1. That was the best United performance for months. Newcastle had lost one game at home in 2012 and today we bossed them. We started the game brilliantly, at long last, and even when Newcastle started to come back in to the game, we managed to stop them from scoring. The ten minutes leading up to half-time were vital, with Newcastle looking more confident, so to go in 2-0 up was crucial. Sir Alex Ferguson picked the right players in the right formation to get the job done and it was great to watch.
2. Both full-backs were excellent defensively and offensively today, which is not something you get to say too often. Ben Arfa, who is clearly very tricky and talented, was kept out of the game. Whilst Rafael da Silva has gone from strength to strength this season, showing himself to be a competent defender as well as being impressive on the attack, Patrice Evra has been poor. Today, whilst he was caught out of position once or twice, for the most part he was spot on. The goal was just the icing on the cake. It’s not often you see Evra dashing in to the penalty area to get his head on the end of a cross and it’s even more rare to see his attempt end up in the back of the net.
3. Rio Ferdinand and Jonny Evans were also solid at the back again today. After receiving criticism for being outpaced by Bale last weekend, Rio was back to his best and Evans also managed to cap his performance with a goal. It was an excellent ball in from Robin van Persie and a top header from Evans. It looked just like the kind of goal we concede all too regularly. It’s rare that we’d get two goals from corners and maybe that tells us who should be on corner taking duties. Hint: not Nani or Giggs.
4. The Man of the Match award went to Wayne Rooney and that was justified. He played deep and in Paul Scholes’ absence was dictating the pace of the game. Since returning from his injury he looks very sharp. All he is missing now is a goal. A player who rivalled him for the best on the pitch today was Tom Cleverley who looked very comfortable in our midfield. Ahead of kick-off, looking at the likes of Gutierrez, Tiote and Cabaye in Newcastle’s midfield, there was the worry we’d be overrun, as we so usually are, in the centre of the park. We got it just right today and Cleverley really looked to be enjoying himself. He scored our third goal and it was a beauty. Did he mean it? Van Persie was taking up a good position in the box so there was the suggestion he was trying to get in a cross. Who cares, it will go probably go down as our best goal of the month.
5. Amongst all the positives, Danny Welbeck will be disappointed he didn’t get his name on the scoresheet today. He just isn’t clinical enough in front of goal at times and that is incredibly frustrating. He does all the hard work, hassles and harries the opposition, gets himself in to brilliant positions, but he just seems to lose his nerve at the last minute. With just over ten minutes played he should have been on his hattrick. The first chance came after a brilliant ball from Cleverley was brought down by Van Persie, backheeled on nicely by Evans, only for Welbz to scuff his shot. Soon afterwards, he forced Harper in to losing possession and had an open goal to aim at. He wasn’t even close though. His work ethic is great and when his finishing comes, he’ll be pretty unstoppable. Patience.
6. Shinji Kagawa had a fairly anonymous game out on the right but was only filling in for Antonio Valencia, who came off the bench to show he has recovered from his injury which saw him leave training on crutches a couple of weeks ago.
7. On a different day, we might have been made to pay the price for some indecision from De Gea. He should be our first choice keeper, he is the best one we’ve got and we’ve got to be patient with him. But after a good performance midweek, he seemed more nervous again today. He’s an easy target for opponents, who love to push in to him and pull on his shirt to put him off. Too often he was caught flapping instead of just taking charge of the situation. Post match, Ferguson said he was happy with his performance though. The sooner we stop this stupid rotation, the better.
8. Being entirely honest, I’m surprised by our performance today. Not because I haven’t thought we’re capable of playing like that, but because I haven’t been able to work out why it took us weeks in the season to put in a shift like we did in the second half against Spurs. We have some fantastic players but you just start to wonder how long it’s going to take to click, and if/when it does click, whether it will be good enough and not too late to make a difference. We picked up where we left off against Spurs, it was reassuring to see us play as we did today and I hope we get to see more of the same over the coming months.
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Nice to see the team playing hard right from the first kick!!
Damn, these reactions are so fast after we’ve won a game.
Well said. I wonder if playing without wingers will become a pattern from now on.
Good performance today. More of that please.
Newcastle are no pushover so 3 points against them at St James is a highly credible result.
All United’s players did well today but special plaudits to Evra who for the first time in ages played really well intercepting passes and moving forward with real menace time and time again.
Raphael on the right also impressed and once Valencia went on it was game only.
If only Danny could really hammer the ball like really hammer it what a player he would be.
Well done United. C’mon the boys.
I think the team is gelling nicely. I think it’s wise that Scholes and Giggsy be used sparingly and only to close the game down towards the end. We need to give players like Clevs and Ando a run in the team (barring injuries).
For me Rooney seems ideal for the Scholes role to pull the strings and cover every blade of grass.
Newcastles had this coming. On our day we play superbly and we don’t give a damn who’s at home. Tiote, cabaye, guiterez, ben harfa all looked ordinary today because our players showed them up to be just that. It’s when we allow the opposition to take the initiative that such players start looking world class which they are not.
anyone have any news on what happened with van persie elbow incident? i missed it, and i’ve only seen ABUs on twitter bang on about it, was it bad and could he be banned?…could be bad with chelsea away coming up.
Great to see that for once we were the ones pressuring in midfield,forcing mistakes from opponents.
Tiote is a dick head
@mo maybe if people like you keep highlighting it he will get banned just shut up!!!
Quality performance and result,great defending from front to back Excellent
A positive performance and an excellent result.
Yes, patience with Welbz and DDG, get off their backs people!!! Neither of them has been given a run of games in the team, so you can expect inconsistency. The same for Ando too. I feel the criticisms leveled at these players are rather unfair.
@markyboy will do
On DDG, I think the return to keeping in league heightened nerves for him – everytime he’s kept out and comes back, it will be like a fresh return, and eyes back on him. For someone of his age, and talent, it was a bad idea to drop him rather than let him go from strength to strength and build confidence and belief that he can keep in the league. No harm in rotation, but it came much too soon in the season and it rattled him in this game. I’d give him a sustained run and he’ll be fine – he’s all in all, a better keeper than Lindegaard already for me, and he can only get better!
Fergie got it tactically spot on. Against the power of tiote and craft of cabaye, we needed box to.box energy. Michael carrick was superb, sitting and mopping everything up with his reading of the game and intelligent tackling and interception. Hope to see more of that but the legs around him helped.
Cleverley really has stepped his game up. Maybe the flak he got for missing chances for england and the hair-dryer he got from fergie has fired him up. He looks bullish and ready for the premier league battle. Energetic, box to box, passing was short, neat/tidy, knits play with the forwards and bagged a brilliant goal. Hope he continues that.
Where’s that idiot that claimed rooney isn’t united quality?. Wayne was outstanding today. Playmaking masterclass. Inventive with key passes, drove forward with power and gusto, he put in a great defensive shift too. All round brilliant performance to follow the one against cluj. First and foremost, he’s still a fantastic forward but with all our strikers, we can utilise wayne’s ability in that number 10 role in some games or a midfield general. Looks slimer sharper Hope to see that benefit united.
Evra was top class, probably his best performance for a long long time. Defended well, looked more focused and scored a rare header but this is one game, can’t get all excited about an upturn in form. We shall see.
The entire back four looked more solid. If you told me united would keep a clean sheet against ba, cisse, ben arfa and cabaye, I would recommend you see a shrink due the fact we’ve looked unconvincing at the back but this an improvement I hope continues, consistent selection of defence helps as wel. Rafael particularly keeps improving and impressing me. looks solid defensively, adding to his brazilian attacking instincts.
De gea yet again displayed why he’s better than lindegaard. Still gotta work on improving but he has the potential to be a world class keeper and should be number 1.
Welbeck did everything good until it came to putting the ball in the net. Needs more work on his composure but his all round game is exactly why he gets in the team but I feel his goal scoring will improve.
Kagawa was quiet today, showing signs that he’ll need time to fully adapt to the league but he’s a top player, hopefully he’ll shine further more this season
And also, fergie used scholes well, brought him on in the final stages in which battling in midfield isn’t relevant, his class is useful to control the tempo.
Generally pleased and delighted about a performance I was hoping for but not expecting. We looked to add the graft to our craft. Creativity is not an issue, we just have to balance everything and we did that today.
Don’t underestimate the confidence the team will get from this and I hope that continues.
One KEY player really upped his game today – he had been weak and making some silly errors and was being complacent.
That key player had a wake up call it seems and today was a delight to watch.
That Key player was SAF
Nice to see he has found his form again – He needed to up his own energy so the team is energised again.
Good to see Evans on the scoresheet. Lad has been getting unnecessary sticks from idiotic portion of the fans saying he’s not United quality and all and he’s all in his 24 years old.
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@Raizzen
Good to see anyone score but Evans needs to boss some big front men in his role as a defender to win many of us over still. He can look a bit scared and timid against big hard fast strikers.
As for “only 24″ Im sorry, but that isnt an excuse or an explanation. He is a fully grown man and has a lot of years already behind him and is a full International.
24-28 years old is his athletic prime so its now or never really.
Raizzen – you can’t help but sigh at these people.
Rooney did deserve man of the match, he’s looking sharper every game and played some good football in CM. Spot on about Evra as well, he had a top game and it goes to show how much tactics determine his performances. Being winger-less meant Evra wasn’t required to get forward as much so he stuck closer to Evans and kept supporters happy. For what its worth, nobody can name 3 LB’s in world football who have performed better over the last 2 “shite” seasons anyway, so Evra remains class for me.
Cleverley continues to impress, he’s a quality midfielder in the making. I thought Carrick showed his class in todays formation and actually looked more comfortable in possession than usual. It helps having other CM’s behind him when he had the ball. Some fans think players are robots but the manager’s tactics have a big role in how they play, and it showed today.
