When the Da Silvas first joined Manchester United, the boss used Fabio’s wedding ring to tell him apart from identical brother Rafael. Since our right-back got married in the summer, Sir Alex Ferguson now struggles to tell them apart.
“When we came to the club, Fabio had just got married and wore a ring so our boss just had to look at the left hand to tell us apart. It was quite funny,” said Rafael. “But now we are both married and wear rings. This has made his life more difficult and occasionally he still gets it wrong. We laugh, but he takes it well.”
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first!!!
Rafael is married, too, so the wedding ring doesn’t help identify them anymore
2nd just to piss people off
fuck off with the “first” crap
dammit.!! loll
neil …6th muppet
jesus, I didn’t even read the comments before I posted. I’m exhausted, chalk it up to that
The innocence of youth.
“But now we are both married and wear rings. This has made his life more difficult and occasionally he still gets it wrong. We laugh, but he takes it well.”
This is probably said by every wife.
The whole ‘First’ thing has got old. It needs to go. Makes the place look like it’s full of retards.
Meanwhile I’m not sure if it actually matters which Da Silva is which. Does each play differently? I couldn’t tell for the life of me. I know they play on opposite wings, but they seem to have the same qualities as players. Truly a nightmare to play against.
The twins, oh the twins
Legs as fast as wings
Running likd the wind
Gave us our win
CHUKWU MBAANA!
Every opposition player’s nightmare when they are both on the pitch…you doubt me?…as L’Ass.
Me too Fergie lol. Wouldn’t It be funny, if they were both married to twins? lol.
Doghouse says:
The whole ‘First’ thing has got old. It needs to go. Makes the place look like it’s full of retards.
I strongly disagree…. people like to have the Craic…it will die its own death in time and for people to keep dissing it…… keeps ‘retards’ doing it…. just ignore it
Just to add, i dont know why some on here work their pants off whenever another comes up with the ‘first’ stuff…is there any need to be so uptight? I dont do it but let whoever wants to do as they please until the moderator makes it one of the ‘don’ts’.
last!!!!!!!!!
How’s it having the craic being a fucktard posting that you’re first? Every post lately is started with some Gimp writing “first”. It’s old, let’s move on
Strange not to have Costas here yet.
Anyone got any news of vida’s inability to train with the squad?
looks like we’ll get Nani back!
this is brilliant, Nani and Tony playing together, gonna rip the Marseille defence apart!
Very strange.
I have solved the conundrum in identifying the twins
It’s their chins
Fabio has a little dimple like spot in his chin and Raf doesn’t
Yes all proceeds can be forwarded to my bank account lol
Another dynamite comic from studsup this time about the Da Silvas
http://www.studs-up.com/
I’d have to agree with its take on Obertan too.
how can there still have people continue with these shit first, second! Stop that and bring valuable arguments please.
@ smartalex
Classic mate
Studsup Comic is gold too! Jury’s still out on Obertan but hilarious if nothing else.
@MG haha, that’s exactly how I could tell…
How you doing Willie? Have been some uncharacteristic short posts from you…gives me an impression that your hands might be very busy else where. Hmmm!
FFS they are both married by 20? Live your life lads.
28th!!!
Great job MG now where’s my cheque book.
Ahh! There he is
imagine Nani+Tony wings with twins in backfield
It’s very easy to tell the Da Silvas apart. One has curly hair.
I think someone’s about to be electricuted for ’28th’ lol.
First
Both married by 20, shows how committed they are at this stage of their careers. Neither need to be playing trivial life games when they have all they can handle at United. Hopefully it means more to them than it did to WR10.
Stay grounded lads and keep banging it on the pitch like you did this week.
@SirAlex’sSon
Hi mate. Don’t worry. It’s those yelling “first” that annoy us the most.
They called you the ‘The Johnny Evans of RoM’ the other day, maybe today you’ll be ‘A Darron Gibson the 28′.
now im last!!!!
SirAlex’sSon – lol.
Only those without craic, stone who cast ‘first.’
Rant – to speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way.
“I said your cock is way too fucking small! You are a selfish all-deceiving hypocrite! Only real men with real big cocks need apply! Take your shriveled penis and piss off!”
My enormous member proudly reverberates, reflected through my determined support and the quality of my penmanship. Not for me the wasted giggles of the foolish rabble, for I am impeded in my quest.
@ Costas any word on why vidic didnt train today?
@SirAlex’sSon
Sir Alex said that he received treatment for a knock he had. He should be ok for Marseille thankfully.
@mexican OLe, watch it son!
Off topic but fucking crinhgeworhy. That spanish cunt balague and faty boy spud kelly and rentboy mattaface having a fucking wankfest over barca and arsenal. Saying barca without doubt THE best team ever. Plenty of callers mentioning milan juve even fucking napoli who had a couple of decent seasons but not ONE cunt has mentioned any of the many united teams that have dominated england for two fucking decades. Not fucking one. Someone called in and said they can’t even beat enlish or german or italian teams to which ponce balague replied look at their european record. Err ok I will you cunt. Beaten by united three year ago, should NEVER have even been in rome but robbed the chavs and were tuirned over by milan last year so barythelona aren’t all that really are they guillem? The cunt everytime oi hear him goes on about this story of villa and icebaths and that at balenthia he never had an icebath but at barca he has to as the first in are puyol and xavi. So fucking what rafas bumboy. Uinited have been having them for time. He was then asked which players in ingerlund would get in. Now this is fucking priceless. Wilshire and fucking bale. The pair are over rated beyond belief. How about vida as he ten times the degfednder blockhead pique and puyol are. Or nani or evra. Fiucking cunt.
