Rio Ferdinand has talked about how well he believes this current squad have done this season after losing out on the title on goal difference.
“It’s a cruel way to have lost it,” he said. “But you have to congratulate the other team. Any team that wins it obviously deserves it and they have played well throughout the season. It’s now about us dusting ourselves down and winning the title back next season. This year we’ve had to use our squad to the maximum and that bodes well for the future. That’s one positive we can take from this. I don’t think any other team could have coped the way we have.”
Rio also reflected on how he found out that they hadn’t won the title.
“I got the word during the game that City had scored to make it 2-2,” Rio said. “Then, after our game finished, it went flat and silent, with everyone waiting. The cheers from the home supporters let us know City had scored and the title had gone to them. It’s disappointing.”
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Its all Phil Jones’s fault, we won the league before he joined, then we lost it as soon he started to play.
Giggs is also to blame because he is old.
Welbeck is also to blame because he only scored a little bit and at 20 should be doing better.
Mike Phelan is to take full blame on behalf of management, he should have done better.
We would have won the league if Sneijder was fit for at least half the season.
Park is crap, lets buy Messi now that Guardiola is gone.
Scholes should retire and Pogba should play every game.
We lost the league because Feggie was in Germany watching Kagawa instead of preparing to win the league and helping out Mark Hughes by loaning him Rio and Vidic.
I guess my prayers the whole game was unanswered, it almost did… But looking at the bright side, all the players will learn from this and we will come back stronger, we really pushed them all the way…fuck it come on United, roll on next season
Now we are in the most depressing time of the year, 3 months no football. Dont count euro and olympics
No team (especially one with United’s resources) should have to cope with so many injuries. This season was basically a 10 month injury crisis ffs. I want to believe that things will be different next season, but we already have a headstart for that one too with Smalling and Evans going under the knife.
Mancini are you listening,
You’d better keep our trophy glistening
Coz we’ll be back in may,
To take it away
Walking in a Fergie wonderland!!!
Cheer up lads. Stronger next season , ran it too the wire and weight of expectation on our noisy neighbours.
A moment of joy but never the joy if being red.
i really hope what is written in the daily mail today is true, fergie should really raid borusia dormund players. this team is magnificent and to be able to get both kagawa and lewadonski would be a dream.
Morning all
Well its the morning after, still thinking back at what might have been….Just gotta love this club, win or lose they always run our hearts close to the end! I suppose it would have been easier to take had city won comfortably yesterday but I would not replace the emotions I went through during the last few minutes with anything…
Never been more proud of being a RED..
UNITED UNITED UNITED
It is true.. Had city had as many injuries its quite frankly laughable to suggest that they would of been so close to us
As Costas said in the other thread, the overall scoreline for 11-12 is 82-36 in our favor we’ve had more than double the amount of injuries.
Thats not even counting the longer duration of the average injury we had.
Also while we lost Vida Fletch TC Ando Nani Young Valencia Rio for extended periods, their injury list had the likes of Hargo(!) and Savic and whatnot!!
IT’S ALL WAYNE ROONEY’S FAULT.
HE HELD THE CLUB TO RANSOM. HE DECIDED TO SHOW ILL-DISCIPLINE OVER CHRISTMAS AND GO FOR A LATE NIGHT MEAL DESPITE THE REQUESTS OF THE CLUB FOR PLAYING STAFF TO INSIST ON NO LATE NIGHTS.
THE CUNT GET’S SUSPENDED AND DROPPED FOR THE GAME AGAINST BLACKBURN WHICH WE END UP LOSING, A GAME WE WOULD NOT HAVE LOST HAD HE PLAYED.
BLAME THAT CUNT, HE EARNS £250K A WEEK AND PRICKFACE SHOULD TAKE ALL THE BLAME
Perhpas I’m getting grumpy in my old age but I find it hard to congratulate a club that is bankrolled. It was the same when Chelsea won. If Spurs, Arsenal or Newcastle had won I’d be saying “well done”. In fact, I really hope Bayern beat Chelsea just so Spurs keep their CL spot. The only reason Spurs are not regularly competing in the Champions League is beacause City and Chelsea are bankrolled.
Does anyone remember how much everyone went on about how a big loss Kompany was for Citeh in Jan n Feb, not one single person in the media has mentioned that we’ve been without Vidic for 6 months. If Kompany was out for 6 months, we’d have sailed to the league title, but thats ABU’s for you.
UNITED TIL I DIE!!!!!
This pain will only make us hungrier.
Well done boys for a excellent league season, in other circumstances we’d have won the league.
ak47… Yet another leeds fan in disguise!!
United have been pipped at the post before. The club will return with a vengeance . Only between us and them. The rest are window dressing. The rivalry over the coming seasons will be electric . Next time we won it and beat them will be so sweet. Remember, we are a real club not a sideshow .
Could not comment last night was too upset. Worse nights sleep for a very long time just an awful way to lose it. Can’t help it but I keep on asking myself would we be champions if Bolton had won or the QPR players did not know the result?
Reckon there will be a huge clearance this summer with an empahsis in improving the first XI; maybe Fergie will now invest in a central midfielder.
Gutted, just gutted.
Cedars, Mail!
I do agree with Costas. No team should ever have to cope with so many injuries and we’ve had to do it for many years on the trot. That just makes me more confused.
After being pushed by Costas, I have been wondering just what the reason for that is. Are we just buying more injury-ridden players? Or is our medical team truly inefficient? And I don’t know where the answer lies.
Part of me tells that we’ve been unfortunate in some really critical cases – See Vidic and Fletcher. These are two players with outstanding fitness records who’ve just had life hit them hard. One will be back whereas the other faces a serious crisis. My heart tells me he’ll be back fighting fit but my head tells me otherwise.
Part of me tells that we’ve been given certain injury-ridden players as well. The twins are a perfect example of this. Their enthusiasm has led to quite a few injuries that could’ve easily been avoided. It looks like Cleverley could be another one added to the list, though his injury was initially due to a thug named Kevin Davies. He hasn’t looked like he has gotten completely fit as well. I hope that he’ll be back fully with a full pre-season with him. Anderson is another injury-prone player. But his general attitude sucks and it looks as though he doesn’t have it right up there which is a problem.
But what leads me to believe Costas’ theory is when fully fit players who go out with minor niggles take a month or longer to come back to full fitness. When somebody like Nani, Jones, Young, Carrick or Rooney goes out, it does take an eternity to figure out what is wrong with them and fix it correspondingly. This has been a pain the arse for a long time.
Although part of me still cannot believe Sir Alex will have a sub-par medical team with him when his overall staff is brilliant, I cannot simply say that we’re unfortunate with injuries when it seems to happen season after season.
Might as well have sold out to Murdoch years ago,at least we would have no debt and proper funding. Instead we’ve got the American rapists fuckin us and stealing the clubs money.
Next season, before any players are brought and sold,
Need a very strong look at our Scouting and medical teams.
morning rom! been busy working my fucking ass off over the last weeks hardly anytime to post!
Well the fucking bitters finally bought themselves a premier league title i dont have it in me to say well done mainly because of my disdain to towards that cretin Summerbee what a fucking prick fucking spongebob square pants looking Cunt hate that prick cranky stuck up bitter twat. Liam Gallagher is another reason CUNT! Why doesnt he cut that pissy faggotty haircut cunt. shit fucking music shit act and why the fucking does the hard as pants twat walk around like he has a fucking shovel shoved up his hole? wanker! what was with that female scarf around his neck? might explain why the prick has an Ugly womens face. fucking hate that shark boy cunt Nasereri “i made the right decision” eh being paid double what you were on had nothing to do with it you fucking ugly teethy frolicking fucking wanker your a ponce and glad we didnt get you last summer dive into the fucking sea with Mike Spongebob Summerbee you fucking ghosty sharky faced cock!
Joey Barton you gay faced poof now dont get me wrong im glad you got stuck into the troll from the hole and with Spikey Blockhead Tearo but you are mentally fucking slow did that fucking Quiff of a thing you call a barnet get lodged in your brain? fuck off back to boardwalk empire you dispicable human worsting you can Join John the cunt and luis the racist in sperm that rolled down yer mothers leg bracket! FUCK OFF CITY FUCK OFF CITY FUCK OFF CITY, Keep our trophy warm we will be back to collect it soon. CUNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
plz we want de title back for next season buy some good n quality plyrs for next season to be a champion not only for epl for europe oso plz plz plz
the only silver lining in this cloud is that we have to put our hands in our pocket. welbeck and rooney have been great upfront, valencia young and nani have done well on the flanks, te defence has had ups and downs with injuries etc but the centre of the park has to be changed. we cant expect scholes to play that many games next year and carrick needs to be a back up for someone. every ball he gets goes square as an easy option, we need investment and need it now. fergie says there is no value in the market, that is always going to be the case now with the money over at middle eastlands. Citeh are now becoming the most hated team in the country and maybe this will make every team play like its a cup final like they do against us. it’s a hard blow to take this morning but we keep the red flag flying high! Get that pen filled with ink David Gill and get some players signed.
