1. Days like yesterday have the potential to win you or lose you the title. When it’s 1-1 with 90 minutes played after a lacklustre second half you’re thinking it’s a day that could lose you the title. It doesn’t matter that Norwich have performed so well this season, sitting in 8th place despite getting beaten, we needed the points. We’ve got tough games coming up and we couldn’t afford to draw. The win probably papers over the cracks of what was a disappointing performance from United but I’m too happy with the win to think too much about that right now.
2. If Ryan Giggs’ career was a film, you would roll your eyes and think it was the cheesiest, most unbelievable nonsense you’d ever seen. He made his 900th appearance for the club and scored an injury time winner. The word “legend” is used far too frequently in football. If there’s any player in this country today that the word can be used for accurately, it is him. Wow. He was more effective when he moved inside from the wing and was in the right place at the right time to win us the game. He had a chance to score before that after a brilliant ball from Jones saw Ryan’s effort come back off he crossbar. What a way to mark his special day.
3. Whilst Giggs stole all the headlines, as you’d imagine, it was David de Gea who was our Man of the Match and who ensured we got the win. He made a brilliant reaction save with his foot a few yards out after a lovely ball from Norton to Pilkington and a great save from a powerful Wilbraham shot from outside box. Better than that, he caught the ball when he should catch it and punched it when he should punch it. He looked confident and assured when jumping up with an opponent when a cross came in too. One of his best performances for the club. Credit should also go to Jonny Evans and Rio Ferdinand who did a great defensive job too.
4. Paul Scholes has now scored his second important goal since returning from retirement last month. Is it a worry that our two old men are scoring our goals for us? No, I wouldn’t say so. “If they are good enough, they’re old enough” Sir Matt Busby said, referring to our young lads who took English football by storm. Surely the same can be applied at the other end of the spectrum. If they’re good enough, they’re not too old. At the moment, they’re certainly proving they’re still good enough, so let’s not get bent out of shape about it.
5. Nani and Ashley Young have been frustrating over recent weeks since coming back from injuries, and probably before, but with them assisting a goal each, can we complain? Young’s ball to Giggs was perfect, just the kind of delivery we bought him for, so let’s hope they can keep it up. Antonio Valencia is meant to be back for Spurs, hopefully, so it would be great to have some real fierce competition for starting places on our wing. Nani showed some lovely skill early on, only for Norwich thug Bradley Johnson to come crashing in to him, retaliating for being made to look like a mug. More of the same, please Nani.
6. Danny Welbeck and Chicharito, who are fighting it out to start alongside Wayne Rooney, were frustrating in front of goal. Welbeck did force a very good save, with the goalie’s finger tips just taking the ball past the post, but in the dying moments at 1-1, Welbeck should have won us the game. He somehow got his header completely wrong and instead of letting it just bounce of his head, went to place it, and missed the ball. In the first half, Chicharito was one on one with the keeper with a chance to try and kill off the game, but stabbed it tamely straight at him. Must do better lads.
7. Seeing how much Giggs’ winner meant to the players was great to see. Phil Jones and Rio Ferdinand in particular went absolutely bonkers. Our players want this title. It would be nice if they played with the urgency we showed after their equaliser right from the beginning though. Get the game won then take your foot off the gas, if necessary. It doesn’t seem to matter which eleven players go out there though, Ferguson inspires this never say die attitude at this club, which I hope will carry us through until May.





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Three points and well done lads.
Definately agree with DDG Man of the match.
Re Nani .the stream I had on accused him of show boating, he wasn’t doing anything of the sort he was using his tricks to out fox the Norwich Players. Go on if you want the ball you’ll have to foul me.
Totally agree that these players want this title and the Passion certainly shows.
So go on and win it Reds. 20
Win the league boys, that will piss just about everybody off.
A difficult place to go and they made hard work of it… but they should learn from these matches (Ajax included) and make them stronger in the future. City still need to go there and Swansea…
Either way… its another one of those games that we’ll remember for yet again pulling turning 1 point into 3 at the death.
Well done Giggsy… the celebrations at the end was great to see!!
…The reds go marching on on on!
