It has been a year since the incident at Loftus Road. During that time, some of the deep divisions that exist in football have been exposed. In the coming months there will be ongoing discussions, we are sure, on finding a way forward. We intend to participate in these discussions, along with numerous other current and ex-professionals of all races, from the grass roots upwards, across the football community as a whole.
On the issue of Kick It Out, we would like to go on record to say what fantastic work they have done in the past regarding education and awareness. However, times change and organisations need to change with them. We are more than happy to join the discussion, privately, to make Kick It Out more relevant in its fight to stamp out racism in football.
Although we have been left disappointed by the PFA and the FA’s actions over the last year, as a family, we are committed to working with football’s existing organisations towards the betterment of the game and to achieve immediate action.
We would like to thank all the fans and the staff at Queens Park Rangers and Manchester United for their support in what has been a difficult year. In particular we want to thank Sir Alex Ferguson and Mark Hughes.
We will not be discussing publicly any issues connected with the case. We are now going to concentrate on playing football.
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RIO > KIO
Great statement. Rio has really matured with age. Unlike the Terrys of this world.
Kick it Out Union = All show no power
FA = Weak
UEFA = Wimp
FIFA = Useless
Looks like Rio has heeded to Fergie’s words that he needs to talk to the FA and the organizations concerned. Well done Rio – now concentrate on football like you said. we need you.
Very strong statement. Highly critical of the current structures. But key sentence:
“we are committed to working with football’s existing organisations towards the betterment of the game and to achieve immediate action.”
So no second union……. for now? That’s my read anyway.
PFA also came out with a strong 6 point proposal today which may have influenced this statement.
KEY POINT:
Point 5) Racial abuse to be considered gross misconduct in player and coach contracts (and therefore potentially a sackable offence).
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/the-professional-footballers-association-announces-new-1396494
I’m proud of Rio and I hope every United fan supports him, his brother, and their cause.
I’m proud of Rio and Anton on this. They’ve come out and said it, unlike John Terry who has kept quiet. For Rio, he has got an honest manager like Sir Alex to give proper advice. I wonder what the other manager is up to?
Make them sweat!
Good statement.
Ajax-Whores 3-1
Life is good.
City
And Dortmund win R. Madrid so city are 5 points behind a place in the knockouts! Life is good indeed!
Haha once again Mancini’s lack of managerial skills on display this man is balls at champions league
Bye Bye Bobby Manc,cunts only have 1 pt on a bad penalty call,buying rentboys will never sustain a winning mentality bunch of fucking quitters with no heart.I fucking love it
Well done Ajax. [No fucking Nedum Onuohas to gift them goals!!!!!]
My God, is there any Irish lads here? Watched the City game on RTE 2 tonight and the analysis after it… Eamon Dunpy completely RIPPED Man City apart, I don’t particularly like Dunphy for his constant ranting, but this is a couple of things he said about City…
Firstly he lambasted Mancini for buying that “clown” Balotelli, and said it sickens him that Balotelli has a premier league winners medal. Then referred to City as a team of “delinquent mercenaries” and just blurted out.., “I don’t like Manchester City.. I don’t like that they stand for.” I don’t think a pundit could say that on TV in England without a serious backlash.
Then again, this guy also said that Ronaldo would amount to nothing, and that United would decline seriously (about 5 years ago).
ON TOPIC: Good to see Rio come out and explain his position. I respect it, and respect him more than I have ever for what he’s doing. Good for him and his brother.
All those other daft cunts at Le Arse after a few games saying the team was better off without RVP some daft bastards forking over 126 quid a game to watch a pile of shit london mugs
Wayne ur killin me hahahh
We just need to go and stick it to the rent boys and their bubble will burst as well mark my words
Fucking Citeh. you go tto laugh. Mercenary cunts with fuck all back bone.
As for Rio and Antons charade, Im not on their side and because of one or two individuals the whole English game has been made to look a shambles. The majority of players and fans out their are not racist or if they are in the context of true moral faggotry are only slightly racist behind closed doors. Those that still have archaic thoughts but are wise enough to not blurt it out in public for whatever reason, to not cause offence or to not get his head caved in – you decide. But because of a south American where the spanish contingent are notoriously racist and a fucking scum bag chav from a shitty neighbourhood and with parents he’s got, England has to be made a racist hell hole because of the agendas of a pair of brothers wanting to milk the hard done-by-ness of themselves growing up in inner city poverty and disgracefull things that happened to their fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers father.
