencia very good games. i would not spend a fortune on rodwell as for gibson that was worst performance i have seen for a long time if you watched him when cahill came on he did not have a clue what to do with him every run cahill made he was no where to be seen trapp says he needs to leave to get games who will buy him ffs
@denton davey
Gotta disagree with you there.Obertan is quite the skillful player, yeah he’s fast but his main asset is his ball skills. I’ve always said that bebe will be a romantic story. He hasn’t featured much even with the reserves but i see a very bright future for the lad. maybe a loan spell for him next season
well in all honesty i hope we get 1 among sneijder de rossi modric nasri plus de gea plus cleverley welbeck macheda and more oppurtunities for morrison and pogba
I agree with Cedars, what’s with the questions as to who we should buy? Let’s concentrate on bagging title number 19 and hopefully European Cup number 4 as well. The issue of signings can wait until May 29th when the season is officially over.
dela – This season ain’t over yet! Let us bask on a potential 19th title, before we think of next year lol.
I personally will love Sneijder if Fergie must buy a player…
But I believe in the young academy products too, especially Tunnicliffe and Morrison. Let Fergie does what he should.
@ state side aussie do u think inter will sell sneijder for 25 million they got 40- 45milloin plus etoo for ibrahamovic
@Cedars – oops, sorry mate, bad turn of phrase. It just seems like there is something missing and I’d rather an experienced player in there while the younger lads get experience a little at a time. I miss that feeling of seeing Keano on the pitch, a proper nasty bastard who will fight wars for us. I wont say anything bad about our players but I want a midfield General in there.
@willie
Lol, I know. Just got carried away by all this talk of Nas-er-i, Sneijder and the rest.
Bring on Schalke!
@denton davey That’s kind of my point, if Nani is better on the right then he is simply not going to play on the right if Valencia is in the team. Like I said though, he is entitled to a dip in form after all he’s done this season. Lord knows where we’d be if he didn’t have such a great season. He’s just going to have to get used to playing on the left I suppose if he’s going to start along with Valencia and he’s more than earned the right to be given the time.
pritch … cahill’s no superstar but he’s no journeyman either. Gibson did have a poor game but it’s no shame that cahill got the better of him, he’s made a monkey of better players than Gibson before. As for who would by Gibson, plenty of teams would for the right price. He’s a capable player, and even if people think he’s “not up to the United standard”, he could do well elsewhere. And I do mean in the premier league. Like many others who didn’t quite make it here. A club like ours, maybe only the top 10% of PL players are good enough to be regular first-teamers. But by any measure, the other 90% are still good players — just not good enough for us, that’s all.
sashu
What the fuck is it with your delusion about signings? We have a number 19 to win along with a possible 4th CL………. Save those intelligent posts for the summer mate…
Cyril Sneer
A Keano or a Robbo type will always be welcomed in my books but for now we have to do with what we have and give our support to the team
Will so-called United “fans” stop slagging off Gibson. He had a decent game against Everton. The poor bloke has never had a decent run in the side, how the hell can you expect him to develop? Give him a chance, the more he plays the better eh will get. Everyone needs at least a couple of seasons with a regular starting place to establish themselves. Same thing goes for you wankers slagging off Bebe, he’s only been here 5 minutes.
Rodwell made his first attacking move of the game after Gibson got subbed off. Just saying. Wasn’t a great performance by Gibson, but it wasn’t anything terrible either.
watch this and your own mind up . He distroyed Chelsea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibpFzhc7dU4&playnext_from=TL&videos=R2Aci10RrqA&feature=sub
sachu … I have no fucking idea how much Sneijder would cost. Nor do I know if he’s really what we want or need. Like I said, I’m just recounting rumors. In terms of price, the rumor was that Sneijder has had a falling out with whoever’s currently having a ride on the coaching roundabout at Inter, and so they’re prepared to let him go.
But the only point I was trying to make is that if it came down to it, I’d rather have Sneijder than Nasri. Wouldn’t even think twice about that one. Same with de Rossi too.
I want Iniesta.
@Scott – love the Valancia GIF … do you know how to get a GIF of Chico’s celebration? With the Stretford End going ballistic and him jumping about ten feet in the air after confirming with the lino that he was onside. One of my favourite moments!!
Come on Reds!
StatesideAussie
Always knew you had a decent brain! lol
Great post buddy
@Costas
Me too. And Messi. And Ronaldo. And Pele. Oh wait…
Costas … do you mean, you him for United? Or did you have something else in mind? lol
Ando was class, Hernandez was brilliant, Rooney was pulling the stings, Distin was frightened to death of Valencia.
I would like to say though I though Jonny Evans was absolutely brilliant yesterday, he bossed everything and looked very comfortable!
oops. “do you mean, you *want* him for United..”
United need players like Gibson. Most likely a hard worker on the training field and aperson that can come in once in a while and give the big guns a rest.
Given that Owen H and Scholes (most likeliy is retiring) don’t think that SAF will sell Gibson. The reason SAF rebuilds AND wins trophies, is because he never replaces too many at once – only 1-3 players.
So relax and be happy that United have players who don’t whine and create bad vibes when they don’t play regularily.
Reading StatesideAussie’s post about Nasri made me realize why Arsenal won’t win anything. They care too much about playing beautiful football. People who care too much about beauty are too hesitant to get their clothes dirty. In football, you have to be prepared to get the uniform really dirty if you want to win trophies.
Dirtied…sullied…bloodied…burnt…bruised….torn….ripped….shattered….everything…you’ve got to be willing to allow all those things to happen to you if you want to win the gold.
Cedars – A keano or Robbo? If only mate.
dela
Pele would be a decent signing…… as for the wishes of Costas, just ignore him mate, he is high on kebabs…
Macheda the Messiah
Agreed, loved the way our Little Pea celebrated, fucking brilliant
Cedars … cheers mate!
@dela
And Emile Heskey of course. Never forget him.
@Stateside
Come on mate, I don’t roll that way.
Gerrard Pique on the other hand…
fucking moron rednapp on sky thinks schalke will beat us
Sneijder is the best mid field player in the world , If he is availble buy him no one comes near him, and he has a Dutch attitude if you Know what i mean
@vILHELM28
I will have to diagree mate I have never seen a player look so disinterested in what was a hige game for us.
Technically strong but lacks in agression and drive, he could have cost us the game yesterday, you probably couldnt see on TV but at the game live he was just hiding not wanting to pick up Rodwell, Rio and Ando gave him a right rollocking.
He needs to raise his game as Tunniclife is impressing and Gibson is no kid now, he should be established.
As we’re discussing fairytales anyway, I want Melina Pitra. And Hayley McQueen. And Melissa Theuriau.
Willie
Imagine them both together in the same team…………. Fuck me, I would hate to be an opposing player
Cedars … “Save those intelligent posts for the summer mate” don’t remind that the transfer window is coming up. thunk i might disappear from this site for the break, honestly, I can’t stand listening to people crap on about buying this guy and selling that guy, drives me potty. I’ll have to put up with some of it of course, the new season starts while the window is still open…. anyway, out of here, back later.
Just a point on Michael Owen. I think we’d be mad not to offer him a one year contract. I thought he was excellent when he came on yesterday and you could just see the experience oozing out of him. He won’t cause any fuss when he’s not even on the bench let alone in the starting 11 so to miss out on the chance to keep someone with all his experience would be wrong. What team in the world has a 4th (or 5th) choice striker of his quality. There’s no baggage with this guy so it’s a win win situation keeping him around. Plus he annoys the fuck out of the Liverpool fans whenever he scores.
Iniesta would need bone-transplant surgery at the end of a typical Premier League season.
But still…awesome player.
Look i hate Nasri but i can’t deny the fact that if he was on our team. He’d contribute A LOT to our success and we won’t need to buy an attacking midfielder anymore.
Sorry about the joining in on the transfer spec… but its lashing ere and I’m bored so I said I’ll join in!
@dazbomber
I remember that game Sneijder tore them to shreds with quality pass after quality pass.
Would be great at United.
dela
You are a horny RED…… Nothing wrong with that mind you..
Dream away mate!
Hello I have some reading to do. Very prolific in 1 1/2 hours. I see some transfer talk. Cool.
Any one seen that 6 foot Easter Bunny? The things we tell kids. And a fat white bearded man brings you presents with flying Reindeer. Now come on the people who made this shit up? They were in a cabin in the woods in 1642 the cabin fever set in with home made potato 140 proof white lightning, chased down with a special wild mushroom tea. Any why if you see that big Rabbit AW wants to see him and ask him why he made his team loose today.