Can’t say I was surprised though. One look at the CM’s we have and its obvious our Squad is being upgraded to keep better possession. The EPL is getting better and better, so we can’t rely on wingers alone to beat every team. Of course we can win games with 2 CM’s but we need the flexibility to bench both wingers and still grab 3 points. The way football in general is going I think the days of rigid formations and line-ups are over.
Ferguson is the game’s best strategist and everybody raves about his man-management skills so im always surprised at how quickly people question his POSITION at the Club. The backlash over last weekend was nonsense, especially when the first goal was a deflection. People banged on about him being stubborn but he soon replaced Giggs just like he replaced Nani at LIverpool, and don’t forget he dropped Rooney when it was the right thing. He’s a hard headed so and so but I wouldn’t call Alec stubborn to a fault, he’s not.
At the end of the day he must to be free to make changes, and that means he must also be free to make the odd mistake as well. Supporters should expect more “random” line ups this season, but the funny thing is if we LOST today people would be calling the manager “crazy” for experimenting! Fergie is damned either way tbh but nobody can deny we were class today, and I’d rather we peak at the right time than have a bright start and fade out. Fergie’s timing is second to none, we’ll get stronger as the season goes on im sure. We’ve got a solid Squad to chose from.
Fergie is 70, what bloody energy are you talking about now shinji?
@unitedtilidie
“The backlash over last weekend was nonsense, especially when the first goal was a deflection. People banged on about him being stubborn but he soon replaced Giggs just like he replaced Nani at LIverpool, and don’t forget he dropped Rooney when it was the right thing. He’s a hard headed so and so but I wouldn’t call Alec stubborn to a fault, he’s not. ”
Unfortunately, it was too late by then and he has to be as accountable as anybody for the team he selects. He knows he has fucked up and that gave him a much needed wake up call evidenced by today`s performance and readiness from the get-go.
Its good for fans to criticize when it is deserved to much slavish adulation isnt good for anyone`s hunger.
As regards him being “stubborn” – He just is.
I would have liked to hear what the manager said after a game on Match of the Day but because of his stubbornness he refused to speak to the BBC ever again til the Glazers told him to put it to bed before the flotation.
His stubbornness has led to players leaving – RVN – Roy Keane- Jaap Staam – a combination of stubbornness and petulance is probably his weakness.
To deny it exists is willful self-delusion.
Fergie took his stance and stood firm against those a.b.u cunts at the bbc, I commend him for that.
There are several outlets to hear or read his views, match of the day isn’t the be all and end all. Fergie hasn’t acbieved so much by bowing to bullshit and again, I commend him.
Call it stubborness or whatever, judging by his career, it’s has aided him more than it being an obstacle.
Utd till I die – you’re spot on with your comments about the game and fergie.
I don’t think that our system can ever become a diamond without wingers… I don’t know how anyone can agree with that but anyways… Valencia and Young in the team make our football much more dangerous and difficult for opponents to attack right?
Still not convinced by kagawa and clev – both were poor defensively – probably prefer to see anderson and fletcher with Nani in for welbeck in a starting eleven – more muscle more pace and an ability to carry the ball
SHINJI
Of course Ferguson is stubborn, point out somebody alive who isn’t in some way stubborn (ffs)
I said I wouldn’t describe Ferguson as stubborn TO A FAULT.
Do you know what that means? It means the little list you’ve got is insignificant to his achievements as a manager. Course he’s stubborn, but as the most successful manager in football its not to a fault is it?
“Wilful self-delusion” my arse.
@samuel
He indulged himself ahead of the fans – United as a club were happy enough to take their share of the £1.8billion for domestic broadcasting from the BBC.
I doubt the BBC was ever going to crumble because of his absence but for many fans it was embarrassing to have that Dimwit Phelan representing the club.
Any perceived grievance was a personal matter between Fergie and the BBC – If he felt that strongly about it he should have sued them rather than go on a 7 year sulk.
The disproportionate reaction comes across as weakness. A man who is incapable of forgiveness is a weak man ruled by grudges not thoughts.
Is that 5 assists in 3 games for Wayne now? This new deeper role seems to suit him; midfield looks more energetic with Cleverley in it; Welbz poor finishing is all in his mind – he is thinking too much about how to score and hesitating needlessly; could have been 5 or 6 nil today; exciting times at United!
@Unitedtilidie
Its all a matter of degree.
If you think he isnt stubborn or that stubborness is a good thing then thats your prerogative.
I shall not list them here but there are many many millions of people who arent stubborn.
Do not mistake stubbornness with conviction or resilience.
Also, I do not attributre true greatness in a man to the amount of cups he won as a manager or the amount of money he has earned. Other things are far more important like how he conducts himself throughout his life and the compassion he demonstrates along with a selfless attitude to others.
But if cups trumps all that for you then I will not argue with you. Yes he has won a lot of cups.
samuel – united WE stand says:
Fergie is 70, what bloody energy are you talking about now shinji?
Im talking about the enough energy to get off the bench.
Im talking about enough energy to take training.
Im talking about enough energy to fire a team up BEFORE a game.
I dont have a problem with his age unless his age starts to be a problem.
Do you think he is at his peak now or still has to reach his peak.
Or could it just possibly be, like all mortals, he is actually in decline ?
Or are we not allowed to even suggest that he is in decline and getting worse rather than getting better?
@Samuel – cheers mate. Agree with what you said about Welbeck. Fair enough he has to do better than his first shot, and he needed to see RVP after he rounded the keeper. But otherwise he didn’t put a foot wrong. The goals will come, but im happy to see him linking up so effortlessly with the team, some of those touches and one twos were class. Evans was another who impressed me. With Vidic out his partnership with Rio is the real reason we kept a clean sheet. As much as United are known for attacking, we’ve always had a solid back four and keeper. Smalling should be back soon and Jones won’t be too far behind. With more options in defence we’ll start seeing some real consistency from the lads.
@Voice of Reason – Kagawa was played in a wide position to be fair mate, but his passing was still class imo. Apparently he has winger experience in Germany but thats yet to be seen here. Its still early days for him, so at least he’s impressed centrally behind the striker. Don’t forget we’re used to Valencia and Nani making an impact on our flanks so Kagawa always had a tough task today. I disagree about Cleverley tho. We know he can pass and move but I thought he also showed he was a tough lad today, especially after Tiote stood on his shin. Tom had a good game, I only remember one big mistake in the second half in our box (shit happens) but other than that he was solid imo.
Shinji – you need to lighten up mate. Christ.
SHINJI THE NINJA
Are you actually a Manchester
United supporter or do you just come on here to slag off the greatest manager the game has ever seen. I don’t have a problem with fans questioning his tactics or team selection as long as its done with the respect he deserves. As for his personality, well managing Manchester United is not a popularity contest, it’s about results and yes winning trophies and even in his 70s I see no reason to think anything has changed.
SHINJI THE NINJA says:
Or are we not allowed to even suggest that he is in decline and getting worse rather than getting better?
^Suggest what you want but nobody has to agree with you. You’re free to have an opinion and others are free to opine that you’re talking out your arse. It works both ways.
Imo the idea Ferguson is in decline is nonsense. He could yet win another European Title before he retires, and if he does that could be described as his best ever.
You’re free to have the opinion that Fergie in decline, but don’t expect people to accept it as a FACT because its not a fact is it? Its just your opinion.
@Redneck – I think he’s a wum mate. Not a very good one, mind you.
the “innocent” luis suarez took diving to new levels today….
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/10/confirmed-lfc-line-up-vs-stoke-city.html
NANI not being on the pitch probably helped,i think he sets a frustrating style of play for us with the other players getting as annoyed as the fans!!there was a nice blend in the team today with a real attacking presence i hope we kick on from here with a great run,its that time of year!!!UP THE REDS
As soon as anyone dare suggest anything other than “Fergie is God – United are Perfect – Rooney is World class” you get pounced on by the feeble minded and asked for your credentials as a true red.
It really is beyond pathetic – do you all lack reassurance and validation in your real lives or something that you have to hold hands and say “I love everything about United and anyone who doesnt always say everything is perfect all the time is a troll”
Can I remind you deluded fuckers that we won absolutely FUCK ALL last year – not a fucking thing.
I actually DO blame Ferguson for that as we had a lead and HE FUCKING BLEW IT
Or did I miss something against Everton and against the pathetic team and tactics at City ???
FYI – I assumed that when I received my season ticket for the SE this year and the fact it was now “Gold” actually signified that I maybe am a “real fan” despite the manager calling me otherwise because unlike him I dont think the Glazers are “great owners”
@United Till I Die
don’t know why people say cleverley was good but not great, for me he did everythign and he made only one mistake as you mentioned.
he played great today and to top it all he scored a screamer . So what do you want more`?
Someone mentioned that they don’t think that United will become wingerless, well I can see that, we just have to bring the right players through the ranks or buy some prospects. Our history is with wingers, but maybe it’s time to adapt to the game rather than the game to adapt with us.
Anyway, I said before the game that it’s a win for us, and the way it comed, was better than I expected. Very happy with the performance.
I just hope, we could play total football like in the first 20 minutes for 70-90 minutes. But it’s still a new formation so that said, we did very good. Rooney looks sharp, and RVP is RVP he can score at any moment, just that today after his yellow card he didn’t look comftortable anymore. That’s football..
Just waiting that we could exploy Kagawas and RVP’s strenght mroe in the future. Can’t wait that the international brake is off.
peace.
SHINJI THE WINGER
Boo hoo, poor little princess, didn’t big bad Fergie win you anything last season, oh dear. Spoilt prick.
