1. We needed to win yesterday and we did. There would have been no shame in drawing or even losing to the third best team in the country away from home but, with City winning on Saturday, we really couldn’t afford to drop any points. The pressure that was on the team ahead of kick-off was massive and with the exception of the opening ten minutes, we were more or less battered in that first half. Unlike a team ready to succumb to pressure though, we scored at a brilliant time, just before the whistle was blown to end the half. This was a huge result.
2. In the newsletter on Friday I said that Wayne Rooney had to get us going again and he did exactly that. He has now scored twice against Spurs, City and Liverpool this season and three times against Chelsea and Arsenal. He is is a big game player, our most important player and it is no surprise he scored the opening goal. He managed to lose Kyle Walker from the corner and gave Brad Friedel no chance with his header. It was one of the most undeserved leads I can remember but you aren’t going to complain.
3. Antonio Valencia has been far and away our best winger this season, although stats would suggest that Nani and Ashley Young aren’t that far behind him. Valencia is on 9 assists, Nani on 8 and Young is on 7 after Sunday. After Young’s corner lead to Rooney’s opener, having contributed little else before that point, I wondered whether assisting goals justified his place in the team. Last weekend, Nani and Young were pretty poor all game, but both assisted goals in a 2-1 win. How much do we demand of our players? If we win the game because they assist a goal each, can we be annoyed that they’ve put in an average shift? The debate became null and void where Young was concerned though after he went on to score two goals. The first came from a clever throw in from Phil Jones, who had a game to forget otherwise, and a Nani cross. The ball came to Young and he did really well from a tight angle to put it in at the far post. The second was an excellent finish, one to rival the goal he scored in the 8-2 against Arsenal, curling it in to the top corner. Since his injury, Young has been off the boil. Are we about to see him hit the form he enjoyed in his first few games? Hopefully.
4. At 3-0 up, can you remember a time when we less deserved a scoreline? I could hardly believe it when that third went in. On the balance of play, you could hardly complain if it had been Spurs who were winning 3-0, however, when it came to chances, what did they really do? In the 90 minutes, David de Gea made a couple of good saves, but he was hardly bombarded. We put away three chances fair and square whilst the only goal Spurs managed was from a sloppy Ryan Giggs pass. Was I surprised we won 3-1, particularly after that first half? Yes. But the result wasn’t unfair. We created chances and took them and Spurs didn’t.
5. The one real moment of controversy came at 0-0 though when Emmanuel Adebayor had the ball in the back of the net. The ball came at him quickly, he moved his left arm towards the ball, controlled it with his arm, then flicked it in to the back of the net. If a United defender had stopped the ball from crossing the line with their arm in the same way Spurs fans would have been screaming for a penalty, so let’s just put that one to bed now.
6. I would feel happier if United were hitting good form as well as picking up the points, but the priority has to be to keep winning, and with fairly easy fixtures now, particularly in comparison to City, you’d fancy us to do that. United have dropped just 9 points on the road this season. To put that in to perspective, City have dropped 15, Spurs and West Brom 18, and Chelsea and Arsenal 22. When you consider we’ve played all the top teams away from home now, apart from City, that is a real achievement. I usually love/hate this part of this season. This year, I’m absolutely loving it. Roll on the next game…





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Aye! I agree there Scott! Bring it on!
It was Robbery, Dick Turpin style. Brilliant Reds loved every minute of it not many teams in Europe can win like that while getting battered for most of the game. Thats what I love about Utd.
Now bring it home.
UTD UTD UTD
Good summary Scott.
Point 4 was exactly my thinking yesterday. Spurs banged around the park, but until Defoe showed up they really didn’t trouble to put a consistent run of pressure on DeGea.
That aside, Credit to the ref for spotting the handball as that would have changed the game. But Spurs were typical selves v us. Not really showing up. Wish we could play them every week on present form.
Would like to say how ABU the commentary on the handball has been. Lots saying it should have been allowed on the balance of play. Balance of play? What a load of rubbish! A handball is just that. Not a goal. Honestly.
We won because we played football and put the ball in the net………… 3 times!
Spurs didn’t manage to do it legally until the 85th minute and the rest is history.
Bring on Athletico Bilbao and then bring on WBA. Both very winnable games.
It’s goals that win matches and we scored more than them – we made our (few) chances count
Really looking forward to seeing us play well though
Not actually heard any Spurs fans complain about the handball from Adebeyor and theres plenty of them down here. Its the press, commentators and ABU’s that have made a mountain out of it.
It was handball, end of.
Actually I was more shocked when we were 3-0 up at home against Chelsea earlier this season. At least Chelsea actually threatened us in that game. Tottenham had half chances other than the Adebawhore goal.
Speaking of which, sorry, but he uses the hand to control the ball. So imo the intention is there. Correctly disallowed. Don’t know what Gaz was thinking on Sky saying it should have counted…
Citeh’s new sponsors are 3-in-1 Oil.
You can hear their bottoms squeaking from here
Costas
Its in his ABU Sky contract
Clause 1 You must never agree with anything thats in favour of Man Utd.
Inside Red Nev was going Mental and he hid it well.
I think the most shocking thing from the game was that we actually got some BIG decisions in our favour from Martin Atkinson! Who’d have thought that, huh?!
James – At least Dick Turpin wore a mask! Ha ha. We mashed the spuds on the counter!
@James
Haha, that would explain it mate. Especially when you consider that Souness agreed with him. The funny thing is that even Alan Shearer and Lee Dixon said on MOTD that Atkinson got it right. But then again, BBC isn’t Harry Redknapp’s press office. Sky is…
Willie
We sure Did.
Got to do one now.
UTD UTD UTD
I loved Rene’s celebration for one of our goals? Not sure what one it was though. The old fist pump! Get in there!
James21, Agree, my Spurs mates were philosophical at 3-0. But not at 1down or 2down. By 3down they were well lubricated and couldn’t be to plussed.
Simple game I told em.
You put the nice leather ball in the back of the net and the ref awards you a point.
We’d do well to remind ourselves that the only points we dropped at home last year was against WBA.
It would be great to not only get a result, but to not wait till injury time to put it to bed!
I’m sure SAF will make sure theres no complacency with these so called “easy” games.