When he’s fluffing the one skill that is supposed to be his forte, you know that’s when the boy has to go.
Bye Gibbo. Thanks for the effort.
@ byron if we give owen more time wat happens to welbeck and macheda
StatesideAussie – It’s like that on here most days. It will be turned up a notch in the summer. I like discussing targets, but ones that we can realistically bring to United. Not fucking fantasy!
Sneijder would absolutely murder everyone in the Premier League if he played for United. He’d love having superbly capable players all around him to take the pressure off of him and thus allowing him to play with freedom of expression.
A Sneijder-Fletcher or Sneijder-Carrick or Sneijder-Ando midfield would do very very very very fine for United.
StatesideAussie
No worries buddy, piss off for now……. Talk to you later my friend
willierednut
Do you think Sneijder is realistic or just fantasy?
We Need to sign these 11 players !!!
Rob Green
Alcaraz
Anton Ferdinand
Squilacci
Luke young
Joe Cole
Jermaine Jenas
Graham Alexander
Adel Taarabt
Rodellega
Charlton Cole
@Cedars
Happens to me every Sunday when United aren’t playing. I am at my horny worst during the summer break though
On another note, I honestly don’t see what Nasri would bring to our side. He is too similar in style to nani- the issues we have are in centre mid where we need to find a replacement for Scholesy. Sneijder seems to be the obvious choice, though I would love it if Cleverley fills the void.
Giggs11gerrard. Hello mate. You well? Yeah hate slagging players and usually I have no problem about gibson. BUT I pointed out exatcly what you said yesterday. In the second half gibbo was hiding. At one point he was on edge of box in space and edwin wanted an outlet. Gibbo would not show himself. He was literally hiding. Edwin was furious. Carrick fletch and scholes always pick the ball up. I actually felt a bit sorry for him as he couldn’t get off the pitch quick enough. I think yesterday was gibsons nadir.
Well done bolton. I knew arsenal would drop points. I said before it would not surprise me in the least if they don’t win another game this season. Pansy cunts.
i highly doubt sneidjer would be leaving inter Anytime soon, don’t get me wrong he is a fantastic midfielder and a match winner but i’d be shocked if united signed him.
@ 17:48
denton davey says great post. When I learned how to use the computer 4 years ago to go on line on the Fox Soccer thread and ESPN to ask questions and learn more of the game. Some of us saw this as Rooney,s natural evolution into the hole. A Totti type with more mid field responsibilities.
His energy is his game and his defense feeds his offense. Now SAF has made up his mind going forward it is Rooney and Lil Pea time to shine and with the young ones and he wants the perfect additions to battle Barca and Real for CL tittles.
@sachu I’m only saying keep him around because he seems to be happy to chip in and help whenever we need him. It wouldn’t be at the expense of Welbeck or Macheda. I just think at the moment we’d better off keeping him for another year. Besides, I think Welbeck will have a part to play next season but I can see Macheda going out on loan again. I think a full season playing regular football would do him the world of good.
You lads who are bashin’ Gibson just arn’t listening. Thank god SAF doesn’t pay ya any mind lol!. Evra needs a rest and so does gives giggs, and carrick. Scholes is still suspended. Thing Ando and Gibbo were an excellent choice. The only problem was or finishing which gibbo shouldn’t been blamed for. We were shocking in front of goal in the first half. Could have been 2 or 3 up and that’s a fact. Only play our top 11 till the end ya say? Must be joking. That there is a recipe for disaster. The squad is strong and the only way to keep it thus is to play a rotations. The boss got the tacktics spot on. Use the second team to try to nick it, not done, bring on some extra quality and turn up the tempo for the last 15. In case you forgot. WE WON! Could have been 4 nil, but I’m rather more pleased with the win. Thank SAF for having the bench make it happen. Arse don’t have that. Giggs and Evra rested, top of the league. Get off!
Ryan – I don’t think we’ll sign Sneijder. Also, 25 million wouldn’t nearly be enough for him. If I’m wrong, so be it, but I can’t see it happening.
@ ryan dunny the rumours r fucking cocksucker tevez is joing inter for 50 million so they will have to sell sneijder to raise money just hope shitty dnt get him
King Eric
‘Pansy cunts’ Fucking love that quote mate………… RoM legend you are
dela – Ice packs come in handy mate, just ask Willie
@KIng Eric
Forgot to comment on that yesterday. I have to say that watching from the telly, Gibson’s performance didn’t come off as bad. Didn’t even see what happened with Edwin. What I noticed, was that after he failed miserably with his shots, he wouldn’t dare try again. His confidence in that department has really been shot.
Someone mentioned Edwin shouted at Gibson, the lad is clearly lacking confidence. Could see him leaving in the summer. At his age, he needs regular football. It’s not easy being a bit part player. Especially at United.
To Byron’s point, if things don’t work out with Berbatov, I think there’s a good possibility that Owen will stay next season. We will need his experience in case Rooney or Chicha get injured.
sachu
Give it a few years mate, when you hit puberty you will realize the meaning of life and therefore other things will just fall into place
Nasri, good player but would I want him at OT???HELL NO!!!!!!!..A prick of the highest order..I would much rather have a Keano or Robbo in my team..A typical box-to-box beast..Hence I’m waiting for Fletcher to regain his 08/09 form..
@KIng Eric
To be fair to Gibson though, after we scored and we were keeping possession, Anderson also went missing and wouldn’t look for the ball when Rio and Evans were playing it back and forth, I remember Rio shouting at Anderson for that as well.
Cyril Sneer @ 18:31: “I’d love us to buy Sneijder and DeRossi.”
One of them is a “maybe” but both would be unlikely considering the talent in the pipeline and, of course, the fiscal reality of Glazernomics.
APRIL 24, 2011 AT 18:58
Costas says:
I want Iniesta
ME TO!!!!!!
ME TO!!!!!!
ME TO!!!!!!
ME TO!!!!!!
ME TO!!!!!!
ME TO!!!!!!
dela @ 18:37: “My team for next season:
Adler
Rafael Vida Rio Evra
TonyV Cleverley Carrick Nani
Rooney Chicha
Bench: Lindegaard, Giggs, Fletch, Welbeck, Fabio, Smalling, Evans
Who needs Sneijder and de Rossi?”
OTT about Cleverley – Fletcherinho is much more likely to be first-choice in central midfield and SAF said as much the other day when asked – “Darren will go right back into the first team when he’s back to fitness”.
I also see that you’ve counted Dimmy out of your reckoning- I think that he’ll be back for next year because he adds versatility, variety and depth.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see SAF add another central defender – no one is better than Rio but Rio is getting wonky. As TheArse have proven this season, you simply cannot have enough quality central defenders.
@cedars wat do u mean
Just thinking how spoiled we are compared to the Scousers who are always banging on about their ‘pedigree’ but rarely produce any real talent and spend their time chasing after players we consider ‘average’ like Charlie Adam.
As for Gibbo slagging..Everyone knows he is a decent, average player..Fans expecting more from him will obviously be disappointed..Think SAF wants to use him as a squad player more than a 1st team player..I’m sure people will be surprised with his performances if he gets a continuous run of games..
slim @ 18:39: “Gotta disagree with you there.Obertan is quite the skillful player”
I’d like to agree with that assessment but I just don’t see that Obertan offers much besides foot-speed.
About Bebe – yeah, it would be a terrific story. And I do wonder about the speed and urgency of the transfer which certainly suggests that he is either awesomely talented (but still raw) or else some under-the-table hanky-panky. We’ll find out more about this over the summer and next year – he will either step up or be one more Dong.
IMHO a ball winer a ball buster in his late 20′s early 30′s to transition Tunni and Pogba. Parker or is my blood sugar off?
CAM/winger/in the hole striker. Sanchez, Schnjder
A younger more talented John O’Shea type.
A keeper of SAF choosing as they will all be, I just have fantasy of thought.
THE RUN IN FOR 19 IS ON!!!!!!!!
CL GAME ON TUESDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A CLUB !!!!!!!!!!!
BEST LOVED AND FOLLOWED SPORTING CLUB IN THE WORLD FROM MY HOME OF DUBUQUE IOWA USA TO YOUR HOME TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am a big berba fan there r nasty rumours of him giong back to spurs just hope its false
Wat do I mean is exactly what I mean………Google it and you will learn……. Might help you with your spelling as well
Every Championship side needs squad players and Man Utd has theirs and some like Fletch become 1st team players that give all hope. Thats why I type of a younger more talented O’Shea.
Cedars – Whats up grouchy pants?