There will be no major clearance perhaps of fringe players to bring in better squad players but not a revolution.
With uncertainty clouding the futures of Fletcher and Anderson, with retirement looming again for Scholes and Giggs, Park playing a bit part and Clevs only managing 15 appearances, SAF should be taking no risks with his midfield again.
It is time for 2 midfield signing, one central and attacking to take the load off Rooney. A left back would be preferable to cover for Paddy. We don’t need more Strikers, we can rely on Owen,Berba, Keane or Macheda to be the 4th striker.
We could also move for Clyne, so watch out for that story.
However, queue the negativity…..If United do not make Midfield signings this summer, it will be a sign that United are prepared to roll over to the force of Man City. It is this summer we await a reaction to show our intent, our ambition,we have to strengthen.
There are no more excuses to ignore the obvious issues, we can spend £20m and still bring in two top notch midfielders, other teams do it, so should we. This is United and Ferguson’s biggest task now, to reclaim the title and beat City.
If we don’t strengthen, we’ll head the road that greats like Arsenal,Liverpool etc have taken.
It may sound like I want a a rainfall of Transfers, but I am calling for a reaction to signal our intent for next season, who doesn’t ? City grow stronger, they will buy more, they will look to build on this Title, if we don’t pour salt on their seeds Now, they will over-power us and the dreaded “power-shift” will become a reality.
The Old Era of 06-11 has ended, that cycle is gone and diminished, its time to Evolve to the modern game.
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If
But
Yep.
It’s over new season begins soon – watch this space!
Morning reds around the world,
Now i know why Bayern fans felt so sick in 99
Come on reds,
this game is a great leveler..
We have tremendous faith in the lads, we will rise again!!
this time with swagger, vengeance, style and United’s fighting spirit and killing instinct..
Get in!!
Really felt bad for these guys. Sometimes they’ve been stretched to the limit. Rio himself played more games than some younger ones. It is therefore non-negotiable that the squad requires quality replenishment in the summer. Anything short of that will be asking for too much from the lads. As many as could miss the Euros and the olympics should do so and take a long and due break and come back in august, gun blazing.
as expected,
a United defeat and i m on leave from office the immediate day..
that has been my pattern this season,
fuck job, i would quit anything for my beloved club..
Sir Alex Ferguson will remember last night forever, that’s what drives him, the club, the players and the fans..
Manchester United has a duty to fans and to the game..
the red army will come roaring again..
Treble next season!!
In football, has it ever happened that a team in transition has fought till the last second to lose it o0n GD, full with injuries and little bit complacency,?
Never,
it will never happen because there is only one Manchester United!!
Papii
Owen and Berba in my opinion should leave now – Owen has been horrifically injured over the years and cannot contribute nothing more and Berba – well I just think wrong signing wrong time for United – he’s been such a professional though – that’s what you call a man – but I would like him to bloody play football – you know you are privileged when a player feels he’s earning money he doesn’t deserve. He has personified dignity and all that is now missing in football – if he was five years younger we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Macheda – I don’t know about – Keane will def. be off for a season long loan as SAF mentioned a month ago.
It’s safe to say that we do need a striker but an equal class to Rooney to take the load off him. One world class midfielder will do – two would be great but it depends what of Anderson.
As for the left back well we have Fryers and he looks perfectly capable to do the job – all about staying.
I believe Pogba is gone – and I really don’t care about him any more – how long does it take to say yes to United?
Everything else is in place – I hope Vidic will be back but more importantly Fletch – SAF knows the dilemma so I hope we sort all this transfer shit out soon and not be chasing players when we really need to be gelling and going for it as a team.
This is what Lewandowski agent had to say,
‘The offer from Dortmund is not enough and I can confirm there is interest from Manchester United.’
I have no idea how the player might be,
but one thing is for sure,
The media cunts have started to write our obituary..
They say there is no stopping the idiot, how true..
come on u ABU cunts, give some some respect you bastards..
Sandeep
I wrote in 2010 sometime that United would win the treble in 12/13
If that happens in the table cloth shirt the better
Sandeep
I would encourage the ABU cunts to be more ruthless and scornful
After all they will never learn and we never learn either listening to them
Sponge it as I say sponge it – fell it keep it.
Feel it keep it
Typos already started early in the morning
Where is Professor Buch boy from scouse land to sort out my English?
Morning MG,
I think Fletch will not be available this season, and we can’t rely on IFs and BUTs this season IMHO..
I feel for the lad, that scene of him sitting alone in the Swansea game makes me feel sick..
Hope he will get well soon, football or not.
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Coming to Vidic,
its confirmed he is not on the tour,
so we can expect him to be featuring from September? Until then i hope we will have Rio, Evans, Smalling, Jonesy back..
Look back at the season, how fucking big time we have missed Vida and Fletch?
gone is gone,
time to rebuild and ingrain that spirit, hope this doesnt affect the young lads,
i think it wont, they are strong and they will fuck these cunts again!!
BELIEVE
Absolute classic Fergie.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18050465
GG
@Cedars – agree 100%
Red until the world ends
To lose on goal difference is a blow BUT how good is that really?? Shitty spend millions upon millions and can only win on goal difference, with hardly any injuries all year. We were injury plagued all season
I just hope next year the same doesn’t happen, so many bad long term injuries – is it a training issue ???
Personally I want Neymar – He’s brilliant for United in football manager
this talk about lewwandoski (sp?) just to side track the media or do you reckon they are actually intrested. wth welbeck and chicharito already in the pecking order had to see where the new lad will come in (if he is signed) . top scorer for german champions i doubt he would want to become 4th choice at united. maybe its to take the talk of kagawa away from the media. and yes i know it was the lads agent who said it but surely fergie and co have contacts who can tell people to drop a sneaky line in an interview in or 2.
MG,
hope your words come true mate
had a 10 hour sleep, feeling okay now, hope new bloggers here dont confuse me for plastic by reading this post
and get hold off the table cloth, will ya?
Catch u in an hour mate..
Sandeep
Morning
Well I hope Fletch comes back – in the circumstances that Fletch faces his recovery should be progressing for a start some time later on this year – I’ve been getting all the details from Doctor G
It’s true though that we can’t rely upon that scenario because of inevitable set backs which do occur – If Fletch doesn’t come back this year it will be difficult for him to be playing full time roller coaster ride football – and that for me is hard to digest – more so than losing a title.
Titles can be won again, but losing players like Fletch is hard to comprehend.
I do think the younger players will be all the more better for it – failure is hard to accept but the point about it is that at a young age you can adapt to failure and use it to motivate – I think we will see a United like this.
Talking about missing people we missed TC big time – his impact until he got injured at Bolton was phenomenal.
All ifs and buts though – today is the day after – today we have to plot to win our title back from them lot.
Get off the table cloth?
I haven’t even been on it yet!
Catch you later Sandeep!
I agree with Ian.
I too, find it hard to congratulate a club that is pumped to the gills on financial steroids.
I feel the same about City as Chelsea.
Compared to United, Liverpool or Arsenal, In terms of their support and history, they are both basically mid-sized clubs that have been pumped up weigh beyond their support.
Whereas United were getting average crowds of above 55,000 when we were in the second division.
Newcastle are the same, despite their lack of success, they have always had a huge following.
And Wenger has done an admirable job working withing strict financial constraints at Arsenal. And played some amazing football too.
But City?
Watching them receive half a billion or more pumped into them whilst a similar amount has been drained from us by the parasite Glazer family makes this especially hard to take.
It has been an unfair fight.
Like watching a genuine Heavyweight Champion of the World having to defend his title with two arms tied behind his back whilst his opponent is pumped up on illegal substances and allowed to bite and kick.
Yet we still managed to take them the distance.
Still, the more miserable we feel then the happier the City fans will feel, so chins up lads, bring on next season and our players will be more fired up than ever.
Hopefully 2 or 3 genuine top class players will be signed up soon who can make a big impact whilst our younger generation will be even better and more desperate and determined than ever.
MG – for me like I have said, anderson park owen macheda and berbatov would be my picks to be off, heck I would throw fletcher in there to be honest. Because united need a total rebuild of the midfield. The midfield is at the end of the road, for me united need 2 CM players, and in the next 2 to 3 years another one is needed. If fletcher returns, it is great, but for me 2 midfielders is required to not only add new meet on the bones, but add much needed quality to the engine room that has hit it’s last beat, bringing scholes back sealed the fate of the midfield
Inzhagi says good bye to the game with tears..