No such thing, we need to remember that.
Atkinson had a pretty good game taken as a whole, the 2 yellows on Jones and Sandro we’re pretty weak but he also let a few of the more “professional” fouls pass with only a freekick (such as the one by Scholes outside our box). He didn’t fall for Attaboy,whore’s flopping around like a dying fish on multiple occasions either though I would have liked to see him produce a card against him for that ridiculous attempt to draw a pen against Rio. And since he got all of the big decisions correct, do you think Sir Alex has taken him off his “you need a fair ref” list?
gotta say as a spurs fan there’s no shame in losing to (imo) the best team in england however it still smarts & the expectation of a win was there, which goes to show how much we’ve improved in the last 2-3 seasons. .
it’s just the inaction of redknapp that mystifies me… why on earth defoe was kept off the pitch until 10 minutes or so before the whistle is beyond me & why does he not recognise that adebayor has as much 1st time ball control as an under 4 year old playing his first game – maybe that england job is getting to him after all…
i keep hearing that united crushed spurs… not too sure of that but as you say .. it’s goals which make a difference & we are still a team improving & building so maybe next year.
…anyway, good luck for the title (i won’t bother about that mickey mouse europa cup as i know you guys arn’t really interested in that either.;0)
JC
Lets face it, it cost SAF at the time, but does anyone really believe Atkinson would’ve refereed fairly if he hadn’t made such a fuss?
Atkinson had fucked us over too many times previously.
This time, he knew the eyes of the world were on him, he hadn’t had a United game since that infamous day and for once played fair.
Re your question, no, not yet!
An amazing thing happened at the pub while I was watching the game. For our 3-0 goal, as Young pulled inside and layed it on his right foot i screamed “Curl it, good dammit!”
And as he took the shot, a mate of mine jumped up from his seat, sailed across the floor on hes knees and celebrated the goal. All of this just as Young made contact with the ball! I tell you, he’s a fucking psychic, had a great laugh about it afterwards!
Point beeing, you’ve seen Young do that so ridicilously many times that my mate actualy knew that would go in. What did Andy Cole tweet afterwards? Worldclass. Trademark Ashley Young. Well, spot on.
it was a very good win, for the time being we will see performances like this because if the state of the engine room, and the constant injury problems, I thought the game was 50/50 and a 3 1 victory not many can complain, even though the performance was allot to be desired
InMyBlood.
Well said mate. WBA are flying high. And they are effectively the team that got AVB handed his head on his shield. Roy Hodgson is nobodies fool. They are high up the form table as well. Baggies havn’t lost since mid Jan and last 3 have been good wins.
Feb 12 1-5 Away v Wolves
Feb 25 4-0 Home v Sunderland
Mar 3 1-0 Home v Chelsea
Former Red Ben Foster will be looking to stick it to us and will likely play out of his ski.
Still like us for the 3 points.
*** out of his skin*** Typos! Shhheeesssh!
Always a brilliant read Scott! Spot on.
Bernstein has signalled out three names for the England job
Harry
James from FIFA 12
MG from Football Manager 12
A fourth name is being considered but cannot be named because he is foreign.
Goodnight United
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At this stage in the season, Fergie, pls roll on the mind games. Pressure on city, pressure on city. Make them shit their pants. Make them feel scared to come out and play. Make them feel it is inevitable, for man utd to win this league. A hand of destiny maybe. Make them to think that no matter what they do, manutd will still come at them with all we have got, and that would be the beginning of their failure. Mind games Fergie. Aint no one better to do that than you. Halla.
Sorry but have to disagree – Spurs gave us hardly any trouble in the danger zone at all and other than the Adebayour handball they were shit – oh and go back to the replay and notice he fouled Evans right before – was the goal called off for the handball or the foul? How many real chances did they really create? a few shots from distance – we,ve had way more real pressure from the likes of Stoke
Yes they had 90% (or whatever) of the play but fuck me they did not threaten. Modric was great in space, as were Sandro and Livermore but JFC that was because Nani and Young stuck wide and did not pinch in when needed.
Will comment that Jones should be employed in the middle of the defence (or just in front) – he ain’t a fullback. Young needs to get his head up a bit quicker when putting a ball into the area – as poor as TV in that regard. Evra is turning into a very poor excuse for a left back – in fact does he have a left leg? Skinned by Sturridge /the Norwich game he was shit defending – every cross came from the right/Lennon did him again a few times.
Who wants to buy Modric – gifted us #2 and great going forward but very poor reading the defensive aspect.
Rio yesterday (back problems and all) was a giant _ Evans not far behind!! The lad has come on leaps and bounds the last few months – full of confidence and dead solid every game. Scholes ran out of steam.
DDG what needs to be said
Anyway on the + side – what a result !!!
UNITED 20 – 2012 (and The Europa Cup)
yeah this squeaky bum time is fergie’s favourite, probably squeaky of out sheer excitement not nervousness. its up to the old wily knight to keep us not mentally strong, no complacency, and haunt shitty.
This is where our lads start coming back, proving that they were worth the wait. put em to the sword united, i say.
BREAKING NEWS:
Early 2012, Welbeck & Jones were checked into the local hospital, upon medical examination and prognosis, doctors affirmed that the duo have caught a virus, and its effects while not necessarily physically damaging, can potentially affect the cranial region.Affected, its effects are relatively long time. “Really contagious, this virus”, quotes the doctor,”winning mentality ,they call it”. Till date scientists have been unable to find a cure.
Fletchtheman: love it, thats what it really boils down to doesnt it! hahaha put the leather ball in, and get awarded a point!
@Costas: Weren’t you shocked when we were 3 down at the Bridge? Bet nobody was surprised with the final scoreline on that, though.
Carry on, United!
i feel by the time we play citeh in their backyard, we will be topping the league and that game might actually be meaningless……. no 20 will be cruising home by then!
since the ABU wants the world to believe our team has been rubbish, can we get suarez for rooney, downing for young and henderson for carrick…………………………..
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Hi People Of RoM
A big kudos to our boys for just dropping 2 points (At bridge) in the tough fixtures. Really City would be pulling their hairs and will be very nervous.
