1. At the start of the day I’d have taken a point at Stamford Bridge. We never win there, regardless of which team goes in to the game in better form, so a draw is a decent enough result. Don’t forget that City lost there a few weeks ago, so despite some of their drab performances this season, Chelsea are still the 4th best team in the country. If someone had offered us a point on 57 minutes when we were 3-0 down we would have bitten their hand off. Despite us being the better team for most of the game, today is certainly a case of one point gained rather than two dropped.
2. With just eight minutes played, the first decision typical of those that are made when we play at Stamford Bridge was made. Jose Bosingwa pulled Ashley Young’s shirt in the box in clear view of Howard Webb. Unlike Welbeck, who stayed on his feet at Arsenal the other week when he was fouled in the box which meant nothing was given, Young went to the ground. Two minutes later, Danny Welbeck was racing clear of Gary Cahill on his début, who stuck out a leg, got nothing on the ball, and brought our man down. Whilst the challenge started outside the box, it wasn’t until Welbeck was in the box that their legs tangled and he was tripped. At the very least, it was a straight red card for Cahill, but again, Webb waved it on. Every year Ferguson talks about our bad luck at Stamford Bridge but we’d barely even got started with it yet.
3. Chelsea’s first and third goals were scored by United players. Nice feet from Sturridge saw Evra beaten before the ball rifled off Jonny Evans in to the net. The third goal came as Rio got in the way of an off shot attempt from Luiz, deflecting it past David de Gea. There was nothing unlucky about Chelsea’s 2nd goal though, with Evra not getting tight enough to Fernando Torres to stop the cross and Rafael/Valencia leaving Juan Mata unmarked. His finish was excellent though, with him blasting the ball past de Gea on the volley.
4. “Rio, what’s the score, Rio, Rio, what’s the score?” the Chelsea fans chanted at 3-0, after booing his every touch. His crime? Being the brother of the player who John Terry has been charged with racially abusing. Honestly, is there no limit to the depths some fans will sink? Proper little scousers, aren’t they.
5. After a shaky period of ten minutes or so, having to shrug off the shock of conceding two goals in the first five minutes of the second half, United started to get some momentum going again. Sturridge had been berated by Andre Villas-Boas for not getting back to defend after going on the attack, so he sprinted in to the box to try and stop Evra. Unfortunately for him, he ended up taking our captain’s legs from under him and conceding a penalty. About time! Wayne Rooney then dispatched maybe the best penalty I’ve ever seen a United player score, smashing it in to the top corner. Game on.
6. Against Stoke in the week we were awarded two penalties and sensibly opted to let two different players take them, with Chicharito putting away the first and Dimitar Berbatov the second. Rooney, who isn’t exactly renowned for his penalty taking, wasn’t going to let anyone else take the penalty that Welbeck won after he was tripped by Ivanovic. This penalty was a softer one although he did stick a foot out and didn’t get the ball. Welbeck fell and Webb had no hesitation. This penalty wasn’t as good but he calmly sent the goalie the long way. We had twenty minutes to get something out of the game.
7. Ferguson got his substitutions wrong at Anfield and alarm bells were ringing today when he replaced Young with Chicharito and then Rafael with Scholes. How was Chicharito going to get a touch when we weren’t really putting any crosses in to the box? Valencia has been our best attacking outlet for months and now he was being forced to right back, replacing our young Brazilian who’d had a great game. Giggs moved out to the left in Young’s absence and with six minutes left to play floated in a perfect ball for Chicharito to put away. Now, only David Silva has more Premier League assists than Giggsy and Hernandez put away his 8th goal of the season, in 19 appearances, just 12 of those starts. His movement for the goal was spot on as he yet again shows he’s a player for the big games.
8. David de Gea had a good game and pulled off one of the best saves of the season as Mata threatened to win it for Chelsea in the dying moments. A ludicrously awarded freekick was heading straight for the top corner before de Gea somehow managed to get his finger tips to it. It was good too see Evra protect him at the corners better than any player did at Anfield too. The press have their agenda, making a fuss over every tiny incident, but we can’t have too many complaints with how the Spaniard has performed against the better teams in the league this season.
9. You have to wonder how much longer it will be before Fabio is given a start at left back, given how out of his depth Evra is and has been for some time now. He just isn’t at the races and you have to wonder if it’s the captain’s armband that is keeping him in the squad. I like him and want him to do well. The fact that he’s never given a break surely can’t help him. He played 48 games in 07-08, 08-09 and 10-11, playing 51 games in 09-10. Is he just knackered?
10. Rooney, who Man of the Match, claimed this might be the point that wins us the title. Chelsea were there for the taking today but when the referee is having a mare and you score two own goals, you can be grateful for anything you get. City go two points clear again but we’ve got some players coming back. If we can get this far with a depleted squad, let’s see how we we’ve got a fuller squad to choose from.
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Agree that Rooney’s first was as good a penalty as you’ll ever see but I still would have put a lot of money on him missing the second!!. (I closed my eyes for that one!) In the end of the day a point at any of the top six grounds is acceptable and two points behind City is significantly better than three. If we can come away from White Hart Lane in a couple of weeks no more than four points adrift, I’d take that as we will then have the easier run in
Absolutely delighted with the fightback today but couldn’t believe the fact Rio was bring booed all game. Actually…its not surprising and that’s very very sad. Classless.
Rio’s crime? Kicking a female steward when walking down the tunnel after being sent off
BTW, great pic of De Gea’s save from Mata. He has much to learn re policing his six yard box and knowing when and how to punch v catch but he’s clearly talent. He’s at the right club to perfect his game. Fergie will take care of him.
I love Evra but i think its time to give him some rest and try Fabio on the left. Evra has been making too many errors and almost all lead to goals conceded.
Thank nancy boy for taking too many touches. A great game. Rio and smalling at CB FTW!
Pete Borota
Racists make up all sort of excuses for their behaviour.
Run along now rent boy.
Good comments. I especially agree with what you have to say about CaptainEvra – the guy is a ninja-warrior but his concentration seems to be somewhat unfocussed. It’s understandable for him to be off in that department but he really does need a week/ten days off.
Before he was taken off, Rafael was excellent – again. This match suited TheGingerNinja perfectly – he was given loads of time/space and conducted the orchestra.
On the down side, Ashley Young just isn’t good enough. And, once again, Antonio Valencia spurned an excellent shooting opportunity when he just would NOT hit the ball with his left foot from inside the top of the box, after having done ALL the hard work by scuttling into a great shooting position.
Borota:
It is certainly not a coincidence that chelski fans jeered him for publicly supporting Anton(not for kicking the steward ). And rightly so cause it looks like terry is a racist beezneetch among many other heinous things.
Good point yet feels like 2 slung away,and well well well some are learning that Evra doesn’t tackle.
I was hoping Pogba was brought in instead, see whether he can conjures up something.Its time to trust this youngsters into the fray,big time.
Never heard them boo him before.
Never heard them boo him before.
I agree re Young so far, Denton Davy. The Arsenal home game apart he has yet to look up to the high standard we set for wide players at UNITED but I think he will improve with a run of games although I would be surprised if he’s ever in Fergie’s “best XI” ahead of Nani and Valencia. Still a good add to our squad if he can settle in over the rest of this season.
Manuknighted.
Pogba? Sure at Old Trafford when we are coasting.Any other game nope we go with the tried and tested..
Agreed on hernandez. He’s simply a superb box finisher. His movements bamboozles even the very best defender and for a player who is below 6ft, he’s potent in The air.
