1. Well that was just the kind of performance we needed following the devastating result in Basel this week. We passed the ball around well and at long last put away a good number of the chances we created. Only Swansea have a worse away record than Wolves though and after playing them, it is obvious why. They gave us lots of room on the ball and came at us, which meant we could attack them. Of course, it doesn’t matter how many attacks you have if you don’t score, as we found out on Wednesday, so I’m not trying to belittle the victory, but we shouldn’t get too carried away just yet.
2. Michael Carrick has been on the receiving end of a lot of stick over the past year or two. Some of it has been justified whilst some of the things said about him have been absolutely ridiculous. “If in doubt, blame Carrick” seems to be the motto of a few, so it is very pleasing to see the great form he has been in of late. Sir Alex Ferguson predicted this good form and Carrick has gladly obliged to prove him right. He’s playing with confidence, always looking to play the ball forwards again and putting in some great tackles. He was easily our Man of the Match today and looks good alongside Phil Jones.
3. For whatever reason, Jones believes his best position is in the centre of defence, but more and more he looks like a midfielder. His bounding runs forward would be wasted as a defender and his ability to win the ball means our defence has a wall in front to protect them. Most reds are salivating at the prospect of Jones and Tom Cleverley being our long term answer for the centre of the park. If he keeps on performing as he is, then he really is a viable solution to our midfield problem.
4. The wingers put in a good shift today, especially Nani, meaning Ashley Young’s cameo performance is something we may see more of in the future. The former Villa man has struggled to impress over the past few weeks, whilst Antonio Valencia’s form only keeps improving. Today was his best game in ages, with him fearlessly taking on players time and again and delivering dangerous balls in to the box. Nani has now scored or assisted 25% of our goals this season, which is an incredible feat. He’ll never be the most popular player at Old Trafford but he is very important to us now, which is why probably why he was given the last 15 minutes off today, to keep him safe from injury.
5. With injuries to Dimitar Berbatov, Javier Hernandez and Michael Owen, our options up front are fairly limited, although the Wayne Rooney partnership with Danny Welbeck would be my first choice now regardless. Welbeck had a frustrating afternoon, found to be offside far too often for my liking, but he contributes more to our attack than the loveable Chicharito. Only Robin van Persie has scored more goals in the league than Rooney now and we will have to hope that finding the net twice today will have helped settled his head. The finishes for both goals were top quality and great to see. But really, what I would give for him to get over his obsession with chipping the goalkeeper!
6. The defence was solid today, although it is annoying to see how easily Wolves scored early on in the second half. We didn’t make them work for that anywhere near as much as we should have. Regardless, Evra and Smalling generally fulfilled their defensive duties and supported the attack well. Rio Ferdinand controlled the defence and made some important clearances whilst Jonny Evans seemed to play with much more tempo. I’d like to think Eric Steele is talking to David de Gea about punching those crosses though. Catch!
7. I thought the most small time fans in the league were Stoke but Wolves really gave them a run for their money today. “6-1 to the champions!” they chanted. Really? “Who the fuck do you support?” responded the Stretford End. Other than the odd chant here or there about supporting their local team or telling us we’ll soon be City fans, they sat their silently. The chants of the game have to go to those mocking our Champions League exit, with the ground singing “Thursday nights, Channel 5″ after every goal scored. “It’s full of tits, fanny and United, oh Channel 5 is wonderful” also did the rounds. If you don’t laugh, you’d cry…
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well played reds
He is not immune. It is kind of refreshing when the best managers are under pressure and getting stick. It makes me feel a whole lot better. I would imagine when you walk into this place, or any of the top clubs, there is instant pressure. You have to live with it. He has done it better than any manager and will continue to work at it. He has had a tough time. It happens. It is cyclical. You can’t always be a success. You have to change things and constantly work at it. He has been better than anybody else at changing team after team after team and constantly being the top dog. But you still have to have some tough results from time to time.”—McCarthy on Sir Alex Ferguson
best Knockout aftermatch comment i’ve seen so far.
great game by Carrick….breaking up the opposition play and defensively excellent! Good to see the trio of nani, valencia and rooney have a great game, will need that confidence and hopefully we get back to scoring more than one per game:)
UNITED!!!!
aftermath i meant
valencia was solid, cant see young in the starting line up for a while.
I’d prefer Jones and Morrison midfield pairing. Let’s hope Ravel makes the expected development in the years to come.
Loving the Carrick-Jones combo in the middle of the park. With Jones in the midfield, we have got that engine to drive the game and the best thing is he is positionally aware too thereby reducing the chances of getting of guard. I hope SAF plays him more often in the MF. He just might start relishing it. Add Cleverly to this mix and boy have we got ourselves a midfield.
Good to see Valencia get a few assists. The lad is a traditional winger but he is good at what he does. He delivered some quality crosses. Welcome back Tony V.
All you cunts who said on Wednesday night that “we should just write off this season” should be fucking ashamed of yourselves, you’re a disgrace to the club in my opinion.
2 point of top spot with a decent chance we could be in 1st place by the end of next weeks game, this title is ours to fucking lose!!
All you cunts who said on Wednesday night that “we should just write off this season” should be ashamed of yourselves, you’re a disgrace to the club in my opinion.
2 point of top spot with a decent chance we could be in 1st place by the end of next weeks game, this title is ours to fucking lose!!
Utd4life @ 19:37: “Loving the Carrick-Jones combo in the middle of the park. With Jones in the midfield, we have got that engine to drive the game and the best thing is he is positionally aware too thereby reducing the chances of getting of guard. I hope SAF plays him more often in the MF.
You stole my thunder – that’s exactly what I think. They seem to bring out the best in each other, too. Sometimes, necessity is the mother-of-invention and it sure looks like the injuries to YoungTom and Anderson have created a necessity that has called forth an invented solution.
What’s especially exciting is that now – seemingly all-of-a-sudden – UTDs “crap midfield” has two alternatives: Carrick/Jones OR Cleverley/Anderson, which provide very different looks to supporting the attack even if the Carrick/Jones combination seems much better at protecting the defence.
This page wasn’t up a second ago? Fuck me that was quick! There I was thinking such efficiency was a thing of the past – I don’t even have time to read this detailed reaction right now! Keep it up Scott, used to be able to set your watch by the reactions on RoM.
Allow me to copy and paste my two pence worth from the other page, for what its worth…
Paul Parker says:
Still haven’t seen the game yet but those goals looked bloody quality – good to see Nani and Tony have a little cuddle after the third, still think they’re the best pair of wingers in Europe. Really glad to see Evans out there too, he’s got a bright future ahead of him and maybe this run of games was exactly what he needed.
Esp glad Rooney took a different approach to this game. KE was right about Waynes head being with the England camp when it should’ve been with us the other night. Oh well, we’ve all had a moan and our star Striker still has 2 thirds of the season left to remind us all why we fell in love in the first place. Come on Wazza don’t fuck about!
Smartalex – cheers for the insight into Dublin’s tact. Ex players know better than most how the ABUnati (Cyril Sneer Copyright) operates so they should guard their words carefully. I thought Ferguson’s final thoughts on the matter today were classy as fuck. I grew up with Keane, love the bloke, but the response from our manager has been bang on, as usual. United comes first.
Fred – top posts on the other thread – this shit is fucking ridiculous.
Right, enjoy your evening lads and ladettes, as Giles said this has been our best weekend for a bloody while now. Haven’t even seen the game yet and im stoked! Laters.
Atmosphere was great today, those new chants were hilarious, and I can’t believe how bad the Wolves fans were! I know United don’t have the most vocal fans, but our away support it much better than that.
disgusting language from united till i die and beating wolves does not cover the cracks
United till I die – Go on lad, you tell em! We’ll never die! 19
Just love everything about Phil Jones, he’d probably score two own goals in a final and i’d still cheer
united till I die 19:45. Agreed. and considering rival fans check out the comments, why give the fucks something to gloat over by posting such negative shite.
only thing i disagree with is #4 – Nani could easily become one of our favorites at OT as long as he keeps playing with his heart on his sleeve as he has lately, running down everything in sight and beating everyone right side or left. And as long as he keeps working on his slightly errant crossing and not firing long balls into row z, everything will continue to go through him.
Great win and from the broadcast that was easily the loudest most sustained chanting I’ve heard at OT in months.
Well done Reds, just the tonic needed to remind everyone there’s still plenty more in the tank in this squad. Carrick was easily MOTM, controlled the midfield superbly, could have scored too if he’d have got that header on target. The only thing for me was Rooney. Great to see him score again, but just confirms for me his head hasn’t been right because of the England red card/suspension. He needs to remember who pays his wages, top earner at Utd aswell.
carrick as a good squad player. i think he should be spared when dead wood is cut off…. evans, owen, fletcher, gibson….. i dont care what people say abt cleverley…that he is unproven, that this and that….all i know is that when that boy is playing, its as if a machine has been turned on. we attack ceaselessly……. the ball is played with a very high and accurate tempo…….. rooney and welbeck dont come often in mid to look for the ball. ….we can score anytym…… all players feel like playing like barcelona…..yes even evans. there is some special buzz that boy brings to other players and the team as a whole. he is v.direct and sharp in his passing and moving
Great reactions, Scott! Looks like ROM is truly back in business. Now, if we can just have the View from the Enemy back, my life will be fulfilled.
I agree in that Wolves were too open and gave Rooney too much space, but you know what, I couldn’t care less about any of those aspects. That is for laters when analysis is truly needed. At the most basic level as a fan, it was a fucking awesome to see us put a team to the sword. It was great to see us score more than one goal and look like more was always coming. It was great to see us use the width to bang those balls in for our strikers. It was great to see Nani actually doing it on the left both ways – crossing with his left foot and cutting in to score the goal. It was great to see Tony V take people on and put belting crosses. I am betting Chicharito just cannot wait to come back from injury. It was great to see Rooney play in the hold – too much space afforded – and score goals from open play. (Stop chipping Wayne, you are not King.) It was great to see a proper mid-field pairing who complement each other like all good pairing should. It was great to see Rio act like a leader of young defenders without Rio. But, most of all, it was fucking great to see Manchester United play like Manchester United.
@smartalex, Yeah, it is something that has been on my mind well before this game as well. There is an eerie coldness between them whenever I look at the pair. Yes, it may not be as acid as I feared in the last thread, but I don’t think anyone can deny that there is something there. I also agree that it is pointless to cold towards Nani now that his attitude is much better. I also liked your sly reference that Nani isn’t entirely unselfish. That is something we have to come to terms with unfortunately.
No idea what the reason for the coldness is though! Last year, it would be that Nani doesn’t pass. That excuse will not cut it anymore. The cheapest line of thought would be that maybe it is because Nani’s stock is on the rise as the ubiquitous talisman of Manchester United to replace Ronaldo’s loss and Rooney feels threatened. I know that sounds absurd and idiotic and I don’t agree with my own statement. I just made that to put it out there. Not because I think it is the right line of thinking or anything. Apart from that, I still feel that there is an uneasiness there that cannot be explained. It would be interesting to know about their relationship off the field to make sense of things.
@Sandeep, Agree regarding Rooney blasting Jones. Rooney blasted him in the heat of the moment. I blasted Rooney in the heat of the moment because I did not like somebody blasting my man like that when he had just busted 60-70 yards to make a cross.
However, as I said, at the most basic level, I don’t think I am reading too much into the Rooney/Nani situation. Maybe the amount of coldness is exaggerated on my part, but that it exists is there for everyone to see I feel.
Oh, and also, smarty, I would like to see you get involved in these kind of debates more often. I truly feel your extensive vocabulary and writing skills are wasted – not too dissimilar to my man Jonesy playing at centreback (
) – without you partaking in such back-and-forth exchanges. 
@Denton davey.. I was just elaborating the point that you had made on the previous thread. As much as Jones prefers playing in defence, I think the fans and SAF know that his position will ultimately be in the midfield. The lad’s natural instinct is to attack so why curb that by playing him in defence. Him and Carrick form a wall before the defence and it stops teams from cutting us open in the middle. Our midfield does look a lot more exciting with Jones in the midfield.
Its good to see people recognizing the importance of Carrick. The lad isn’t a thug like Mascherano, Lucas or DeJong. He’s way better than them. He reads the game well, makes important tackles, plays some lovely passes and protects the defence. He sits back which allows his partner to go forward and attack. His contribution to the team is invaluable.
And its high time that paddy evra gets some competition for his spot. Good to see Fryers get some game time. Just wish the twins weren’t made of glass.
I usually agree 99.9999% with you, but Smalling was torn apart today. I would play him almost every game, but today he was 4/10. I expect he’ll find his blood is curdled tonight.
great to win, though. Should have been another 8.
What time does El Classicoooooooooooooooooooooo kick off?
@Balaji
You’re such a flirt. Smarty?
Just a few more points.. Smalling isn’t a RB. He never will be in my opinion. The lad will get turned over too easily by good, decent wingers. His real position is CB, we all know that but until the twins recover from their injury we will have to see Smalling play there.
P.S.. Rooney, stop chipping the damn ball!! Why can’t he just smash the ball instead of trying to go for that ridiculous chip which 9/10 times will never come off.
@Willie.. I think in about half an hour.
Jones could do a job there for a while. But, I’d rather see Fletch and Tom return to partner Carrick and Jones to offer support at the back.
I have a feeling that today was the first of many headed we will concede in Vida’s absence…
Utd4life – Cheers!
Rooney blasts everyone, Nani needs it when he holds the ball to long. Rooney blasted CR7 for 4 years for greedy play. Nani on a day like today is awesome. At the start of the year Nani talked to much of wanting to be the best player in the world, sometime just be the best on the club. Nani and Rooney’s chemistry have never pooped for what ever reason. Nani for me has missed an average of 5 Rooeny runs a game. That would piss me off to. I just watched the game for a second time Rooney was awesome. Nani’s 1st goal was great as he makes his run Rooney see’s this stops his run makes one step back to slow the defender making some more space for Nani to score. Nani’s 2nd goal Rooney drifts to the back post taking a defender to make the space for that goal. Rooney made like 20 fucking awesome passes. The last 8 games plays with different strike partners, he played CMF for a few games had England on his mind and he gets hammered by his own? You see him run back on defense today? This is his team and for the next 7 years thank him for it. Even if you do not like him.
Zibbie – I like Rooney as a player and will always support him as long as he plays for us, but I won’t thank him for embarrassing our club and holding us to ransom.
@Willie, LOL! I didn’t realize how weird it sounded until you pointed it out.
Smartalex, My intentions were truly pure; plus I am a strict heterosexual. As usual, Willie is trying to goof things up by twisting others’ words. Only this time, his trusted partner in crime is nowhere to be found.
Jones and Carrick have a great understanding on the pitch. As Dentons says, we’ve two alternatives for the middle of the park now. As for Rio, I’d leave him out against QPR. Fulham will be the tougher test imo. Zamora and Dempsey are a handful at the best of times. With Vida missing, we’ll need Rio’s experience and height, for that one. Laters! 19
Willie they kick off at 3 CST, top of this hour.
Excellent article! Thanks Scott the Red!
So many positives today, just what we needed. I felt ‘professionalism’ was to the fore, as if we really have buckled down. Time will tell, but we are definitely my favorite to win the League.
Balaji, I agree that there is discord between the pair (Rooney and Nani), although I felt today that there may have been a watershed moment; ie Nani’s tears as Rooney was casting furtive glances at his disappointed team-mates may have highlighted to Wayne he has not been showing the same passion recently.
post scripting asides aside, I’m often working while on RoM, so entering tactical debates or discussions too deeply is so immersing that narcosis overcomes and time disappears. Thanks though!
Balaji – Ha ha. Only messing pal.
Later Willie.
Balaji,
I can understand your heat of the moment
@Zibbie, Hey, take a chill pill. Nobody is above criticism, even Rooney, you of all people should know that. This is Sir Alex’s team and Rooney is just one of the players. To me, Rooney will never “lead” a team like Keano or Robbo did. If he was as good as that, he would’ve gotten the Euro 2012 out of his mind and gotten his team through to the Champions League knockout phases.
This is not something that is coming out of the blue. For most of this season, I have been wondering whether Rooney is that kind of player. He is world-class for sure. He is arguably our best player. There is no questioning that. However, I wouldn’t go as far as to say this is his team. The performance in mid-week was just the last straw for me. I would still take Rooney over Ronaldo or Messi any day of the week. But where I once thought Rooney could lead the team and produce a Keano vs Juve type of performance if made captain, I just think he can produce amazing footballing performances. In terms of leading from the front, I don’t think he “has” it.