One thing about this stupideness, I don’t know if SHINJI THE NINJA is a troll or what. Maybe he is, and maybe sometimes he is in point for some things.
JUST that, when you critisize SAF you can critisise the tactics or the formations that he makes, but slating him and saying he should go, he is shit, didn’t do anything last year etc, it’s plain stupid.
He is in his last years, still getting us result and freshing our team up, by bringing promising players, for the future. SO show some respect for what he has done for us.
For me if you say he is senile, or stupid etc. Well for me, do and say what you want cause he isn’t my father or anything for me related.
BUT. If you do bash him in that way, well that has nothing to do with football and it’s VEEERy annoying and plain crazy. It tells alot about the person that writes such things.
peace.
TheLeftBank @ 18:59: “Rooney seems ideal for the Scholes role to pull the strings and cover every blade of grass.”
Actually, I’d put the matter differently – “we haven’t seen a box-to-box display like that since the great Keane-o was in his pomp, about ten years ago”.
Shinji – personally I couldn’t give a toss if you sat in Ferguson’s lap at OT.
This isn’t about “blind” followers, this is about backing up your opinions in an open forum. You reckon Ferguson is on the decline but theres sod all evidence for that. Last season was not the first time we’ve finished empty handed so thats hardly proof of decline is it? Neither is losing two games against Everton and Spurs funnily enough.
So type what you want but don’t moan when people shoot holes in your argument. You have no leg to stand on saying Ferguson is in decline, especially after a convincing 3-0 against a full strength Newcastle at their ground. You must admit thats some fucking result for a so-called Club in decline?
What I liked best about today’s match – apart from the result/clean sheet – was the speed of play in the first twenty minutes.
It’s been a long while since SAF has sent out TheLads with a remit to pass-and-move in that kind of interchangeable fashion. It really was a joy to behold.
More, please.
No matter what you say about DeGea, he made a mistake but completed the save that kept us in the game.
A goal? No way, the hole ball didn’t cross the line.
If it was the opposite, I still would say it isn’t a goal, though maybe at the heat of the game I would.
DeGea saved our ass again. He could have conceded but he did this and composed himself.
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“Danny Welbeck will be disappointed he didn’t get his name on the scoresheet today. He just isn’t clinical enough in front of goal at times and that is incredibly frustrating. He does all the hard work, hassles and harries the opposition, gets himself in to brilliant positions, but he just seems to lose his nerve at the last minute. With just over ten minutes played he should have been on his hattrick”
No kidding, as I said already many times, sorry, but he’s not good enough yet to represent us as a striker.. he hesitates, runs straight into walls of defenders, trips over his own feet, choses the wrong pass, lingers on the ball and get’s tackled or has the ball taken away etc. ..just way too frustrating.. I think we need to offload him on loan to see if a steady run of games will improve his performance.
We’re not too critical of him because we won, but had we lost there would have been more finger pointing. This isn’t just about his game today.
Cleverly.. no way that was a shot
Was super happy to see that float into the top corner, but it’s obvious what he was trying to do. He put in a good shift though. .. Would like to see him more getting stuck in and chasing the opposition to win the ball back.
Scholes – that’s EXCACTLY when we need to use Scholes. See the game out, not staring a game.
Overall, glad to see the 3 points, but we need to keep the tempo as mentioned, when we dropped.
Still think It’s going to be an uphill battle for us this year to get anything.
I wonder what a midfield of Rooney, Carrick, Anderson would look like?
@We Are United – the team will keep adapting and changing mate I don’t think we’ll stay winger-less for long. Its important for Ferguson to develop alternative formations to unlock certain teams and out-fox others. The thing is he can only experiment in competitive games, and he has to keep winning games, so its a balance at this stage of the season to get the whole Squad firing.
I like the idea of 2 subs changing the entire shape of our team, we could’ve done with a dramatic plan B during our last 2 Champions League finals. We’ve got the players to recreate ourselves each week, or at half time, so why not experiment with what we have? Ferguson played a blinder today.
I suggest that some of you read fhe thread and take ALL that I said in context.
The fans have to be allowed to criticize the manager.
I do say what I think is worthy of criticism, eg playing Rafael in midfield last year. eg forgetting to designate a penalty taker. eg playing for a draw at City last year. eg allowing Rooney a lot of extra time off and seeing he was overweight yet still playing him.
Treating Berbatov so poorly after he was top scorer and then saying he didnt fit in with our style of play Duh? you bought him ?? Starting with some of the combinations that so obviously didnt work eg Giggs on the right against Tottenham.
Constantly changing just for the sake of change and permanently tinkering.
Saying that he didnt take the quals seriously in last years CL ?? Really, well can I have my money back then.
Sorry guys but there really are these reasons and many more to show that this is a manager who has been in decline but you all want to pretend he NEVER does a single thing wrong ever.
Can someone tell me the last BIG game that was actually important and against a good team that we went out and won convincingly ??
If I am not mistaken it was against Arsenal in the CL semis.
So, how about correcting me if I am wrong.
Great performance from the team, Newcastle away is always tough but the ealy goal was key. Was unbelievable to see Evra stick with the back four like he should and showed just how much that helps our defence. De Gea rightly back in goal but his nervousness is making him hesitant when claiming a cross and its gona bite us at osome stage, he just needs to commit to his decisions
Fair point United Till I Die, of course it’s better to have a lot of plans, I have been used for 15 years that United plays with wings so it would be hard for me too and starnge to see oru team like that.
But, for me we have to bring players that are able to play the “barcelona” formation. Maybe not at the Ferguson era yet, but after him? Never know. We’ll see.
Shinji the ninja : fergie’s won more trophies than you can count. lay off him. Man knows a thing or two about football. certainly more than you. let him do his job and stop annoying everyone for god sake.
@SHINJI THE NINJA
you know, you made some fair points for me. absolutely correct wit all those, and yes he makes mistakes, but because our team we can get results.
Just that, don’t go slating (maybe you haven’t said this) but alot have been like, SAF out, he is old, he’s stupid etc. Give him his last years and you will see the results. People will miss SAF after he retires, and I bet my right hand that when the new manager makes mistakes, we will miss SAF.
In one thing I don’t agree with you. We have won big games, against City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool. It’s just that it was so close to win last year and we don’t remember anything of those wins- They were important at that momen, but didn’t pay off for the last games.
In that sense I disagree.
Shinji the ninja : here’s a few important games against important teams for ya
arsenal 8-2
city 3-2 (community shield)
spurs 3-0 away
chelsea 3-1 home
spurs 3-0 home ( i think)
city 3-2 (f.a cup)
pool 2-1 home.
@Adam – Welbeck doesn’t need to be offloaded imo. No goals in 5 apps isn’t great but its his link up play and movement that keeps him in the team. We forget he’s a young striker still developing his game, and imo his passing and movement began improving over the course of last season. Being an all out goal-scorer has never been enough at United anyway, we need our strikers to link up play and Welbeck does that tbf. Besides, its not like we’ve never seen him in the “poacher” role before – the goals will come.
Until then, based on his all-round contributions I think he’s warranted every appearance he’s made since August. He’ll get better as the season progresses, especially once RVP finds him more often. All our strikers need to form partnerships, and Danny/Robin are developing an understanding. Far too early to show anybody the door.
^ Against CHelski in CL semis.
*ffs.
Shinji: I would say cl quarter against Chelsea and the EPL game against Chelsea on OT, when we were dominating and pretty much won the league that day. But agree on the other parts, SAF fucked up last year and if people can’t see that they are just delusional like some of our bitter rivals. SAF have been brilliant at times and not so brilliant at others, but I don’t think any manager can be spot on _every_ game.The worst fans imo are actually those who are so blinded by their faith that they can’t even see anything wrong and bash others opinion. Sure there are fans who are too critical and try to find everything wrong also.
People being spoiled? I thought Manchester United was the biggest club in the world, shouldn’t we win everything _every_ year then? Is it not all about winning? Why even play if not to win? In one sense fans keep saying we are so big and better than everyone else, but when we dont win they say we are being spoiled. You can’t have it both ways. We won nothing last year and that’s a failure and not like United, it has nothing to do with being spoiled or not.Of course there will be times when you don’t win, its football after all.
SHINJI THE NINJA says:
Can someone tell me the last BIG game that was actually important and against a good team that we went out and won convincingly ??
^haha TODAY you muppet!!
For everybody blaming last season on Alex, what about Rooney?
Fair enough the manager got the selection wrong at City, but surely Rooney got it wrong turning up drunk at a pivotal point in the season?
Who is more to blame? The manager who got his tactics wrong for one must win game (City) or the star player who let his whole team down by being immature and selfish?
Its a moot point anyway, as neither Ferguson or Rooney were responsible for us not winning the 20th.
Our biggest problem last season was INJURY and anybody who conveniently forgets how many missing players we had is completely delusion.
How anybody can argue FEGIE had a worse effect on our campaign than all those injuries is fucking beyond me. I give up.
evisu
we should win everything all the time? sure, when your rivals spend hundreds of millions season after season to try topple you. we are the best, but it took us years to knock pool off their fucking perch. just because we’re the best don’t make us invincible.
SHITZU JUJITSU
Throwing up on the forum floor is frowned upon. Get a grip.
Pardew needs to fuck off.
Quote about Danny Welbeck
“His work ethic is great and when his finishing comes, he’ll be pretty unstoppable. Patience”
I’m sorry, but you either have the ability to finish or you don’t, this lad clearly doesn’t have it. Hernandez, who is more a natural goalscorer has been pushed down the pecking order and to be honest I feel he deserves better, he either needs to move on or risk becoming another Berbatov, a wasted talent that’s just warming the bench.
Put Cole, Owen, Shearer and dare I say his name on here Fowler in the same position and 9 times out of 10 the ball would be in the back of the net, and yes I have chosen the more natural english finishers and not foreigners.