A big game player without a doubt, the only shame is his all round game which is still open to further improvements, if he does then i see him turning into the top class complete forward.
Has a great attitude/personality to boot. Always willing to learn and that will stand him in good stead at this football club. His form dipped this season compared to his debut season due to teams working out his game but he knows he’ll have to work extra hard at his game to come up trumps.
Getting two pens at the bridge is the very unlikely happening anyway so i’m delighted. Wayne dispatched them well.
Evra used to be the best fullback in european football for about 3years to balance attacking and defensive play. Now his standards have waned, still bombs forward brilliantly but at the expense of his defending. something has to be done, maybe rest him more or add more competition for his place.
Pete Borota = lying weasel. The incident he refers to happened in 07/08. Rio was NOT booed in subsequent games against Chelsea over the past three seasons until today’s match (the first since the Terry/Anton incident.) What a coincidence.
I still think that we lost two points rather than gained one. They were very lucky with all the goals that they scored, but we did not show too much urgency during the first half. We should have been fare more aggressive, particularly at the beginning of the match when they were all over the place. I am sure that had we scored first, we would have gone on to win handsomely.
I was still disappointed at the end as we had about 10 minutes to find a winner. We just lacked a little bit of composure in the final third and kept giving the ball away cheaply. Yet another opportunity missed!
I think Scott read my review on previous thread and then posted
Was their infamous “Anton Ferdinand, you know what you are” chant also in retribution for Rio accidentally kicking the Chelsea steward in 2008?
Word on the street: Terry is writing a book called ‘Rosetta Boned’
I love Evra, but I’m worried he’ll have to go when Fabio comes of age and gets a run in the squad.
Have to say though, I still think he’s very good. Yes, he has often been our weak link, but he’s also great in attack and even when he’s misfiring defensively he’s not as bad as most.
The wing backs have to do so much legwork it’s not wonder he gets knackered though. He’s up and down the wing like a yoyo, and when he’s back he’s expected to go toe to toe with, often, the most gifted attackers the other team can through at him. I mean just look at the mess Valencia routinely makes of Ashley Cole, and Cole is higher rated than Evra. The wingers hold all the cards and Evra only has to get it wrong once and it’s a goal.
Other than that, just had to say, De Gea was immense. That last gasp save was about as good as any goalkeeper can do. Almost nobody is stopping that.
Sweet. Quick reactions up. Watching AVB on MOTD is cringe worthy
Can we also reflect on Scholesy as well he was majestic today. He is not the answer long term obviously whilst our squad is crippled by injuries he is really filling a gap.
Fred covered me perfectly on the Rio subject. Chelsea fans will really sink to new depths each time. And Rio wasn’t even sent off before that incident. He also apologised after the game. Something I doubt Terry has ever done in his life.
Chelsea fans have booed Rio on 2 occasions. The first was the Old Trafford game in 2010. The second was today. Both instances revolved around John terry being a complete scumbag and losing the captain’s armband for England as a result.
You want to support the Captain Leader Legend Cunt no matter what he does? Fine by me. But stop acting like Rio or his brother are the villains in this. Makes “Team Terry” look all the more pathetic.
in all honesty evra is a contributary factor to a lot of goals we are conceding lately, its inevitable that he’ll play vrs liverpool next weekend but after that he should be taken out of the team for a couple of weeks. i dunno weather its the ammount of games played, the mental stress of all the suarez crap or what but we need him back to the Evra of 2008 especially with Vida out for the run in.
Something else no one has mentioned. It’s not just the penalties. There were two instances (one with Welbeck in the 1st half and one with Javier in the 2nd) where our striker was through on goal and they were rules offside. We didn’t even get a replay for those calls! And Danny (at least to me) looked onside.
I’m looking forward to hearing Lee Dixon’s thoughts on today’s game. Let me guess: Chelsea were phenomenal, United were lucky, neither of our penalties should have been given, Cahill’s foul on Welbeck definitely wasn’t a foul, Chelsea are heading in the right direction, United are in terminal decline, City, Tottenham, Arsenal and Newcastle are all miles better than us etc.
Good night reds,
fully drunk,
4 AM here and my fucking office at 7 AM
dont want to go, but cant help..
i love Man United and i always love ROM..
Good night..
what a team!!
what a gaffer!!
what a comeback!!!
and..
what beautiful Busby Babes…RIP…you will never be forgotten
first thing tmrw
“I love Evra, but I’m worried he’ll have to go when Fabio comes of age and gets a run in the squad.”
I like the guy but he needs competition from someone like Fabio now.
Pete borota go suck the cock of some conserative mp on the kings road u rent boy filth.
As for Evra, for me there’s no question he’s knackered. He’s in phenomenal shape, but I feel that he’s burned out mentally. And how could he not. I do wish Fergie rested him once in a while (now that Fabio is fit), but it will be a long time before anyone replaces him for good. It’s not just the armband. Evra has something no other defender has at the moment. He’s reliable in the sense that he doesn’t get injured. That’s no small feat at Manchester United nowdays…
A fantastic comeback, but 3 points against Liverpool and Spurs seem almost essential unless City slip up again.
On Evra, after the Liverpool match I’d send him off on holiday for a week. Carrick too. With players returning we’ve got the depth to cover their absense for the Ajax games, and they could both use a break! Evra especially has long looked jaded. Could make all the difference having them rested for the run in. Just a thought.
@Doghouse
Ah, I didn’t realise at first you elaborated on Evra. Fair points.
And it was a great save. Free kicks in the top corner usually find the net.
The reason I bet on the United win at 3-0 down was the sheer difference in technical ability. Luiz’ header looked a cracker, then on the slow motion replay he buggers it up, didn’t get as much on it as intended, but his not inconsiderable hair obstructed Rio’s view and that was it. The other own goal – yeh Sturridge did well rounding Evra but he then hesitated and I thought it looked like we’d smothered the player sufficiently, then the double deflection was another one of those things. The Mata goal was the 1 goal I thought was deserved. On top of that, they could have been down to 10 and we could have had the 2 pens,
We weren’t taking the ball on the outside to the corners on either side, maybe pre planned, but certainly Bosingwa showed tony V inside on more than one occasion. Ivanovic was just a thuggish centre half who appears out of position, lunges violently and evades cards every time I see him play. He then gets carded late in games when their game is won. Despite all the refereeing mistakes, it’s the dishonest, unsporting play from the Chelsea players that irritates. Yes Webb looked reluctant to give us anything (in the early stages especially) but as a telly viewer, it was during the slow-mo replays that the cynical Chelsea fouls, dives, shoves, trips etc were 100% clear. Having said that there’s supposed to be a professional referee on the field and unfortunately for us, teams seem willing to risk up to 5 pens per game, knowing refs will be reluctant to give more than 2.
Slim
AVB making himself look like a right prick! Dixon and Dublin seemed lime they couldn’t really be arsed about talking about the game.
Other than the two OG’s and long range efforts I can’t think of any other real opportunities bar their second?
Borota
You carry on deluding yourself?! You can’t defend the indefensible?!
The other sad consideration with Evra is age. When Giggs started to lose a bit of his edge he moved into the centre, became a kind of all round midfielder rather than bombing up and down for the whole match. Evra does not have that option. Either he’s up and down the wing like a whippet, or he is nowhere. That is how he overtook Heinze for the job in the first place. Could he play in midfield? I don’t know, probably not better than anybody else we’d put there. So what can be done?
If he reined himself in, didn’t bomb forward as much, maybe he’d have more in the tank to defend, but I think he’s such a threat on the attack that he needs to get involved. I mean a lot of people here are really critical of him as a defender, but some of his attacking play is superb. He gets right up the pitch into people’s business and makes things happen.
