“There is a massive difference in money but we have better fans than United.”
I don’t know whether I’d describe the difference as ‘massive’, but yes, Rafael Benitez has spent more money than Sir Alex Ferguson.
Money
Liverpool
2004/2005
In:
Djibril Cisse – £14m
Xabi Alonso – £10.5m
Fernando Morientes – £6.3m
Luis Garcia – £6m
Josemi – £2m
Scott Carson – £750k
Total: £39.55m
Out:
Danny Murphy – £2.5m
El Hadji Diouf – £4m
Michael Owen – £8m
Total: £14.5m
2005/2006
In:
Peter Crouch – £7m
Craig Bellamy – £6m
Jose Reina – £6m
Daniel Agger – £5.8m
Mohammed Sissoko – £5.6m
Mark Gonzalez – £4.5m
Total: £34.9m
Out:
Milan Baros – £6.5m
Fernando Morientes – £3m
Total: £9.5m
2006/2007
In:
Dirk Kuyt – £9m
Jermaine Pennant – £6.7m
Lucas Leiva – £6m
Alvaro Albeloa – £2.64m
Gabriel Paletta – £2m
Javier Mascherano – £1.5m
Nabil El Zhar – £200l
Total: £28.04m
Out:
Chris Kirkland – £3m
Florent Sinama Pongoll – £2.7m
Djimi Traore – £2m
Stephen Warnock – £1.5m
Jan Kromkamp – £1.5m
Antonio Barragan – £680k
Dietmar Hamann – £400k
Neil Mellor – £250k
Darren Potter – £250k
Danny O’Donnell – £100k
Total: £12.38m
2007/2008
In:
Fernando Torres – £25m
Javier Mascherano – £17.1m
Ryan Babel – £11.5m
Martin Skrtel – £6.5m
Yossi Benayoun – £5m
Sebastian Leto – £1.85m
Emiliano Insua – £1m
Total: £67.95m
Out:
Mohamed Sissoko – £8.2m
Craig Bellamy – £7.5m
Djibril Cisse – £6m
Mark Gonzalez – £4.2m
Total: £25.9m
2008/2009
In:
Robbie Keane – £19m
Alberto Riera – £8m
Andrea Dossena – £7m
Diego Cavalieri – £3.5m
David Ngog – £1.5m
Total: £39m
Out:
Robbie Keane – £12m
Peter Crouch – £10m
John Arne Riise – £4m
Scott Carson – £3.25m
Danny Gutherie – £2.5m
Steve Finnan – £1m
Total: £32.75
2009/2010
In:
Glen Johnson – £18m
Alberto Aquilani – £17m
Sotirios Kyrgiakos – £1.5m
Total: £36.5m
Out:
Xabi Alonso – £30m
Alvaro Arbeloa – £3.5m
Sebastian Leto – £1.3m
Paul Anderson – £250k
Total: £35.05m
TOTAL SPEND: £245.94m
Net spend: £115.86m
Manchester United
2004/2005
In:
Wayne Rooney – £27m
Alan Smith – £7m
Gabriel Heinze – £6.9m
John Obi Mikel – £4m
Giuseppe Rossi – £200k
Total: £45.1m
Out:
Nicky Butt – £2.5m
Eric Djemba-Djemba – £1.35m
Diego Forlan – £2m
Total: £5.85m
2005/2006
In:
Nemanja Vidic – £7m
Patrice Evra – £5.5m
Park Ji-Sung – £4m
Edwin Van der Sar – £2m
Ben Foster – £1m
Total: £19.5m
Out:
John Obi Mikel – £12m
Phil Neville – £3.5m
Kleberson – £2.5m
Jonathan Spector – £500k
Total: £18.5m
2006/2007
In:
Michael Carrick – £18.6m
Total: £18.6m
Out:
Ruud van Nistelrooy – £10.3m
Tim Howard – £3m
David Jones – £1m
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake – £300k
Total: £14.6m
2007/2008
In:
Anderson – £18m
Nani – £17m
Owen Hargreaves – £17m
Carlos Tevez – £10m
Tomasz Kuszczak – £2.5m
Da Silvas – £5m
Total: £69.5m
Out:
Gabriel Heinze – £8m
Giuseppe Rossi – £6.7m
Alan Smith – £6m
Kieran Richardson – £5.5m
Phil Bardsley – £2m
Ryan Shawcross – £1m
Total: £29.2m
2008/2009
In:
Dimitar Berbatov – £30.75m
Zoran Tosic and Adem Ljajic – £10m (potential of £17m)
Ritchie de Laet – £1m
Total: £41.75m
Out:
Gerard Pique – £6m
Chris Eagles – £1.25m
Total: £7.25m
2009/2010
In:
Antonio Valencia – £16m
Gabriel Obertan – £3m
Total: £19m
Out:
Cristiano Ronaldo – £80m
Fraziel Campbell – £3.5m (initial)
Lee Martin – £1.5m
Richard Eckersley – tribunal (est. £1m)
Total: £85m
TOTAL SPEND: £213.45m
Net spend: £52.05m
(Net spend without Ronaldo transfer fee: £132.05m)
Facts
Rafael Benitez has spent £32.49m more than Alex Ferguson since the summer of 2004.
