Reports this evening suggest that Rio Ferdinand will miss out on the England squad for Euro 2012 despite enjoying a great season for United.
Ferdinand will be frustrated he’s put himself in the position where he’s allowed himself to be treated like this. England have taken to piss out of him too many times, yet he always seems willing to go back for more.
First they banned him for eight months for failing to attend a drugs test, despite refusing him to be tested half an hour later and acknowledging that he didn’t take drugs.
Then, after being awarded the England captaincy, he had it taken off him for no reason. The manager didn’t even meet with Rio to tell him of his decision to reinstate John Terry.
Since the last international tournament, when Terry had the captaincy stripped for having an affair with the mother of the children of England team mate, Wayne Bridge, Terry was again dismissed as captain after being charged with the racial abuse of Anton Ferdinand. Terry won’t captain England to Euro 2012 but it looks as though he will be in the squad.
It has been suggested that both Rio and Terry couldn’t go together, so instead of dropping Terry, Rio will lose out. Reports have indicated fitness concerns may be given as an excuse, however Rio has played 38 games this season compared to Terry’s 30.
From a United perspective, it is obviously great if Rio gets the summer off, but I do wish he would stop allowing England to humiliate him like this. He may well announce his international retirement, which now is akin to telling the bird that just dumped you that you didn’t want to be with her anyway, honest.
The team will be announced tomorrow at 1pm.
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One liner! brilliant
Unfortunate for Rio but great for United!
i’m happy for United but saddened for Rio who is very patriotic. This might be the best time to retire from international football Rio and concentrate on pro-longing your career which has showed signs of rapidly declining.
I always thought he’d be able to play at the highest level until he was 37 or 38 but injuries in recent times have curtailed this.
The more United players that manage to avoid the Euro’s the better, more rest and better prep for next season!
The decision to omit him is totally illogical to be fair to Rio. Terry has been piss poor this season, has got a poor reputation amongst his “chocolate coloured” friends within the squad.
Love to see all the “experts” saying Rio’s form’s declined and he’s had “injury problems” this season despite playing most of the season, don’t know where they get these fuckwits from.
GGMU
Feel sorry for Rio to be honest, missed out on the chance to captain England at the World Cup
His back problems are well documented and has probably brought about his omission
Good for United though, he can prolong his career here
Great news for Utd, he has been outstanding this season and we could do with a fit Rio for the start of the campaign. But if this is for the sake of taking that racist Twat Terry then the FA not for the first time should hang their heads in shame. I am no England Fan, but I can’t stand the thought of that cunt Terry playing.
Its because Rio is black. Simple as that. Could you imagine if he had banged that left back from City’s wife what would have happened to him? Oh well. At least he gets more playing time with us.
BajanBoy – Don’t be stupid.
Rio’s taken it up the butt again. As much as I love the guy, I don’t feel sorry for him. What’s it going to take to realize that he should quit that mob? He should have done so 3 years ago.
Second Rai
What the fuck is his skin colour got to do with it – he plays for the biggest club in world football – captaining them to CL and Premierships.
Stupid comment.
United > England = FACT
Roll on Rolls Royce Rio.
Rio is better out if it . Obviously Terry has a good set on contacts within the FA .
Patriotism or dignity in this case . Choose dignity . Fuck em . Only united matters .
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You see this is where I think everyone has got it wrong.
The FA wanted Gary
Gary asked SAF
SAF gave his blessing
Gary now ensures United look out by making sure Rio is a no go to stupid tournament
Well done stealth United – wait till we get to this time next year.
Terry, carrol and possibly downing will go to the euros.
As united fan im happy he might not go, but as a football fan this is fucking disgraceful.
We were here yesterday talking about Legends of this romantic club.
Harry Gregg is a Legend of Manchester United and will forever remain so.
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Goodnight United
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Rio should retire from England and focus on United. Terry as England’s ‘lionheart’ oh dear…
So yaya toures agent has came out and stated how he wants a new challenge and he could be leaving city. If your not too busy, cone join me pissing off some in denial city fans about it on the ‘manchester united – manchester city banter page’ on facebook
Hello MG – I hate it when people use skin colour as some sort of excuse – its childish.
Costas – I agree mate he should have told them to stick their fuckin England up their arse years ago. Surprised G Nev has joined them to be honest. Hope it doesn’t stop him being as honest in punditry. I wonder what he thinks about Rio’s omission
Good for us, feel sorry for Rio though. He deserves to be treated better.
In other news, Yaya Toures agent reportedly told Catalan media he wants to leave City? anyone know if theres any truth in it?
The only reason for Rio not going wud be his fitness.
With Gary on the coaching stuff , expect some common sense.