They then say how arsenal play the second best in europe. You could not make it up. Prasing wenger and not once mentioning the fact they haven’t beaten united for three years. Its fucking sickening. They arte saying they don’t know why arsenal fans are so down as they could well win the league. Oh get fucked. Do they look like they have the desire balls or steel to win the league? No do they fuck. I have actually nearly been sick due to the constant arse loicking of the diving tica taca barthelona and NOW fucking wenger and arsenal who have won fuck all in six bastard years.
Rant over.
@Costas, thanks mate. Knew i could always count on you.
Completly off topic
Anyone fr some really good news concerning our friends in merseyside?
I like crack. Not drugs either.
Could i ask you all truly what postion do you honestly think the scum will end up in at the end of the season?
Personally 92nd would be too high for me but we can’t have everything I suppose
King Eric, couldn’t agree more, it is fucking sickening. Like when “they” crap on about how The Arse or Barca-fucking-lona “deserved” to win, even when they fucking didn’t, because they played “beautiful football”, “football the way it was meant to be played”. Fuck me. Last time I checked, the better team was decided by the scoreboard, period. Since when did these deluded cunts come up with the idea that it should be scored subjectively by what they think is good, like gymnastics or figure fucking skating or synchronized fucking swimming? Synchronized masturbating, is what it is. Fucking cocksuckers.
Right, think I deserve a beer or three. Cheers lads, back later, if I can still type.
King Eric – I’m listening to It. One caller made a good point about the Milan team of the 90s, they had to beat better sides at the time. Balague did say, the United teams in the 90s, were just as good going forward as Barcelona.
RedHarry4Life (obviously I haven’t gone quite yet, hahaha), er, 93rd? Anyway, what was the good news?
@king eric, one question; is you tv still intact. Cause i salute your courage and patience sitting over and watching all of that and still not let someone have it.
I for one would have 1. Turned the tv off/switch channel.
2. Fucking smash my tv, and surely later regret my action.
Coys mate!
@ King Eric
And that is what makes ROM fantastic. Mild reprieve from the media.
Re: Arsenal and they’re “brilliant” football. They were just shut down by a midfield consisting of JOS, Darren Gibson and an out of position Wayne Rooney FFS. They haven’t got the bottle to buy a lottery ticket, never mind winning a championship. Go get 3 vs Sunderland and we’ll talk.
what abt their wives. can they tell the difference
viva da silvas, mon lads keep it going
Ooops! Radio/stereo i guess…ahhh fuck it!!¥
I believe that there may be only ONE Europa cup spot left for the EPL ie whoever finishes 5th.
This due to Birmingham getting a spot for winning the Worthless cup, and either Stoke or Bolton getting another via the FA cup, as United will have already qualified for the Champions league.
Think it’s pretty safe to assume that the scum won’t be in the top 4 – then that means to get a EUROPEAN place they will have to finish 5th. Now wouldntb that be sad after “all thoise wonderful european nights at shitfield”
Poor scouse scum not even in Europe next season
I wonder if the Da Silva’s are devout catholics, where marriage is the carriage for sex. Far better that they have loving wives and family at home, than they galavant with Uncle Pat, and Wes.
Exactly stateside ididnotseeit and sir alexs son. I apprteciate barca are a good team but personally like the goons on saturday I find it boring. Over playing and trying to walk the ball into the net. Get ot out the flanks like united do. Its boring watching a side have nearly eighty percent possesion then eventually getting a breakthrough. That ninety four united side would have ripped thje cunts apart on the counter. The most annoying hing though is their euopean record aint all that. But for a paid ref at the bridge they wouldn’t have even had a sniff of a european cup final since they beat artsenal again with luck considering lehman was sent off in the first few minutes. Fucking messi hasn’t even svored in england. Flat track fucking bullies. I REALLY want to have a go at them with a fullish aquad over two legs. Pique and that longhaired cunt puyol aint fit to lace rio and vidics boots. The bubble will burst mark my words. Also peope forget to mention what cheating horrible cunts they are when it isn’t going their way from messi to alvez to busquets. Sevilla could have done the fuckers last night. Ajax and milan have dominated europe for a hgood spell. Hell even the dippers did. These overhyped shortarses haven’t managed that and haven’t even dominated their domestic league for anywhere like two decades ala united
Willie. Yeah mate he did briefly mention united of the early nineties but how about the team from a couple of years ago. We were outstanding going forward. Now with a fit nani and tony v and rooney hernandez let’s start shredding teams. Some of tje counter attacks on saturday were top drawer. Funniest thing was ballague saying arsenal could dominate england for years with the talent of wilshire and the other kids. What fucking kids? They obviously haven’t seen our talented young uns. I really am getting sick of hearing about barthe fucking lona. Bore off.
Goodnight lads. Sure’ll need tonights’ rest cause it gonna be a long day tomorrow that’ll be made longer by our match.
Night fellas.
I just called them bastards on Talksport – obviously wasn’t live, just spoke to somebody. I said the following: ‘I have just been listening to your piffle First of all are you aware that it is Sir Alex?, so please refer to him as that and not Fergie or Ferguson and stop waxing lyrical over Arsenal making out they are the powerhouse of European Football and talking about our decline. Arsenal haven’t won a trophy for six years and we have set the standards in the Premiership that everyone aspires to. Remember that pal!’
King Eric – Preach on my friend!! I’ve been thinking the exact same for years now. Barca are the kings of diving, whinging, bitching, and bullying the referees. Uefa seems absolutely hell bent on them succeeding. Every win of theirs in Europe is surrounded with controversy. This can’t be pure coincidence.