Here is the video of his last goal and breaking down after it..
http://www.soccerclips.net/videos/milan-2-1-novara-inzaghi
I bet city fans are still laughing at us
Yeah don’t celebrate a gifted win from us
Won’t happen all the time – like a blue moon moment that was this year – us having a mental breakdown
I think United need Kebab therapy to overcome this – very psychologically proven to overcome failure
Haiku – if we do not see top class signing’s made in the summer, no question about it, the glazers have no intention of funding the club’s need to sign top class players. With fletcher anderson and cleverly’s injury prone level’s, we are down to 3 ageing midfielders in carrick scholes and giggs, with the combine age total of 107 years old between the 3 players. That is an old area of the side, for me over 100 million is needed, on players and that include’s a striker not just 2 midfielders. Because if united go into the season, having signed a cheap defender, a cheap midfielder that does not solve the deep running issue of the squad, and let go of the likes of berbatov without replacing him, the club is been run like a midtable club, expected to compete and possibly win the league, with this ageing midfield
Reposting my thoughts on the previous thread (StR as always sneaked his new thread in when I was furiously typing)…not because they are great or anything, just wanted to share. Also, because I think it’s not right for us to withold our congratulations to them because:
1. It doesn’t matter if they are bankrolled with drug money, we need to be able to beat every bastard that comes our way, even if it’s Godzilla himself
2. Their players and staff still worked very, very hard for it
3. It’s a sport, it’s football, and at the end of the day what makes it human is that we walk up to our opponents, shake hands and say, “Well done, mate. It was good fun”. After all, unlike Luis Suarez, we still shake hands.
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“…Personally speaking, I was physically sick for a few hours, and then the defence mechanism kicked in and I said to myself, “What the fuck. Get a grip – this is sports. It’s meant to break your heart at some time or the other.”
Already feeling much better in the morning (though it is in times like this that I thank God I don’t stay in Manchester). Many thanks to posters on here for demonstrating a healthy dose of maturity, and particularly to MG for trying to lift our collective spirit.
I’ll say this – it is what it is. We could go on and on about what ifs – Vidic’s injury, Fletch’s illness, Fergie’s tactics, Evans’s redcard, Rooney’s nightout before the Blackburn game, Wigan/Everton, non-penalty against the barcodes, right up to Joey Barton. All of that is ifs and buts. Pointless. As Fergie said 2 years back, we could go on and torture ourselves like that, but we’re better than that. “What ifs” are not for us. “What is” is better and “What will be” is for us to shape.
The table does not lie. The table says that we were second best. By the narrowest of margins ever. So to Manchester City, I’ll say, “Well done. Congratulations, it’s been great fun competing.” No shame in that – after all, we are spotsmen. So accept it we must. If there are jibes coming my way (and you won’t believe – I couldn’t, how much shit we are getting here in India from Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool supporters), I’ll smile, shrug my shoulders and say, “We tried hard – not to be”. Suck it in. Use your anger constructively. Internalize it, stoke the fires gently for later use, don’t let the energy dissipate in trying to answer pointless taunts. Draw a line under it – no ifs and buts, and look ahead.
Being a part of the Manchester United community demands this from us – we take it on the chin, hold our heads high, be gracious to our opponents, and treat adversity the only way we ever should – as a challenge. Because THAT is who we are.
Believe.”
FITB
I wouldn’t throw Fletch out but I do concur that the midfield needs it’s major surgery – and really we can’t wait for it either.
Bringing Scholes back was a short term fix we needed – can’t deny that – but again I agree that we shouldn’t be relying upon him from the word go – that is wholly unfair on club and player given his age.
I can’t deny that as a fan. I want him to stay on in a capacity that he is rotated and needed where he can change a game without having to be overplayed or relied upon fully.
Now listen Jeet
Cheers mate
I do try my best
it can only be a negative sign if an agent says a club is interested in his client, agents keep mum. more likely trying to hike the price with the tom sawyer effect.
Or well woke up this morning feeling blessed because i’m a MANCHESTER UNITED fan, just get this feeling GOD is 2:-) lads weve been told all season how poor this ‘united’ side is REALLY? pushed city probably city’s greatest team to the wire, since 2006 they’ve spent £531,670,000 thats more than what weve spent since the inception of the premier league. injuries have been a factor also you only have to look at city minus kompany, they looked at times exposed, evans has been exceptional but at various times weve missed vida leadership, fletcher also. ONE LOVE UNITED
It could be worse
We could have finished 8th with 52 points and talk about our history and nothing else
Or we could have finished 14th in the division below and talk about the title we won before some other team dominated it ever since and lost out yesterday through their own fault.
Wait
MG – maybe I was harsh on fletcher, but I am sick and tired of the club carrying injury prone players, and many saying they will be back, and after 3 season’s we wait on players to regain fitness like hargreaces, and at the same time it is costing the club trophy’s like the premiership. I do think anderson needs to go, the guy is not good enough for united anymore. The jury is still out on cleverly, to be honest carrick has not got left, consider his age, and the wear and tear he is getting now. I do think the club have given certain players like anderson, 2 years to long. I have always said this, the barca defeat in 2009, should have been the wake up call the club needed, and went out to rebuild the midfield. But we did not, and the club have left the engine room rot away, and now I do think the midfield has finally run out of blood. In europe I do think the midfield has been given a big lesson, and that was not just the CL, bilbao out classed us
For that to happen, City is doing a CL ’99 which cost Bayern Munich a victory. I thought we were so close to victory, perhaps turning the table into a miraculous win, but unfortunately “luck”, “god” or any X-factors is not on our side. QPR has done what they could with 1 player less. I really admire what they did for us.
Well, I am not sure if we should blame injuries alone for our poor performance. Owen Hargreaves did criticize our medical team, who knows what truth there is? Perhaps it is true, perhaps just another lies. It is for others to interpret. However, poor performance as a team and weak display by individual in the earlier part and last few matches do cost us a lot. We know United has some missing links. In the past, we are having trouble finding a keeper. Now, we have De Gea who has been improving and maturing. But unfortunately, our defence cost us a lot when it matters the most. Our attacking prowess lack the finishing touch when we need them. We lost our CM backbones, creativity and passing until today, we find it difficult to replace. Our evergreen Giggs and Scholes are no longer what they used to be. Their experience might be useful in matches where we have difficulty in penetrating, but their stamina and speed are no longer what they used to be.
Since Glazers debts is almost finish, United should be able to dive into market to get some quality players. If we are able to find what we lack and players are able to improve themselves and perform consistently with little mistake in games, we might be able to restore the glory. I really admire Arsenal able to control their financial, and even get last minute back-ups who have perform quite well for them to be able to maintain their CL spot. 2011/12 has ended with lady luck turning her back against us. Maybe United should no longer depend so much on her and focus into the skill and game control. I suppose 4 players might be needed to cover what we lack and perhaps injuries. No matter what the case is, I pray for United success in the future. Forever United.
Correct me if I am wrong coz I didn’t see the red card incident yesterday. Was Barton targeted because of his short fuse as a way of making sure that they had an advantage over their opponents?
Not meaning to steal Tony Bee’s thunder, but….
I went to the doc because I was getting a lot of pain where my liver should be.
Doc asks, “Do you drink?”
“Yes, but please make it a very small one…”
Of course we’re all disappointed to lose No.20 to Shitty of all people. It’s hope that kills you and for those agonizing minutes I thought we had done enough to get across the line.
C’est la vie (sigh).
There are legitimate things that worry me about this United in transition. It’s not disloyal to air them.
In the past no one like Pogba – whom many put their chips on as a CM successor – would have chosen to leave for another club. What does that say about our youth set up? I know we’re past the era of nurturing home grown talent (Giggs, Beckham etc) to an international one (Da Silva twins, Petrucci etc) so the challenge is different in terms of attracting, developing and promoting talent to the first team. It requires patience which younger players who have their heads turned by agents luring to them over the fence on the promise the grass is greener.
Or how many of United’s first team would get into a world class side? Seriously? SAF always said you need at least 6 players who are the rock of a team. Who have been our 6 consistent and reliable wold class players?
The challenge is real, my friends.
The real test will be in how we all respond as a club and its owners and supporters. I think it’s easy to look to recriminations that are at best unhelpful and at worst lazy born out of righteous anger (e.g. blaming one player!)
We need to be cold eyed and clinical in how we look to meet yet another challenge to our beloved club’s hegemony in world football.
We’ve met challenges before and on the whole responded in spectacular fashion.
Consider Arsenal and the arrival of Wenger. They had little money but Wenger had the eye for picking undervalued players and making a team. United did the same but with the added value of home grown talents within the youth system. But we did extra with a sprinkle of star power in the form key bought players (e.g. Rio, Rooney et al). We saw them off.
Chelski came along but this time it was a different challenge a club swimming in Russian rubles. The club sold its soul to a shady Russian businessman bent on buying instant respect and history with dirty money. Chelski was nothing special without Mourinho who almost acted like the 12th man on the pitch. But we had SAF, the greatest manager in the history of the game. Mourinho won a few battles but he lost the war so to speak with United’s manager’s unquenchable hunger of excellence and success.
And Liverpool? Please. Don’t make me laugh
. They were knocked off their perch a long time ago.
Shitty are at first sight like Chelski but with deeper pockets. Yes, they’ve bought the championship. They deserve some the crap for that but it wasn’t all down to money, they also played well and had that most elusive of things: lady luck. That’s football.