Roy Hodgson is a no fool, he will do ok.
Rio and Terry wud be going if fit.
this comment made on RedCafe by MUFCgal, on our game for Harry Gregg:
Not long back from the match, absolutely freezing I was.
Good match, atmosphere was just alright. We met Paddy Crerand before it. Dad asked him what did he think of the Tevez thing, and Paddy replied ‘I’d have stuck my toe between his legs’
Off topic …. but as a demonstration of our clubs class you need look no further than the squad they took over to Belfast tonight for Harry Gregg’s testimonal. Virtually every first team player turned out in a 4-1 win over an Irish LeagueXI. Sold out Windsor Park for an 80 y.o. Busby Babe and a Munich Hero who’s fallen a bit on hard times.
Can’t imagine City trash doing that three days after the end of a season.
Harry Gregg you are and always will be a legend in our eyes.
A True HERO, whose efforts, will never be far from my thoughts.
Runway mayhem didn’t stop you then.
Risking everything in order to save your men.
Your spirit and endeavour runs through this great club.
Goalkeeping warrior standing up tall.
Right till the end and catching the ball.
Emotional turmoil that you have been through.
Giving it your all for the good of the crew.
Goodnight Harry and Thank you.
I know it’s not ok to be on here as a United fan wanting England to do well but I am so bored with the anti-England thing as long as we have players and ex-players representing them at Euro 2012.
I wanna wish Gary Neville all the best and we all know Rio is on his last legs as a player cause his body just says no now. Good luck to all the other United players in various national sides playing at this championship. I think it wouldn’t hurt one bit if England did well for once cause the way we have beaten ourselves up over the years is just not right.
Having said all that England probably don’t stand a chance as Fergie have stated that the players give their all during the league season and can never find it in them to be up for these big championships in the summer.
Gutted for Rio, but more the point, WHY JOHN TERRY??
If England were to get anywhere in the tournament, what would Terry do in the biggest England game for years?
Knee someone in the arse and get sent off maybe? Or something like that?
And whilst we’re on the topic of hot heads what WILL cost England.
Let’s take Joey Barton, huh?
What a good idea
Oh dear me Woy
If Harry Gregg had been English, then he would have been knighted by now. The hero of Munich.
Now that is a fact.
Fck of city.
This is fucking bullshit. No ingurland fan by any means but absolutely gutted for Rio. He deserved to go to the Euros at least once in his career. If he doesn’t go he may as well call curtains on his international career.
I hope Bayern stuff chelski. john terry is a cunt.
Harry Gregg ! What A Man, What A Legend ….A Real Hero !
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Good for England that Rio is not going. He’s clearly shite and the likes of Terry, Cahill,Lesscott and Jones are miles ahead and more deserving of a spot playing all season unlike the injury prone Ferdinand, its a valid point he can’t play 3 times in 7 days, England don’t need him weighing them down, they can fly to the moon without him and celebrate with him later.
A England without Rio is more likely to win the Euro’s although they do alreadygo in as
Ma-hoo-sive favourites to win the tournament.
Dropping Rooney is a MUST, England need a permanent striker not one that is suspended for 2 games for being a twat in a friendly. Bring in Crouch, Defoe, Carroll and Sturridge. Welbeck is not even fit or scoring so fuck him.
In fact, if not for harry then there would be no man Utd. He was a god to the Stretty end during the 60′ s.
Red til I die.
I hear Mischa Richards and Kyle Walker miss out on Englands Euro squad. One Injured and the other dropped.
With Glen Johnson starting most likely
Like I said in the previous thread, the England set up contains lousy bums including Neville who’ll pick up a juicy pay cheque, nothing against Red Nev just feel he’s betraying common sense and any sense of being patriotic by joining that Klowns Klub.
Good luck Nev, even though you’ll achieve jack shit, not even Fergie could help those prehistoric baboons see sense in how football should be handled in this country.
I’d like to make a rather Odd suggestion.
Shouldn’t we mimic the City formation because they seem to have found the perfect balance with 2 strikers up front.
——Barry—– Toure —–
—Silva————- Nasri —-
————Tevez————–
————Aguero————-
Now assuming we sign Kagawa who is very much like a right footed (two footed) David Silva and Nani is similar if not better than Nasri, Carrick and Barry are well they have the same impact on their individual teams. Wouldn’t we look to Fletcher / Clev /Anderson / New-Signing to be our Yaya Toure or would we able to settle for the irresistible yet soon retiring Scholes?
I think a;
——–Carrick —- Scholes——
—-Nani —————Kagawa——
————–Rooney ————-
————-Welbeck—————
Would work for mimic – ing purposes only !