When Ronny was in our squad all we heard about was his supposed diving and theatrics and how he should be more like messi. Fuck me. Messi dives more now than Ron ever did.
And to hear how great the Spanish league is. Even more shameful. 2 teams are good. the rest are piss poor. How many English teams will most likely be into the next round? I guess English football is in the duldrums(sic)
What a bunch of bullshit. Barca’s players deserve to get kicked up[ and down the pitch. They’re going to dive and force a yellow onto their opponents so why not get stuck in and really earn the foul?
Bunch of fucking ponces.
TonyBee, today I definitely am a muppet. I need to go to bed
Balague says United get all the decisions. He’s not saying that though, must be fat Rafa, whispering sweets nothings in his ear.
For a team that prides itself on playin the beautiful way they are quite an example of piss lickin pussies. That goes for the spanish team. If portugal had a good manager, no disrespect to our man Queiroz, they wouldn’t have stood a chance of playin in the final.
It’s all a conspiracy.
Loathe Barca more than than anything else.
Slow day today
Could be that the scousers can’t afford to sling their game against Arsenal and will have to try to get something out of the game if they hope to prevent King Kenny being the man who leads them to failure to qualify for Europe.
Riijkard’s team was more attractive, and way better than this shit of a team.
Red deviled egg. Great post mate. Absolutely spot on. As giles oakley said on here a week or so ago. That result at the bridge and the non awarding of about four clear penalties to the rentboys stank to the extent money must have exchanged hands.
Kings. Ha ha. Did you bell them? Sadly I have done it a couple of times before and didn’t mind paying the bill just to get it off my chest. I have vented my spleen a few times to the cunts on the switchboard who are all southerners and don’t sound as though they give a fuck. They will hate united aswell. It feels better to get it off your chest though doesn’t it? I have give them stick a few times especially over dirty cunt collymore. All they say is “ok thanks neil we will pass that on”. Cunts the lot of them mate.
Don’t worry Rafael, we’ve been here longer than Fergie, and he still mixes us up.
After the line up from left field against arsenal, we could start Cathy from Reception without raising too many of my eyebrows.
King Eric – proper passion
Rai. Cheers mate but as kings said it was absolute “piffle“ they were talking on there tonight. Seriously. Bale and wilshire THE only premier league players that could get in barca. What no scholes,vidic, evra,nani, etc couldn’t? Never heard such nonsense. Ballague will have an agenda as he is the fat spanish waiters bumboy. It would have annoyed the most placid of fans hearing that bollocks tonight mate.
Seriously this 1st bollocks is getting ridiculous, pissing off not just me but other fans of the blog too. I mean come on, get a grip – what are you 12 years old?! Loving The Da Silva twins more and more each week, shouldn’t be too long until they both are regulars in The Brazil senior team!
King Eric – Yeah belled them mate. Like you, I felt it necessary to get it off my chest, having to listen to the absolute shit they come out with, bad mouthing United. Yeah I feel better for it mate, even though as you rightly said, the guy probably won’t pass on the message. I take exception to anyone who speaks ill of United and the more they do that, the more I will abuse them, using the most offensive choice of words necessary. Bunch of fucking cunts. Bale is a fucking monkey and Wilshere is an odd-bodied little cunt.
FIRST!!!!
Adrian Durham was sick today but I think he would have laid into Arsene Wenger today….like he said last week, the next week or so was going to sum up Arsenal and define their season…usual story…no bottle. Don’t see the point in wanking over a team who time and time again show they haven’t got the strength of character when they really need it.
Apparently:
-It is bad to submit a comment of ‘First’, particularly so if you are first.
-It is good to complain about a comment of ‘First’, even if many others have.
I wonder:
-Is it bad to wonder, why so much is said, by so many, about so few? There is only one first.
One person per blog gleefully claims ‘First’ , and the floodgates open.
There can be a separate blog where people complain by number about numbers.
And if you shout ‘First’ you get hung, drawn and quartered.
Alternatively, mail Scott with your censorship requests.
Were I to do that, my expressed concern would regard wilful slander of Sir Alex.
give it another season and the twins will definately be prized assets… if anyone thinks they arent already!
LUHG
Add me on twitter – Shahid_KC
Rai. Yeah mate durham would have laid into arsenal and wenger. That is one thing he is good at. Winding arsenal fans up. Ha.
Vidic a doubt, Nani back
King Eric – all those hours sitting next to Ian Wright probably turned him against Arsenal! He’ll be back tomorrow anyway..
Terry getting captaincy back?
Rio should retire.
@smartalex
Hi mate. I wouldn’t mind if someone said first and then proceeded to add his comments about the topic in hand. But to drop a “first” comment and then disappear, only shows disrespect to the work Scott is putting in and to those that will comment after you. That’s how I see it anyway. And it’s becoming an annoying trend.
And It’s becoming an annoying trend. Spot on Costas, like losing at anfield 3 years in a row!
That’s a crappy trend and it has to end next season. Ravel showed us the way.
Oh and Rio should retire from England. I agree. What’s it going to take for him to realize it.
Oh yeh just to reiterate what so many of you already know – City fans are fuckin BITTER BASTARDS.
After the FC game on Saturday I watched the United game in a pub in Manchester, who decides to walk in during the game? A city fan. Who decides to take exception to us having a few drinks and a sing song? A city fan. Who gets told to quieten down because we’re inciting trouble? Us. Found out one of the bar staff supported city and blamed us!!! Needless to say we just carried on anyway but still…
Costas, Hi mate! Thanks for your informative and reasoned discussion of the ‘first’ lady, i mean topic, whoops! I understand your reaction; disrespect, especially if repetitive, is annoying. There are many many comments that show total disrespect. I am often clear that a person commenting could not have read the blog, or the comments below.
