Alan Wiley
“First and foremost, what we have to remember is that the goal is within the laws of the game. The game hadn’t stopped and so, in essence, Mark was right in law. You’re taught right from the very start that you don’t stop until the whistle blows or the ball goes out of play, so in law the goal is a correct goal. I’m sure that Mark must have thought at that stage, at 1-0 to Manchester United and Spurs wanting to keep the game going and Gomes had the ball in his hands, that he wanted to keep the game moving. The situation is that if you’re going to think about bringing it back, for instance if a player is fouled but then he loses his footing and he still can’t keep control of the ball, then you can bring it back. In that situation there, Gomes has actually got the ball in his hands and has actually still got possession of the ball. What he then does after that is nothing to do with the referee. If he chose to throw the ball on the ground, that was his choice. He didn’t throw it there because he lost control of it, so therefore in those circumstances you’re probably giving the goalkeeper two bites of the cherry.”
Graham Poll
“Due to the bizarre run of events that followed, Nani’s legitimate penalty claim was overlooked by many, including Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp. Nani appeared to be pushed from behind as he raced past Younes Kaboul. He went to ground very easily as most players do, but if an attacker does not go down then he will never get the decision. Clattenburg could not see Nani deliberately handle the ball from his position. Anyway, it became irrelevant when Heurelho Gomes picked up the ball. The referee would want the game to flow and playing on was the best decision having not given the penalty. For the record, handball is not a mandatory caution, whatever Alan Hansen says. If Gomes felt he had a free-kick why walk 10 yards up the pitch to take it? Why not play to the whistle? His actions were bizarre and caused all of the problems. At no point did Clattenburg blow the whistle or make any move to do so, nor did he signal ‘advantage’. He shouted ‘Play on’, but you do that when there is no offence. If Gomes had put the ball down at the point where Nani had handled it and Nani had kicked it in from there then I am sure that Clattenburg would not have allowed the goal.”
nb. Alan Wiley is the referee who Sir Alex Ferguson labelled unfit and unable to keep up with the pace of the game. He has no reason to speak favourably of Manchester United or fight our corner.
1. The linesman is at fault. He saw Nani get his shirt pulled in the box and he saw Nani handle the ball. He didn’t raise his flag for either of these things. He had a much better view of both incidents than Mark Clattenburg and if the linesman didn’t raise his flag and alert the referee to either incident, then that is his problem and he is accountable. Putting his flag up after a load of verbal from Gomes is pointless.
2. The linesman, Simon Beck, is the same linesman who didn’t spot Gareth Bale running the ball out of play in the first half (and Bale has the nerve to question Nani’s sportsmanship! Hypocrite) and also didn’t spot Didier Drogba’s offside goal against us last season. Chelsea won the game 2-1 and a few weeks later won the league by 1 point. Spurs and United fans should be united in condemning this man’s incompetence.
3. Once putting aside the blame of the linesman, you then have to point the finger at Gomes. He heard no whistle (because there wasn’t one) he saw no flag (because it didn’t get raised) yet decided a freekick had been awarded. 10-year-olds down the park on a Sunday afternoon know better than that. Should Nani have picked the ball up and put it on the penalty spot because he believed he should have had a penalty, despite no whistle or flag? You play to the whistle, regardless of what decision you think should have been made.
4. Nani was dishonest to knowingly touch the ball then get up and score. Just as Kaboul was dishonest when he pulled Nani’s shirt in the box. The stats for a single game charting whenever a player was dishonest would be off the scale though. For any fans to claim any of their players wouldn’t have taken advantage of the goalkeeper’s stupidity is kidding themselves. Nani no doubt felt aggrieved after not getting a decision on the shirt pull, so will have happily taken advantage of Gomes’ mistake, just like any other player in the league would have done.