I for one am totally sick of this respect and anti racist bullshit as by and large there is very little if any racism in todays society EXCEPT when a few drunken arseholes get together who are at best the dregs of society. The majority of us are clean have no racist conitations but still get our country and image dragged through the fucking mud. As far as Im concerned Rio is a fucking twat and has an itchy key board finger with delusions of grandure about becoming something other than a sky pundit one day.
How the F**k did that happen. Dumbstruck!!!!!
How could the club that has a better squad than Barca with the world’s greatest player (Balotelli) loose?
That is just not fair, uefa just did give the sheik enough time to buy Ajax so his “project” woild succeed
What on earth is goat rambling on about? You really are out of touch with reality and are in denial. Your logic makes no sense, rio and anton have done exactly the right thing, they’ve spoken out over a serious issue that is evident all around the world rather than the usual “hide everything under the carpet” your idea that they’re milking out society holds no grounds and has to be one of the most mind boggling thing i’ve read on Rom. Bloody hell.
Discrimination against colour is still on going, not just in football stadiums but in society, getting rid of it entirely is never going to happen unfortunately. Educate people as much as you like and put on useless t-shirts but an ignorant will always be an ignorant. It doesn’t help when some assume it’s nothing serious. Rio and many more stood their ground, it may never eradicate the issue but at least they’ve not hid away even though some people want to brush it aside.
Sir Alex was pretty gracious after Rio inadvetently showed him up, and now I think he has ben nicely repaid.
All in all, a pretty mature reaction on both sides. One more reason to be proud of this club, the manager and the players.
samuel
I realise that racism wont be completely eradicated jesus fucking wept we still have the chance to see a US president who thinks Darwin is a fraud and that the big bang was the sound of the seed of creation being ejected by the loins of the great redeemer. But in reality the level of racism that we are at now is as good as it will be for a generation atleast. Society may have its pockets of racism but we arent talking about society we are talking about football and I do believe that Rio and his brother are milking an awful event to keep them in the papers, popular and subject to better deals in the near future. Do I reckon Rio and co are disingenious, yes I fucking do.
Lets put it in perspective, Suarez was stupid and used a word which is common in South America, thats no defence and Im glad it was outed but what suffered, the English game. Terry blurted something out and despite being cleared by the law courts it has blighted the English game through dodgy handling of the whole affair. Then we have the two (and a few others) deciding that NOT being at one was the best way to be United. But lets forget the incidences of choc ice, the use of the brotherly term niggah in rap music openly loved by him and the use of the N word by Evra in a hotel rant (ask someone for link of video).
Racism is on the decrease, the 15 – 25yo’s might not see it but some older folk will tell you of the vast improvements. It will get better but if these things are drug on and wounds reopened for fun then it actually starts getting peoples backs up.
So I just heard the black footballers wanna form their own association I honestly believe the black footballers wanting to form their own association is a bit short sighted and counter productive Racism is racism whatever race u are, if you have an organisation that excludes a race, then you become as bad as the people you are trying to protect I understand the fact black people are a minority but they should also remember that they’re a lot more people from different ethnic backgrounds that partake in football And some of them suffer the same fate so should they also form their own associations? People forget the PFA chairman is black It is racist to exclude one group and its also hypocrisy to not have a level playing field if that’s what your trying to demonstrate if an association fails to in it’s duty, it should be addressed, not have a new association set up that only focuses on one ethnicity, Although Sometimes, some form of positive discrimination is needed especially when their are massive historical imbalances to redress. Creating a union is taking it too far though Just my opinion
Sorry for the long post had to get that off my chest.
Before talking about city I want to make some comments regarding Arsenal. Have never hated arsenal club but seriously they have been acting like jerks this season. I remember their fans were very happy when Kagawa was supposedly injured in the international fixture. Then when they won 6-1 at home to a lowly Southampton everyone including media and fans said they were better without RVP and are better than United. Where are those media guys now who were saying arsenal will finish in better position than Manchester United . Bloody Abus
Manchester city are showing and proving that hey are overrated. Honestly the 6-1 result got into their head. Credit to them for that victory but honestly we gifted them 6 goals. It was us playing pathetically than them playing like masterclass. It was because of our poor performances in the month of april which made them win the league on Goal differences. I think this years european campaign is bringing them back to the reality. No chance they will win the league.
Ash, without a shadow of the doubt, you are the last top poster left on RoM. I know you miss your Asian kin yet you keep repping your peeps in their absence full throttle. Scientifically. It aint easy. There’s never any bitching with you,rather,alwayz the rendering of solutions to challenges. Well,consider inviting your squad back on RoM. They are all sorely missed. We know who the phoneys are. They are still family. At least, that’s what I believe. Peace.
daemondada
Thanks for your kind words. There are still many good posters here in this blog. Scott has been doing a wonderful job . Speaking of the people who left, yeah they did a good job here but I think they have moved on.No point thinking about the past. There are still very good posters here who do a great job For me RoM is still the best blog for united. Period
Dortmund are really a side that we should admire.