Evisu
You say SAF fucked up last year,really! I don’t suppose for a minute that you would consider finishing second despite of an unbelievable amount of injuries was actually a fantastic achievement. I can tell you that even in the years between 1969 and 1992 Manchester United were one of the biggest and best supported clubs in world football. The fans of united in that time didn’t have much to brag about other than a hand full of FA cups , a league cup and a cup winners cup, (three of those under SAF) those fans weren’t spoilt by the amazing success that some have come to expect. So fucking what if we don’t win the league every year. We support a club with a unique history and heritage, it’s a shame some people can’t be happy with that.
@Shinji.
I sure find your personality admirable. Daring to stand against the crowd. Fucking great! If most of us here would Speak true, most of shinji’s arguments are true. The fucking bulls eye!!
I may not have come on here to speak my mind about our abject first half performance againts spurs last week(and I’m sure I’m not the only one who chose to groan silently), but right from seeing the teamsheet, I knew there was trouble on the way. There are many more examples of SAF’s fuck-ups a lot of which shinki has highlighted. Bottomline is SAF is not God.
I obviously have a different idea of what consitutes a big game.
A Champions League Final against Barcelona is a big game – Playing City at the Empithead for the title decider is a big game.
Not Arsenal 8-2 at the beginning of last year when it didnt really matter or against Newcastle today away.
For me, they were nice wins for sure but not my idea of a BIG game and as regards Liverpool – They are a second rate club stuck in a rut of past achievements so not a BIG game for me either.
This all started because my first post stated that I was happy to see Fergie re-energised today and putting in a managerial performance – It got pounced on and twisted as usual into explaining what the hell I meant by “energy referring to a 70 year old.
Then all the bandwagon jumpers who love to give a verbal kicking to anyone who doesn`t follow the “Gospel of the Devoted”
So let me ask a question – ” At what point does somebody intervene if Fergie finishes empty handed again this year” Is that OK too ? because of previous seasons triumphs. Maybe give him another year after that so he doesnt finish on a downer – or maybe we let him just carry on writing his own contract for ever and ever.
I dont think sentimentality has a place in a succesful football club and I think we, as fans, have a part to play in making sure that we keep fresh and full of ambition not comfortable and complacent.
These are just my opinions – I back them up with examples but too many people have been burying their heads and accepting the PL as our benchmark.
I think we need to be comparing ourselves with the best in Europe and beating them – We used to do that now we delude ourselves that we have a squad that can take on Madrid or Barca or Bayern or Juve or lots of others.
Time will tell.
Redial
As bottom lines go, that’s pear-shaped.
Dreaded Red
Well, pear-shaped or otherwise, it’s still a line. SAF got it right today. And I think what shinji is talking about is this tendency for other fans on ROM to attack anyone who dares criticize SAF (and thus leading to my bottom line). I believe even SAF himself would not appreciate much a person who always agrees with him on all issues(I surely would not). Criticism is good if it’s constructive. Slavish compliance breeds autocracy and it’s many ills.
Utd till I die – that’s what some people don’t get, the modern game requires that have several aspects to their style apart from goals, welbeck offers exactly that. Work rate, first touch, skill, holds up play e.t.c but right now, his inexperience is making him freeze when a chance arrives. For me, the positives are that he’s getting in position to score, he’ll soon be finding the net. You have to take the fact he’s now fighting a tough battle for a place in the team, that brings an eagerness to impress (which he did) but lost all composure which I feel will come as he plays with top players. Welbeck is crucial to the new style, he’s technically very good and with your knowledge of the game, you can see his contribution and potential, more so than others.
I agree about the defence. We need consistency at the back, hoping we get fortune keeping them fit. Smalling is a top defender, his potential return to the first team would go some way to helping united but I’m particularly happy to see rafael impress. 100 appearances now? And that really has helped. He’s gathering games and has been superb both defensively and attacking wise. Main man for the right back spot now.
We played well for the first twenty minutes. Popping the ball around Newcastle. Getting the two goals killed us we stopped pressing, passing, playing positive, making triangles and all that good stuff. Fergie made the change to bring on Valencia stopping their fullbacks at least ten minutes too late. Not as bad as Newcastle taking so long to realise the space was wide … DERP. I dont like us playing without width. Our midfield is a different animal with Tom Cleverley’s energy, guile, passing and movement. I’d still like to see Carrick or Fletcher holding behind Anderson and Cleverly. We need a midfield animal in place for next season … Fellaini. Its time for Giggs and Scholes to be retired.
Wow.
The youngest, most dynamic squad in the PL and you wums want to harp on about Sir Alex getting a few line ups wrong?
Go support another team if this one isn’t to your liking. Simple as.
The team sheet was right. The attitude was right. The season is on track. All due to Sir Alex.
Seriously. You wums do not know better than Sir Alex. Shame on you for your misplaced anger. This isn’t a video game that allows you to win every game. This is real life. And Sir Alex has done, and continues to do, a masterclass managerial job better than anyone in the history of the game. Simple.
Fergie is not perfect and most fans know that but his contributions to this club gives him the chance to get the benefit of the doubt. You can criticise the manager or player but At least post something credible, not utter bullshit.
Wee tom – agreed with your sentiment.
“People being spoiled? I thought Manchester United was the biggest club in the world, shouldn’t we win everything _every_ year then? Is it not all about winning? Why even play if not to win? In one sense fans keep saying we are so big and better than everyone else, but when we dont win they say we are being spoiled. You can’t have it both ways. We won nothing last year and that’s a failure and not like United, it has nothing to do with being spoiled or not.Of course there will be times when you don’t win, its football after all.”
Says he isn’t spoilt and then post this. We had a wonderful win today but all you read is negativity. Too many people spend time playing video games. No club has the given right to win everything each year, europen/world football is not filled with pub teams.
I’m going to ignore Pardew’s comments because the way Tiote was behaving I was shocked he wasn’t sent to an early shower.
So whatever, I’d rather focus on how absolutely brilliant we were today. Thrilling to watch, especially the opening exchanges when the one-two touch football was flowing, and apart from some slightly nervous finishing we could’ve had a tennis score today, so to speak.
More please!
Again with the slating people ? Nothing to back it up or to say why you disagree just abusive and dismissive.
Whats utter Bullshit for example ? Did we win something last year ? If all you are happy with is what we won a few years ago then you may as well be a scouser. Gazing back at past glory is not what TRUE fans do. Like Roy Keane said – You are only as good as your last season – Well last season we were boring to watch, abysmal in the CL and frankly handed those Blue cunts a trophy they should never have had.
But absolutely nobody is responsible for that I guess.
But hey, wasnt 1999 great ! We can just watch re-runs of that I suppose and say we`ll never die every now and again.
I dont think many realise exactly how precarious our current situation may become if certain glaring weaknesses arent addressed. We really do have too many ordinary players clogging up the squad these days.
Where`s Bebe these days ?
Redial
There’s also a tendency for fans on RoM to rush in and blurt scathing nastiness about those we hold dear. Their intended reaction is some rebuke from us, so that they can self-righteously blare and bawl about their right to criticise.
Actually, fair criticism is well-received on RoM, and excitedly discussed.
Showing any level of disrespect to our loved ones is likely to irk. Contentious views don’t need pimping, they can be presented in a mild manner. Then they stand or fall. Instead of discussing the right to criticise, sensible opinions on the actual matter at hand could be offered.
Shiji – really, you don’t need to carry the whole burden of United on your shoulders! My lord, you would think all it would take would for someone to hire you as consultant to United and we’d be winning everything in sight. There are obviously more knowledgeable and experienced people than you and I running the club – let them run it will you! To have an opinion is fine, but cut out this “I dont think many realise exactly how precarious our current situation may become” bullshit like you see something that what sound like muppets running United don’t see! Take it easy, its football, enjoy it from your armchair!
Today was the day the 3 player player with “EV” in their last name all scored.
A sign from the Gods.
Shinji muppet – no manager is perfect, a great manager is who corrects problems and achieves success in the long term – the best example SAF.
You are fucking BORING which your shit abouy SAF, you can’t talk about the game then fuck off you silly bitch, your long repetitive irrelevant posts are wasting space.
On topic – ClEVerly, – damn !!! Pass or goal shot, how great as that, the boy has desire that puts others to shame, he wants to be the best so bad you can smell the rubber burn.
EV players, take a bow, one negative, the service to RVP could have been better, Welbeck just needs to relax infront of goal, he tenses, his body tenses and he shoots badly, but the ability is there. He is only what 20?
Vidic back soon, Rio than you for playing not so great last week to avoid England call up. Normal service resumed.
Hmmm.
United is 2nd in the PL on goal difference.
Blooded in 2 CB, 2 CM, and every position is covered by someone under the age of 25.
United will win trophies with this squad. They will press on for CL if the youngsters continue to progress. What other team can claim to have a blend of senior players with experience and young, qualified players at every position.
Some teams take years to rebuild. United finishes 2nd on goal difference in the toughest league on the planet and you wums want Sir Alex out?
Disgraceful. You are not a fan if you truly believe the drivel you spout on this blog. Only a wum would call for Sir Alex to step down with such hate and disrespect as you.
Bit drunk. Carry on.
Last point on Sir Alex for today …
He picked a spot on starting XI.
Every single player switched on from the first kick and out played a very good team. No Giggs and Scholes starting. No Nani to slow things down.
Three points that United did not get last year.
All thanks to Sir Alex.
Shinji – your delusion holds no bounds. fans constructively criticise, they describe how united can improve. You basically deem every member of the team useless, the manager isn’t good enough for you. You want the club winning everything.
For all SAF does to United, he can make one or one hundred mistakes, and I still respect him.