5. Any set of fans would be livid if a goal like that went against their team, United included, but that’s how football works. When a decision goes against you, you’re wild, when a decision goes in your favour, you’re over the moon (or hysterically laughing, as many of us were on Saturday). Spurs fans do need to get over themselves though. Yes, we get it, the Mendes goal 6 years ago was ridiculous. Everyone could see it was miles over the line without even needing a replay. But that’s when it has to stop. To bleat on about Michael Carrick penalty two years ago is pathetic. United scored a further FOUR GOALS that day and played against 11 men for 90 minutes when we should have played against 10 men for 84 minutes. That’s football. But the paranoia and victim playing is far too scouse for my liking. Minutes silence and black armbands all round.
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Spot on!!
I love the way utd fans are hiding behind the law makers when suits you. What did you agree when ref failed to send off neville last week as well?
The fact is that it was a terrible decision and any decent referee would have disallowed it.
Good point by Poll about the handball. Clattenburg didn’t have a good view of it all.
But it’s typical of these two to protect one of their own. How about critisizing the linesman that fucked up and caused all this in the first place?
The only terrible decision on Saturday was that Nani wasn’t given a penalty.
And yes, Neville should have seen red at Stoke. We were lucky to get away with it.
First it is clear as day that Nani dived in the box to cheat a penalty out of the ref. Warranting a Yellow
Second he handled the ball in the box. Possible yellow of cinical play
If the ref is granting advantage. How is it advantage if it ends in a goal seconds later.
And why did he over rule the linesman when he was told there was a handball that the ref didnt see
When gomes asked is it a free kick? The ref flaped his hands signaling i dont know
@Steve
Don’t think the ref’s decision to allow the goal made a huge difference to the result of the game. And anyways it was a penalty in the first place!!
And about the red card.. We’ll that’s pure luck he didn get a red card for d tackle!.
The linesman has to give handball. That’s it. The referee missed the handball, and as soon as Nani took advantage of the situation, the linesman should have put his flag up and told the ref it was handball.
The ref didn’t play advantage, he MISSED it.
The linesman was at fault for not putting his flag up immediately Nani sought to take advantage (only doing it when Gomes complained.)
The ref bottled reversing the decision, despite being told that it was handball.
In earlier times, there would be an issue regarding Nani’s complete lack of moral character (even 15 years ago, I can remember great acts of sportsmanship from Di Canio and Robbie Fowler).
People don’t worry too much about that now – and it is Nani’s job to put the ball in back of the net, to be fair. Not sure the whole effort was worth a summersault, though.
So I think Harry has a fair point to make.
Although, in fairness, you were going to beat us anyway. Everyone will have forgotten about it by the time we’ve beaten Inter! COYS!!!
@Steve You are a tool. Most on here were sayin Nev should have been off. Some think he should never have been on to be completely honest. Now go get a life. The only reason we are still talking about it because we talk about United news. If your manager had simply said that it was Gomes fault, this would be dead news. But it just keeps on going. Most United fans are actually rather basking in the sun of the national consensus that United werent at fault for something. It is actually quite rare for, i, the ref on the day, 2) the commentators reviewing the replay, 3) most of the UK press, and 4) and Graham bloody Pool, to all be backing Nani. Move along then, nothing else to see. Off ya go.
Graham Poll also said “My analysis is that Mark Clattenburg was right by the letter of the law, but his decision lacked credibility – and left a scar on this match.”
And, “I fully understood the Spurs protests. Clattenburg did nothing wrong in law but there was a lack of credibility in his decision. I always tried to ensure that things felt right while trying to apply the law correctly.”
Good to know the Manchester branch of Pravda is up and running.
Tottenham hotspur last won at old trafford just after the berlin wall came down. Maybe they should concentrate on that statistic rather than giving it the usual old spurs bollocks.
Hotspur – an impetuous person.
Looks like Gormless Gomez earned his spurs.
No neville was rightly not given a red card though for a bookable offence because his first yellow was not a bookable offence!
Seepy – You’re as blind as Clattenburg. Kaboul pulled Nani’s shirt. Fact.