Some time ago they almost went bankrupt, and to face the indignity of borrowing money from rivals Bayern to stay afloat. After that, they went about nurturing young talent and shrewd buys to get stronger, in the process, they have introduced exciting talents like Sahin, Goetze, Kagawa, Hummels and many more. They play like a team and they play proper football, and deservingly been more successful than Bayern who just go around buying up players from rivals in their league.
Marq
Agree with you on Dortmund. They are a very good side. Won’t be surprised if they reach till the semis in europe. I would hope we avoid facing them. They are a dangerous side. Credit should be given to Klopp. He has done a magnificent work there. Would be very surprised if they don’t progress to the knock out rounds.
Marq, got to agree with you. I suppose the credit should go to their manager,Jürgen Klopp, for turning things around since his appointment in 2008.
oops,
wasn’t aware of your post ash.
Matured response from Rio
I agree with you Marq about respect for Dortmund. I just disagree with the slight on Bayern Munich. I believe Toni Kroos, Thomas Mueller, Holger Badstuber, Lahm and Schweinsteiger all developed from an early time their. And Hummels is also from the bayern youth academy
Mature statement from RIo. As he says, lets get back to football.
Man City are realising again that the CL is no playground. They have players good enough to get to the quarters but I think Mancini hasn’t a clue with regards preparation or tactics and as a team they don’t have to experience to cope. United struggled too on the return the CL in the 90′s and it took a few years to establish ourselves as a force to be reckoned with. City’s could be finished as a ‘contender’ before they even get to establish themselves.
Hey you all – did anyone watch the city match? I know sometimes scorelines can be deceiving… just wondering if city did play well or did they perform badly? any reviews from who watched? thanks!
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/176162.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
Ronaldo part II saga coming. Only god Knows what will happen to Nani.
City lad told me last night a mere hiccup , still the best team in the league. No worries there then. Re rio and co . I tire of the subject to be honest .
Deamondada/ ash- I agree , there are still some good posters on this site and Scott , thanks for keeping it all rolling along .
Goat,
I felt as though I had to reply to this, considering you were talking about England’s appearance abroad. About how the Rio and Anton has made England appear more racist than the country actually is.
I have to say that this is completely inaccurate. As a Swede, I can say that the people here, and the Swedish media, consider this to be a positive thing. As opposed to the Spanish and Italian leagues (that refuse to believe that racism exists in their countries, even though bananas are being thrown), at least England acknownowledges the problem and works against it. You don’t deny racism and keep your eyes closed, which is immensely important.
This issue has not accused the English of being racist, it has rather given FA a bigger responsibility when it comes to tackling racism. Nothing else.
Sonneveld
I didn’t mean that all Bayern’s players are poached form rival teams, sure they do have their own players that they developed, but I am pretty sure they have also on more than one occasion pocked off players from other direct rivals. And in a way Bayern have a somewhat similiar setup as us, mixing homegrown talent with periodic splashes in the market. So don’t mistake my comments on Bayern as a dig at them, because what they are doing is perfectly fine, they don’t spend silly money like Chelsea, City & PSG
To add to the international persperctive by Swedish Red, I live in Spain and the issue was only half reported with reports basically saying that Ferdinand didn’t support the campaign and that Ferguson was disappointed but it didn’t go into the issues behind not wearing the t-shirt. I don’t think however that it would lead people to people that racism is a rampant problem in the English game.
On one forum the following question was asked: What if it had been a white player who hadn’t donned the t-shirt? What would have happened then?
fucking had to piss myself at Man Oilshlicky fucking daft cunts, that fat arsed Toure didnt thow a fucking leg last night can be great when he wants to be but if a united player on his wages walked around the pitch like a member of the fucking walking dead id be pissed!fucking weird eared cunt. Loved laughing at Mr Traffic fucking cone Gareth fucking nothing Barry getting made a fucking clown of by the Ajax kids!! then the fucking disastrous tactics hahahah! what the fuck was that! taking off alien head lesbiancott and putting on all i can do is take a freekickorov put him left back and clitty centre half!! hahahahah! fucking hilarious and as much as i hate KETTLE NECK he is a far better player then Dshitto he is a fucking pinnochio nosed cunt overrated shithead, loved laughing at fucking wankini then in the build uo to the game he said ” i ah no da ploblem i fix it” fucking dumb cunt made it even worse fucking overrated wank manager with his fucking perma tan and his egg head assistant david twat, fucking pissed myself.