I agree with Its in my blood that WBA are not going to be easy. But I feel we are also in top form now. I know we can be complacent sometime but from what I remember we never are complacent in March-April-May time. This is where we are most dangerous.
If you look at three games that are coming in the league for us and City then I expect us to be leading after that.
City have to got to Swansea And Stoke and Play unpredictable Chelsea at home.
So I atleast expect 2 points to be dropped by city if not more. If they win all the 3 games then Credit to them. But At this moment I will bet on United to win the league.
But first let us take care of Athletico bilbao. Playing the first leg at home is never great but we are United and we are The Best.
Point about the assists….everywhere I’ve seen Nani as having 13 assists (10 in the League, 3 in Europe). Valencia’s on 12 as well I think.
As for this Thursday’s game – the League is priority but I’d like to do well in the Europa League. And I know West Brom are in good nick…..but it’s at home. I think Wolves away next week is actually the trickier fixture.
So I’d say we put out a strong side this Thursday, try to get a good result (won’t be easy, Bilbao are no mugs and Bielsa is one of my favourite coaches). Then we can maybe rest players in the return leg, coz the Wolves game will be tough IMO.
Could we please stop this…we have the easier run in… We had an easy group in the Champions league, we lost. We had an easier running towards the end of the year before this run of matches since the FA cup, Blackburn and Newcastle happened. The players get our mood and they will feel that things are now easier but we should remain focused till the end. Easier running my foot, we have 33 points to play for so let’s play like nobody’s business. Rio said every much from now on is a cup final, I suggest we should look at it that way.
Have to say Ash Young Knows the knack of scoring goals. He has been doing that consistently for his country England.
I think he is more useful when he plays behind the striker as an attacking midfielder. He could easily score 10+ goals every season .
I would like to see Young play behind Rooney with Nani and valencia in wings
Rooney
Nani Young Valencia
I know SAF may never adopt this formation but it could work out well. If needed Young could got in wings and Nani or valecia could play in centre.
Maybe next season we may see that.
kk says “The players get our mood and they will feel that things are now easier but we should remain focused till the end. ”
Don’t quite agree on that. I know Players can get complacent but we have to remember they are professionals. Especially when you play for clubs like United there is no room for complacency. Like I said in my first post of today we are never complacent during this period.
But I agree with you that no games are easy and Sir Alex and his boys know that. So I think we don’t need to worry on that front.
One game at a time. Just take one game at a time. BELIEVE.
King Eric got his wish! Reactions!
King Eric is good at provoking reactions
I was my usual self ”hic, hic!” so in that state I find it difficult to appreciate anything the opposition does. I have failed to find time to watch the highlights so my biased observation was that Spurs had a lot of possesion and failed to do anything with it! So I dont agree that we were overun. Yes the manged to dominate Scholes and Carrick but our defence was resolute. So Spurs had good position which is expected of a top three team playing at home but we did well not to concede in that first half. Its nice for the team to be exposed to such matches so that you guage how they are able to handle constant presure (or a team with a lot of possesion) and in that test Rio and Evans came out tops. So to me it was a nice victory with a few lessons.
And about the dissalowed goal being a turning point I disagree. I the goal had stood it was going to drawn a response from United we have seen that happen ALL the time. Thats why United are CHAMPIONS! and …………. 20!
” good possesion” typo!
Win is a win!
Ash,
They are professionals but also very human. So let us hope they put their emotions aside, the negative ones and enhance the positive ones. Just as Jeet said one day at a time. I feel City will drop some in the coming weeks but we should not be waiting for them and fail on our part like the last time Chelsea won the title.
Spurs got in our faces and wouldnt let us settle into our passing game . Didn’t do them to many favours as theygot leggyand started to slow up after 60 mins . We make nothing easy ever but deserved the win off the backs of De-Gea Jonny Evens and Rio .As for the remaining fixtures Let us focus on our own . When did we ever look up to Citeh ? NEVER . Its for us to shape our own end game . Consistancy is now the key .
@Wiuru: A couple of weeks ago I was playing in a team of 30-somethings against a bunch of college kids. They left us ragged for the first 30 minutes and only some heroics from our goalie kepts us down by one one goal. Almost the entire team crowded in our own half to stave them off. and then, somehow, we managed to get a goal after around an hour. This irked their ego, because “they were the better team” (kids!) and they threw all caution to the winds. Only by then, they were also tired. We fucked them for the next 20 minutes winning 4-1. What was funny was that as each of our goals went in, they got madder and madder, and came charging at us. We played them on the counter and merrily fucked them one goal at a time.
Not comparing a stupid kickaround with an EPL match, but just saying….it’s pretty close to what happened at WHL. As soon as they went down at the break, they threw all caution to the winds, got pulled out of position, tried to dominate us physically (Thereby losing their own focus) and then the Ashley Young goals just knocked the stuffing out of them.
I think SAF is pulling a master stroke , he’s telling our players that they must win every game that’s there mind set . He is saying that the Derby is the game that will deside the league so the City player will look to that match and take their eye off the up coming games . Masterful.
Dazbomber
HI mate, that is a very good point regarding the boss. Not only is he a great football manager but he is also a master at saying the right things at the right time. In my opinion it takes both to make champions and winners
Our fixture list is deceptive. Playing teams that are struggling to stay up can be a more difficult task then safe a mid-table team when the season is drawing to a close…
Furthermore we have seen it over and over from the boss, MASTER of the game he is…. Wenger in years gone by, Benitez (haha) and one of my personal favorites, Keegan…. He has a way of destroying them mentally….. Wankini’s time will come in due course
@Stenis: True that. Just look at the fight Blackpool put up on the last day of the season.
@Dazbomber: Sorry, but that’s stretching it a bit too much. City players dont hang on to every workd that SAF utters in the media, you know. Mancini will be telling City players exactly the same thing – that they have to win every match. He might be less effective in communicating it than SAF is in communicating it to United players, but to imagine that SAF has greater ability to influence City players than Mancini, merely by throwing a few words to the Press, is a bit too much IMO. Not quite Inception, you know?
Jeet
Morning my friend………I would tend to agree with Dazbomber on this one, however its Mancini that the boss will eventually get to… Once you get their manager nervous it affects the whole team.