Manchester United are not a perfect club. We strive to be the best.
Ferguson is not perfect. He strives to be the best,rebuilt the club ,dragged us to the top and is keeping us there.
He has made mistakes . Its our right to criticise.He is the best manager in the game with only a few peers that come close.
Manutd supporters, the actual supporters , with a brain and a heart know he is human. We dont call him God. Thats another personal subject better discussed on another forum.
Football and the club we love , is very personal, emotional attachment and takes up so much of our lifes.
To see someone calling themselves supporters come in here on a day we got our act together this season , tearing into the manager , bringing up issues like BBC, Glazers , is just based on hate.
U may use good english and think ur smart but your hate shows right thru. Its easy to see u know nothing of football and our club with the childish and stupid comments u have made.
Shinji the Ninja sounds like mattbw . Just hate , nothing else.
R u having problems in yr personal life u need to come in here with yr need for a fight?
The readers that respond , fires u up to respond back , justifying yr hate ? What a sad cycle u live in.
If u do read my comments , and do decide to repond, how much effort ru going to put in to run me down, to run down everyone else in here?
sad fuck arent you?
well fucking hell, if we’re talking about his entire United career then of course SAF has had innumerable “fuck ups”, nobody would seriously deny that. He’s been here decades.
What pisses me off is people asking “if he’s still got it?” when its only October. Who the fuck are we, QPR? Its been two defeats ffs and only one was deserved, so where is the need to question whether the Scotsman is still suitable as United manager today?
We’ve all got opinions – Away at City Rooney should’ve started with Hernandez, Danny or Dimi, and Valencia should’ve started with Nani. All 6 could’ve started in a 4-3-3. ANYTHING would’ve been better than Giggs, Scholes and Park starting.
What makes it worse all three would’ve been perfect to bring on with 15 minutes to go. Instead we didn’t get a hold of the game despite having an inform Young, Welbeck and Valencia on the bench. They ended up playing less than an hour between them and Hernandez didn’t even warm up.
Im sure Ferguson had his reasons for starting the senior trio for their last Derby to win the League but it backfired. That defeat goes down as a managerial fuck up no doubt about it, but questioning if Fergie is still good enough when we’re sat level with the City and 4pts off Chelsea doesn’t make sense.
Of course he ain’t God, but that doesn’t mean supporters can list his rare fuck ups over the years and suddenly declare he isn’t fit to be manager today. Talk about self-deluded, look at the domestic and European tables and seriously tell me Ferguson isn’t up to the job.
@United Till I Die
nicely said,
And I think we can close this conversation in that comment you made, it sums all up.
So a great win, right? hahaha
jokes aside, I was really happy with Rooney, Evra and Cleverley. Not to mention Evans and Ferdinand and Rafael. DeGea was also good.
RVP played well and so did Welbeck. Valencia did his part same as scholes and Giggsy.
So basically what I am trying to say is, we played very good today and won 3-0, when last year we lost 3-0.
So let’s enjoy this moment, cause now we will go to a stupid brake, and have to wait for the next game. NExt is Stoke, and I’m afraid what we are gonna do to them.
GLORYGLORY
btw if someone has missed this, we are second, what’s the complain?
Chelsea 7 19
Man Utd 7 15
Man City 7 15
Everton 7 14
Tottenham 7 14
West Brom 7 14
Arsenal 7 12
West Ham 7 11
Fulham 7 10
Newcastle 7 9
Swansea 7 8
Stoke 7 8
Sunderland 6 7
Liverpool 7 6
Wigan 7 5
Aston Villa 7 5
Southamp 7 4
Reading 6 3
Norwich 7 3
QPR 7 2
All of my 4 points were answered last night:
1. GK: De Gea came back brilliantly with a clean sheet.
2. Def: Rio played with a lot of energy. And Evra! How god answered my prayer!
3. Mid: Giggs stayed at subs and give young blood Tom C a run. A brilliant run! What a GOAL! He fuuuuckin mean it!
4. FW: RVP+Rooney+Kagawa = Delicious!
Epic bounce back! All credit to Fergie!
You’d think, with some of the negativity here, that we lost 3-0 to Newcastle. Crikey, we won and some people just can’t stop criticising.
Yeah sure its ok to criticise players and the manager here, if one feels its deserved..And fine to equally stand up for them.. The beauty of ROM is that we can all get to voice our opinion in some way or another..
But I wouldn’t bet against SAF outlasting both city or chel managers based on results and success achieved( even with endless money at their disposal) coz he has been written off several times b4 and has proved people wrong by constantly coming back and producing succesful sides.
And overall in utd’s history he has done well in europe I would say!
And finally take real madrid for example.. With all their money to buy players and hire any manager they like and they have gone through several when was the last time they won the champions League? 02 i think
Personally I hope the man lives and carries on for another 100 years:)
The fb’s had electronics shock cock rings at practice this week. . Every time the past the center line, wam SHOCKED BALLS!!! It payed off today!
Rooney the team needs help in MF and can score plenty of goals, go play there and body up with a mad man. OK!
Great 3 points!!
Rafa real deal, he will star in the 14 WC!!
Clevs real impressive game!
Rio Evans solid game.
Rooney is a player!!
I wonder if SHINJI THE NINJA and the dude that trashes Rooney at every chance are trolls from Shitty or Looserpool. Every post they make are crap about how bad SAF and Rooney are for United. I dont post on here much mainly because I detest these trolls constantly spouting their nonsense. What is the new Manchester United blog that all of the older posters went to? I’m sick of all of the negative stuff and fighting on here. This used to be a great place for United supporters but with all of the negative crap on here, it has made it more of anti-United blog.
Really enjoyed watching the match. Its been a while since we’ve started playing properly right from the start, and a game where we were not bypassed in midfield.
Rooney and Cleverley stood out as most have pointed out. But Rafael was another one that played very well imo. He’s just getting better and better with each game, a benefactor of having sustained playing time. I’d like to think this is because Rafael has finally made the position his own and not due to a lack of cover atm – If Jones had been fit, I’m quite sure they would have been rotating as well, which may not have been such a good thing.
Kagawa was quiet, but Welbeck was disappointing. His work rate was good but he really needs to sort it out in his head. Would love to see him start scoring buckets with the chances he has.
The other thing is I feel Anderson should be given a sustained run in midfield – I still believe he can be quite a player. He probably would have done better than Kagawa in that position but it is so hard to leave an intelligent player like Kagawa out.
we get it, no one thinks that SAF is god and he too makes mistakes.but what we do as supporters is offer constructive criticism. there are many on the united hate bandwagon we do not need more within our own ranks and some of us do not blindly follow.when the team plays badly i will put up my hands and acknowledge that but to claim that SAF is useless and clueless is a tad alarmist, some of you sound like all the pundits and journo’s that year after year jump on the united are shit wagon…
its easy to be an armchair manager and manage from your couch, the same way that we sit at home and scream that our elected officials etc. should be doing better than what they are… and that so and so or ourselves could do better…some of your views are of course valid but some lack balance, it’s a bit early to be ringing the panic button…god forbid, but I’d still support a dodgy man united than any other team…coming to this site is starting to feel like I’m visiting an enemy site and not one where united supporters gather and share their views..
this is what supporters do, we support!!!!
This explains Scholes importance in a pretty concise manner:
http://www.quora.com/Manchester-United-F-C/Many-association-football-players-praise-Paul-Scholes-for-his-ability-to-control-the-game-including-Xavi-Iniesta-and-Zidane-What-exactly-does-Scholes-usually-do-to-control-the-game
Well said there, that on another day with different opposition De Gea is going to cost us big time. so much for he’s got talent, oh he distributes the ball well blah balahblah. I am yet ti see a convincing performance from him this season. what did Linde do bad to be rotated? he just played with poor defence last time out. People keep on harping on how ddg will be our long term no 1 But my gut tells me otherwise. Only time will tell but i when he’s found out it won’t be at the expense of the league or a cup final
That United performance WAS so great to see!
Everything else in Scott’s post.
United adopted the right attitude this time, but still we are very lucky that Cissé’s goal was not allowed, since at that time Newcastle was pushing and United would have been shattered at the back if that goal was counted since it would have given Newcastle a new life, and DDG seemed shaky with the aerial balls, and did not look confident at all.
@redrich You mean Sports Direct Arena? Sorry but my newcastle supporting mate hates it being called SDA and i know he reads this. Massive win given a loss would have really made us start chasing Chelsea
Fabulous win. Lots of positives have already been said.
I would like to spit on the shoes of several posters who have made this win and the days coming up to it rather sour. Continually saying we were crap, the manager was crap and we would be beaten. Even after one of the best wins, tactically and by way of execution, we’ve seen in a long time. We still have lads claiming that we would have self destructed at a moments notice.
Fact is, we actually had a firm defense and hope that will continue to gel.
Fact is, Rooney and Robin have never started a prem game together because of Rooney’s injury and this means that we have not had our first choice team on the field before this.
Yesterday we had a first choice team, back to front and they were IMMENSE, they were FABULOUS.
Barcodes could not live with United forward play through most of the game.
Go on then, enjoy your misery or whatever. Piss poor from these negative ‘fans’! Eore’s Army!
@Shinji
It has been a while since you posted something positive on here about the lads and the gaffer aswell, I don’t know why but you always seems to focus solely on the negative side of the things
And you can’t expect the regulars to be all nice with you cause this is a united blog, hardcore united supporters will always target you unless you stop spouting bollocks
and this is not the first time I addressed you, on your previous posts on other threads you were all after the youngsters ‘about how tom cleverley isn’t a proven quality, that you struggle to see any quality on the lad, that he is being hyped out simply because he’s english.’