Zibbie being a Zibbie…. Bloody love it mate, a Zibbie red you are Zibbie
@Cedar
What is your favorite color?
What is your favorite food ?
What is your favorite sexual position ?
What is your favorite place to watch a sunset?
What is your favorite part on my name?
That is five of the 9 questions left of 10, I don’t want to hog them all.
Why are some people so obsessed with Sneijder??The lad is a top quality player, no doubt..I personally would be shocked if SAF signed him..But even if we don’t I wouldn’t crib about it..we have always found a great alternative even when we didn’t get a certain player..We didn’t get ozil, benzema or villa but we got Chico and Smalling and look at their contributions to our success this season..I would love to see the next set of Fergie’s fledglings come through next season..Hope SAF gives more game time to Pogba, Morrison, W. Keane and especially Tunnicliffe aka young keano next season..
@denton
Oh darn, how could I leave out the Berb? Honest mistake- I love the lad to bits.
I just thought Clev might get more games with the flair we’ve lacked in the centre. I have a feeling he’ll stick with Carrick and Fletch in a 4-4-2 while he might throw in Giggs or Clev if we’re playing 4-5-1. Then there is of course the question of Rooney dropping back a lot more, in which case we might not even need a replacement for Scholes. We are in for quite a season.
We could do with some defensive reinforcements, but I’d prefer a player who can play across the back four- someone who can replace OShea in the longer run. People have been mentioning Rodwell but I havent seen enough of him to pass a judgement.
Well, I’m back, but only brief (everyone breath a sigh of relief)…
Here’s my take on the squad. What I find interesting about United is that if you look at the way SAF organizes it, we actually have a very small “core” of “guaranteed starters”. If we ignore injuries and fitness and schedules, then as far as I can see, SAF has a core group of only five players: VDS, Vidic, Rio, Evra and Rooney. These are the players who, even if their last couple of games have been below par, are virtually guaranteed starters for any game particular match, the ones that SAF would start in every match if he could. And they are the only ones. Scholes would be, and in fact was, but time has caught up with him I think. The next closest would be Giggs, but even now SAF is starting to use him sparingly and next year, I think that will continue. Understand, I am not bagging either of them, just saying that that Old Cunt called Time won’t be denied. Sad as it is.
What’s interesting about this is two things. First, that’s a much smaller “core” group than most other top clubs. Most clubs have a core of 9, 10 or even 11 players that their managers would always play, if they could. We don’t.
The other interesting thing is that with time catching up with Scholes and Giggs, that core no longer includes any midfielders. Yes, we have MF players who start regularly. And who are very good. But we no longer have anyone who is close to being a guaranteed starter, a permanent fixture if you like. Someone who, even if they’ve been out of sorts recently, SAF will still feel he should persist with them (as he did with Rooney this year).
And that’s what I think he will look for this summer. A core midfielder, someone who plays week-in, week-out, someone to build the team around while others come in and out around them. Yes, he might also go for some lesser players to bolster the squad depth, but with the squad we’ve already got, and with the youngsters we’ve got coming through, I don’t think that will be his main priority. His number one target will be a replacement for VDS, and his number two will that core midfield player. As for who, I don’t know. I can’t even say what type of midfielder he will go for. But I think it will be, and should be, someone of that quality and class. There, said my piece
Willie
Me grouchy? Na mate just hate idiots
I hear SAF has cloned Keano and the clone is 12 now soon to be seen at the academy.
Denton, See you have Adler. Funny how he has completely fallen off the radar. What do you know then?
Off to watch United on BBC, laters!
@King Eric
I am very good mate great weekend! I agree mate I am not bashing Gibson and he does add a piece to the jigsaw no doubt but you are bang on when he literally hid behind Cahill so he couldnt be passed the ball.
I agree with Willirednut he is lacking confidence and a good few games who knows but like I say he may be gone before we see it.
Again I would like to add, not sure how it come across on TV but Evans was class and he has gone through a spell like Gibbo
Anybody watching United on BBC2? I am about to watch it.
Time for cooking Easter dinner now, read you all latter!!!!!!!
MY DICK SAY’S BY FOR NOW!!!!
GO ROONEY !!!!!!!!!!!!! GLORY GLORY MAN UTD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StatesideAussie
Glad you are back, but why the fuck for mate? We hardly missed you….hahahaha
Zibbie
Do not get too kinky on me buddy
Saad @ 19:03: ” Arsenal won’t win anything. They care too much about playing beautiful football.”
I just hate this notion that TheArse play “beautiful football” that’s “easy on the eye”. It just isn’t true – what they do is play training ground routines instead of scoring goals.
Today, for example, they dominated possession and territory but it was Bolton who scored twice and who had the better chances to add to their total. The only real missed chance for TheArse was when Nasri kicked the ball straight at Jaaskilinen (sp ?) but, otherwise, they knocked it around and around and around but seemed unwilling/unable to penetrate – the goal today by van Persie was the exception rather than the rule, in terms of their play.
There is a lot of media blather about the fragility of TheArse’s defence – and rightly so – but I think that playing van Persie as the central striker is also a problem since he’s more of a finesse player than either a speed merchant or a bull-dog. van Persie would be terrific as a #10 or a left-inside forward but he is wasted as the #9. (And, yeah, I know he’s scored a lot of goals but….) My opinion is that if they had a “proper” center forward like, say, Andy Carroll or Kenwyn Jones then they’d do a much better job of turning their “beautiful football” into results. Hopefully, TheWhinger doesn’t agree !
For all those who have the channel United movie on BBC2 now
Where are you smartalex? FFS we miss you mate
byron 1970 @ 19:10: “Just a point on Michael Owen. I think we’d be mad not to offer him a one year contract.”
I’d agree and add that IF the new scenario is to play Chicharito at the point-of-attack then LittleMikey is a perfect back-up – and it seems that he’d accept that role. However, that determination is going to be dependent on what SAF decides to do with Dimmy – I can’t see him keeping both of them and freezing out Danny Welbeck and/or KikoTheKid.
@DentonDavey
Correct mate the whole notion of them playing beautiful football is a complete joke! They were saying the same thing before we played them in the champs league semi final and were taught a master class.
I’m not joining in on the Arse-bashing simply because it is so predictable that it isn’t fun anymore. I actually feel sorry for the Goons. Imagine supporting a team as spineless as theirs.
Quadruple my Arse.
Anyway, I think I’ll call it a day. I still have a boring Monday to get through, before the Champs League semi. I just have a lousy feeling Mickey Owen will win it for us. He might not even find a place on the bench for all I know, but it’s just one of those inklings that I can’t quite explain.
Anyway, nighty night everyone.
StateSideAussie @ 19:59: “His number one target will be a replacement for VDS, and his number two will that core midfield player.”
That kind of “core midfield player” (i.e., De Rossi, Schweini, or Sneijder) will cost at least thirty million, if not more. Do you see that happening ?
Did v. Persie spit at the end of the match? At Taylor? If so, why aren’t the media all over this?
Credit where its due, Alan Shearer sings the praises of Hernandez………….. Total respect
Dont mean to be negative…(trying to be realistic) but how long do you reds think it will it take, before Madrid and Barcelona start circling like vultures around our Mexican jewel!!?
Clint-IamYourPapii says:
We Need to sign these 11 players !!!
Rob Green
Alcaraz
Anton Ferdinand
Squilacci
Luke young
Joe Cole
Jermaine Jenas
Graham Alexander
Adel Taarabt
Rodellega
Charlton Cole
what a cunt….
Sachu….it is painful trying to decipher your posts stop fucking about abbreviating everything you prat….
it reminds me this __
Nani said in December that
United or Chelsea will win the league
to which Wenger replied “I personally
don’t know who will win the league
and I have managed 1600 games. If
Nani knows he must be 1600 times
more intelligent than I am.” and I guess we know who’s intelligent
FLETCH @ 20:01: “Denton, See you have Adler. Funny how he has completely fallen off the radar. What do you know then?”
You mis-read my 19:43 comment – I was quoting back what Dela had written @ 18:37. I do think that Adler is a bit of a dark horse candidate – he was unlucky to lose his place in the national team to Neuer because of injury. AND – he’s made a big deal out of being a huge UTD fan. I think that that woudl count for “something”. However, I get the sense that the deal for De Gea is already done-and-dusted.
Red Crow @ 20:26: “how long do you reds think it will it take, before Madrid and Barcelona start circling like vultures around our Mexican jewel!!?”
They’re probably on ChicharitoAlert already.