Plus, like I said, I think Rooney seems to be above criticism from both his team mates and the fans. Whenever Rooney goes on a long string of sub-par performances, very few fans even think about highlighting it. While his obvious mistakes are not blasted by his own team mates. If Nani had tried to chip the ball instead of finding an open man, say Rooney for instance, the latter would’ve blasted him with good reason. Rooney tries multiple chips in a game when there are better options. Yet, I see nobody asking him to tone it down. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me and I don’t think anybody will, but this is another thing that has been on my mind for the past few weeks. That is the kind of instance when I truly do miss Roy Keane and Gary Neville. They would’ve blasted any player left, right and centre for their mistakes. We are missing that type of born-and-bred United lad. Even if we get a leader from outside, he will be one of the many players, he won’t be one of ours. In each of our teams, we’ve always had that. One person who was above everyone else – Charlton, Robson, Cantona, Keane, Neville – who was the voice of the manager, who was the voice of authority. This team lacks that unfortunately and despite what people think, I don’t feel Rooney is that voice. Not even close.
Zibbie – Thanks pal. I’m really gone now!
Smartalex and Balaji I do see something there as well. What I have no fucking real clue.
Good result 30 + comments,bad result 5 or 600 hundred pretty well says it all about how many trolls and muppets wander onto ROM
Not much to say about the game Wolves were awful and the perfect tonic,big Valencia fan nice to see him coming back to form and Jones and Carrick do look good together,City lose on Monday 2pt gap.Pretty funny how the Doom merchants/trolls wanted to fire everyone and make major changes the other night,its really just fucking laughable.
I agree, I’m chilled just my point of view.
Balaji, I’m sweet!
@Willie, LOL! I knew mate. And by partner in crime, I obviously meant Cedars.
@smartalex, Yeah, I can see how entering into debates may make you lose track of time. It happens to me often. Only these past few months, I haven’t been too busy work-wise.
@sandeep, Yeah.
wayne!
What’s the status of our “Rooney to Euros if banned for 3 games” bet?
Null and void, or am i mistaken?
Plus, like I said, I think Rooney seems to be above criticism ???????????????? LOL He gets slamed by Press and fans, your right not his mates, because Wazza all about the wins and silverware, Balaji no mean spirt ment , he is the man on this team, with that said if Nani becomes a better player all good by Wazza he wins more.
i liked the way Rio ran towards the side line and keep posession of the ball aftre he had won the header within the box or edge of the box..
that sharpness is back and more hungrier..
smartalex yeah you got lucky
That is enough to put a smile on my face. Roney losing balls carelessly.
I thought everyone had a good game except Smalling & Young,when he came on. It is good for Smalling to have his baptism of fire in a game like this vs against Robben for example. I am more concerned about Young though.He has been lacking imagination since coming back from injury & his moves are quite predictable. Glad we have Tony V coming to form.
Championship side in sport have what is called a self policing locker room., in that Rooney is top Cop now.
Real scores!
@Zibbie, Press?? Yes, absolutely, because he plays for Manchester United and England. Fans??? Yes, England fans because he plays for Manchester United. By our own set of fans, he is rarely, if ever, criticized. If Berbatov had missed that chance in mid-week, it would’ve been lambs for slaughter. If Nani had tried multiple chips in the same game, he would’ve been criticized as selfish – with good reason as well. Rooney never seems to be criticized like that. I am not like that. For me, nobody – not even Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson though I don’t have the nerve to question him – is above question. And, yes, I was once the biggest proponent of Rooney taking over club captaincy, but I’ve come to the realization that he is too bipolar and temperamental to be made club captain. And that has nothing to do with Ambitiongate since I’ve all but forgiven him for that.
Balaji, it’s intelligent debates on tactics and other potentially mortifying subjects. General debating is cool, because you type whatever you think. Analysing play and players without being a twit requires focus and much trouble-shooting. Maybe not for many of the luminaries on RoM, but for this uneducated fool the basics are as important as the details.
1-0 to the virus. I actually hope they win today, sick to the back teeth of the Barca love in.
22 seconds it took for Madrid to score against Barca
We’ll just have to wait a year now to see if we can do it quicker.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Barca down 1-nil
Great perfomance today. Carik was immense as usual these days. What can anyone say abt jones. Nani is by far our best player.
Balaji he is not Berba, simple as. He is the man. In every locker room there is one or 2 leaders of leaders amd he is one.
And Zibbie, I know you and I are never going to see eye-to-eye on this. I just hope we can agree to disagree on this one.
I think as KE puts it Barca are feeling the effects of drug rehabilitation
wayne – I got lucky!
Money told in the end. Uefa’s arm was twisted by the threat of no Rooney. There’s not many players that hold that kind of sway.
Who heard Mike Phelan in the first half telling Valencia to “Take him on!”. Good to see him getting some confidence back, taking people on, and getting a couple of assists. Nani has also looked really good on the left wing recently, a couple weeks ago vs Benfica he was sensational and same again today.
I do agree that there seems to maybe be a Sheringham/Cole like relationship between him and Rooney though. I could be wrong, seeing as I was watching the match online (maybe any of the fans who were at the game could help me out)….but did Rooney even celebrate with Nani for the first goal??
Also think Welbeck showed what a difference he makes. He didn’t score, but his all round game is 10x superior to Chicharito (who I absolutely love). There’s no doubt this should be our first shoice strike pairing, we look much better in terms of our build up play.
Carrick has probably been our best player over the last few weeks, and I agree that him and Jones complement each other well. On Wednesday, Jones was charging forward and leaving that space in front of our back 4 unguarded. Today, with Carrick doing that, he was free to play a more box to box role. I’ve spoken about this quite a few times on ROM lately, I think it has the makings of a very interesting partnership. And for big games….I can easily see a midfield 3 of Jones-Carrick-Cleverley doing the business. The energy of the 2 youngsters, knowing that they have the insurance policy of an intelligent player like Carrick behind them, so they can support the lone striker (which is CRUCIAL when you’re playing 4-5-1).
On a related note though….does anybody know what’s up with Fletch? Didn’t make the bench today…he’s only started 1 of our last 6 games in the League or Champions League. A recurrence of the virus?
wayne -
How about a bet on how long Rooney lasts at the euros before being suspended again?
Balaji you know my feeling on that, that is your hang up not mine. Glazzers low ball one of the worlds best players and people cry boo whoo. It is over a year he delivered 19 and a CL final I hear not that logic. For I feel it is flawed. Your feelings as a human I respect, you as a person I like. That Berbagergataion of 100,493 post of the same thing makes me puke. I back Rooney and weekly post anti veiw and people can go ape shit?
smartalex yes mate because even with a 3 game ban Rooney would have gone.I was on a no lose bet.
@smartalex, Agreed! I usually post whatever is on my mind. I don’t think I can match my wits tactically against Giles Oakley, King Eric, StatesideAussie, Paul Parker, denton davey or other ROM luminaries (posted the first names that came to my mind). In terms of football tactics, I am, as you so rightly put it, an uneducated fool. However, I do try to learn from the best and that is the main reason why I cannot think of leaving this place as long as it is around. Reading posts from such distinguished football analysts as the aforementioned and expanding my knowledge of the game is one of my biggest passions in life.
With that, it is good night ROM!
Gora – Agree, Nani is the only player at Utd at the moment who gets me of my seat when he gets the ball. I expect something to happen. Rooney’s a great player, but he doesn’t have the pace to beat/go past players anymore.
the alexis sanchz cunt has learnt the trade of forcing the ref for cards just like his cuntalona players
DECEMBER 10, 2011 AT 21:05
Balaji Sivaraman says:
And Zibbie, I know you and I are never going to see eye-to-eye on this. I just hope we can agree to disagree on this one.
AGREED good man.
Next the weather is cold here.
haha cant help the off topic fellas, madrid one nil up in the first minute, hilarious valdez
On topic: Thumbs up STR a reactions to victory piece, nice
I’ve been thinking about something for a while
If the defensive injuries become unbearable that will be the only time that Jones will head back
I have a feeling that SAF is going to change our play with Jones in the midfield
Think about it he is a pulsating runner a brilliant tackler and someone that is prepared to shield the goalkeeper at any cost.
In defence thats an excellent attribute but if you can adapt that to midfield then United will never have to worry about the midfield again.
Robson Keane all wrapped into one.
Incredible is that boy.
@ Sparkz I believe Rooney celebrated with Nani with a hug & rub on the head but you could tell he wasn’t exactly in a celebratory mood as I don’t think he cracked a smile with both his goals….maybe he is still feeling the effects of our Wednesday debacle.
Time to smoke more green, go reds…….
MG, I agree so much. He is awesome.
We live and learn Balaji. Good night!
ps I was referring to me as an uneducated fool, but it likely applies to most of us.
Jones as a box to box, Roy keane style midfielder was fantasic. I 100% agree with you that hes wasted in defence, sure he enjoys midfield more – can express himself
Watching el-classico, ppl say the epl is fast but these guys dnt luk slow at all, godd wish we had someone like messi he just seems to glide past players. Carrick nd jones luked gr8 together didnt they? Complimented each other perfectly, @ balaji wat coldness??? Rooney lets rip at nyone who messes up
MG and Smalling as Rio’s long term replacement.
@Zibbie, Fair enough mate! Rooney is not Berba and I don’t think that is the case. As I posted, if anyone (I don’t think you were vocal about this, I am talking in general) is going to criticize Berbatov – and with good reason – for his miss in the F A Cup semi-final against City, they should be ready to do the same for Rooney after his ridiculous miss in the most important game of our season. Otherwise, that constitutes hypocrisy and I cannot swallow that.
Me, I don’t do it either way. I never criticized Rooney for that one miss, but rather for a completely staid performance which people excused as having his mind on the UEFA decision. I am sorry but I cannot quite see it like that. I was taught by Keano, the best, and I don’t think that Irishman would’ve forgiven Rooney his performance in mid-week. I don’t know, maybe I am just too old-fashioned in my morals having grown up watching Keane that I find it difficult to swallow.
Again, you are not going to hear me bring this up a year from now or keep going on about it like some people are doing with Ambitiongate. I am only bringing this up right now because it is still fresh in my mind. Once Rooney gets his touch back and starts earning his money, it would be all but forgotten. As for my actual post on Rooney being made club captain, I’ve already voiced my opinion regarding that, so no need to repeat it.
As I said, I know your opinion of Rooney and you know the kind of poster I am in general, so it is best if we agree to disagree. But, hey, at least we argued amicably which is not something you can say of ROM, right?
Good Night ROM!
anyone have a stream for barca vs real madrid??
Did you guys read Sir Alex’s statement about not bringing in anyone in January? Is this smoke & mirrors or do you feel we can depend on Evans & Rio partnership for the rest of the season? I know our injury situation will get better as the season progresses but I am not sure if the twins can be injury-free for too long….thoughts?
Balaji Sivaraman
I love you have a good sleep. And love your posts mate.
Balaji Sivaraman,
What a fan.
What a man.
What a RoMer.
One other point about Rio, who I thought was magnificent today. There’s certain players that nobody wants to criticise, and so someone else is scapegoated.
Prime example….the legend that is Giggsy. He seems to have some sort of immunity, despite the fact that whenever he starts games..he has a shocker (especially the last 3 vs Swansea, Newcastle and Basle). But he seems to get a free pass on here a lot of the time. In fact, even the straight talking Keano tried to claim that Giggsy was our best player on Wednesday! No chance!
Apply this to the defence. Rio seems to be an easy scapegoat on here and in the media, coz nobody wants wants to criticise the young players like Smalling and Jones, because they’re the future stars. Sorry, but I don’t buy that. Yes they’re young and developing and will make mistakes….but, they’re also playing for Manchester United. If they make a cock up, they should be called up for it.
Anybody with half a brain can see that Rio hasn’t put a foot wrong in the last 6 weeks. Fergie said that the Basle game was his best performance of the season, and I’d agree. Yet people were quick to lump him in with the other underperforming senior players like Rooney and Evra….that’s silly, coz those 2 have been in really poor form of late, Rio hasn’t, he’s been rock solid.
When he came back from his injury, yes he was a bit rusty. But to be quite frank….he wasn’t helped by the sheer positional naivety of his defensive colleagues. I’m talking about Jones and Evra in particular, constantly charging upfield without a second’s thought about protecting their own goal. (One thing I will give Rio stick for is he doesn’t seem to be as vocal…this time last year, he’d have been giving Jones etc an earful for being out of position, dunno what’s happened. Today he was talking a lot more again though)
There’s a reason why, when Vidic is injured, Fergie prefers to play Evans alongside Rio. Because say what you like about Jonny, he might be prone to the odd error….but at least he holds his friggin position! Some of our best defensive displays have been with Rio and Evans at the heart of our defence, coz neither of them tries to play like Roy Of The Rovers.
I know Rio doesn’t make himself likeable with his constant self promotion on Twitter…but judge the player and his performances, and you’ll see that he’s been one of our better performers and gets a lot of unwarranted stick lately.
@Walata – Thanks mate, I must’ve missed that on my stream.
I’m glad we didn’t sign Di Maria or Sanchez. Their constant moaning and whining is pathetic.
@ Sparkz…pls name any 38 yr old midfielder in any of the top leagues & compare his performance to Giggs…at his age he shouldnt be starting games but he is still our most creative midfielder….
Rooney should have won the game in mid-week as a great player, he fucked up and did not. Next he get’s a brace and are 2 points off the lead as we sit. Oh fuck yes Rooney can be critizied and he will never be that striker who beats people one on one with step overs and 17 great tricky moves. His genius lies in moving play, 1, 2 touch controlled Kayos. Seeing the floating triangles of advantage.Reacting fastest using his strength his spacial genius.
el classico my ass, bunch of diving cunts!
1 – 1 now with the diving sanchez scoring…..
Sanchez equalizes and I think the commentator just wanked off.
1:1 in spain, fuck!
Evening all
Fucking over the moon, Carrick was fucking brilliant today, what a player
Oh and fuck off you haters
I bet James had a blast today
Yeah I’m not criticising his abilites, and I do agree…he shouldn’t be starting matches. He’s one of the best impact subs in the League….comes on with half an hour to go, and picks holes in tiring defences with his magic. As a starter…he’s very poor.
I was just pointing out the fact that he seems to have immunity from criticism, by both the fans and the media.
Same old same old in the Clasico. It has descended into a battle to get each other’s players sent off. I’ve never seen such embarrassing shit.
Great finish by Sanchez considering he was weighed down heavily by being such a wanker.
La Liga is made for PUSSIES..
they cry like women for simplest of the tackles..
Even Sanchez is in on the Barca theatrics now!
Barcelona ready do make me sick with the constant moaning every time they are touched. Sanchez is the complete cunt never knee him to be such a diver in italy…
You beat a club in the bottom five of the league, at home. Well done Man U. FUCK THE DOUBTERS!
Great win! Long may it continue. Looking fwd to Chelsea v City – come on Chelsea do us a favour.
Everyone know Rooney loves chips. He’s from Croxeth and that’s par for the course for haute cuisine there and the boy cannot get enough chips, he just does not know when the chips are down.
Good evening CedarsDervil!
This game is a farce. Messi just been carded for backchat, great!
He’s been poor this season no doubt but so has more than half the team. I imagine a midfield partnership of clev & ando with Nani & young on the wings is what the gaffer had in mind as our preferred midfield at the beginning of the season….3 of those 4 have been injured at least once this season & 2 aren’t available yet…who would you pick for creativity from who’s left? Park,Fletch or Carrick are only options.
I’d rather watch porn instead of El Classico. Better acting, prettier pussies.
Zibbie
MG and Smalling for RIos replacement or are you just saying Smalling as Rios replacement?
@ LUFCWhite – are they at the bottom? you would know better than us that’s where you hang out, pond scum. And yeah, we love scoring against everybody – now go take a dive on your racist gnu.
@ Costas
Classic quote. I might have to borrow that sometime
Still stuck in the championship are we?
Fuck off
LUFCWhite
How were them sheep last night? Had a good shag I hope
@thedonmassawe
By all means.
Gotta give it to them the fuckers are putting up a heck of a show (the both of them)
@Walata – Yeah I know Fergie’s been forced to play him due to lack of options. But as I explained, I was just referring to how nobody seems willing to criticise him.
He played centre mid last season and was brilliant for the most part…so its not like its a brand new position for him. If he plays poorly, then I expect him to be as liable for stick as Fletcher, Carrick or Gibson are!
LUFCWhite,
yeah the same who beat liverpool by 0-1 at Shitfield..
and the same wolves against whom your scouse shit couldnt score a goal at wolves..
look at ur fucking joke club,
first win against wolves consistently, yeah the bottom 5 wolves, and then speak here u cunt..
by the way, when was the last ur fucking club scored 4 goals at home this season?
forget against the big clubs..
stick that 18 in your arse..
LUFCWhite – How did your shower of shite get on at the mighty Watford, where are they sitting in the championship, oh yeh that’s right 1-1 against 18th placed team. Isn’t there some farmyard frollics blog you could infiltrate.
Ronaldo is a bloody twat, never seen such an egotistical prick of a player before, good chance to get your side 2 up and he goes for the spectacular instead of finding a team mate, add to that being total gash throughout the game. messi should have been sent off, no doubt
@Costas
whats the matter?too boring for you? have fun with the porn. you could always watch stoke on sunday, bet that’ll be as exciting as porn as well
LUFC 3pts doesn’t matter who you beat games have to be won,yes you’re right FUCK THE DOUBTERS.Seen it all before mate,thats the problem with being the biggest club in the world get alot of phoney cunts jumping on board,something as a Leeds fan you’ll never have to worry about.