As Sir Alex would say… Football – Bloody Hell!
The over reliance on Rooney is a problem though, before yesterday’s game I heard a stat that without Rooney this season we’ve : W 4 D 4 and L 4 and 3 of the wins came against Leeds, Aldershot and Wigan.
M19ke
And we will Celebrate well into the night.
I think DDG is coming good now at the right time. I’ve believed in him from day 1 and still believe in him now 100%.
Man of the match? Hands doiwn me. The way I celebrated the winner after knowing the score was fucking epic
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1028255/twitter-trio-charged-for-homophobia?cc=5901
Really Kiko?
Scholes’s run to the box for the first goal was text book. Simple football. Brought a tear to my eye. The second goal did not surprise me to be honest… We were just one good move away from three points and kept it simple again. Bodes well for a young team that we have these two terrific guys to teach them lads a thing or two about composure.
Cedars
Which score? The 5-2 ?
I personally think the word legend isn’t good enough for Giggsy & Scholesy I think phenomenal is a more appropriate description. On the subject of the wingers I know that nani can be frustrating at times but he does have that uncanny ability to produce something stunning ala Chelsea at home. One small thing that both Young & Nani have over Valencia is that they can both use their weaker foot. Don’t get me wrong Tony has been our best player since he came back, but at times when he is shown onto his left foot he will not use it unless he absolutely has to. Last point, got to say I am so chuffed for DDG I knew he had the talent all he lacked was the confidence and now that he has it he is showing his critics why we paid £18M for him.
GGMU
Redrider
He was still wanking over the RVP Goal.
Utd were shocking we are getting away it because the league is so bad.We are in a serious downward spiral and something has to be done to stop this slide.
Man of the match was actually me!
I was a sea of clam and tranquility as Giggs scored 92nd minute.
I did smile though
And maybe a little tear fell
Goodnight United
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Two footed Valencia would be the next best thing that would have happened in football after Luis Figo.
Cedars
Calm down. Count to ten and Ignore.
James
Hehe… Probably at it still!
The celebrations were crazy. Giggs could have injured Jones with the way Giggsy was pumping his fist in the air.
redrider
See even the mention of RVP excites him. Where’s he gone I wonder.
Given 2-3 weeks, Nani and Ashley will regain their lost form. Unfortunately for them, the beast is back.
Its great when we win like that,the bitters Arses twitchin again, were waitin for them to mess up and they will,theres all the way to May to go yet, keep the Faith and believe in Ourselves !
The was giggs finished that off only further emphasises the man’s technical class. He was orchestrating everything and could have had a couple of assists if other players finished well. rolled back the years yet again and Fergie knows how to use both him and paul scholes. We can’t afford to start relying on them too heavily, hence why others have to step up.
Agreed about de gea. Looks like he is adapting well to the premier league after the shock he must have had when he started. Looks confident, strong and with more experience, he’ll be commanding his 18 yard box.
I thought the front three of Nani, Welbeck and Hernandez were woeful in the build-up and hold-up play. When the team desperatly needed to keep the ball in order to move out from Norwich pressure, they tried to dribble in stupid positions or executed sloppy passes or control. Before we knew it, Norwich were back in possession and putting pressure on before our midfield could move out of our defending thirs. Hopefully Ferguson had a word with them.
Stunning winner…f***ing love it. United really know how to work the heart.
De Gea wow!!!
Told you that in 10 years time we will be talking about him being one of the greatest keepers ever. Saturday the boy showed he is learning fast. Took the high balls and so many stunning saves already this season.
And the celebrations at the winner absolutly mental. But I was concerned as I was expecting that City Turd Bernstien to have found some way of charging United players with some offence and suspending them all in time for the trip to wastelands
Fuck off the lot of you, making fun of my RVP……. His goal yesterday was heavenly
No worries RVP , I have you protected
On topic: Well done.
Observations:
– United never give up!
– DeGea is the real deal!
Offtopic. Kiko, say it isn’t so……
Macheda charged with homophobic tweeting
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/macheda-charged-for-homophobic-tweet/3856498?section=sport
Ryan7 agreed mate. Jaysus wept!