Why do you say Clattenburg played advantage? The linesman didn’t flag for any offence, so as far as ref was concerned, there was no offence. But regardless, if you had read the article, you would have read what the rules are regarding playing advantage, and Gomes blew that when he picked up the ball then threw it 10 yards away. Try doing the reading before just ranting aimlessly.
Good read scot, though its best we all forget this incident and not pile up lines for the “ultra sesitive” spurs fans as pointed out by the latest studs up comic. Lol!!
@Steve
I don’t think you could generalize. I for one thought it was a ridiculous decision and wouldhave been flabbergasted if it had gone against us. Clattenburg is a knob-simple as.
Then again, it didn’t really affect the game all that much as we deserved to win 2-0, soI really don’t see why the ABU has been crying hoarse about it.
@ssg, Ya mate, youre a tool as well. You lot should have been down to 10 men after 10 minutes and could have lost your full back (for pulling nani down) Gomes, (for tackling nanis legs and completely missing the ball), any of the rest of your team (for hounding the refs). But fine. We would have been well pleased with a 1-0 win. Same as a 2-0 win.
@Shankill Skinhead. Love it when ya start quoting history. Any other gems? Cheers to all
Any decent ref give gives the penalty. Game over either way.
Football supporters of all colours tend to view incidents differently. Was it a penalty? Did so and so tug his shirt? Was it intentional handball?
It makes the world go round. Some decisions go for you and some go against. We, most of us, accept this and get on with it after arguing down the pub.
But if football is to stand any chance at all surely we should ALL want to see justice? Or maybe winning is far more important. I think Nani is an odious individual who is constantly working the ref to gain a decision and to get an opponent booked. However, I don’t blame him for putting the ball into the net on Saturday. His tongue lapping, back flip goal celebration of his wondrous feat may have been a little over the top but still the fault was not his.
And yes, Gomes should have played to the whistle and should not have rolled the ball 10 yards ahead of the handball incident to take the free kick he thought had been awarded.
However, the referee has a duty to make his decisions clear to all players to ensure fair play. This he didn’t do and so a bizarre and distasteful incident spoilt an otherwise great game.
I couldn’t rejoice if my team scored that goal but it’s up to you guys how you feel about it.
@Fletch, good to see the point of article as well as my response to it completely passed you by.
This debate is pointless, there will always be 2 sides of coin.
Also, the thing is we won.. let’s move on.
These people need to remember however that we lost the league title due to the refereeing error that cost us 3 points against Chelsea. We could have won the title.
But we move on.
@ TheRadLegion
Excellent point, this is becoming tedious and boring. The goal was legit, Neville should have seen red vs Stoke although the yellow was a bad call… If we spend endless hours debating ref decisions in every match than 24 hours in a day will not be enough… GET OVER it
Vic – As far as the ref was concerned, he didn’t have a decision to make. The linesman didn’t raise his flag, the ref didn’t think it was a penalty, so he essentially, he hadn’t made a decision. Gomes assumed a decision had been made based on what he saw from Nani, but as we’ve already covered, it’s not down to players to make up their own mind on what they think should happen. No flag, no whistle, nothing to indicate to Gomes that he had a freekick. The linesman is at fault for not flagging, the keeper is at fault for not playing to the whistle.
I wonder, at what stage did Gomez realize that his goal was at risk. Presumably before he tried to save Nani’s attempt. I think it is clear from the footage that Gomez wondered whether or not a free kick had in fact been awarded, and chose to corner the ref. Just as Nani did when he put his hand on the ball.
Neither of the acts of manipulation succeeded.
2 wrongs made a right.
Fucking Yay!
Wait until Spurs have a decision go for them, then we can judge their reaction, should be interesting.
Just to clarify, the ‘GET OVER it’ statement is directed at Spurs fans…..
tottenham did not have one really dangerous chance in the second half.
So why does everybody come out with this ABU-trash?!