I agree with SAF who said recently that he saw Shitty as the long term threat. To him losing will hurt but it’s all about next year and years after.
Shitty will continue to buy over-priced players – that is a given. But they won’t be doing that every year in and year out. Firstly because of the UEFA fair play rules that will come into effect so they have to balance the books. And secondly – and it’s not too much of a surprise to understand this – that however much Abu Dhabi wants to sink cash into the club to BUY a championship they do want their Shitty club to be financially sustaining at some stage – even Abramovich knew this. It’s just business after all.
This is why it’s the second part to Shitty’s long term strategy which will be the greater challenge. Shitty is investing in a youth set up with increasing money and resources. They will try to do a united by building a youth system around the first team – the very system that has been the DNA to United’s success these past years. Something Arsenal or Chelski have conspicuously failed at.
SAF must know that he’s facing a club that will provide a challenge unlike any other.
I hope as fans we can be clinical in soberly weighing up the real challenge Shitty pose and not indulge in straw men which are easy to knock down because it feels good but far from the truth.
I only hope the Glazers and the rest of management wake up and realize they have to step up to the plate and deliver by supporting SAF in any way he needs.
SAF has always been passionate and that passion has been a fuel to his success. But that success was also built on being coldly calculating and knowing one’s strengths and weaknesses. He knew when to get rid of a player past his hunger sell by date or when to step up a player from the youth set up or when to bring in star power.
We have to trust our manager now. Deep down I think The Knight from Govan will relish it. The Last Stand against the Barbarians at the Gates!
Like SAF, we as fans can never rest on laurels by invoking history and tradition. It’s the past, it’s gone, just like the final whistle on a Saturday.
United is always about striving for the next win or the next championship. To say we should be ‘good enough’ to win next year is never enough. We want to be world class. We want to set the bar as high as it can go. Decline sets in with that mediocre mind set.
The minute we rest on a complacent sentimental mind set then we’re dead……just ask Liverpool.
FITB
Well we can no longer go backwards we have to go forward from here so let’s hope the situation is addressed.
Although I agree we were outplayed at times in Europe, we also made a lot of mistakes – notably in the CL – either GK own goal defensive errors – plus we were left with injuries which as you say and as Costas says why?
I don’t doubt the severity of the need to improve the midfield – I think we have all known that one way or the other – no one here will deny that.
Just hope SAF has a plan as always
Well said Jeet. I support you fully. We did our best and now is not the time to hide but let us all be proud. I know for sure that we will bounce back. Well done to SAF, all our players and staff who saw us through crisis after crisis, and to all the fans who never gave up hope. Its such a big wonderful family that I enjoy being part of very much. Thanks ROM, I love you all guys so much.
No point blaming Joey Barton. I honestly don’t think QPR would have scored with him on the pitch and city would have gone on to win anyway. Last day of the season and his team are fighting for survival so he gets himself sent off then tries by his own admission to get a city player sent off.
A scumbag. Now he’ll be twittering about how sorry he is for days and the injustice of it all. Scumbag.
QPR stayed up but it was no thanks to you Barton you despicable prick. Scumbag.
I’d honestly put him above Terry as the biggest cunt in the EPL.
We lost the league at home to Everton.
I think this have been the weakest united squad since the start of the PL, The quality is just not there in Midfield or upfront,its been getting worse every season, How many world class players do we have? Rooney and VIdic and that is it, Forget about Giggs, Scholes and Rio they do not have the legs to play regularly. Fletcher, Park, Owen, Berba and Anderson should all be cleared out this Summer. We need a right back who is consistantly playing in the position. I think we should sign Baines to replace Evra at left back. We need 2 CMs and i still think need a top striker , This is not end of the transition period but the beginning and I think its going to be 2 or 3 seasons in the wildiness for United
I think that the only proven quality players that we might buy will be left-footed.
Other than that, it is only the fact that Fletcher is uncertain, Ando is infrequently seen and Tunnicliffe is a bit young; that concerns me. Perhaps a quality ball-winner or box-to-boxer will be brought in if available.
Young stars for the future may also arrive.
I don’t mind if we don’t buy any established players, at most we might get 3, probably only one.
We have a tremendous squad, one that I’m very excited about.
A new era dawns today. Our next golden age. Our wonderful future has already begun.
In fact, we are about 2 years ahead of where we were when Chelsea bought their first title.
We will win our title back at the first attempt.
I don’t buy the injury/conspiracy theories. I respect Costas and Balaji and others enormously, but I just don’t buy it. The data I posted at the half-way point of the season showed that this season has been a disaster of exceptional proportions. But the key word is exceptional. As I recall the results of that study, it showed that while we have a worse record than some clubs, our overall record is about average: some clubs have been better, some worse, and we are about smack in the middle. It showed, for example, that over the last 10 years, Arsenal’s injury record has been significantly and consistently the worst. Like all such studies, it had its flaws. But a follow-up study that I did (which factored in games played and other relevant issues) didn’t dramatically change the picture (that second study never appeared on here, for whatever reason).
But no doubt, this season has been a nightmare for injuries.
A team which gets to 89 points and loses on GD. You have to admit that the other team were just a bit better. Can’t help but think there were so many times this season when we should have hammered teams and did not do so! Heck, even in the last 2 games we had enough chances to win the damn thing on goal difference….
However, more than City, I am worried about our long-term quality. Our reliance on Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand is bordering on the extreme. Most of our best teams (sans 2008) have had a solid spine with players in the 25-30 bracket who are very good and have experience. I believe we are just a bit lopsided in that department with either too many over 30 or under 24.
Fingers crossed for fletch and vida next season!
fergie is the boss
Yes I agree.
Our midfield is finally seizing up. The wake up call ‘should’ have been in the first CL Final loss against Barcelona.
Yet we just bumbled along.
I agree that Anderson should now be cut loose. He showed great promise intermittently but is far too often injured (and too often found partying in Brazil!).
Also, Owen, Berba, Macheda should be let go.
Maybe Park too? Although to be fair, he hasn’t had many games to get fit and he has provided great energy and discipline when called upon in the past. If fit, I think he still has a season or two in the tank.
Cleverly started the season in storming fashion but I am now very concerned we could have yet another long term crock on our hands.
Not sure what the Glazers think they are playing at though as the value of the club will only decrease once we start slipping down the English league as well as in Europe.
What good does that do them?
Are they that stupid not to realise they can’t keep relying on Fergie to perform the loaves and fishes routine every season.
This is now getting serious.
We are slowly morphing into Everton!
No wonder David Moyes is being touted as a possible successor.
But, I will remain positive.
Although we lost out by the smallest of margins in the league maybe some real good will come of finishing the season empty handed and being knocked out early from all the cup competitions.
Fergie must now ‘demand’ the Glazers spend.
I agree we do need at least £100m to rebuild our midfield with a world class enforcer, a world class creator, plus a star striker and a world class defender who can play across the back.
The thing being overlooked here is the nature of City’s victory yesterday. I’d have prefered it if they had won 8-0 instead of 3-2, turning it around in the last five minutes.
They did exactly what we had done in 1993. against Sheffield and what epitomised our success for so long: a late and inspiring comeback.
This, of course, works in their favour:
- it took a 44-year-old-weight off the club’s shoulders
- the managment and most of the players won their first title
- the manner of the win will instill a “comeback” mentality in the team whereby they will, whenever they find themselves in a diffucult situation, be able to fall back on this success.
Whatever our sentiments may be on the subject, this could well be a beginning of City’s reign.
Enough of reflections & feeling sorry for ourselves. We are United, we look forward, not backwards. I say challenge accepted! Bring it on!
Morning all
Well that was THE worst nights sleep I’ve EVER had! Just couldn’t get the images of how close we were out of my head. Anyway, I’ve faced about 60 11-16 year olds so far this season giving me pelters about city and what has struck me is, they really don’t know how to handle it, its quite funny. We must take positives from this experience. A) Seasons can’t get any worse really in terms of our derby defeats and the way we lost the title. B) Our younger players have another season under their belts and a taste of failure that they will not want to revisit! C) We will be much more appreciative of our next title (Next year hopefully) I don’t know about you, but I never really celebrated our 19th properly as the CL defeat dulled its gloss. D) I would like to say it will make Sir Alex goout and strengthens the squad with REAL quality, however, we will have to wait and see over the coming months if this will be the case. I certainly hope we will be stronger next season, which gven that we only lost on goal difference with the injuries we’ve had this year, doesn’t bode well for the rest of the league. Listen guys, for all the pain we felt in those agonising minutes yesterday, just think how fucking good we’re going to feel taking it back off them next year and how gutted they will feel handing it back!! Clean slate, lets start again and put right what went wrong last season….CANT FUCKING WAIT!!
Good day, Albert Ross!