Yeah to be fair I understand the points you make regarding our fans laughing at you despite you being a better team than us. It’s a bit like how you lot laugh at City even though they’re a better team than yours.
And at least we’ve managed to beat Palace at home this season, can you say the same?
@Wayne LOL!!
Maa or is that baa?
@slim
Could be right. The Stoke team is full of dicks, even bigger than what you are going see in porn movies.
But honestly? I really don’t give one piece of monkey crap about El Classico. It’s not like I can take a look at potential opponents for United am I? Unless it’s a United game I don’t watch any other football matches anyway.
LUFCWhite,
heard of Sunderland? bottom 3rd, they drew at Anfield..
Heart of Bolton? they are the last in the table, even against them u couldnt score past 3 at home..
and u come here and preach us?
for the record, we have scored more against Bolton at the Reebok than you scored against them at Shitfield..
Get lost you cunt, clean up ur scouse land..
Sandeep1878 says:
La Liga is made for PUSSIES..
they cry like women for simplest of the tackles
Yup, thats right. While one of our boys cry when they don’t come up with the goods to get the Club they represent to the knockout round of the champions league. Real tough guys
@Sandeep1878 Are you thick or something?
“your scouse shit”
“stick that 18 in your arse”
There’s no word beginning with the letter ‘U’ in the name ‘Liverpool Football Club’. Clueless about even the most basic facts in football, typical Man U fan really.
LUFC cunt,
we have managed to win 19? can u say the same?
or can u say when was the last time u won the league?
“It’s full of tits, fanny and United”
Sounds pretty good to me… Just add a few car chases, explosions, kung fu and Angelina Jolie…
Rooney Berba comparisons are stupid. Rooney is in a different league. Every team would want him, he would be a first choice striker in every top team, he has been nominated for the Ballon and FIFA world player of the year several times, Berba never. Rooney adapts the way he plays, Berba plays the same game he played at Spurs with even less pace, zero improvement, zero desire to learn or adapt. No top team wants Berba. He is 4th / 5th choice striker at United. No opposition fears him. Opponents never mention him. SAF is the best manager. He knows that Berba is to good enough to start for United, he put him down as 4/5 striker which is what Berba is. The manager knows what he is doing and he has this totally right.
Rooney may get less criticism in some peoples view (though that’s bull cost Balaji and Costas always point out his faults amongst others), but unlike Berba he has consistently performed over every season he has been here. By consistent I don’t mean every game, all strikers forms dip (other than Ronaldo who is a machine) I mean over every season as a whole his contribution has been significant and often world class, when he is not scoring he is still assisting and building up play and defending, he can do the spectacular and the mundane, whereas Berba had one reasonably good season and two poor seasons where he was started loads. He has been crap this term.
Different leagues. Star starter and striker – vs bench if lucky.
Shrek -v- Mr Burns – who wins
Watching how little Ronnie works for his team makes me appreciate Nani that much more
Beating Palace is a big deal to Leeds supporters
Losing to them is not for us – or for that matter Basle – because we’ll still be doing what we do best come back from adversity
So have fun in the championship and stay there – you know your place – try to make the play offs though would be fun to see your nerves in a Wembley final.
19
@Sandeep1878 Last won it in 1992, but of course league titles are of such importance to you though, they’re probably the reason you started supporting Man U in the first place aren’t they?
baa
Slim,
my cooment was on Madrid and Barca, they act more stupid than school boys, rolling down the pitch clutching legs, ankle, balls or whatever comes in their hands..
shambolic..
@ LUFC cunt,
as i told,
at home, you havent even fucking gone past 3 goals against the club that is 20th on the table..
so get the fuck out of here and take care of scouse shit..
U shit lot couldnt even against Sunderland at Home..
fucking twat, you are not a typical fan, you are just like every other scum fan who has nothing but history to show off and come here crib abaout our club..
cheap cunts like you are a disgrace even to Loserfool..
Freaky Barca goal
Crikey!
@MG So there’s no shame in losing at home to a mid-table Championship side? Or is it just the typical Man U response whenever you lose in the FA/League Cup, “it’s only the cup, let’s just get on with the league”. Despite this I seem to remember your fans being quite jubilant about beating City in the 2010 Carling semis and then going on to win it.
LUFC didn’t Utd reserves knock Leeds out of the cup this year? and you’re trying to wind us up,fuck me mate what are you a reverse wind up merchant.we laugh at City because their fucking funny mate and last time i checked Utd are still Champions.
Maa!
by the way, apologies for the regulars here.
i read it as LFC rarher than LUFC..
oh look who we have here, some one cheaper than scouser..
what business do i have with a sheep? for they are the cunts of the highest order..
It’s ok
Jim’ll fix it
1-2 Barca
@Sandeep1878 How can I be a disgrace to Liverpool? I don’t even support them. How do you somehow manage to keep abbreviating Liverpool Football Club to LUFC? There’s no such thing as Liverpool United.
I’ll give you a clue as to what the LUFC in my name stands for – it’s the reason your shower were bereft of an FA Cup trophy in the 2009/10 season.
Never knew Leeds United were FA CUp winners 09/10
Must have missed that FM version
So I am a Rooney critic now?
Consistent or not, if someone isn’t doing the business, they have to be critisized for it. Rooney shouldn’t get carte blanche to miss glorious opportunities or to moan at his team mates more so than any other player. But compared to a lot of other posters in here, I’ve been fairly neutral towards him.
LUFC fans can’t even beat their own stick without instructions so what hope is there for their team, their fans don’t even read their own blogs – LUFC – losers useless f-in cunts
Carte Blanche
The last Bond novel
Rooney = Bond?
You’re a bit slow LUFCWhite, Sandeep has already worked you out.
Do you not have a meadow, or forum of your own?
Leeds fan cunt, still waiting for an update on that sheep date you had last night?
Baa
It’s ok
Leeds will never go back to the third tier of English football
Does your shepherd make you lie down in pastures green?
Restore you with his rod, so to speak.
1-3 for barcelona now…..
Ronaldo you dick! could have been 2-2, instead 1-3.
Ah well
Poor Madrid
The whites of Spain getting a hammering
Thats not the same as the Whites in England by the way
LUFC CUnt,
i mistook ur display name for LFC Cunt,
though not much difference between real cunt and mistaken cunt…
1-3 Barca
Ever had the wool pulled over your eyes by some horny shepherd on a windswept hill?
Was it real baaaaaaad for you?
i have to say thank you very much to Madrid and their ceo’s for stumping up the 80 million for the prima donna from Portugal. Thank you – i mean Muchas gracias
I know waht it is. LUFCWhite, must have heard Sir Alex talking about cows and fields last year and got the wrong end of the stick.
Leave the Shepherd of North Yorkshire alone
He’s on a suicidal mission by himself
Godspeed then
It’s a quarter to three, there’s no one in the place but ewe and me!
Back to the drawing board Maureen. At least we have beaten Barca this year, albeit in pre-season.
Agreed, Sparkz.
Agreed, Costas
slim
Only God knows if he’s coming back.
(joke)
All this talk of sheep is making me hungry….time to BBQ some lamb chops…..
Sheep cannot beat Wolves.
The Geordie who covers spanish games should be a commentor on darts or wrestling.Most annoying fucker ever.
Red Devils like white sheep
( specifically kebabs)
Who gives a flying fuck about Madrid or Barca? why all the interest for fucks sake
baa
Watch out for mad sheep disease there united.george.
Makes you think you’re living decades ago.
united.george
Good thing it did not make you horny! hahahaha
@wayne – is that ray hudson you are talking about? On goltv, yes he is annoying to listen to….
@ Cedars – what r u bleating about?
Also Fletcher cannot have the virus again as Barca just killed it.
Cedars
There is a fascination to see who can dive the best between Barca/RM
Little testy Cedars no more nurse visits
I can’t though for the life of me understand why Ronaldo freezes against Barca
Just don’t get it.
Mind Messi should have been set off though – there you go Refs favouring Barca players
Cue Mourinho shit storm and conspiracy theories
united.george yes mate the lad is just a little over the top,comparing football studs to machette’s
Who would have thought that crystal palace is beating real madrid 3-1! Unbelievable……..
united.george is a fellow son of the cedars which of course makes him special and unique…. We are a rare breed but when it comes to United we are fucking die hard baby
Cedars? Who the fuck is Cedars? hahaha
Carrick, I love you
NBI
Hahaha nice one pal
@MG
Even Ronaldo is taken aback by their diving, that’s why.
Now that the El Theatrico is all but over, we can concentrate on what really matters in life. JJ.
Cedars
Give us a wave Cedars give us a wave
I remember Casillas mouthing off that Real would have beaten United 3-1 if they made the final. Losing 3-1 at home with your only goal a Barca mistake. How does that feel you mouthy prick?! They mentioned his brother is a Barca fan too. Personally I like seeing Ronnie with jack shit with them. And I hate watching those diving pussies too- enjoyed watching them lose in DC this summer
MG – Diving contest of sorts then eh? hahaha
wayne – Always testy buddy and damn I do miss her! lol
Costas
HM?
Cedars
Apparently its an olympic sport is diving.
LUFCWhite was mollycoddled as a lad, similar to the apron strings effect.
LUFCMum: “Don’t run far dear, I’m knitting and I don’t want the wool stretched. When I’ve finished knitting your back into a jumper you can play for a bit.”
Man, the commentator on GolTV is absolutely terrible. Looks like he has a wank everytime Barca have the ball.
@MG
MF.
Speaking of movies, I’d recommend you watch Michael Douglas’ falling down (if you haven’t already). It’s a perfect illustration of what happens when someone gets exposed to too much stupidity in here.
Micheal Carrick was colossus today, he was like a Greek god on the pitch…. Controlled the tempo of the game and was always in the right place at the right time….
Fuck I love the fella
By the way and on behalf of proper RoM’ers as it were
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mikekelly…………. you fucking beauty, bet you’re too pissed to post
39 baby
Costas
I’ll tell you a story about Falling Down Costas – If I remember correctly it was a 93 release?
Anyway I was really ill – in a bad place – and I remember they were talking about Falling Down as a clear reflection of society and its ill and how its never going to change
I did watch it on the cinema and I’m glad I did – brilliant film
In 2011 that is more true that ever…
@Costas one of my favourite movies mate,many a time i’ve been on the brink.lol
Cedars
Are you saying Michael Carrick was like Costas?
Costas
Crikey, thats not a lot of football. ah well must be busy, you know watching …ahem consenting adults interacting.
Think l’l stop watching these classicos. So so predictable. Barça will dive, moan n win. Always!
La a a a a a a mbert! Leeds are looking for supporters, especially losers like you, all you need is a white t-shirt, it’s better than no friends.
And Barca have won the cup!
I hate Barca!
Happy birthday Mikekelly12! Give it horns!
Why the fuck is a Leeds fan on here. Fuck off you cunt.
Have Palmer and Armstrong taken their tongues out of Barca and Messi arses yet? Sickening commentary. “It takes a brave man to send off Messi“. Why? He aint some fucking god. They try to discredit Ronnie at every turn. Mind you he did miss a sitter or two. Didn’t take their chances. Barca did. I fucking loathe them. Five hundred Barca fans there. Pathetic. What a fucking flat track bully that fat nonce cunt Benzema is. Against half decent sides he is gash. What a shit league. World beaters against Getafe and shite. Shown up tonight. What a toerag Sanchez is. Or rather “alexis“ as the commentators kept saying. What’s with that pretentious bullshit? Really did think Francos mob would win. They look fucked at the end. Should have taken their chances.
Cedars really needs to get the nurse back,having way to many man crushes.Comparing Carrick to a Greek God.lol
MikeKelly11
You should comment more. Look how well MikeKelly12 is doing, and he got here after you.
MG – He can only wish to be like Costas!
We love you Mike we do, we love you Mike we do oooh Mikekelly we love you
Where on earth is James?
first half of weekend football done, 2nd half on sunday and extra time on Monday. Yummy, thank fuck the footies back, shudder just thinking about those dreary internationals
Carrick is the Greek God of accurate passing.
@MG
Yeah, I believe it was released around that time. That’s what draws me to that fim to this day. How it never seems to be out of date. Even in regards to fast food chains and how disappointing their actual burgers really are.
@wayne
Heh, same here pal. Everytime I have a sitty day I wonder how close I am to losing the plot, lol.
@ Costas – in your next long letter to our medical team you have to note that if we learnt to dive like barca and virus we would never get injuries…I am sure barca virus training sessions are like those circus acts where little dogs jump over each other and play dead…
smartalex
Genius of the highest order you are
wayne – Just pissed my self pal! thanks hahahaha
The Greeks do not need a God for accurate passing, they need a God to help them save the Euro.
@sandeep mate that’s a leeds cunt, not a scouser, dint you hear Cedars trying out the sheep’s mating calls?
watching “el classico” just reminds me how lucky I am to be a Manchester United fan….
diving theatrics, pathetic fouls, little pretend fights, hair gel and selfishness…..that pretty much sums up the “top 2 teams in spain”….give me a fucking break!
@cedars – give us a wave! I was watching but could not see the banner today.
Ha! A tweet from Tunni:
You would never ever catch me playing in spain. Such a pathetic game. Cringe worth stuff how the react and roll about from tackle. #cheats
That’s why he’s King Eric’s boy.
@slim
Lol, well I try to keep my life a bit more meaningful than that. I used to watch a lot of football, but I think that over time I became a UNited fan more than a football fan. And when that happens, even games like the Classico or a Ch.League final (without United) can’t keep me interested.
united.george
I know for sure it was there, bloody cameras kept avoiding it!
tom c – well spotted pal
Only to a couple of listeners, CedarsDevil. Cheers for that!
Costas
Or breakfast when you need it but can’t have it lol
Cedars
Hear here!
Happy Birthday to MK12 – can’t wait for the future where I’ll be moving his house and he’ll be taking me to a game
@NBI
I’ll definitely recommend they start giving our lads whatever vitamins the Barcelona players are taking in order to play 60-07 games per season and never get injured. Must be something legal…
Tunni
Must be following KE somewhere
Tunni
Got KE dialogue too!
Tunni
Future CL winner for Manchester United
That’s the spirit son
@MG
That’s what shocked me too. So much of KE in the boy. I wonder if there’s some sort of relation.
75,627 Old Trafford attendance today, biggest crowd of the season, United in decline? Lol!!
Just watched MOTD that Jones is AMAZING, Shearer was drooling all over his performance. The analysis he did of him after the game just showed why Fergies been picking him in midfield, he’s a beast! No wonder Fergies not bending over backwards to tie Pogba down to a new contract!
Costas
I’m not saying anything I’ll let the King have the final word
smartalex
Always a pleasure pal……… And of course fuck the moaners!
Fuck ‘em!
Well that was more like it, Carrick easily MOM and could be our most important player in covering the back four.
Hi Smartalex, how you keeping
K stand Barmy Army
You did us proud today fellas
Sparkz @ 21:07: “And for big games….I can easily see a midfield 3 of Jones-Carrick-Cleverley doing the business. The energy of the 2 youngsters, knowing that they have the insurance policy of an intelligent player like Carrick behind them, so they can support the lone striker”
Quite possibly – but I’m still somewhat wary of putting-too-many-eggs-in-Cleverley’s basket. He was wonderful operating in tandem with Anderson, let’s just wait and see how he comes back from the two injuries.
Robert Plant: ”When Wolverhampton Wanderers won the Football League Cup in 1974, it took me three days to get home from Wembley to Worcestershire.”
Balaji @ 21:18: “As I posted, if anyone (I don’t think you were vocal about this, I am talking in general) is going to criticize Berbatov – and with good reason – for his miss in the F A Cup semi-final against City, they should be ready to do the same for Rooney after his ridiculous miss in the most important game of our season. Otherwise, that constitutes hypocrisy and I cannot swallow that.”
OK, I hear you. Let’s also mention that TheWayneBoy missed three excellent chances in that match against Basel whereas Dimmy “only” missed two !
So, why does SAF persist with Rooney and send Berbatov “to Coventry” ?
Hello mattbw7! Welcome back mate! Were you at the game today? It must have been great!
Sparkz @ 21:23: “There’s a reason why, when Vidic is injured, Fergie prefers to play Evans alongside Rio. Because say what you like about Jonny, he might be prone to the odd error….but at least he holds his friggin position! Some of our best defensive displays have been with Rio and Evans at the heart of our defence, coz neither of them tries to play like Roy Of The Rovers.”
True that.
Because Coventry University has many years of experience welcoming European students and they have 30 Bulgarian students currently studying at the University.
… I’m fine, thanks! I forgot about that part.
How’ve you been? I hope your presence here will become regular again.
With Dimitar Berbatov turning excuses into something of an art form, Balkan folk sessions at Old Trafford may now become a thing of the past.
Did you hear Hanson having a whinge cos liverpool were on last. Cos they’re shit Mr Hanson and no-one gives a f**k!
shebangsthedrum @ 22:24: “Ronaldo you dick! could have been 2-2, instead 1-3.”