As I said we have seen it far too many times in the past and more often than not it works
Jeet- Every since this Derby match has been mentioned by SAF, the press, sky and radio stations have talked about it being the game that decides the league .We Will have it won by then ,City will get sucked in by it all.
Coime ON you Tigers…. Do one over them sheep shaggers tonight and make this fool a very happy chappy
We went for three points and got them.Great stuff United.Any points dropped now by City will be a catastrophe in their eyes and nobody can exploit slip ups like United.
Off topic but Laugh? I nearly cried watching the comedic LFCTV last night. It was hilarious. According to same gelled hairdo as 87 Aldridge IF they had Van Persie they would be streets ahead in the league. Well you haven’t you rat faced cunt you have Carrol. He had the audacity to slag Wengers purchases. Err Henderson, Carrol, Downing , Coates and so on?? The arrogance of these cunts holds no bounds. I was in stitches. They are building for the future. If they win the FA Cup which they are taking as a given , 2 pots and SIXTH place finish is a great season. They have 11 points from TEN games. They have scored less than Wolves. Honestly lads its the best comedy show on telly.
Willie – Always love Renee and Strudwicks celebrations.
Scott – Spot on pal.
Rentboys will be out of cup tonight.
bayored – Ha. seems I did get the Reactions thread mate!
So Nanis new deal is worth something between 100k and 160k from what I heard/read.
King Eric
Must get me LFCTV then, sounds like a good laugh mate! Actually used to get it but never watched it….
Fucking deluded idiots
good morning all REDS
nice read on wing partnership
http://www.redrants.com/flying-partnerships-give-united-wingers/
RE article mentioned in my previous post, I disagree with Nani & Rafael part. Those two had some good games and can cause utmost damage when compared to any other wing pairs we have.
Posted this last night, but I’ll do ti again. Each and everyone of us loves Sir Alex Ferguson! When I see the boss bowing to the Stretford end, I feel uneasy. WE should be bowing to him!
Cedars – That’s the thing, the dipper TV channel is free! that’s how shit it is! See ya’all later! 19
What a weird game that was! I was celebrating those goals like hell!
When the first one went in, I had a little moment of silence just thinking “what just happened? Did we really just score??”
Found it a pretty funny game and it’s just good that we got the 3 points we needed
I would much rather have the three points in the bag playing ugly whilst taking your chances than crisp,fluent style of football n lose.This if you recall has been the salient undoing of the gunners in seasons gone by.The gaffer knows how to make hay on a rainy day,so we as fans should just get behind the team as Giggs12g0 stated
Great read ! Bout wingers & tactics @ Ancha.
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I have therefore thanked the FA for the consideration but have declined their offer.
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Afternoon United
Cedars – Hello mate. Hope you are well . As Willie said its free and when I need cheering up I tune it. It really is THAT funny.
ped – Cheers pal. Hope your lot go on to get 3rd spot.
Its in my blood – Hope your old dear is well mate.
bayoRed
Thanks pal.
Those who are in UK are blessed with comedy channels like LFCtv
Great reactions Scott! I agree with everything that you’ve said.
ped, I always love other fans giving us the respect we deserve. I don’t mind grudges but when people acknowledge what we’ve achieved, it is nice. Great to see that and kudos to you for that.
King Eric, I am sure you have many scouser friends. Mine provide more entertainment than any LFC channel ever could. I was speaking to a colleague recently after their Carling Cup win and he was over the moon. He talked about this being a new start for them and how under Dalglish they could finally get somewhere. He also said they were looking at Jones and Young first and Sir Alex stole them from under LFC’s nose. The conversation then moved to Carroll and he made comparisons to Berbatov. He said that Berba was not that great in his first two years but came through last year. He said they had hopes for Carroll on that regard. He went on and on and there was little I could do. I could’ve given him back at a lot of places but he is a soft guy and I didn’t want to really hurt him in that sense. Still, I couldn’t help at the blind faith, devotion or whatever shown by Liverpool fans that make them look beyond any levels of logical reasoning. There isn’t another club that can do that to its fans and I think Liverpool are truly unique in indoctrinating their fans like that. It never fails to surprise me or make me laugh when I look at how deluded some LFC fans close to me are.
The lads have done the hard part picking up good points from a set of tricky fixtures don’t see any reason they’d switch off this close to the end,if anything get more intense to finish the job.
i have a weird idea.
AVB has talent, has the ability to be a great manager in the future, why not take him on as assistant manager or scout or in some capacity, that way by the time sir alex retires we’ll have a good manager ready waiting in the wings to take over.
by that time he’ll be well acquainted with the united way and will understand the history of our great club.
also he’ll be under the tutelage of one of the best managers ever!
can’t see this as a bad thing.
thoughts anyone?
United are 19 going on 20!
Hi MG
Haha…. All part of the protocol my friend, just the way its meant to be….
King Eric
All good my friend… In this case I will get the channel back and laugh away at the bastards
also my team for this thursday.
DDG
smalling evans rio evra
nani carrick anderson young
rooney chicho
atletico are not an easy side to beat.!
they performed admirably in drawing 2-2 with the ‘lab rats of spain’ barca
hope we go out and do the job! !!
Hello guys, Veseli starts for the first time for the reserves and Daehli on the bench. Great win on sunday and squeaky bum time in full force now!!
King Eric
You are absolutely spot on about Scouse mentality. I have a friend who is a liverpool fan. He says ” Liverpool are the best coz they don’t buy players” Hahahaha
Really they have small mentality and deserve to win nothing.
eric keane don’t think much of your idea mate AVB hasn’t proven himself to be a top manager yet,his rent boy project was a disaster,in todays game a manager has to be able to motivate players with big egos and pay checks,he was a failure at Chelsea because clearly the’ big names’ were just not interested in playing for him and ulitmatly got him fired
One of Sir Alex’s biggest asset is to slide top players into a rotation without them throwing the dummy away
Gotta say though Chelsea manager has to be the best gig in the world 8 mths of work for 3 yrs of pay fucking Roman is a moron don’t see why he just doesn’t take the job,lol that would be fucking priceless may aswell take the comedy act to the final scene
I think the United performance looked worse than it was, definitely not a pretty win but went by the numbers and I can’t name a single player who had a bad game. I know we’re out of the Champions League but I’m surprised people have forgotten what a good counter attacking display should look like.