I am sure that readers will consider your views, more so than those of other, more selfish contributors, who denigrate without reason. I am also sure that the majority of people whose only contribution to the blog is ‘First’ , are true fans and ROM regulars, whose browsing pattern results in never seeing a comment-less blog. Their unbounded glee as the realization of what the uncluttered landscape means, is overtaken by a mad scramble to type the first … that will do…First!
I always smile when I see that comment heading the entries, especially when their glee overpowers their ability to comment further. Of great amusement to me, is a rushed one word splurge, with a typo!
Costas hit the nail on the head, it’s disrespectful and is no better than spamming with ads. You’d have to be a real sad cunt to get some sense of achievement out of it, and i’m afraid I have no time for sad cunts when the majority of users on here provide great debates and conversations about United.
King Eric et al – glad to see I’m not the only one that finds Barca incredibly boring. For all their possession and shit against Arsenal they were one goal away from going out and it took a fabregas cock up and a penalty to send them through. Best team ever my fucking arse. Their backline and keeper isn’t shit compared to United’s.
Fist!
I’m sure that I suggested to willierednut at least ten times that the pace and style of the European games suits Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes.
apparently, according to the ever-reliable guardian, nani wants to move to italy
@King Eric
” I apprteciate barca are a good team but personally like the goons on saturday I find it boring.”
Come on;be real. Barcelona and Arsenal are miles apart, to the latter it comes naturally to the gooners its practically forced . I can why you say “boring” but its unfair to label them that, for all intents and purposes they do play good football.
Just like you say we’d had ripped them on the counter it shows the different style of both clubs, United are willing to wait to attack – soak up pressure, then hit them on the break. They on the other hand want to have the ball all the time and spring into action the moment the opening presents itself
Cant stand the fuckers myself let me tell you and the “Synchronized masturbation ” Lol StatesideAussie
that goes with it. Its just a style of playing not the “definitive” way. SAF said as much in an article i read recently about how teams are being psyched into submission
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1365711/Barcelonas-reputation-scaring-teams-says-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html
For me they can be well beaten;the truth is those guys haven’t had anyone test their defense without trying to copy them or parking a plane in front of goal cough – inter – cough . Its simple come up with a team that can knock their defenders and fullbacks out of their comfort zone and i guarantee you they’ll start shitting themselves. I believe United can do it but it has to be said that it will be very difficult simply because we’re not on top of our game and don’t have that feel good factor from sweeping all and sundry before them.
Bigphil. Spot on mate. It is indeed fucking boring. IF van persie had been on the field he would have buried that bendtner chance thus sending barca out. So with that and the robbery at the bridge the so called best team ever wouldn’t have appeared in a european cup final for five years. Its all pretty fucking triangles and impossible passes. Some people may find it beautiful to watch. I don’t. Give me blood and thunder of the premiership anyday.
Costas. Too right mate. The youth showed the first team what digging in getting stuck in and grinding out a win at anfield is all about.
Olympique Marseille v Manchester United Quality english 20 min video of 1st leg.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xh6bhb_olympique-marseille-v-manchester-united_sport
95th!
Apparently Nani wants to leave, troubling news. Fergie, sign him up!
Slim. Not yet mate but assuming we get past marseille , which at home , I am confident of then we will be getting key players back and I would fancy our chances over two legs. Like you say take alvez and the left back out the game stifle xavi and watch them have no plan b. Easy in theory! However over two legs I would fancy us. Our away record in europe is second to none. Theirs over here is pretty poor. As demonstrated second half last night by sevilla attack the cunts and they don’t like it.
Fucking cunts in media trying to unsettle nani and united now. Why the fuck would he go to italy? They banged on about vida and evra leaving and they signed up so now they go for the next flavour of the year in nani. Fuck off. The only thing the press have got right is the rooney debacle.
all he has to do is look in their eyes. Rafael is the evil twin
seriously, who wants Nani ? the virus ?
Apparently Wenger knows how to beat us at OT. http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/arsene-wenger/article/2816/
I amazed of this man’s inability to outsmart SAF, he has no clue how to beat us these days. Yet, he’s talking about Marseille’s chance at OT. The man is a big joke
Rafael and Fabio think that “occasionally he still gets it wrong.” Sir alex won’t confuse 2 players, identical twins or not. He must have an incredible understanding and connection to the soul of each artist. The twins are led to their conclusions, by willing minds and an able teacher.
The only reason that Nani will be going to Italy is to be measured for his new Ferrari.
Or Nani is going to go and model for Giorgio Armani
Goodnight Reds
Time to write history today and march on
Wait a minute there are 2 Da Silvas?
King Eric @ 1:11: “Why the fuck would he go to italy?”
La dolce vita.
It could just be a ploy for a new contract, and I reckon Inter would want him, he can play on the wing instead of Pandev
Link to the Nani moving to Italy article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/mar/15/nani-manchester-united-move-italy
Well, the author has written some really good stuff about United in the past, so he is no ABU. Its tempting to just dismiss it as bullshit but I think there is something there. Whether its him wanting a fatter contract since seemingly everyone else got one or because he wants to move, who knows.
after all this nani moving to Italy, this is some different news on him it may be rather old but still some of you may have missed and its little lengthy sorry for that
”
I ’ m sure we have all heard of the life sized marble statue that Nani has of himself
in his Wilmslow mansion , doesn’ t sound like the best investment but yesterday
the News of The World gave us an insight into the Portuguese wingers life that
shows despite his extravagances he is just like everyone else !