Yep, BUT SirAlex would take him back in a heart-beat – but only if he would agree to halve his wages.
‘Man Utd manager Sir Alex Ferguson on his side’s victory over Wolves.’ 2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT5cYsGQbj0
denton davey – I’d have him back aswell, I was just disappointed because I’d have preferred the virus to win tonight, and it was a bad miss by him.
Watching highlights of the match, this kid Jones keeps screaming for the ball! Fucking love his energy and drive…..
maa or is it baa?
mufcmyreligion @23:18: “The analysis he did of him [Phil Lones] after the game just showed why Fergies been picking him in midfield, he’s a beast! No wonder Fergies not bending over backwards to tie Pogba down to a new contract!”
Interesting. But, really, who knows what’s going on with Pogba’s contract status ?
For what it’s worth….I think Rooney really earnt his money second half of last season. Came up trumps with a huge amount of match winning performances, goals, and assists, at the most crucial points of the season….squeaky bum time as Fergie calls it. That’s when you want your big players to come to the fore, and he did.
This season, up until the City game he was on fire (he missed a good few matches before that through injury, but in the games he played he did well). After that, he really went off the boil for a bit. His best performances were when he was in midfield, but up front he was not doing it. Especially the last few weeks, in the games against Swansea, Newcastle and Basle.
What concerned me most was his attitude. He was great at the start of the season when we were playing well….but when our form dipped over the last 6 weeks, his attitude has been rank. Dare I say it….reminiscent of Ronaldo in his last season??….
Today it was a bit better, but I can’t help think that his attitude lately seems to be linked with how well the team is performing. When we’re not playing well and need someone to roll their sleeves up and lead, he gets too easily frustrated with what’s happening, rather than cajoling his team mates.
For that reason, I’m with Balaji, in that I don’t see him as future captain material (which a couple of years ago, I did)
20 minute highlights. Watch it or at least start buffering, because they don’t stay up.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmwcdm_manchester-united-v-wolverhampton-wanderers_sport
You’ve turned into a rent – a – quote Denton. Did someone mention sheep? Aye got my KY jelly, just in case?
Ronnie has a total mental block against Barce(diving)lona.
shebangsthedrum @ 23:49: ” I’d have preferred the virus to win tonight, and it was a bad miss by him.”
Actually he missed a header and a shot.
I also wanted TheVirus to win – but only to stop the endless BarcaLoveFest. On the other hand, there was no downside to seeing TheVirus lose since it meant that TheVirus lost !
About CR7 – as good as he was – and is – he’s gone. The team evolves and I have big hopes invested in Ravel Morrison who has really impressed me in the brief glimpses I have seen of him – I’ve written before that he reminds of the YoungRickyKaka who burst on the scene in Meeelan about seven years ago: fast, slippery, two=footed and seemingly plays better against better opposition.
Kaka had an interruption in his career because he broke his back, right now SAF is breaking Ravel’s balls ! I’m hoping that when he comes out of SAF’s closet that he will have the same kind of impact as Ricky had as a 21 year-old.
Somehow, my hatred for barca just keeps increasing. Diving and trying to shit-talk the ref into getting other players sent off. Somehow, it does seem to work for them as they currently stand as champions of europe. (Not in my mind though. They always seem to make United play silly in the finals). Maybe we should learn a thing or two from them about theatrics pending when we meet them. A taste of their own medicine for them. Gutted to see Ronnie fluff those chances today. My mind is on all the el classicos they’ve won and the 2 times they’ve beaten us at the finals. Damn, I hate barca!
I love it when Man U fans give it the “sheep shaggers” jibes. Do you not realise that Leeds is the 3rd biggest city in England, bigger than Manchester in fact?
I don’t know which Leeds you lot have been to that makes you think it’s full of farms, but it’s certainly not the one where I and my football team are from.
Manchester > Sheep Shaggers
denton davey – I’m with you, I’d have Ronnie back, but ideally if he was back to his pre-virus Ronnie. Also with you on the Barca/virus thing. I wouldn’t ordinarily want a Madrid win but I too am bored of the Barca love in.
I remember Kaka scoring 2 at OT a good few years back, he ripped us apart that day, if Ravel can get anywhere near that we’ll have a player on our hands.
The only good things about Manchester is that the city centre is good, the airport is useful and it’s produced some cracking bands over the years.
Other than that it’s a cesspit. Everywhere you go outside of town you end up in the ghetto and it’s full of scruffy looking types full of self importance just because they’re from “Manchestoh”, and more than likely support one of the two football teams which adds further to their detriment. You’d think Shameless wasn’t a Comedy Drama but in fact a Reality series…
I can honestly say I’ve found Liverpool to be a much nicer city.
Just read this and had to share it with the ROMers. Typical fukin media suggesting Fergie is past it again and what not. Same old shit, i love it when we prove them wrong. Anyway, here is the link…
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/dec/10/manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson?cat=football&type=article
@sparks 21.07
You were right in your comment about Rooney’s celebration of the first goal it was non existent. Every other outfield player went over to Nani. Wayne just sulked his way back to the half way line.
@sparks 21.07
You were right in your comment about Rooney’s celebration of the first goal it was non existent. Every other outfield player went over to Nani. Rooney just quietly made his way back to the half way line.
Manchester > leeds > bucket of shite
Some say that Leeds are the Baa-celona of the Yorkshire Shepherds Guild.
Tramps vest > leeds
Peter Schmeichel and Paul Scholes scored our goals in our last match in UEFACup Competition. 1995-6 season v Rotor Volgograd. I wonder who will score the next? Hoping its Pogba or Morrison.
Fergie says he wants to win it. No disrespect to the competion. We should do !
Of course you don’t like Manchester, you leave there tarred and feathered every time, with your dignity in your cap.
Even Santa wears a Red shirt!
And Rudolph has a Red nose!
Manchester >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sheep shagging spases
Zeke Fryers is the first United player to feature in an EPL match who was born after the EPL started in 1992. Did a fair job as well!
Get in Zeke!
Zeke > dirty leeds
FletchTHEMAN – That makes me feel old.
LUFCWhite – You still here, clearly more interested in Utd than your own team then.
Phil Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whole of leeds squad
Phil Jones>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whole of leeds!
harry redknapp is the biggest gobshite!!! on and on and on… always got an opinion, always talking bollocks, why doesn’t he just shut the fuck up. do you think he ever looks in the mirror and thinks ‘you are such a boring twat’?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/224888
That’s my boy Tunni. Seriously those that aint seen him will soon see why I rave about him. Similar to Jonesy. A fucking hard case that will drive us on and pops up with goals. I raved on here for two year about Tom C. I am a footballing scout. Only messing.
Balaji. No mate. Don’t credit me with knowledge of tactics please. I really don’t get bogged down in that shit. Just get on the fucking park and play! I leave tactics etc to sparkz, denton, stateside etc.
Mattbw. Hey up pal. Good to see you on here.
Imagine life won’t be quite the bed of roses it is now when we get Harry 24-7 as Hingerlund manager. Someone do us a favor, all I have to say!
kev e – he is a gobshite, but I agree with him on this. Once your knocked out of a competition, that should be the end of it. I’m sure he’s quite glad that the Manchester clubs are still involved in European competition.
David McDonnell is reporting that Rooney is on 160 United goals. On behind Giggs!
Impressive that.
All time United goals (all competitions)
249 Bobby Charlton
237 Denis Law
211 Jack Rowley
179 George Best
179 Dennis Viollet
168 Joe Spence
163 Mark Hughes
161 Ryan Giggs
160 Wayne Rooney
150 Paul Scholes
150 Ruud van Nistelrooy
Get in Wayne Rooney!
LUFC. Early hours of morning and you are STILL on a United blog. Most peculiar behaviour. I have NEVER visited a Leeds site. Ever. Just shows how big and important United are to every cunt. Fuck off to watccoe site or whatever shite blog it is. We are the champions champions of europe. Yeah course you are. I live near Leeds. Originally from Wetherby, well Boston. Now live in Ulleskelf. What part of town you from? And before you start I have supported United for over 30 years and am a season ticket holder and get to the odd aways.
And the most important thing, the confidence are back on a high!!!
I thought Chris Smalling looked pretty terrible today. Matt Jarvis seemed to have his number all night long. I was watching it on an Irish feed with absolutely shocking commentary and pundits, but one thing they did draw my attention to was Smalling’s total inability to keep Jarvis quiet. everything Wolves did came through him and it made me wonder how big Chris would hold out against a Gotze, Messi or di Maria.
Its saturday night & we have Leeds fan trolling on here. Why oh Why? Bet his life is suck, have no girl to get bang, have no friends to go hang out & most of all his beloved team sucks too! Thats really kind of situation that we all fear most…
I want to see some carrick stats. When carrick plays I believe we’ve only let in like 3 goals or something like that. carrick played very very well today. was integral in 2 of the goals I think. and broke up play very well.
Awesome Phil Schweinsteiger is awesome
Jones-Carrick combo is working for us. Let us stick with this combo for next some games atleast. They compliment each other very much and gives the side more stability. But Cleverley- Anderson should be given another chance when they are fit. They were about to reach great heights before that cunt davies spoiled our plans.
I hope we have almost a full strength squad in feb apart from vidic.Jones is much suited as a defensive midfielder. He is the answer to Hargo . He shouldn’t be solely used as a defender that would be waste of his talent.
With Clev injured I seriously hope Jones-Carrick combo continues.
smartalex – Reply regarding arsenal in the liveblog thread. I am not in cloud mate. Honestly if United doesnt win the league I would want arsenal to win as I don’t hate them but they are overrated this season.
If they remain in top 4 come Feb then I can say they have done well but now for me they are still the team that we thrashed and the team that lost to blackburn. They are overrated very much. Hell a i saw a person say they are the only club that can beat Barca . WHAT THE FUCK.
They are living on the genius of Vanpersie. Lets see for how many days that continues.
Ash
The way i see it, CM has to have Carrick in it, if SAF os happy with the current defensive set up, clevs and jones will have to battle it out. Jones’s got a huge head start. imo, Ando’s head is not in the game, early season form or injuries aside, the boy is pissing about and there’s no time for that. Not writing him off but we need to get our asses in gear
Carrick was fantastic, so was Jones. And yes, i disagree with the Nani never being the most popular player. There doesn’t seem to be that many Nani haters compared to Carrick/Berba/Evans. We get frustrated with Nani, but i don’t think we can doubt that he can be world class, great enough to win the Ballon D’Or imo. But he’s still got a bit more of a distance to clock up to get there.
Feels good to enjoy the simple things in life. A nice home victory filled with goals.
@Heathez
Paul Wilson is grade A twat. Way beyond Ollie Holt & Patrick Barclay. Just checked his last articles about United made boiled my blood.
But just ignore him, he’s just another typical jurnos these days.
And glad to see the shades of the old Valencia.
slim
Absolutely agree with you that Carrick should be there. He is like Rio or Vidic . What they are to defence Carrick is to our midfield. But My point is Jones should be a defensive modfielder and not a pure Centre back. The boy has talent so why not use it,. Clev-carrick combo would also be exciting but that would limit carrick to go forward.
Only time will tell which combo is best
also looking for Evans stats; coz its been said here before that when he plays we are guaranteed to ship in a goal. how many clean sheets has he managed of all games started?
Twas a nice performance from the lads and am esp pleased by the re-emergenice of Anthony V, was expecting to see lindegard in goal though after de gea’s mess in Basle, i think fergie should not treat him any special than other players, u fuck up, u pay the price!
Wonderful performance!!!
I just hope jones suggesting united “repaid fans” by beating wolves dusn mean they’re flinc back to their gutless performaces.
For Xmas I would like 18points from our nxt 6epl fixtures pls! That wud be ample payment for a cl exit! Hardest game in our nxt 6looks to be newcastle away though of injuries n current form persist even thag could be a walkover *fist pump*
United!
i believe we’ll soon see a midfield of jones carrick and clev… for big games with rooney up top and clev linking midfield to attack with his outstanding vision and clever play..
carrick is absolutely irreplacable..
@ash : agree with your post about arsenal mate
Good Morning ROM!
@King Eric, Maybe not in terms of tactics, but your assessment of our players is rarely, if ever, wrong. And I’m not only talking about our youth setup, but in general.
@Ash, I don’t think Jones should quite be a DM. He is the perfect box-to-box mid-fielder we’ve all been craving. I know King Eric keeps raving about Tunnicliffe and I really want to see him in a United shirt, but with what we have right now, Jones has the potential to be as good a box-to-box mid-fielder as any we’ve ever seen. As I’ve said a countless times, he is the heir to Roy Keane and Bryan Robson’s throne. I don’t want to put too much weight on his shoulders by directly comparing him to such stalwarts but he is going to be one of the greats. I also see him as future captain material
This line from Scott’s impressions jumped out at me: “then he really is a viable solution to our midfield problem”
The reason is because this is exactly what I highlighted when we didn’t sign any mid-fielder in the summer. I remember thinking out loud that maybe the plan was to eventually convert Jones to a proper central mid-fielder and that is exactly what Sir Alex is also doing at the moment. I think Jones himself is wrong in his assessment of what his best position is. We’ve got the best in the business working on telling him that he is better as a mid-fielder and I know that is where he will eventually end up. Not that I’m saying we don’t need another body in mid-field but if Jones works out as well as we expect him to, then things will be much, much better in the middle of the park.
@slim, I agree with your assessment of Anderson. His attitude is a big problem, even worse than Nani’s a couple of years ago. He is petulant in the worst possible way and I have difficulty swallowing some of his antics when everyone of us expected this to be his breakthrough season. Unfortunately, this latest injury setback isn’t doing him any favors as well. I am afraid that, by the time, he returns he is going to have a tough time breaking through with Carrick, Jones, Cleverley all ahead of him in the pecking order; not to mention that maybe Tunnicliffe, Pogba, and Morrison will be getting games as well. He should really get his head back in the game if he wants to have at future at this club.
rohan19
No offence to arsenal team. i am not underestimating them but what irritates me is They had the worst start. Suddenly in last month pundits and some people say they have become worldbeaters.
When we lost 6-1 media, Opposing fans and even some of our plastic fans said our season is over , We as a club are in decline. Ohh FUCK OFF. Like someone pointed We had the highest attendance yesterday of this season. Now what does this shows. We unlike other clubs are special. We fight.
Our Sir ALEX is A fighter, Our team is a fighter and yet the media say wolves were weak we are in decline.
Now I don’t give a damn about people who say bad things about us but Its Not correct.
Arsenal trophyless for 7 years yet media say they are great. I remember Man united didn’t win a trophy in 2004-2005 season if i am not wrong and whole media said United are finished. They will go down like liverpool. AGAIN i say FUCK OFF to them.
I have a greta feeling MASTER SIR ALEX will win championsleague 6 times for united and then retire. He knows WE CAN.
BELIEVE
Jones cannot stop amazing me.
Every game he does something that is just jaw-dropping. The boy is a defensive midfielder….fuck playing him as a fullback or centerback. Too much talent, vision, speed and hunger to be wasted at the back. Let him sit there when his 30…not now.
Jones is also allowing Carrick more freedom and time on the ball. Michael can focus more on attack now and not just worry about his defensive responsibilities. It would be nice to see him score or at least having a crack at goal from time to time…he did surprise me with that aggressive diving header…For a second I thought it was Jones. But that’s the new Carrick for you. There’s a drive about him lately that I have not seen in him EVER.
Smalling is not a RB, and I totally disagree with StR on this one. Jarvis put cross after cross and had him on his back pocket all second half. Luckily, Rio was a beast. He owned the defense and was a monster. Really hoping he stays feet.
Evans was solid. Play Valencia everytime there’s a slow LB and he’ll deliver. However, i still feel he is too predictable. Young needs to wake the fuck up. Kiko isn’t going to get many more chances to shine like he missed yesterday. Wellbeck showed a bit of inexperience today. He also needs to work on his movement inside the box, but he’ll improve.
Also, the attitude in general of players, not only ours, these days is sickening to be honest. I cannot stand to watch someone go down at the slightest hint of touch looking like they’ve been shot right through the heart. The general quality of sportsmanship in football has been on a downhill slide for the past few years and that is frightening.
Regarding our own attitude, it says a lot about the lack of leadership in the current team when the player who has been playing with the most fire in his belly for the past few weeks is a 19-year old ex-Blackburn Rovers player in his debut season at Old Trafford. That is something we’ve lost with the retirement of Scholes, VDS, and Neville. And that is a sad state of affairs really. Where we once prided that quality when differentiating ourselves with Arsenal, we cannot do that anymore.
At least, not until Jones is a couple of seasons old and becomes the youngest club captain in Manchester United history.
Also agree with those saying Smalling is not the best at right back. While his defending is in general OK – except yesterday that is – he contributes next to nothing from an attacking point of view. And that combination means that he is largely ineffective at right back compared to our other options. Unfortunately all our other options are on the treatment table, so he is being pushed out wide. Once we get a few of them back, Smalling should be right at home in the middle of the park.