Why do these muppets still hold out on carroll blossoming into a brilliant player?. Yes he
isn’t the finished article but he is more of a paper bag of dog Shit than any article. big hairy lump, a spinning 50 pence coin has more dynamism than he ever will possess, runs after a ball like a
kangaroo on marijuana,
horrific first touch that even an oak tree would feel embarrassed about, terrible awareness of space and movement. a clamped garbage
truck has more mobility, he flicks his unwashed hair more times than a chihuahua with flees.
Yet we get idiots who claim he will come good, yeah of course he’ll come good when russia becomes an exotic sunny paradise. The hopeless fucking twat.
Lol… Easy Cedars…
We’re making fun of you CedarsGooner.
redrider
All good pal, just good for a laugh…….. But seriously imagine the great man at United?
Re Davide, anyone want to credit the lad for starting to hold onto crosses? This seems a new aspect of his game that I previously said made the difference between DeGea and Lindegaard for me. Wouldnt doubt that Steele has been working on this in practice. Could start to really improve the goals against if balls get handled properly.
Video of DeGea saves v Norwich
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/david-de-gea-saves-v-norwich-2/
My stream stopped about 2 mins before the Giggs Goal so I was pacing up and down. I had the Arse Spuds on mute and it popped up on the screen. Hit the fuckin roof 10 times over.
I hate watching on TV.
That save from DDG when Holt headed with power and he just caught it. Great reaction save.
“One of his best performances for the club.”
This wasn’t just one of his best, this was his best performance by a country mile. An almost perfect display, and I don’t mind admitting I’ve been critical of him in the past but with good reason I might add.
De Gea is beginning to look like a proper keeper.
Fletch
Piss off every time I see the saves I get a semi on.
If this is what we have to look forward to then Bring it on David. This is why I never slag players down, because it always comes and bites your ass.
I love you VP I do I love you VP I do oooh VP I love you……
Just playing for the wrong club mate, get you arse over up north and join a proper club
CedarsGooner
Gooner that is Cedars
Haha… great man? Really? Pull some strings mate! Heard here you’re helping them out with their profits!
Would look good in our shirt. But why him when we can entice our Ronnie back home?!
I think yesterday was another one of ”those” moments which suggests it’s gonna be our year. They don’t happen by chance. The 3-3 draw at Chelsea and this last gasp win at Norwich our examples of the kind of results you need to win titles. After we negotiate our way past Spurs, the run in is very favourable to us and less so to City. I still think it will come down to the Derby in April, but with Championship experience on our side, I’d fancy us to get the necessary result in that one. City, although magnificent at home, have looked very shaky in some away games and the run in sees them travel to Arsenal, Stoke, Swansea, Norwich and Newcastle.
redrider
Ronnie? No thanks
RVP is the real deal, just like I have supposedly supported Arsenal financially (haha) I would do the same to see the best striker in the world wearing our shirt…..
RVP = Football god
Cedars – RVP is ugly and likes eating puppies!
Look what happens when I go away!
I can’t sleep and CedarsDevil becomes CedarsGooner
Oh blimey – where’s Watson? Time to investigate The Hound of the Gonnervilles
A semi on? well i won’t even bother asking what that means.
Anyway, de gea ability to make the most outstanding of shot stopping was never in question but he had a fragility in terms of crosses and commanding his box. That was only due to the fact he came with little experience and was thrown into the deep end in a physically demanding league, he was simply in a state of shock.
He needed to be taken off the gazing light of a media wanting a manchester united player to fail rather than the idea that Fergie dropped him.
Now he Looks back to his best in the past couple of games and long may that continue. Strong, more confident, deals better with crosses and long balls, has improved his concentration too. He obviously isn’t the finished item and may well show his lack of experience again (hopefully it won’t cost united) but the important thing for him is to get as much support from within the club and from fans. simples!
RvP plays with walcott. Enough said.