Bobby Charlton’s combover:
All hell would break loose.
Re Rio. Think United and England will come out of this the better for it. Don’t think anyone is saying the ‘major’ problem is the fans. Fans are a small part of a problem. But it is fair enough to say the FA have tried to turn a deaf ear on racism (subtle or otherwise) IN THE GAME.
I think the most mature and important think about Rios statement is that they want to work within the games current structures. Now they have made everyone sit up and listen. Lads would be miffed if there was a second players union pissing about as was the talking point on the weekend. Working within the game is a proper way forward that everyone can get behind.
I just hope we can move on and start talking about Footy again. Last years has really been over the top talking about non-football issues. Not that it hasn’t been a pleasure to have Chelsea and Liverpool on the police scanners for the past year. But one feels it is time to move on.
Re Last nights CL results: Some really well reasoned observations on here, Making my day
Luv it when we are taking the p*ss out of our rivals and not ourselves. Long may it continue!
The other thing that Rio and Antons statement did was allow “Détente” in the Handshakes war.
READ THIS!
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/What-The-Papers-Say/2012/Oct/Papers-Rio-Ferdinand-to-shake-hands-with-Terry-and-Cole.aspx
Gaz love it
Totally agree with respect for Dortmund.
I have always said that a club needs a great manager.
There are great managers and then there are managers of great teams
Great managers like Clough, Busby, Fergie (and a couple of those Scouse bastards which i can not bring myself to name). Managers who built teams…who got the best out of what they had, who played systems that made the best use pof the players they had. I do not often agree with hansen but a couple of seasons ago he said that if Fergie a had been the manager of any of the top 5 clubs they would have won the league. And Mr Klopp certainly looks like he is a good manager.
Managers of great teams. The best example ever was Don Revie manager of Leeds’ only great team. When that team broke up he could not regenerate another great team or make the best use of what he had there.
Mr Mankini – He won everything in Italy coz Inter had all the money and would buy up every half decent player in that league. Despite the wads of cash they splashed about he was nowhere in Europe. Does that have a familiar ring to it? – He couldn’t manage a decent turd with a extreme bout of diahorea
@Swedish red – exactly if would have be armageddon.
@gaz – “Loved laughing at Mr Traffic fucking cone Gareth fucking nothing Barry getting made a fucking clown of by the Ajax kids!!” Inspired.
In relation to Dortmund -they are playing better than I expected and look almost certain to go through with Madrid. City will find it tough over there and with Madrid at home they can all but kiss goodbye to the CL again this year. I can’t see Mancini holding on long if that’s the case. I think city have the players to compete in Europe but they don’t have a team. They’re all mercenaries and Mancini has never had full reign over them.
I heard powell Limped off yesterday in the reserves fixture. Anyone know how serious it is?
Ash. Powell came off with what they called a “dead leg” and it has been labeled as “not serious”. But he did seem to get a knock before then so we will have to see.
Luckily the reserves still managed a 2-1 win in the Manchester Senior Cup. Goals from Bebe and Henriquez.
http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/Reserves/Reserves-News/2012/Oct/report-stockport-county-v-manchester-united-manchester-senior-cup.aspx
Gaz, easy buddy, easy!
Bebe’s still around? The last I heard of him, was during the DHL tour to south africa
he has a neck of nicking those vital goal, he’s a lucky bastard, really happy for him though
Our Manchester Senior Cup team could play in the championship EASY! Bebe, Powell, Macheda, Henriquez…..
Top lads who imo will all make big
United united united!!!!!
Our Manchester Senior Cup team could play in the championship EASY! Bebe, Powell, Macheda, Henriquez…..
Top lads who imo will all make it big
United united united!!!!!
Contrary to popular belief professional football has an obligation to fight racism. The FA can’t let terraces become havens for scum to hide among supporters yet do nothing. You lot down the park on a Sunday can do whatever you want but stop fucking moaning about the game being dragged into the 21 Century.
ON another note – I don’t care how much they’re paid, If players in the EPL have to face racist abuse they should also have a guarantee that any supporter or player caught bang to rights will be banned.
Imo, jumping on Bent and Rio for making comments related to their own ethnicity but letting CLLC lead his county at the Euros is Provocative. Its sending out the wrong message and asking for a response nobody wants. For the last year the Ferdinands, Evra and others have been accused of this and that but you’ve gotta admit they’ve shown nothing but class when faced with complete and utter cunts. They all get my respect compared to the people they are up against.