Rafael Benitez’s net spend is £63.81m more than Alex Ferguson’s since the summer of 2004.
At the end of the 2003/2004 season, Manchester United finished 3rd, Liverpool finished 4th.
In 2004/2005 Manchester United finished 3rd, Liverpool finished 5th.
In 2005/2006 Manchester United finished 2nd, Liverpool finished 3rd.
In 2006/2007 Manchester United finished 1st, Liverpool finished 3rd.
In 2007/2008 Manchester United finished 1st, Liverpool finished 4th.
In 2008/2009 Manchester United finished 1st, Liverpool finished 2nd.
Since the summer of 2004 Alex Ferguson has won three league titles, one European Cup, two League Cups and one FIFA World Club Cup. Rafael Benitez has won no league titles, one European Cup and one FA Cup.
Fans
Let’s take a look at these brilliant Liverpool fans just in Rafael Benitez’s time as manager of Liverpool FC.
May 25th 2005: Liverpool supporter Graham Sankey from Anfield cracked the skull of a barman after throwing a brick at his head. Fellow Liverpool supporter Michael Shields was charged with attempted murder and sentenced to 15 years in prison but Sankey refused to come forward.
February 18th 2006: Liverpool fans throw excrement at Manchester United fans inside Anfield. Liverpool fans attack an ambulance containing Alan Smith.
April 23rd 2006: Liverpool fans vandalise Old Trafford with graffiti about Munich and Harold Shipman
May 23rd 2007: Liverpool fans steal tickets from their own fans and force their way in to the ground ticketless.
June 17th 2007: Liverpool named worst fans in Europe by UEFA
October 18th 2009: Liverpool fan throws Liverpool-crested beachball on to the pitch which deflects Darren Bent’s strike in to Pepe Reina’s net leading Liverpool to lose 1-0
For a man so keen on ‘facts’, it seems a little odd that Benitez would insist on repeatedly making completely false statements. Perhaps it stands to reason he would keep spouting lies though, in a bid to direct attention away from his failings as a manager, and make excuses for his lacking success, particularly in comparison to Sir Alex Ferguson, whose actual spend and net spend has been lower over the course of Benitez’s time in England.
Roll on the Rafalution!
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Some transfer prices weren’t set in stone, like Fernando Torres for example. Rafael Benitez claimed the cost of the operation (which involved Luis Garcia) was “around £20m”, whilst the press, Soccerbase and Transfer League had the transfer fee at £26.5m, so I’ve compromised. The Liverpool Echo claimed Garcia was worth £4m and Torres was worth £22.5m which would put him just short of the £27m get out clause.
The Robbie Keane issue is also another one up for debate. At present, Liverpool have received £12m but that has the potential to rise to £19m.
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake was initial fee was £200k but later rose to over £300k due to an appearance and goal clause (21 goals in 66 games).
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Scott Ive read this before on this site
not that your repeating yourself the FSW is repeating himself with this fact that is sooo far away from been a fact it funny
also…Ive just heard in this pub that manchester uniteds special guest to the match tomorrow is the priceless Eric Cantona
is this true
in rafa united trust!!!!!!!
nuff siad….
Rafa is such a cry baby cunt
Well that looks like a Fact to me. Hilarious, Scott, plus good analysis.
These are all facts.
Giles-How is your health,sir?
Rafa is trying to save his ass.
Nice one Scott
I suppose if you want to use “real” facts you can prove just about anything.
Rafa cannot tell the difference between what he would like things to be and what things really are. I hope he got his “facts” correct when he signed his contract as he might find himself refering to it sooner than he hoped.
What more can we say, it’s their year..
In a previous post, someone else mentioned his worry because it’s not easy and usual for a team to have 5 straight defeats. And because that 5 defeats are unlikely, he is worried that we might not beat Liverpool. Regarding this, again, it’s their year. Haha
Can we please stuff him once and for all?
He’ll see how great his fans are when we put them to the sword tomorrow. They’ll be baying for blood.
