One of our finest performances of last season was our 3-1 demolition of Arsenal at the Emirates, in the second leg of the European Cup semi-final. We were controlled defensively but were a live wire when going forward.
There are so many comparisons we can draw between that game and the one we witnessed today. Obviously our opponent, the location and the scoreline, but also the less obvious. Arsenal’s only goal last season came from a wrongly awarded penalty and today their only goal came from a deflection, that had been heading straight to Van der Sar. The best goal of our season came against Arsenal, whereby it took us just 9.2 seconds to get the ball from the edge of our penalty area, following an Arsenal corner, to the back of their net. Today, we scored another brilliant goal in counter-attacking fashion and according to the analysis on Sky Sports, also took just 9.2 seconds to get from the edge of our box to the back of their net. Like it was the Portuguese winger Ronaldo who was Man of the Match last season, it was the Portuguese winger Nani who claimed that accolade today.
Any differences? Well for one, whilst we were brilliant in that game last season, we were absolutely sublime today.
Arsenal’s first shot on target came after 57 minutes, with a tame attempt from Cesc Fabregas which Edwin collected easily. That’s not because United had been playing a defensive game, we were already 3-0 up, but our midfield had bossed the game and our defenders had kept them out. Bear in mind, we’re still without our first choice two central defenders, Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, but our third and fourth choice performed admirably.
Before scoring, Nani got away down the right to deliver a great ball in the box, but it was cleared for a corner. From the resulting corner, Arsenal almost headed in to their own net, but it was cleared off the line. Nani then pulled a shot wide of the post from six yards out after Rafael played him in.
Nani opened the deadlock for us, although the goal has been credited as an Almunia own goal. An audacious bit of skill, which saw him flick the ball between Gael Clichy, who couldn’t handle him all day, and Nasri, before dinking it past Denilson (who had claimed this morning that they were men now, not little boys) and lifting it for a cross. The ball was heading to Ji-Sung Park to tap in unmarked at the back post, before Almunia palmed it in to his own net. Nani wheeled away, clearly ecstatic, and for all his skill involved it’s a shame it isn’t rewarded with the goal to his name.
United continued to dominate and five minutes later were 2-0 up, with man of the moment, Wayne Rooney, finding the back of the net. Rosicky took a short corner for Arsenal, before Park got the ball away to Rooney outside our box. He played a brilliant ball to Nani who had all the space in the world. He sprinted away from our half deep in to Arsenal’s, before playing the perfect pass to Wayne Rooney to finish with his first touch. This was counter attacking football at it’s finest and Arsenal had no ideas how to stop us.
Whilst their players were disappointing, you have to wonder what their manager was thinking. I think today was a better performance than the European game, but they weren’t too dissimilar, so why hadn’t Wenger worked out what they were going to have to do stop us? Surely he isn’t naive enough to think we were incapable of pulling out such a performance without Cristiano Ronaldo (even though I imagine the vast majority of Arsenal fans would, given the things they had to say on here before kick off. Chortle!) so why hadn’t he put something in to stop our brilliant counter attacking. It was Kieran Gibbs who got turned inside out at left-back last season, but what excuse has Gael Clichy got? I thought he was supposed to be better than Patrice Evra!
It was important for us to go in 2-0 up at half time and we managed that, despite Arsenal seeing a bit of the ball on the edge of our box in the minutes leading up to the whistle.
Three minutes after the restart it was heart in mouth time, with Wayne Rooney on the deck after being caught in the knee by the studs of Sagna. After hobbling off, he came back on a minute later and looked able to jog it off.
The third goal against started with an Arsenal attack, with Evra booting the ball out of our box in the direction of Park. Carrick played a one two with Rooney, who then gave the ball to Park. He ran away with it and as he approached the area I’m sure I wasn’t alone in screaming for him to pass the ball. No offence, but Rooney and Nani were in great positions and I fancied them to score. But credit where it’s due to Park, who slotted it away nicely. 3-0 up after 52 minutes.
United looked far more likely to score a fourth than Arsenal did to score at all, with Rooney pulling his shot inches wide of the post after skipping past the sub Eboue. But with ten minutes to go, an acrobatic effort from Vermaelen received a cruel deflection to take it away from Van der Sar.
United still continued to throw players forward though, with Almunia’s blushes being saved by Vermaelen, who got a toe in to stop Nani when one on one with the keeper who had given the ball away then in injury time, Berbatov couldn’t got a shot away but the ball fell nicely for Rooney in the box, but somehow he managed to shoot wide.
I ruled Arsenal out of the title race at the start of the season, long before their embarrassing 3-0 defeat at home to Chelsea. Whilst they play great football on their day, they simply do not have the consistency or the squad to compete with the best. They were poor today, and I know they’re missing the likes of Robin van Persie and Eduardo, but we were missing players too. Difference is, we have players of the quality of Brown and Evans to fill in, whereas Arsenal’s replacements wouldn’t get close to the United squad. We were pretty poor when we faced them at home, yet we still managed a 2-1 win. That’s why we’re Champions, I guess.
In our last game at the Emirates we were really stretched at times, having to pay a lot of attention to our defensive game as well as our attack. Today though, we came for them time and again, even when we could have sat back and settled. We were hungry for it, playing our attacking football and always searching for another goal. Ferguson got it spot on and today is just another example, in a long line, to show him as the best manager around.
He also has to get the credit for the brilliant man management of Nani, who played a blinder today, following several good performances since returning from “injury”. After the Hull game, I noted how much better Nani is on the right and the problems that creates with Valencia. He again played a blinder on the right and forced Valencia, who didn’t start against City, on to the bench. Fergie won’t want to drop Nani now, with him starting three games in a row for in the first time in two years, and it clearly is doing him good.
This was a great performance and a great result for United. We’re now four points ahead of Arsenal, on equal games, and a point behind Chelsea having played a game more. We’re hitting top form, as we usually do in the second half of the season, and our players are returning from injury.
We’ve still got 14 games to play and a maximum of 42 points to play for. But we really look to have come to the turning point of our season and the emphatic performance and important three points today have made that all the more concrete.
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Fucking class – Carrick, Flecther, Scholes ran the show! Nani brilliant, Rooney different gravy again!
3-1 in their own manor, what a fucking result! Get in lads!
Great day at the Chubb club today!
Arsenal fans can moan all they like about their own team not performing. It’s up to us to punish them, which Everton and Bolton both failed to do.
4-5-1 away from home? Ah, why not.
as for Denilson , little boys think to themselves “hmmm could rooney be running behind me”just before he runs the lenght of the pitch to score a second goal.
and as for taughts
when United win there 19th title this season I think we can all look back to Sir Alex during the first half of this match with his taught ” i wonder what would happen if i switched scholes and carrick”
What an Excellent day yesterday was
first federer beats murray and then united beat arsenal.dosent get any better
This is the first time we have won with Brown and Evans in defence. The past games they’ve partnered in, we have lost twice and drew once. It’s great to see that this fourth choice defence is gelling together because I can’t see Vida playing against Portsmouth, reckon he will be rested for Villa whom I want us to thrash too. Still can’t get over that loss, I hope we are at the top of our game against them.
Don’t gloat, why don’t you ? Arsenal were not at the races today, fair enough, but we made you lot look world class, which you no longer are, as you are too reliant on Shrek. You were gifted it today, Xmas come early.
Arsenal got taught a footballing lesson today. Where are all the arsenal fans that were chatting shit when they were at the top? It’s so easy at the emirates!
One major injury to Shrek, and you will be finished.
AIG where is your home base mate? It is still the day of the event in England. Your right though, great day spanking Arsenal in their own back yard! The Pedo didnt look happy did he?