I dunno. In his defence, I don’t see anybody better than him on the radar. He’s world class, with the proviso that the best wingers in the world are two steps ahead of the best wingbacks.
Evra will play against Liverpool…but the Norwich game I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s given a breather. Only problem is, I doubt Fabio will play if Rafael also starts, coz as we found out vs palace, that can cost us with regards to substitutions.
Doghouse – Well Pat is a defender after all. Just like Torres is a striker. That means nobody cares if Torres has a good game, if he has more yellow cards for chelsea, than goals.
Same goes for Evra. I don’t give a damn shit if he’s brilliantly on the offensive ends, when he costs us so many times at the back.
he’s a defender and his primary order is to fucking defend the goal.
And since WC 2010 he didn’t look the same. This season it’s even worse than last. He gets ripped apart by most average players. And what boggles my mind even more is that Fergie is creating aboslutely no competition at leftback.
Could you imagine Evans or Carrick having performances like Evra? They would’ve been dropped.
Quote of the Day:
” It’s not just the armband. Evra has something no other defender has at the moment. He’s reliable in the sense that he doesn’t get injured. That’s no small feat at Manchester United nowdays…”
Costas 22.59 Sunday 5th February 2012
Classic!!!
Small equation – Darron Gibson – 10 = Fans new scapegoat.
No way this is 3 points spurned! Three down away from home and we salvage a draw? Taking huge positives from that! Imagine city fans when we went 3 goals behind? Then imagine their reactions when pea scores? United just won’t go away! You got to be in it to win it folks! We’re most certainly in there with a shout. Loved Hernandez’s jubilation at scoring? You can see it means every thing to him. We gifted goals to Chelsea, but showed that United never say die attitude.
Bit Harsh on Evra – attacking wise he’s still the bomb,
defending…he’s become as bad Gabriel Heinze in his last season.
Heinze was a great fiesty defender but then he became an idiot on and off the ptich.
Evra should get moved up to left midfielder.
We should buy a left back & give them Ashley Young in return for being so nice to sell.
I hear Aly Cissokho is available….
Mikekelly12
Those two tight shirt wearing geezers were as gutted as the stamford bridge crowd . You put it rightly;they couldn’t be arsed. i think the headlines for tomorrows dailies were all ready being written. “United crash to city… oops, Chelsea at the bridge”
evra cant be droppd
cos hes captain
mostly injury free
rio dsnt always play so evras the 1 with experience in def
even though fabio might be better evra adds more composure an is more reliable
twins are a bomb waiting to explode
Re there any left backs in the league who’ve performed better than Evra? I’ve seen a few having seemingly good seasons, only to see them fail after signing them onto my fantasy football team. Patrice has got to be more knackered than the others after so many minutes played. We’ve seen a changeable defensive line all season and if Evra would have been rested, say every 4 games, that would have introduced even more inconsistency in team selection, ie more changes at the back and less familiarity.
Rio on Twitter
“I got booed by the cfc fans today,….well done guys thanks for inspiring me & the lads! That’s like fuel to me!”
Also, is Dion Dublin gay? He was on match of the day he was talking about a picture of him and Stevie Wonder, amongst others, and he said, that’s me on the left with my brothers and my partner in the centre. They were all blokes?? Just wondering?
*Are not Re.
Re Chicharito, that’s another important goal from him.
@Notorious
Nah, I think you’ll also have to subtract 12 in that equation mate. At half time, Evans was trending on twitter and I thought I should check out the comments. What a load of crap. One rocket scientist accused him of “just standing there”. Of course. Because as a centre back, his job was to go and close down Sturridge (who cares if Rio and Evra already did) and leave Chelsea players unmarked in the 6 yard box. Brilliant logic.
Not for nothing, but there was a Chelsea defender that made an even bigger fuck up in the first half, only to have Howard Webb save his blushes. I didn’t see plenty of critisisms for him.
Chico’s goal at the end really reminded me of Ole smashing the ball in the back of the net in Barcelona 99. He only seems to score the goals that get you jumping out of your seat in delight… and his face reflects exactly what we all feel when he scores in those important situations… Massive goal… Massive point! Proper game! Its a bit daft to say I’d rather a game like this than 3 points but at the end of the season we’ll all remember this one…. Chico = Superstar!
at mike12
i think thats his musician bud,
Craig Burley from Espn, said De gea’s save from Mata was a bread and butter save? That’s an expert opinion right there lads….
Our 3rd goal was top quality. You can say bad defending, but the cross from Giggs, and the movement from pea was too good for Chelsea.
@ Willierednut – And who did Craig Burley used to play for…
@ Costas – Good point only Fergie was asking for the red card and it was, last man and all. Remember Cahill is english which pretty much makes him immune. Why he is so rated I’ll never know. You bring up a good point on our two dodgy offsides that went against us. Intrigued with the Hernandez one, we’ll never know, perhaps the powers that Be(rnstein) want it that way.
seriously there’s no way you can defend Evra’s individual mistakes. I’d say Baines has a better season than Evra overall.
But we have to give him competition. I don’ t care if it’s Fabio or Fryers but give that guy some competition. He’s effin poor at the back.
Ricky
Ooooohhhh I see, business partner maybe? Cheers mate.
NRD Cahill didn’t get carded because Webb thought it was Terry, who appears to have a super injunction on referees sending him off! Bread n butter my arse!! Regardless of the save, it should never have been a free kick in the first place!!
chicharito win us lot of points
he is one of my favourite player
alongside higuin he is the best finsher in the game
agree about evra he is still the best going foward but at the back c est du n importe quoi
he should be given a rest
rafeal is some player let s give him the number 2 he deserve it
@ Costas multiples of 3 are to blame for everything this season according to some of the posts I’ve read. The following except those marked with a hashtag aren’t my opinion.
3- Can’t defend anymore
6 – See twitter.
9 – No need to add anything.
12 – Injury prone
15 Out for the season but at start of the season some on here said he had lost it #
18 – See above thread
21 – Still not forgiven for making two tackles in the Bayern game and getiing 2 cards
24 – See 15#
27 – On loan but should be sold.
Baines?
Better than Evra?
Seriously???
Yes, competition is good, but if anything it’s rest he needs.
Hopefully the Penalty practice that Rooney’s been putting in will help us convert more chances. I’d like to see us scoring more from distance too. Too many shots lacking power or going over. We’ve got players that can hammer it into the back of the net, there just needs to be more attempts early in attacks, before the opposition get their team behind the ball and crowd the box. Welbeck and Rooney generally choose to turn away from goal, look for support from players behind and it works in that we retain possession, spray it wide, win corners or force a rushed clearance. We’ve had games with over 60% possession though, so a few more first time punts from distance wouldn’t be a bad thing.
@ Mikekelly12 – Aghh that explains it. I can sleep easy tonight.
@Notorious
Heh, nice mathematical analogy. I like those.
I’ll have to take some of the blame though. I’ve also critisized 21, but for his injury issues. The Bayern game was never his fault for me. As for Smalling, I admit that I am starting to worry. He plays 5 games and then he gets injured, sick or what have you. It’s a pattern that’s repeated itself 3-4 times this season alone.
One final thing about English players. I won’t play the race card in any way, but they do get away with a lot of stuff that foreign players don’t in the media’s eyes. It’s not just Cahill. Imagine if it was Nani, Torres or Suarez that dove like Adam Johnson did yesterday.
Exciting game, does feel like 2 dropped, we were better than Chelsea.