RVP is not ugly, he is gorgeous…. Err footballing wise I mean
Seriously though just imagine him in a United shirt……… FUCK
I agree with Samuel UWS
I thought yesterday and Thursday De Gea was brilliant – it was like he’s a different player – coming off his line – more battle hardened – couldn’t tell if it was De Gea or Edwin – great compliment that – hope he builds on it – a world class goalkeeper equals greatness.
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I think I’ll go now after my little cameo!
Night United for the second time…
He’s no Berba… and has no right leg!
redrider
You’ve hit me where it hurts by mentioning Berba!
Joking aside a pairing of Wazza and RVP would scare the fuck out of any team
Evening Fellow Reds
Love the way no one had risen to that WUM stevo
Back down keyboard warrior.
Anyway
Thought I could not love Giggs any more… then he goes and does that in injury time…
Beautiful
GGMU!
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As someone said on previous thread Jonesy s celebrations were superb. Best though was Strudwick who went absolutely mental.
I hate that line”its bad when we rely on Giggs and Scholes”. Is it fuck. They are still two of the best players in football.
Gotta love those cuddly scousers. Flicked LFC Tv and the giddiness is hilarious. The presenter signed off with “this will start another golden era under King Kenny”. Oh do me a favour and fuck off. They are dogshit. Kings text and said Henderson was showing his medal off to the under 21 squad. You couldn’t make it up. Even saw banners about the Sun and Justice for 96. Never miss an opportunity to throw that in the murdering bastards.
Just heard Atkinson’s the ref for the Spurs game, we can kiss 3 points goodbye then. No doubt Bale will dive and Atkinson will fall for it.
As for yesterday’s match. Disappointing overall performance, but the lads manage to dig out a result again. Jones, Smalling et al, are definitely learning from the best.
RVP is quality but not in the same league as Ronnie.
Stevo. What a shit comment. Yeah let’s stop this slide eh. Slide towards our twentieth title. God there are some miserable bastards. Weak league? Nonsense. Spurs are better. City. Teams like swansea and norwich. The premier league is a lot harder than it used to be where any team can win on any given day.
Aarrgghh. Moaning bastards on MUTV “we shouldn’t rely on Giggs and Scholes“. As I said WHY FUCKING NOT? Still top drawer players.
Sickened at the lack of mention Giggs has been given on radio chat shows. All the cunts are talking about is the vermin and poor Spurs and Harry being fucked about by the FA. Show Ryan some respect you disrespectful cunts.
Apparently Macheda tried to tell someone on twitter to shut their mouth and accidentally typed “stupid little gay” when he meant to type “stupid little guy” at least that’s how he’s already responded on twitter. If he get’s fined for that then what about this guy?? http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/05/article-1320515297477-0EADE91B00000578-734492_636x300.jpg
Here’s the twitter screen cap from the Redcafe thread anyway… http://i.imgur.com/wm78D.png
It really wasn’t a convincing performance on Sunday, except for the first 15 mins, and the last 5 mins, when we tore them apart at will. It’s very frustrating when we play so poorly for such a large period of the game, then when we are desperate, in the last 5 mins, we create 5-6 golden chances.
Giggsy was legendary in that last 5 mins, put Welbeck through on goal with a delightful chip, crossed in the ball for Welbeck when he missed that header, and scored the winning goal. He’s not been great this season in his overall performances, but still delivers the goods when we desperately need them.
I’ve become a big fan of Welbeck, who’s all round game has led me to find considerable deficiencies in Hernandez’s overall game. Hernandez’s movement in the box is fantastic, best in the world probably, but outside the box he needs to improve. He’s always offside, its incredibly annoying. Fitness has been a problem for him this season, and hopefully now he’ll chip in with more goals over rest of the season if fit.
But back to Welbeck, he needs to keep working on his finishing, and his level of composure in front of goal. How many times have we heard Fergie say “Danny could’ve had 6 today?” Once he gets that and it starts to click, he can score 25+ goals a season without any problem. He’s got great pace and power, and will be some player if he stays injury free. I just hope that his profligacy in front of the goal doesn’t cost us this season, even though I’m firmly behind his selection on a weekly basis to aid his development.
3Generations. Bastard. I let the side down mate by dignifying stevo with a response!