Also you were on about welbeck the other day…
Its sad to see
I picked one or two points in your comments that were all spot on, aka fergies totally negative approach at the etihad stadium on that decisive match of the season, but you can’t just bash for the sake of it without an actual reason for that, he’s not immune to criticism but he’s proven time and again that he’s the best man for the job despite the ABUs epic fails at attempts to bring the scot down
Now who are you to question the great man?
U urge all pretenders to leave this site, Shinji da Ninja and co. must butt off from RoM.
I think the diamond works well for us and for the 1st time Carrick & Cleves combined very well
with Roo roaming around.
Tony V has yet to reach his devastating form and soon as he does we will be unstoppable, good news Chris Smalling is returing too.
Great win
Great play
The performance wee tomas putted together was something you can not buy
The excitement of seeing a kid coming through the ranks and place his mark in the united best eleven is something money can’t buy
The excitement and joy of seeing danny welbs track back, interchange, attack and put himself within touch distance of scoring…. Huuu!!!
Rooney the beast that he’s
Technically he was sound bossing the MF all day long, intercepting, assisting, defending and almost scored…
That little RUN of jonny evans through the middle still is playing in my head, had he managed to pull the pass through to welbs it would of been awesome, but still
Best eleven of the season
It is fucking awful to see Welbz holding a spot in the starting line up for us. How many teams in England can afford to have a player with his lack of skills holding a place up front instead of anyone else?
He can´t shoot, he cant make his man, he can´t pass, he hardly knows how to run without falling to the ground with his poor balance. If I where Hernadez I would start question my ability to see someone like him taking my spot in the team.
He misses, he fails to deliver passes even when our guys makes perfect runs and there are a fucking landingstrip to deliver the ball at without as much as one opponent in the way.
Everyone else was great and covered up his mistakes yet again.
While I am at it with all this anger (despite a beutiful display from our team) why the hell are there no quick reactions when we loose? It makes this blog a little less good. We support our team in good and in bad days, don´t we?
some fuckers are never happy. I knew we had it in us but wasn’t expecing a performance like that, a complete one in which every member played very well. You can imagine the suprise (well i’m not suprised anymore) to come on and read negativity. We can’t even enjoy a good victory anymore.
A good game from United after a long time. Attacking front and midfield have been performing wonderfully. Would have been great if this form is kept up whole year. Having seen one game is still not enough to prove anything, we need to see whether such tactics and game play is good enough against bigger clubs like Chelsea, Real or Barca. However, it is good that there is an uplift of spirit and willpower to win from United. Defensive wise it has been improving a lot but De Gea still has a long journey before he will become an outstanding keeper. I pray he would be one of the best soon. Our other defensive players are also performing quite good, I had to admit they are really in-form. Would love to see United climb back up to the top as one of the best in Europe and rest of the world again.
Reading back at earlier posts, I find that it is quite interesting about looking back at past glory. Looking back at United’s pass glory is a memory but always clinging onto it is never good. What past is past, What is in the future has not come and what is important right now. What a team strive is always for the future. I would not want to cling onto the past so much like Liverpool’s fans. They basked in the glory of their past so much. However it is good to relive the memories of the good time and enjoy the reason why one became a fan of United.
Newcastle United v Manchester United – 20 minute highlights:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu5uaw_newcastle-united-v-manchester-united_sport
Who in your right mind you think deserved the left wing role in the team if not welbeck yesterday..
Don’t tell me about nani, cause he has been utterly poor so far this season, TBH our wingers are really not up to it, tony V was non existent attacking wise but atleast he helped rafael at the back see out the threat jonas and ben harfa brought.
” is fucking awful to see Welbz holding a spot in the starting line up for us. How many teams in England can afford to have a player with his lack of skills holding a place up front instead of anyone else?
He can´t shoot, he cant make his man, he can´t pass, he hardly knows how to run without falling to the ground with his poor balance. If I where Hernadez I would start question my ability to see someone like him taking my spot in the team.
He misses, he fails to deliver passes even when our guys makes perfect runs and there are a fucking landingstrip to deliver the ball at without as much as one opponent in the way.
Everyone else was great and covered up his mistakes yet again”
yet another overreaction and extreme exaggeration regarding regarding danny. How can he lack in several key components needed at the highest level yet be a marksman at the club. Those that only judge a player based on if they have scored, overlooking their all round contributions. Welbeck lost all bearings last night and will hopefully work on his composure but danny’s work rate set the tone for united’s high energetic display.
Unlike your description which gives the an impression that the guy is,a pub player, he can actually pass well, shoot well. He links up the play, he’s skillful and can hold up the ball. “he can’t make his man”. what, is he in a pottery class?. Danny is a work in progress and will hopefully get there, I like hernanndez but welbeck has the better all round game, hence why he’s still ahead of him. The goals will hopefully come, if only patience could ever be found.
Lighten up fucktards… Here is some hilarious gifs from the genius that is Olly from RedCafe:
http://i.minus.com/if5PxDu6Gy8Uo.gif
http://i.minus.com/iyzrJDtyWPpyY.gif
Bit off topic, but you know its a slow news day when you find yourself in agreement with Robbie Fowler.
Saying Bruce & Pallister the best he played against. Might never agree with another word, but got that right. Brucie and Pallie! Proper United legends!
http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2012/10/robbie-fowler-reveals-the-toughest-defenders-he-ever-faced.html
Don’t forget to wash after
No one is holding on to past glory. Fergie has always been a manager that looks forward. He builds foundations and has started another one that will benefit him and his successor. The club has not rested on its laurels, the manager contniously buys or develops a batch of younger talents with aim to fly the club’s flag. Of course past achievements are something to reminisce about, this is why united lies amongst the legendary clubs but they’ve not rested on their laurels.
I just assume some want united to steam-roll every team and fergie to be the perfect manager in a highly competitive league, in which opponents are motivated highly against you . Add the fact european and general world game has massively improved, you find out that gaining each points is a battle.
Can’t believe how many mugs on here tearing into welbz. The guy is class and all the attributes are there for all to see – finishing aside. And that will come soon. No doubt.
Seems the general consensus was the gaffer got the tactics ans starting line up spot on. I mostly agree. Not so sure kagawa and clevs should play together. Latter had a belting game though.
Guess it was weird for some seeing no wingers but I expected this all season long. We have one too many wingers and strikers. The gaffer will rotate but a couple or so aren’t gonna be happy. Maybe the writting on the wall for Nani. Shame if that’s the case. I’d rather we kept him over young. Anyways that’s all speculation. 3 points against the bar codes and goals coming from the defense and midfield. Is our Rafael a monster or what
In my opinion. Welbeck seems like a confused player. If we revert to the diamond formation on a regular basis, that should mean playing Danny permanently up front. Because he’s certainly not a winger. And it won’t hurt if he starts practicing on his finishing a bit more.
Speaking of that system, the good thing about players like Valencia and Ashley Young is that they can also play as midfielders in the diamond formation. Their work rate makes them flexible like that. The only player I can’t see fitting in, is Nani. Unless we play him up front.
costas – I think nani is a confidence player, he regains it and I see a top class player. In my opinion, he’s flexible and technically able to fit into whatever formation, more so than young or valencia but of course he needs to improve.
Agreed on welbeck but he played as the main forward player last night. He popped up everywhere because united are trying to implement an inter-changing style, less of the rigidity and more flowing unpredictable football. He needs to get more composed and should work on it as with that comes the ability to stay calm in front of goal. His all round play has been one of his strenghts.
Wee tomas insist that goal isn’t a fluke, he meant it
Anyways, anyone interested in downloading the 01:05 goal here it is http://t.co/3gg6y1mc
It is amazing just how many SHEEP on her see a few “regulars” pouncing on someone like me and join in – The thread has now turned in to me being NEGATIVE when I started out with a VERY positive post and then being forced to explain the use of the word “energy” in relation to the manager.
Rather than just take all the “invented” complaints from people about things I never even said.
It is clear that a lot of people on here are simply cowardly sheep who dare not voice an opinion.
The actual trolls are probably those who want us to keep believing that EVERYTHING is perfect and the manager is beyond criticism.
I think all the dicks who love to pounce on anyone here are Mike Phelan in disguise.
They have no substance and will only ever nod along and seek approval of their peers.
HERE IS THE FLOCK OF SHEEP
samuel – united WE stand
A Social Skidmark
DreadedRed
Legend(Giggs)
Proverb
United Till I Die
Wee Toms Ligaments
You can recognise them by how they are always bleating at anyone who doesnt say everything is Perfect
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa , Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
So lets just remind ourselves what I ACTUALLY said when I first posted today
SHINJI THE NINJA says:
One KEY player really upped his game today – he had been weak and making some silly errors and was being complacent.
That key player had a wake up call it seems and today was a delight to watch.
That Key player was SAF
Nice to see he has found his form again – He needed to up his own energy so the team is energised again.
Sounds pretty flattering and positive to me but then I have a prick like
samuel – united WE stand says:
Fergie is 70, what bloody energy are you talking about now shinji?
So exactly WHO is bringing all the NEGATIVITY to this forum
It wasnt me – It was samuel and ALL THE FUCKING SHEEP that flocked together to start the fucking bleating.
Well Im a fucking WOLF and eat ship like the flock above for fucking breakfast.
Bunch of reach around retards.
Costas,
Interesting comments. Wonder if we are in for more diamond or if it’s only thing working with all our wingers crocked.
Great news about Smalling back in training.
Dreaded. Cheers for that mate. Love MOTM2 when they are all loving United. Lawro was loving us and that is good to see.
Must say… Cleverley absolutely meant it !
Top performance by the lads, first 20 minutes was first class, absolutely bossed a strong Newcastle side at their place, love seeing Rooney play deeper, he’s a complete footballer, not many have it like scholes, iniesta, Xavi, world class
Did he start jump up and down?