You took the words out ofmy mouth Costas! Fat horrible cunt. Would love to see his face tomorrow if we hammer them. Make sure you do lads.
With regard to the fans I am sick to fucking death of hearing the “celebrity fan” Peter fucking Hooton of the Farm and Spirit of Shankley being wheeled out on every radio station at the moment like they are some kind of saviours. Are they not aware that these cunts openly sing Munich chants at their end of year party? Celebrity my arse, a shit fucking scouse band not in the same league as the Stone Roses, Mondays, Carpets, New Order etc.
Has anybody told FSW about Haysel and Hillsborough?
05/06 we really bought some quality player at great prices.
this is the same old story. again and again. someone should put this analysis into the newspapers to make it all clear or to give a piece of paper with the analysis to FSW on some pressconference
FACT: FSW really is a fucking nutter. The FACTS don’t lie: Liverpool are shit.
Biram Diouf’s name isn’t on the list of players we signed this year. Although it prolly doesn’t change the numbers much as I couldn’t find an actual transfer fee for him. But if we want to consider this as fact his name should prolly be there.
Great article Scott. It’s just shows how little Rafa knows about Pewl’s history to say something as dumb as they have great supporters.
One word: UNITED! I cant effin wait for tomorrow. I cant see us loose it tbh, the dippers wont have enough in them for that, it will either be a draw or a win for the Red Army.
Benitez is THE FACT HUNTER
When you bounce on the pitch, Hold your valve up high, and don’t be afraid of the ball.
At the end of the match, speaks a Spanish guy
of the pure injustice of it all.
Roll on, through the wind, Roll on, through the rain, Though your form be tossed and blown.
Roll on, Roll on.
With air in your sphere, And you’ll never roll alone, You’ll never roll alone.
To the tune of dipper anthem. Now sing along. When you ……………
Did we even pay 4m for Mikel?
Dint he sign for free or am I wrong?
C’mon ya know why that fat cunt has come of with this statement. The way he has his team playing at the minute his only alternative to try and keep his fat ass in a job is to butter up those bindipping, jobless fucks!
Hey Scott. Great article as always.
I do think that FSW is a shit manager and he is really lucky that there are some even bigger shit heads around LFC which prevents FSW from being singled out for their failures.
But i am curious to know their record for the start of the premier league era (in all competitions) till FSW took charge of LFC. I am sure it wouldn’t be much better than the time under FSW.
And if what i think is correct than i believe it is wrong to blame FSW, they were a poor team before he came and i am sure it will remain the same even if he goes.
Happy birthday, Wazza!
great article scott just goes to show that the FSW does’nt know his facts but can always try to find a scapegoat to deflect his failure in pleasing those dippers by bringing trophies to anfield and the funny thing is that they’re deluded enough to believe him. hope we beat them to tomorrow and i’m confident we will. then guys i can assure you we should brace ourselves for beneathus’ FACTS episode 2. this is their year. long live the rafalution!
@Corea
i second that. i hope he makes it tomorrow and can cap it off with a goal as a birthday present in saying this it is very possible he’ll score against them if he features.imagine him and owen with red nev celebrating at the kop that would be priceless(owen replaces berba after a sublime game as usual with a goal and assist.)!:-)
when is the baby due mate?
Scott The Red – what did we receive for Manucho this summer? Does that need to be included in the breakdown too? Rafa’s a cunt. Owen to score a winner in injury time is priced at 33/1 in case any one fancies a punt.
I don’t know what you guys are all on about, I love Benitez. I think he’s a first rate manager with excellent interpersonal skills, who’s done very well in the transfer market considering his very, very severe lack of funds. Sure, he’s never won the league and it doesn’t look like he’s ever going to, but let’s give him another chance! Meanwhile, United makes off with #19.
LOL at this
June 17th 2007: Liverpool named worst fans in Europe by UEFA
SHocked init!!!
I hope that slimy bastard stays at anfield forever. He really is making a fucking show of himself. 4 straight defeats… that’ll do me.
Long live Rafa
Scott you might be interested to know that your Garry Neville animation where he is the one to throw the beachball onto the pitch appeared on foxsports down here in Oz. Unfortunately they didnt give you credit.
i do think if FSW work at other club, he must have been gone long time ago. i do think only 2,3 of his signings had worked out in favour of him, and practically he cut his own throat by letting xabi alonso to real madrid this season. he is just talking and keep talking without any sense of logic. “fact” that he was saying are all purely crap…
stupid FSW
These facts are finally filtering through. If you notice, there’s a new set of moans coming out; it’s not the buying of players they can’t afford, it’s the wages! That’s why they have a thin squad.
Me I think the chance to play for Liverpool, and get burgled during away games, is as attractive as a battery-acid enema.