Evening all ….BigTee up and raring at all these fucking so-called Utd fans that know absolutely fuck all about EPL….. yet watch one Utd game and then come on here giving it fucking large…. with a piss poor grasp of English…..
notice old Cedars getting stuck into some of them ….
TonyBee
Always here mate, sticking it up to those ignorant bastards
The FA started screwing us a long time.
Denton. Ok cheers for that. Not sure about the De Gae bit myself. The player keeps denying a deal is done and saying he wants to stay in madrid. Not exactly the kind of chatter from someone over the moon to become a United legend. It is very clear that the top talent in Spain and Germany would rather stay “in country”. Adler has been a fan so he says and is a huge talent. I like his age an maturity a bit more as well. All I want is someone who is 100% committed to the club. I just will spit if we get another ronaldo type chatting up a move back home after 4 years of success.
Cedars no more kink ok!
Guys sorry this is off topic but this movie is having me watering up.
nemzthered 20:26 Ha ha ha ha ha .
I do remember that bit. Ha ha ha ha.
Nani = The Professor !
Evening
The problem with United BBC drama is simple
They are more concerned with the period than they are with the emotional soul of the story
Sir Matt played by Dougary Scott is a waste of time – he comes across as a junior Vito Corleone rather than a proud Scotsman who changed the face of English football and more importantly Manchester United.
The opening shot of the film is hapless – their is no emotion involved within the scene – truthfully the opening itself doesn’t make any sense
In my version of The Busby Babes – one which I am painstakingly writing – the film starts with a camera panning over OT – and Sir Matt and Jimmy Murphy discussing off screen what they are going to do to get Manchester United to where they belong – I can’t go into it because of confidential reasons – but right after that the next scene is of a young Duncan Edwards with his mother in church being told that she will always be with him – important two fold without going into too much discussion because his mother was the world to him and he lost a young sister.
I would love to carry on and explain things but I can’t.
Suffice to say that I am in no position to make my United whereas the United on screen today still fails to appropriately deal with the stories that made The Babes what they were. They were more than that – more than players sitting in a cinema screen – all their stories wove like pieces of ballet – they all had something that made them who they were – by not telling that side of the Busby Babes we learn therefore nothing of what made them – we learn nothing of how they got to Munich – we learn nothing of what Sir Matt and Jimmy Murphy did to get them to that point where we lost 8 of them in under the most devastating of circumstances.
The Busby Babes were all leaders – a group of players bought together through humble and honest circumstances that was to forever change the course of the club forever – only three players were bought by Sir Matt and Jimmy Murphy between the years 51 to 58 – of one which was Harry Cregg
That in itself tells you a story – a poignant reminder of what this club today stands for.
Without Youth we have no Courage and without Courage we have no success.
I don’t know if my time will ever come to tell our story – but for me this United os not the one.
Our United was and will forever be much more…
Yeah lads. I aint bashing gibson for the sake. I actually like the lad. But those at the game could see him not wanting the ball yesterday. He was fine up till midway through second half when as usual the restless fucking crowd starting getting on his back and he lost all confidence. As costas correctly says after a couple of long range efforts he wouldn’t shoot. Crisis in confidence and to be fair to him I aint surprised. Some of the bile in the stands from some cunts is quite disgusting.
Did I REALLY see people on here saying we should sign nasri? I completely agree. He is a proper united player. Fucking cunt.
Mg. Fantastic post mate. Dougray scott is a poor choice. There is no humilty in sir matt. Anyway only fifteen minutes in so csnt comment further suffice to say it annoyed me at first that some of the details were shit BUT as someone said on here the other day its just fantastic for the story to be put out on the beeb and raise peoples awareness as to why united are the greatest club in the world. No iffs. No buts. They are. Its good that people will realise what sets united apart. To be fair it does say “based“ on actual events. Great post though as I say.
Tonybee. Hey up tony tone tone. I think clint was joking with that wish list mate. I found it amusing.
Denton … do I see that happening? Yeah, why not? If the money is there, like the club keeps saying it is, and if the right player can be had, yeah, I think it will. But a replacement for VDS will be his number one objective.
Cedars, glad you didn’t miss me, I’d hate to cause you any anxiety lol
MG, top post about the film, keep going mate.
CH14 Come on United!
theyve got one thing right jimmy murphey was the beating RED heart of united
MANCHESTER UNITED!!!!!!
Really really dislike commenting about transfers before we win number 19. The moment is too crucial and demands focus from us fans to support the existing formation. That and a proper battle against Barcelona in CL (not the circus of two years ago) is what we should demand.
As far as the squad is concerned Fergie knows best. And I have a feeling season 2012-2013 Fergie hands over to Pep. Pep brings then Iniesta-Xavi with him.
The BBC2 United film.Well done and powerfull I thought it was great.
Dk. Seriously doubt that will happen pal.
The football league. Fucking united over since 1958.
Fuck Pep and his chicken tikka with brown sauce football. The film was powerful. The depiction of SMB as some John Gotti figure, was very strange though. The BBC done a similar drama on George Best, that wasn’t exactly true life either.
King Eric
Which bit the CL final or the Pep-Iniesta-Xavi arrival?
dk … Pep to OT, with Iniesta and Xavi? Are you kidding? Now, that would test my loyalty. As willie said, fuck pep and his chicken tikka with brown sauce football. Anyway, Xavi will be 32 going on 33 by then. Iniesta will turn 30 during that season. And our youth players will be coming through (if not before then). wtf!
King Eric
Thanks for that. I’m all for people being educated and it’s a good thing that people should know about the Babes
But you me and most of us know that even in today’s educated world people can still drag Munich through the gutter simply because so called fans cannot accept Manchester United for what they are.
That will forever continue – unfortunately their will never be any sanity or understanding for such stupidity to stop. That is the biggest shame.
StatesideAussie
Cheers mate – you know the score – you know where I am – someday…
A part of Manchester United died on that day in Munich but people like Jimmy Murphy never stopped
Do you know he was quietly pushed out of the club because the club owners at the time thought he wasn’t good enough any more?
United owes a great deal to Sir Matt and Jimmy Murphy – more than what mere mortals could describe in any sort of words on here.
It’s great now that our club is run like a family under Sir Alex – we as supporters owe everything to him – It will take someone of greater nerve than Sir Alex to sit in that chair – we hope he is out there somewhere.
@ King Eric. 22.01. Funnily enough I sent the exact same txt to some of my United pals during the film.
Thought the United film was okay, liked the fact how they got the blank team sheet in there and Duncan Edwards famous words of Get Stuck In. I think we all as United fans would have liked to have seen more but unfortunately this was supposed to gather a wider audience. Thought the line from Edwards to Charlton
“Don’t tell them you’re a footballer.”
How times have changed! The guy who played Harry Gregg made me laugh in what was an emotional, sombre film. However I just get this nasty feeling we as fans will get more grief from the opposition for this. I hope all the United squad watched that because although not an exact replica of the events it still was emotional. That should give them a boost to go do the double.
BELIEVE
@FletchTheMan
In fairness to De Gea I think he just wants to concentrate on finishing the season with Athletico. Like imagine if he said he’s been offered a deal at United and he was strongly considering it… and a week later he made a mistake… people will be saying “ohh he’s not committed he’s head has been turned” e.t.c
Also could be a case of Mark Hughes when he joined Barcelona. He agreed to sign for them around January, but couldn’t say anything about it. So in the next few months he had to lie to people. I thinks its the same with De Gea.
I think De Gea would be delighted to join the club, but he realizes how big of a decision he is making and whether or not if he’s ready for the move and ready to leave his home.
Also enjoyed watching the drama United on BBC….
Some bits of it had me holding back some tears! It may have not been completely accurate….didn’t like that Busby sounding more like The Don rather then a scottish man.
I thought the film was fantastic, emotional and you know me anything to do with united i will watch it.
Ryan – Exactly mate. You don’t upset the Madrid fans, that’s a no no. It’s basically up to him, but United won’t wait around. Sir Alex was talking about Neuer in one of the Sunday papers. He said he’s a brilliant goalkeeper, but Bayern looked to have signed him for next season. If De Gea doesn’t want to leave Spain, I’m sure the club will have alternatives in mind.
Ya he’ll have to make his mind up quick.
Ya it looks like Neuer will join Bayern…but you never know after he plays at OT in a couple of week he might just think “you know what, I fancy this”
Ya I reckon if United don’t sign De Gea or Neuer they will go after your man Steklenberg!
What’s with all this stekelenberg talk? what because he is dutch, that suddenly qualifies him to be united’s next goal keeper and replace the legendary edwin van der sar?