His girlfriend Daniella Martins gave us an insight into his life and spending
habits claiming,
“We both come from humble beginnings in Portugal and know what it ’ s like to
struggle .
“We often say to each other , ‘ Don ’ t spend too much , be careful !’ We ’ re aware
that we could go back to nothing.
“When I go shopping at Tesco I look for bargains . Nani loves Müller Crunch
Corners and I get them when they ’ re on special offer . You can get six in a deal
for £ 2 . 96 . I ’ d never buy just four because you can ’ t save money that way .
“And Nani loves Krispy Kreme doughnuts so I buy the big box because we save
doing that.
“We shop in Ikea for furniture and I get clothes in Primark. ”
”
source – thebusbyway.com
king Eric, statesideaussie, kings
regarding the Barca wankfest, I completely agree with your opinion and just as an extension.I just want to try put a blue print of how we can beat them with some clever tactics
1 – play nani/valencia on wings instead of park as opposed to most of you who might say he can double up on that flank, because of the offensive threat they possess and even nani has been doing his share of defensive duties so I guess it won’t be and issue
2 – put park in middle and let him mark Xavi out of the game as he did with pirlo
3 – play carrick/fletch infront of defence, let carrick have his revenge and which may bring back the form of his early years.at united
I just can’t wait to see us beat them, hope we draw them in next round
a tailpiece – for all those Messi asslickers, although he is an exceptional player still I just want to tell them two things
1 – does he have a right foot, you can barely see him use that
2 – 9 out of 10 times he tries to dribble past the defenders with his great left foot, very predictable, he is simply a better version of Arjen Robben
@ancha agreed regarding the barca wankfest. Its getting sickening reading about them. The ‘best team in the world’ is not for them. Understood that they play ‘beautiful’ football and have the likes of messi, xavi and iniesta, they SUCK defensively. Anyone brave enough to take the fight to then can defeat them. Just as SAF said, teams get scared of playing Barca and lose the psychological battle.
We have arguably the best defense in Europe, a lethal wingplay and, on their day, a great strike force of Rooney, chicha and The Berb. Also Owen, if fit. Only weak point is our midfield, something that we all have been moaning about. One creative mid in the summer and BAM! we are the best in the world.
But we can beat Barca this season as well. We all read about our players’ disappointment regarding Rome and am sure SAF mirrors their sentiments.
Plus am getting sick of Pep as well. He seems a little arrogant.
Your tactics seem logical to me. I’d go with 4-5-1. Rooney in mid and The Pea as lone striker.
Btw Nani story sounds shit to me. Don’t think he will leave. If he does, then i will have a weird feeling about the ball he signed for me.
I am beginning to think that we mayn’t need a mid who will go straight in to first team, in an ideal world next season if Anderson stays fit,with proper pre season under his belt and regular run of games, he will be the driving force and the link up between our mid and fwds, and young talented Cleverley will also be available and he is very well capable of sharing the load with Anderson, with the experience of fletch/carrick/scholes and the youngsters like Tunnicliffe/pogba/Morrison will also be up for it in one or two seasons,
keeping all this in mind, if we bring in some very talented mid, I’m not sure how he would fit in with out blocking the progress of the players I have mentioned above,
I guess we may see only one signing and that of a goalie for sure! along with some talented ‘prospects’ if any are available
the point here is no matter who you bring in if they are not up for it they won’t look any better than carrick/fletch, even Bastian Schweinsteiger/ De Rossi are not their usual best this season, It’s not the personel It’s the confidence and the form in which they are that defines their current performance not their reputation, frankly if carrick/fletch gets back to their best form next season I’m not interested in having either Schweinsteiger/De Rossi
sorry for the lengthy rant
if Schweinsteiger has been so exceptional with attacking talents around him like Robben/Ribery/Muller/T Koroos why did Bayern win only half of their games in bundesliga and are almost out of title race
if De Rossi has been so exceptional with attacking talents around him like Vucinic/Menez/Totti/Borriello how did Roma lost to shaktar D in such pathetic way in champions league and they are currently 6 th in that shit Italian league
I have posted this after seeing lot of fans asking for the signing of either Schweinsteiger or De Rossi
I just want to state that, the signing of a star mid doesnt guarantee anything and may or mayn’t improve our team instead better concentrate on moulding the talent we already have
Well written.
News…according to reports VIDIC MIGHT BE OUT OF THE MARSILLE TIE. That is sad. Although, I think Sir Alex will get Vidic ready for the game. It is a crucial game and we need him and I’m sure SAF realises that. Again, if you consider Smalling and Brown, they can do a job as well. But I don’t think Brown will play. If at all Vidic doesn’t start, I expect John O’Shea to partner Smalling in the center of defense. Also, we must get our formation right. ALSO IN YOUR formation, I think BERBATOV should start because he deserves to. According to me, this is United’s best formation:
http://kratik1987.blogspot.com/2011/03/uniteds-best-formation-play-rooney-in.html
Cheers
Kratik
I think Vidic will be up for it. The official website says so, which is way more reliable than the dailymail/sun.
kratik Malhotra
well written?
nice to see some one from same city as me putting up a quality posts on united in your site, would Love to link up for watching some games as most of my friends are not into footie
regarding vidic, Costas posted that he might be fit for the game , my predicted line up
evds – oshea, smalling, vidic, evra – rooney, carrick, scholes, Gibson, giggs – berbatov
putting up quality posts* – errors due to posting through my mobile
Vidic will play. He is ‘tough enough’. Maybe he is in Japan, in the rescue process. Or probably he is checking what is stronger. Cashley’s rifle or his stare.