Was it the first time he got off his arse to motivate the team? No!
So what energy are you on about here
SHITZU JUJITSU
You are a nasty little liar. Anytime you want to eat me for breakfast, I’m available.
Best you come prepared.
The amount of bollock you have been spouting on here, it aren’t about your first let’s say “positive comments” you posted on this thread
Almost 100% of your posts here are solely focused on the negative side of thing, its crazy even after a great performance by the lads you can’t seems to bring yourself back to senses. You just need to accept you’re really a slater..
Have you taken you pills today? Surely moaning all the time isn’t good for your health
Shinji… What the fuck are you banging on about??
Anyway…
Best performance of the season for me. Against a team who are no mugs, what so ever!
Rio was outstanding for me. His best performance for a while, and shows England exactly what they’re missing!!
Nice to see a goal from Evans & Evra aswell. Rafa was oustanding as usual. He’s looking something special at the min!
Clevs had a good game against a great Newcastle midfield! Did he mean his goal?? I think not. Lol
Rooney was outstanding again! Well worth man of the match!
I beg for a goal from Welbeck, to get him going. Works hard to get in the positions he gets in. Ratting around and hassling but then no final product. It will come!!
Hard to believe some of these lads are drunk at 10am.
Must be special time of month?
Nicky_Shaw says:
Shinji… What the fuck are you banging on about??
If you are genuinely interested then read the thread – If not then you just joined the flock.
Do yourself a favour and read the thread before jumping in with a “what are you banging on about”
Its all there in black and white if you can be bothered to read it, if you cant then dont bother adding to it with your comment.
Top Research from Alex Miller and Nick Harris:
United and the Virus have sold 1.4m official shirts each year every year for the past 5 years.
More than any other clubs in the world.
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/10/08/exclusive-manchester-united-and-real-madrid-top-global-shirt-sale-charts-081001/
@SHINJI THE NINJA
Regulars will hate. Sheep will follow. Always has been this way, always will be.
BTW Shelvey set for England call-up. It’s a shame Charlie Adam isn’t English.
@Proverb
Again – read the actual fucking comments you dick.
I never said anything negative in my original post but was fucking jumped on by all you dicks.
If I have a criticism I will fucking well make it and dont expect to receive vague abuse from twats just because I have an opinion that differs are isnt all about how much” I love United it hurts “like some fucking teenage girl.
And here you go again – no matter what the actual facts are you have decided, Im going to join the flock and try and shout that guy Shinji down.
Why dont you read my first post you prick. When we play positively and there is something to be positive about I will say as much.
If previous posts were “negative” its because we were shit – Am I wrong – did we beat Tottenham or what ??
Shinji – sir, you muppet leader of the clowns. Your comment is full of shit again. this blog is filled with Fans that understand the game. They noticed the bullshit you post and reacted, i’ve merely given my response. I read your posts and you seem the spoilt kid rambling because you can win 100 nil in video games but united can’t match your expectation. You degrade the players, claiming the team is filled with useless players, the manager is awful because he’s made mistakes (and will do so again as he’s NOT perfect but his achievements means he does get benefit of the doubt). You want perfection when clearly no man will ever obtain it. You want the team filled with galacticos when united have never had that philosophy.
No one is saying the team is immune to criticism but we should aspire to constructive one at least. Judging by your constant doom and gloom, that can’t be seen.
I’ve tried to reason but your comments can’t be taken serioisly. Fans know how they want the team improving but we’ve never claimed to be perfect.
How many people do you have to argue with to realize you are high, high! Dude you never post anything positive on here
Again the lad you bashed the other day scored one beauty of a goal yesterday swallow it!
I’m sure you’re pissed the tom has once again proven you are just a muppet always babbling about
@samuel
u are right, he can run his heart out and be all over the place. But when he is gonna do something creative he fails way to often and is in my opinion not “united class” and I don´t care if he was born at the Stretford end row 5 or not, he just dont do it for me, and it makes me a bit sad to see him in the line up so often.
But our manager sees something in him that I don´t, so I rest my case, he has proved me wrong on more then one occation and would probably even kill Chuck Norris in a bare-knuckle fight by just staring him down.
And it also makes me sad to talk like this about one of our players. so enough of it and lets enjoy all the good things of the game instead. Rooney back on track, our defence solid again. Evra back to something i start to believe in, Cleverly a gem and yes, of course he meant it!!! DDG clean sheet and no it wasn´t in and it wasn´t due to Webb, if anyone it was the flagman who should make the call.
Still looks like RvP don´t quite finds his role, but he is constantly occuping 2 defenders and can put the corners beyond the first post which is a rare quality in top flight footie.
I’m done with this bullshit of a subject and I won’t respond to it , it will never end. I blame myself because more often than not, I try to skip the crap posted on here but yet i’ve succumb to it.
Oi me. You lads have to much time on your hands.
Enjoy this instead
Suarez, the victim of Scholes Lazer Attack! http://i.minus.com/if5PxDu6Gy8Uo.gif
T – fair enough. thankfully, your insight about who is “united class “or not won’t really make a difference.
Fletch – was suarez making an impression of kermit the frog? Best dive ever.
re anti scouser 11.03, charlie adams is a disgrace, shows how far scottish football has fallen (from having a decent team when i was younger) if he gets in our national team. an arsehole thug masquerading as a football player, he was the same when he played up here for the huns, even their own fans hated him and couldnt wait for him to piss off.
THAT’s THE BEST WE’VE PLAYED THIS SEASON!
Sir Alex Ferguson believes Manchester United are
ready to pile the pressure on Premier League
leaders Chelsea after sweeping to a 3-0 victory
over Newcastle at St James’ Park.
Early goals from defenders Jonny Evans and
Patrice Evra plus a stunning late strike from
England midfielder Tom Cleverley were enough to
secure a deserved victory for Ferguson’s side on
Sunday.
It means United climb above defending
champions Manchester City on goal difference,
four points behind leaders Chelsea as the Premier
League goes into the international break.
After two league defeats in the early stages of the
campaign cast doubt on their title credentials,
this emphatic display had Ferguson in upbeat
mood.
“That’s the best we’ve played this season,
especially the first 20 minutes. But I wouldn’t
have had any money on either of Patrice or Jonny
scoring!” he said.
“We were really on top of our game in terms of
concentration and determination – all the things
you want to see. There is pressure even at this
stage of the season and you don’t want to fall too
far behind.
“If we hadn’t won today we’d have been seven
points behind Chelsea so it’s an important win.”
Wayne Rooney was instrumental in the win,
sending over the corners that produced United’s
first two goals, and the England forward said: “It
is a huge result. This is probably one of the
hardest games of the season, but we came here,
defended brilliantly and scored three goals so
overall we fully deserved the victory.
“Our focus was the key. Certainly in the first six
games of the season, we haven’t defended well
enough.
“That isn’t just the back four, that’s the whole
team. Today we were brilliant. Newcastle are a big
team, a physical team and we knew we had to
defend our box really well.
“We managed to do that and score three goals.
There was a focus about us and we need to
continue to do that for the rest of the season if
we’re going to be successful.”
Rooney remains without a goal so far this season,
in part down to a lengthy injury lay-off. He added:
“I’m not at all anxious (about scoring my first
goal), we’ve got players who can score goals for
us other than myself.
“I’m not concerned, if it comes, it comes. As long
as we’re winning I’m not really concerned about
that.”
The only black cloud on the horizon for United is a
potential ban for Robin van Persie if the Football
Association take action over his alleged elbow on
Newcastle’s Yohan Cabaye.
The FA will await Howard Webb’s report before
deciding whether to take any action following the
alleged incident late in the match.
Newcastle manager Alan Pardew urged the FA to
scrutinise the actions of van Persie, who has
history with the Tyneside club following an angry
confrontation with goalkeeper Tim Krul last
season when playing for Arsenal.
The sanction for violent conduct, should it be
proved in this case, is normally a three-game ban.
Should Webb reveal he saw the coming together
with France midfielder Cabaye and decided to
take no action, that is likely to be the end of the
matter.
If, however, the World Cup final referee confirms
that he failed to see the incident, the FA is likely
to review footage of the clash which came in a
bad-tempered contest where the sides shared
eight bookings.
“He’s looked at Yohan and he’s elbowed him,”
Pardew insisted in the wake of only a second
defeat in 12 games for his side this season.
“It needs to be looked at. There’s a bit of history
last year and Robin got caught up with it. It was a
bit unsavoury.
“Yohan wouldn’t have gone down if he hadn’t
done something. I’ve seen it again and he’s
looked at him and put his elbow in there. It’s up
to the FA to look at, not me. http://t.co/cU0PmbRj
@Shinji, wind your neck in for fuck sake, its getting boring.
The fact hardly anyone agrees with you has got sod all to do with following the crowd and EVERYTHING to do with hardly anyone agreeing with you. Its simple really.
You ARE entitled to your opinion but you’re NOT entitled to everybody agreeing with it – so change the fucking record aye? We win 3-0 and look at your reaction.
Ask me you’re a fucking nutjob. Is this how you deal with rejection? You call people sheep because they disagree with your opinions? What you gonna do FORCE us to agree with you?
Ha.
Not being able to agree to disagree is a classic sign of nutty-ness mate, so go get it looked at. Meanwhile, we put in a solid performance away from home and the Reds go marching on….
3-0 away to newcastle and we still got unhappiness!
Its doesnt fuckin matter what u think shinji and gang!!
U can come up with reasons bout the gaffer but it still dont matter.
Funny how you bark at regulars here with no respect!
Anyways, we were fuckin awesome last weekend! More to come I pray!!