They were insufferable shits when they were winning stuff so don’t think it’s their 20 year barren streak making them sour, they always were!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/benitezs-best-buys-and-rafas-rejects-1807108.html?action=Popup&ino=10
enough said….
exellent article mate, sums the fat spanish waiter up eh,
SAF IS GOD!
look at the shite he signs compared to us, could only think of 1 id av had before he wore ther dipper scum shirt-ladyboy
theyd love every1 of our signings.
berbs to score first to silence the flop,
build a bonfire build a bonfire
put the scousers on the top
put the waiter and his spaniards
and well burn the fukin lot
ha its rooneys birthday today. hope he plays tomorrow. what a gift for us all that would be
off topic i think this is tha startin XI we shud go with
vds
nev tha red/rio/vidic/evra
valencia/carrick/anderson/giggs
rooney/owen
fergie said rooney fit n rearing to go from report
n i wad like to c both of them start cus of past merseyside connestction
I might have my head around the wrong way with this, but surely, without the Ronaldo fee we would have a deficit of around 28m and not a net spend of 132m?????
Rafa has spent the money and built himself a squad. And it’s shit. Liverpool cannot be taken seriously with him in charge when it comes to the title.
I’m fine Boogeymen, just back after a week in Turkey to prepare for next round of treatment next month. A bit of warmth and relaxation. Had a great time. Watched the victory against Bolton in a bar where the two big screens had United on, while the small one tucked away at the back had Liverpool v Sunderland. For some strange reason that room was very, very quiet. Fact. On one occasion I got a taxi driver who was an amazing lookalike for Ian Rush, even down to that demented pulled-face expression he had when he scored, so of course we got talking. He was indeed a Liverpool supporter (the Prem gets loads of coverage there and everyone knows all the teams and players) but when I asked who his favourite player was, expecting it to be Rush, he said, ‘Bobby Charlton!’ . I also saw the Moscow game in the same bar, this time all screens had United. Isn’t Valencia getting better all the time? Anyway, my finest moment was on an excursion. We went to this ruined Ancient Greek city called Miletus which has one of those classic, fan-shaped theaters, still used for performances, with seating for several thousand. Anyway, our guide ( a Fenerbarce supporter , by the way) asked our group for a volunteer to sing to show the wonderful acoustics after over 2000 years. No takers. Then he said, ‘Well, won’t someone make a speech?’ So I ‘reluctantly’ said I’d do it as no-one else would. So as they took their seats way up near the back I gave my little speech, saying how we’d heard all about different religious beliefs over the centuries in Turkey, like the pagans who used to perform in this very theatre. I said I was Christian, my beloved wife is Jewish, our guide is Muslim, like many of my friends back home, and religion has an important place in all our lives. My audience is taking all this in, nodding approvingly, and then I said, ‘But there are others who live by another religion as well. Like millions of people I worship Manchester United!’ Cue laughter. ‘So now,’ I said,’ I’d like to test the famous acoustics with an old spiritual’, before launching into a rousing rendition of, ‘Glory, Glory, Man United!’ Cue applause. Then I said, ‘Some people don’t only worship United, they have their own special god, or ‘Dieu’ as we call him’, completing my little show with an arm-waving, Pete Boyle-style version of ‘Ooh Ah, Cantona’! I have to say in all modesty it went down well, and the acoustics are truly amazing. No microphone, yet the sound hits the back row without even trying. Sadly, Gotta Hate, no cameras there to record it for posterity, so no threat to Emily’s pre-eminence in this field. Afterwards one of the women in our group came up and said she’d have done the old Millwall song, ‘Everyone hates us, and we don’t care’, if she’d known what I was going to do. A lucky escape, I guess.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/features/expert_opinion/FX15193091024-1118.htm
Classic speech Giles! Good to see you are in good health & preaching the good word!
Scott thanks for the “Facts” , Giles , loved the story, Vaz – hope all the travelling supporters printed up the words – hilarious , I love this site it actually makes me feel as if I’m back in Manchester . The dippers illusions of last and previous seasons are being exposed for exactly that , illusions . Sure hope that Eric is there tomorrow , no wonder they call Manchester the city of irony ” Au revoir Cantona , come back when you’ve got 18 ” ya gotta lovit .
@Giles : really good to hear that. take care, get well soon
flecthers deffo out
not sure acutally it said on sky sports news flecthers out but on there site says doubtful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSLIGo_7xGc
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WPb465au6wE&hl=en&gl=PL&client=mv-google
http://www.tribalfootball.com/liverpool-fear-torres-may-become-unsettled-401601 what abov this one!