@ancha true mate. Only negative of getting a mid is the hindrance it may cause to the youngsters’ development. Too many ifs and maybes. If carrick and fletch find their form back, we ain’t needing no one.
And no we don’t need a keeper. Van der sar will stay for ‘ONE MORE YEAR’!
kratik
read that post of yours regarding our best formation, I have to disagree to what you said that rooney played in scholes role for the arsenal game, scholes sits just infront of defense, where as rooney played in a more advanced position as an AMF just ahead of midfield duo of oshea/gibson, if rooney is to play in that position I don’t think we can setup with only one mid along with him, it will be defensively more robust if we have two mids playing behind him with two wingers and a striker upfront preferably chicharito in a 4-5-1/4-2-3-1
its sad that this leaves our top scorer out of the big games
we can see some of nani in the 2nd.i personally want to see owen.i am not worried about the match at all.we can pull off things with any possible formations..
telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8381943/Henry-Winter-however-abrasive-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-can-be-football-needs-Manchester-United-managers-qualities.html
I’m not able to see what he is trying to say, yet you can feel the disgust the writer is having in accepting that SAF is a national monument and modern football’s greatest manager/personality
@Ancha
what I meant by the Scholes’ position was the AMF position, a position that Scholescy has truely made his during his time at United. Now, he is used in a withdrawing role by SAF but for years he has played in the AMF postion
Did anyone hear about Nani contemplating a movie to Serie A? He wants to quit if United dont raise his salary close to Wayne Rooney’s
Morning all.
Not a bad start to the day. This was the first thing I read this morning: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3466736/Nani-Michael-Owen-Michael-Carrick-and-Owen-Hargreaves-are-back-in-training-with-Manchester-United.html
I would have been overjoyed had it been any other newspaper, but the fact that it is the Sun is making me skeptical.
@ancha…well said. We have so much potential all we need is patience from the fans. Some are crying out for Cleverly and Welbeck yet when they come will they support them through thick and thin? They want a new signing, and a marquee one at that but the imports are good for 2 years then off they go except for Ruud and now Berb. We shall get a lot of satisfaction when we are successful with our own models. We still rave about the class of 94 but we cant be patient enough to provide them with the right environment to be successful by supporting them.
When SAF says there is no value, it is not the money or anything other than quality.
Ferdinand should just retire from the national team after getting embarassed and humiliated
Morning everyone.
@dela
The Sun’s article isn’t inaccurate. Those were the news coming from the injury front yesterday. Nani and Carrick will be a real boost for us tonight. As for Hargo, I’ll believe it when I see it. He has to play a Reserves game first.
@smartalex
Thanks for the answer. It’s really just one guy’s opinion though. And I’ve actually been more kind to FIRST posters compared to others in here, lol. Imagine if I celebrated like that everytime I posted first back in the day (which happened quite often). I would have been the most hated guy on ROM. More hated than jojo.
Nothing should surprise us anymore. Nani should be grateful for being at OT in the first place, he should not forget how close he was getting kicked out of the club. He would have probably enede up playing for half what he is getting now. Anyway, if he wants to fuck off, let him fuck off. No one is greater than Manchester United!
Costas
what do you think about my earlier posts regarding our midfield and general opinion about how it might look next season
Chill, Xyth – i totally expect the Nani news to be nothing more than a stinking pile of shit dfreamt up by someone with a tough deadline and a boss with a tougher circulation target…
Costas and fellow RoM-ers, I got a terrible confession to make…
kk
its more down to SAF trusting them rather than fans support in case of transforming the talents like Cleverley and welbeck to first team regulars and stars, classic example would be the case of Darren Fletcher
jeet
what is your confession??
and also would like you to comment on my earlier posts on look of our midfield next season at 5:42 & 6:07 & 6:18
…in my abysmal ignorance, I nick-named my son (now 2 years old and possessing a mean left foot), Jojo
How can my son have a scouseloving twat for a namesake? I hope it doesnt give him a complex growing up!
Xyth
My god man do you believe everything the papaer tells you, idiot, it be nothing more then a made up load of rubbish by a scummy papaer who always link ur big names out the door once they become a clear threat to the rest.
If you believe everythink you’re told, then god you must be a empty shell of a person, completely clueless to the real world,. Nnani has already stated he is loving life at United and wants to win things here for many years to come.
Don’t believe everythink you read muppet.
only idiots believe the media
can you tell me how you feel about news on rooney few months back being so true
please don’t abuse people for their opinions, you can have your own opinion which may vary from others the better thing would be put forward your opinion rather than calling others muppets, stay calm
jeet and xyth
as some of them already mentioned it is getting really difficult how to assess these kind of news after the Rooney debacle, but I hope its just some journo trash
@jeet
Don’t worry about it mate. The name is never the problem. You know how many twats called “Costas” exist?
@ancha
Hi mate. I didn’t read all the comments. Thanks for pointing it out. I’ll read them and get back to you.
From what i had read, news of Rooney Wants Out were spread and leaked by his people themselves. So obviously the media got that right!
And the nani bit looks trash to me. He said that wants to win more trophies and emulate giggs and scholes.
Plus no one is bigger than Manchester United.
He he wants to leave, he can. He should remember the fact that he was halfway to Portugal had it not been SAF’s TALK, that has lead to his current form.
From what i had read, news of Rooney Wants Out were spread and leaked by his people themselves. So obviously the media got that right!