Samuel
Well to be fair he’s had a good WC..
and in the CL he’s had some brilliant saves… one in particular against Ac Milan I think.
And Erick Steele confirmed in a interview they were looking at him!
It’s that time of the year when all Arsenal and Chelsea supporters will “realize” that they “also follow Barca/Real”
Gaurav … yeah, what a laugh they are.
hmmm the musing of a winning bunch. yep its looking really exciting now and all i’m thinking right now is lifting the trophy against of one of the London boys. At this point Fuck transfers , the mini roller coaster we’ve been on before the CL game against chelea has put a number of players in good form.
The Rooney/Hernandez thing is just gonna get more devastating, especially if Carrick keeps up his good form. I wish Giggs was 26 , even 30 , that would be perfect, him and Micheal look a real treat, it almost defies what we think a midfield pairing should be but there you go. Thought it was interesting SAF played Fabio in RB ahead of Evra, and i think its genius, if one twin isn’t playing,no reason not to play the other? Right? . With O’shea or evra covering the opposite flank we just may have found a new dynamic. Roll on 19th baby. Here come United
Fuck i’m gonna miss VDS
I’m gonna wait till the season finishes before crying like a baby for VDS leaving.
I see SAF has taken almost the entire squad to Germany. Only Hargo and Fletcher (still ill) have stayed home. Everyone else has gone and is available, including Scholes and The Berb (though I don’t expect The Berb to get a look in at this stage).
Why does know one think we should buy Odewinge from WB…I think the lad has gone through a lot (from Russia) and is playing very very well…Can dribble, has a good shot and great passing sense…
He may be a good buy like Valencia…
no one*
considering how UTD usually do scoring on the 83rd minute was early for us!! everton defended well but you have to do it for 90mins+ and they didn’t manaage it. we pinned them in their half for most of the 2nd half so we deserved the goal.
Chicarito deserved the goal, it’s no coincidence he has got 19 goals this year (the same as legend Ole in his 1st year) as he is constantly moving the defenders and he must be a nightmare to mark, so no wonder during the course of a game he gets at least 1 clear chance and with his high percentage concersion rate it usually results in a goal and those reasons are why he has put berbatov on the bench.
As for Gibson, he hasn’t improved in the last few seasons and if you can’t improve when surrounded by scholes, giggs, rooney etc then he has to go imo. Sell him and give Cleverly his chance and place next season as i’m sure he’ll do a better job of it.
One final note, do we think Ravel Morrison will be ready for the first team next season??
Happy birthday Scott.
Has anyone seen Garth Crooks team of the week, he has Chico playing behind a front two, rolles eyes!!!!
Why would SAF pay 25-40 mill for Sneijder, when he could have gotten him for “free” a year ago. Don’t hold your breath, either Sneijder wanted Milan weather or SAF found something he didn’t like. Same goes for D. Costa.
I think we have most of the players needed to sustain a long run. Btw. It’s been very quiet around Ribery lately. Injured?
Ribery > underage french hooker problems methinks…….
Aig. Hello mate. How’s things? How on earth did you know its scotss birthday? Get posting again.
Morning TonyBee
Hows things mate?
MOrning lads. Happy Birthday to Scott!!!
@KIng Eric
Hi mate. Facebook. They fill you in when a friend of yours is celebrating their birthday.
Morning Costas
Never got round to my Greece visit, sadly it was cancelled.
Anyway I love this time of the season where the games come thick and fast. I hope we get a good result tomorrow although I know they have a terrific support at their place and it could be intimidating but regardless I am sure we will roll them over at OT. We have already lost 2 semis to German teams, time to put that right.
Cheers costas. Morning all.
Off topic but just seen neil lennon cupping his ears after game yesterday. The man cannot help himself can he. Not saying for one minute he deserves getting parcel bombs sent but I don’t like him. Is it just me who thinks he is a bit of a knob? Aggressive little bastard.
Happy birthday scott.
Why the fuck are sky talking up the rentboys and making out we are mugs? Saying how arsenal can let the chavs in next week by beating united. As fucking if. Those soft cunts don’t know how to win a game from end of march on. They most certainly aint gonna beat united.
King Eric
How are you buddy? Sky, Daily Fail, Townsend and co just hate the fact that we are about to be champions. they have done their worse along with the corrupt FA to try and derail our season but they have failed miserably. Pictures of Vidic and the rest lifting number 19 will make them hateful cunts burn with envy…. One thing I would seriously love to see is Rooney looking into a camera and saying his famous quote of ‘What? Fucking What? We are the champions you hateful bastards’ Not gonna happen I know but would be great !!
hey guys, give this a read, an article on our German jinx:, Dortmund, Munich, Leverkusen, Bayern again… will Man United finally overcome the German hoodoo?
http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/man-united%E2%80%99s-corner-german-jinx-in-europe/
Happy Birthday Scott mate, I tweeted yu my feelings about 6 this morning
but happy birthday fella
King Eric
Hi mate. i am good, feeling better as no 19 is coming home. How are you??
bit busy researching a few things etc for fuure studies, not much time but do try to read the articles and your comments
. Came to know about Scott’s birthday through facebook. are you on FB or twitter??
@Cedars
Oh, sorry to hear that mate. Maybe you’ll get to visit at some point in the future. We will still be here.
@AIG
Hi mate. Don’t mention twitter in here.
@indiandevil It’s an interesting read but German or not I think this is a far weaker German side than any of the ones that’s knocked us out previously. Schalke lost at home on Saturday against 12th in the table Kaiserslautern. That leaves them 10th in the league 29 points behind the leaders. I know you can’t underestimate any team in a champions league semi final but we will be huge favourites to reach the final. They’ll be up for it big time tomorrow with the crowd behind them so I think if we can get to half time and not be losing I think we’ll come back home with a score draw at worst.
Speakin of twitter, I was just reading some tweets from reporters at the Manchester airpot. No one has seen Rio, O’Shea and Berba in the travelling squad until now.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1380115/Manchester-United-Champions-League-semi-finals-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html
worth a read!!
Correction. O’Shea and Rio just arrived. No sign of Berbatov. Fletcher is also not travelling.
Costas
Those mentioned must be ‘tweeting’ themselves to Germany! lol
Twitter and Facebook not for this old timer
@Vishal
Cheers mate. The Leverkusen one still hurts. One of my biggest disappointments as a United fan. I thought we were destined to play the final in Fergie’s hometown.
Costas
Already been a couple of times, Santorini was magical…. I was still married then! I love your country, your people and your food as well of course!
@Cedars
Trust me mate. I am an old timer too. I didn’t get a FB profile until 3 months ago, lol. I finally caved in to my friends’ wishes.
@costas is berba nt travelling ru sure
back from walking me dogs…..hi Cedars yeah, I’m not too bad fella….better after Besating the Toffee’s on Sat
sachu …..for fucks sake write it properly less off the childish abbreviations….
imagine me going on FB,….. fuck me.. took me 6 months to master doing fucking smileies…..
and spelling too….hahahah
smilieies and besatting….jesus what s fucking dickhead….
@Cedars
I’ve heard Santorini is really beautiful. I haven’t had the chance to go there. Thanks but I think our food is the only worthy thing of your love, lol.
@sachu
That’s what the reports are saying right now. Unless he checked in and no one noticed him.
No Berba in the travelling squad. Confirmed on the United site.
The squad – Edwin van der Sar, Tomasz Kuszczak; Patrice Evra, Wes Brown, Chris Smalling, Rio Ferdinand, John O’Shea, Jonny Evans, Nemanja Vidic, Fabio, Rafael; Anderson, Ryan Giggs, Ji-sung Park, Michael Carrick, Nani, Paul Scholes, Antonio Valencia, Gabriel Obertan, Darron Gibson; Michael Owen, Wayne Rooney, Javier Hernandez.
No Berbatov, Darren Fletcher, Owen Hargreaves or Bebe.
Costas
Everything about your country is lovable mate!
TonyBee
Do not stretch yourself mate with modern day technology…….. Like me you are a dumb fuck, keep it at that….hahahaha
To be honest, I don’t know whether Berb is going to be a loss or not. It’s a different game to the Everton one and we will need Rooney and Chicha’s pace a lot more.
I hope Fletcher is fit for Arsenal though. Almost every win against them in recent seasons has come while we’ve played 4-5-1 against them.
wtf happened to berba
fancy owen to score he has done well in germany before with a couple of hatricks and off topic arsenal fans are finally putting some pressure on wenger
Speaking of Berba, he has been put aside to be sold in the summer in order to raise funds to buy Nasri…………..