All right, lads – this one is funny…
This Saturday night, I smoked an extra large spliff. Went to bed, and found myself unable to sleep in anticipation of Sunday’s football. With nothing less esoteric, or ridiculous to do, I tried putting myself in Fergie’s mind – trying to guess what he must be up to. I kept in consideration everything – his impending retirement in a few years time, the transition to a new, all-powerful United, tactical renessaince, realistic investments, current strengths and weaknesses, and recent announcements like Fabio going on loan, Berba up for sale, etc. And tried to out it all together in “a most logical/likely scenario”. In my heightened state of lucidity, here’s what I came up with:
1. Three year transition plan after which Fergie retires at the end of 2013-14.
2. 3 year transition/transfer purchase budget of 150 mil, to be balanced by player sales of say, 20-30 mil.
3. Last year we spent 50-60 mil of that lot. I expect another 60-70 this year – the biggest chunk, also spurred on by the season’s results and the challenge from shitty.
4. Expect the following purchases – a supporting full back who can play both sides (Clyne?), somebody who is/can be converted to a deep lying midfielder (Gaitan?), a creative attacking midfielder (Kagawa?).
5. I have a feeling that we WILL pull out the stops to get Hazard, or someone like him who can play left wing, AND support striker. Actually support striker is more important. If this does not happen, expect Berba to stay.
6. Expect Jones to be drafted in midfield. Emergency case – right back.
8. If all of this happens, we will see an amazing United squad that can play any formation, against any opposition with fluidity and balance between attack and defence.
9. In the summer of 2013, expect Tunnicliffe to be drafted in and signing of a quality central defender to mark the passage of Rio. Expect Fabio and Rafael to take over the first XI fullback positions for keeps.
I can’t explain how I reached all these conclusions – it’s too complicated and intitive, but maybe I should try and share with United management a little bit of what I’ve been having?
Good day Jeet!
Gaz, 08:55. Hilarious, covering yourself in glory, what an idiot. Hope you don’t have kids you cretin. HAHAHA!
AntiScouser. Well that’s what they said about Chelsea when they won the title 2 years in a row and look where they are now. Sustaining success is never easy and City will very soon find that out.
AntiScouser
Sorry, the alignment of United winning after so many years and city winning after so many is totally different.
Our trajectory began from scratch building a team from whatever SAF could afford and has afforded by building the club up
City have clearly bought it – and again we have really lost it over the last month – to be brutally honest – if United had kept there nerve yesterday was not of any importance.
It became of importance because city scored 2 goals in equal minutes to win the premiership.
Just like the two goals we lost out to Everton in quick succession.
Bitched twice I guess, however I’ll take it.
Further
The Left Bank
Dead? Dead how because that was 1958 – I’m sorry the rant doesn’t make sense – United are not Liverpool and will never be – Manchester United will never appoint Moyes either because he’s just not United material
SAF already knows who’s taking over – it’s a clear toss up now between Mourinho or Guardiola – and as I have been saying for years Guardiola would probably thrive at United where he could build it in his own way bottom up.
The fact is if today Guardiola lost a championship with United he would not be under any pressure to be sacked or to be reminded his position at the club.
That’s where the leeching Glazers have got it right – leave the team be to the manager and management and stay out of it – just control the money side of it – At Barcelona Guardiola at times was being forced to do every job possible – this is simple. Because the management depended on Barca winning to improve the revenue – it’s not a coincidence that SAF knew that Guardiola would end his tenure this year – SAF knew when he said every team has a four year cycle – we have had ours and will have to rebuild accordingly – though I believe FITB we are a little late on the midfield side.
Fair enough the Glazer’s have taken, fair enough they will still take but this club is heading for a day that it will no longer be in debt and by that time the money that it will generate will be beyond anything seen in football
It’s happening right now – yes some of that 500 million gone in debt would have helped us a lot more but we haven’t done too bad if taken into consideration like 10 steps back.
A lot of fans have to begin to look at the bigger picture here – a lot of things have happened and ultimately we should never have bottled it – mentality does not have a price – this United team mentally were strong enough.
The fact is that they weren’t so will just have to learn from it. This is the missing ingredient as much as anything
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QPR screwed us over. The second they knew that Bolton were relegated they stopped playing!
@Balaji
Hi mate. It’s a mix of reasons. Some players get injured too often due to their body structure. On other occasions, the medical team doesn’t know how to get players fit soon enough. I heard that Smalling has to a specialist. For a groin problem! Players like Nani, Ando and Berba have also seen specialists of their own this season. What’s the point of paying a medical stuff if they can’t do their job properly or at all?
And then there’s the preparation the team goes through during pre season. Our players are on the road so often during the summer tour that they don’t put in the hours of work that they should. Pre season training normally should feature heavy training once or twice a day. Not being dragged around the 4 corners of the earth like some kind of circus. And I hear that this summer we will actually tour Africa and Asia. Even better…
Which leads me to my final point.
No other team would have coped as well, there Rio is right.
But and this is also fair in balance, we should never have played like pussy cats against Wigan knowing full well that they would have been up for it
Should never have played like the way we did against Everton – forget goals 3/4 number fucking 2 was just as bad!
And should have gone down blazing against city with a team including Valencia and Young and Welbeck.
Even Rafael! To have I don’t know changed your mind because of three stupid goals that Everton hit against us was for a lot of us a big no no.
Why we ever went in with a team like that against city will also be a mystery of epic proportions.
But it’s all done now so it ends and we move on
Can’t go back
Morning fellow Reds,
Well fuck me i am so glad it’s over. I never want to go through another day like that ever again in my life. Anyway Reds let the blue c**ts enjoy it. They didn’t win the league we fucking gave it to them. If we hadn’t have crumbled against Everton we win the title yeah! They got lucky, we finished up with the same amount of points with the biggest spending team in world club football. We have had fucking horrendous season injury wise but we kep’t up with them all the way. They won the league with 30 seconds to go. Go into work with your bonce held high fellow Reds. We will be back even stronger next season with a pissed off Fergie determind to get our trophy back. Have a great summer everyone.
Onwards and upwards Reds.
Failing everything
Everyone can join in MG United
sr – what’s so funny about not having children?
Do you know what a cretin is?
cretin – a person who is deformed because of congenital thyroid deficiency.
It originates from crétin, meaning human being, as a reminder that, though deformed, cretins were human and not beasts.
It seems your beastly wish was not at all humane.
I hope you do have children. Their old man will tell them to be a city fan.
They’ll say “Bollocks! You’re a cunt!”
Anyone else feel to smash Brian Kidd’s face in? What a c*nt!!!!
Personally I think we are in shit creek.there’s a good chance Vidic will return safely the same can’t be said for Fletcher.as for Anderson jeez We have an Academy/Reserve team that doesn’t produce even Bi Annually, capable midfielders,we appear incapable of finding even competent desperately needed midfielders despite the numbers coming through year on year nationwide.We seem to be unaware the balance of the team is skewed,if big changes don’t come I see us reverting to a cup team as we definately won’t be contesting the league but will be a top geriatric stroke clinic since we seem to be unwilling to get rid of our aged players.However I will wait to see how the close season pans out before I criticise
Old friend
Tell him as it is and nothing else
Education should educate – mind we do have some who don’t believe in such a thing…
Clint – Ha ha. Quality at 8.12 am this morning.
Felt numb for three hours yesterday or so. Gutted. Oh well . Roll on next season!
gaz – Ha. “Mike Spongebob Summerbee” . Quality pal.
Paul – Carrick needs to be back up for nobody. Enough of that square ball nonsense. Carrick imo has been our best player this season by a distance. Instant starter not a back up.
@Parryheid: I am not aware of any top European club that produces biannually from its reserves/academy – are you? Not slagging your point – but I would be curious to know if there are any such examples, or is it a price that all succesful clubs pay to stay at the top or thereabouts?
King Eric
Don’t forget Evans!
Lewandowski looked the fucking business on Saturday. Kagawa looks decent but if he is to sign we need a ball winner alongside him as he doesn’t do much tracking back. Was virtually playing in the hole a la Rooney. Perhaps Fergie may go for Cabaye now after Pardew’s comments the other day.
MG – Hello mate. Oh I agree. Carrick and Evans for me and Tony in patches. De Gea deserves a mention too since Jan he has been top drawer.
Morning brave reds.
Like Gorse Hill Red and mikekelly12, I had the most appalling night’s sleep. Just couldn’t get those 5 minutes out of my head. The stuff that nightmares are made of. And what really hurts, is it’s the stuff that our rivals’ nightmares are usually made of. Pulling it off late with two stoppage time goals? It sickens me to say it, but that was pure United what they did.
A huge summer ahead. Gill and Fergie are really gonna have to nail this transfer market if we’re to compete again next season. City will spend again, although probably not hugely, and will have had a huge boost to their mentality after yesterday. Like it or not, they’re now the team to beat.
I also hope that next season some other teams can step the fuck up and challenge for the title. This season made the PL look like La Liga, with two teams on 89 points and the next one behind on 70. I expect a much better season from Arsenal, and Chelsea too, if they keep hold of RDM.