And the nani bit looks trash to me. He he wants to leave, he can. He should remember that he was halfway to Portugal had it not been SAF’s TALK, that has lead to his current form.
stat attack:
Best mins per goal in PL history (minimum 10 goals):
Player Games Played Goals Minutes/Goal
Javier Hernández 20 10 96.2
Thierry Henry 254 174 121.95
Fernando Torres 106 65 126.2
Ruud van Nistelrooy 150 95 128.19
Ivan Klasnic 40 11 128.64
Hernán Crespo 49 20 140.65
Daniel Sturridge 52 10 142.1
Alan Shearer 441 260 146.87
Uwe Rösler 70 29 148.93
Rafael van der Vaart 19 10 151.1
RR
As lovely as that stat is, I think it would be better measured from at least 50 goals, not 10.
RR
I think chicharito’s chances to goal conversion is also the best till now, hope he continues that kind of form, the best thing about him he knows that he has to still improve a lot like his first touch and general play and he is keen to learn and train hard, which signals that there is lot more to come from the little pea
@ancha
Just did. I agree with you more or less. I haven’t bought into these big name midfielders either. Particulary those that are 25 or more and have never played in the Premiership. Pirlo is another one that comes to mind. And I like him as a player. But who’s to say he can cut it at United where the game is more aggresive? Same goes for De Rossi. Schweisteiger’s case is a bit different. He performed well against England’s “finest” CMs last summer, but again, we are talking about a different ball game. Plus, I doubt Bayer would ever sell a player to us.
So yeah, I have to agree that we first have to look within the club. And by that, I mean Ando and Cleverley at first. They are more ready than Pogba and Tunni. I really feel that if Ando stays fit and gets through pre season, he will have a massive season. And hopefully if he elevates his game, he will influence Carrick and Fletch to do the same. And if Hargo is going to leave and Scholes is going to retire, we will definitely need another player there. Like I said recently, a bargain like Hernandez would be great.
The other issue that will have to be addressed in the summer is Gibson I feel. Either he gets offered a contract extension or he is sold.
Thanks, Costas!!
@Ancha: One of the things that come to my mind re: the buy vs make debate on Utd’s MF, is that it may not be a bad idea to get someone like a 30 yr old veteran who is proven across more than one league at the top level. He doesnt block the young ‘uns development, but someone who they can learn from on the pitch, and someone who can steady the ship for a couple of years. Sort of like a Mickey Owen for the midfield, only less injusry prone (hopefully). Someone like Raoul (I couldnt believe it when I saw the other day he has banged in 11 for Schalke already!). Terrible for business, but may not be the worst thing to do from a footballing pt. of view.
Costas
I am confident about scholes extending his contract, yet the important thing would be whether Gibson will be contract extension or he is sold, depending on that we may go for a new mid but as you said the signing should be of chicharito’s type, but frankly I don’t see it coming
Happy Match day Reds!
Costas, I’m glad that you weren’t infected by the First Flu!
Jeet, a rose by any other name is still a rose. Are we to stop loving Rafael or Fabio if we meet their namesake? Anyway, jojo is not the same as Jojo.
Ins and outs for tonight’s game
Antonio Valencia could make his first United start since September following the
winger ’ s successful cameo against Arsenal, while Michael Carrick , Nani and
Michael Owen could feature after all took part in full training on Monday . Rio
Ferdinand , Jonny Evans , Darren Fletcher , Anderson , Ji – sung Park and Owen
Hargreaves are still absent . Marseille are expected to be without three key
players as Lucho González ( ankle) , Mathieu Valbuena ( knee) and Hilton ( groin )
are all struggling with niggles – although André- Pierre Gignac could return for
L’ Ohème after missing the first leg .
source – http://www.manutd.com
jeet
we are talking about midfield mate not forwards, even I felt that going for some proven player who can give 1 or 2 quality years is perfect for our midfield but who matches that criteria currently is the major question
Aah, SmartAlex, you put my heart at ease…I’m bringing him up to be a proper red though, not much chance to go wrong there!
By the way, am I the only one who thinks it a bit quite on here today? We got a big European night ahead of us at OT, usually the place simply buzzes. I just hope we arent taking it for granted – cos make no mistake, its not going to be an easy one.
ancha
Didn’t know Valbuena was a doubt for them. If he’s out, that’s a big boost. He looked a handful when he came on in Marseille, and is exactly the kind of player likely to exploit the Hargreaves-shaped gap in front of our back 4.
Gignac is key for them in the French league, but I fancy Vidic to keep him quiet (let’s hope he starts).
Nobody’s guessed a team yet I don’t think… so here goes
VDS
Evra
Vidic
Smalling
Rafael
Nani (R)
Carrick
Scholes
Gibson
Rooney (L)
Berbatov
I’m off guys, have a nice match day, I will sign off with my predicated line up and score line
evds – oshea, smalling, vidic, evra – rooney/nani, carrick, scholes,Gibson,giggs – berbatov/rooney
score : 2-0
ancha – David Bekham!! Just messing, mate – I know, cant think of two many 30 yr old playmakers
the only good thing about injuries to fletch/andersen is Gibson gets a proper run of games, this has to be the time he should step up as he won’t get such opportunities easily at united
If we had a fit full squad, it would have been easier for me to predict the line up. But it’s tough to say if Nani and Valencia are ready to go for 90 minutes. So I will predict this, knowing that there’s not a chance in hell I’ll get it right:
VDS – Rafael, Smalling, Vidic, Evra – Gibson, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs – Rooney, Hernandez
I chose Rafa over O’Shea because without a natural right winger, Rafa can make more forward runs. Of course, Rooney can also move on the right making it a 4-5-1 if need be. As for the centre forward, I can’t see Berb starting as much as I like him.