Fucking idiots
Nasri the snood wearing nonce……
Hello guys! I am very much late to the party. But Happy Birthday Scott!
Another thing is that there are not enough posts on Evans’ great performance yesterday. When they have bad games, there are millions of posts slating them but when they have solid performances, not enough posts celebrating them.
Anyways, I have a feeling United will go through. It is going to be helluva lot difficult but people are missing the most important difference between the Dortmund/Leverkusen United teams and the present one. During those days, Sir Alex did not wish to go 4-5-1 in away games. It was usually 4-4-2 and we were playing more attacking football and our defence in the 2002 season was not the greatest.
These days SAF knows that defence is what is going to win you games in Europe. We have the best defensive record this season with only 3 goals conceded overall and Sir Alex always goes 4-5-1 against all opposition. That is why we have the best away record in Europe over the past few seasons and why we’ve been doing so well over the last 3 years.
99% of the people (including some skeptical and negative United fans) are conveniently ignoring the change in Sir Alex’s mentality and saying we are going to find it difficult because Germans are bogey teams.
I am not saying it is going to be easy but because of all the factors I’ve mentioned above, I think United have a greater chance of going through this time than before.
@cedarsdevil calm down mate sorry abt the nasri thing i started it berbatov is just injured and he will be there next season lets focus on schalke match
Wenger: ‘It’s been very unsatisfactory, because that’s the easiest run-in we have had for a very long time’. Fucking arrogant disrespectful cunt.
sachu says:
fancy owen to score he has done well in germany before with a couple of hatricks and off topic arsenal fans are finally putting some pressure on Wenger
thank you …..can now understand you….
Wenger has been under pressure from the Board of the Arse… if he don’t get fucked off by the Arse expect him to buy big in the summer
Kings…what do you expect from a sanctimonious prick like Wenger…
we all know he is a grade A cunt
According to United reporters, Berba’s absence is due to a groin injury.
@tony bee i dnt think he will buy big and with the emergence of shitty and spurs the goonercunts may just go out of top 4
yeah fuck off CEDARS… just imagine Little Sammi signing for us…………
and then hell freezing over
and Willie porking Megan Fox
sachu
I am very calm, do not take things personally mate……… Come on though, Nasri?? You did after all call for his signing which is a joke and for that you have to deal with the consequences. Furthermore please type your posts properly and with out silly abbreviations…………. Again nothing personal mate..
Kings
Nothing new there from Wengy buddy………… His look after the match yesterday was priceless.. Gooners been dead and burried for over 5 years now and every one sees it except him
Sachu….he will have to spend big to attract players to the arse….his job will be on the line if he wins fuck all next year hence…… he will have no choice but to attempt to bolster his squad
LOL @ TonyBee
Willie banging Megan Fox? Think we might sign Gerrard before that happens……… Keep giving the poor bloke ice packs
It all comes down to defensive controll. Thank god SAF rested most defenders and midfielders – will give United a great chance to get a good result tomorrow. at least not conceed a goal.
Cedars me’n'you should be moderators for this site….picking on illiterates and numpties….. hahahahahahah ….probably ban ourselves too ….hahahahahah
@cedarsdevil i am sorry again nasri is a cunt no doubt but i think sir alex will buy a couple of attacking midfielders and nasri could be one who knows
sachu… Nasri > Utd….NO FUCKING CHANCE
@ yes i know but he has said he is not going to change his fucking philosophy so expect him to buy atleast three 10 year olds and i do hope they get relegated next year
last post was to tony bee
oh fuck it…….. MrsBee calling to go shopping…..bollocky bollocking bollocks……Amex here we come….
see all you fuckers later
TonyBee
I will ban me for sure hahahaha I am after all a fucking crack head hahahaha and like you a dumb fuck
sachu
No need to apologize but for fucks sake stop linking us with a snood wearing ugly face like Nasri… We will NEVER sign him
@ tony bee manchester united are a milliontimes better better than nasri or anybody
ooooohhhh Sachu getting touchy are you…just cos you are fucking wrong…….
this post to Sachu…..
Time to rest all this talk about Nasri. NEVER gonna happen. As simple as that.
With Spurs (almost) sure to miss out of CL spot, SAF to love to raid their troops. His opinion of Modrich is no secret and I’m sure he’ll have a word about him with Harry.
Would be interesting to observe City in this summer (as has been the case for past couple of years). They say, Carlos will surely leave them now. And surely they can’t run a Massive club with Dzeko and Balotelli as their line leaders. They are city and even they would have enough brains. But then, you never know.
give Sachu some grief from me will you Cedars….
hope he is still here when I get back from spending…….
@cedars devil ok i wont mention him again
* SAF would love
@adi is there any chance of us getting modric
TonyBee
You dog you, now we know who wears the pants in your household you pussy!!!
sachu
If you have an opinion stick to it mate, again no need to apologize to me or anybody else
sachu – nasri gd player but not what united need, I think ashley young is more likely to be signed because of his contract running out. adding the fact the greater need to sign a GK and a CM.
The 3 signings I think we will sign is
de gea
young or sancez
de rossi or schneider
@sachu
that’s very unclear, isn’t it? the player says he is happy, and even grateful to Spurs. The ONLY thing that can help us is the assured CL spot. Otherwise, it doesn’t appear that Modrich has that Berba-syndrome (United-above-spurs).
May be Van der Vaart. Who knows. It seems impossible that Spurs would retain their talent with no CL games next year.
TonyBee/CedarsDevil – Morning friends. Yeah he’s a cunt who thinks he can talk like that about other clubs and get away with it. If Fergie said anything like that he would branded as arrogant. ‘Gooners been dead and burried for over 5 years now and every one sees it except him’. Slightly disagree Cedars mate, it’s everyone except both him and Wenger loving cunt Patrick Barclay. Barclay actually defended Wengers comments about not winning a trophy not being the be all and end all and said that if he Arsenal finished second, then that would be considered a successful season – much to the amusement of the others on the program that day. Anyway guy’s, it’s my birthday today and with United winning and Arsenal losing – the only blot being Chelsea’s win – I can have a good day full in the knowledge that even a draw and a win from our next two league games will give us title number 19. Happy days.
Kings
Happy birthday buddy….. Have a blast mate…
Thinking of a birthday present…… How about a photo of me blasting Townsend’s nose off his fucking face?
@fergie is boss agree wiyh u but young surely is not good enough @adi there are rumours of berbatov going back there i hope they are wrong
FITB
Young? You cannot be serious mate………….Another snood wearing below average player, not for United
@kings happy birthday mate as a late birthday present for u we will the 19th and the 4th
@ cedars devil good we agree about young not being good enough and do u hate all snood wearing bastards
CedarsDevil – young is exactly the same type of player has valencia, direct and his assist records is not bad either about 12 to 13, he already has 8 goals this season and he could cost the club 10 to 12 million, that is someone united canot miss out on. Did anyone think valencia was gd enough for united before they signed him no, add the fact young can play on the right and left of our wide positions. He has scored 35 goals in 4 years which is not bad. A combo of valencia or nani on the right and young on the left, will give united greater depth on the wide positions
sanchez is better than young he will cost more but pls sign him and i think cleverley will turn out to be better than young
another thing, how many said micheal carrick was not gd enough for united and he has not done to badly lets be real with the prices of players if united signed de gea de rossi and young with the prices of players, those 3 are the best you are going to get in this summer window. a midfield 4 of de rossi carrick valencia young is a really gd midfield to chose from, it gives united depth in midfield, and we can rotate all our midfielders of, fletcher carrick de rossi anderson welbeck cleverlystaying on nani young park giggs and valencia, who knows maybe scholes will stay on. A combo of experience and youth we will be a much better side next season
sachu – sancez has never done it in the premiership, young has.check youngs assist records its insane, it is has gd has berbatovs and nani’s. But young I feel is allot more direct than nani. which sometimes we need, and 2 direct wingers in young and valencia could rip prem sides to pieces with their direct speed. That we have not seen since the kanchelskis and giggs years.
cleverly is another player who plays central, he is not comfy in the wide positions, he will go out there but he will always drify inwards making our play to narrow
FITB
I disagree with capital letters mate………….. Young NOT for United. Dippers maybe or stay at Villa
CedarsDevil – I think is gd enough for united, his goals and assist records for villa says it all. Many said berbs carrick owen and hernandez when they all arrived were not gd enough, we need big name signings, young is the type of player united will be going for. Like I said with whats out there, young’s ability to play right left and behind the striker, and his contract expriring he is the best we can get for value for money, and fergie has always been a big fan of the guy.