JP7 – Yes pal. Not too impressed with Kiddo the traitorous bastard.
People not sleeping? Ha. I would have been like that but for my 5 month old son. Hugged him after the game yesterday and realised there are MUCH more important things in life.
Kid – United – Wife In That Order. (Just don’t tell Ruth)!!
Jeet’
We claim to have the very best of the youth signed at Carrington yet they turn out at best very average.Odd that,my point is anything coming out is spasmodic with huge gaps very few and very far between.
King Eric
De Gea would have been player of the year for me – ever since the Blackburn gaffe he’s been absolutely enormous
But I can’t disagree on Carrick and Evans – both have been exceptional – of course I’d like to sound out Rio too – he’s held on well knowing how injury prone he has been
It’s been good but of course we fell short
Next season it is
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King Eric
Your secret is safe with RoM………Now pass on Ruth’s number will ya!!
Enough of this negativity shit.
We have won 12 out of 20 PL titles — that’s 60% of them. We have never finished lower than third in the PL. Our worst stretch was 03/04 through 05/06, when we came third twice and second once. Seriously: read those stats again (which tell only the most recent history of our magnificent club).
Even this season, there have been many positives. DDG is, I believe, going to be a truly great goalkeeper. He is already very, very fucking good. Phil Jones is a monster waiting to explode. Both were new signings this season. Chris Smalling hasn’t been around our club for much longer than them and he continues to impress. Evans had easily his best season — where are the doubters now? Tony V is a beast. Young has his moments (and is consistently a good crosser). Rooney was bloody nearly the PL Golden Boot, Welbeck is a sensation, and the partnership of the two is dynamite.
Despite the worst injury run of any major PL team in at least a decade, despite suffering more than other club from bad referring decisions, and despite facing a challenger who has spent a billion quid and could easily spend another 3 or 4 billion if it pleased them … despite it all, we took it to the last day, won 89 points, and lost the title only in the last two minutes of the entire fucking season. And that was on goal difference too.
There is nothing to be ashamed of here. There is disappointment that our lads let some important points slip, especially in recent weeks. There is frustration at the injuries that meant we were always up against it. There is anger at the refereeing. There is a deep feeling of injustice that a club can be allowed to spend a billion quid on buying a title.
But there is no shame.
We are the club that comes back. The club that rose from the ashes. The club first put England’s name on the map of football in Europe. The club with 300 million fans across the world. The best known and most valuable club that there has ever been in the world, not just in football, but in any sport (a position that, I might add, was earned despite that run of “failures” only a few short years ago). The club that saw off the so-called invincibles of The Arse. The club that withstood the chequebook that bought the rent boys two years of success and saw them off too. In short, the club that everyone else wishes they could be, if only they had one tenth of the tradition and history that we do.
So no, there is no shame. There is pride. And there is an unquenchable hunger for the challenge, for the battle to be joined again next season. But shame? That has no place in our club. Our legacy forbids it.
My first thought after I saw Aguero scoring the goal was: now this is how Bayern players felt in 99. What goes around comes around, this is sports and we have to build on this defeat the same way they did the following seasons.
King Eric
I asked Jnr are we going to make it
He said yes
Then city scored and scored again and it was over
It was a little mad for a few minutes but when push came to shove I had the opportunity to tell him that that is what it means to support United and even when it doesn’t work out you keep your chin up.
This morning on the radio when they were blabbing away on Radio five live – he said to me just put the music on dad, I don’t want to listen to them either
Yes the United spirit is growing – one day it will all belong to them
JP7
I agree, QPR did sit back once they knew they were safe, but that is why we should have taken care of our own games so that we weren’t relying on someone else to win it for us, that’s always going to be dangerous! Lets be honest, QPR did a better job at Waselands than we did a fortnight ago so we can’t complain. Look, it’s the manner of the victory that hurts, we just have to get over it and look to next season otherwise it will just eat away inside and turn you into a bitter. We celebrate United success, we share in United grief. What sets us apart is the manner in which we share these emotions. City celebrate our failure, as much as their own success. They deal with their failure by knocking our success, by fabricating conspiricy theories, claiming referee’s favour our club and time is added to allow us to score. Do not turn into a bitter blue, its what sets us apart!
My heart aches…….but you’ll never break me ya blue bastards. 19
Willie!
There you are!
Did you really say once upon a time Barton could do a job?
Stateside
Bloody quality post pal!! We are United. Seriously, would you want to swap with those fuckers right now? Would you be wanting to get the bus up to Stockport to watch them parade our trophy? For all their celebrations this weekend I know I wouldn’t, not for one second.
Top post by Stateside………. Absolutely brilliant
So what if City won it in the dying minutes? Is that all it takes to emulate United these days, because if it is our squad deserves to fall by the wayside and never regain the Title. Do we have the right manager to batter City next season? Fuck yes, but do we have the squad? The talent is there but we’ve also seen an element of complacency.
Who still thinks Keano was a big bad bully sticking his oar in? I think the truth hurt loads of people who didn’t want to hear it. Rooney being punished for turning up drunk at his age is disgraceful, he’s a bit too old (not forgetting well paid and married) to be pissballing about emulating the young Balotelli isn’t he? Dropping those points against Blackburn has proved a huge – Berbatov was slaughtered the season he didn’t score against them but at least he didn’t turn up pissed. Nice one Wazza.
Also, I hope Jones finally realises he does have it all to prove every single fucking time he wears our shirt. He now looks a twat for denying that as he’s still achieved precisely FUCK ALL in his career unlike the youngsters at CIty who took our Title. Jones would do very well to remember that he’s still miles behind the likes of the Nevilles and O’Sheas, and the Bruces and Pallisters of this world. Yeah we had injuries but tbh theres been far too much complacency as even without Fletcher, Ando and Cleverley it was still in our hands to be Champions today. The fact we’re not is our own fault.
But back to City – they shouldn’t be too boastful as they’ve barely won this Title – and it is correct to say we’ve gifted their first EPL after throwing away the lead we clawed back. If we’d beaten Blackburn or Newcastle, or if we didn’t concede late to Everton, or if we simply took points off City when we went to their ground, we’d be Champions today. It was always in our hands until the very end.
Obviously Rio is right about injuries, but end of the day we were too complacent and City capitalised. The real question is do we have the character to come back? I think we do, but to stand any chance players like Rooney need to show respect to the badge at all times. Im sure Fergie told Wayne those points we dropped at Christmas could cost us the Title. Now look. Yeah we need new players too but even without them we should have won this year, and thats the most important thing to drill into the squad. Next season we need a return to professionalism in addition to the new signings. We can’t buy our traditional winning mentality, it needs re-fostering. I hope we’re back with a vengeance this August.
“‘Cause you’ll never break, never break, never break, never break
This heart of stone” ….
…If I hadn’t seen such riches I could live with being poor!! Time to see how the blues deal with their taste of success. We retained it 3 times and were 1 point away from retaining it a record 4th! I don’t think they will retain it this season. We have also won multiple trophies including an historic treble! I can’t see them doing THE treble. We will be back boys, lets forget this season and look forward to what the new season will bring. We should be excited!!
Breaking News:
Manchester City have lost the premiership trophy and have phoned OT if they could borrow one for the parade
Apparently Tevez and Mario through a punch up lost the trophy – and it is believed that it has either gone to Argentina or Italy
The Government has ordered an immediate investigation believing that Argentina have hijacked the trophy for Falklands Island propaganda.
To echo Statesides sentiments and as I posted on another thread yesterday: 1 point and goal difference are the margins that have prevented us from winning 6 in a row – now that is sustained success, and something to be very proud of.
The FA are sending there top man Trevor Ninkumpoop Brooking to lead the Argentinian investigation.
He will meet his drugged up counterpart Diego Aramnados Maradona to conduct affairs.
It is believed Tony Blair has been asked by Sheikh Mansour to leaned his expertise in the matter to which he will be paid 10 million a free house in Manchester and Abu Dhabi and four wives if he so chooses
MikeKelly12 … like you said mate, we do not want to turn into bitter reds. United isn’t just a club that I support. It’s more than that. I’ve been through some shit of my own this last year. There were times, I have to confess, when I dead-set thought my family would be cast out on the streets. Times when I didn’t know how the fuck I was going to prevent that. Times when it would have been really fucking easy to just give up, and maybe spend the rest of a miserable life living at the bottom of a bottle. But I didn’t. None of that happened, and one of the reasons it didn’t happen is that I learned: you just have to keep going. Every time you draw a breath, eat a meal or take a crap, every time you refuse to roll over and die, that’s a victory. And guess where I learned that lesson? That’s right. From a lifetime of following the club that doesn’t know the meaning of the word “defeat”.
Anyway, enough of the maudlin shit. Don’t know if I mentioned this recently, but I fucking hate transfer season.