@Samuel – Goat doesn’t understand that the Ferdinand’s might feel a duty of CARE towards the next generation of players facing racism now. Goat possibly lacks that fundamental faculty which separates us from sub-human savages (in suits no less). Good luck with your philanthropy tho haha.
The way I see it Welbeck’s family could be the next to receive a bullet in the post so Rio is right to speak out now. Simple as that. Demanding change is the right thing to do for players experiencing racism. And like the manager said, it should be done as an organisation. Ferdinand is even giving KIO time to grow a backbone before he retires and rolls up his sleeves haha. I think its brilliant, and if Goat sees a conspiracy in all of that, I guess thats his cross to bear init?
@Bobby Charlton’s Combover – Well that was a daft question being asked (What if it had been a white player who hadn’t donned the t-shirt? What would have happened then?)
Thats a prime example of a willing audience being taken for twats by journo’s “tackling the big issues”. Scott has already posted about “who” boycotted the t-shirt twice now, and its an established fact that neither the Swansea or Wigan squads wore it that weekend. So contrary to popular misinformation, nearly half the players boycotting the t-shirt were WHITE, but it doesn’t take a genius to work out why the media portrayed it as an uppity, black separatist guerilla movement aye?
“I didn’t prepare the players well for this game. I’ll take the fault for this defeat” mankini said
when you lose as many games as he did in europe with teams as good as inter and shitty its surely not hex, its bad management…
, they may fucking blow everything now
Now I ask myself, why is it that you always looking to take the blame whenever you lose..
Why ddnt you address this before the game?
You thought this was a sunday pub league?
Its really pleasing watching them scums lose and mankini always doesn’t fail us either
He’s proving again and again that he’s tactically inept in europe and that doesn’t take a genius to see considering his recent slumps in the competition
I say down shitty, down!!
Even giggsy have way many appearances in the competition than them
He has 140 appearances shitty only 9 app..
Which is utterlly woeful
If they go out now that means they’ll have the league as their main priority which could be bad for us but there seems to be a lot of dispute in their dressing room
And I expect mankini to get sacked if he fails to qualify for europa league
I think the denial of a problem is laughable. When clearly most have never suffered such discrimination against their colour then they’ll never understand. It’s great for rio and co to speak up as history will tell, horrendous things took place, instigated by most on this shore and beyond. The victims never had a voice or rights, things are now in place for victims to not just hide away, they’re speaking up. I think it’s delusional to assume discrimination against colour is any less or decreasing on this shores and beyond, people have been forced to curb their actions hence can’t express it fully both in football and in life. For me, i will back rio and anyone standing up, if it seems as milking an already disjointed out of touch with reality society then so be it. Things shouldn’t be swept under the carpet as people would love it to be.
I don’t know where this “black union” crap came from, don’t think rio or anyone has suggested that apart from the usually dim-witted english media, they more often than not jump into melodramatic conclusions, partly why the national team embarrasses itself in competition but that’s a matter for another day. The likes of rio want matters dealt with adequately, they decided to snub that useless tshirt because it will never eradicate simple minded ignorants. People suddenly concluded that a union is about to be born, baffling. I think another thing that irks me is the “he only made a discrimination against colour gesture, it doesn’t make him a racist” or the “heat of the moment” weak pathetic excuse used by cowards out there, one of many things that sums up the whole issue for me. If i were rio, i would not bother, you can’t change the perception of mankind, ignorance is a stain that will never leave.
As for borrusia dortmund, i sort of expected this big improvements from them this season. They’ve dominated the german league but lacked experience in europe. They’ve always had the talent but more importantly, they play as a unit. Klopp is tactically knowledgeable. bright managers, he studies how to stop opponents just as much as he’d want to exposd them. Younger vibrant team playing with no fear and filled with stars of the german national team, could be dark horses for the champions league, you’ll need to be spot on in all departments to beat them.
As for borrusia dortmund, i sort of expected this big improvements from them this season. They’ve dominated the german league but lacked experience in europe. They’ve always had the talent but more importantly, they play as a unit. Klopp is tactically knowledgeable. bright manager, he studies how to stop opponents just as much as he’d want to expose them. Younger vibrant team playing with no fear and filled with stars of the german national team, could be dark horses for the champions league, you’ll need to be spot on in all departments to beat them.
Proverb,
It is interesting to note what Mancini has been successful at.
Mancini Was given unlimited budget at Milan and City and build league winning mega squads, but was never successful in Europe. Suggesting he can build with excessive budgets but doesn’t have the tactics to succeed in the ultimate tactics league on the planet.