I wonder if he thought that was anti football today? We outplayed, out classed, out scored! all in all we fucking battered them!
The best performance of the season. Hopefully this is the beginning of a great run that will bring us the double again.
The only regret from today is that we did not put 5 or 6 past them. How embarrassed those clever dicks in media, ex Arsenal players in particular, must be. They were all bragging shamelessly in media how Arsenal were better than us. [Alan YSB Hansen, eat your heart out].
I think Rafael deserves lots of credit and praise too, he was just phenomenal today. Maybe it’s just me, but him and Park seem to play their best against arsenal only for some reason.
Ronney do us a favour and fuck off, all you silly cunts said that about Ronaldo and we are still here!
The first goal by Nani was a fluke. He has been otherwise shit all season.
Fuck off Giggs11 you tosser. You are a bunch of chequebook wankers.
Just a different class today!!!!
Think last April’s dismantling in the Champions League semi was more emphatic, but let’s not split hairs.This 4-5-1 lark seems a jolly jape, what ?
Curious that supporters, home and away, were allowed to remain standing without steward interference for the entire game, but those Gooners desperately trying to provoke a reaction at 0-3 by shouting “Argentina” were immediately ejected from the ground.
All that money spent, and you’ve only got one good player.
Classless bunch of fans as well.
I enjoy the banter here and have to say Utd were outstanding today despite our obvious shortcomings. Not only (as all arsenal fans know already) are we short a few players but I agree with you Scott in that wenger failed to learn anything from the CL game last year….arrogance or stubborness? Though Vermaelen Gallas fabregas and to a certain point arshavin did ok. Rooney was outstanding again and nani will get the headlines. Almunia and Denilson= shocking.
@ Ronney, can we please play you every week? Please? Because it’s so fun seeing you crumble against the champions. And we are not too reliant on Rooney, for your own information Nani was the reason why we won today. Ripped your team to s h r e d s. So you lot made us look world class last season too in both of the semi final legs? Then why didn’t you beat us at home this season? What excuse do you have for that heh?
Hahaha so you are a peadophile as well Ronney! Quality mate, how long since a title mate? Keep reading this site pal as its the closest you fucking fairies will come to seeing the premiership title you fucking muppet.
What score was the semi last year? 6 points this year you clown!
Brilliant. Beating that lot is always extra special given their managers penchant for the ridiculous statement. Rooney in this form is unplayable and nani has really grown in confidence these past few matches.
All this without several key players.
Ronney one player and all that money? Well if your title rivals then I would say it was money well spent! Your team got showed up for the second time in your own manor you soft cunt!
Sorry Gerry the gooner as you talk sense, apologies mate!
@ Ronney, fuck off you bitter saddo. Crying is the better solution to your anger and frustration, so do me a favour and go weep instead of coming onto a Utd blog. Don’t give me that “You’ve only got one good player” shit. You dream of having a Evra, a Fletcher, a Rafael don’t you, you bastard. Score a similar goal to that on Nani’s one today and then talk. Meanwhile shut your fucking shit filled gob.
Ronney, you’re boring. Fuck off.
@aig:thanks…was really unlucky to miss this match…
As a gooner id just like to say that I wish we had your mentallity when it comes to performing when you need a big performance, because 9/10 times thats what you get from Utd, so fair play, as today shows we aint learned a damn thing, but hats off to you I wish we had some of what you have. Oh and Wayne Rooney.LOL
Have to say Well Done to United today. Excellent performance, compared to a tame attempt from Arsenal. We are not good enough. Maybe next season. But got how long must i keep trying that rhetoric…
Fair play United. Worth their money. Quite honestly prefer Red Manchester to win than Chelski.
Oz.
As a Gooner, I would have thought that if anyone should be embarrassed by today’s result, it should be Ferguson. If he was serious about Arsenal winning at Chavscum (as opposed to simply kicking sand in Wenger’s face) then the “title race” is over. Sadly, this was always likely to decide the runners up spot, rather than the winners.
I have no complaints about the result – merely relief. The result was inevitable – I predicted 3 – 1 on the premier league “i know the score” game – the only surprise was the 1. I don’t think United were that good – I just thought we were dire. Not sour grapes – just saying what I saw. It was all summed up when Nani failed to score after that idiot between the sticks (I refuse to call him our “‘keeper”, fed the ball straight to Nani, 12 yards out. Only he will know how he missed from there.
I would rather you lot won it than Chavscum bought it again – but I have my doubts. Roy Keane was there today, by the way, cheering you on.
Your rivals next season will be Citeh and Chavscum – unless there are any more sugar daddies out there waiting to pour their (or stolen) money into a club.
We have gone from The Invincibles to The Indifferents.
One other thing – it is funny to see the same mix of salient and moronic as appears on our blogs and messageboards. I guess football fans are the same, on a cross – section basis, whereever you go… LOL
Good all round performance today, although a little nervy in the last 10 mins.
But its got to be said, Nani, when he plays like that brings the best out of Rooney.
Rooney has improved so much since Nani has been back in team (very ronaldoish today) – Like a new signing.
Quote of the day from fergie:
“I hope when Arsenal go to Stamford Bridge that they BATTER them!!!”
That would be nice!!!!
LOL Ronney you’re funny. You say we depend too much on Rooney? I have one name for you: Cesc Fabregas.
Whatever you say isn’t going to break our morale anyway, we beat you convincingly. Take a clue from Gerry Gooner, that’s what’s called losing with grace.
Lets all laugh at Ronney!! ha ha ha. Men v boys son, men v boys.
Arsenal fans you are giving the Chav’s FAR too much credit. Come the end of Feb United will be top of the league. Infact come the end of next week United will be top. Chelsea aren’t in the same league as United.
It’s doubly a good result for us actually. Arsenal will not want to lose 2 straight games against United and Chelsea and will be pumped for the rent boys.
when it comes to ronny i would be painting every arsenal fan with his brush, arsenal fans usually come across as respectful and smart fans, but every team has its twats.
motd just really summed up the difference united attacted as a team and defended as a team were arsenal attacked like a team and defended in a mess
Fair play to some of the gooners on here. Gerry always talks sense. Wonder what “arsene wenger” has to say? Not the real one.
The way Rooney was running at full pelt then to break his stride to hit the ball at the right time was superb. Great performance. Is that 6 unbeaten in league now? Wigan, Brum, Hull away, Burnley, Hull at home, Arsenal.
@Che- I agree- wouldn’t have fancied us against Chelsea had we got something out of the game today- given the fact that we now need a pick me up we might take a point off them- no more.
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you make a good point actually. Many Gooners are indeed sensible people with whom you can actually have an interesting conversation about football, unlike most of the dippers or bitters I know. That’s why even though I feel good when we beat Arsenal, I’ld rather see them win anything than City or Liverpool.
Gonna go but I will add one more thing.
Chavscum CANNOT buy respect, or class. The Beatles weren’t wrong – they ain’t gonna buy much love, either. (Well, unless Ashley buys the sort of love that his Mrs may not want to know about). Terry and Cole epitomise what they are about… consumate scumbags.
I give them no credit. I think that Citeh are only slightly higher in the microbiotic food chain, but that is merely resultant of where the money comes from – any team who relies on Adebuywhore gets what is coming to them – as we found to our cost. I am not giving them credit, merely saying that I think that their beligerence will be the deciding factor. Arsenal will lose next week… you are more likely to see Hull take points off them. Not knee jerk pessimism, just fact. If we lost two straight games as we did in 2004, this is a no – brainer.