The link-up play is pure class!! Onwards United!!!
Imo I think the elbow incident in my point of view wasn’t malicious, even though I didn’t really get to see the review to see what actually happened there
All I saw is tonyV taking a lot of time to cross the ball
Well.. Here awaiting the Fucking Assholes decision hopefully VP doesn’t get banned
Has anyone seen another angle on the Cabaye knock? Don’t see much in it from the MOTM footage and there wasn’t a replay during the feed I saw.
I can’t see much in it either way.
Some barcode fans are saying RvP changes directions. My read is he was trying to let Cabaye pass him and Cabaye slows to force RvP to either i, run into him (which is what happens), or ii take drastic evasive action.
Unfortunate and possibly critical that Robin raises his arms.
Again, would need other views.
Not much in it for me, but anything can happen when the suits at the FA get involved.
Speaking of Cabaye, anyone see anything that would make you want to have him at United? Someone was saying we were in for him. I kind of doubt it.
A fending off straight out arm not a bent one coming from front to back in a deliberate blow the type you would normally see in an assault nothing in it not even a foul imo
Me neither at @FletchTHEMAN
But the ABUs seems to be pushing for the punishment, which imo would be unfair
What a saw isn’t deserving for a punishment wasn’t intentional
@FletchTHEMAN
Some great partnerships mentioned there, as much as i admire Bruce and Pally, my favorite would be Johnsen and Stam, they didn’t play long together but my God they were something, I always remember Alan Shearer’s body language whenever he faced Jaap Stam, he knew he had absolutely no chance, I also remember Giovanni Elber of Bayern saying that Stam was the toughest defender he faced, he had everything, as for Johnsen well we used to call him Ronaldo Johnsen for almost having the amazing Brazilian in his pocket whenever he faced him, I also remember him neutralizing the magnificent Zidane playing in midfield, Zidane was so frustrated he almost broke Johnsen’s leg that day.
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Newcastle manager Alan Pardew accuses Robin van Persie of elbowing Cabaye- http://t.co/6l9aMzp8
Its sad to see, its a manager asking for a player to be punished, not the same as asking for a yellow card to be shown during the game?
Only the goal which imo I think the official should have given it. But in the has been a lot of incidents where the ball does cross the line but without touching the ground and being given. The were really starting pile on the pressure had it been given it would of been a whole different scenario
STR your cunts and wurms are in full force,
They are slowly killing what is RoM, I have to skip 50% of all who post. I have thick skin and laugh at the low life scum HAHA!
TUNA TWAT = SUSHI ROONEY IS THE 3RD TO 6TH BEST PLAYER IN DA WORLD CUNT , SHIT COVERED COCK SUCKER!!!!! HAHA HE IS ONLY 26 GET READY FOR 7 MORE YEARS OF IT BEING HIS TEAM!!! HIS CLUB!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
prevert going as a women for Hollows Eve? Just so hard to pick between, nasty nurse, Dorothy or Cher. NO NO Liza!
Hamzah, Agree with you about Stam and Ronny Johnsen. My problem with Stam was his abrasive attitude toward Fergie. If Fergie and Stam could have stood each other for 2+ more years we would talk about Stam much more than we do now. Absolutely top class for us but not long on the book unfortunately.
Hello Fletch, great game.
Rafa
Rio and Evans
Rooney go find the game!
Fletch off to the Nat side!!!?!!
WAY OF TOPIC…….
Hate the FA meddling with a passion, but you could see this one coming from a ways off:
ASHLEY COLE Charged.
http://www.thefa.com/News/governance/2012/oct/ashley-cole-charged-with-misconduct-081012.aspx
Zibbie, Cheers mate. PS Hope you bring some sanity on here. Some lads having a bad day at the office I fear.
We can all laugh at Chelsea…… I almost felt sorry for DiMateo at the presser when journos told him about ColeGate. Robertos whole posture just slouched, Done like a kipper!
RVP will be banned for 3 games because of all the bitter ABUs spouting their nonsense about an ‘assault’ and the FA is weak and will cave in to the pressure. Nothing in it for me, Tiote’s stamp was much worse, but there you go.
We’d better start preparing for life without him but I think we’ll be OK – as we saw yesterday the whole team is chipping in with goals and Rooney is more key in linking up the play than him, it would also be good to give Chich a run of games in the side and help him to find his form.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2214522/Ashley-Young-watches-Newcastle-game-Man-United-fans.html
So refreshing!
Time for Nani to do just that ? Oh, really ?
Love Ashley Young.
Corea
cheers for that link brought a little smile just in time after the pleb had tried to piss me off..[I understand this kind, its one who need garlic oil spread around their body so they feel important]
Great seeing ash having some fun there
GREAT NEWS. Hope it’s true:
No further action on RvP. FA confirmed. via Mark Ogden
Good news about Van Persie. It would have been a joke had he received a three match ban for tickling someone. At last some common sense from the FA.
Oof, thankfully!!
Wayne rooney & van persie’s partnership will really gel now
Ha #FA trending on twitter wankers calling it the ferguson association jeez, why would anyone in their right mind think RVP deserve punishment for that incident which imo think there was nothing intentional
@Joffrey, You can bet it didn’t have anything to do with the FA as they are only too happy to ban United players.
Reports from BBC are as follows:
The FA will NOT be taking any further action against Van Persie, Huth or Tiote from this weekend.
Howard Webb reviewed Robin Van Persie incident and didn’t consider it to be act of violent conduct.
Regarding Tiote and Huth, at least one of the match officials witnessed the incidents and so the FA don’t take retrospective action.
Flletch- of course the media will imply Webb is in SAF,s pocket as will certain fans but thats bitterness for you. Right decision .
@united til I die
Ironically I am not looking for everyone to agree with ME
seems that you are though.
and because you have been found out you have to resort to the name calling.
I cant argue with an idiot like you as you are just trying to drag me down to your level and then of course you will win by experience.
@Zibbie
great post. Really insightful and well made comment.
You are what makes the forum great.
“Shit covered cocks” – Classy
Ninja you’re not a Red the comments about wanting to see Mike Phelan cleaning the coach and emptying portable toilets was vile and no Utd fan would be so disrespectful against a loyal servant also a decent bloke.Pretty well all your posts show disrespect so why don’t you fuck off,people just need to ignore your vile dribble
samuel – united WE stand says:
“yet another overreaction and extreme exaggeration regarding regarding danny. How can he lack in several key components needed at the highest level yet be a marksman at the club. Those that only judge a player based on if they have scored, overlooking their all round contributions.”
Actually my earlier comment, and the one you quoted mention many other things about Wellbeck that are frustrating to watch, least of which is his lack of goals. Rooney for example can go games without scoring, yet nobody would argue his contribution to the tempo of the game or overall contribution to the team. Wellbeck however, different story. Does he have skills? Yes, he’s not a “pub” player. But something is wrong there. Could be his confidence level, that’s why I’m thinking he should be offloaded for a year loan to see if things change. Having him “learn on the job” and fumble, trip, make the wrong pass, be wasteful with shots, linger on the ball and be “surprised” losing the ball etc leading the line at united is not acceptable imo. You need to get your shit together quickly and show you deserve a spot.
He definitely hasn’t merited keeping other “potential” talent on the bench and starting a game.
Shinji : cut it out doomsayer. no one jumped on you.,
you type such comments to illicit attention. sadly you are getting it.
DannyTheLad’s contribution was key yesterday – defending-from-the-front.
Fuck me. There are some fucking pricks on here. A great win and performance yet some (you know who you are) feel it necessary to pick fault. Ha. We should win summat EVERY season. Yeah Football is like that. Welbeck should be offloaded? Ha. Danny is fucking quality and we are a better faster more dynamic side with him in it.
Rooney is fucking top drawer, simple as.
My man Clevs coming good.
Nuff said.
I know fine well who SHINJI THE NIJA IS. LORD GAGA!!
On a more positive note …
Evra appeared to be out of position only twice. A marked improvement from last year.
What the fuck are you on about Adam? Danny go on loan? Why? been there done that. Danny runs at players with pace and power. Is dynamic. Never stops working. Has the opposition on the back foot. A great player who gets me off my seat. His finishing will come with maturity. He is a much better rounded player than Hernandez.
Is he more rounded then hernandez, totally..and yes he gets me excited when he starts to run at players, but then seems to draw a blank..more often than not all the good work he does is completely wasted…
Well Played United.
De Gea
Rafael Evans Ferdinand Evra
4-4-2 … Cleverley Anderson Kagawa Valencia Rooney Van Persie. This is all action for teams at home when we want to drop the hammer.
4-1-2-1-2 … Fletcher Cleverley Anderson Kagawa Rooney Van Persie. This is the wingless monstrosity we have been playing recently. This formation suits Kagawa.
4-3-3 … Fletcher Cleverley Anderson Rooney Valencia Van Persie. The standard away from home formation. Pack the middle fill in the sides good for control or counter.
Insert Carrick, Nani, Young, Hernandez … well not Hernandez and Wellbeck as per your preference.
Shinji is a moron, dont waste yo tym with him coz this fucking ninja is from merseyside(Liverpool fan).
You idiots dont realise hw much Danny gives 2 da team, his work rate and marking is incredible but you forget that Danny is only 22yrs, he will get better, we should not condemn da player but encourage him, i do admit though Danny can frustrate you at times just like Nani but unlike Nani Danny work hard for da team.
Anyway why are you fuckers so negative so early in da season, never write off United.
This was an excellent performance by United. They looked sharp and totally dominated Newcastle for large parts of the game.
My colleague at Football In Numbers had the pleasure of writing the match analysis for this game. Have a look as there are some interesting observations;
http://footballinnumbers.com/newcastle-0-manchester-united-3-match-analysis/