FITB
The only reason Young gets such claim is because he is English. Sanchez might cost a lot more, but definitely worth it. Also the likes of Evra, Vida and Ronaldo had never played in the PL before we got them. Didn’t stop them from setting the standards. Class players can play in any league.
@fergie is boss i think de rossi and sanchez are also value for money
FITB
Have to agree to disagree buddy………… Horrible choice for us and not what we need….
My focus is on number 19, after that I will gladly discuss transfers and possible signings
CedarsDevil/sachu – Thanks my friends. Yes I would welcome those gifts with open arms.
@ arjic i fully agree great post if we do sign three players hope its degea sanchez and de rossi otherwise dnt sign anyone else and pls bring cleverley back
just saw the BBC piece on United. Got a quite teary eyed. Jimmy Murphy was immense. Come on United
@kings u will get those gifts no doubt we will beat chelshit to win the league and then beat ronny and real to their death i can already see it and feel it
The Arse are already broken, we just need to put them out of their misery. The Rentboys are fucked without the ref on their side and Blackburn/Blackpool aren’t much of a threat.
Champs League will be trickier but Real & Barca have been wearing each other out and I fancy us to beat either of them. It’ll probably be us vs Real in the final, there’s something about Fergie vs Mourinho, Ronaldo against his old club etc that just clicks into place. Besides, if we fuck them up in a Champions League final we can stop all this shit about us being their ‘feeder club’.
arijc – vidic 7 million evra 5 million ronaldo 12 million. sanchez will cost in the region of 35 million or more. He is not has proven has schneider. I do watch other teams, so I have watched players like young, and he is just like valenica direct, great at beating players and is one of the best crossers of the ball.
CedarsDevil – united still need a wide player. giggs no longer plays out wide not, he is more of an inside player, park is the same he never really plays on our wide positions. So any injury to valencia and nani and we are going to lack speed and guile in our midfield, so it is crucial we do strengthen the wide positions
Arsenal out of it now. The commentator described it best
“Arsenal, going, going, gone…”
Wenger didnt help himself in my opinion. He was squatting by the touch line looking ever so deaperated & frustrated, cover his face & messing his hair. What would his players think seeing their boss in a state of mental meltdown? You wouldn’t see Sir Alex doing those kind of actions, even when under pressure
Look at you go. Transfer talk like it’s bloody August. All your conjectures won’t change the fact that SAF decides who we bring in if we need anyone (thank God for that!). It’s fucking pointless and some of you would certainly be better of doing something productive instead of talking transfer gossip when the season isn’t even over yet. Leave the business to the professionals and concentrate on supporting the team, that’s right, the lads who are CURRENTLY wearing the shirt.
http://thebusbyway.com/2011/04/25/gif-wenger-plays-peekaboo/
Cedars. Hello mate.
Aig. Yeah good thanks mate. Get yourself back. I won’t be as harsh on your negativity! Only messing mate.
Kings. Happy birthday fella. Have a good one. Yeah heard that arrogant french cunts comments about it been the easiest run in. Unbelievablle. They also had an easier run in last year. I loved seeing those cunts like nasri and fabregas trudging off the reebok all dejected. Fuck off.
Gibson has joined twitter. I wonder if he will get more hateful tweets from United fans than Piers Morgan does…
@Kings
Happy Birthday pal. All the best.
gotta say alot of bollocks been talked on here,just curious all of you who are saying utd should sign all these guys from different leagues how many times have you seen them play? everyone is a fucking expert makes me laugh,not even interesting just repeating the same shit over and over again.lets take care of business this year first,ffs someone has next years squad already what is wrong with some of you people.
Kings, Scott- Happy birthday to the both of you!
Costa- The first thing I thought of when I knew he’d joined Twitter was the amount of abuse he was gonna get. Poor fellow. Hope he can deal with the stick.
back again….
Kings…Happy Birthday mate….. sent you a tenner in the post in a card but I bet them cunts at the Post Office helped themselves………..
Cedars…. yeah she wears the trousers …. and I wear the pantyhose….. whhoooo hhooooo…. no been promising to take her for ages …… bless….. and I want some food tonight…..
Costas – I would so love fergie to get twitter
quick joke….
Bloke come out of a pub to see a load of people sprinting down the street…
Says to one, ‘ What’s happening?’……
Geezer shouts back at him, ‘A lion has just escaped from the zoo’……
Our bloke says, ‘ Which way did it go’.
Geezer shouts back at him ‘ You don’t think we’re fucking chasing it do you’.
schalke are going to get a good pasting
King Eric – Thanks mate. Yeah two years running the FA has sorted them out an ‘easier set of fixtures’ for the tail end of the season – for the want of a few better words – seeing to it that they play all the big games away first then play them at home later on in the season, but still that didn’t work. All the ABU cunts speak of him as a pleasent man who carries with him a great sense of dignity, yet he comes out with comments like that. I watched an ESPN program a couple of years back about the best British Managers of all time (You have probably seen it mate) and that cunt was 1st ahead of Fergie, Bob Paisley and Brian Clough! What the fuck that decision is based I do not know. It was funny watching that cunt bounce the ball in anger and then watching Barca bound Fabregas and snood wearing mincing little goofy cunt Nasri trudging off the pitch with a look of total dejection at full-time. Also funny was seeing that odd-bodied little cunt sitting on the bench looking totally pissed off, especially as he’s the one who sees fit to question our bottle for the run-in – the fucking audacity of it. Fucking chokers the lot of them.
Costas – Thanks mate.
@Balaji Sivaraman – That’s an excellent shout for Johnny Evans. He was brilliant yesterday and was brilliant against Bolton until he got sent off. This guy is going to be a top class centre half. If there’s one position in the pitch that improves greatly with age it’s in defence, I include goal keepers in that. I can remember a time when I thought that Gary Neville was prone to too many mistakes but he turned out to be the best right back the Premiership has seen. Evans will still have a few more off days but he’s almost as brave as Vidic and is as honest as the day is long. Once this guy starts to improve his decision making, which will come with age, he’s going to be a truely outstanding centre half. It’s inevitable too that Smalling will have a bad run of form someday but he’ll come though it too and we’ll be looking at a back four of Rafael (20) Smalling (21) Evans (23) and Fabio (20) for years to come. How exciting a prospect is that? Sir Alex you are a genius!!!!!
theboogeyman – Thank you my friend.
TonyBee – Thank you mate. Yeah sticky fingers everywhere mate. Still it’s the thought that counts.
Kings. Quality mate. Ha. Yeah saw that programme about managers. Piss take. Straight piss take. Every abu says they have this “philosophy“ and play the great game. Do me a fucking favour. What philosophy? Starting the season well and then choking when it really matters. Yeah forgot to say how is that lanky streak of piss above fergie paisley shankley cloughy etc? Beggars belief mate. Have a good day.
Happy birthday Scott and Kings. Just watched the United film again, very hard watch for any United supporter. Busby Babes RIP
At the end of the season Darron Gibson will have more league winners medals than Gerrard. Gibson 1 Gerrard 0 – there’s a t-shirt in there somewhere.
King Eric – An absolute piss take mate. That Patrick Barclay is the biggest culprit talking him up like he’s a fucking genius and shows the great man Fergie complete and utter contempt in the same breath – fuck off you egghead bastard. We should suggest the FA give them cunts a Christmas Champions Trophy, just so they feel that they have achieved something in the season. I love it when the gooner cunts come on here giving it large about how they will sweep up all before them and the kids are starting to show that they finally have what it takes to have the mettle to win the biggest prizes. They will never learn. Aside from Fergie, to be voted ahead of another one of the greatest managers in the game in Bob Paisley is a fucking liberty, and the rest of the great managers for that matter. Thanks mate, will do. Roll on tomorrow.
willierednut – Thanks mate. .
willierednut – Yeah it’s hard to take in after watching that. I know it has come under some criticism, but the main element, the tragedy still leaves you feeling totally upset by it all. The fact that these guys were destined for great things makes it even more hard to take, even to this day. I have said this many times to a lot of my friends, and that is, had this tragedy not happened, then in my opinion, Duncan Edwards would have lifted the World Cup in 1966 as captain and not Bobby Moore. That is not a dig at Bobby Moore because he was one of the greats, but even he acknowledged how good Big Duncan was, even once admitting to go out of his way to go and watch him when United were playing in London. Also, just imagine how many of our babes would have been involved in the 1966 world cup squad, baring in mind how young they were in 1958. Also, how much more United would have achieved with these guys makes you wonder. Busy Babes, gone but never forgotten. RIP.