They woudln’t have scored and to call Nani a cheat for scoring is absolutely hypocrisy.
Just show me one player who would not score in this situation. Except the yids, cause they would never bend the rules, right Bale?
With out the obvious bias and arrogance (we are not arrogant just better) UNITED fans by enlarge are best at calling a spade a spade. We are usually very good at admitting it when we see a wrong decision given for us, but sadly it seems we are the only ones…. That dippers’ goal vs Sunderland was hailed as genius by so called pundits and the media where as Nani was labelled a cheat with no sporting manners….. Let them all fuck off imo
Costas – Hello mate , are you well? I have to disagree with your comments about Nev at Stoke. The FIRST challenge in my opinion was never a yellow to start with. Such a shame all this shite has overshadowed what was a good United performance.
Interesting to see that we tend to dominate the midfield when the ginger prince IS NOT playing. Dont jump all over me as I LOVE Scholes but his age causes problems in certain games, Saturday would have been one of them. I though particularly second half Fletch and Carrick were superb.
Willie – They have mate only two weeks ago, fat boy huddlestones goal that should have been disallowed but was over ruled.
Enough is enough. FA, get rid og Simon Beck.
get rid of Simon Beck
According to Bale:
“It killed our hopes off of at least getting a point in the game. Can’t really see to much about what happened. It shouldn’t have been given no matter what. There’s many a reason why it shouldn’t. Either, if it’s handball, if he dived, unsportsmanship, but, um…”
Come on, give it up ssg.
King Eric – Forgot about that, but wasn’t that goal within the rules?
Refs agreeing with a United decision
What’s the world coming to
I concur with all the Beck comments
Guys a fucking prick
Further the fucker still hasn’t gone to specsavers
Twat
Anyone saw this? Apparently Maxi Rodriguez is comparable to Romario now:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1325505/Lucas-sees-bit-Romario-Liverpool-hero-Maxi-Rodriguez.html
hurr – now they have players better than messi and as good as romario. What shall we do?!
The referees agree…
Well that’s funny as i’m sure i saw Dermot Gallagher on earlier saying that “if Mark has played advantage then he should have stopped the play when Nani has interfered with the ball…
I Think i would trust the top Ref, Gallagher over Poll and Wiley
Lets curl in the fetal position and cower in fear shall we?
@ssg Think I got the article just fine. I also think I am one of the more level minded on here. We get shafted by refs all the time and we move on. Here we have the ref (the only guy on the park who matters) agreeing with us on this one single point. As you can see, we are only bringing up the numerous other events in the game that he got wrong because you lot keep on going on and on about this one. We can simplify it: There was no flag, there was no whistle, the referees signal was to play on. Gomes didn’t. Nani scores. We win 2-0 instead of 1-0. Bale can say what he wants, its a laugh because he didn’t get 2 sniffs all game. Good luck to you lot in Europe and in the league. Cheers
@ FletchTHEMAN
Who is this bale you speak of? never heard of him, well not at OT any way where our little Raphael kept him at bay all game. What if Spurs had scored from the corner that followed the ball that went out? What then mr bale? twat
Good on Nani, it was a brilliant bit of quick thinking and improvisation. Glad to hear that highly-respected referees such as Mr. Poll and Mr. Wiley have spelled out the facts as clearly as possible for the ABU simpletons to get their heads around.
bcvbcvb – “IF Mark has played advantage…”
That’s the point. He didn’t play advantage. This comment has been made repeatedly, if you’d had the sense to read before commenting.