Doghouse – Jones wasn’t great, to be honest.
Evening reds,
Good reactions to the match,
I think we will be in great shape on injury front going into the run-in..
Wishing godspeed for Fletch and the Serbian tiger..
2 key and big game players should be like new signings next season
Highest paid footballers in the World:
1. David Beckham – LA Galaxy
Salary 2012: $40 million
2. Cristiano Ronaldo – Real Madrid
Salary 2012: $38 million
3. Lionel Messi – Barcelona
Salary 2012: $32 million
4. Samuel Eto’o – Anzhi Makhachkala
Salary 2012: $29 million
5. Ricardo Kaka – Real Madrid
Salary 2012: $25 million
6. Ronaldinho – Flamengo
Salary 2012: $24 million
7. Thierry Henry – New York Red Bulls
Salary 2012: $21 million
8. Wayne Rooney – Manchester United
Salary 2012: $20 million
9. Zlatan Ibrahimovic – AC Milan
Salary 2012: $17 million
10. Frank Lampard – Chelsea
Salary 2012: $17 million
Top scorers in Europe since Jan ’11 (exc. penalties): van Persie 40, C Ronaldo 39, Messi 37
How does david beckham still get paid that amount? his career has been on a decline for years. Probably has something to do with his image rights and modelling (things that have absolutely nothing to do with being a quality player)
Balaji – Hello mate. Ha. That is EXACTLY the sort of thing I am talking about. They ARE funny aren’t they. Carrol/Berba. Hhmm . Yeah I can see the similarities. For example Carrol’s deft touch, intelligence and use of the ball. Not to mention his touch of genius. Yeah right. Carrol is a fucking pub player. They really do believe they are entering a golden period under Dogleash. Fulham have better players in Dempsey and Dembele and that new geezer. They are awful. Henderson is dogshit whose head is bigger than his body. Adams Hollywood passes never come off. Carrol can’t run. Downing can’t assist. They have some shocking players in that side. They are all putting it down to Stevie Me’s abscence though. That cunt aint produced in 3 seasons now and will make fuck all difference. As I said they already in their tiny deluded minds have the FA Cup sewn up. The best bit though is they consider the league cup and SIXTH place finish a good season. Dogleash will be gone next season. Oh but they are the makings of a great side arent they? Fuck me.
@samuel – No idea either. He was there to promote USA football, but didn’t really acheive that.
Don’t know if it’s me but I still think it’s quite sad the way his career went, more so when you compare him to Scholes or Giggs. He seemed to think his activites off the pitch was better than what he did on the pitch. It’ll be 10 years next year since he left United and he’s won 1 spain title and 1 MLS title.
I wonder if he’ll look back when he’s retired regret any of it.
I can’t stand chelsea as a club but i can’t believe people are solely blaming AVB for the crap going on at chelsea.
Is it his fault that a couple of senior cunts run that club (drogba, cole, terry e.t.c) and when things aren’t going their way, they throw up tantrums like bulldogs smoking crack-pipes, point fingers at the manager rather than taking a look at their pathetic self and ask the question of “Maybe all these footballing debacle has been our own doing and maybe we’re just grade A pricks for not performing for the manager”.
I hear all these bullshit that he was too young to run that dressing room. Who gives a flying fuck about his age?. Fact remains, he has the credentials and won trophies galore before joining, that warranted respect regardless of twats like terry who may look down on villas boas because he once worked under extravagant spending arrogant fucker mourinho.
I think this is yet another classic case of players having far too much power, the manager brought in isn’t given the full permission to stamp his own authority. Blame should also be pointed at roman who probably is too close to the senior players, giving them the ability to eradicate managers they don’t get on with.
terry, drogba e.t.c are finished as outstanding performers at the highest level. If chelsea had any decent youth policy (and believed in it) then these players would have been shifted out but they’ve been left there in their comfort zone and now they all feel invisible.
When AVB came in, he should have been given the power to shift players that are over the hill and should keep a couple of experienced ones but that didn’t happen and they’re now facing the consequences (which i’m glad about). I’m not saying AVB was totally innocent but he is far from the main catalyst of the shenanigans.
eric keane. AVB? Are you actually serious? He is a fucking clown and a jumped up little wanker. I don’t want no marks like him anywhere near United mate. Fuck that. As it goes I do have to hand it to him for at least trying to fuck the old guard off but his tactics are naive and he is out of his depth. I said after his appointment he would do fuck all.
eric – Furthermore pal if we are gonna take on 34 year old muppets like him why wouldn’t we take Ole on who has more nous in his little finger than that mug?
AVB hasn’t got the balls to be anywhere the United management team. He couldn’t handle Lampard and Terry by the sounds of it. I would of shot them both with Ashley Coles air rifle.
@Briggs & Samuel
No way but downhill after united! Pogba would do well to know that!
Kamshyaa – Ha. They don’t buy players? 20 odd on the racist, 35 on the pub player, 20 on Frankenstein and 20 ish on Downing. No thats only 100 million ish. Your mate is an idiot pal, no offence!!!
Samuel – Oh I agree mate. As I said at least he tried to get the old cunts out which was probably his brief when he got the job. Now all of a sudden the media are taking Fat Franks and Terrys side. Heard last night “the senior players aren’t keen on Di Matteo” Who the fuck do they think they are to dictate who should and who shouldnt manage. Rotten to the core that club.
samuel – Worse still is Ibrahimovic getting paid that amount. Aside from the Arsenal game I am yet to see him have a top game.
Anyway we should all be shit scared of the rentboys because they are gonna get Pep and start peforming like Barca!!! Yeah.
Whats all this bollocks about Pep not being able to handle the pressure? Oh boo fucking hoo. Suddenly everything isnt rosy in his la liga garden and he doesn’t like it. I hate the way he is lauded by some as the greatest ever manager. He is a good manager but look at the fucking players. When he has done it at the top level like Fergie for 30 plus years then he can be regarded as the best.
Briggsy – i agree. I think he’s the epitome of a footballer who chose everything and anything (modelling, walking around hollywood with his twig legs wife who was pretty crap at singing, turning up on Ali G’s showe.t.c) over his footballing career.