By contrast:
Mourinho inherited 3 clubs with great rosters, and converted them into CL finalists or winners in concert with insane budgets, along the way winning league titles. Now at Real he has to retool a side that is competing with Barca and has one league title. Maybe this will be his biggest building success if he can return to a CL win. In my view, I reluctantly agree that Mourinho is a better tactician, although I can’t stand his approach.
Guardiola inherited an amazing squad at Barca and ran riot over Spain and Europe for 4 years, but has never built a side in his life. Think the jury is still out on whether he has any tactical nous.
Had lunch with an Le Arse and a chav, “they were saying that, only small teams won champions lge matches!!!!!!” I understand, ‘just morons consoling each other !’
Gaz- I propose you as the official spokesman for the club. Good on ya.
Any thoughts on the reported new Nike deal?
According to the Daily Fail (ya well), the new shirt deal with Nike could net United £1000M ($1.6BillionUS).
I’ve heard a number of 10 years but probably 12+.
The previous 13yr deal ends in 2015 and netted United £303M, this translates to about £23.3M/yr.
So if the new deal is for 13 years, then this nets about £76M/yr. Sounds good eh.
Yes but like the old deal ya?! But like the old deal, it sounds great at the front end. Doubt 76M will look that good in 2026. About like 23m looks now.
Anyone got a good link to a more credible source?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2222096/Manchester-United-line-1bn-Nike-kit-deal.html
Mancini had lucky stint at inter. Juventus were relegated and Milan were just not upto the mark in serie a so Inter had easy run. Mancini had dismal record in europe. He si a good manager but not great. Mourinho is a far better manager than mancini.
Ash, Cheers mate. You won’t be surprised but it seems you could be commenting for ITV. Least you are in complete agreement with Dunphy!
Dunphy thinks it is an embarassment that Balotelli gets to wear an EPL champions medal.
Don’t usually agree with him….. but then he has a point doesn’t he.
See it yourselves
Eamon Dunphy rips SheikCity a new one on ITV2.
[Warning] Minimal United content. But it’s there if you listen carefully.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/eamon-dunphy-lays-into-roberto-mancini-and-manchester-city-after-ajax-defeat/
Hi all.Epic rant by Gaz
Onwards and upwards.Bye
Bobby Manc is a whiney, slimely little cunt and got lucky because Utd had tons of injuries otherwise wouldn’t have won the Prem
Look at the way he’s handled Tevez was never going to play for the cunts again then brought him back,same with mental Mario said he was done for the season then played him.This year taking shots at Hart after the Real Madrid game.His stupid fucking ‘mind games’ with Sir Alex which are child like and ridiculous
Its obvious the players don’t respect him City is a gong show,he really is just a fucking wanker he’ll be gone this year
Fletch
Balotelli is an amazing talent but he is a big jerk. Even Sir alex may find it difficult to manage him. Another wastage of talent. You know Sometimes (Only sometimes) I feel sorry for mancini. He is trying his level best to make city click as a unit but he is failing. If they are trophyless this season then I can bet players like aguero, Yaya toure , Tevez will become restless and will demand to leave. Won’t be surprised if Real madrid or barca bid for Hart. Man city will fall down. They have to win the league very badly more than us. Champions league is out of question this time unless they do a chelsea.
Fletch
Nike deal is around the corner. Maybe in early 2013 we will sign a big time deal with them. 76 million per year is a big big amount. We have already a huge deal with chevrolet as our shirt sponsor. Things are looking good.
By the way how is our Stock exchange thing going. Haven’t heard about that one for some time. Any idea.
Nani going public again,he knows why he’s not playing more and god knows what the future holds.This is what really bugs me about Nani,in the summer went public about contract demands with veiled threats,why doesn’t he just knuckle down and apply himself and prove his worth,the reason he’s not getting much playing time is because he’s been shit no other reason.
I’ve seen the article, Maybe nani sees himself unappreciated. There are huge clubs queueing for his signature. Personally, if he feels he can get better and be supported at another club and as much i’d hate to lose a top player who in my view is the best winger united have and is one of the best around europe, i’d let him move on for his career to progress.
Samuel I’m beginning to think Nani has a sense of entitlement wanting a 40 percent pay raise without doing anything to prove it,regular playing time although he’s not performing.I know you think its confidence but for me he’s sulking because not getting his own way
Isn’t that many clubs lining up for him and those who are want him cheap,I also rate him mate but you’ve got to admit his attitude and running to the press when things don’t go his way stinks
Dortmund Real game was excellent.. both sides palying some excellent stuff. I hope we don’t have to face these guys anytime soon…
the way they opened up the defence with incredible through balls was scarry..the midfield vision was oh so sweet.. we’ll have to be on top of our game and press the shit out of these guys whenevre they get the ball similar to what Rafa’s been doing recently..