The rentboys were absolute trash against Burnley. If arsenal have a real go at them and harrass them then they may well beat them. Actually, if they performed the way they did today us against the rentboys then they might even get a decent result. The only reason chelsea are top of the league is because of our previous bad run of form, injuries to both us and arsenal and stupid refereeing, as we all know.
Can I just point out, that I really thought Jonny Evans was quite superb in defense today – he had the odd slip ups which you expect off young defenders, but over all I think he was great, and I was particularly impressed with his anticipation of situations where he could win the ball and break out for us.
I got to laugh at paul mersons pridictions he said arsenal 3 1 united. add charlie nicolson said arsenal would be too good for united.
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,15205_5893400,00.html
and watching MOTD I was in stitches and it puts into perspective on how bad arsenals defending was especially when they are so bad stoping teams like united hit them on the counter atttack. it was like watching a bunch of drunken sailers behind a wheel of a ferrari. when you cross arsenals current team with defending as a team its like adding fire to a gas station it will end in disaster
even our manager is backing arsenal next week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgXeTgUb96o
Learnt nothing from last year. In 30 years,I cannot remember home performances against United that were as poor and as uncompetitive as these last 2. United- you played well and are a good side-but make the most of it-we made you look world beaters.
Christ, the days of Ljungberg, Bergkamp, Henry and Vieira seem a long time past. Humiliated yet again by you lot, proving nothing was learned from the last drubbing you gave us.
Got to respect Wenger for sticking to his philosophy of bringing the kids up through the ranks, rather than getting the cheque book out, but we look so shallow because of it. A decent keeper, a replacement for Denilson, and another quality striker and we will be in with a shout.
You have a seriously ugly player in Roony, but fuck me, he is good, and Scholes? One of my favourite players of all time.
Oh, and you lot are a bunch of bastards
Brilliant today. That’s all there is to it. Nani was quality on the right. Fletch gave Scholesy and Carrick the space to run into. Rooney is unplayable. Arsenal are boring, getting the ball on the edge of the box before passing 80 times is not “great football” it’s fucking predictable and boring. If Arshavin wasn’t an overhyped greedy cunt it might have been different.
That’s alright Wenger that lesson was free.
Huge win in our biggest game of the season.
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goonergerry – I got to ask but what the hell is up with arsenals inability to defend as a team when teams hit arsenal on the counter, we saw everton do it and arsenals defending that day to defend the counter was worse than today, and for arsenal to conciede the exact duplicate counter attacking goals united produced in april and today is a complete joke. but arsenal arb the worst side to try and defend the counter attack. but the way rooney and nani played most teams would have looked poor.
We were awesome today. Nani had a blinder and Rooney’s goal was reminiscent of Ronaldo’s counter attacking 3rd goal in the semi-final 2nd leg, which shows we are still the masters of counter attacking football. Majestic performance – Rooney is the dogs bollox – 1st Premiership goal and 100th Premiership goal against Arsenal. Martin Tyler: ‘Manchester United are simply ripping Arsenal to shreds!’. Great comment.
It’s nice to see some sensible Arsenal fans on here giving honest opinions without wearing rose tinted specs.
I was a bit worried about the Arsenal game at the start of the week.
But after watching the Milk Cup semi final against shitty I thought anything was possible. I just can’t understand Arsenal though. After losing to The Rentboyz they have found some real consistency and then it all seemed to just fall down against United.
SAF employed the same tactics as last season stifling Arsenal of space and time, and then using the counter attack. I don’t understand why Wenger didn’t do something about this.
Anyhow 4-3-3 seems to be the formation SAF is now employing which does not have space for Berbatov in it. As I always have said. He maybe class. But he doesn’t fit in to the United way of playing. SAF tried 4-4-2 and the counter attack did not work as Berbatov slowed the game down too much. He would be better suited to the United team in the 90′s where build up play was slower.
In the last couple of games the formation has worked really well, as the midfielders have gone forward ahead of the ball to help out the forwards, this has to be a direct result of the defence coming back to near full streangth.. confidence must be sky hig with the lads now, I feel we can go more forward from this position – regardless of what they say in public, chelsea will be worried by us now
Nani is a better team player now. He is a lot less selfish and plays the early cross now and again instead of showing off.
@Tony Starks
The only issue with 4-3-3 I thought was a problem was the midfield 3 not contributing enough gals the last 2 years with an over reliance on Tevez, Rooney, and Ronaldo scoring the goals.
Perhaps the corner has been turned a little now with Scholes and Fletcher contributing against City.
As long as Rooney gets support 4-3-3 works. Otherwise he drops too deep.
alpha_rs – you serious uniteds attack in the 90s was slower build than today. did you watch united back then and how old are you because united sides of 94 96 99 they were possibly the most devestating attacking sides and counter attacking sides under ferguson. united never played slow build up in the 90s it was 3 passes BOOM BOOM and they would be hitting sides for pace.
schmecheal neville irwin keane ince scholes butt kanchelskis sharp giggs cantona hughes cole yorke solkjaer sheringham had no time for slow build up play, uniteds style of the 90s was cut and thrust it had no plan B it was attack attack attack. fergie said he changed uniteds style because it was getting to exposed. the 96/97 outfit all it did was attack and defend poorly.
WHERE HAS NANI BEEN HAS BEEN TAKEN TO THE OUTER LIMITS AND BEEN GIVEN MAGICAL POWERS UNBELIEVABLE PERFORMANCE
that ronney guy…….fucking hilarious,i hope he comes on here more.
The Valencia-issue is quite a strange one. Thought he’d be first choice for the rest of the season the way he was performing, then Nani comes from nowhere and tops him. He’s done too good to be left out of the side though, you guys think Nani should be tried out on the left again? His good form can’t all be down to his switch to the right, can it? He’s more versatile than Valencia and should, due to his recent performances, be confident playing left, right and even up top, while Valencia’s kind of one-sided in his right-wing game.
any link to MOTD? plssssssssss
bbc website pal.
@rooney the new king
Sorry pal. Probably should explain myself better there.
I am 27. I think the team of the 90′s had more time on the ball.
Which was why Cantona had the time to collect the ball and work his magic.
True say about Giggs and Kanchelskis were fast and pacey but I think we differ in opinions about the counter attacking play. I think todays counter attaking play is quicker than the 90′s team. Debatable I think.
@SteniS.. I do beleive Nani can do a good job on the left in this formation, but he’s not as comfortable so will make more mistakes, he’s a confidence player – he won’t perform well if fans are on his back – It’s tough on Valencia but Nani has earned the right to start, did you see how scared the defenders were of Nani and Rooney – thats what got Park the third goal…
I can only imagine how good counter attack would be with someone like Mata or Di Maria on the left, alongside Rooney and Nani… not sure about the defensive side though! Anyway we can dream…
Sir Fergie said Valencia can also play in the middle. Can you imagine Valncia running down the middle at at central defenders!
Finally the lightening quick counterattacks are back – I really missed them and thought they went with Ronaldo. Thanks Nani!
The revival of Nani is testament to Fergie as a man manager. I thought Nani was on his way out for making those comments about Fergie earlier this season, then not playing for a couple of months. What the hell did I know
I also think that training camp in Quatar has worked wonders – as a kickoff for the 19th! Similar to the trip to Tokyo last year.
I also think United responds very well to negative pundits. When will the ABUs ever learn?
@ Ronney
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Brilliant. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. What a Joker. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. More More. Sour Grapes. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
Occasional visiting gooner to this site. Well done to your lot today, good improv (slightly jammy finish!) and skill from Nani for the first one (Every time i watch him he’s pony except when he plays us..sigh!), and then a very controlled and proffessional absorb and counter performance thereafter. Fergie got his tactics spot on, and was helped out by the fact that in order to match your 2 missing centre-halves, we managed to miss 3 strikers. Perhaps RVPs skill or eduardo’s movement might have converted some of our possession into shots on target, but that said, evans is looking a real player.