Also, the twins are really getting on my nerves for some reason. How do you expect me to take them seriously when they spend more time on the treatment table than off it? One of the main reasons we’re having to move things around a lot in defense – apart from Sir Alex’s decision to sell Brown and O’Shea – is that they’re made of fucking glass. I’ll maybe give them a season or two more but if they continue in the same vein, it is hard to see them having a future at OT despite them being two of the brightest young prospects we have. The annoying thing is that it is mostly their over-exuberance that gets them in trouble. Somebody should really ask them to tone it down next time if they don’t want to end up with more injuries.
Balaji- I agree with you on twins. Their injuries are quite frustrating but they are very talented. Remember Rafael was having a great time at rb before he got injured against blackpool. After that he has hardly played any game. Again he was unlucky as he got injured against palace.
I feel they need to play more when fit. Rafael should be our first choice RB and not Smalling or jones.
As much as they play they will become stronger. I will be very disappointed if they don’t become regular starters for us. We need to be patient. I heard both will return in january so hope 2012 brings a new start to their career.
It’s beautiful to watch people utterly creaming themselves over a performance not that far removed from the one against Basle – the only real difference being the quality of the opposition in key areas and therefore the scoreline.
We opened up Wolves time and time again because they were so poor, not because we were so great. The only exception to that is Antonio Valencia, who only grew in confidence as the game went on, and Carrick – magnificent again.
It’s also nice to hear so many of those who have persistantly doubting our midfield, SAF, our transfer policy, Michael Carrick etc etc, have shut their faces again for now – faces grown fat on our golden generation and unrivalled success. If the last 25 years have taught us anything at all, it’s that Sir Alex understands more about our players than all of us fans put together. If you can’t put your unconditional trust in him to crystalise his dynasty ready for his successor – whoever that may be – then you might as well join the poznan-dancing classless cunts down the road with their dirty chequebooks and revolving doors. So you want the club to unleash £100m in the January transfer window? Well, Welcome To Manchester, you glory seeking cunt. Lucky for you, Francis Lee, inbetween his playing career and chairmanship, made his fortune from bog roll. Don’t forget to wash your hands.
The frequent success we have enjoyed under SAF is unprecedented in any era of football, None of us, regardless of our background, the number of games we go to, the country we live in, have a right to take our success for granted.
@Balaji – not sure how you can have a go at Anderson, his combination with Clevers earlier this season was incredible. Then Clevers is injured, Anderson not long after – I just wonder what might have been. To say his head isn’t in the game at the moment is a little unfair when he is out injured.
Midfield partnerships are funny things, and Clevers/Anderson looks like being the attacking alternative to Jones/Carrick. I’d be interested to see if we get the opportunity to rotate those two combinations.
Hello, RoMers. Cedars, costas, Smartalex, Balaji, MG etc. . . . Just want to add a few points, i think Rooney is overrated and not in the class of Messi and Ronaldo and wont ever be.
Also he is certainly not our most talented player, not while Nani, Jones, Clev and when he is mood Berba are in the team, he might be the focal player but certainly not the most talented.
I agree with Balaji that Rooney seem to have an issue with Nani just like he had with Ronaldo prior to 06/07 and i think it stems out of jealousy and nothing more than that. . . . .
Have a nice day REDS
What’s the best thing to come out of Leeds…..
apart from Cantona…….
and some dirty old tart I did up the arse in Majorca one year…….probably LUFCWhite’s mum…
gotta be the M62 to Manchester
Ash, nearly every comment on RoM earlier in the season was that Arsenal are a mid-table team at best. If they are over-rated as you suggest then they should be near or in the relegation zone after 15 games played. Actually, they are in the top 4. Therefore, by definition they are UNDER-rated.
Anyway, I accept that you consider them over-reliant on RVP, as I’m sure most top teams might be had they a 30/40 goal a year man on their books. We sort-of have one, but our Wayne is less consistent, and still many people feel we over-rely on him.
Time will tell, it’s all irrelevant although fun conjecture.
Always a daily reader of this blog but not a big poster, have been reading a few posts over the last few days & obviously a few negative posts after the last weeks episodes, some justified, some fukin well out of order, I’ve supported utd since before I was born,
fuck me my dad went to the Utd vBenfica final a couple of days before u was born, been goin to the match since 74-75 my first game was utd v Oxford in the 2nd div think it was 4-0 for us, last game of season we beat blackpoll 4-0 at home as a kid it was fukin unbelievable, so there’s been many ups& downs since, seein us lose to southampton but a year later seein us do the scousers, being behind the goals for whitesides curler after going to goodison & then Maine road for robsons winner, what I’m saying without rambling on is we’ve had ups downs, that’s what it’s all about, weve got the makings of a fukin brilliant team, how the fuck anyone can question fergie after a couple of bad results is beyond me, were utd fuckinell football eh
LexxytheNigerianRed – Hello buddy! You are not alone in the view that rooney is over-rated. Many fans of United, but especially opposition fans, agree with your view these days.
To me, he is doubtless a top, top player. Definitely deserving of being considered for the World-Player-of the-Year short-list. However, he is not as valuable as that would suggest, for he frequently has extended furloughs from the score-sheet; occasional controversies; a suspect temperament; and a mercenary history.
I still think that he is one of our most important/valuable players, and he will likely reach 4th in our all-time scorers list early next year. He may well go on to break other performance records at United.
Well, a good end to a pretty down week. 3 more points and we’re keeping pace with City so they cannot afford to slip up. We usually mark our mark later at the business end of the season when titles are there to be won. Been catching up on the posts, particularly after the disappointment in Basle.
Lessons learned? My tuppence worth:
a) Injuries. I don’t care what anyone else thinks, we’ve been scuppered by injuries this season. SAF is 100% correct in his utterances on this. Not interested in marquee signings. Our squad certainly measures up to other top teams in both the EPL and Europe if our players are available, fit and set up right. Forget Barca, it’s their unique system of play that’s they problem there.
b) Complacency. Injuries notwithstanding, you need to respect all opponents and press hard until each is safely put away. We suffered from getting a relatively CL easy group and seemed a little sloppy and complacent at times against opponents. We read too much into our early performances in the EPL against ordinary sides or sides like Arsenal and Chelsea who had not yet found their feet. Shit happens and lessons learned. And the lessons learnt must include recognising how important the likes of Carrick are to the team.
c) Panic: Don’t. We’ve got City in the cross-hairs.
@LexxytheNigerianRed – Agree 100%.
We cannot build or focus a side around Rooney, player though he is, as the peak of his game isn’t good enough or consistent enough to warrant it. Wayne generally gets a free pass as most folks love a trier, and he’s certainly that . However he’s EPL class, not world-class, as a lead the line striker.
This being said, Wayne has great ball skills, great work-rate and if more discipline can be added to his game has the makings a a top flight attacking midfielder (free role?) if he cuts out the Hollywood balls and lobs. I might be in a minority here but I was perfectly happy that SAF played Wayne deep during the current injury crisis and hopefully in the longer term.
Morning all
What a great day to be a red….. Oh, I mean what a great life it is being a red….
Mr C
Long time no see pal, hope all is well…….. Great post
TonyBee. Quality mate.
Morning.
Off topic but Amir Khan got a bit of a shock last night. The other bloke was one tough bastard. Great fight.
smartalex- I completely disagree if you say arsenal are under rated. They have been trophyless for 7 fuckin years and yet the media and fans say they are great bla bla bla. They were again shit yeatersay against everton but were rescued by Van persie again.
Like I said I don’t hate them. I prefer arsenal more than chelski , Liverpool ,City but I don’t agree when people say they have still a chance to win the league. So what if they have qualified for next round in Champions league , its not for the first time they have qualified. Like every season they will be knocked out by a top team again.
Morning lads,
Cracking match yesterday, I’m really pleased Carrick is silencing the doubters.
Am I the only one who’s pleased to see Fryers get game time too? Maybe a bit of competition will give Evra a kick up the arse…..
RJ
Hello, completely agreed on Carrick, he was simply superb yesterday and what more can be said of Jones? After watching highlights of the game I just could not believe his energy and drive, the bugger keeps screaming for the ball!
Lot of Carrick love around…. that’s about time!
Interesting to see Carrick and Jones both getting forward yesterday. They seemed to share the defensive duties and cover for each other, like our great midfields of the past. Rather than it always being Carrick shielding. I always thought Carrick was being told to keep it tight rather than having actually lost the ability to get forward and make defense splitting passes… you don’t lose that kind of ability. Yesterday it seemed that the reins were a little bit looser…
Rooney isn’t overrated he just needs to sort his head out. City are overrated.
Can u hear the Stretty sing? Morning Cedars. 
James
Morning pal, hope you enjoyed yourself yesterday and them ‘cold’ Singhas!
K stand barmy army
Hi everyone,
Ibliv dis is d resumption of normal utd gameplay where a hi degree of freedom is exhibited by all or players.
Wazza bn getting far too much stick and he’s shown all his detractors wrong.the lad is utd through and through.
Ain’t nothing wrong in wanting to b d centre of attention.besides,he ain’t selfish like some prima donnas we all know.
Special mention to nani and Jones.
Future’s bright indeed.
Any update on fletcher?
How com Marco Strellar walks free while our captain shacks up on d treatment table?it was a blatant leg breaker and totally intentional.c d replay.
Off topic,how in d world r u expected to beat barca when refs refuse to send off players like messi after hacking down alaonso?I bet if dat was lassana on a yellow Madrid would have bn down to 10.
Cheers!
Cedars. Yeh it was buzzin. I was on the piss last night so missed the inbreed Leeds vermin. You are now a legend at Old Trafford cricket ground. I’ll upload the pics when I get home later.
Ash, we’re going round in circles! Shall we dance?
When I think of top sides in England, I include Arsenal. If you look at records of every season of the Premiership, there are certain consistencies. Some of these are:
- United usually win it, and are almost always in the top three.
- Arsenal are always in the top four, have often won it, and are usually top 3 these days.
- Chelsea are almost always top 6, occasionally win it, and are top 3 in recent years.
Who the fuck else is there?
Personally, I’m sick to death of headlines like “Manchester Giants”
Fuck off! We are giants. city have a rich owner who might buy them some success.
Arsenal are fairly considered to be one of Europe’s top teams. Not giants, but a top 8 club in Europe nonetheless. Are they not seeded in Pot A of the CL despite having to pre-qualify?
James
Haha, brilliant stuff….. Must be some sort of a good luck charm that banner, 2 games and 2 wins!
Cedars? Who the fuck is Cedars?
As someone else pointed out last night that mouthy cunt Casillas got his comeuppance last night. “Oh Madriiid would never lose three one“. Err you did you cunt in your own back yard.
Oh and no mention that the man, the main man RVP scored yet again yesterday! hahaha
Come up North son, you know it makes sense
RVP > Messi
Morning Cedars, my fellow Red. I hope all is well and good with you.
It certainly feels much better waking up with another three points in the pot.
As ever, the future’s bright, the future’s Red.
King Eric
In all honesty and whilst I had that match live on my tele I did not watch it, not one second… The sight of both these teams sickens the fuck out of me….. Much rather watch a Championship match
Hope all is well with the Mrs pal
Cedars? Who the fuck is Cedars?
smartalex
Up for a dance it seems eh? I will let you in on a little secret…… Prior to my wedding my now ex wife and I decided to take up dance lessons so that we could perform during our wedding to the track of Sway by Dean Martin… We hired this Russian dance instructor, she was a babe alright but only problem was she had sever BO issues! Anyhow, we learned the moves and all was well…. Problem is, come the wedding day I was so fucking wasted that I forgot everything I had learned and so did the wife!
hahahaha
You clearly made a great couple Cedarsdevil! And wonderful Maya, so you made the important moves correctly. I’ll bet you both still laugh about that moment today!
Now where is Mike? I hope he is nursing a sever hang over after his birthday bash last night…
Again happy 39th pal
You had the ‘sway’ part down pat, no doubt!
smartalex
Cheers! I actually turned my ex into a die hard red…. They still live in Dubai and I just finished an hour of Skype with my princess Maya……. She is bloody adorable. Hoping to see them over the Christmas period
Happy Birthday Mike. Older than me now mate.
Cedars, it must be a good luck banner.
smartalex- Would love to dance with you.
I am not saying Arsenal are not a top side. But I am sick of the media who say they are so great that they have the right to win everything but don’t win it.
They are a team who play a beautiful football and thats it. A united fan said in a united blog that now arsenal are the only team who can beat barca. Ohh Are they serious?
Arsenal are a good side but not in United level. And thats A fact.
CedarsDevil, I hope you do see them, and have a great Red Christmas!
Hello james21! Enjoy yesterday, much? Pictures, me old lad, pictures!
That is a fact Ash!
I’ll save the last dance for you, I just have to make a call, back in a minute sweetie!
He’s now 39, he’s red to the core, he loves Robbo and he is a red nut
Goes by the name of Mike
I know Jones was a good buy, yet if yesterdays runs from midfield were to become a permanent thing and we don’t know if that will be his future position I’ll upgrade him to a great buy.prefer him there anyday.
Cedars & James
Cheers fellas! Birthday is on Monday so still got a whole day of being 38!! The party last night was quality though, made all the more enjoyable by a United win!
Well, Cedars, all human life is here on RoM, now we get a Russian dance instructor with BO. Love it., well not the BO. I was told by a veteran BBC rigger-driver who worked on various shows in Russia that the BO problem was at its height in the old Soviet era, slowly improving in the early 2000s. I was impressed five years ago when I saw you could buy deoderants in news kiosks in St Petersburg. Mind you, when I tried one it stll smelt like someone trapped in a submarine with no aircon.
Taken so long to read all the post-match posts I’m knackered, nothing left in the tank to comment. Must go out for a coffee . Someday may come back to comment on Rooney & Nani, Giggs form, Evans & Rio, Jones in midfield, Carrick’s quality, Paul Wilson’s shower of shite in the Observer, the use of the phrase ‘made of glass’, whether Smalling’s OK at full back, and other topics, but in the meantime I’ll just send greetings to you all, my little chickens. Except to LUFC, which I take to be a mis-spelling for Fuck U.
Mike & James
If I do make it over in the spring then its OT with the three of us fellas……….. Has to be the Stretty though for old time’s sake
Sir Giles
Fucking quality, loved the last line and what on God’s earth took you to St Petersburg?
Hi Smartalex yeh brill, throat is much better after many Lubricants were sunk. Alex Fergusons Red and White Army certainly takes its toll. Amongst many others inc UTD UTD UTD. Thats what makes the day better. The pics will be on later, just on a very wet M6 atm.
I love United, I always have. But I have no hesitations saying this – I don’t like Rooney. He’s a great player, no doubt but he is way overrated and seems to have a jealous streak. He had a problem with Ronaldo when he was here and now he seems to have a problem with Nani too. It annoys the hell outta me when I see him moan and berate Nani when, least we forget – wasn’t it Rooney who missed from three feckin’ yards from a wonderful Nani cross.
Just repeating my self here but here it goes……..
Liverpool – Rivals that I respect, proper club with proper history
City – Just fucking bitter and good for a laugh
Leeds – Scum of the earth, pure shite
L U….. L U F…. LUFC Fuck you!!! We all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum We all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum We all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum we all hate Leeds scum !!!
james21, arrive safely buddy!
Giles Oakley with another great comment at 12:28. Finished with a bang too!
Sir Matt started the rivalry with Leeds, Sir Alex carried on the tradition…….
Fucking Munich chanting sheep shagging cunts
I fucking hate Leeds
Cedars. I’m not sure if I could get in the Stretford end. Could phone up and ask for a 1 game transfer but not sure if they do that sort of thing.
James
If I do make it, do not worry about the tickets pal, its my treat and it will be the Stretty …….. Just hope my kidneys get the fuck better! hahaha
My ex wife’s boss is good friends with Sir Bobby, hint hint wink wink! hahaha
Cedars give us a wave!
Afternoon all
MG in the house baby, lets get the RED party started
Wonderful, took some of the pain away but I’m still recovering. Keep up the good work and I’ll my heart will heal much faster.
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I hope Sunderland do a proper job today, want to see that pathetic excuse of a football club that is Blackburn back down where they belong….
Captain Park
Good afternoon buddy
I really do admire Martin O’Neill as a manager, so much passion…. However I admired him even more as a player when he was at that great team that is Forest playing under the great man that is Brian Clough (RIP)
That sounds good Cedars. Not been in there since to early 80s. Always found my way round OT’s other areas but never back to the Stretford end.
Watching O’Shea in different colors feels strange
James
We will get in touch closer to the time my friend…. Stretty it is though
Since you ask, Cedars, I was in St Pete’s to executive produce a group of programmes for a Tchaikovsky season with the Mariinksy Theatre – the opera Queen of Spades, the ballet Swan Lake plus a doc about the latter. My last BBC programmes, 37 years after the first. Had a brilliant time, most of the time, some of the time, from time to time, nah, all the time! Don’t miss it thoug, only the friends.
Sir Giles
Get the fuck out!
Tchaikovsky season with the Mariinksy Theatre??
Not an expert on the matter by any means but I do salute you….. If i ever meet you (And I hope I will) then I hope our discussion will only be about United! hahahaha
Cedars, good afternoon pal. I with you on Blackburn going down too but the scoreline’s a bit discouraging at the moment. I can’t for the life of me understand what those Indian chicken merchants have to do with football; they know absolutely nothing!
Cedars, good afternoon pal. I’m with you on Blackburn going down too but the scoreline’s a bit discouraging at the moment. I can’t for the life of me understand what those Indian chicken merchants have to do with football; they know absolutely nothing!
I don’t think we should get carried away by this win, complacency creeped into the players e.t.c.
one game at a time, jones played fantastic there yesterday but that shouldn’t cover up the need for quality midfielders to add to what we have because united lack depth there, smalling isn’t a right back but currently we have no right back so he is doing a job.
of course there are positives, perhaps united got more clinical which makes a huge difference, the wingers were on form and nani especially was sublime, rooney got his act together and scored goals of huge technical quality, lets hope he does it consistently. Fryers made his premier league debut and looks right at home, it’s good to bring youngsters into a team playing well, increases their confidence.
Its amazing what 2 contrasting performances can do to “supporters” of this dear club, this is one major reason I always have been here on RoM mostly reading people’s views and comments and once in a while the odd comment from me.
I always see the glory hunters, the fans and the SUPPORTERS.
GGMU
Samuel – No one is getting carried away mate. It’s just good to see United play with a bit of style. The next 2 games will test our resolve ever further. Especially, the trip to Fulham. Not a happy hunting ground for us lately. What a goal by Sunderland!
Cedars I like dance with you. =)
Do you have a photo of Maya?
Good game yesterday, Tony V. had great day. Good sunday. bye
Good evening Red Devils around the world..
the sheep and the scouse…joke
Another cracker by Larrson!
Wonderful game full stop. MOTM for me was TonyV. Attacked his socks off and had their left back in fits.
As to the chorus of Now we push on to win the league? Well one can only hope that something clicks like we were at the beginning of the season. But make no mistake, this was wolves! Sounds like papering over the cracks if you think we don’t have midfield issues. Not saying we don’t have options, we always have options. But this was wolves. Rooney had acres of space all game. But for some reason both Wayne and Nani were banging in with skill, and these were good 10-15 yard goals, not tap ins. For my money, it was down to two men. One was Tony V. Now back to running at the left back. We needed that option and it was so effective. Long may our wingers get in like that.
Second man you ask? Actually a tie to Matt Merchant and the kit man. Lads were staying on their feet yesterday. Been alot of slipping and falling in the box in recent home games. This was much much more like it.
Bring on the EPL, bring on UEFA. This is football worth watching.
I’d like dance (mi ingles apesta) mta
It was good fun watching our B team come back to beat the chicken brigade. Well done, John and Wes.
I really should take tips from Steve Kean on impressing the boss. How can a person be utter cack at his job and still keep getting one raise after another?
In other good news: AVB is cracking up. And who is getting to him you ask? None other that our own former captain Gary Neville! AVB is wondering if Gary has microphones in the chelsky dressing room!
Ha ha ha. AVB is cracking up.
@CedarsDevil
Sorry for the slow reply mate, Sunday roast and all that.
I agree completely on Jones, he tracked back as well (the important intercepting header he made is a great example), although Fergie should be careful that he doesn’t burn out, he’s only 19 after all and he’s played in the majority of the matches so far this season.
The ABU’s on MOD said he only shone because Wolves were an awful team though, which I think is laughable…..
Afternoon all Reds! Hope everyone’s doing well. I was really happy to see Roo and Tony V back to their best form. While I’m convinced that Young will come good, maybe Tony’s form will motivate him to do better.
Anyway, I’m in the midst of studying for finals at my Uni here in the States. I’m in DC, and I hate to bring up politics, but it did get me thinking of something football-related. Most cities in Britain have a red and blue team, be it United vs. City, Liverpoo vs. Everton, etc. These colors also have meaning politically as left-wing vs. right-wing. (In America’s case it’s the reverse). We all know Sir Alex’s a true socialist, god bless him, but did the whole red vs blue thing have a political dimension while the clubs were being formed? Maybe Sir Giles has an answer!
Anyway, thanks for listening, I look forward to reading future comments! Ugh, back to studying!
@KitKat 12.40
Have a break, eh?
Willie – i didn’t mean to be a party pooper, i’m just one extremely realistic guy lol, like you say it was a great performance from the team, i think the fact michael carrick is playing well with confidence gave the team a platform to bomb forward and Damn united did that to a devastating effect and it’s nice to see us back to this style.
Of course there are issues that needs resolving in the team which i’m sure sir alex understands and will try rectify like he has done several times.
Yes fulham will be difficult to play against as usual, they got some quality and are very good aerially, that will be a huge test. same with QPR at loftus road, expect them to play like it’s a cup final, hopefully united will come through these difficult games well.
Stoke taking Our ‘Arry to the cleaners ….2 up at the break….
the universe will implode when Jones is matured and not only playing with talent.
Just imagine him in 3-4 years. fuck me absolute steal at 16m.
To all who say Rooney is overrated.
I saw mi mate the other day, he said to me he’d seen the white Pele.
So I asked, Who is he?
He said he goes by the name of Wayne Rooney.
Wayne Rooney ‘WASSA’ Wayne Rooney ‘WASSA’
He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney.
Overrated?…..My Arse!
Smalling generally does a really good defensive job at right back….let’s not forget that he kept an in form Agbonlahor quiet last week. Jarvis had the beating of him yesterday, but even the best full backs get torn apart now and then by a winger who’s having a good day.
Doesn’t give us much going forward….but then again, neither did Wes Brown when we won the Double! If you’ve got wingers like we do, and Evra charging forward down the other side, I’m not too bothered if Smalling isn’t the best going forward.
Saying that, I do think centre back is his position, he’s the best out of all our 3 youngsters there….honestly think he’ll go on to be one of the world’s best in that position. Just let the twins get fit, coz we’ve got nobody else at RB atm.
http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/james21e/?action=view¤t=Camera004.jpg
Who is this Cedars?
James21 – Class brother!
http://s1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/james21e/?action=view¤t=Camera006.jpg
soren
Would love a dance with you to any tune my love
James
Humbled beyond words pal……..Brilliant stuff
Cedars? Who the fuck is Cedars?
Cedars
Can you view the whole album with that link?
Now we want a picture of the actual Cedarsdevil beaming below the Holy Trinity.
Cedars? Who the fuck is this son of United??
James
Just did pal, did not notice it was an album ! Fucking fantastic stuff
Don’t like ya Stoke, but well done on beating the spuds!
Thats my nephew behind the banner.
I had to block out the face inside the ground, its one of the lads who sit in front of me.
It saves me posting the links to each photo.
Great performance yesterday and I think we can realistically take 16 pts from the next 18 and put the pressure on. This is where we come into our own now and kick on.
Performances yesterday of note was Valencia great to see him back and doing what we bought him for, raw pace and get chalk on your boots.
Cedars ? Who the fuck is Cedars?
Have me my own banner baby!
I knew there was something I meant to look out for yesterday! Just forgot in all the excitement!
Will it be on display every home match?
Have to say that the quality isn’t up to Stretford End Flags though
MG – Hoping for an interview from Arry, on the Stoke defeat?
Off topic
Fuckin great to see O´Neill at the sidelines again. In my opinion the next best manager in the league, and it suits him fine to manage a bunch of former reds in Camo-United.
Hello newbies if any,
ignore Cedars,
its his usual combination of medical pills and love for UNITED that will make him cross threshold sometimes and he acts funny
Ha ha ha
That’s what happens when your manager spends most of his week talking shit instead of preparing his team. Can’t wait for Harry’s reign as England manager to begin.
Hi Sandeep
Did you see the pictures of the banner posted by James?
Spurs really can feel hard done by after that… One of the linesman must be fucking blind. Adebayor miles onside and he flags it. This should be one of the top leagues in the world and there are referees not fit to take on little league games. Shocking.
Collyhurst.
Stretford end flags.
It’ll be going to OT and any away games I make.
Well, they benefited from a soft sending off last week against Bolton. After the decisions that have went against United, I don’t feel any sympathy for Spurs and delboy.
K stand barmy army…….oh ya baby
(Stretty > K Stand!!) hahaha
Cedars,
‘
watched them now..no wonder why u are on a high
so u got ur banner eh?
at least throw a party for this news
calling the attention of MG 
James,
great stuff mate, thnx to ur cousin, next time we would like to see
” ROM is the BEST” beside ” Cedars give us a wave”
great going
First Sir Giles and now James,
seriously,
who the fuck is Cedars?
RedNev > AVB
Willie,
what up pal, how are u?
btw,
where the hell is Funny Fred..Freddy
Who the fuck wants to fuck Cedars…….
we know but for god sake,
dont write Gazza’s name beside AVB
Fuck Cedars….who want to……. not fucking me….
Good result yesterday but still a lot of questions to be sorted.
One area which has always beeen solid when we have been succesful is the “spine of the team”.
Schmeical in goal/Pally/Bruce at centreback/Robbo/Ince in the middle/Hughes up front and the whole orchestra conducted by Cantona, followed by Stam/Johnson – Keene/Butt in the middle – York/Cole. Add the rest including Giggs/Scholes/Beckham etc. Followed by VDS/Rio/Vidic/Scholes etc
This generally proves iteself not only in conceding goals but also starting attacks form deep in our own half.
The next part of this equation is that the whole team usually tracked back in terms of helping out and ensuring the centre defence area was only put under limited pressure.
We now have two potential great goalies – but neither still fully proven – middle of the park we have Fletcher/Ando/TC/Carrick/Jones/Rooney but not consistent and both midfield and defence still beset with not only injuries but also two games a week. Also seems we are not as cohesive when defending – there are too many holes and pockets which the opposition find. We do not as a team seem to be reading what the opposition are going to do and we are putting ourselves under self inflicted pressure.
This year we have the same issue with the front men – little consistency due to injuries.
For the first few games we did look good but were playing a somewhat different style than in the past because we had the players who could -we were more fluid/more exchange of positions/fast paced/limit the tackling and nicking the ball. But we still had the consistency of Vidic and Rio. I remember looking at the style of play early on and reckoning we only need to play 3 “set positions” – keeper/two centrebacks – the rest just need come on and do the business.
We have gone back to a more tradtional line-up because we lost TC and Ando (heard he was carrying his injury for more than 4 weeks before they decided to send him for treatment – certainly his performances in that time would bear that out), now thank God that Carrick is back to something approaching his best and Jones has really shown his ability – the lad is tough physically and mentally.
My two main worries are that Vidic, our cornerstone at the back, is gone for the season. Rio lately has been steady but at times it’s obvious his back is not the best and he sometimes lopes around like a camel. Evans is lacking confidence – every time he makes a small error his game hits the shitter. Smalling I like at centreback – but is he capable of playing week in week out? Jones if he is allowed to play centreback will be consistent.
This means we have 2/3 rds of the spine as still questionable – obviously balance of the season will determine how we do and that will mainly depend on how well we do at the back.
It would appear for the start of the next season that Rio’s position will be up for grabs – who do we have who reads the game as he does? Who do we buy who can do his job? Jones will probably take the Vidic role, perhaps sooner than later out of neccesity , but his character shows he should succeed.
Fullbacks/wide players are still an issue but there we probably have the depth but not sure about the quality or the fitness/durability of the available players – think Evra though may be past his best so another worry. After Denis Irwin our most consistent left sided defence man ever.
SAF has his work cut out for him for sure – uptop and in the middle it would be great to see more of the youth team come out “en masse” as opposed to bringing them on piecemeal – he took a chance in 95 so why not give it a try again. The only way he will make men from some very talented boys. But going back to the earlier comment we had Bruce and Pally and Schmeical and Keene to “calm things down” – not sure we have that stability with what we are left with right now.
The Xmas/New Year period will tell the tale as to where we finish – I know we will finish top but we still do need to further develop the squad by internal organic growth and not by panic buying.
Watched Madrid v Barca yesterday – boys v girls. Ronaldo spent more time on his backside than he did on his feet and Htf does Sergio Ramos get a game? Valdes and Pique are so well protected by the players in front of them they rarely get put under any pressure – Barca just get on with it and are always on the front foot both when in possession and when defending – they literally collapse the space around the ball and provide no options for the opposition. They work harder than any other team I have seen. Still will be the team to beat and it still hurts knowing we won’t get the chance this year.
TC/Ando/Chica/Berba/Vida get fit soon – Rio get on to the yoga/pilates and get your back sorted – Evans get your confidence back. Smalling/Jones/Twins – keep on improving. All will be well.
COME ON YOU REDS _ MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MERRY XMAS AND A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR
UNITE 20/12 – 2012 (and maybe the Europa Cup)
TonyBee
Hahahahaha
TonyBee..
take cover, Cedars is attcking with a fully loaded machine gun..made in Lebanon
Sandeep – I’m fine pal.
Fred is still in mourning after last nights El Classico! 
TorontoRED..
welcome back, we missed ur posts!!
Sandeep1878 … the old bastard hasn’t been fully loaded since Nigerian Nurse gave him a five fingererd knuckle shuffle…. and emptied his old magazine…..
Willie,
was that El Classico or El Pussyco?
Slim will have a go at me again
Lol at TonyBee
Cedars,
i m sure you will defend against ” Old magazine” tag
TonyBee
You old fuck, just pissed my self
That will teach beetroot cunt to start giving it large. Well done Stoke. Spurs won’t win the league. I keep hearing how their squad is better than ours. Is it fuck. Defensively even at full strength they haven’t what we have. After modric and Parker in the middle they have no cunt. How poor was Parkers passing today. As I say he does a job but would do fuck all up top. Bale is alright but not much in his locker. No tricks or fuck all. All he does is smack into space and motor. Close that space down and he is fucked. Not in the same league as Nani. Put some tasty crosses in though to be fair. Had to laugh at Stoke. “He looks like a chimp, he looks like a chiiimp, gareth bale, he looks like a chimp“. Lennon has one good game in six. Striker wise they have adebayour, squat defoe and pav. We have rooney, hernandez, danny, berba and owen. They also don’t have the balls to fight for a title. We have a great squad when you take into account our injuries. Twins, Vidic, fletch? Clverley, ando, berba , hernandez and owen. They are a good side but imo not league contenders. I think one top midfielder, not marquee and perhaps a full back and we are laughing. We just need to get Tom fit and fletch back from the wilderness. Coupled with carrick and my current favourite player Jonesy we are laughing. I don’t like this “jones aint a midfielder“ line. He has done pretty fucking well thus far for United and Ingerlund. Get Tunni back in a year or so and get Ravel focused and we are good to go for years.
Is it me or is there a gap opening up between us the bitters and the rest of the pack?
I see that goofy mincing cunt Nasri has been giving it large about Chelsea being fuck all. Who do these cocky bastards think they are? Their arrogance will be their undoing. Hope Drogba takes them apart tomorrow night. Reckon they will get at least a point.
King Eric in the house!!
howdy pal..
even i think the gap open up..
a Win for Chelsea tomorrow would put things in perspective…even a draw will do…
@King Eric
Let’s hope Chelsea notice that gap opening up and go into higher gear against Shitey, both in their game and in their heads.
Can’t believe i’d want drogba to score tomorrow. Subsequently, 12 Dec 2011 shall be erased from my memories.
Or Torres? Maybe even fat Frank? I draw the line at Terry(cunt)
‘Cedars Give Us A Wave.’
Sandeep
I was only supposed to chant his name at Villa Park, I probably could have done a better job but only had 10 mins to put it together.
KingEric
I want Chelscum to thrash shitty tomorrow and that Tin Man empty head Belotelli to kick another door and rupture his cruciate.
I want to see that Shit Richard Madeley of a Manager put under some serious pressure.
Cedars? Who the fuck is Cedars?
Top pics James! Cedars making his mark at Old Trafford! Chelski need to put a few past city!
sparkz @ 17:13: “Smalling generally does a really good defensive job at right back….let’s not forget that he kept an in form Agbonlahor quiet last week. Jarvis had the beating of him yesterday, but even the best full backs get torn apart now and then by a winger who’s having a good day.”
I’m also a big, big fan of LargeManSmalling but yesterday – and in the loss to Basel – he was all-at-sea. Yesterday he was consistently beaten by Matt Jarvis’ one, best move – “shimmy, shimmy, shake and then onto his left foot”. Getting beat by an opponent’s one, best move on a consistent basis shows a lack of experience and concentration – just like when he and David De Gea played “After you, Alphonse; No, after you, Gaston” and allowed the underhit-cross to fall into the path of the man ghosting in at the back post. He will get over those mistakes just the way that De Gea got over his mistakes in the Charity Shield and against West Brom. LargeManSmalling is still a raw, young player and he’s having growing pains. He’s been thrown in at the deep end – in a different position, too – so we just have to take-the-rough-with-the-smooth.