Tear in the eye [snif]:
Bobby Charlton: This is your life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhjW2a7L3WE
Swedish Red
Thanks for your comments
I would like to remind you that the changes and strengthening of laws surrounding race issues are the tools which have made the world a better place, a little more open. NOT football organisations. I live in Sweden to my dissmay so I also see how it is seen and to a swede (those that I meet down the pub for football matches) couldnt give a fuck about the black players. In fact Sweden is a huge racist shit hole and you should know that. You just had a member of parliament caught for singing about “a little nigger village” at a dinner party just this week. I realise the Swedish propoganda machine has managed to make the world seem it is a nice and safe place to live but you tell me about the integration you have here. You tell me about hte free and open press you have here. Sure its free but ALL the journalists are too scared or too lazy to print anything that could make them work extra in the office when everyone else has gone home.
The Rio and Anton issue along with the Roberts and a few others has shown to me that its not even an issue worth considering. Theyre not interested then nor am I.
THIS WOULD BE SO GOOD NEWS.
http://whatculture.com/sport/man-utd-transfer-news-fergie-considering-32m-new-cristiano-ronaldo.php
Unfortunately one of my favourites Nani, liek yo uall are talking, is going hard times and for a 90% I believe he will leave after the season (it would be crazy to let him go in January, unless somebody offers 35-50million).
The guy who should be here is Iker Muniain, he would be our saint Iker and would fit in our new free flowing football system.
Rooney, Kagawa, RVP, Welbeck, Chicha, Valencia and Muniain would be one of the most devastating striking force ever.
What do you guys think?
Nani is reaching breaking point with the fans, the only way he is turning it back is to start performing, but he is not going to get game time if he only talks the walk. He came on in the 2nd half against Braga and didn’t do anything at all, couldn’t go past his man, didn’t put in a cross, alot of improvement is needed.
Maybe he is trying too hard, someone should tell him he should just get the simple stuff right first
@ FletchTHEMAN – Pep didnt just inherit a great team at Barca mate, he was a youth coach and then the Barca B manager before he took the top job. During that time he worked with most of the players who are now the first team and is actually credited for his role in nuturing all the young talent that came through in that period. When he became Barca head coach he brought through a lot of the players who were in his B team and he is also the person that many at Barca believe helped Messi reach his full potential. Also the tactics and formation Barca play now is his set up as it was in the youth and Barca B, Rijkaard’s tactics were different. For me he is the man that we should get to replace SAF simply for the fact he is about the youth coming through, Jose is hopeless at that as is Mankini.
Yeah Nani can be unmarkable on his day but also can be frustrating as hell and can give the ball away alot, Even rooney while he makes us tick can also be poor more so with short passing game.. Keane was great at that ,or scholes of course making simple passes and it s where the europeans can make us look silly, last night city kept giving it back to ajax who were able to retain possesion and then move it much more fluently.. oh if city dont get points fast then they wont even make europa:)
WeAreUnited
I couldnt agree more. What we need at Old Trafford is to bring in a young Spanish prospect that will learn to toughen up and get some good experience together before wanting to go to the club of his dreams when hes in his prime. Maybe he can take DeGea with him!
Ferguson has always had this fear of investing large amounts of money into South American superstars that have had little to no experience of European football in a top league. The reason they might not be able to adapt and its alot of money to chance. Surely this aproach should be adopted for the players coming from the sunnier side of Europe as they seem to always be drawn back to BArca or Madrid. They are essentially an even worse prospect for long term security. There are certainly no Giggs or Scholes to be had from the Iberian peninsula even if their skill is comparable.
@weareunited
Iker is a very good player who can really give defences the runaround. The only thing I’d be worried about is him adapting to the UK. He’s 20 years old and lives with his parents and is still a bit of a kid so
I could see him having problems settling in no matter who he signed for.
I always want to see us buy more spanish players. They are really class. The immediate name that comes to my mind who would fit at united is Isco. This malaga lad has been playing very well. We should try to sign him before the barca’s and madrids come calling.
We could also try tu buy 1 or 2 players from Bilbao. They are having a poor run this season. Still they have a lot of talented players. Need to put a bid for some players.
Goat.
Could I ask you ut where in Sweden you live? I’m not naive, I know racism exists, but the presence of racism is way bigger in smaller cities than say Stockholm.