Personally, i don’t think he even comes to the talents of the maestros that are ryan giggs and scholes. I think he worked extremely hard to make up for his evident deficiencies which is fair enough, left united for madrid and never had any success there (i think madrid wanted to cash in on his image really), left with one title after being dropped but played his skins out in the last year of his contract.
I think him turning down PSG to stay at LA galaxy says it all about his decision makings. Football clearly was never a priority for him but the fame and cash definitely was, his project to transform the US into a football crazed country will continue but if the likes of pele, bobby moore, franz beckenbeaur e.t.c (who were outstanding brilliant players) couldn’t do it, what makes david beckham think he’ll succeed at that?
If Pep goes to Chelsea, we’ll see how good he really is. One thing managing Barcelona with all their talent, but the rentboys need major surgery on that squad. I think he’d be mad to to there, but money talks in the end. That’s something Roman has plenty of!
King eric – it’s too easy for players to point fingers, why can’t they ever take full responsibility?. A manager can implement tactics as well as he wants but players have to perform, non of these so called senior players stepped up.
And when they get dropped, they try ruin the manager’s reign (which they’ve done with scolari, ancelotti and the clueless relegating clubs master avram grant).
With roman abrahmovic, chelsea will continue to suffer from being destabilised (an owner who thinks he can easily win the champions league).
On ibrahimovic, he’s a dilemma and more often than not flatters to deceive in crucial games but if anyone knows the secrets of succeding in serie a then it is him. Continues to score bucket loads of goals and drags teams over there titles, suppose that warrants his salary in the eyes of clubs that purchase him. In my view, players are over-paid but this is the age of lavish spending so what can you do.
@Samuel – The thing that irks me, as a massive United fan (which he supposedly is) is, that he had the greatest gift and threw it away in pursuit or stardom and fame. Not money, as he would of earned more than enough playing football, but actual fame. I remember he turned down Barcelona for Madrid, and you could tell it was always about the image.
Most of me wonders if all his decisions were decided for him by his wife. When he left for Madrid he changed his agent who also looked after his missus, one that only knew about the music industry, for fucks sake.
I was hoping he would join PSG, nice to see him play in a proper league, but I’m guessing Victoria said no to that one. God knows what he’s going to do when he retires from football, probably just follow him wife around, as per usual.
Hello RoM.
What our next opponent thinks.
,” Llorente said to EP.
“Rooney is a real killer. He has a great mentality and is a great inspiration for his team-mates.
I see this in him as well. —-8. Wayne Rooney – Manchester United
Salary 2012: $20 million that is about right.
Pep and Jose? That is the question? Sounds like Spain sucks all the fun out of winning for a top gaffer, No Moyes, AW or SAF there.
Pep and Jose both have clauses in their contracts to leave if Man Utd come calling!?!???
I watched the Spurs game for the 3rd time. Evans praise is so worthy. The more I see Jones the more I see his home is MF and a force as well. His style of play will lead to missing 10-15 games a year with knocks.
I’m a fan and respect SAF so much I feel bad for roster speculation, his genius in picking the right team for the game is awesome. Jones play have keep one of my personal favorites on the bench. Rafa, both twins. Jones comes in and says I’m to good to sit!!! How fucking cool is that!! The Twins seem to have the right mind set, happy to be here and on the 1st team.
You can’t sack the players though? AVB was clueless from start. He made terrible decisions at every step of the way. He did have the right idea trying to stand up to certain players. His cull of players should of come last summer, but maybe Roman wouldn’t of sanctioned that kind of move. Fact of the matter is he wasn’t respected by the senior players at Chelsea. Once you lose the dressing room, you’re a lame duck manager. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach/manager. The premiership is a tough place to try and cut your cloth.
Breaking: Red Issue will sue GM Police for lost income and damages? I thought they sold all those by the Ajax game anyway. I am sure the lads run a tight ship financially and something like this could be difficult to weather. Maybe this is more about the principle of the matter. Support your local press is my motto. If you don’t the only voice you will hear is big money and the Glazers.
What do you lads think?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9126216/Owners-of-seized-United-fanzine-Red-Issue-plan-to-sue-Greater-Manchester-Police-police.html
Hey Wolfie, In the US in the 70′s George Steinburger purchased the Yankees at the start of Free Agency in US sports he won 2 world series and the fired good baseball people over and over again for the next 15 years he fuck up the team, then hied a good GM and Joe Torre as the manager steeped back enough and they won a lot again. Roman is our best friend and The Rent Bozs double edge sword. Or night mare all the resources to win multiple CL titles and he fucks up his own party.
Chelsea made a huge mistake by sacking Ancelloti. Eventhough I hate chelski very much I respected Ancelloti as manager. Roman is a cunt and he doesn’t know anything about football.
I really hope they finish out of top 4. Guys like Terry, Cole, Drogba don’t give two cents about their club. I Don’t hate Lampard that much but he has also made the job of AVB tougher.
Really if I was a chelsea fan I would be pretty much worried . I am eager to see Where Ladyboy Torres will go at the end of season. Now this is what you call a FLOP.
Ash. Chelsea and Real Madrid are very good examples of how ownership with plenty of financial pull can over manage. Let’s hope the Glazers are learning. But in my view the years after Fergie leaves are going to result in very very bad blood from fans. How can it not really? Will be very interesting times to be a red…. gods help us all!
Zibbie – Roman wants the champions league more than anything. I think we’ll continue to see these changes at Chelsea until they succeed. That probably means more managers getting huge pay offs! Still, he has delivered Chelsea 3 league titles. Before he arrived, Chelsea were barely challengers. They won the odd FA cup. Finished in and around the top 5, 6 places. It is as you say, the double edged sword!
FletchTheMan- I know when SAF leaves we will have a tough period but we won’t have the situation like chelsea. Glazer howsoever bad they are never interfere with the manager’s work. And Sir alex himself said he would like to be associated with the club even after his retirement, So its good for us.
The core of our club is very strong and its very difficult to change that.
Ash – I liked Ancelloti too? He was dispatched like a a piece of garbage. Glad he’s a away from Chelsea. This is a guy who won trophies with Milan as a player and a coach!
anyone got streams for united’s reserve game against west brom tonight?? would be much appreciated cheers guys!