King Eric – the only reason people moan is because they’ve been spoilt with the success we’ve had. They need to realise, we have no god given right to win trophies every year and if we did, it would soon become worthless.
RVP = Absolute class. No doubt about it.
There is no chance of Utd signing RVP. £25m for a player who is 29, has been brilliant for 18months, but spent the rest of his career injured? No thanks. With Utd’s luck he’d play for 5 games and then be injured for 3 months. We need that money for a midfielder, my guess is Modric or a fairly young and unknown player. (Or Sneijder for considerably less than it wouldve been given how shit Inter are doing)
North Stand
Amen to that.
@North Stand – Agreed mate. It does frustrate me at times when Danny misses some gilt edged opportunities. BUT, he is still developing, and we’re a far better team with him than without. I don’t think its a coincidence that our most uninspiring spell of form (November time when we couldn’t score more than 1 goal a game) came when he was injured.
Equally, I don’t think its a coincidence that our best patches of form have come when he’s been playing up front with Rooney. Having 1 striker with an all round game is good….having 2 playing together is even better. We generally create a lot of chances with those 2 playing.
In an ideal world, you’d be able to find a way to get Chicha in there as well to finish off those chances and help us become more clinical!
More columns about Giggs
Ryan Giggs Art of growing old gracefully. The guardian biting its collective lip
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/27/ryan-giggs-stanley-matthews
Interesting update on the Pogba situation:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/united-could-lose-second-teenaged-star-says-agent-7447231.html?
I like this of Chicharito – often accused of ONLY scoring goals
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo8e59ePtP1qjcc3bo1_1280.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1330473320&Signature=KJiO1es%2BQm21PcBEkTGhu9q0FXo%3D
Well done lads.we done proper against norwich.I bliv that our laboured performance came as a subconcious effort to conserve strength for d run-in.there are yet tough games ahead.Not to worry,we are picking 3 pts frm all.laters.
Re: Pogba – So in other words, he’s not going anywhere this summer unless we decide he’s going somewhere (from that independent article):
Ferguson publicly warned Pogba before Christmas not to wreck his United chances, after Raiola was engaged to work on the contract discussions.
“We have an option on his contract that takes us into a year-and-a-half away, so in that respect there’s not a great emergency about it. But we’d like the boy to sign a contract and, if he’d like to be a Manchester United player, then he knows what to do,” Ferguson said back then.
Good morning Red Devils around the world,
2 min video of Davi De Gea saves against NORWICH..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOKeBzNXohc
Did anyone see this week’s ronaldo goal..
funny and tricky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Qv2XI3MmY&feature=related
better than the one against Villa
How about my mu team guys?
4-3-1-2
de gea
rafa smalling
jones fryers
javi.garcia
martinez gaitan
rooney
welbeck sturridge
sub:lindegaard,cleverly,pogba,chicha,w.keane,ferdy,fab.etc
Here is Cole, with his back to goal, but it dint make any difference
commentator on Andy Cole
Nah, I prefer the one against Villa. He couldn’t put as much power behind that one and he also got the ball through a crowd of players.
I was just looking at some stats. Since Valencia has joined United, he and Nani have started 33 games together on the wings. We’ve won 29 of them. That’s an 88% winning percentage.
Players like Chicharito and Welbeck have to work harder on their finishing, else don’t be surprised to see SAF axe them if they continue to fluff their lines. But it will be tougher against Spurs this weekend, with them wanting to avenge that humiliation against arsenil and the poor display of football which United gave for most of the match against Norwich. Hopefully Utd will come back with a win
any guesses on who’s gonna start alongside rooney(if fit) against spurs? chicha should get the nod ahead imo, has been good in away forms especially.
Costas,
Thats a good stat on the lord of the wings..
by the way, i honestly think Nani can do way better than what he is doing at the moment..
The lad has tremendous potential and i hope we see the full of it..
good day pal,
Arjun,
Good day mate.
Lordrt,
the games against Spurs will be open..we need raw pace and counter attack..
wish Valencia will be fit..and rooney as well..
King Eric
Morning mate, I totally agree that RvP is no Ronaldo. Whilst RvP is without doubt quality my alleged love for him is just used as a wind up and it does get people going at times just for some fun banter…
See even I can be a WUM! ha ha
Sandeep and Costas,
good day mates.
29/33=wreaking havoc guaranteed. bring them on. atleast that should counter the attacking threat of walker and ekotto. and parker is suspended!
Hi Sandeep. They’ve been phenomenal together, even if Nani isn’t at his best on the left. Regarding that percentage, the rest of our games have a 61% winning score. So it’s evident which is our best wing duo.
And in case anyone’s wondering which were the 4 games that we didn’t win with Tony and Nani starting together, those would be CSKA at OT (3-3), the 2 draws at Blackburn in the last 2 seasons and the defeat at Wembley against City. 2 very hurtful results in there…
Fletch & Sandeep
Thanks for those De Gea videos. Like many have said he was without doubt man of the match.
He can only get better and hopefully he will carry on like that from now on
Costas,
Yeah, Basel, Wembley and Anfield still hurt me..
Cedars,
welcome buddy..hope things are as smooth as mirror…
Sandeep
Never mind things being smooth as miirror as you say, I am simply smooth. So smooth in fact that I am like a combo of Cantona and Berba! ha ha
Now where the heck is smartalex? The real one of course
Pogba’s agent says his situation is “Precarious”. negotiations are ongoing yet there’s barely any development. and that points to only one thing and that is pogba departing to serie A. His agent says there’s a willingness for pogba and the club to continue being associates but why hasn’t he signed yet? the whole situation is mind boggling because you’d expect that now he’s so close to the first team he’d actually start showing commitment. Guess that’s too much to ask.
Apparently he wasn’t happy to be left out against ajax. I think that’s Fergie’s harsh way of saying “Well you’ve been on the bench once or twice, it’s a taster of what is to come if you really want to be at the club but if you want to leave then your loss”
@Cedars – Van Persie over our Ronnie? Really?
Ryan Giggs scores the winner in dying minutes on his 900th appearance. If I was seeing United for the first time, I would say that the game was scripted. That it was all fixed. But, this is United. We are never beaten till that final whistle is blown and the game is truly over. Was jumping like nuts when he scored. Been doing it for over 20 years and will continue doing it as long as he wears the RED of United. #legend
Ryan Giggs – Tearing you apart since 1991
Cedars,
Lol
at RedManWalking,
never mind, RVP is Cedar’s football god
RMW
Good to see you fella! Of course, RvN over any body mate! haha
Just read my post directed at King Eric and you will understand
@Cedars – Ya, read that mate. But, to compare RvP over our Ronnie, even for banter, is a no-no for me! But, if it is RvN as you mentioned in your post, I don’t mind
Ruud is one of the greatest strikers to play for our Majestic Club.
And great to see you too, mate.
@Sandeep – I have been noticing the Gooneritis symptoms for some time. Who else would have RvP as a footballing God while supporting a club that has had the likes of Giggs, Cantona, Best, Scholes, Charlton, ROBSON play for it?
GET IIIIIN GOING TO SEE ANDREW COLE, LEE SHARPE AND OUR PREMIER LEAGUE TROPHY TOMORROW AT DUBAIII WAHOOOO !!!!!!!! GOING FUCKING MENTAL RIGHT NOW CAN’T BELIEVE THIS!!!!!!!
What I loved about Sunday- the celebrations. I could watch it a million times.
These kind of things are made for us
i think you need to mention that Evra was ran over against norwich. Hopefully he steps up while our captain Vidic is out. He’s been out of form this whole season. To be honest, this season, i would’ve prefer Fabio.
totally agree that Welbeck should have scored.
from my point Utd did an Ok game and controlled it nearly all the way.
We weren´t threaten by high crosses into the box and Norwich didn´t create so much overall. Then it was DW that should have ” closed the game”. Unfortunately Chica don´t get the right support with Rooney on the sideline and the verdict is ” not good enough”.
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I was skeptical with De Gea coming in for Van Der Saar, but holy crap he’s improved exponentially since the start of the season. This much improvement in so short a time? The sky is the limit for this guy. Great move Fergie!