But if we could push Rooney to be the forward in the Aguero role and make a great signing to play in the Tevez/ former Rooney role such as a Eden Hazard, Lewandowski etc (random names) we wouldn’t necessarily need to bring in a Yaya type because we’d have a abundance of quality on the bench too.
It would definitely appeal to SAF in my opinion as he does love to ignore the central midfield issue whilst maintain the 4-4-2 tradition, however it is a flawed suggestion because that would mean the likes of Valencia, Young, Chicha and Welbeck would play 2nd fiddle to Kagawa & ????…..all hypothetical of course !
(City despite throwing cash have solved the 4-4-2 doesn’t work any-more conundrum but it relies heavily upon the passing of the team, quality of midfielders and strikers etc, it is not achievable with the likes of De Jong, Dzeko, Balotelli, A.Johnson so there is a high probability it would flop at United too.) Apologies for using City but they are the Champions of England
But its certainly something for thought…”no doubt about it”.
Good for United that Rio is not selected, but we have feel bad him. I suggest Rio come to Asia and get his back sorted out. Maybe a course of acupuncture is what he needs, followed by yoga and proper dispensation of rare Chinese herbs. We have nice spas and nice masseurs too! Work off your kinks and go back and help us win back the title from the noisy neighbours.
Thank god!!
But England will miss him, but that is not our concern
Good morning reds around the world..
If england has to win Euro or world cup then they have to bring young players and not the same oldies in Lampard, Gerrard, Terry And Rio. Terry should never be allowed to play for england. He doesn’t respect his country and neither the people of the country.
Germany, Spain and Holland are the favorites to win the tournament. Teams like Italy ,England, Farnce and Portugal have outside chance of winning but I will put my money on germany.
they love to harp on about ‘your country’ blah blah, its just the national football team not defending our shores against attack for fucks sake, its poxy internatinal football, fuck it off
Rio is ok, he’s cool. But Rafael, that boy should be shipped out immediately. Stupid arse. Never seems to learn. His lapses vs Everton cost us the title. I can’t believe some of us still luuuurrve him. stupid arse.
@Rai
Hi mate. There’s no logical explanation behind it either. Rio has played more gamed than Terry this season and is on better form. Maybe Hodgson fears that Rio can’t play twice in a week. Who knows? But I’d rather take that risk instead of cunt Terry attacking someone from behind and getting sent off again. Hodgson also kept Richards out, so I really don’t know what he’s thinking. Personally I rate the guy a lot.
As for Gaz, I said this yesterday, but I am starting to worry that we will be seeing him on the other side of the battle line. His connections with Sky and the FA are too strong for my liking.
Hasn’t Rio been part of the second best defence in the league and that without his main (and Utds best defender) defensive partner, must be doing something right. Anyway, I’m pleased for Utd, it’ll give us more players fresh and ready for the challenges of a new season. I wish the lads that go away with their respective countries the best of luck and hope they do well, but for me, I’d prefer if Utd didn’t have international players, especially English ones. I wonder what being away with the City lads will do for Rooney? He’ll probably hand in a transfer request.
The less MU players go to Euro, the better
Good Morning ROM!
Papii, Nice suggestion but you can jot it down that Sir Alex is never going to use it.
Whenever City used that formation, they had absolutely zero width and could easily be taken down. I am not sure whether you’ve seen that mind-blowing Gary Neville analysis of why that formation was the reason City went 8 pts behind us in the first place. It was absolutely brilliant, an incisive analysis of how City’s lack of width allowed opposition teams to focus on Silva and Nasri and curb their attacks, thereby stifling City. And I think they never had a plan B. That could’ve proved to be their greatest downfall had United not collapsed like we did.
I personally would never like us to move away from our traditional use of wingplay. It is one of the reasons I fell in love with United in the first place. And it is the main reason why I hate watching teams like Barcelona and City play. I am a bit old-school that way. Give me two fiery wingers supported by two equally fiery fullbacks taking on the opposition any day over close-controlled football.
However, you’re right in that 4-4-2 has proven to be one of our biggest drawbacks this season. And even when we played 4-3-3, we didn’t use our wingers that much. As Jeet said a few weeks back, Sir Alex isn’t going to move away from 4-4-2 in the PL that much. And that is fine, we can use 4-4-2 to murder any PL teams with pace and counterattacking football. Then use 4-3-3 or any of its variations in Europe. I am not sure how that is going to work on our squad as a whole and how we are going to use the various players at our disposal. We’ll have to see how that pans out in the summer.