But in all likelyhood, we will probably see either Nani or Tony V starting. Probably the former.
@smartalex
Morning mate. Nope. No chance of that.
Costas, what’s ur prediction?
My preferred (not predicted) line up:
VDS
JOS Vida Smalling Evra
Scholes Carrick
Rafa Rooney Nani
Chicha
Tony V subs Rafa and Giggsy subs Nani. Once we are 2-0 up, Gibson subs Chicha
Predicted:
VDS
JOS Vida Smalling Evra
Tony V Scholes Carrick Gibson Fabio/Giggs
Rooney
Ahh Costas, our posts crossed in cyberspace
My prediction:
VDS
Rafael-Smalling-Vidic-Evra
Scholes-Carrick
Valencia-Rooney-Giggs
Berba
Nani on for Valencia at half time as neither as ready for a full game. Gibson and Chicha to come off the bench too
Later this evening, after the match, so many posts are flying in that it’s hard to keep a track of everything being said.
Post ROMatic Stress Disorder.
Berba’s Grandpa
I don’t see why Nani, if he’s available, wouldn’t be able to play the 90. It wasn’t a muscle, tendon or ligament wound. The only reason he might be held back is if the wound hasn’t healed fully, thus risking infection. I wouldn’t have thought his match fitness would wear off in 2 weeks.
I agree that Valencia may not last the full match though.
ex manutd . com:
‘Marseille boss Deschamps was among the crowd at Old Trafford on Saturday to see United knock Arsenal out of the FA Cup – no doubt on a spying mission to prepare his side for Tuesday’s European clash, though he won’t have learned too much from Sir Alex’s much-changed side.’
@ kanchelskis
Good point. He probably could play the whole game, but since Valencia needs just a chunk of the match, and the left wing is looking okay with the possibility of Giggs, Fabio and (although I’m against it) Rooney, there’s no point risking him soon after such a quick return from what was a horrific injury imo
Berba’s Grandpa
Yeh, I doubt we’ll see both him and Valencia on the pitch at any one time. Last season, a few times Fergie started Nani then brought on Valencia on around 60/65 mins, and his raw pace really troubled tired left-backs. Not sure who’ll be at LB tonight for them – I know Heinze’s moving into the centre – but I’d like to see that trick repeated again, especially as Valencia is also a great out-ball when you’re defending a lead (see Arsenal). He just gets it, keeps his head up, and carries it 30/40 yards, taking the pressure off the defence.
Re. Heinze’s lack of pace… an argument for starting Hernandez, perhaps?
@kanchelskis
Yeah, playing Nani and Valencia the opposite way round, with Nani starting, would also be a good shout. I’d think it a very good decision either way, and whichever way round Sir Alex plays it I’m sure that’s the correct one. Hernandez would certainly give him hell, but with Berba such a confidence player I worry about his form taking a knock if he spends too much time on the bench. Plus he’s fresh from the weekend and Hernandez would be super-effective against a Heinze who’s been worn down by trying to keep up with a fresh Berba and his staggering technique and touch all game
Berba’s Grandpa
Yep, I’m pretty sure we’ll see Berba start, given his lack of recent action. Big games like this call for experience on the field from the get-go. Chico definitely on the bench, I feel.
Important to point out, that Heinze will be playing at center half. He isn’t the quickest, so that could play into our hands.
If the issue with Nani is true then this is Manchester United’s own doing if they had not given into Rooney’s demands then maybe Nani would not be asking for a pay increase right now. I don’t blame Nani because he has been playing better than Rooney has and is on less than half of what Rooney is getting. What is even more shocking is that Berbatov was being paid £100,000 a week when he was not producing the goods until this season. Players like Fletcher, Gibson, Evans and Carrick will take whatever deal they are given and not kick up a fuss not because they are loyal but because 1 they are not playing that great and 2 no other big club is going to be chasing after them and pay them any where near the amount they are getting now. Nani is not the only player who can kick up a fuss about pay either we have Hernandez, Fabio, Rafael and Smalling who in few years if they do reach their potential will want to be getting really good wages and if they do become as good as I think they can be if we don’t match them some other big club will. On the other hand we have the FIFA fair play rules that will hopefully force all clubs to lower their wages.
willie- Hey pal. Yeah Heinze at center half will allow us to rip them to shreds if we play Chicharito. His pace will rip Heinze a new one.
Costa- Yeah well I used to get first posts a lot too and not say a word. Like you said, it’s one thing to type a comment out and then say you were first, that’s alright. But if you’re gonna just say “FIRST” and fuck off, you’re nothing more than an idiot. Also, I’m gonna start getting first to every post come April 1st and my exams are done lol.
jay- I think the story about Nani is complete bollocks.
Jay – While I agree Nani has played better than Rooney this season, what about other seasons? I don’t think United give Rooney a pay rise, because how he was playing this season, but his over all contribution to United since he signed. Nani has been the dogs bollox, but he only signed a new deal last year. If he was to continue in the same form next year, then the club, I’m sure, will look at giving him a better contract. We don’t even know yet, if It’s true, so lets hold off, until we know more mate.
I am pretty sure Berbatov will score tonight. I have that Berb feeling
theboogeyman – Ok pal? I don’t think the little pea will start tonight. The boss will probably go with his experience, for this one.
@boogeyman
Haha, I’d love to see that. Ruin the first post for them.
Oh and good luck with your exams.
we should sing the da silva song tonight!!!
Here you go. End of the story
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/894403/man-utd's-nani-denies-reports-of-interest-in-italy-move?cc=5901
Nani tweeted he has no interest in a move