One more thing, all the ABU reporting is giving me a headache. No mention of our sidelined Captain, despite being the best defender in the business, or the blow to Fletcher’s career, even tho he arguably started the season as our most seasoned attacking mid. No mention of the injured Anderson and Cleverley either, despite them both putting teams to the sword early on. More to the point theres been very little mention that we’ve ended level on points with the new “run away” champions.
Rio is spot on making these points. Joe Public would be forgiven for thinking we lost by an 8 point gap. City and the ABU’s can paint this up however they want but the truth is 2011/2012 was the slimmest margin of victory in EPL history. We certainly threw it away but I doubt City will be this lucky again next season. Alex Ferguson will be back with a vengeance and when you consider the tens of millions he spent last summer (lol @ no money) im looking forward to seeing some vital changes. Keep your head up lads the sky isn’t falling. Jones, De Gea and Young were top signings bought for a good price and I can see us grabbing more quality this summer. Next season City have it all to do as losing this year will be painful for our squad. All the ABU’s should watch this space.
United Till I Die.
MG – Did i want Barton at United? Big hell no! I challenged peoples views on why we shouldn’t sign him though. We’ve had players with a colourful history in the past. I am disappointed Barton didn’t chin Nasri! Or, Balotelli for that matter!
Stateside Aussie – mate, that wasn’t maudlin. It was a belter and one of the BIG reasons why for me personally, United, and football itself is so important. It tells you to go on, against all adversity.
Though for the life of me, I can’t understand why you hate transfer season so much
Have not read all the posts yet but one thing is clear. Investment in key players required and I do believe. The funds are there if required. For alll th problems and investment in city, they only clinched it in the last minutes bu GD. Amazing considering we choked in a couple of games.
There really is no major power shif, a rebalancing yes. Next season they will have contend with being the champions and therefore a whole host of pressures.
People treat our failure to only just fail to secure the titleas more than a travesty than clubs being relegated. A sense of proportion is required.
I live in London . Out of town northerner. Loads of banter with united zippered, wearing their hats shirts scarves . Not one bitter. That’s because they are a local club, from Manchester with a billion in investment. Hahaha
Is it me but the sheik seemed like he didn’t give a fuck when they win. Probably board if it now he’s won the PL.
REBUILD!!! REBUILD!!! REBUILD!!!
Left Back
x2 Center Mids
Striker!
Possibly even another center back!
Apologies lads, but I’m a bit drunk. Here’s a song I like a lot. “I see … the bitter faces of bitter men, and I don’t want to end up like them” resonates with me. Especially now.
“Too many struggles, too many scenes
A broken record of miseries
And if you let it, it makes you cry
And you can never be satisfied
I see the victims of low esteem
The empty people without a dream
The bitter faces of bitter men
And I don’t want to end up one of them
How will it make me cry
If I won’t let a tear in my eye?
How will it make me feel worse
If I won’t let it hurt?
I’ve been through trouble before
I stood tall when I got up off the floor
To find myself a different situation
Now when the sun rolls across the sky
And the autumn leaves fall before my eyes
I can see the reason why
I remember how to forget
Too many troubles and memories
Of disappointment and apathy
And if you let it, it makes you hate
You’ve got to learn to take it day by day
I see the victims of low esteem
The empty people without a dream
The bitter faces of bitter men
But I don’t want to be one of them
I see the sun roll across the sky
And the autumn leaves fall before my eyes
And I know the reason why
I feel so fine”
–Adrian Belew, “I Remember How To Forget”
Like the positivity United Till I Die!
Everyone is hurting but tht will fade over the summer and we need to focus on next season.
It’s theses defeats that make the victorious seasons all the more sweet.
Remember the smug, smiling faces of the city fans, players and staff celebrating the title.
And think of what their faces will be like when we win OUR title back…
GGMU
Agent MG
Agent Cedars is reporting in, mission in Cyprus complete. I will be back tonight to the land of cedars.
Expect babe updates as of tomorrow exclusively on RoM
Win or lose we love Manchester United Football Club. There will be many other battles and emotions. They just nicked it, this despite our team being in transition and being plaqued by injuries including the losss of our captain for almost the entire season. Indications are that we will be stronger next year so lets just look forward to that.
Well be fefore that there is transfer news to lookforward too!
No place better than ROM today for most trying to avoid the nausea thats everywhere else.
Lads. Did the council organise a parade for united in we won?. The most sickening sight for me was watching spunk munched Nasri celebrating. Detest the ass licking cunt. Thank god he chose the money .
Glad aguero scored the winner ad he’s class just at the wrong club . Glad it wasn’t mario or kettle neck.
Roll on reds, sign up some fucking hard Germans. Let’s club together for schwienstieger!
MikeKelly12 – I completely agree that we should’ve taken care of our own games. Like you say, it is the manner of their victory which hurts as well as us throwing it all away. Anyway, I see us as in the transition process and the fact that we came so close bodes well for the future. A few reinforcements and less injuries to key players will put us back where we belong! We will be stronger next season but I just wish next season would hurry up so we can rectify our wrongs. Just the thought of not watching United in proper competitive action or being able to visit Old Trafford is quite depressing!
Bayored- too true . Funny enough, no mega posts. Plastics have gone into meltdown
I have lost count of the number of times we have been written off over the years. We wont get the credit we have deserved for how many points we have amassed, simply because the media have spent so long trying to denegrate Sir Alex and all the club has achieved. This will never change.
Similarly, every season fans will write that we aren’t good enough and at times the players will perform to a level which makes even the most rose tinted of spectators think the same. We all have our opinions on players we like or don’t like and there is nothing wrong with that.
Yesterday evening was so strange in that all week I had been expecting City to walk the QPR game. Then, suddenly, at 89 minutes gone we were champions. I couldn’t believe what I had dared to dream was about to happen. Having said that, I wasn’t celebrating. I had seen City snatch wins this season too many times and there was a sense of the inevitable when they attacked for the final time.
What happened yesterday could only have been surpassed in the nightmare stakes if City had dropped points and we’d conceded a last minute equaliser. As it was, I have the Wigan and Everton games, the Newcastle home draw and the baffling perfomance at City to look back on and regret.
This morning however, I am back to being the optimist. Whatever anyone says, we have a superb squad who, most importantly, all have the right attitude. Three keepers on whom we can all expect a lot from. Defensive players who can adapt and most with the peak of their careers still to come. Wingers and a player in Michael Carrick who one day some fans might just realise what a superb player he is. For the past six years of watching him in the flesh I will certainly never doubt the guy’s right to be a part of our team. Finally, we have three strikers who most in Europe would take.
I am guilty like most of us at looking at the deficiencies in our team and squad. However, let’s look at our strengths and what a magnificent manager we have. Sure Fergie may have made mistakes this season. But without him we would not have the soul and the heart, the things I see in every player we have. No moaning to the press, no falling out on the training ground. That is why I will always be Utd, win lose or draw. We amassed a huge points total and scored a shed load of goals. Most seasons we would have romped it, 19 points clear of third!
Sure we need less injuries and some squad tweaking, but that is all it is. We matched City who in all likelihood will be the only team capable of really pushing us next season. We are the benchmark, we set the standards on the pitch and off it. Let’s face the challenge like we always do.
Lads. Can’t blame em celebrating . A billion sheets for their first title in over 40 yrs. I guess we will feel like that next yr on 20 !.
I’m a happy happy rag happy rag happy rag
Next year titles in the bag in the in the bag
Brooka- good post
Brooka @ 13:03: “a player in Michael Carrick who one day some fans might just realise what a superb player he is.”
Ssssh. THAT can be our little secret. UTD > Ingerland.
Stateside, My dear friend, Thank You, Thank You and a thousand times Thank You.
Those were two brilliant posts. And no amount of superlatives could do them justice. Just brilliant and your second especially almost brought a tear to my eye.
Not in the least because it is something I’ve used time and again to find strength from within. Whenever I find something irritable in my life, I look to United and think about how the team as a whole have always reacted to adversity. It may sound like fantasy to some who’ve never thought of United in that manner but I truly mean it. That is why Manchester United will always be more than a football club for me. As Cedars likes to say, it is a way of life.
Balaji- excellent post mate.
Nothing, absolutely nothing, can excuse losing the title after being 8 points clear with 6 matches to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stateside and Brooka – Some top posts.
MG – Nice one mate.
Balaji … Amazing, isn’t it? Amazing, just how many of us have been brought together by this wonderful club. And how, by following it, we have learned lessons that help us in our own lives. How to respond to challenges — not just respond to them, but welcome them, because we have learned that it’s the challenges that make us stronger. Being born with a silver spoon in your mouth — that’s not a challenge. Winning the lottery — that’s not a challenge. Having something handed to you on a plate — not a challenge.
Getting kicked in the teeth and picking yourself up, licking the blood from your lips, and getting on with it — that’s a challenge, and it’s a challenge that builds strength. The strong don’t get strong because they had silver spoons, and hand-outs and lucky wins.
And it is really amazing how many of us have learned that, just by following this great club. Beyond football, and into life. Fucking amazing. Nite lads, and cheers.