OK bale may be a good player but he certainly is no holy man. i can remember the first half when we all saw the ball cross the damn line for a goal kick but Mr will-never-be-better-than-giggs carried on despite knowing fully well and almost scored.
and that goal was absolutely legitimate. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!! Mr redknapp is saying that Nani handled the ball. NO PROBLEM i agree but what he is failing to tell you is the reason why he handled the ball. he handled the ball because airhead kaboul had just tugged his shirt and brought him down and Nani thinking it was a penalty grabbed the ball ( like ANY player in ANY club on ANY planet ( including the new one they just found)would do). and fine they claim that a freekick was given. if a freekick was given why did Gomes roll the ball more than ten yards upfield with his HANDS rather put it down and play the freekick on the SPOT of the foul. That is also not following the laws of the game and is also cheating but steve and harry redknapp did not spot that. SMART GOAL GREAT GOAL!! how i wish it was against city it would have been fun to watch shitty fans crying like babies. GREAT JOB NANI!!!
@King Eric
Hey man. I am good, thanks. Hope you are well.
I don’t remember Nev’s first yellow to be honest. It might have been harsh. But once you move past that, he should have been booked for the other tackle. Maybe the ref was trying to right a wrong, but I am not a fan of doing it with another mistake. But moving beyond that, someone mentioned Beck, the linesman. How can the guy who played Drogba onside at OT still have a job at this level? It’s obvious he didn’t get any better.
Great performances by Park and Carrick. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our most solid defensive display of the season came after Carrick’s best game of the season. I hope he is back for good mate.
The moment Prattenburg goes over to the linesman and he says he saw the cheat Nani scoop the ball then it should have been a free kick. End off. Why go over to your linesman if you are 100% sure of your decision. It was clear cut just like Lampards goal in the Worldcup. Its like saying lets have goal line technology but then when a goal has been agreed , the referee says no I wont give it cause I dont know what I am doing…Trust me we have had some dodgy decisions go our way but I am usually on the Spurs forum and most fans usually agree we had got lucky.. If he had been 100% sure and not gone I would have accepted the decision definitely.. But he went over , ushered the obedient Spurs players away and let his Ref Union rep Ferdinand put his ugly oar in there…Cant you see why we are angry..Its just not the norm. I am not bothered what went on with Bale before or anyone else , just want to discuss this situation. Am sick of People trying to justify the goal by what happened with Bale or Mendes a few years back. You deserved to win and you are a better side than us that is is no doubt but its sad when you start trying to justify something that is so obvious with really crass arguments.
@FletchTHEMAN, everyone is shafted by refs and we can all debate those decisions: was a player offside; was it a dive or a penalty. All supporters see the decision from the perspective of what helps their team. We are all biased.
I don’t want to get into whether we’d have equalized or not. It’s pointless because no one knows. Did Everton look like equalizing against you? No, But they did. Hell, another 20 seconds, they may have won. No one knows. But to say the score or result absolutely would have stayed the same without the contentious incident just isn’t correct. We’ve all seen enough football to know things can change in a blink.
Anyway, the point I’ve been on about is there is a difference between a call not going your way and the officials creating a confused situation through lack of communication and control. Take L’Pool scoring off confusion on placement of the opposition’s freekick a few weeks ago. There is blame for the players of course, but the ref was not clear about the situation, and the Scousers steal in to score. A good goal under the laws, but it had a smell about it. Or the goal Arse conceded last year in the CL (Porto?) when the keeper allowed the ball to be taken from him for a quick kick and score. While I thought it was funny because it happened to the Arse, I still thought it was the result of poor control from the officials and not communicating the situation to the players.
Just my opinion, but the ref is there to make decisions and then communicate those decisions. Clattenburg fell down in this, resulting in a goal for you. But goals like that have a smell about them, and I’m sure you’d agree if the tables were turned.
Anyway, it’s done. Best of Luck against the Turks.
The Berties have a not biased look at the whole situation at all!
http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=195494&sid=b9ada199039b5f49758bfa0b691124e3
@ssg Agree, Clattenberg could have done better. Is that all we are arguing about?
@IrishRed My g*d mate, you should put a health warning on that link! What a depressing place. Think I will stay away in future. Be nice if they tried to point out what it all had to do with them.