I have us winning 3-2 and am hoping to collect. But any victory over Lpool will be ok for me. I hate the sight of the FSW & wonder how the hell SAF can bear sharing wine with this bxxxxxx.
United we stand
Wow,
The memories that those transfer lists bring back! Some real bargains over the years, some things that didn’t work out and some players we should have got more money for (Blake!)
Ritchie De Laet has to be one of the best buys, he is a great player and along with the twins, we clearly are covered in our full back positions!
We didn’t really have to keep Pique, but as I think he’ll become one of the top defenders in Europe, I still think it is a shame he had to go. Players like Diego Forlan, who were bought because they were clearly talented, then don’t pul it off in the English game but go back abroad and bang in goals left, right and centre… he was never a waste of money as some United fans would say, he was a great player, we took a risk and the gamble never paid off.
Then I think about how much I supported Alan Smith, 7m for doing not a lot at all, a few great goals on a run early in his United career, then that injury at Anfield pretty much took it out of him, his swan song had to be that great goal on an even greater night as we beat Roma 7-1 (a game which I didn’t see live as I’d just arrived in NYC…).
As for Rafa… He is a TWAT.
Please, Fergie, put Brown in the first team. No Gary please.
*just seen his picture in some of the earlier Scott’s entries.
A Uefa spokesman, William Gaillard, accused Liverpool supporters of stealing tickets “out of the hands of children”, adding, “we know what happened in Athens and Liverpool fans were the cause of most of the trouble there”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/liverpool-are-the-worst-fans-in-europe-says-uefa-report-451610.html
I heared that the dippers are going to change their antom.
Instead of you’ll never walk alone they are going to sing WE’LL NEVER WALK AGAIN !!!!!coz these scum of the earth are going to go rotten like Leeds Utd in a mere short time !!! And by the way this is a fact considering all the trouble and scuffle they have !!!!
1-4 result from shanfield,
sorry forgot to mention- berbs n valencia 1st half- 2-0 lead
rooney then dipper consolation before mickey mouse rounds rain drops to slot in for 4
poor fsw, he hed had as much money as us to spend theyd be a few players shorter and even shitter,
sign on sign on
with poison in your hearts
coz theyl never win the league
THEYL NEVER WIN THE LEAGUE
torres you pissy little flea
you sucked c..k in your own country
it was a lot worse when you were in madrid
because he was abused when he was a kid,
not as good as original but good eh?
whats up with big edwin?
the website was on skynews this mornin !!!
Good fuckin morning everyone on this wonderful day that misses Rooney is still poled , I have no news and I was just wondering if anyone knows the INS and outs for each team today. Also last night I was talkin to a dipper and I dunno if it’s because I’m a big Irish united fan with a pint or because he wasn’t deluded but he was spot on ripping Liverpool to bits, he said veronan and Lucas are not only not Liverpool quility there not prenuership quility. He said Alonso been sold is Leeds sellin cantona. Any injury updates and o read some one sad united 4-1 been a bit kind to Liverpool there 4-0 cuuuuuummmmmm on
look at this…. the virus want St Stevie of me…
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8671_5648124,00.html
fact – dippers are a bunch of cheating divers. fact- they got more unworthy pk’s than anybody last season. xabi alonso was the biggest flopper, thank god he’s gone!
biggest worry is that fsw is going to to have the dippers come out and go to ground every chance they get. i figure there only chance is to try and get our players carded and sent off, picking up pk attempts in the process.
fact- that’s how they cheated and won so many games last year and finished 2nd
fact- i hate rafa, the dippers, that fck’n toilet called anfield, and that stupid fck’n song they drunkenly sing before rioting, i mean supporting their misguided team
fact- i can’t wait to see all the cantona masks out there!
evds,brown,rio,vidic,evra
valencia,ando,carrick,giggs
berbs,owen
rooney shud play last 20 minutes, hel have fire in his belly after missing games and the energy will be oozing out of him.
lets smash these bastards.
UNITED UNITED
Had such a stange dream last night, not making this up, no joke. We won 4-2 and for some reason beckham scored our fourth, and I can’t remember the other goalscorers. The match was at night too, it was pitch black. At the end of the match, the utd players took out toy guns that had ball pit balls as ammunition, contrary to the beach ball incident I suppose, as the ball pit balls were mostly red.
I am predicting a 3-1 win, Berba, Giggsy and Owen scoring the third
is rooney fit to play????????????????????????
2-0 stitch for that you scruffy manc cunts
Torres the new Ronaldo? Not in goal scoring but in diving….man-lady blowing a flat in his high heels.
Jaysus when you think back! Edwin van der Sar 2million squids wow!