“I don’t understand people doubting these players,” said Ferguson. “(Danny) Welbeck, (Chris) Smalling and (Phil) Jones have played for their country. If they are not that good, why are England playing them? They are fantastic young players. They will be the foundation of our club for years. Though we may gnash our teeth, there is no use wailing about it.”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jfPdgD5JPukebj0l9ktfFE1A0yZw?docId=N0390101323608777881A
King Eric @ 18:49: “I think one top midfielder, not marquee and perhaps a full back and we are laughing. We just need to get Tom fit and fletch back from the wilderness. Coupled with carrick and my current favourite player Jonesy we are laughing. I don’t like this “jones aint a midfielder“ line. He has done pretty fucking well thus far for United and Ingerlund. Get Tunni back in a year or so and get Ravel focused and we are good to go for years.”
I completely agree with your disdain for those who spout the ” “jones ain’t a midfielder” line” “. The kid is a footie player and he can do what he wants !
Assuming that you’re right in your assessment of Ryan Tunnicliffe – and I surely hope you are – then I don’t see the need for another midfielder. Surely, Tunnicliffe in addition to MIchael Carrick, Phil Jones, DarrenFletcherinho, Young Tom and Anderson is plenty to build on. I wouldn’t be pissed, though, IF a nice little move for Daniele De Rossi was our wee giftee to celebrate Hogmanay.
I’m even more excited than you about Ravel Morrison’s chances to make it BIG. I’ve not seen much of him but I did watch the FA Youth Cup closely and it was obvious that he was the best talent on display for UTD. Like I’ve written before, he’s reminiscent of Ricky Kaka – and it would be pretty amazing if Morrison could reach that level. Maybe Ravel should be “born again”.
Smartalex
SAF had a dig at Keane in his programme notes
Talking of a Black week for Utd.
”We will take alot of stick from critics and even from people who we thought maybe were on our side’
Oh yer Bitch.
“Most reds are salivating at the prospect of Jones and Tom Cleverley being our long term answer for the centre of the park”
Are you having a laugh?
Phil Jones is a central defender. We could have the possibility of Phil Jones developing in to a World Class central defender or an average midfielder who has been used as a utility man. I know which one I’d prefer. The fact our midfield is so poor means anyone who has a few decent games looks really good. Is he tecnically good enough to play in midfield? I don’t think so.
As a combination I hardly think they will be world beaters.
Robbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keane
king Eric….. Hi mate ….do you really rate Tunni…..is he as hard as they say…..
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Club-News/2011/Dec/manchester-united-announce-europa-league-ticket-arrangements.aspx
FAO Season Ticket holders.
Fergie took Keano to the cleaners, oh ya baby
James21 – We love Keano, he’s broad-shouldered so United comes first, also to him. He’ll be asked at some time how he feels about Sir Alex’ comment, and he’ll shrug, not able to see any issue.
smartalex
Yeh, like I said on the Keane thread I didn’t think he said anything wrong really. He was probably more pissed off.
Hahaha
@piersmorgan: Got to love Spurs. Every year they do well until Christmas, then do nothing for the next eight months. Bit like Santa.
Regarding Keano, I love the guy just as every proper red should…. However what he said and regardless of the intentions certainly annoyed the boss and to me that is a line no one should cross
Have to agree with AlphaRS about Jones.
How would he cope with teams parking the bus? It’s okay to play him in some positions cause he’s still 19 and learning the game, but his future lies in the central defence.
Give it some time maybe a year or two and we can even use these runs from him as a defender.
RE SAF and Keane
They’ll probably climb into a bottle of Malt Whisky and get pissed. What a way to end a Feud.
A Wave from Cedars!!
James spot on mate.
Sir Giles, awesome mate a Opera man. Ans a Red and RoM legend !
Jones, what a player. Future MF, Jones, Tunni, TC and Rooney.
So I take it we will all be rent boys for 90 minutes tomorrow! Get stuck in Captain, Legend, Leader, CUNT and while you are at it smack that ugly fuck Mario in the jaw, seeing you both get a red card will only add to my amusement!
James
I guess that is how they will sort it out! well said
@Zelf
I look at any combination of our central midfield options and then I look at the Premiership table.
How far do you have to look from top to bottom to find a team one of our central midfielders would get in to?
Then how far do we have to look to find a team both midfielders would get in to?
Jones???? A CB? FB? HMF? CMF? AMF? CF? NO just a footballer, one of the best.
Rooney??? A Lone striker? Second Striker? Left winger? Hole man? ACM? FB? MF? HMF? No, just a footballer, one of the best.
When TC comes back who has mastered simple 1-2 touch football were he passes gets in space to make himself and option and goes forward. The 3 together will ROCK OUT WITH THEIR COCKS OUT!!!!!
Sooner or later Jones will have to drop back anyway. When that time comes, hopefully Fletcher and Tom will be fit and ready to partner Carrick in midfield.
Sir Giles is the Godfather of RoM, without him this place will have no soul. I will never forgive that sheep shagging, Leeds supporting scum bag piece of shite Moses for attacking him
HIGH CEDARS!!!!! For 2 hours go rent boyz.
Zibbie
Hahahaha, cracked me up! Brilliant post
Well good to see people pull the pistols from their mouths. 2 points back $hity V$ ChelSki. Come on Rent BoyZ!
Zibbie
Rooneys overrated.
Costas, we could see in Jones career him go from FB, to CB then MF to AMF to playing behind the lone striker!!
OH and then back from striker to CB. hahahahahaha
Wow james some fucking people. hehehehehe
‘Mess with me I will mess with you, mess with my family I will mess with yours’
Quoting De Niro (Cannot remember which movie)
‘Mess with Sir Alex then I ‘ll fucking murder ya’
Quoting my self
Cedars
You talkin too me? Eh?
Some people Zibbie.
Still this Keane, Fergie thing on here? Deary me. We’re doing the media jobs for them. As James said, they’ll probably crack open a bottle wine about this little spat, and laugh at it. If Keano ever gets another job in management, who do you think the first person he’ll phone for players?
Much ado about nowt!
Ya Rooney is overrated, Sir Alex has lost the plot, we are utter and complete garbage…. Jones is a waste of money and so is DDG, we are a club in decline and have been so for the past 25 years….
James
Hahaha
$hity in virgin territory here. View from the top. Many games, African Nation games will take their leader. 60+ guys want a game. Mid week sucked, Rooney looked lost, silver lining is kids can play in Europe and save old legs of Rio, Giggs and Park for a PL title run. The 3rd round of the FA to fuck them up. It is a long haul, one Man Utd has done before.
Willie
It wont be wine pal but a proper 25 year old Scotch, however and for your eyes only….
Robbo>>>>>>>>>>>Keano
Ha fucking ha
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12040_7371606,0.html
Is anyone else feeling the love for Phil Jones?
See the scousers lost again………Go Little Mix…..!!
Shit happens to everyone, how you respond is what counts, Rooney a brace a 4-1, 3 point win!!
At any one assigned position you can find maybe a better #9 then Rooney. A better #10 and so on but try to find 5 better players with winning influence on his team. You can not. Rooney is a winner. And wanted by all his peers. And he is a Man Utd player, thank my God!!!
James
Fuck me side ways, and to think Jones is only 19! Such wise words for a kid…..
I am a dumb fuck now and was a bigger one at 19!!! hahahaha
Ya Rooney is overrated, Sir Alex has lost the plot, we are utter and complete garbage…. Jones is a waste of money and so is DDG, we are a club in decline and have been so for the past 25 years….
My thoughts exactly Cedars. I’m fed up with this shite team I’m going to support Stockport County at least then I can sing ‘we support our local team with the rest’ And its all Gibson, Berba and Evans fault.
NEVER!
Of course Rooney is over rated. 160 goals!
James21 SPOT FUCKING ON MATE!!!!! Jones knows he is the man as all other who have played with him. Messi and CR7 are awesome and so is Wazza, 3rd 4th best in the world isn’t all bad.
James
You forgot Carrick pal, always his fault too! hahahahaha
Bunch of fake wankers the lot of them
James I’m kookoo for Jones. Willie, KE and I have been talking up his MF potential since the summer!!!!
Can he be to good/ or talented for CB? Or is that stupid.
I can’t believe I actually read it on here. I have to keep laughing to myself. ROONEY IS OVERRATED!
Cedars You too are feeling the Love for Philip Jones. <3
RVP slightly edges it ahead of Rooney for me……..
RVP – Arrrgh drooling Homer Simpson style over a doughnut
Hahahaha
I actually avoided getting involved in that ‘Rooney is overrated’ pathetic debate the other day, just had my blood boiling
All I can say is what patterns I seen from the past.
Manchester United and SAF build from within. The academy, then buying 15 to 18 young maybes. Talented 18 to 20 for some more money and big buys to fill holes or big names. . The latter, Rio, Rooney, Berba before that Verone, Keane Ect. I see one or 2 of the bigger buy’s will come in the next 2 1/2 years with the rest of the young ones.
RVP is a bad muther fucker when healthy!
Oh and some like Vida, Evra and Carrick as well.
Samantha Mumba ‘Always Come Back to Your Love’
This song has had this old fool in the groove for the last two days, dancing away to ease the pain baby…
Hell ya
Time to eat and smoke some green, luv this place and you men.
19
160
Love you too Zibbie
Cedars declining an invite to bash?
Zibbie
I have to admit I didn’t know much about him until he arrived at Utd, the guy is looking good.
‘Show me where I belong tonight give me a reason to stay’
In dance mode baby, now where is soren?
James
Happens from time to time! hahaha
Oh wait, I have been off topic, this may offend some, some are way too serious and have no frigging life….
Do fuck off and learn how to smile you sad bastards!
Cedars
I got involved in my usual Diplomatic manner.
James
I noticed that pal, when I get involved I just do not know how to be diplomatic! I just fucking BASH
Hahahaha
I bet Mike is wasted again, after all its his birthday tomorrow………..
Get stuck the fuck in Mikey
@Alpha … you say” look at the Premiership table” and then ask: “How far do you have to look from top to bottom to find a team one of our central midfielders would get in to?” Answer: 2nd, which is only one place down from the top. There you will find Manchester United, which is the team any one of our central midfielders will get into.
And then you ask: “Then how far do we have to look to find a team both midfielders would get in to?” Same answer.
You talk about Jones being a central defender as if it is written in stone. But he is 19, ffs. He is not exactly an old dog needing to learn new tricks, is he? Many players have changed position at a later age and never looked back. Evra was a striker during his youth. When he turned pro, he played as a striker, midfielder or (mostly) a winger for his first three to four seasons, before switching to left back (a move he first made out of necessity during a match when the regular left back was injured, and which he resisted on a permanent basis for quite some time).
You say Jones is not technically good enough to play in the midfield. I’d like to hear in detail what you mean. I’d be the first to agree he has a lot to learn, but at 19, who doesn’t? I haven’t seen anything which indicates it will be beyond him. The lad does not look out of his depth at all. Indeed, he looks mature beyond his years. He has great big bucketloads of that most treasured of attributes, a never-say-die-spirit. He wins the ball well (and if he didn’t, that would hardly bolster your argument for him as a central defender, would it?). He holds it and carries it forward very effectively, makes good passes, and gets himself into useful positions.
It is telling that SAF seems perfectly willing to play him there. And it’s no use anyone saying he only does so because we have injuries. Bollcoks to that — for the simple reason that SAF actually has the option of several others around Jones’s age who are specialized midielders, yet he prefers to fall back on Jones. Not to mention several older, more experienced hands who are not presently injured. That tells us something.
Wouldn’t have it any other way mate.
Got to dash now I’m working away next week so probaly won’t get on much all depends on the Phone signal.
Keep it United.
Yeh have a great Birthday Bash Mike.
James
Bonne nuit buddy, take care
StateSide
You always make so much sense, it confuses my depleting brain! hahahaha
Hope all is well my friend
Personally I don’t think Rooney is overrated. No talismatic player ever is. Didn’t happen for him at Basel, but that’s football. You ask Real fans and they are questioning Ronaldo after yesterday. Imo we are better than that. By the way, if they don’t like Ronnie, I’d gladly have him back.
Anyway, Rooney is fixing to become (and stay) the top United scorer during the Fergie era. No small feat at all when you take into account the strikers that we’ve seen at this club.
@Zibbie
Oh I have no doubt that Jones will do an O’Shea and play in every position. Even between the sticks. But if we don’t want him to become a utility man, then he has to play in one position. Sheasy coyuld have become a brilliant central defender if he had done the same.
Costas > United’s medical team
@Cedars
I am not better than them. Even if I tried I couldn’t pull off the medical marvels they do each season.
I am not to surprised that Rooney and Nani have the most minutes played. Probably says alot about the status of injuries and the young keepers needing protection. Sure Edwin had most minutes last year by some margin. And after him it would have been members of the defense.
Here are the minutes so far:
Rooney 1277
Evra 1275
Nani 1215
Jones 1212
DeGea1155
All others have under 1000 minutes.
Numbers from 7cantonas.
I know Rooney has been called out talisman this year. By this evidence, he has been crucial.
But I worry that he could start to tier. He has defo lost a step of pace in the last year or two. Not saying he is slow, just that he isn’t knocking about like he was 3-4 years ago. Maybe it is maturity to his game?
Comparing Jones to O’Shea is wrong in my opinion. Sheasy WAS a utility player Jones on the other hand is a fantastic footballer…..
I will always love JOS to bits, he is a United lad however Jones is a far better footballer and he is only 19!!!
Costas
You snide bugger! Loved it pal hahahahaha
Denton. Spot on mate. Morrison is like a young Kaka. I would say though he reminds me of a young Gazza. Top drawer. Arrogance too which is sometimes a good thing if channeled correctly.
TonyBee. Hello pal. Oh yes Tunni is one tough little bastard. Just ask that ponce MCEachran.
Alphars. Alright pal. Sorry I don’t buy that bollocks line about how many of our midfield would get in the other top teams. Well I would take carrick a fit fletch most certainly tom and a young Jones over adam henderson, barry, milner( silva aint a central midfielder) parker and modric. Modric is good but nowt special. He has summat like eight goals and twelve assists in hundred and thirty odd games. Hardly this world class playmaker. Mikel fat frank etc. Some folk do the likes of carrick and fletch a dis service. These lads have been mainstays in four league titles and three european cup finals. What have the aforementioned achived? Yes. Nish. Fuck all. Sum of the parts and all that. So don’t you rate cleverley and Jones? These two could make a right pairing. I remember Suhayl coming on here just after we signed jones and his family are rovers fans and said the lad will end up in midfield. He is wasted at the back with his surging runs. He is also popping up with goals in ganes now or at least busting a gut to get in box. If all the other clubs you go on about had such great engine rooms how come they have won fuck all? You can’t wing it for five years and not get found out. I just think too many people roll out the cliche “weak midfield“ far too easy. Another addition wouldn’t go amiss. Oh I forgot arsenal. Wilshire is decent but who else? Arteta is ok. Rosicky. Song. Nah.
@Cedars
Cheers. They are the gift that keeps on giving.
I have to disagree about O’Shea though. He showed a lot of promise as a CB in 2002 in my opinion. It’s just that Fergie couldn’t resist using him as a left back because he liked to bomb forward. Plus Silvestre and Brown clicked well with Rio. By the time we needed O’Shea to play as a central defender during Rio’s suspension, it wasn’t natural to him anymore. For me it’s always better to focus on one position.
Night all you red beauties
keep it RED and keep it UNITED
Stateside. Ha. You beat me to it mate. Its a bizarre statement isn’t it? If none of our engine room wouldn’t get into any top six team then why the fuck have we been so succesful. Scholes was used sparingly and hargreaves didn’t play in over three years. It baffles me. I am sick to death of hearing about fucking “scotty“ parker. He is shit. Sure he gets a foot in and mops up but so do Carrick and fletch. Thing is they have much more to their game. Parker couldn’t pass wind. Have you seen his passing ? Spot on pal.
You know what the problem is guys? In the beggining of the season all you guys stood up and said that we dont need any new players and that we’ll built a young team. Well, there’s the results. Out of Europe (dont say that Europa League is a competition for clubs like United) and looking worse and worse as the season goes on. Its like watching Arsenal. We need a new manager, Ferguson does not communicate with the outer world anymore and most importanly signings. Bring players in or else it will take another 10 years to celebrate a CL again.
king eric and cedars … cheers lads. i am hoping to see a lot more of TC and Jones together. could be our “iron fist and silk glove” combination, if that makes sense. the continuing slagging off of carrick is simply bizarre. great that we’ve got so many fans. sad that so many are ignorant fucks, spouting bullshit and pigswill as if it was cast iron fact. anyway, fuck this typing on my phone, back later when i on a real keyboard!
I totally agree with costas, moving players everywhere can affect their development. jones will be a great player and i have no problem with people wanting him to be a midfielder but i see him as a quality centre half, he was bought as one and of course he is capable of playing several positions but you require more than just lungbursting fantastic runs to be a world class midfielder, when we bring players of quality through in that position or buying, jones will play more as a centre half then, he still needs work on his positioning as a centre half but in time and with more experience gained, he’ll be a mainstay in the team at the back.