Stateside..
Top sentiments mate!
Football is not more important than life and death, but imagine our lives without it?!
We will never experience a day like that again in our lives, of that I’m sure. What is certain though is that I will never take winning for granted again.
King Eric- hello. We want schwienstieger amongst others.. Not going to happen but I can only dream .
Stateside- great posts . Hoping for a fucking thunderstorm later today over Manchester /-)
We’re strongest when our backs are to the wall with all and sundry taking shots at us.
Losing the league by a few goals to that type of investment is fucking fantastic really- SAF has does exceptionally well, again. Few dollars this summer would be ideal.
Blackburn, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liver… ahhh, just kidding- We’ve seen it all before and we’ll be back with a fucking Bang next season, no doubt. It sounds ridiculous but this could be the best thing to happen to the younger players- do you want to feel hurt like this again? Do you want some blue bastards who are in it purely for the money to do this to you? Do you want Curly Watts celebrating wildly? No.
The nucleus is strong, the spirit will be galvanised by this kick in the teeth.
Such a shame that we nearly had it yesterday, but I will put my left bollock on the line to say that fairly soon it’ll be us again celebrating winning in the nick of time. Course we will. It’ll make it all the sweeter knowing the pain of this seasons culmination.
In the words of Corporal Jones: “Don’t panic!”
Next season. Fuck, I’m already getting moist in my Calvinios at the prosepct.
Use the hurt, let the pain propel you, channel the angst and unleash it on the rest next season.
We’re fucking Man United for fucks sake- who the FUCK are you? No one.
Exactly.
Red Army. Fuckin’ Ave it.
Xyth- what is the desired outcome from your statement.
Don’t forget Costas, De Gea also needs to get eye correction procedure done – given our record, I’m going to assume De Gea will soon be declared blind!
Agreed with Rio . We lost Vidic and Fletcher for almost the whole season as well as cleverly for part of it .
suppose Shitty lost Kompany and Yaya toure for the majority of the season and lost barry for half the season …they would not win the league
BUT STILL THE BEST TEAM WON
Agent Cedars
Godspeed back home and thanks Mama Cedars for looking out for 00Devil
Willie – That’s okay mate was pulling your leg only Costas said yesterday that you did fancy Barton at OT – take it up with the Kebab man!
G’day Down Under Aussie!
Cant believe we threw the title away. City have embarrased us in a serious way this season. 1. getting beat 6-1 at home. Then losing at the wastelands to that BULB heads header. Putting them on top on goal differnece then to top it off City losing to QPR at 90 minutes and Us United fans all celebrating then they go and score 2 injury time goals to really take the piss out of us and win the league. That was just daylight robbery. The United players have let there fans down in a big big way this season. The shit I have had to put up with in work today is just unreal. Personally I feel sick to give the title up to them.
Fergie is gonna have to pull out the stops now. United have a lot of faith in some of them players. A major clear out needs to happen and United need to sign some special players to keep up with City now.
Anyone else having ABU’s having a go at you for not winning anything this season. If its okay, I will hang here with you guys till this goes away.
MarkoWire:
People like you give United fans a bad name.
United players have let their fans down? Are you on crack? Same points total you muppet- we were unlucky.
We’ve all had to take shit today, we take it, then sooner or later we get to give it back.
Go and support Citeh if they’ll do you proud, you complete and utter fucking disgrace of a fan- enjoy wearing your new tea-towel shirt.
Are you completely without a clue?
Opinions differ, sure- but if letting you down is 25 years of smashing everyone then the odd blip here or there, then you’re living in a fucking fantasy world you utter, utter pleb.
You sound like a spoilt brat who has been denied one last Haribo. You’re far from Tangfastic.
Do one.
ClaytonBlackmore’sTan – Fucking right posts pal. Oh boo hoo they let us down. How fucking spoilt? We move on,.
ClaytonBlackmoresTan –
Preach brother preach. If it wasn’t for the fact that you deny the apostrophe from your username, you’d be pretty much genius.
Zibbie says:
Hello all, STR I have a new 4 G phone and a new email address and tried Zibbie and was denied. Then Cubs please let me in on my new Email. Guys who talk to STR let him know Cubs is Zibbie.
Been to long, saw may post’s on my new phone. I was tring to get in when Willie and more were talking of me the other day. I was there lads! When you were calling for ZIBBIE.
Rooney what a player!
2011-2012 Manchester United side what a team.
Manchester United what a club.
SAF what a gaffer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO ROONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Rio, needing 2 points out of Wigan away and Everton at home and getting 1 is not “coping well”.
Its capitulating.
Lets hope it never happens again.
Can’t wait to win it back with some more home grown players. Still 11-11 and billions cant do anything about it. Watch SAF pull some rabbits out of his hat.
Hi all u reds city are the only team to win the lge radio 2 had a phone in at 1200 blue fucking moon played everyother record on sky they said the city is theirs congratulate them id piss on them .U should have heard fat twat allen green he said he went to the city game as a neutral then said he was emotional .I would not let that fat ugly bastard in ot again along with those yank bastards .HAVE A GOOD SUMMER REDS
I heard they announced the Bolton result before the game had finished at the emptyhead?
Is that correct? They’re fucking twats if they did.
If we need any motivation for next season just point to the poor excuse of a hum$an being tevez, celebrate your victory yes fair enough but to hold up that banner,just proves what lowlife he is no class whatsoever
As much as it annoys me to say I said man city would win it from the off and it looked like man city where going too as mancini bought class and it was obvious they had to win something! Fergie cost us this season but its okay because hes Alex Ferguson
just hope he buys class next season or dont spend at all coz we have good young players who can play for united but we don’t need anymore GOOD PLAYERS if u get my drift?? Hope fergies learnt to play players in their PROPER POSITIONS..cant get away with that anymore as city are too powerful now!!
Here’s my 10 pennies worth on why United will win the league and champions league next season.
1 – Next season will see us back to our strong domineering playing with swagger and hunger like never before.
2 – The open disrespect of SAF by cunt Tevez’s RIP slogan will only motivate him even more.
3 – The younger players plus the ones SAF hasn’t sold will be hungrier, more experienced and determined to succeed.
4 – there won’t be any complacency like before
5 – the first eleven will be stronger, plus we will finally have quality midfield players able to control and dominate the centre of the field.
6 – Our defence will be even better and harder to penetrate. As DDG, Evans, Smalling plus Vidic will be fresher and stronger. Again SAF will add quality LB and RB.
7 – Competition for places will be greater so if you’re not performing you won’t start. Simple as really. Players like Evra will no longer think “their” position is guaranteed.
8 – Welbeck and Hernandez will be fresher and stronger, and have more competition to play with Rooney as SAF will buy a top quality forward.
9 – The youth players who have broken into the first team like Tom Cleverly, Zeki Fryers and Ryan Tunniclife, Davide Petrucci, Larnell Cole will be included in 1st team activities. Again creating an environment where 1st team places are up for grabs.
10 – SAF will want to ensure not only putting city in their rightful place – behind United but also make a statement to Europe that we are serious players and to be feared again.
11 – Gill has said there are funds to meet transfer fees and wages, so along with the sales of the like of Berbatov, and others, and the release of Owen etc, the squad will be a lot fresher with top quality players.
12 – We will play in a more dynamic way than previous seasons, as the movement, energy and discipline of the
team will be like nothing we’ve seen before. We play like Borussia Dortmund and Athletic Bilbao. In that it will be more, precision passing, high tempo pressing, and counter attacking play. We are in for some exciting times, and especially in Europe where we were a big disappointment.
The feeling I had was correct, that United wouldn’t win anything this season given the squad we had and the long term injuries to Fletcher and Vidic. But I also think SAF took his eye off the ball, and that transmitted to the players, especially when we went 8 points clear. That’s never happened to United being at the business end to loose the title. But we did, and I believe that at that stage, the players and SAF just took their eye off the ball, thinking the hard work had been done. Not a conscious thing, but subconscious thing. Remember they had some tough games in February and March. April started off okay, but I think they just thought – ‘few we’ve gone through the toughest schedule and come out 8 points clear’ and just relaxed too much. Instead of stepping the tempo up and pushing on, they took their foot off the gas, then when it started to go wrong – i.e. Wigan, Everton, city, and tried to step up again, they had lost that momentum/drive that had got them their in the first place. SAF will know this and ensure it doesn’t happen again.
Yes city will strengthen, but we’ve played them 4 times last season. They’ve won 2 and we won 2. Okay both their victories were in the league. But given their squad strength versus ours on paper at least it should have been 4 -0 to them. We saw how they struggled when Vincent Kompany was suspended for a few games then injured. And how they really missed Yaya Touré, and even that idiot mercenary Tevez when he went AWOL for a few months. That’s when they dropped the most points. We were without Vidic and Fletcher for most of the season.
So United fans, next season we can be confident our title will be back at OT, sitting next to the Champions League trophy, and who knows maybe the FA Cup or Carling cup too.