I cannot believe all the relentless SHIT Evra is getting on here. Absolute SHIT. Two deflections were his fault were they? All his assists, his winning the penalty that turned the game, his contribution to our attacks, the fact his pass completion and passing is fantastic that’s fuck all is it – FUCK OFF seriously. The guy has had no breaks, he is one of the best in the world in attack and DEFENCE. Are you telling me none of the other defenders make mistakes????? That our goal keepers don’t make mistakes – that Rio, Evans, Jones, Rafael have not made mistakes that lead to goals?????? Yes Evra will make mistakes, so does EVERY other player, it would help if Ashley bothered to assist in defence which he doesn’t unlike Nani.
Granted, Evra does need a rest or a substitution every now and then like every other player, but note his performances are better when Nani or Park are on the left as Ashley just does not put in a defensive shift higher up the pitch and leave Evra exposed, also, the team is supposed to defend as a UNIT. Sturridge is a good player, he will skin the bets full backs on occassion so what the hell.
That’s all I have to say, Good night and sweet dreams. Evra, got your back man.
Is Rooney on 19 or 20 goals this season? Did they take that one away from him against Galati?
Also, he has been the only consistent member of an unsettled and ever changing back four, some time he plays with kids who are all over the place on occasion like Jones at CB. When the back four is settled and his wing partner puts in a defensive shift as expected Evra is fine.
Rooney is on 19.
R.i.p the 8 babes that died in munich gone but never forgotten.
I love the ABU’s blaming Howard Webb for Chelsea not winning the game that I’m seeing on other sites and forums. Very amusing selective viewing.
I take it they forgot about the two penalties that COULD and possibly SHOULD have been given in the first half? Cahill on Welbeck was a nailed on penalty if you ask me and possibly the most blatant in the game. Not to mention Daivd Luiz’s absolutely ridiculous dive over Paul Scholes. Scholesy didn’t even put a foot in, Luiz just ran near him and then flopped over. Pathetic. Webb gives that, and if it wasn’t for De Gea making save of the season, then we’d have lost that game and of course, no one would be saying anything.
I love being a United fan. Fuck everyone else and their small minded hatred, which was typified in abundance today by Chel$ki fans booing Rio! I mean, WTF? I was fuming. Absolutely ridiculous. Terry caught red handed with video evidence for his offence on Rio’s brother, yet the plastic chavs boo Rio? Seriously, the mind boggles.
19 goals for Rooney. Not a bad record….
On Evra? He needs a rest for sure, but more than that, he needs some whipper snapper competing for his place. Competition is a healthy situation for any squad.
Cheers Costas. He’ll definitely be Top 6 goalscorer in clubs history this season then. I think 13 more goals this season may be out his reach as I don’t expect him to play any Europa Lge games.
As several others have said. Thankyous are owed to the away support. They owned the Bridge for the second half. 12th man for us. Made me weep with pride.
Webb had a bad game first half think we all agree on that. But credit to him for having stones to call 2 pens in the second half. These were all good calls as well, both stone wall pens. But that doesn’t take anything away from Webb who still had to call them. I think there might have been 2 other pens, the first against Danny under 10 minutes and the second a bit later against Ashely Young. If we had got either then it would have been a different first half.
We might have nicked it if we got a couple of offsides calls. But that isn’t down to Webb. The one against Chicharito at 90 mins was particularly hard to take. You never know. But that one could easily have been the game winner.
I have no problem with Wayne earning MOTM. Covered every blade of grass. Very very pleased with the spirit. Absolutely in awe of the away fans.
The reaction on Hernandez’s face suggested he thought he was offside. Our Away support is always the best. Nothing new there….
I’d like to bring attention to the FACT that Evans now looks kinda SOLID.
He looks assured, makes tackles and is doing really well.
I don’t blame him for the own goal but recently he has kind of impressed me more than Rio.
Those positionally are a bit odd together (today) but its better than Smalling&Evans or Rio&Jones.
Anyways I would like to praise Jonny for his solid performance, he won many aerial balls.
Keep it up son.
Scholes – Words cannot describe his ability, I;d take him now over Xavi + Iniesta.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2096742/Cristiano-Ronaldo-return-Premier-League.html
I don’t understand people saying Evra needs competition. He has competition in Fabio et al. The reason he plays ahead of them when they are fit is because while they are good players, he is better, if he wasn’t SAF would not play him. Rooney and Evra always start as they on average over a season they produce the goods better than anyone else.
Scholes ahead of xavi or iniesta? Yeah right , WAKE UP!!!!!
Top result, and what a save to get the point! Thats what we bought De Gea for, and he’s still growing and improving. Agreed with SAF, if there were more minutes in the game we would’ve won no doubt. Rooney stepped up big time and took those penalties like a proper striker. Well done pal! Hernandez started off with a trademark offside but when he receives quality service he’s as deadly as ever. His movement just before the cross is an example of why he’s so highly rated. Proper striker’s finish.
Rio was unlucky with the header as it was wide, but for a so-called “past it” defender he didn’t do too badly at the Bridge did he? It was top seeing Rio bark the orders at the back, we got a solid performance from him and Evans. Don’t think anybody put in a poor performance actually, and the substitutions were spot on. Scholes made a difference as soon as he came on, and every game he plays shows why SAF was right not to pay over the odds for anybody.
Needless to add I was positively ecstatic when Hernandez nodded home, but you don’t REALLY give up as a United supporter till the final whistle goes do you? How shit must the Rent Boys feel to lose a bloody THREE goal lead with 11 men on the pitch? They didn’t even deserve the lead in the first place! Ha, didn’t they say Boas sacrificed “flare” so they could improve defensively? Nope, they’re just fucking bottle jobs im afraid haha! Must say tho lads, the Portuguese lady on the Chelsea bench is easy on the eye isn’t she? Bloody hell. Then again, for a straight bloke watching 22 fellas running round for 90 mins im sure Delia Smith would start looking a “a-bit-of-alright” hahaha.
Quality result, im not worried about falling 2 points behind City this weekend either. Chelsea are shit but they aren’t exactly Fulham are they? Laters RoM.
IQ needs testing if you don’t understand what competition means.
Willie True enough mate. Wouldn’t you give anything for Ashley Rooney and 2 for Javier to at least put a couple of those shots on the goal. No pressure and all pulled to the left.
Just watched the last 10 minutes again. Crist we have a keeper. Can’t wait tell he learns to control the box a bit better. Great with the ball and a fine reaction keeper. Could do little about the goals. 2 own goals from evans and rio. The Mata goal was class, nothing wrong with our keeper on any of them.
evra should be tested as left midfielder, since we are short on lefties, get a proper left back to fill his place
FletchTHEMAN – De gea pulled off 2 top saves near the end. The media will probably sidestep those though and continue to slate the lad. Brilliant save from Mata.
Anybody know why both Rooney and Berbatov got faux-hawks??? Some kind of strikers’ pact? Did Chicha get it as well, I didnt notice?
Because Berbatov wanted to and Rooney copied Berbatov because he finally has hair again and he thought Berbatov looked cool. Hernandez also got one so did Giggs and Scholes. Fergie is getting his on Tuesday and Saad is getting his on wednesday.
Fucking hell, its a hair cut, bunch of closet homos here obsessing over what haircuts players have and what they shouldn’t have as if they are going to ask them out or something based on their hair. Its as if funky haircuts are a new thing. I’ve got Top Trumps of players from the 70s and you would not believe the amount of perms players had back then. Some right stupid barnets, most of them look like dead felines.
NRD – thought we watched players for their skills on the pitch, not how cool their hair is. What has ROM turned into? fucking milan catwalk? LOL.
There is no left back in the premier league that’s better than Evra at the moment,coupled with the fact that Ashley Young was virtually non-existent.He does a yeo man’s job,cutting in and dribbling players while Young did the square root of fuck all and yet we say “get a real left back”.You guys aren’t serious!!!
When Giggs moved into the left wing spot,Evra could relax cos Giggs knows what is required of a winger instead of trapping the ball and passing back like Ashley since his first injury.Tony V covers for Rafael while no1covers Evra.
oh CHELSE
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=366244923403794&set=a.207768289251459.58747.202608973100724&type=1&theater
I don’t see the big deal in highlighting evra’s defensive performance waning, that remains a fact so i don’t get The point in attacking anyone that has this view.
Evra is still one of the best left backs in the world (if not the best). His attacking style blends into the way united play. technically, he’s superb and fitness wise, he’s a warrior.
I think the standards evra set since joining the club is what some fans still want him producing. His ability to bomb up and down but yet still be defensively solid has entertained viewers but that part of his game has dimmed a little. understandably though, the man never gets a rest because he’s reliable, experienced and currently, despite the fact the likes of fabio and fryers are talented, they clearly aren’t ready to be first team regular starters or in fabio’s case, not staying fit for sustained amount of time.
evra defensive lapses is evident (although he isn’t the only culprit as other experienced defenders have had their moments of lapses too). He needs a rest to recharge and perhaps the other young players should be pushing him more, He is still the best left back in the premier league so those questioning his quality are mistaken, his performances defensively have dropped but that could be for a number of reasons (playing with inexperienced players, playing different back four in every game e.t.c).
Anyway, here’s hoping evra continues his good work and hopefully the defensive side of his game would get back to normal.
de gea still shaky at crosses and cks. but cannot deny his shot stopping ability. the save from mata right at the end was sensational. i tink evra needs a break to recharge his battery. i dun wish to tink he is already past it.
somehow i feel the way we got this draw is better than a 1-0 win. the morale for the team must be awesome now. hopefully we can go on and win it all
Evra has made mistakes, but he is still the best left back in the league. Someone mentioned Baines? I suggests you go watch some of his games to see how many times he gets skinned & out of position.
The case of Evra is simple, he plays so many games and is bound to have been beaten more times purely by the logic of law of large numbers. That said, I do think he needs some rest. He has been playing non-stop for a good 3-4 years now, never ever getting a rest.
Evans was solid, except the one occasion he was holding up his hand asking for offside, not bothered to check where Torres was, and almost cost us a goal until Torres took one touch too many. Would do good to remind him don’t try a Barthez again
abt the best pen ever….i think hargreaves pen in the ucl final was SUPER!
Whilst some peeps will see it as 2 points lost it all depends on how we do against Liverpool next weekend. If we win that game then we go one point ahead of City. I’m hoping they draw or loose as they are playing away. Either way it will be all square.
I want to say that David De Gea will be the best keeper. His save for the free kick was one of the best saves. Top Corner. How on earth can you save that?
I believe he will be the player who many will think world class in a few years. Give him patient guys.
to that one dude that was flipping out over de gea flipping out to evans, what’s wrong that? if you want dude to end up as immense as schmeichel you gotta let that shit go, encourage it in fact. cause if that same thing happened schmeichel would’ve SPAZZED OUT like a mufxxa at the general direction of evans regardless of whether if it’s his fault or not.
anyways de gea’s last minute was shockingly amazing he was shaky all game, and then under crazy pressure he suddenly pulls out those two inhuman back to back saves out of his sideburns that was badass
England should NEVER EVER claim that they are fighting against racism and for human rights. that would be UTTER HYPOCRISY. the past few weeks have CLEARLY shown that England still have a lot of racist cavemen for citizens and they have A LONGGGG way to go in the fight against racism within it’s borders. A country with a lot of racist cavemen should not be taking the moral high ground and telling other countries what to do and what not to do. Because Rio spoke up for his brother he is booed. UTTERLY STUPID AND SENSELESS. and now they try to make up an excuse that oh rio kicked someone in the tunnel? HAHAHAHA laughable from these fucking knobheads. England may just be the ONLY one of the so called “developed democracies” where a victim of racial abuse is BOOED. I cannot even express in enough adjectives how utterly shameful and terrible that is. let me not go on as i am really angry right now.
I think we wasted 2 points needlessly as this chelski team was not that strong yesterday, but again some lack of concentration in defense made us pay the price. We only need to remind DDG again that he’s NOT a handball keeper, the way he stuck out his foot which led to Evans’ own goal, but that was his only mistake of the night, as the other 2 conceded were unstoppable, and he kept us in it at the end with 2 fine saves. Young was somewhat disappointing for me, but I believe in the coming days he will reach his top form again, likewise for Rooney, who scored 2, but they were penalties, and I think he was not ready yet to comeback in this game, with some poor control and passing shown. Now let’s get ready to show those scouse scums what hell looks like!!!
Good Morning ROM!
What a day eh? Completely agree with everything that has been said on here so far and Scott’s comments regarding the match are spot on.
As for the Cahill tackle and red, the only way anyone can begin to defend that is by saying that Cahill caught Welbeck’s leg unintentionally. Add to the fact that he was the last defender and would surely needed to have been sent off. At that moment, Webb would’ve imagined the headlines about his supposed partiality for United and a red 12 minutes into the game at Stamford Bridge doesn’t read too kindly on him. That is the ONLY way any can defend Webb’s decision in that regard. But it’s all bollocks, it was a foul – intentional or otherwise – and Cahill should’ve been off. The game would’ve been over before it had even begun,
To call De Gea’s save as routine is simply ludicrous. There are probably only a couple more PL GKs who would’ve even got their fingertips to that let alone have the strength to push it out of harm’s way. What more does the boy need to do to get some credit his way? I mean, he is just 20 for God’s sakes. Imagine how good he will be when he is even Lindegaard’s age, let alone VDS’ age.
I also don’t understand what we need to do to get some credit our way. City have only Kompany out and falter in Jan, yet the whole world still says they have the best squad in the league. We have 11 players out – most of them starters – and beat Arsenal away and come back against Chelsea from 3-0 down and should’ve won the game in the end. And we are somehow in ruins with the worst squad in our history and have no chance of stopping the blue machine. I simply don’t get that. Anyways, I just want to see Nani and Cleverley back. That would really get the team going. And yesterday’s comeback will surely prove to be vital in the long run of things especially considering our momentum.
I agree with NRD yesterday. If we are just a couple of points off City at the beginning of March, we’re Champions. You heard it here first.
lordrt – are you serious?? Rooney gave his all this game. All he needed was a goal from open play which would have topped off a magnificent performance.
@Phil Jones’ Birdshit Streaks- from my point of view it seemed Rooney was somewhat below par, for I know he can play way better than this, but also I do know that he’s back from injury and will need some more training to get back in top gear, which hopefully will be against loserpool
Absolutely chuffed. Disappointed that Chicha didn’t cut that ball back for Scholesy, who was waiting to smash home the winner, but I’ll take a comeback that will make our rivals shit their pants.
Actually, my MotM would be Scholes. Totally turned around the match. Everything went through him. Magestic to watch. What an impact in 30 odd minutes. Seiously, can’t we just clone him or something?
Im glad that you poinyed out that we seemed to be the better team. Chelsea were lucky for the two goals and Evra didnt have to concede that free kick he could have driven his man to the coner by just running alongside him pushing him out. I thought we could have won it 1-3.
And I dont understand people who continue to insist UTD isnt playing well. If UTD isnt playing well,then who is?
Mikekelly12 – he means his business partner, for this drum he has invented.
It would be better for Scholes to start the Liverpool game, as he was great in the FA Cup tie, and we lost the balance only when he was subbed, and yesterday Giggs showed he was still more a left winger rather than CM. I would have wanted to see Pogba start alongside Scholes for our next game, giving Carrick some rest on the bench instead, and play Giggs on the left
Days like these are what being a fan is all about. I went from being drunk to sober and back to being drunk within a few minutes, the sense of clarity in those moments are stupendous and your mental state surprises you, leaves you in awe. And that’s what Sir Alex’s teams have continually given us, that mental will to be courageous, to be fearless. No other team in this league has that kind of belief. Only United stay competitive while in transition.
That is also what the young De Gea will come to possess in time. Imagine coming into the most watched sports club in the world, into the most important position on the football pitch as a 20 year old. Young and naive, under pressure even before those gloves are adorned, speaking in a language that gets him into trouble at a supermarket… It is only natural that restlessness, fear, doubt gets to you.. makes you hesitant. He is a long term project; Each passing season he is going to get comfortable, make friends, and that restlessness is going ebb away. I for one am glad we have him.
One more thing: Scholes, what a player. The most complete footballer i have ever seen. In this epoch of football, the average fan is starting to understand and appreciate the passers, the tickers, the playmakers; those unsung heroes of years gone by. And we have one of the best. Almost all of our plays yesterday resulted in a cross or an attempt on goal after he came on, pulling those strings, giving his teammates the confidence and poise to get into their natural attacking states, knowing very well that he is going to find them, that he is going to retain the ball.
Anyone of the opinion that he shouldn’t have come back, is a football amateur. I would have taken him back even with sneijder and modric in our squad.
RIP The Flowers of Manchester
lordrt – one think I will say about Giggs, is recently, he gives so much possession away by trying force cute passes and defence splitters every time. I know the guy is 37 and is a legend etc, but I think a bit of composure and keep ball is needed sometimes. He could do with taking a leaf out of Scholes’ book sometimes, but having said that, he has come up with a lot of quality assists this season, so I can’t be too mad at him!
Good noon Reds,
Love you Bubsy babes..RIP
Just watched the post match interviews and this Boas fella is indeed a silly young man. When asked about the lack of marking for our third goal his response was ‘Why don’t you ask Sir Alex about the 3 goals they conceded’ ???? WHAT?
This time its proven that it was not our medical teams fault. Shame on Owen for turning on people who had so much patience with him. At least he ate into the ABU purse for a full year!
http://www.football365.com/manchester-city/7483778/Hargreaves-woe-for-Man-City
The link to that classy save by De Gea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZPzAah48E
We are the first side in Premier League history to score four consecutive goals from the penalty spot.
Yet a nother first by United
Rooney: “You never know, that point
could win us the league”.
Cedars,
That twat Boas is cracking up…thats why he bought Sir Alex name..stupid
Rest in peace The Flowers of Manchester, always in our thoughts.
This come back is similar to the one we almost had against City. I believe if we remained 11 players we would have got more goals after Fletch’s strike
http://www.football365.com/f365-says/7490423/16-Conclusions-From-Chelsea-3-United-3
Just watched the highlights again and watching Scholesy ping those passes to the wings was so beautiful. I hope that he plays another season. The guy is an immortal in a field of mere mortals. He simply cannot be replaced. I love you Scholesy.
RIP Flowers of Manchester. Gone but never forgotten.
@Smartalex
Sorry for confusing you with the faker in the other thread yesterday. Should have done better.
I thought it would be proper to give Rio an interview. Journalists arent brave enough to represent victims of abuse! Better to pretend that there is no problem and bring in stories about a steward. Poor guy had to resort to twitter to let his feelings known.
Nothing about the Welbeck and Hernandez offside calls in the BBC highlights by the way. I realize it’s hard since there was no replay, but at least mention them. Both strikers were through on goal.
AVB’s post match interview was hilarious to say the least. It’s only a matter of time before AVB loses his head, hair and job. If I were AVB, I would tell Luiz that he is a defender and not some clown who runs around the pitch like a nomad. The guy is a mistake waiting to happen. And how is Cahill better than Alex? Cahill is an average defender at best. I would rate Smalling miles ahead of him. And that save by De Gea was absolutely spectacular. The lad has some amazing reflexes, he just needs to bulk up, which I’m sure he will and start coming out for those crosses.
Sir Matt on Bill Shankly (Who was his great friend)
‘Not have bad he is but I am way better’ RIP both you legends
Utd4life
Scholes was magic was he not? As soon as he came on every United player just wanted to give him the ball and some of those cross field passes were pure class
Yo Cedars, check your mail!
@Utd4life, You can see that Scholesy is getting better. In the first two games, a lot of his long passes were off the mark obviously because he had been out for so long. But he is now finding his feet and his passing yesterday simply blew my mind away. So, tell me again, why the fuck did he retire? The impact he had yesterday cannot be explained in words. The amount of possession we retained after he came on highlights what he brings in the absence of Cleverley.
If he feels he can last the full 90 against Pool, then he should simply start that game. Pool have a dreadful mid-field and he can run circles around them all day long, especially at Old Trafford.
Balaji. Hi Mate. Scholesy looks as though he never took a break from the game. Whatever rustiness he might have had is gone. The man is a footballing God. He will massacre the opposition if they give him time on the ball. However, I wouldn’t start him against Pool unless we absolutely had to. Bring him on as a sub when the players are tiring and then he can work his magic. Looking forward to the Scholes
Sorry I couldn’t complete my last post. As I was saying, I’m looking forward to the Scholes-Cleverley combo. The interplay between those 2 will be orgasmic.
Cedars. Hello mate. Yes, those cross field passes were a sight to behold. How I missed them when he was gone? For me, there is nothing more beautiful, at least on a football pitch, than watching Scholesy ping those passes to the wings with pinpoint accuracy. He is the Ultimate SatNav guru.
@Utd4life
If AVB lost his hair, that would be his most devastating loss! I bet he spends longer in front of the mirror than he does with his players on match day!
Nonetheless, he had a point about our defending. For Chelsea’s 1st and 3rd goal anyway. Nothing wrong with Mata’s.
Costas – that’s okay mate!
For starters, it was match-day, and you were in several conversations at once!
I mostly don’t bother to identify the false statements, because it gets messy. It’s far better when you or another stalwart identifies the presence of an impostor, as it could be him identifying himself. I did point it out this time, as I felt that ‘I’ had appeared accusatory and brusque.
Anyway, it looks like he will be back occasionally, so we’ll just have to not let it get to us.
Costas
Notice how the bugger keeps playing with his hair whilst being interviewed? Laughable really
Balaji
Just read it and replied my good friend
OohAah, Paul Spollen, Alex, kanchelskis, bigphil2003, irishpeloton, AntiScouser, Sparkz
Good day lads. On the ‘Should Rio Be Ashamed if He Shakes Terry’s Hand’ thread you all emended StR’s statement: “Rio hasn’t represented England at a major tournament …”
tom c has pointed out that we all missed what StR actually said.
StR was correct, Rio hasn’t represented England at a major tournament ‘since joining United’.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/should-rio-be-ashamed-if-he-shakes-terrys-hand/
Costas. LOL. Though to be fair to him, he does have a lovely head of hair. But the longer Chelsea get these kind of results, the sooner he will start losing his hair.
In the Express, Capello says:
‘I completely disagree with the FA about the John Terry decision and I have told that to the chairman. I considered and still consider Terry the England captain. I think we first should wait for the trial conclusion.’
Another translation of the interview appeared on Associated Press.
‘I spoke with the chairman and I told him that I don’t think someone can be punished until it becomes official. The court will decide. It’s going to be civil justice, not sports justice, to decide if John Terry committed that crime he is accused of. And I thought it fair that John Terry keeps the captain’s armband.’
Crapello would have been better advised to keep his mouth shut on this issue
It was in 58 when the
snow was falling
A team of Babes heard
their calling,
The pride of a city gone forever;
They took on the world But lost to the weather.
The best sides die and
fade away
But the memory of
them,is here to stay.
When the red shirts died A nation cried,
It could have been fate in 58
When the red shirts died,
A nation cried.
Did they mature to what might have been
Legend will say,they
were the best ever seen.
Why did it happen was it Gods way
To keep them
together,forever and a
day.
A million hearts were
broken that night
It was finally over,the
end of the flight.
Ahead of their time,thats
what was said
A team of genius;thats
what we read.
If time could stand still
They’d play forever,
Would they be
beaten,some would
say,never.
That wintry night in 58
Will always be a painful date.
R.I.G BABES!
CedarsDevil – hello my friend!
My thoughts exactly!
SAF called it right. Good fightback but two points dropped against a much inferior Chelski side.
This whole ‘stamp out racism from football’ is a joke. Cantona gets 9 months suspension for kicking a supporter yet a convicted racist gets only 8 games, which is the bigger crime? How long did Rio get for missing a drugs test which he passed it the next day? Again which is the bigger crime?
Now we have CLLC, already charged by police for racist remarks and awaits a court hearing, what have the FA done? Fuck all……….. These double standards are sickening
@Cedars, Utd4life
Lol, he definitely loves his hair and playing with it. It’s ok now, but he looked as ridiculous as Donald Trump when it was longer.
@smartalex
It was a short comment, but there was also a hint that it wasn’t you and I didn’t see it. Anyway, like Cedars said, your vocabulary can’t be imitated by anyone (it’s probably the best I’ve seen at ROM) and that will always be the faker’s downfall.
On the Rio subject, I didn’t pay much attention to it at the time, but I think that Rio has indeed competed in a mkajor tournament for England while he was a United player. The 2006 World Cup.
The flowers of Manchester- never forgotten. RIP.
Why is StR not saying anything about Paul Scholes?
Costas
Another trick that the faker is using, is to copy old comments of mine, and submit them on new threads. I’m not quite sure why he does it, for they are randomly chosen. Weirdo!
Further to Rio in 2006, you’re right about that. Oh well … it’s all a bit minor anyway!
@Costas: Any amateur body language student will tell you that playing with the hair is typically a sign of a) narcissism and b) lack of confidence. Contradictory as it may sound, the two often can go together.
Sir Alex interview..
has a go at the bloody linesmen and rightly so..
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid761333525001?bckey=AQ~~%2CAAAAAAnV5Z0~%2CxyoxShbYDLGSh2yu4XruBQh1N8XmHpc9&bctid=1435415637001
Notey90..
May be because Scholesy doesn like the limelight
For what it’s worth (not much), Graham Poll says:
9 minutes: Webb was perfectly placed to see Jose Bosingwa pull Ashley Young’s shirt but would have been put off as Young fell forwards instead of back in the direction of the tug.
VERDICT: Wrong decision.
11 minutes: From a perfectly good position it looked like Gary Cahill nicked the ball away from Danny Welbeck, who then fell over the defender’s leg. However, replays showed Welbeck knocked the ball away and Cahill fouled him. But as contact was outside the area, it was not a penalty, and as the ball was going away from goal there was no red card for denial of a goalscoring opportunity, either.
VERDICT: Missed the foul but no penalty anyway as outside area.
56 minutes: At last a routine decision as Daniel Sturridge clearly kicked Patrice Evra’s foot and United got a penalty.
VERDICT: Correct decision.
68 minutes: Another penalty and an incredibly similar incident to Saturday’s involving Adam Johnson for Manchester City. Welbeck saw Branislav Ivanovic start to make a challenge and threw his leg towards the Chelsea full back to draw contact. Clever forward play and, at full speed, very tough to get right.
VERDICT: Welbeck too clever for Ivanovic . . . and for Webb.
Not much more at:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2096952/The-official-line-Chelsea-3-Manchester-United-3–Graham-Poll.html#ixzz1laqDitfP
I have a hard time agreeing on the stick Evra gets. If we look at the game yesterday, Rio and Rafale deserve stick, they lost their markers and both resulted in goals. Rafael was ball watching and out of position and who knows what rio was doing.
As for Evra, next time United play – look at the following. The job Nani and Valencia does on the right side and how they double up and take the “open space”. They have a great understandning of positioning together with the back. Now if you look at the other side of the pitch you rarely see that winger position himself according to Evra. Too often Evra is cought one-one with an attacker and often 2-1. go back and look at games and you’ll see it.
One can hardly fault evra yesterday for the frist goal. It’s inside the box and at the Brigde where Chelsea often get soft penalities. I am 100% sure SAF ha told hios players to not make rash challenges inside the box. Yes Evra made him go the wrong way, but taken into context that he is trying to avoid a pentalty that can happen. It’s pure unluck that the ball hits Evans the way it does.
So I agree that evra plays to many games, but I am pretty sure that is becuse SAF cant solve the left wing the way he wants. Like I said, the cover on the right is far superior.
Hopefully Ronaldo is back on the left next season (pipe dream) Then we can move Valencia or Nani into the middle and our creative midfielder is found.
What a post by Sandeep at 8:55!
by the way, Park played his 200th game for us yesterday..
may be the 1st Asian to play so many games in English top flight..
you make us proud Ji
and…
RIP Busby Babes, its your day and you arent forgotten..
Notey90,
i was going through the articles on Busby Babes, copied it from there.
thanks anyway
Costas,
Evra needs a break mate..its high time..
we all can say he has got 7 days for rest, but i doubt its of any good when you regularly play..
you are right, he is knackered..
May be we will see him being rested after Liverpool game..
and by that time i hope smalling, Jonesy are back so that we have enough options..
by the way – yup Evra has been poor in patches and may be a well taken break will help sort the issues…
also agreed he needs some competition for the left back slot..
however my worry is that he is the skipper and Sir Alex would continue to play him..
May be armband should head over to Carrick or Rooney when Pat’s out.
Jimmy Murphy
“I knew those lads better than anyone, i found them, i nurtured them, i stood by them through night and day and pissing rain and snow, they let me mould their lives from the ground up and they repaid me and they repaid this club with their skill, passion and now their… lives.
Now its not only about their memory but showing the world who we are, showing that we wont bowed by tragedy, because how we are in the future will be founded on how we are today.”
“They should have had a man sent off in the first half,” said Sir Alex.
“That linesman [gave] a penalty against us from 40 yards away last year against Liverpool – and he can’t see that? I don’t blame Howard Webb. He needed help in that situation and he didn’t get it. That assistant referee, who’s all too happy to flag at Old Trafford for penalty kicks, didn’t give them. We had two penalties in the second half which were justified, but I think we could have had four. Welbeck’s clear through and he was brought down. OK, it’s outside the box [but there was] nothing, no decision.”
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All correct. No slurs against Official’s fitness or intent. The FA have no cause for complaint
ex BBC
Professional Footballers Association cheif executive Gordon Taylor says:
“The position had been made clear to Fabio Capello and you would expect that if employers had made that decision for a bigger picture he would have followed that. It’s going to make it embarrassing now for whoever it is who’s made England captain now the manager’s view have been made public. The FA have handled a delicate situation as delicately as possible and they will feel undermined to say the least by the manager coming out and disapproving of their decision. It’s a real stand-off, it’s not good and it’s not what we wanted before the European Championship.”
Ibknow it.is.not a subject, but someone mentioned abojt Pogba…i dont understand, Pobga is thinking will he sign or not, Ezekiel fryers also, Morrison left….
in Dinamo Zagreb playing one very good player Kovacic. Everyone want him. Our boss looking 10 mils, SAF say: Too much. Modric was cost 24 mils….now is 40. same thing with Bale…we will lose great player because we dont
” dont have” money. I m not blameing SAF. i blame Glazers. we cant afford to buy wrong player. but in the end…what is a 10 mils..if we miss that guy…we will buy him again maybe….but than he will be cost 50 mils. i dont know why we dont see opportunites like others
De Gea’s save from Mata’s freekick – 22 seconds
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xodukr_mufc-cfc-050212-dgsave-flv-sps_sport
Chelsea vs United – 23 minute highlights
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xodmf8_chelsea-v-manchester-united_sport
And De Gea was fantastic, greatest. that free kick he saved, i never seen in my life, someone did something like that. Fabulous! world classs…
Best United pen I’ve seen was Hargreaves in Moscow, pressure was right on him after Ronaldo had missed, and its a beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqwrtFcaoXU
If someone said we would get 4 points from the Emirates and Bridge I would have bitten their hand off. Beat the scousers and we are well on course. Spurs are decent but I aint worried about going there. Players will be back and fresh by then. Great comeback lads. If we were three down against Wigan then fair enough but it was the Chav’s at the Bridge. The lads dug deep and got their rewards.
Hernandez seemed to be floating in the air for 2 minutes before his header. Love the kid.
How many has Rooney now this season?
Willie – Burley bread and butter save? Ha. Fucking idiot.
mara – Oh change the bloody record mate!!!
We should have had 3 points yesterday. Evra wasn´t good enough, letting Sturridge (not even a world-class player) having a go at him when double covered….it is not OK!!!! defending 3 yards away from Luiz when a cross is about to happen is not ok either Rio!!!
Webb gave us a soft pen yes….but he painted himself into a tight corner for not sending Cahill down the tunnel in the first half.
i am amazed that AVB is such a useless coach. 3-0 and still can´t get the rents to control the game and slow the play down with 10 men behind the ball. Frankly they weren´t able cause Manchester united controlled the pace of the game for 80 minutes and did whatever they liked in midfield.
We should have won this game with 3 or 4 goals. bittersweet.
To all De Gea haters out there, (I know u are a lot). I agree with u, he shouldn´t have given Chelsea that corner on Mata´s freekick in the top corner. Hold on to the ball u fuckin skinny spanish waiter!!!!!
T.
You xenophobic cunt! Fuck you and fuck off!
To any other “de Gea haters” – Fuck you too, cunts!
Brendan – I suggest you ask Xavi and Iniesta what they think of Scholes. Scholes has been in a league of his own and in his proper pomp would walk into that Barca side.
Scott i don’t understand your issue over the awarding of the Mata free kick? It was stupid stupid tackle from Scholes. At stage in the game, just jockey the lad and try and force him to play a bad pass outwide or down the middle which we can defend. Instead, Scholes lunges in nowhere near the ball. Scholes had a phenomenal game yday, but his judgement in moments like these worries me as much today as it did 10 years ago.
The reason we will win this league – If City found themselves in the position we were in yesterday they would not have had the character to claw themselves back into it. Its a quality that Sir Alex seems to have instilled into the whole club and nothing is ever a lost cause. Other clubs just dont have that.
Cant wait till that sunny day in May………………………..20
@Matt4d,
if you watch it carefully, Scholesy stood his ground, stopped the challenge, it was Mata who ran into Scholes..
Scotty is right there..its more of an attacking player moving towards the the opposition player…it wasnt any tackle by Scholesy..
Hello King Eric…
howdy pal?
this is the list of scorers..
UTD top scorers..
Roo 15
Chciha 8
Berbatop 7
Danny the lad 6
Nani 6
Park, Young, Carrick, Valencia, Ando – 2 each
Samlling, Fletch, Scholesy, Giggsy, De Laet, Jonesy – 1 each
EPL TOP 10..
Van Persie 22
Ba 16
Aguero 15
Rooney 15
Dzeko 12
Yakubu 12
Bale 10
Dempsey 10
Adebayor 9
Balotelli 9
Balaji @ 6:30: ” City have only Kompany out and falter in Jan, yet the whole world still says they have the best squad in the league.”
That’s not really true – they had Kompany suspended and YaYa Toure in the African Cup: those are their two most important players, along with Joe Hart and Davide Silva. However, that said, I think that your larger point still stands: their vaunted “best squad” is not actually very deep.
Utd4life @ 8:32: “I’m looking forward to the Scholes-Cleverley combo.”
I don’t think you’ll see that combination – unless it’s a match in which UTD don’t need to defend.
When SAF brought on TheGingerNinja, the RentBoyz weren’t pressing so “he could play the game in his rocking chair”. This is the scenario in which his age/fitness really don’t matter since he’s never flustered and his vision is the most important part of his game. However, when Scholes is tightly marked/pressed then his declining fitness comes into play and he’s much less influential.
The way I see it, the highest up-side for YoungTom would be for him to be a “replacement” for the-legend-that-is-Scholes. And, by the way, I think that no one has commented that “Scholes 22″ just looks wrong ! Why didn’t Ashley Young get down on his hands-and-knees and beg TheGingerNinja to slip into # 18 ?
Sir Alex Ferguson has been named Coach of the Decade by the International Federation of Football History & Statistics.
2. You’re wrong about the red card. It was definitely not a clear goal scoring opportunity. He’s going away from goal. However, i’m stunned and amazed that no one has highlighted the point about the foul carrying on inside the box. By my understanding of the law. If a foul is committed outside the box and carries on inside the box, it’s a penalty kick.
Harry Gregg: “I turned around and got the shock of my life for there was Denis and Bobby standing, just watching the fire. I was so relieved, I thought they were dead.”
Vihelm28 @ 9:46:
I’ve got to stick up for Rafael with regard to the second goal. He wasn’t “ball watching” but was defending the far post. Unfortunately – for him andUTD – TheLadyBoy’s cross to Mata was perfectly positioned ( five yards beyond the far post) while Mata’s late, blind-side run/volley were also perfect since the sequence essentially cut out the UTD defenders.
When the other guys score such a beauty-goal you have to accept that not everything is going to go UTD’s way, all the time. If you still want to apportion “blame” then divide it between Evra ( who gave TheLadyBoy too much time/space ), Antonio Valencia/Michael Carrick ( who let Juan Mata have a free run into open space ), and Rafael ( who wasn’t in two places at the same time ).
if i’m not mistaken, isn’t that the first penalty we’ve had given to us at either Chelsea, Arseanal, or Loserpool since 1999? IN ALL COMPETITIONS, and they say United pay the refs…. lol
@AK47 that means we’ve used up our quota for the next 13 years too.
King Eric…hehehe
King Eric…i m boring, but that is gonnna cost us…remember what i say. It is gonna cost us a lot of mils…missing good players..
Lots of man utd players coming back from injury, must be a good sign from above.
Who saw how cahil breathed a sigh of relief when he noticed that the calls for a penalty din’t go utd’s way. It was that close, and they say webb favours man utd.