At the moment, we have injuries and he’s filling in due to necessity and is doing a good job.
haha fuck me arry swore during the post match interview and i quote
“He’ll look at it tonight, on TV, when his wife is making him a bacon sandwich and think, ‘Oh **** me, what have I done there?”‘
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/7371421/Harry-Ref-got-decisions-wrong
did anyone hear it?
I know I might get some stick for saying this, but Jones passing might be better than Fletcher’s. Those doubters claiming that Jones does not have what it takes to play in midfield really need to pay attention to his movement off the ball and how accurate he is with his passing. I can’t wait to see him partnering Cleverley, although the Jones-Carrick combo is great.
fletcher has always been a decent passer not a great one so comparing jones with the scot man isn’t saying much to be honest.
his movement off the ball is great and his swashbuckling barnstorming runs forward are classy but like i’ve said, he is not a natural midfielder. even he recognises that and claims centre half will be his eventual and final position, his versatility is great but i wouldn’t call him one of the creative midfielders united require right now, united can’t solve these important pressing issues with him even though he can play there or we’ll be still stuck in square one.
For now and with the injuries the club is unfortunately accumulating at the moment (hopefully more players will get off the treatment table soon) then jones can continue in a temporary position he has been great in.
of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions but that’s my view.
Saw this on reddit…seems more relevant after seeing the clasico game
http://imageshack.dk/imagesfree/QB308644.gif
(thanks to reddit/ forsstromftw)
Samuel … “At the moment, we have injuries and he’s filling in due to necessity.” I don’t buy that. It’s true we have a lot of injuries, but they are currently hitting our strikers and defenders more than anything. Of our midfielders, only TC and Anderson are officially listed as injured. As far as we know, Carrick, Giggs, Park, Fletcher, Gibson, Pogba and Morrison are all midifleders and are all available (I didn’t Young, Nani or TonyV, who are more specialized as wingers, even though both TonyV and Young are said to have played in the midfield). Like others here, I have to wonder what’s up with Fletcher, as he is not reported injured or ill, yet isn’t playing.
I actually think the situation with Pogba and Morrison is interesting. Both are specialist midielders who are well known to the club and SAF, and are highly regarded by some on here (whose opinion I have no reason to doubt), and yet still SAF prefers to play Jones “out of position” as a midfielder. Why? True, Jones already has a year of first team football under his belt, and he clearly is someone whose attitude and football nous have matured early. But he isn’t that much older than them: he is less than 1 year older than Morrison (by a few weeks) and a little more than a year older than Pogba (also by a few weeks).
By his actions, SAF is saying that even without any prior background or experience in the midfield, Jones is already a better option there than these two youngsters about his own age who everyone agrees have bagloads of awesome natural talent and who have had years of training (United training, at that) in that position. And not only that, but is also a better option than some of our experienced players. That’s quite a vote of confidence, that. Makes me wonder, when people on here say “he’s not a midfielder”, and “won’t ever be more than an average in the MF”, and isn’t good enough technically to play there.
Jones as a defensive midfielder is a great option IMO. Seems to be doing the job quite well actually.
Morning all
AVB has asked Chelsea players to inc him and his staff in goal celebrations.He believes this shows they are UNITED. Is this guy for real….
@Sam
I see where you’re getting too, and by all means I agree with you that we still need a creative midfielder. However, my view is that Jones has already proved he can play a holding midfield roll or box to box. He certainly has the class to sit back and defend our back four or drive forward when needed, which is what Sir Alex mostly looks for in a Central Midfielder.
As you may have noticed, all our central midfielders can defend as much as they can attack. Yes some may be better than others in one of these 2 things, but you certainly don’t see “creative midfielder” type of player that sits behind the strikers. In fact, We havent had a proper #10 in some time now. Which leads me to believe that if the Gaffer decides to bring in another midfielder, it will be another Box to box type of player, not a “Sneijder” type.
at times during all these transfer soap operas you dont get why a fuss is being made about a player, why managers are fighting each other over a player, why one is willing to put in an outrageous last minute bid or pay another club money to cancel a contract for player like in Obi’s case. With Phil Jones, with bloody Phil jones you can see why, will be leading put the reds for several years to come, several finals to come and is the icon of the new United era. After the Basel game i posted something about what Roy Keane and i still stand by that, despite the fact that Fergie seems to have been hurt by it. Some agreed with Keane’s words, some didnt, some were outraged, but say what you will, one of the things people miss about a player like Roy is the fact he didn’t mince words, would criticise his own fellow players during a match, would strike out at his own if he felt they were not playing to their best. If you had a bad game, he wouldnt come out and be the yes-man/the excuse merchant, you had a shit game and didnt deserve to win thats it. Interestingly enough, most people have said that in all the truckloads of players that have gone though the Fergie Refinery, Roy Keane was the player most in the mould of Ferguson. Fiery as they come. Maybe Roy Keane should have kept quiet about certain things, for example after the Basel game. But he’s not one to do that. I’d have loved it if after his criticism he had added that the Basel experience would make the young players better for it, because it will. Right now though i just hope Subotic and Javi Martinez sign and we’ll be set up. Cleverley to come back, Phil taking control of the midfield(its refreshing to see that almost everyone on here is now agreeing Midfield could be his longterm position. And as STR said a midfield of Clev and Phil could turn out to be a dream mid). For me despite the fact that it appears everyone in the world knows about the midfield thing(someone was saying the other day of you went to a native village in the Amazon, the wild bushmen would tell you United needs midfielders), i think we need to get one more solid,tall,mean, terminator eyed..eeerr Serbian defender, yep Subotic. Coz for all his versatility Phil may end up taking over the midfield.
Also interesting is This article that appears to have been written by a bunch of ROM readers, its like a summary of what everyone was saying yesterday.
“And while every outfield team-mate converged on the near touchline to congratulate Nani on his 18th-minute opener, Rooney cut a solitary figure as he trudged back alone to the centre circle, uttering some kind of complaint to referee Michael Oliver.”
“Rooney and Nani, despite their penchant for throwing their arms in the air in displeasure whenever one does not pass to the other,…”
“He was not United’s stand-out performer. The much-maligned Michael Carrick, suspended for the Basle game, was the man of the match for the assurance and, unusually, the drive he brought to United midfield, but Rooney was not far behind. ”
“Fourteen months have passed since Rooney signalled his aborted attempt to leave Old Trafford by alluding to a lack of ambition at the club having failed to receive “assurances I was seeking about the future squad”. There is no suggestion that Rooney is growing restless again, but as injuries bite and United look out on a horizon that includes Europa League football, it appears as though the 26 year-old has taken the midweek Champions League elimination harder than most. Rooney failed to deliver during the 2-1 defeat against FC Basle. He did not do for United what Lionel Messi repeatedly does for Barcelona or what Cristiano Ronaldo achieves regularly for Real Madrid by making the difference between success and failure. ”
“As for Rooney, I thought he was outstanding. I suppose his performance just shows how valuable getting that ban reduced is going to be for England in the summer.”
that last quote whose underlying meaning i wholly understand, proves for me that RooRoo is more of a Tiger Woods player than Muhammed Ali player, easily affected by the hordes of media wolves. Laying the blame on him for England potentially crashing out in the Euros because of his absence seemed to have affected him, and i dont think that its a coincidence his drought ended after the end of that particular saga.
Anderson’s new hairstyle by the way
http://www.use.com/showorig.pl?set=68778c48f9203ec9e419&p=1
Good morning Red devils around the world,
http://strettynews.com/2011/12/another-scapegoat-that-is-jonny-evans/
off topic
“old arry i invented football” should be punished for saying that:
“here were two blatant handballs and the referee missed them. I thought he had a poor day”
now that rooneys ban was reduced the fa can concentrate on the things that matter
Was Ando born with some kind of curse that he couldn’t have a decent hairstyle?
cmon costas it looks better,slightly better,maybe old bebe gave him some advice how to cut his hair
Manchester United is looking for the next Evra
Manchester United are watching 17-year-old PSV Eindhoven defender Jetro Willems.
Sir Alex Ferguson is scouting around for a long-term replacement for Patrice Evra, who will be 31 in May.
The Red Devils boss sent his brother, Martin, to see the Dutch left-back in action against NAC Breda at the weekend, according to The Mirror. PSV won the game 1-0, and Willems impressed by setting up the decisive strike for Dries Mertens in the first half. Willems, a Holland youth international, joined PSV last summer from Sparta Rotterdam on a three-year deal. He has made seven appearances for the club so far.
Time for a new thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone agree or disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Morning all
Cedars
Agree!! Thanks for my birthday wishes pal. Was a hell of a weekend. Off work today as my ankle is like Ant McPartlin’s swede. not been hospital yet but deffo ligament damage!
we dont need another evra
Mike
Pleasure my friend, glad you had a blast! So one more year for the bid Four O eh!
Hope you won’t be out for the season pal with that ankle injury though….. Oh and I was actually taking the piss with my post at someone who regularly makes identical comments… hahahaha
Big Four O not bid………….. Me and my typos again!
Cedars
Yup, 1 more year and the big four 0 is a reality. Hopefully we’ll be heading towards a big two 1 of prem titles at that point!
rat1p
Just picked up on that! hahahaha quality
Mike
Will never forget my 40th, was still married and the Mrs surprised me with an all paid for and arranged trip to Manchester for a game, was against Blackburn…. I was living in Dubai at the time and it was that trip that I ran into Sir Alex in the lift at the Edwardian and had a chat! Great memories
Forgot to add, that game against Blackburn still holds the record for the highest attendance at OT in the Premiership era……
People were just flooding in to see Cedars, oh ya baby! hahahaha
Phil Jones has STARTED for England as DM. He is now considered by Capello as a shoe in as backup DM for the Euros. (Cue stupid excuses slandering Capello)
Chris Smalling has STARTED for England at RB. (Cue excuses slaying Capello’s mum)
These lads are not inferior or weak in those positions, despite claims of CH preference.
Sir Alex, Rene, Tom and Danny have each spoken this year of the vital experience gained during the very deliberate playing of players out of position in Youth, Reserve and First Team matches. It is part of their development. Those who fear long term disadvantage from early career position rotation, should fear not.
smartalex
Absolutely bloody spot on! If you have the skill and talent to play in different positions than you do! Just look at the late Duncan Edwards (RIP)
Good day CedarsDevil! Are you well, my friend? We’ve all been following you since that Blackburn game. You are why we’re here on RoM, setting new records for attendance.
Redblizzard
Interesting article. Like I said on Saturday, Rooney isn’t overrated He just needs to sort his head out.
I fully agree he is overpaid but you can say most top footballers are overpaid. These owners like Monsour and Abramavic are to blame tho and even going back further to Jack Walker at Blackburn. Utd always had a good pay structure but have had to break it to compete for the best players. I’ve never blamed Jack Walker because he saw a vision for a team He’d supported since he was a Boy. ABUs will always blame Utd but don’t they blame us for everything.
I’ve seen Rooney pull Utd out of the shit on many occasions with his class when the rest of the team is underachieving and any Utd fan must be mad to ever want us to loose him. We never know what goes on behind the scenes at OT but SAF will sort it like he did with Sheringham and Cole. And lets not forget Cantona used to give the cold stare to players who shot wide or didn’t pass to him. Ronaldo and Nani are also guilty of this.
The problem is if you are a fan post 1991 you will only know success (Not You personally I may add just using the word ‘You’ in general) It becomes easy to slate a player and tag him Overrated if he’s not banging goals in right left and centre.
Alex Ferguson stated in an Interview, Inside Utd magazine. He was asked.
Wayne Rooney has played a few games in the centre of midfield this season. How long have you been toying with that idea?
SAF. I haven’t been toying with it at all. It was something that was bought on by circumstances beyond our control. Carrick was Injured, Cleverly was injured, Anderson was injured and Darren Fletcher isn’t at the stage yet where he can play every game. So it was forced on me a little bit.
He finishes with’ We know his best position is up front.’
We just have to be patient with them all atm. But Overrated. No Chance.
Cedars? Who the fuck?
Who the fuck IS this Cedars-Devil?
Cedars
Great gift from your ex. Blows my gift out tv’s water. 3 pairs of socks for me!
Mike
Hahaha, would still keep you warm though, so its not all that bad eh?
smartalex
I am very well my friend, as well as can be! You humble me with your kind words…
Cedars? Who the fuck now? hahaha
Mikekelly12 – Latex socks I understand, being a celebratory moment, but why pairs?
One for you and one for your him?
Just kidding! You’re a thriving heterosexual, no doubt!
Is tomorrow the anniversary of your birth?
Mikekelly12 – oops, sorry, just re-read your earlier comment! Here’s Marilyn, all for you.
Happy Birthday Mr President …
Happy Birthday to you!
Ooh! Don’t worry, I’ll clean that up.
Today we celebrate the birthday of a true United loving red to the core and as a bonus he also loves Robbo!
Happy Birthday Mike
A typical Mail story, all conjecture no substance, but a couple of pictures do show the players looking as glum as I’ve seen them. Like a wedding with no alcohol.
“No WAGS allowed! United stars ‘celebrate’ Christmas with low-key Manchester party”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2073058/Manchester-United-players-celebrate-Christmas.html
SAF wants to give you a Birthday Pressie Mike but he says you’ll have to wait till May. 20
Happy Birthday mate.
Happy birthday Mike, Hope u had/Have a blast..
cheers pal
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who the fuck is this cedars?
Give us a wave
Gutted, forgot to record MOTD or Match Choice on Sat, and the BBC are too cheap to have it on iPlayer for more than a second. So I missed El Classico, the boxing (which was free for once), and still haven’t seen the full Wolves game. What a pain in the arse, and to make it worse I won’t be missing the Rent Boys playing the Bitters tonight. Very strange feeling wanting Chelsea to win.
@Balaji, luminary? More like loon! So does this mean I get a fancy cape and a dead-posh flat cap w/ tassels? Always wanted a further education, me.
@Smartalex 9:58 – spot on regarding the RoM Rooney debate. Nobody on earth denies Wazza’s talent. The lad can make grown men cry with his ability and we love him for that. After Basel, the only thing I questioned was his dedication as he didn’t match the determination of others that night. He didn’t seem to take responsibility for his own piss poor performance either. Considering he demanded the role of United’s most expensive player it left a bad taste to see him go missing as we went out of Europe. I’ve long since accepted Rooney will have goalless runs punctuated with pure brilliance, and two seasons ago I would’ve happily bet money he’d be here for life but now you never know and im not one for being twice bitten. Having said that, the manager is still happy for him to be here, and so am I to be honest. We all know he’s world class on his day and long may his playing career with United continue, but everybody should also know he ain’t above criticism either. Not a fucking chance. Its not even clear as day that he’s been the best striker in OUR league for the last 7 years, so lets not get too giddy over the “white Pele”. Hype aside, I just hope Wayne finishes his season with aplomb and without incident. The more solid seasons he has between him and Ambitiongate, the better. More goals than RVP by Crimbo would be a good start!
and Lol @ Anderson’s head. Lets hope the new aerodynamics have a positive effect on his fitness and he stops getting fucking injured. Was gutted when Smalling was out early in the season as it meant Jones couldn’t be used in midfield with Ando when Cleverley was out injured. Had a hunch at the time Jones could end up in midfield for us, and after recent performances I think I prefer him there after all. He has good feet as well as the drive to win the ball back. Not too shabby in front of goal either, and he’s still a teenager ffs. Looking forward to seeing all three fit in 2012.
@King Eric – I live in LS8, Roundhay/Gledhow way.
You’re from Wetherby and support Man U? Why?
Also, I post on a few Leeds forums but sometimes I read blogs by other fans. Why not? I’m always intrigued about the mindset of supporters of other clubs. However, this blog mainly specialises in paranoid ABU conspiracy rants, and it’s always a laugh to light the fuse by leaving a one line comment, refreshing the page a few moments later and seeing five posts full of venomous remarks such as “sheep shagging scum!” “fuck off Leeds cunt!” “your team is shit!”
Yeah we are paranoid and full of conspiracy yet chose to sit our backsides on OUR BLOG
Yet you are using free will to counter on a blog which has no concern to you
I’m not venomous I’m just truthful
How many days is MK12 having a birthday? Cedars started it on Friday I think
LUFCWhite
You don’t have to leave a one line comment to be reminded that you’re a “sheep shagging scum!” or be told to “fuck off Leeds cunt!” “your team is shit!
Just wear a Leeds shirt in public.
MG
Hello my good friend….. Regarding Mike, he’s actually been on the piss since Friday and hence I started paying my tributes! His birthday is today and the poor bugger did his ankle and will be out for the rest of the season….. First Vida and now Mike, such a blow! hahahaha
LUFCWhite – Because pal my old man is a United fan so brought me up to support them. Roundhay hey? Or Gledhow? Big difference. Gledhow is more Chappy.
Cedars
Damn these injuries – we might have to settle for the Europa League
But Cameron has taken us out