Willie- Even last season Carlo did a good job with chelsea. He gave us a good fight which we won comfortably but Now chelsea aren’t even giving a fight.
I seriously hope they miss out on champions league spot. It would be a massive blow for them.
MUFC v WBA Reserves:
Amos;
DeLaet Keane Fornasier Fryers;
Vermijl Tunnicliffe Veseli Petrucci;
Lingard Keane
SUBS Massacci Johnstone Giverin Daehli Wilson.
Keane is on a real run of form so look for him to score.
Great to see Tunnicliffe back from loan. He is a beast.
Also Congrats to Daehli (17) & Wilson(16) making squad for the first time, up from the Academy.
No sign of Paul Pogba fueling fears that he won’t play again if he doesn’t sort his contract. Anyone have any news on that situation?
Get in you reds.
Breaking News:
Harry interview
Harry is it true you want the Chelsea job because of the financial gain you intend to make?
Harry holds up a board
“money money money in a rich mans world”
I have a great feeling that this Vaseli kid could be a future star for us. Tell me if I am wrong but Isn’t Vaseli a defender?
I am also worried with Pogba’s situation. It doesn’t look pretty.
Good luck to our reserves.
Evening all
Good luck to our reserves, if anyone has access to the match please keep us posted.
As for Pep to Chelsea, he would be a fool to take the job, in fact anyone would be a fool…. However as Willie mentioned money talks and if you could be in a job for a few months and walk away with millions then why not What a joke of a club the rent boys are, small time and zero class
Ash, think it’s Veseli mate. not to sound like the lub cream
Heard he is very versatile, big, and quick. Came over from Cittay elites because he wasn’t getting enough opportunities. We will see eh. The next John O’Shea if we are lucky. Bit strange, the kid had a nice Wiki site the day we signed him but then taken down. Bitters?
Listed him as
DOB 11.20.92 Height: 1.83m (approx 6’0″). Interested how he does.
Great move by Chelsea imo.the team wouldn’t play for AVB now he’s gone there will be a big difference in the performances, all good as far as I’m concerned.
Parry
Problem at Chelsea is the players… Way too many inflated egos….CLLC, Cole, Drogba etc think they actually run the club, I blame that on the owner because he has allowed them to get away with it. Unless a manager gets proper support from Abra it will never work regardless of who is in charge
Cedars, Spot on. Exactly what I was saying to my dad today. Roman has corrupted that club to the core. The only person who was able to take charge of all these players was Mourinho and he did that really well because it was his team. All his successors have been handed what is basically Mourinho’s team and asked to go through a season without ever being given the time to build their own team. Therein lies the problem. Roman is basically like a petulant fan. He wants success but he is willing to wait for it. I wonder if he runs all his business like that and, if so, how is he successful then?
Balaji
Hope all is well my good friend, how is the health?
I would argue that it was Mureen’s team, he inherited a decent squad from Ranieri who was yet another victim. Granted Mureen won them trophies and that was the only reason he lasted as long as he did…
Either way, they are good for a laugh Two of my best friends are renties and have been for ages, embarrassed as fuck the both of them
Nice interview with Ryan Tunnicliff. That’s a proper loan spell. Played 29 games for Darren Ferguson’s side. Wish we could get that type of return for all our loanees.
Get in Ryan, Get in Reserves. Hope they batter WBA but always tough when they play a side sprinked with seasoned senior players.
hello everybody, this is my first post in ROM but i always follow the news here..i’m man.united fan from Indonesia.
i am really glad that we won in WHL since we were not playing well for majority of the game but win is a win.
regarding AVB dismissal, i think he had it coming. he has little tactical nous Gary Neville had more than him. so, whoever suggest him as assistant manager for united, i disagree. it’s better to appoint Ole Solskjaer as our assistant manager and prepare him as the successor of SAF. he is very intellegent footballer and manager and he has that winning mentality. he also has respect from the player and the fans so he will be given time to succeed.
Well here is news that Pogba has signed for Juventus: http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/sir-alex-ferguson-furious-as-paul-pogba-signs-for-juventus
Now this is not confirmed by British press, so I would take with a huge pinch of salt, but well it is the shape of things to come I think.
Come ON you TIGERS…. Get stuck in and eat those sheep shagging bastards alive
Cedars – Regarding your text spot on. No sooner had I typed that Pep comment I tuned into talkshit to hear Barca arse licker egghead Hunter stating that Pep is THE best about in terms of tactics, motivating, intelligence and everything. Fuck off Hunter. He is a great manager no question but better than Fergie etc? Is he fuck. When he has been around longer than 4 years then I will listen. He said Barca were in ruins till he rocked up and he could do the same with Chelsea. Could he fuck. Those Barca lads have been playing that way since kids. Now the heat is on in La Liga he cannot hack it. Mind you not surprising though these comments from Hunter seeing as though he wrote the book “the making of a superteam”. Now there is no disputing they are a great side, I witnessed it first hand at Wembley but has he been 1 point off winning FIVE straight titles in five years? Has he fuck,. One more European Cup in a 5 year period more than Fergie yet they have a fucking arse licking book dedicated towards them. Fuck off Hunter you cunt.
CedarsDevil.
That’s as maybe but we don’t play them again this season so if their game is upped it is to our benefit and that’s all I care about.
Great to see Tunni back in the reserves. A proper Red unlike a certain French cunt. Do one Pogba.
when mouriniho took over madrid first thing he did was get rid of raul and guti who would have been running to the president when they weren’t playing maybe avb should have done the same thing.
Oh I see everybody including the media + its sheep, have finally took notice that in fact we are on the backs of Shitty, who have been stung in the leg regarding their next 11 fixtures.
As Man Shitty limp closer + closer to their surrendering of the league, it is the media now who are slowly begininng to show signs of nerves as they reluctantly have to report our form of late and how we go in with the easier of the run in.
What they and the ball sucking pundits don’t want to let slip is that “its ours to lose” ! Always has been.
They praise Shitty for their squad depth, but not the team who has no Vidic,Fletcher & 12 players out for the majority of 2011-12.
Well our balls will be sweeter when they come sucking, come end of May !
20th awaits.