@May 15, 2012 at 23:16 Mash says:
As united fan I’m happy he might not go, but as a football fan this is fucking disgraceful
That just about sums it up. Well said. Rio should definitely be there on merit. I honestly can’t understand the obsession the FA have with Terry. The man is poison but they can’t get enough of him. If I was Hodgson the first thing I would have done was tell Terry he wouldn’t be near the team while he was in charge.
deepest apologies for the above post,
dont know what happened,
was pasting Kagawa story and everything from my facebook account got pasted..
cheers
Thanks for that Balaji, wasn’t aware our Nev broke it down so well already !
However I will add say if Kagawa and Nani do play a Silva/Nasri role, I believe they would be better suited to that formation than the City lot because they have the work rate to track back, a quality city wingers don’t have and also Kagawa and Nani already know how to play out wide something only Nasri has in his game but Silva doesn’t.
I believe United could pull off this formation in the odd game or two but it would be heavily dependant on the players selected rather than anything else.
Did I mention that I fucking hate City?!?!?!?
@Clint: Definitely worth considering, though I tend to agree that its heavily dependent on whether the right players have the right roles. Also agree with Balaji on a lot of his (excellent) analysis. Neither Silva not Nasri are classic touchline hugging wingers – they operate more as inside forwards, typically running at the channel between fullback and center half. Not sure if that will work with our wingers – TonyV clearly no, Young and Nani very doubtful IMO. Kagawa could. So if you play narrow, then you have to give up your fullbacks’ attacking role since the opposition is going to stretch the play and exploit width. Wonder what our captain will think of that
I also wonder if you absolutely need a monster like yaya in the midfield, with that formation? Somebody who can dominate physically, because the narrow wingers are not tracking back, AND burst forward to score.
Net-net, defo worth thinking of, but my sense is that the transition is going to be difficult for a lot of very talented players we have within the existing system.
So, Garry Neville in the England coaching set up. Get some time under his belt and then one day becoming manager of United. Or Ole’s number two?
Did I mention I fucking hate city?!?!?!?
Is there any truth in the rumour that United are thinking of bringing in young Roy Keane from Nottingham Forest as Bryan Robson’s long term Successor?
I think he could be a good signing.
But what do I know?
I’ve been in a coma since 1993
Guys, anyone got highlight links to HarryG’s testimonial game?
Highlights to yesterday’s game..
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/manchester-united-4-league-of-ireland-xi-1-harry-greggs-testimonial-2/
Jeet,
Good afternoon mate,
Good afternoon reds around the world,
here is the link to the goals in the Legend’s testimonial game..
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/manchester-united-4-league-of-ireland-xi-1-harry-greggs-testimonial-2/
Panderi,
You beat me to it pal
Mancdub- sorry to here that , we did not get him he went to Blackburn and they went in to dominate the league for 20 years.?
Morning all
I feel gutted for Rio only because I know how much playing for England means to him, still great news from a United point of view…
Mike
You hate city? first I hear of it mate
Thanks, guys
What the hell why are people suggesting we mimic city?!? And why would we use kagawa as a wing player. For dortmund he plays great in a central role just behind the striker.
People are looking up to city as if they are the best team in the world now but the fact is if we had beaten them in the 2 derbys we would have finished 12 points clear of them. They are overpaid and think they are something special, wonder what their ego’s will be like once financial fair play tears apart half of their squad
Buzzing and anticipating us signing Kagawa.
Hope scenarios like Sahin for Madrid and City signing players just for the sake of not giving them to us and offloading them next season like Robben, VDV, Sneider etc not on the agenda.
He is Japanese and will come to us with best possible mentality as well as with the talent needed to bolster our midfield.
As for Rio feel gutted for him but it’s a good sign for us.
Rio – I hope that all your dreams are realised. Good luck and keep at it.
Mimic city?. You mean become classless ?.
Was at last night’s game in Belfast – best tonic ever for Sunday – extremely proud to be a red and be surrounded by reds from everywhere (about 98% of crowd were reds). I know it was only a friendly and all that but it was more about the reaction of our supporters and how the team must have been cheered up a bit by the support they received. A big mention to the group of lads from Manchester sat just to the left of me who sang the Manchester United Calypso non-stop for about 20 minutes – brilliant.
Fitting tribute to a gentleman and legend of our great club.
‘Champing at the bit’ for next season to start now.
Norman85- nice post . Glad to hear the supporters are already bouncing back .
Good banter too – I asked if this result left us three points clear with no games left – received a very good reception for that one
– seems that we don’t dwell on our defeats as much as some people revel in their successes.
Rio , ”The Patriot”! He will even sign up for war if England needs him. John Terry will get hurt while warming up for the first game. Guess who will get a phone call.
Norman
Difference is we have class, somethings can never be taught
Rio sorry you are heart broken. Big picture: Rest up so we can win the title with 93 points next season.