Scott, can we start taking about the Bursaspor game. Hope to see rafael or brown, Macheda and Obertan need more games as well. Evans or Browning should get some minutes as well.
@Scott the red
Mark Clattenberg has said in his report that he played the Advantage…
Surely you must know this by now?
@FletchTHEMAN, that point I made about officiating has been my issue since the game ended.
I posted here originally because the blogger printed Poll’s comments that blame should to Gomes, but he pruned out the bits where Poll indicates the ref didn’t do so well. It struck me as less than honest.
Anyway, we both have other fish to fry.
ESPN is reporting an interview with Ferguson stating stating that Rooney’s U-turn came only after fans made personal threats outside his home. Bit sad that. Can see him warming the bench for the rest of the season if that is true. Will it never go away?
bcvbcvb – Do you have a link to that? I haven’t seen that at all.
Again though, I refer you to the article, and to Alan Wiley’s comments. Look at what he says about the rules regarding an advantage being played. Gomes fucked up so move on now.
Yes Gomes did not help the situation, but the fact remains that Twatenberg (clever eh) did not see the handball, and then has tried to cover his arse by saying he saw it and played Advantage, this was Announced on SSN that He had Stated he played advantage.
But As Gallagher said, there was no advantage, and no time or play had passed, so he should have bought it back and given the free-kick (but he would’ve had to have seen it to do this
)
bcvbcvb – “I’m sure that Mark must have thought at that stage, at 1-0 to Manchester United and Spurs wanting to keep the game going and Gomes had the ball in his hands, that he wanted to keep the game moving. The situation is that if you’re going to think about bringing it back, for instance if a player is fouled but then he loses his footing and he still can’t keep control of the ball, then you can bring it back. In that situation there, Gomes has actually got the ball in his hands and has actually still got possession of the ball. What he then does after that is nothing to do with the referee. If he chose to throw the ball on the ground, that was his choice. He didn’t throw it there because he lost control of it, so therefore in those circumstances you’re probably giving the goalkeeper two bites of the cherry.”
You’ve got to ask why a Man U fan would bother writing this article? The only explanation is that it is just another huge embarassment precipitated by our favourite ref! Get over it!
you haven’t quoted all Graham Poll’s comments. He also said that after talking to the linesman he would have disallowed the Goal – real his full article before using selective quotes.
All worth it tho just to hear Talkspork radio go into meltdown today! With no regard for the rules of the game, presenter after presenter condem United & Nani. Pathetic station! Good laugh tho!
nice to see that Nani’s great sportsmanship and sense of fair play is emulated not only by his manager and honoray fourth official Rio( what drug test) Ferdinand but by so mmany posters. Blimey, United fans are despised by other fans almost as much as United fans despise the Glazers. United and Glazers- a match made in heaven. Roll on the brokers men.
Sportsmanship? Did he have to give back the ball to a Spurs player due to some kind of fair play? The ball was there to be won. Gomes fucked up. Get over it.
Maybe if Nani went with a 2 footed challenge on a Spurs player like Palacios tried to do with Ronaldo, you would appreciate his sportsmanship a lot more.
Jesus, Spurs fans. Give it up and shut the fuck up. You’ve all been watching too much MOTD and taking it as Gospel.
When you find your selves at the top, season after season, when the Media get a bit sick of you winning everything, you’ll start to realise that facts are often overlooked (see Kaboul, Shirt tug and penalty). The word ‘ABU’ didn’t start popping up on United forums like this one as a result of paranoia ffs.
Nani done what any other player would have done, stop crying you bunch of women.
IF only Megan Fox would not have married her longtime boyfriend….I could have had a chance with her….
Moral of the story: Get Over it
@Scott the Red
Tonight’s match at Blackpool proved your point 5 fully, when a West Brom player was send of for a similar challenge!!!!!