Team for thursday:
De Gea
Fabio Smalling Evans Evra
Young Carrick Giggs Park
Rooney Chicha
PL is the priority, so I’d like to probably see Anderson,Jones& Berba to feature to keep legs fresh.
Cedars, All is well my friend. Going for the all-important second opinion (after being off meds for a month) this weekend and will update ROM on how it goes. Hope you’re doing great as always.
As for it being Ranieri’s team, I do agree with that. But Mourinho did bring some semblance of control to it. As you said, it might be due to the fact that he brought trophies but he was in-charge of that team. I don’t think any of the players have had the same amount of respect for any of his successors. Again as you said, it is because they all have bloated egos thanks to the owner.
As you said, that is their problem, not ours and the club are good for a laugh in general. I really do feel for AVB. This was a step he shouldn’t have taken at this point in his career and he was stupid enough to do that. He seems like strong enough bloke, so I hope he gets over it and becomes a decent enough manager in his own right.
King Eric
Sent the same text to James for a laugh Pep might be good, or is good and I agree with that But how much skill does it require to manage such a bunch of talented players? My 3 year old could give the half time talk and they will still win Great side, yes..Best ever? My arse
For anyone to even compare Pep to Fergie is a disgrace…..
New Red.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/norwegian-youngster-daehli-signs-man-utd-deal-2749881?utm_source=main_feed
Daehli is a quality little player.
Sky said BM were after him and other PL clubs as well.
I have said it before and I will say it again, in the States agents get a straight percentage of the players contract. Not when the player changes teams. So much influence to move from the agents to get these huge bonus’s.
The most important managers in world football?
Sir MG Football Manager 2012
Sir James FIFA 12
No one else compares to us.
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Balaji
Mureen is good and he has showed that over the past few years. The key to his success at the renties was due to the fact that he had the rebels on his side.
As for AST, or is it TNT, no wait AVB…. No sorry feelings from me personally… A 15m pay off for 8 months whilst millions are starving, he can go and fuck himself as far as I am concerned
http://www.coolsportz.de/
stream
Looks like Pogba is gone! Waiting for confirmation.
MG
Are you making reference to our very own Earl of Sandwich? Top notch he is
United Reserves v WBA:
WBA 1 – United nil (35min played) Defense went to sleep on a corner and got done like a kipper.
@Maresh, That Pogba story has been going around for some time. No one has confirmed it, but there are lots of rummors that have been shared on ROM over the last few days. Seems little doubt some contact has been made but if a contract has been signed there would be some issues to raise.
Pogba hasn’t touched a ball in competitive play since the story broke, so lots of speculation. He is out of todays reserves squad as well.
Willie
Off to Turin? Good luck to the lad… He will soon realise what a mistake he has done
Keane lets rip at Chelsea’s players lol. At least Sammy will agree with him there!
Cedars – Look like it mate. Nothing from United yet, though.
Pogba
Fuck off no sweat many greater have walked through the door lol
Ah yes Cedars – there is only one James!
Breaking News:
World Exclusive!
Smash it and Tuck it interview.
Smash it: I was close to ruin I had nothing to break anymore!
Tuck it: I was about to commit suicide because I didn’t know how to stick it in!
Smash it: Gary Neville is my heir apparent.
Tuck it: Gary Neville is my heir apparent too!
Smash it and Tuck it: Fucking Gary Neville is taking our money!!!
I’m hearing Pogb’a agent will get a hefty commission from the sale. No surprise there.
Willie
Not too fussed to be honest…. Read some decent reviews about the lad but at the end of the day if your heart is not with this club then bye bye…..
MG
He is also known as ‘The Noise” …… The wee man irritates the fuck out of away supporters during home games….. True and proper RED he is, frigging love him to bits
Cedars
Of course you are also known as The RVP Devil, love you to bits too Cedars!
Come on RVP do it for Cedars tonight – nothing short of 5 goals
Gooners have 1
But it’s not RVP
Come oN RVP
Ttyl Pogba you cunt, look forward to seeing you ruin your career. Yours sincerely Angry Man United fan
The game isn’t on yet but could be if RVP gets one in quickly
Mark my words Arsenal will go crazy tonight
RVP RVP RVP!!!
thedonmassawe says:
http://www.coolsportz.de/
stream
Nice stream thanks.
Cedars, Willie, my Grandfather on my Pops side was born in Torino. When I can travel again I will visit the twin cities of Turin and Torino Hug & kiss some cousins for the first time, eat some great food take in a match. Even If I can never fly again I will take a boat over the ocean and train all around Europe.
MG
Whilst of course I have an eye over my son, my main joy tonight will come from a Tigers home win
Also slightly off topic, does it make anyone else feel a little bit sick seeing Oxlade Chamberlain playing for Arsenal? the boy is going to be unbelievable. 18 years of age by God they have some talent on their hands.
Cedars
Forever the loyalist
My Dick
Some share that, I hope you get to make that trip one day and tell us all about it.
MG
What can I say, I am well focused too! ha ha Priorities all in check
It has been said before here, the Gunners run a proper club and not run by Billionaire cock measures. Or Spain itself. Proper rivals. This Ox looks good and we know so is Jack who has been hurt all year like our Tom C. If RVP stays they add some keep developing talent they will compete at the highest level again. If RVP leaves could be a free fall to compete for 4th place year in year out.
WTF stupid site keeps not allowing me to post the link…
www. firstrowsports .eu/watch/111701/1/watch-west-bromwich-albion-res-vs-manchester-united-res.html
If anyone needs the link, remove the 2 spaces around firstrowsports…
At 50 my dreams have been to see my grandparents birthplaces in Ireland and Italy, now a game at Old Traffod has been added.
ha ha Priorities all in check, as well. hahahahahaha
HAHA 2-0 Arse… can it be done?
New thread up on the want away kiddo…. zzzzzzz
Zibbie – I’d love to go to Italy? As Cedars says, hope you make that journey some day!
GGMU….
We did well and need to move on now…
Being back to the real squad should help us to continue from where we left off… 8-2 against arsenal… let the scoring continue boys… 10-0 against bilbao… those guys are fooling around and we need to teach them a big lesson – not to mess with Manchester United… The best club in the history of football…
GGMU…