Whoever was laughing at Denilson’s comments in the paper is entirely justified. I read them with dread this morning, as he’s been comfortably our worst regular player this season, and again managed to somehow be at fault for all 3 utd goals, matched only by the clearly unfit clichy, who despite always doing ok against Ronaldo had a new orifice torn for him by Nani today, and his allowing Park to run in straight line to score was absurdist farce at its best. A real disappointment for us in N london considering how unlucky we were to lose at your place. Ah well, lets home we somehow blag a result against the chavs next week to keep the title interesting…
He plays on the left
He’s best on the right
That boy Nani
Made Arsenal look shite
in fairness to arsenal fans, i remember em comin on this site after the semi last year and havin a bit of class about it then. I thought it was a great game to watch, always seemed to be somethin happenin and at an excitin pace. United arsenal games are always like that which is why they generate more interest than any other game. If they took one of their early chances then it could of been different, but then our midfield took over and deserved what we got. @ ronney, there’s always one twat, ur probably a spurs fan tryin to make arsenal fans look bad
alpha_rs – no I totaly disagree the premiership back then was more harder and difficult than today. do not underestimate the movement cantona had or the pace he had. I can remember loads and the time on the ball was no different. I dont think united are has devestating going forward today than back then. the reason why you may think united have more time on the ball back then is united domminated possesion in the big games more back then because they had afr better players than in most games than today.
Dont forget united in CM had keane scholes butt ince in different eras to choose from add the wide players of kanchelskis beckham giggs sharpe teams were never going to challenge united much unted did win 9 0 and 8 1 so it showed how domminant united were how they were picking the small teams apart, these players united had in midfield were men and they were almost impossible to try and win the midfield battle against because they were that damn good, berbatov does not fit into any united team and he certaintly would not fit into the classic 90s united sides.
me saying how old you were was not an insult but it sounded like you were a young united fan to say the uniteds build up was slow in the 90s than now when 90s style united only played one way quick sharpe fast and counter attacking football especially 94 and 99.
kudos to the Arsenal fans who are prepared for a proper convo, rather than idiotioc statements ala Ronney!!
The fact is Fergie got his tactics spot on today, arsenal thought we were there for the taking andtime after time committed too many men forward and we gave it to em where it hurts!
Nevertheless we played a lot better and to be fair we did not allow Arsenal to play their game especially in the final third, where they can be deadly. scholes in a more attacking role has made a real difference in the last three games. TBH Arsenal were fortunate we did hit them for 5 or 6 cause we had the chance to completely humiliate them, never mind there is always next time.
On a positive note maybe Arsenal wont rollover like the mistress they are against Chelsea, because the last game game they played against them was shameful to say the least.
Ronney – aww its past your bed time the first goal was pure genius the second goal was identical to last april the third summed your lot total crap at defending. you could not even cause united problems without ferdinand and vidic. your defence is such a joke even everton could counter attack which shows why arsenal are also rans. when you have nothing to defend your team you use the cheque book excuse which shows you are making arsenal sound like a small club and its pethetic.
Spot on report Im afraid.
Our squad just isnt fit to compete with the likes of you or chavski right now
I love United!
Yeh but Ronney is good for a Laugh. We all need a good laugh in this depressing recession.
Hard luck to the Gooner fans tho. I’d sooner battle it out with a respectful team like Arsenal than Ch£lscum or $hitty.
Ronney :
Last two games against United, and the last two games against the chavs at your place = four slaughterings, not forgeting the hammering you got from Stoke in the cup last week!
I think i’d feel a little bitter myself.
By the time your lot get round to winning anything, you’ll need some WD40 to get the lid off the silver polish!
I have to say that Arsenal fans are usually the most sensible ones from our rivals. They usually come here and have a good convo after our games. Most of them anyway.
United’s undeniable class aside, I also couldn’t believe Wenger didn’t believe his lesson. I can’t remember the last time United scored two counter attacking goals like that in a game. It’s a shame for them, because they play very good football, but they are undone by this sort of stuff.
I still can’t believe the week Nani has had. It’s as if I went to a parallel universe!
Costas,
I agree, most Arsenal fans have been very gracious in defeat today, it’s just a shame that a twonk like Ronnie lets them down
ronnie seems to be a spurs fan….thats why he is trying to turn arsenals fans bad by his brainless comments…anyhow a great performance by utd to round of a very brilliant week……
keep up the gud work mates…….
I don’t think they could be anything but gracious, because it wasn’t even close!
I told ya….
….keep the fucking faith and stop bitching.
when they told Alec he couldn’t do it with KIDS who were they talking about? thats right, they were dismissing those same players rightly referred to these days as LEDGENDS. so you would of thought Alec had earned the trust of his own supporters by now when it comes to bringing in new youth ? Personally im excited when ANY new young players are introduced because knowing Alec, he’s just found a GEM. all the negativity surrounding under-performing players baffles the fuck outta me.
it was Nani this, Nani that, but how many VITAL goals has this lad contributed to over the last 3 games ? EVANS and RAPHAEL both gave mature performances today, and they can only get better with more experience. Carrick was class, Park finished like a number 9, but both are often fucked off by their own fans. We were class without really pushing into top gear today, it was great to be proven right and win back the money I lost on the Fulham Game. But it wasn’t all roses, seeing Berbatov control the ball with the finese of a 50 year old bricklayer when clear through on ball irritated the FUCK outta me. but even that was ok cos he’d only just come on, I still back him to finish the season strong just like the others are. And what could I possiby say about Rooney. Pure Class and Graft.
All we need now is Arsenal to get a result against Chelski
…preferably with a Terry own goal, hahahaha
Great write-up Scott the Red.
you mentioned a possible problem created by Nani’s form, I think its a great problem for us to have! imo Valencia is more suited to games where we need a more physical presence and direct line of attack. he def tracks back better than Nani, so when we need to defend a lead but still pose a threat he’s the perfect sub. Likewise when we need to play cautiously away from home in Europe Valencia should start with Nani as a sub attacking tired defenders. Alec lets everybody know they can and will be rotated, and going into the CL knockouts we’ve got much needed strength in depth… Just think we’ve still got Obertan coming through ! Bring on AC MILAN.
So is Nani’s resurgence due to him playing on the right again, or due to his refound fitness and confidence, or both? Or something else? Point is, I’d like to see him and Valencia on the field at the same time … imagine that power and pace and skill on both sides of the field! But of the two, Nani is the only one who can play on the left. I think we should try it against some lower team, like Portsmouth. See how it works.
Evra could also play as left wing. He almost does anyway. And it was his position before he went to left back (pre United).
Thought you might like this Scott.
http://arsenalfcblog.com/if-a-man-united-fan-can-see-it-why-cant-wenger/
Tough night to take for Arsenal fans – but well played United.
great win lads! although it’s unlikely we’ll see the wank-fest in the media today that is usually so gratuitously given to the chavs for their narrow wins.
c’mon you reds, stuff pompey this weekend! and while we’re at it, hope that the chavs and the arseboys have a massive blow up, leading to a points deduction for both teams. haha nani’s revival shows us that miracles do happen!
From Arsenal blog:
WE LOST!!!!!
WENGER OUT!!!!!!!! PLEASE LEAVE EMIRATES WENGER!!!!!!
5 years without trophyes!!!! i’ve had it!!!! hell will freaze faster then arsenal to win a trophy
bendtner is so clumsy… he can’t play…he is 4 a mid table club or even less
wenger sayd he will buy a striker, he lied, and now we lost… if we had david villa, chamakh or dzeko it could have been different.
next season we will be liverpool if things go on like this.
i want wenger out. i’m thinking of becoming a united or bayern fan, they atleast win trophyes.
i am (was) a big gunner fan… but arsenal dissapointed me too many times. i would like to watch my team hold a trophy, but arsenal is probably the wrong team.
i wish arsenal the best… and the best is better players… and wenger, bendtner, almunia OUT
@ Sunny – I believe you’re referring to rocknrolljesus1′s comments. He’s a bit of a joke really – not representative of 99% of the readers of that blog.
Surely you can tell that by the United/Bayern bit…
Aah…yesterday was one of those nights that make Monday mornings so much better (bar the hangover…LOL). Had a hilarious time winding up some Gunner mates.
Nani, Nani – where were you?!!! Scott – do you think SAF secretly reads this blog and came around to playing him on the right, which we had all been clamouring for?:)
Scholes was good, and so was Carrick – much more visible on the pitch than what he had been all season. Fletch was as Fletch is…exactly what we expected. Same for Rooney – to be honest, I am not his biggest fan, but now I can see what he brings, it is not often that your playmaker also ends being the top scorer. Rafael and Evans were absolutely fantastic, but I am not sure if the same can be said for Brown (anybody knows the dope on Vida???). Evra, by his high standards, seemed to be a bit off colour as well.
Now, the big thing – I just cant believe that Wenger in his arrogance/stupidity learns nothing at all!!! Arsenal, for all their talk about playing attacking football, just doesnt seem to have a PLAN B – ever! I cant believe it! Also, frankly, I find Fabregas somewhat overrated, a Fletch, Ando, Gattusso, etc. can easily handle him…you dont even need a Keano. Arshavin is class, but needs to be handled with care – he still has a lot to learn, and I am not sure if Wenger realizes that. Eduardo and Bendner are overrated. The rest were all a bunch of fightless jokers – Denilson, by far the biggest (maybe not Gallas, but I have one of those baseless hatreds for that arrogant big balls, no. 10 wearing centerback and cant bring myself around to saying anything positive about him).
Summary of rant:
1. SAF is God and we know fuckall….
2. This is what it feels to be City
3. Bring on Becks and the Italian mob!!
PS: Any fresh news on the British Bulldog? I find it equally hilarious and equally sad (particularly with the Team Bridge T-shirts). If England still believes he is the only “natural leader in the dressing room”, all I can say to your country is “Good Luck”!
Aah…yesterday was one of those nights that make Monday mornings so much better (bar the hangover…LOL). Had a hilarious time winding up some Gunner mates.
Nani, Nani – where were you?!!! Scott – do you think SAF secretly reads this blog and came around to playing him on the right, which we had all been clamouring for?:)
Scholes was good, and so was Carrick – much more visible on the pitch than what he had been all season. Fletch was as Fletch is…exactly what we expected. Same for Rooney – to be honest, I am not his biggest fan, but now I can see what he brings, it is not often that your playmaker also ends being the top scorer. Rafael and Evans were absolutely fantastic, but I am not sure if the same can be said for Brown (anybody knows the dope on Vida???). Evra, by his high standards, seemed to be a bit off colour as well.
Now, the big thing – I just cant believe that Wenger in his arrogance/stupidity learns nothing at all!!! Arsenal, for all their talk about playing attacking football, just doesnt seem to have a PLAN B – ever! I cant believe it! Also, frankly, I find Fabregas somewhat overrated, a Fletch, Ando, Gattusso, etc. can easily handle him…you dont even need a Keano. Arshavin is class, but needs to be handled with care – he still has a lot to learn, and I am not sure if Wenger realizes that. Eduardo and Bendner are overrated. The rest were all a bunch of fightless jokers – Denilson, by far the biggest (maybe not Gallas, but I have one of those baseless hatreds for that arrogant big balls, no. 10 wearing centerback and cant bring myself around to saying anything positive about him).
Summary of rant:
1. SAF is God and we know fuckall….
2. This is what it feels to be City
3. Bring on Becks and the Italian mob!!
PS: Any fresh news on the British Bulldog? I find it equally hilarious and equally sad (particularly with the Team Bridge T-shirts). If England still believes he is the only “natural leader in the dressing room”, all I can say to your country is “Good Luck”!
Oops..Scott, sorry for the duplicate comment, how does one get rid of it?
@Sunny and Andrew Weber yeah the line “i am (was) a big gunner fan” is enough to show he is not a real Arsenal supporter. If i hear that from a fellow United fan, I will rip him to shreds like Nani did to Arsenal yesterday.
Now i hope Anderson will learn from Nani; beat whoever there is above him in the pecking order to steal the place in the starting lineup. That is to beat Scholes, Carrick, Fletcher and Giggs. And i know you can do it Anderson!
On another note, I think Arsenal had a bucket of bad luck yesterday. But luck is part of a champion’s strength! hehe
End of the game, as the players were walking back, I thought I saw Rooney grimacing… is there any news on his injury?
I DO NOT want him injured.
Let me start by saying that I’ve said all season that Man U were nailed on for the title, so this result was far from surprising. But lets not kid ourselves, this is one of the poorest premier league seasons to date. As bad as we are, we’re still only four points behind you. And given the silly points you and the Chavs keep dropping, this is unlikely to change much. Remember that in 06-07 we did the double over you, but you finished 20 points ahead of us. As enjoyable as it is to beat one of your so called title rivals, keep in mind you only get three points for it, and the table is all that matters at the end of the day.
So after shipping 4 against City, 3 against the Chavs, and 3 against you lot, we’re still comfortably third, and mathematically (but obviously not realistically) in the title race. Doesn’t say much for the standard of the league, does it?
To all of you out there mentioning vermaeleen with vidic of last season FUCK OFF !!
vermaeleen only gets the better of mid-table strickers the likes of davies,zamora…….
Could I just join in the Rooney love in. As he ran towards the fans after scoring, he acknowledged Nani’s contribution extensively. It was really satisfying to see that. Although he knows he is a class player, he understands the importance of team mates. This is a mark of a true leader. This is something CR7 can never be.
Kind of reminds me of how King Eric always looks for the person (usually Giggs/Sharpe/Kanchelskis) who made his goal. Of course the exceptions were the chips and blockbuster against Seaman.
Different class… here we go boys, here we go!!!
@giggs11gerrard0
I live in India. 5.5 hrs ahead of UK time. Thats why i said yesterday
@Moneesh
Welcome mate
I just hope that Nani does not fail any drugs test soon. It looks like he was on something really potent for the last week or so..
Just kidding! Nani, keep this up lad! May God bless you !
And I think he already has judging by the quotes from Sir Alex…
Sir Alex the God, has finally spoken and showered his blessings on the man, now just watch him go!!
And for Heaven’s sake even Carrick seemed to be willing to pass the ball FORWARD yesterday, and he got his rewards with that beautiful assist for Park. Just remembering a similar pass along the ground for Ronaldo a couple of years ago at St.James Park. Creative genius i had said of that pass…I can say the same for yesterdays pass after a long time again!!
Keep it up lads, keep it up!
and thank you Gary Cook and Lolita Tevez for firing up my team…
Come on you Reds….Keep Getting Stuck in!!
I think Arsenal made it easy for your lot yesterday. Wenger’s tactics were woeful and the Arsenal players just didn’t show up, it was a pathetic Arsenal performance that won you the game. Don’t make the same mistake Chelsea made earlier this season and think that you’re the best thing since sliced bread or you’ll see yourselves dropping points like they did.
Whatever it is,beating a quality team like Arsenal is a great feeling.I was beaming with pride, looking at how we played yesterday.Wonderful stuff,and this was probably the best performance as a team, this season.I’m smiling in my sleep.
@Le Gooner
Arsenal performed badly. Yes they did but that must not take any credit away from United’s perofrmance. We were excellent and played as per our gameplan that you had no answer to.SAF is the last person who will allow the lads to take anything for granted. He has been there and done that, he knows the importance of not getting carried away, so he will tell the team to keep their feet on the ground and keep up the level of performance and get the results
Good morning everyone. Bet game of the season so far in terms of exitement, emotions and of course the result. It is not a good idea to single out some players but i will try to make some points about some of the players after having read some of the post match posts.
When i saw Nani in the first team i just thought it was so unfair to Valencia who was a very good aditition to the squad. I’d understood the reasons for that even before Nani’s heroics and the decision has to be considered the right one after the game had finished. It gives us 2 really good options on the right wing.
Brown dodgy in the first half ? I don’t think so. Give me one example where he didn’t handle the opposition well ? When the opposition of the Arshavin calibre runs at you what should you expect ? He did handle Arsenal well and we can see the reflection of that on the scoreline.
Scholes ? 35 or so ? I kept believing he still has it in him and i am really proud of the man. Legend! Thank god we still have him and injury free as well.
Rafael ? What a player! so determined! He was immense in the seconf half having to do it on his own in the last 15-20 minutes when Nani has gone out of steem.
We need Chelsea to drop points against Arsenal. We badly need it. Keeping fingers crossed for Hull on Tuesday as well.
Le Gooner,
Dont worry about us being ahead of ourselves, the game was great dont get me wrong. Beaing an inform side as you have been for a while is a great 3 pts.
We have had such a stop start season that we will just plug away and hopefully prove to a few doubters we are still here!
@Corea
hi mate.
arshavin tormented brown for ther first 20 mns or so but gradually wesley got more and more confident and dealt better with everything after that. Evans was immense as was fletcher who played in a more offensive role and worked his socks off as always.
I think that our 4-5-1 formation is properly working now. Hopefully now the lads will be able to beat pompey, AC Milan, astonn villa and everton.
Nani and rooney were brilliant. I also thought that carrick and evans played brilliant.
And of course the first time this season we managed to play a couple of consecutive good games. City and now Arsenal. Hull City ? Maybe. And we have Pompey to play in the next game.
Villa, Milan and Everton AWAY during a week could be decisive though.
AIG – hi mate. I just want you to be sure i really want you to watch the games in real time. There is no need to make stupid sacrifices, mate
Corea
i cant help but feel United know that i am not watching and hence decide to give a good performance.
Roma 7-1
Man City 3-1
Arsenal 3-1
All good performances. Surely it is not a co-incidence
aig alex is god –
“Surely it is not a co-incidence”
haha. thanks mate for making me smile but we need you in front of the TV Set during games. and don’t even try to argue! Argh!!!
Funny how the kiddy fiddler only mentions how bad his teams performance was and gives United absolutely no credit for a superb display of football…
Wenger, you’re a fucking sore loser and prat!
corea
ok mate. incidentally those are the only 3 important United games that i have missed in the last 3 years.
to our new signing number 17, please keep battering opponents!!! number 10 is world class but there’s still room for improvement particularly in finishing department despite 21 goals already!!! number 21 and 23 are terrific last night, very solid except some mistakes due to lacking experience… number 13, i think always played well although not very outstanding and very consistent… tribute to the midfield trio for dominating the pitch…
I think our 4-5-1 formation starting prove its effectiveness.
In Fergie I Trust…
Love United Hate Glazer…
afromanc Said,February 1st, 2010 @10:04 Funny how the kiddy fiddler only mentions how blah blah blah blah
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i didnt think your comment deserved the rest of my attention by saying such cack about a manager
Well done, in less than a year thats the second time you have humilated us at home, add Chelsea’s similar thrashings of us and it doesn’t look good at all.
@afromanc Clearly a resounding victory is not enough for you and it’s a shame that you can’t enjoy your well deserved win without resorting to the usual cliches about our manager. What do you expect him to say? He stated quite clearly that you were the much better side than us. Now watch Denilson ‘attempt’ to track Rooney for your second goal and tell me that he didn’t make it easy for you. Rooney was outstanding, as a team you played very well but that doesn’t change the fact that we were a disgrace.
aaah shame did i upset you…Thats too bad. Because I don’t give a fuck.
Never been so proud of my team. United have been written off time and time again even by some of our own fans so If wanna gloat and throw it in dirty arsenal followers faces then so be it. have a great day! I know i will…
You just can´t ask more of any player to perform when it matters.
This whole last week United have performed when it matters.
Well done guys and like SAF says. Let´s kick on from here….
Glory glory MAN UNITED Glory glory MAN UNITED
LUHG as well.
after watching Nani’s performance in the last 3 games, i wonder what has Sir Alex done to him? probably some kind of ‘brainwashing’ or science project…lol~ perhaps the same thing should be done to other long term inconsistent players (well you know who)… LUHG
@afromanc
your proud of united, thats grand but you think united fans are proud to be represented in a conversation with an arsenal fan by you when you start calling a respected man in football the second greatest manager in premiership history a kiddy fiddler.
How fucking clinical, how bloody deadly! Hitmen!!!!!!!
afromanc:
Please cut some slack, it gives United supporters a bad name coming out with comments like that.
Credit where it’s due, the vast majority of the Arsenal supporters have been very gracious in defeat, so a little humility in victory would be pleasant.
Also Arsene Wenger conceded United were the better side, so there is no need for the name calling.
Perhaps you are right, but it goes both ways. You think arsenal fans show SAF respect in the way you wish we would toward wenger, not a chance!! We live in a cruel world. and rubbing salt in the wounds of our enemies is part of the job. Sorry if I have offended you so so so much, your admiration for wenger is obviously important to you.
Also extremely happy for parkie, he took that goal like a master!
afromanc
Not offended at all, just saying, don’t give others any excuse to find fault ( mainly the dippers).
I find great pleasure in not saying anything much, whilst gloating inwardly.
Not a great fan of Wenger either, he huffs anf puffs without doing a great deal, and nothing much comes off his “brilliant youngsters”
P.S.
If we beat the dippers at OT, ignore these comments, and give them plenty!
@Knightsmith @GottaHateTinyTears
Nice to know that it is possible to have some kind of decent discussion with rival fans on these forums.
@afromanc
Yeah there are moron Arsenal fans who may come out with similar comments about Ferguson, but like I said they are morons. Every football club has it’s fair share of idiot supporters which is why it doesn’t always make it easy for me to identify with other Gooners. Shame really but that’s life.
Fair enough
Gooner77:
The one thing I like about Arsenal is their Unpredictability. In all honesty I would have more than settled for a draw yesterday.
Although Chelsae have had some good results against you recently, you have the ability to give them some back, and from a selfish point of view, I hope you do next Sunday.
P.S. I think you need another Malcolm McDonald!
Still have little confidence in Brown, if Arshavin could shoot or look up he could of had a hat trick yesterday.
Be interesting to see what he does with the formation now, it’s worked really well the last 2 games but I can’t see him consistently leaving Berbatov on the bench.
If we can keep this up for the next few games it should set us up well for a title, just got to keep it solid and now give away any stupid points. In the summer bring in a RB (Rafael is still too young / not a good enough defender, Brown is right sided Evra), a CM to replace Scholes, a left sided winger (Park occasionally does a job (like yesterday) but on the whole is no where near the level that we require) and a keeper.
A cheeky bid for Adam Johnson wouldn’t go a miss either, really do think he’d make it one of the top teams in the PL. City are a fucking joke though, the amount of players they are going to have for each position, how they expect to keep them all happy I don’t know.
@knightsmith
hahaha only a non Arsenal fan could like our unpredictability!!! One thing we were prior to George Graham was predictable. Actually I would argue that we are not unpredictable at all, if you look at all the big games we have played over the last few years they all have a depressing familiarity from our point of view. The bottom line being: We cannot win big games. The games we have beaten you in have always been before Xmas and not in the business end of the season, same with Chelsea. We have not beaten either you or Chelsea in a convincing manner in any of those games, they have all been tightly fought games where there has been a single goal in it.
If we have taken the lead against a big team in an important game we have been unable to defend or build upon our lead and eventually lost the game. All that sounds very predictable to me.
I know Ferguson hopes we batter Chelsea on Sunday but as football man and someone who knows how to beat us I’m sure he doesn’t expect us to get anything out of the game and neither do I.
* I meant prior to Wenger
Who was that bloke on the right wing? Where did he come from??
Oh and by the way, any Gooner who says that Rooney was not outstanding yesterday is totally delusional. Rooney was as dominant yesterday as Ronaldo has been for you in the past and Henry was for us. One moment summed it up for me, I think before any goals had been scored, Rooney charging down the left flank, cuts inside and could of played it square. Instead he unleashed a rocket of a shot that had Almunia scrambling like the pussy he is and was a statement of intent and a sign of what was to come. I don’t mind coming out and saying it but Rooney really was brilliant yesterday.
Gooner77
i must admit most of the gooners really are much more gracious in defeat(Like you)than the scumbags from Man City.Despite losing they just gloat about their money and how they can buy messi,rooney and all the top players. I think Arsenal have played well in August at Old Trafford and deserved a draw atleast from that game.I thought they would perform the same way yesterday but instead Wenger got his tactics completely despite knowing what to expect from United
Worst united team in 20 years people where saying a few months ago, well that wasn’t bad was it. I got the feeling arsenal underestimated us yesterday and boy did we make them pay. I was confident we wud beat arsenal but i never thought we wud destroy them in the fashion we did, every time we went forward, we looked like scoring. To any people still doubting that wayne rooney is’nt world class, will that performance shud end the doubts. @AIG have more faith told you we cud win mate
This comment on an Arsenal blog really made me laugh just now. If prefer Cadburys to Terry’s it might make you laugh too:
“No substitute for quality
A non-Arsenal fan pointed out to me this evening that the quality was telling between the substitutions made by both teams. While at 3-0 up United were able to bring on Valencia and Berbatov – 45million pounds of talent – and Giggs – man who has won the title more times than John Terry has paid for abortions, we could only muster Eboue, Walcott and Bendtner. Players that would struggle to strike fear into the hearts into the opposition if they were an under 7 girls team.”
can’t get enough of watching Wazza’s box to box sprint for his goal. He is a BEAST!
@aig alex is god
We may appear (on the whole) more gracious losers against you lot than City but it’s always different against local rivals isn’t it? There have been some ugly scenes on Arsenal/Spurs blogs over the years let me tell you, fortunately we don’t normally lose against them although I see that changing at The Lane very shortly.
Your right we did play well at your place earlier in the season but the same old pattern wasn’t it. In fact that was one of the most perverse losses I’ve ever seen us contrive, Diaby’s own goal truely confounded most fans but again lets blame it all on that fool Almunia.
Gooner77
i agree that derby rivalary is different but the arrogance of those city pricks really is annoying. no history, not won anything for 34 years and counting and yet they go on talking trash
i also feel you missed diaby yesterday. apart from the own goal at Old Trafford he was excellent in that game. Would have done much better than Denilson who IMO was woeful yesterday. Almunia seriously is a mixed bag. did well at Old Trafford last season in the CL and then undid all the good work by letting Ronaldo score from 40 yards.
@willierednut
sorry mate but i am a real pessimist.However if united win i am as happy as any one of you.
Just one pt to everybody who says that 4-5-1 is working – it works only when you have classy wingers, because then it transforms into a 4-3-3…I said the same thing once eralier with barca in mind…theoretically they play 4-5-1, but with the quality of Messi and Henry, they become as good as a 4-3-3…you couldnt possibly play the 4-5-1 with say, Park on the right and Nani on the left (isnt it amazing what a simple switch in positions will bring about in football?!!)
A big mention to nani and carrick who where outstanding yesterday. Viva nani viva nani, made clichy look like a tool, now the arsenal fans feel blue, viva nani.
nani is now really showing his talent.i think now fergie should play him regularly.if nani gets drop even for one game his form dips.he should play in every game.the thing that is bothering me is about valencia.i would like to see both valencia and nani play together.valencia has been good for us this season and it would be unfair if he is not in the startingXI.
UNITED FOREVER.
@aig alex is god
Oh I agree entirely about City, I despise them in the same way I despise Chelsea. In fact it was the emergence of Chelsea under Abramovich that softened my attitude towards Manchester United and also Liverpool. Suddenly I had to listen to Chelsea (and now City fans) tell me why they are better than us and why they will finish above us. Respect to you lot because you have seen Chelsea off to a large extent and probaby will with City too (even though I would make Chelsea favourites for the title this year still), what is totally depressing for us Gooners is that as soon as Chelsea got their cash they changed from a team we used to beat(or at leat never lose to) on the regular to a team that routinely finishes above us in the league, as soon as City got their cash we have been well beaten 3 times by them on their patch which is pretty galling.
On a slightly different note, I watched the game yesterday in a pub in Camden, this is pretty much Arsenal territory. I was therefore very surprised to see about 10 cockney Man Utd fans cheering on their team. Sorry if there are any on here but what is it with Londoners (or Southerners in general) supporting Manchester United or Liverpool?
Gooner77
you have been beaten by city but i feel they will eventually fizzle out. Also they still have to come at the Emirates and i feel you will get one back over them
I think we managed to win silverware in the last 3 years mainly because our young squad stayed together and some matured into world class players, namely Ronaldo and Rooney while Vidic and Evra have been excellent bargains.Your problem is players leave the club at the wrong time and then you have to rebuild all over again. You came desperately close in 07-08 but then lost Flamini and Hleb in the summer and then had to rebuild last year. If this current lot sticks together the likes of Wilshere, Ramsey,Vela, Fabregas(think he will go to Barca in the next 1-2 years) can lead Arsenal to silverware for sure.
All the Gunners on this forum – one simple question:
What does it take for a man of Arsene Wenger’s (supposed) intelligence to realize that he needs to have a Plan B?
Honestly, I think you have got the players, bar one DMF and an out and out striker, but much the same could be said about United (we lack a class attacking MF and a quality goalpoacher).
Don’t mean to gloat, and don’t mean to cause offence, but what does it take for your gaffer to see the light? It would be interesting to get some insights from you guys – I dont follow Gunner news, so its good to hear from you guys…
i think valencia could place in a 433/451 formation in the middle
like
vds
brown ferdinand vidic evra
valencia scholes fletcher
nani rooney giggs
if nani keeps this form up valencia will either have to sit on the bench or play somewhere like this
Couple of Points
- Considering when the PFA player of the year voting takes place (around now isn’t it) and Rooney’s sudden surge of consistent form… he must be a shoo-in surely?
- Carrick was brilliant today. My MOM… his positioning, breaking up of attacks and spreading of the ball was top draw and he regularly gave us a platform for attack.
- Park gets his fair share of stick, some of it justified… but you can’t deny that he always adds to our counter-attacking football. It can’t just be a coincedence that whenever he plays, we always seem to launch our best counter attacks… and I’m not just talking about against Arsenal either… i always notive it whenever he starts for us. Rooney and Nani were obviously fabulous for the goal, but (as Andy Gray pointed out) without Park’s run there would have been no goal
- On Arsenal… I quite like Arsenal nowadays, i think it coincided with Henry leaving… but whatever, they generally play sublime football and in Fabregas have an utterly utterly brilliant player, who for me is the second best midfielder in the country behind Essien. However, it is clear that they need a new keeper and Clichy of 3 years ago… as well as a suitable replacement when RVP gets injured (and that dosen’t mean Bendtner…).
@jeet @aig alex is god
We constantly ask the same question. Believe it or not there is a growing chorus of dissent against Wenger that gets louder each year we don’t win something, the idea that all Gooners worship Wenger is false. Personally I am always behind him and think he’s been great for us and hope that he can do so again, however results like yesterdays really challenge that belief. Not because we lost to the champions of England but because of the manner of it, because it’s becoming a regularity and because of Wengers decisions to effectively throw the FA cup and Carling Cup by playing weakened teams. This team need to win something even if it is only the Carling Cup, otherwise they will grow up as footballers knowing they fall at final hurdle all the time.
@Gooner77
It has been nice talking to you. Always great to have fans from other clubs who talk sense and you can have a good discussion or banter with. Keep on visiting and hope you BATTER Chelsea next weekend
the best part about this result is Arsenal now have a gun to their head – they HAVE to beat Chelski to stay in the race. If only Terry missed that header on Saturday this woulda been the best weekend ever !!! Still, I can’t see Chelski taking all three points and I can see Arshavan desperate to make up for his lack of shots on target against us. Brown and Evra were class. Evans and Ralph played well and gained vital experience beating Arsenal away. the Teams on a great run at the mo, hitting form at the right time, as usual.
BRING ON MILAN.
Well gooner77 arsenal fans calling for wenger to go are complete and utter tools.
@aig alex is god
Yea you too mate, I’ve come on here in the past and had good discussions with some of you boys but also been told where to go in no uncertain terms so nice to have a decent chat.
@PaulParker
I hope we go and beat Chelsea too, but just can’t see it unless Drogba suffers a freak injury during the week. I don’t think we have ever beaten them when Drogba is playing, he terrorises our defence. Regardless of that I can’t see how the players can have any belief that they can win the title when they have been so comprehensively beaten at home by you lot and Chelsea
@willierednut
I agree mate but some of these fans were not familiar with Arsenal FC before 1997.
@macha
y would u drop rafael for brown.yeah i like brown but to be frank rafael is improving by every game.for me rafael should be a regular starter.fletcher has become a star player only by playing more games,same should be done with the likes of nani,rafael,ando etc.time has come where rafael should play more games than brown and neville.i wont mind if rafael starts against milan in the champs league.
@ Gooner77
You didn’t watch it in a certain yellow fronted Irish bar did you?
Gooner77, have faith mate, Chelski looked shakey against Burnley and even if you don’t win you can nick points off em. wIth City walking round with TEAM BRIDGE shirts the pressure on Terry isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. What a TWAT that CUNT is. Morale is low at the Bridge and if anything they’re coming out of form. I can’t see em going on an unbeaten run till the end of the season, they got some hard games coming up, starting with Cechs reunion with Hunt tomorrow. Then after you go to the Bridge they’re away to Everton. I’ll be surprised if they take 9 points from those 3 games. Not gonna happen.
Meanwhie the REDS go marching on.
Keep your chin up mate !! might never happen, even tho it probably will, hahahaha
My brother, who’s only 12 (I’m 9 years older), and I have always been really close and have always been United-fans until just a few of weeks ago when he all of a sudden decided to give up United for Arsenal. It felt good that we really trashed them, but I didn’t want to rub it in his face too much. I’d rather want him to realise his mistake in forsaking the club he’s supported since he started to kick a football. After the game he kept insisting on stuff like “we’ll be the best team in the world next year”, “Arsenal will mature”, “Fabregas will get even better”, which sounded somewhat stupid coming from such a smart kid.
Normally, I wouldn’t waste a second of thought for people who change the club they support over a night, but me and my brother have shared so many great moments when watching and supporting United together and it was kind of our thing. I’ve not made a big deal about him switching allegiances and just let him get on with it without discussing it much. Any advise on how to “win him back” to the United camp? Or should I just accept that he’s now an Arse-fan and that all those years of supporting United together is of the past? I know he’s a young lad and all, but I was planning on bringing him to Manchester next season to watch a couple of games and have a nice few days, but those plans seem to be gone out the window.
RE: Gooner 77
As Alex said, it really has been a pleasure speaking to you today, I wish all fans were as unbiased as you.
Come back for another chat shortly; hopefully next Sunday when you beat the chavs!
Arsenal fan here. Credit where credits due, you outplayed us just as you did last May at the Emirates. SAF showed how little tweaks in tactics can change the game, after he released Scholes from midfield you were just a completely different animal and we had no answer to it. Wenger’s stubborness is his most frustrating quality, sticking with players like Almunia when he’s made dozens of shocking mistakes this season alone is beyond me.
@Knightsmith
Absolute pleasure mate, in fact today has restored some of my faith in these internet football forums. It does my head in when all you get is petty name calling between fans behind a computer screen. To be honest it was easy to take yesterdays defeat on the chin because it was so comprehensive, same as in May in the CL semi and August was just comical. I don’t know if it’s cos I have matured but defeats used to hurt a lot more than they do – 99 FA Cup semi for example. Anyways good luck for the rest of the season and I’m praying we don’t come up against you or Chelsea in the CL.
@SteniS
Where are you and your brother from? Surely that should determine the team you support?
@MeS
Irish pub? No don’t think so, cant remember pub name but was near Camden tube
@ gotta hate tiny tears
I have to agree with you here mate RE Afromanc. The pedo chants at Wenger are discusting, terrible and very unfair. I can’t begin to imagine being accused of something so terrible. Maybe its Fans Forums like this where we can put it to bed once and for all.
I tend to disagree with the performance of our central defense pairing. while Evans was pretty solid in the second half defensively, he was absolutely poor in passing (as he is almost always). and thanks to Arshavin bad day that he didn`t score twice or 3 times against Brown who was really poor defensively and I was always thrilled when the play was happening around him. fortunately, it was just 1 goal that we conceeded, but the difference of playing Brown – Evans to playing at least one of Vida – Rio is so massive. and I am not getting into complacency about their performance just because we won yesterday
Rooney and Nani ripped the arsenal into pieces
keep it up reds!
It was a great performance from United, I was cautious before the game and had predicted a 2-2 scoreline but United were superb.
After missing a fair few chances in the opening half hour I did wonder if we would live to regret those misses but, thankfully, we just continued to control and game and the goals came.
Nani and Rooney were both superb, as many have said it was Nani’s best performance of the season and probably of any season with us.
Much like the Champions League semi-final when the 3rd goal went in I didn’t know what I was doing – it was almost an out-of-body experience because 3-0 away to Arsenal is not a scoreline I had thought of in my wildest dreams.
I kept thinking “It shouldn’t be this easy, what’s going on!”.
We really do seem to be hitting a purple patch with some top notch performances, all I can say is keep it up please lads!
http://arsenal-mania.com/articles/3108043/Three-easy-points.html?
You guys got to read this.
fucking Arsenal!!! Nani played all Arsenal players and Rooney also make record again on Arsenal.
what a defeat for Arsene Wenger,Alex Ferguson fuck his ……………