Scott, Kings
Happy Birthday mates
Scott, Thanks you for coming up with such wonderful articles
KIngs: Thank you for coming up with such passionate responses and comments…love reading them
@I AM NOT A MAN
As most regulars here will know I’m not a Gibson fan but I actually thought he did ok. I don’t know if it was Anderson’s energy or that Everton’s midfield were fairly anonymous for most of the game but usually he is caught out positioning consistently but that was less noticeable in this game.
What is worrying about him however is that while his weaknesses haven’t really improved over the season his strength seems to be getting worse by the game. His shot is up there with the best long range shots in the world (not many players an hit a ball as hard, clean and accurately) but he is hitting the target less per game and I don’t think he hit the target once despite a number of attempts.
I think he has to leave in the summer, he can have a decent career but I don’t see how it can be at United. And a loan has to be out of the question as he is 24
@The Major
I don’t think Anderson is a Tevez situation where he can’t speak any English. I seem to recall seeing interview snippets where he has said things in English.I also seem to remember reading press interviews and articles where it mentions his improving English. I suspect he is just one of these people who aren’t naturals with language and hence shys away from doing English interviews when he can.
Not everyone is a Ronaldo who is a natural with languages and has the confidence to not only do interviews in theses secondary languages but also showing off by using words most of us native speakers wouldn’t even think of and even use them correctly.
Certainly I don’t see SAF allowing Anderson to do what Tevez is reported to have done since leaving united and that’s stopping lessons and stopping trying to learn English
@mes
I AM NOT A MAN makes a god point that I have been making for a while now. Spend 15 minutes watching Gibson and his issues usually start to show up quickly. I have said that watching him is often like watching players doing that training drill where you have a square with a player in the middle and then then others players around the edges and these players have to pass the ball around with the player in the centre trying to intercept. He is just out of position all too often in a game and it’s played around him and leaves him out of the game.
He doesn’t have the skills or the grit to be a top class player but if he sorted his positioning out then he could be a top player in a mid or lower table perm side or a decent backup for us BUT you have to think he has had more than enough first team games at various levels including the prem and is at an age where he without doubt should have this positioning issue under better control.
@I AM NOT A MAN
The comment on Bebe is a bit harsh. It’s Bebe’s first season at United and his background means he is raw as can be. He was after all signed from a Portuguese club that’s best described as mid table but he hadn’t even made his competitive debut. Before this he had 26 appearances in a single season in division 2 of the Portuguese league and he had no real structured youth football and was living on the streets. Add to the fact he has moved country which can always see a player take time to come to terms with, look at Nani and Anderson for example.
On the whole his first team appearances have shown he has natural skill and he has performed better in many first team games than you could have really expected. He is raw but deserves a little more time before such judgement is made on him. If it gets to a Gibson situation if 50 united first team games and 25 games at another English side and he hasn’t come on then that level of criticism will be deserved but at this time it’s harsh. Obertan deserves more criticism IMHO than Bebe as he should be further along (although I still think he also deserves maybe another season as he as looked good in the reserves)
@United4eva
Judging Rodwell on one game is harsh, especially as he is coming back from injury. It would be li judging Anderson on the first 45mins vs Newcastle. There is a lot to like about Rodwell and the fact he can play in midfield or defence is a plus. He wouldn’t be my first choice of a young DM (I would prefer defour) but he wouldnt be a bad signing and I think he would be the kind of player who training with payers of Uniteds quality everyday would bring him on significantly (look at Smalling, looked a risk as at Fulham he was raw but being at United has really seen him step up)
RE: Sneijder
He is a class player but I do have my doubts about him in the English leagues. The leagues he has excelled in are ones where he gets time to play his game the way he wants to. Given the chance to sign him for under 30mill I would risk I but I see too much that reminds me of Veron in him and his style didn’t really work for in the English league.
@vILHELM28
How could SAF have got him free a year ago? I will assume you meant 2 years ago when he was at Madrid but even then he wasn’t available on a free. At the start of the transfer window Real were asking for in excess of £20mill for him and turned an offer of £16mill down from Inter.
The price didn’t drop till a few weeks before the window closed when they went back to Inter offering a deal at £13mill as they were desperate that things changed. It’s the same situation with vdv and spurs (so perhaps we should put a 60mill bid in for Ronnie and then see it rejected and then wait for them to offer him to us for 20mill on deadline day
)
On Costa United were serious about him so much so that they apparently had a press conference booked to unveil Valencia, Costa and Benzema. Germio started playing silly buggers and demanded £14mill upfront for him where as we wanted to pay 7 upfront and 7 in addons. They then refused a request for a trial so he could be evaluated first and to see if a compromise could b found.
Not that I see him being signed now. He has done well but not well enough IMHO to persuade SAF to go after him again.
Adi @ 9:35: “With Spurs (almost) sure to miss out of CL spot, SAF to love to raid their troops. His opinion of Modrich is no secret”
Actually, I think that young Sandro would be a better pick-up from the Spurs’ wreckage.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SCOTT – many happy returns and a HUGE thank you for hosting us on your forum/blog.
Sandro who can’t get in the Spurs team? Hell no!
Great wins by firstly Utd, then Bolton – hag to laugh at the Arsewipes.
Glad Johny Evans had a good game, good young up still learning his trade. His confidence is slowly coming back. No Utd player deserves to be barracked, especially the young ones.
Gibbo had an all right game, nothing special but serviceable. He was playing the holding role to allow Anderson the freedom to go forward. Not his best position but filled in for Carrick who also gets stick for playing that role to perfection (take out the odd misplaced pass or two). Carrick is way under-rated by Utd fans but is an intrigual part of rhe team.
Also glad Ando had a good game. He will be a good player for many years to come.
Couldnt help feeling we needed Berbs to hold up the ball occaisionly and thread some balls thru those tight spaces. Also thought we were never going to score from a cross with their big defenders – then along comes Chicapea. I swear I jumped as high as he did celebrating when the ball went in the back of the net.
Lets get a result in Germany then go to wipe the Arse.
Rodwell? Modric? Van der Vart? Nope they can keep them.
Red Devil – Thanks mate. Always a pleasure mate.
WillieRedNut @ 14:09: “Sandro who can’t get in the Spurs team? Hell no!”
The kid – he’s 20/21 ? – has a huge up-side. He was terrific in their Euro/CL matches. Compared to Rodwell or Henderson, he’s worth a flutter in my opinion. That said, it’s not like his transfer would compensate for losing out on De Rossi !
I was very impressed with Gary Cahill again yesterday; he was everything a top-class central defender needs to be – tall, strong, surprisingly-fast, and brave. Daniel Sturridge looked pretty good, too – confident on the ball, imaginative, and incisive. They were the two best players on display in yesterday’s match at TheReebok.
For all the possession that TheArse had – they didn’t have player with the qualities that Cahill and Sturridge displayed. So they lost. That’s why all this media-blather about TheArse playing “beautiful football” or being “easy on the eye” is just hog-wash.
Are United really in for De Rossi? I’m not sure and I don’t think he’ll leave Roma anyway. Sandro was flavour of the month. Now, he’s sitting on Spurs bench. A no for me, on both accounts.
@Wakey
I should have chosen my words wisely, when saying free (I guess cheap is better). I can’t see SAF paying the prices that are flying around for players like Sneijder and Costa at this time. I could be wrong – but just can’t see it.
SAF’s scouting department is so good these days, he’ll surprise us yet again this summer. But, don’t expect a bonanza – just won’t happen.
Hiya Willie
I don’t think that De Rossi will leave ASRoma – they’ll have a new coach (probably Ancelotti) and new owners so maybe some of the internal turmoil will get resolved. Anyhow, like I’ve written before, he’s the guy I’ve seen who looks most like the identikit profile of what UTD want in a “core midfielder” (to use StateSideAussie’s term).
About Sandro – his best performances have been terrific but he’s defensive midfielder and the giys that ‘arry is playing ahead of him (Jenas, Modric, Huddlestone, Kranjcar and Van der Vaart) are all attacking players. Even Palacios isn’t playing much for Spurs nowadays as ‘arry is trying to accentuate their attacking strengths and hope that he can get by without much defensive balance in midfield. It’s not an un-sensible strategy since they have an “adventurous” keeper and – apart from Michael Dawson – their defenders don’t actually defend very well. D’ya think that this might be attributable to the drinking water in North London ?
Oh come off it. Sandro? After about TWO good games. We do not need a defensive midfielder when carrick is one of the best around at sitting infront of back four. Seriously. Sandro.
denton davey – The drinking water is delusion mate. It spreads like wildfire.