Now, I’m black. So yes, I have been the target of racist slur, but its only happened once or twice. Calling Sweden “a racist shithole” is a bit much. If that’s your description of Sweden, then what’s about the rest of Europe?
If “football” isn’t the arena to expose problems in football where is, PMQ? I doubt those black and white lads were expecting to heal the world when they shunned the shirt. Im guessing they, like most people, just want proper punishment for players like John Terry and supporters like that monkey looking twat at Anfield – especially when they’re bang to rights.
But as a United supporter im just glad to see Rio put this one to bed, just like Ferguson set the record straight after whatever happened between them. The Ferdinand’s pretty much said FA throughout all the proceedings regarding their own situation. This statement is more than enough and it says a lot in a short space about a lot of things.
Once he retires he’ll have all the time to fight whatever he wants in football, and he’s been “hinting” at the racism he’s encountered for years. But until then Rio is still one of the best Centre Backs in Europe and we need him and Paddy back for Sunday. Im not surprised some believe he’s milking the situation, only mugs can’t see his mind is focused on all three points.
As supporters, we just need to back the lads to put in a performance at the Bridge we’ll all remember.
Ash, yeah I do see your point about wanting more spanish/spanish speaking players on our books as most times they bring something different to the party yet we must beware of their proclivity to be homesick especially in sunny manchester and to do a pique on us at the first opportunity they get.+ we have enough latinos on board already. Let’s just leave SAF to get on with what he knows and does best which is the identification,nurturing and responsible breaking in of promising young talent.
Is it not a wonderment how SAF’s prodigy is SAVING Mou’s butt. CR7 keeps Mou at madrid. Without him, madrid won’t even make the top 4 in la liga. Not with the likes of athletico, valencia,malaga and bilbao about. He is irreplaceable in the madrid setup. It pains me that the madrid captain Iker should select Sergio Ramos as his preferred choice for the golden ball. Atrocious. CR7, if you are reading this, you are welcome back home at OT where you belong. Bygone be bygone. Let’s rock and roll.
@Gee
Whilst not taking anything away from Pep. I don’t believe he should be first choice purely because he brought through young players. His transfer record is quite disasterous. Xavi & Inesta were already in the first team before he took over, and Messi was push forward because Ronaldinho started to fade away. It was like the stars just somehow aligned themselves together at the same time.
Like I said, Pep will only be rated after he manage another team, and do well at that, something Mourinho has done times & again. As it is now, I rate Klopp higher than Pep.
Swedish Red
I would never dream of discussing another country in Europe and what they have in terms of racism as I havent lived long enough in another country to form a balanced picture. Sweden is a terrible racist shit hole and it stems from more than just the things you hear in the press about the rough inner city areas. In Stockholm you have Rinkeby, Tensta, Hjulsta, Tumba, Botkyrka, Fittja, Hovsjö, Valsta just to name a few in the Stockholm region. Now these are seperate regions in a city of popultaion little over 1 million. This describes a situation of peoples widespread beliefs rather than seperate incidences and troubled areas.
In my reasoning Ive also taken into account the possibilities of imigrants getting work. As you know in order to get any job in Sweden you need to have a degree of education, even working in a shop the employer often asks for Gymnasium competence (Gymnasium school for the non Swede is 18, so you could say A-levels. to work in a fucking supermarket). Now if an imigrant wants to take Gymnasium he has to first be able to speak Swedish at a base level (approximately GCSE level) and this will take atleast three years where the student cannot get benefits as they are studying and not looking for work instead they wil lhave to take a student loan (CSN). This is set at around 6-7000 kronor a month (only term time). A standard rent in Stockholm covers all of that. Then when its time to take Gymnasium (A-levels) it takes around 3 years of further student loans and time. By this time the immigrant has picked up 200 000kr + in debt (18 000 pounds) he sees his friends that have done the same before him unemployed and he see the job prospects next to none. Educations such as Car Maintenance, Wood working and any of the crafts you’d expect that a person may have developed in their third and second world countries have all their education establishments outside the major towns. So any immigrant with a family has zero oppertunity to take such courses as he would have to support two homes if his extended family was unable to move. This is deliberate and planned by the social democrat party to keep a large group of people unemployed to keep inflation down. However this to me is racism. Yes you have given the people the ability to study and live but there is zero oppertunity for the individual to better himself and climb the ladder, more often than not get on the first run of the ladder, to get a job. There are only so many pizza bakers and taxi drivers needed.
I could go on my friend but this is a football forum. For your information I live out in the country as I hate meeting the locals and keep myself to myself.