Rather than blaming referee’s for every defeat at OT deluded Spurs fans should look at their own players!!
this is to all spurs fans and to the rest of the world. if you were in that position after having gotten confirmation from the ref to play on. would you put the ball in the net? if your answer is yes then you have no right and no credibility to argue this point. if your answer is no then you can continue.
Why do people say the linesman gave the ref a getout? He didnt flag for the handball at first so then you have to ask, at what point does an incident become too long ago to bring play back to?
For fucks sake.
If Nani had simply picked the ball up and put it on the penalty spot after being fouled, without a whistle being blown or the linesman flagging, what would Spurs fans be saying?
Gomez tried to take the law into his own hands, there had been no whistle, the flag was down and the ref was in no way indicating a free kick, yet despite all this evidence, Gomez still thought “I’ve seen the handball, therefore it is a free kick so I’ll throw the ball down, regardless of what the actual oficials are doing, because it’s up to me whether we get free kicks or not.”
Why didn’t Gomez put the ball on the penalty spot? He had seen the push on Nani ( regardless of how easy Nani went down, he was fouled, it was a penalty) so if he thinks decisions are up to him, why didn’t he do the correct one?
The only one at fault is Gomez, end of story.
Just listened to Patrick Barclay’s take, I absolutely hate him and Tony Cascarino, Guardian’s podcast is about a million miles better
Wow, finally United get a favorable decision, refs are interviewed the day after, and they agree with it. Shocker. Anyone know what Dermot Gallagher’s opinion is?
Gomez reminded me of Barthez… Forgot which game but Barthez put up his hand and stood lividly claiming that the attacking player was offside but the ref was definitely not fooled.
Sportsmanship is getting over-rated. For example, when your team mate is down injured, it is OK to play on but once your opponent gets hold of the ball, then they are obliged to put it out of play? Football is a game you try to win and players will try to gain whatever advantage they can get (shirt-puling, diving). But to say Nani was being unsportsmanlike for scoring that goal is plainly stupid. Nani has every right to play the ball. I think even Paul Scholes was shouting at him that the ball was still in play. The ref don’t need to cater to Spurs just because Gomez was being too clever with himself. Maybe the ref should have disallowed West Brom’s goal since normally, VDS would have caught the ball without problems. It’s probably unsportsmanlike for the West Brom players to take advantage of such silly mistakes.
STR, site was down or what?
@Steve: “I love the way utd fans are hiding behind the law makers when suits you.” Personally speaking, as a United fan, I think the refereeing was absolutely farcical and would be absolutely gutted if we had conceded a goal in the same circumstances.
Does this mean I think Nani is a cheat? Of course not. He was an opportunist and on Saturday it paid off. On another day he could have been yellow carded for scoring that goal such is the almost random nature of refereeing decisions that you see every weekend in the Premiership.
I also feel that most of the statements we’ve seen from referees show them closing ranks to try and cover up what is really another display of questionable competence.
Having said all of that, I’m delighted with the 3 points!
This site and his moderator is a FUCKING Joke..There you go.I evenatuuly swore..I posted sensible non swearing comments on here and you cant even have the balls to publish it..Just like the cheating , scums you lot, supportesrs,players are..Stick your fucking cheating club..We all hate you more now anyway,..Tossers!!!!
Sean – Fuck you too mate.
uuuh..I have to swear to get my mesaages posted..wow..What a site….!!!
OooHH Seany boy’s getting tough. Piss off son.
Simmo – Yeah best bit of talksport last night was callers saying they felt for Arry, even gooners! Saying he is the most HONEST man out there! Yeah right. Dodgy second hand arthur daley, tapping up cunt.
Ok. Had my say..I will piss off..Cheers all…
Sean, swearing over the internet won’t make you grow a dick. Sorry that you were born that way. It happens…
@Sean – you penis, your other message on this topic is here, stop getting in such a hissy fit over a website of all things.
@Sean
You should sue the doctor.
Clearly they took the wrong piece at your circumcision.
Get lost Knobless!
Boo Hoo Hooo!
MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAANnnnn!