Jamie Kanwar from Liverpool Kop has interviewed me after yesterday’s defeat.
Jaimie Kanwar: What went wrong for United at Anfield?
Scott the Red: The first problem was the team selection. With Darren Fletcher out injured we needed some grit and fight in the centre of midfield, with Anderson could have provided us with. I can only assume Sir Alex Ferguson thought we were going to control the game with our passing from the centre of midfield but in games like these, you need someone to boss the midfield physically, something Anderson should be selected for when both Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves are unavailable.
Secondly, it’s hard to ignore the impact of the referee in the result. Despite dominating possession (57% according to Sky Sports) away from home we didn’t create enough clear cut chances to win the game, but the ref did play his part. The most obvious was the decision to just yellow card Carragher for his professional foul on Owen.
Vidic committed a similar foul on Gerrard last season, although he wasn’t the last man and Gerrard was far wider of the goal than Owen was, and was sent off for it, a decision which received no criticism from the media. Owen had beaten your defence was pace and had a good opportunity to equal the score – we were massively disadvantaged by that opportunity being taken away but Liverpool weren’t punished equally – Carragher should have been off, it was blatant.
Also, with half an hour played Carragher got his foot to a ball that Carrick was in possession of but he didn’t win it – it remained within Carrick’s path and had he not been brought down he would have been able to carry on in to the box.
Lucas committed nine fouls in the game and the referee gave him his ‘last warning’ with less than half an hour played – he shouldn’t have been on the pitch to pass to Ngog. Still, refereeing decisions come and go. Liverpool got them all on Sunday, I hope we’re as fortunate when we’re next on our travels, at Stamford Bridge!
Thirdly, we just weren’t clinical enough. Rooney and Valencia both had opportunities they should have scored and they didn’t. In tight games against your rivals you only get one or two good chances and we didn’t take ours, Liverpool did.
JK – That’s 3 games in a row in which United have comprehensively lost to Liverpool. What has changed? Why can’t United beat Liverpool anymore?
STR – It’s a strange one but I suppose these things happen in cycles. Before last season, Liverpool hadn’t even managed a goal against us in the league since 2004, and even that was a John O’Shea own goal! Last season was Liverpool’s best year since the last time they won the league, so it stands to reason they would finally get a result against us.
As for yesterday, like someone on my blog said, “when a fox chases a rabbit, the fox is running for his dinner, but the rabbit is running for his life!” Quite simply, Liverpool couldn’t afford to lose again yesterday. I’d argue against it being a “comprehensive” victory for Liverpool though.
United didn’t play very well and whilst still at home, Liverpool needed generous calls from the referee to keep all three points. We saw more of the ball and neither side had many clear cut chances – Torres took Liverpool’s, whilst Valencia saw his come back off the woodwork. There wasn’t a lot in it.
JK – Fernando Torres and Wayne Rooney: who is the better player?
STR – When looking at effectiveness in ways that we can measure unaffected by emotional bias, statistics, then Torres is the better player. Of course statistics don’t do justice to Rooney though considering he’s been forced out to the left for the past couple of seasons and has played second fiddle to Cristiano Ronaldo. In contrast, Torres has been the man at Liverpool with all play revolving around him, so it stands to reason he would score more goals.
But who would I rather have in my team? Without a doubt Wayne Rooney. It’s not just what he adds to the team in terms of goals and assists, but the winning mentality, the passion, the drive and the determination. That’s the emotional side of fans that look for more than just the stats.
JK – How do you rate much-maligned Liverpool pair Dirk Kuyt and Lucas Leiva?
STR – Speaking honestly, I don’t watch a lot of Liverpool games so don’t know much about Lucas from firsthand knowledge. I’ve seen his mistakes and caught highlights on MOTD and he doesn’t appear to be a dreadful player but he wouldn’t get close to the United team – Fletcher, Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Anderson and Hargreaves are all superior to him, which puts in to perspective how shallow Liverpool’s squad is in this position.
I’ve seen more of Kuyt over the years though and what he lacks in ability he almost makes up for in his work rate. He is a ‘trier’ and should be applauded for playing out of position to fit in to Benitez’s Liverpool but I don’t really rate him.
JK – Who do you see as United’s main challengers for the title this season?
STR – Chelsea. Arsenal have had a good start and they have great players but they don’t have the squad to win the league. Liverpool have the potential to go on a good run, with Gerrard, Torres and Benayoun all capable of making a massive difference, but as a team, don’t have the ability or mentality to win the title.
Chelsea have been there and done it before though, they will be boosted by the return of Michael Essien and Joe Cole this season and they have a manager who knows what he’s doing. Their best players are all a year older which works in our favour though.
JK – With lots of mistakes recently, Rio Ferdinand’s form has to be a concern. Are you worried he’s on a downward spiral?
STR – It’s too hard to judge really. He’s been in and out of the team with injury and just as soon as he gets a good number of games under his belt he gets injured again. He’s a great player but I do wonder whether all his off-field projects might have a negative on his game. But it really is just a case of wait and see.
Saying that, we made lots of mistakes defensively last season but seemed to get away with them more often than not. The 4-1 at Old Trafford was probably the first time all season that our opponents made us pay for our mistakes.
JK – No team has ever won the title 4 years in a row, either pre or post Premiership. With history clearly against you, do you think United can still win the title?
STR – No team had ever won The Treble. No team had ever won 11 titles in 17 years. As a club, clearly we enjoy and excel in achieving things no other club has been able to, so history certainly doesn’t make me question what we will win this season. It can’t be our expectation to win the title every season though, the English league is far too competitive, but we’re fortunate in that whilst we’re weaker this season, our title rivals are too, so I wouldn’t rule anything out for us.
JK – In which positions do you think United are *currently* superior to Liverpool?
STR – Defensively, the only position Liverpool are stronger than us in is right-back, with Neville past his best, O’Shea not really owning the position, and Wes Brown/Rafael still not recovered from injury. Van der Sar, Vidic, Rio and Evra and all better than Liverpool’s counterparts.
Carragher might have been able to give Rio a run for his money during any other season, given Rio’s lacking fitness and form, but by all accounts Carragher isn’t have the best year of his life either.
In the midfield Gerrard would get in to our team above our central midfield options, but I’d have Fletcher, Carrick, Anderson (and Hargreaves) over Mascherano, particularly this season.
Neither side have brilliant wingers but Giggs has been spot on this year (I dunno if he’s classed as a winger or not anymore though) and Valencia has just started to come in to his own but it’s really too early to judge. Is Kuyt classed as a winger? In terms of goals and assists he’s done better than Valencia over the course of the season so far.
Up front Torres has to get in the team and I suppose it would have to be at the expense of Berbatov, who I think is a fabulous player.
JK – Which is better: the United team of 1998-2001 or 2006-09?
STR – The starting XI of 98-01 was better than now but our squad is much better. Take the bench of the European Cup final 99 – Van Der Gouw, May, P Neville, Brown (had made sixteen league appearances ever for us), Greening (had made three league appearances ever for us), Solskjaer and Sheringham. Compare that with 08 – Kuszczak, O’Shea, Fletcher, Giggs, Anderson, Nani and Silvestre. Back in the 90’s it was all about the strongest XI but these days you have to have the strongest squad.
The midfield four of Giggs-Keane-Scholes-Beckham all at their peak is probably the best midfield you’ll ever see, but outside of them were just Butt, Blomqvist and Cruyff. Today’s midfield consists of Fletcher, Hargreaves, Scholes, Anderson, Nani, Giggs, Park and Valencia which doesn’t offer a better midfield four but collectively we have far more better quality options.
JK – Was Ferguson right to get rid of Jaap Stam?
STR – Sir Alex Ferguson says that was one of the biggest mistakes of his time at United so I guess he knows best. Stam did bring out a book calling our players cunts and claiming the manager told them to cheat in Europe, so I don’t think it was necessarily the end of the world that someone like that was no longer at the club!
He was 29 then and the following year we bought 23-year-old Rio, something we may otherwise have missed out on. He was a quality player with one of my favourite ever chants but everything happens for a reason and it’s not as if we’ve suffered too much without him.
JK – Are you worried that when Sir Alex Ferguson leaves, United will experience a decline similar to what Liverpool experienced when Kenny Dalglish left in 1991?
STR – At United we are fortunate to have so many former players involved at the club I imagine that will continue for some time. Sir Bobby Charlton, Solskjaer, Phelan, McClair and until recently, Bryan Robson all are still involved professionally with the club.
I imagine the likes of Giggs and Neville will stay on and Sir Alex will probably take up a role higher up within the club when he retires. In other words, we won’t be going cold turkey when our manager does finally retire and I imagine the philosophy of our club, in bringing through youth and playing attacking football, will continue regardless of who is in charge.
JK – Who are the contenders to take over from Ferguson when he eventually retires?
STR – I fancy Laurent Blanc for the job. He’s been great at Bordeaux and think he’d be worth a punt. Would honestly be gutted if we got Mourinho – people bang on about him having the ‘personality’ for the job, but I would rather someone to have the ability to do what we do at United. He was shocking in the transfer market, he wouldn’t know attacking football if it smacked him over the head and he’s never brought through young players.
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good read
Have to agree with you about the starting XI in 1998-2001 being stronger, though it was our bench that won the final for us in ’99!
I think if we can make a few key additions during the winter transfer window we will be more than capable of winning the league again. I know it’s been said millions of times, but I think Villa or Silva would be massive for us. It’s not as if we don’t have the money for either of them, especially if we can get a few quid for offloading Carrick to someone. Ribery is out of the question, especially if citeh or Real would be willing to spend near £100 million for him.
Hargo is coming back, Fletch won’t be injured, and Valencia is definitely coming of age. Villa/Silva would be the last component of what could be a potent midfield and surely bring us our fourth consecutive title.
A great Q&A, especially straight after our defeat. Nice one Scott. Seems to put everyhting back into perspective again. Agree with most the things you say, but unfortunately dont share you support for Berbatov. He simply doesn’t have the tools to lead our line. Classy, elegant but ultimately ineffective and judging by his displays against CSKA anf LFC, a real moaner especially towards his teammates. The only worrying aspect long term of our game yesterday is the hunger that LFC have shown against us consitently now, their pressing has made us nervous and cost us the points in all 3 defeats. Still I agree things come in cycles, and the positive is that all 3 previous results although hard to stomach, meant nothing in terms of silverware. Here’s to the cycle switching again in the CL final or a big game with a cup at the end of it.
STR — last paragraph about Blanc and Mourinho absolutely correct — as is the rest of the article. Good work, bro’
The problem with Blanc, is that he has no experience of managing in England. Mourniho ticks every box.
Is it so hard to OPEN YOUR MIND and understand that Berba has a head on his shoulders ? He is a thinker on the field of play. He isn’t moaning at this team-mates just because he is a Ronaldo type of a player. He wants them to understand his football and the way game has to be played in his head.
There are 2 variants. Either find the way to use the player or to “get rid of him”. Either of those variants doesn’t make him a moaner or a bad player.
Tufty – as we’ve talked about time and again, he doesn’t tick every box at all. He is a disaster in the transfer market, he doesn’t know how to play attacking football and he’s never brought through young players. You clearly don’t understand the boxes a United manager should be ticking if you think Mourinho ticks all of them! He ticks some of them, certainly, but all of them? How bizarre. Fancy such a lack of understanding from a fan who has gone to every game home and away since time began…
I don’t think people who go to the stadium nowadays have necessarily a better football knowledge.
Great, honest answers. And I agree about Mourinho as our manager would be a huge disaster (though it’s very likely to happen), but I wouldn’t take Blanc. I would rather have Cantona as manager and Ole as assistant manager. They too don’t haven’t any experience in managing in England, but I’d want them anyway. They’ve both played at the club and know it inside out and have the mentality that Fergie has carved into them as players. Ole as assistant manager = great tactics.
Does Cantona have a coaching badge?
Laurent Blanc, Laurent Blanc…
Have you guys ever watch Bordeaux play? THey are a very good french side but way too reliant on set pieces.
I get the impression that many united tfans think that:
“He won the league with his first season in charge so he must be good!”
Personally I thought that Marseilles were playing the better football under Gerets but Bordeaux just benefited from just a bit more luck to win ligue 1…
If Blanc came to United he would make the practice of set pieces of utmost importance, and we would lose some of the flamboyance of our play – some of which we’ve already lost in recent years…
Blanc is a very good manager but is a bit overrated imho.
Mourinho?
Maybe I’m going to be controversial here, but his major criticism is that he doesn’t have a culture to play youth team graduates. Well, to be fair Chelsea’s academy doesn’t begin to compare with ours so it wasn’t like they had very good players in reserves either… And with Abramovich’s millions burning holes is his pocket…
Great read Scott. I see the dippers are getting their delusions back anyway. The league is theirs this year.
Why oh why do people keep saying that Villa and Silva would make the difference? They wouldn’t fucking cut it in the Premier league. As someone said yesterday what the fuck did Villa do against us pre season? He didn’t get a sniff. With Fletch and Hargo to come in and Valencia starting to improve game by game along with the exciting prospect Orbertan and ljijac, United after xmas will be firing on all cylinders. Really hope Orbetan gets a run tomorrow at Oakwell. 6,000 reds making the trip .
Great interview Scott
i agree with you mostly but tbh i’d rather berba as a creative player than ladyboy, although he is a diving cunt he looks good and gives our defenders problems. berba is a world class talent and a must have in our team. i think that TNSSO is clueless about the philosophy of our club and would run it down. imagine in a few years what would happen to the da silva twins,Ctr Alt DeLeat, welbeck, kiko etc. he would jump ship anyway after a couple of years down the road. i’d rather o’neill or moyes as our managers. it’s just baffles me when the ABU media rave on about chelski and they have’nt played some great stuff. they’re cheats as well with rugby tackler tiny tears and diving drogba. i think there’s a chance we can win the league although it’s not going to be easy. let the dippers bask in glory before you know it fulham will do them this weekend and they’ll be back to square one i tell you.
guys is it me or did’nt anyone notice manunitedslagger2008 was’nt on this site on the weekend must’ve been watching the clusterfuck as usual. hope we bounce back this week starting with barnsley and blackburn. i’d like to see more of the free-flowing counter attacking football and killing off teams and i’m confident we will. we’ve shown glimpses of what we can do. We are United!!!:-)
King Eric, Obertan will definitely face Barnsley, SAF confirmed this on manutd.com. I think his ability in playing on both sides and through the middle is the answer to our midfield. I’d like to see him playing left wing tomorow, see how he does there. Can’t wait to see him play.
King Eric
i agree mate. villa and silva were made for la liga as their league is technical and tactical. they would’nt survive the free flowing fast paced english league. i mean even arshavin complained about the pace of the game after the 4 all draw at anfield he said he’s never run so much in his life playing football.
hope to see more of obertan seems very exciting.guys what happened to tosic really think the lad has to be given a run out on tuesday he plays well for Serbia and yet does’nt a chance to show how good he is. i know it’s not easy to get into the first team of the best team in the world but at least fergie can give him a run out against several mid table sides in the league. another point i’d like to put across is fergie please play BROWN i miss him bone crunching tackles!;-)
@hagreaves’ curly hair agree with u abt brown, o’shea seems too slow and personally our best super sub not a regular! Presently l don’t admire SAF’s job as it even diff to manager the team on football manager10. (lot of injustice as per playing time). We also lack that bite in MF yesterday. Anyone knows Gibson’s style of play? is he a ball winner or a passer?
For ladyboy’s goal yesterady, where were evra, oshea’, giggs, scholes and carrick? kuyt and torres seem too free, while our danger men were always closely marked by 2-3 players
Mourinho would be wrong for United..I’d rather Ole or Brucie..only that Brucie’s too pragmatic!
Nice article Scott..
Well, this transfer season Mourinho was the best around. Sold Ibra, got Lucio free, Eto’o free, signed Sneijder cheap and got 40 million. Not too bad. At all.
On Villa & Silva coming to United: It would be an awful decision to buy either one of them. They don’t have the pace or physique to play in the PL. Forlan, for example, is arguably a lot better than both of them (the top scorer in La Liga for many years in a row), but he did not really make an impact at United. Why? No pace or physique.
La Liga is a lesser league and Forlan, Villa & Silva can shine there, but not in the PL. Of course I have seen the wonderful things Villa &Silva do, but if you consider it’s against the worst teams in La Liga, it does not really mean anything. It is like 6th graders playing 1st graders and then trying to make them compete against 12th graders…. What did they accomplish when they visited Old Trafford? Absolutely nothing. Conversely, Ronaldo will definitely be the top scorer and best player in La Liga because he comes to the PL. He is the star in La Liga—because he played at United and in the PL. I think some people have a hidden agenda when they bring up Villa & Silva. Please stop! They are better fit at Lieverfool.
I do think SAF plans on bringing Biram Diouf from Molde in January. Diouf might make a huge impact. I hope Overtan can get fit quickly, so he can start on the left wing when Giggs is on rest—Nani has had several opportunities, but has disappointed everyone.
For me any our next manager has to have a won at the highest level. EPL AND chanpions league experiance/wins. When SAF retires i think its going to be a cricial time in our history its not going to be the right time to try a inexperianced manager or we could end up like Liverpool. I was always in favour of Martin o Neil but now i think it will be Mourniho. He has proven he can win and i think he can handle the big name players.
Please let’s not glorify that cunt Mourinho by talking about him. Back to yesterday, I thought we was disappointing in the final third and I don’t think Valencia had too much of the ball to cause them problems. The referee was a total cunt too, Carragher should have walked no question, no different to what Vida done to Gerrard last season at OT. The only consolation from yesterday was the fact that the others around us dropped points meaning not much ground was gained on us. People keep going on about what a great weekend it was for Chelsea, granted they are top, but it is only a 2 point gap, which is nothing with 28 games to play. Hopefully we will play better at Stamford Bridge in 2 weeks time and at least nick a draw. Hopefully we will have Hargreaves and Fletcher back then. Missed them badly yesterday.
For me ole has got to be the next united manager! He’s no experience but who cares the reserves play absolutly fantastic football, attacking the movements great, I love going watching them, great to watch!!
Just like i dont care who Michael owen played for before I dont give a fuck if Mourniho has managed everyone of our rivals. I want the best man for the job and if its him the thats fine with me. Never understood how people can suggest people like Ole or Keano being our next manager or even worse Keano AND Cantona. If we are going to go with someone who hasnt won the big competitions before then id go with Moyes or o’neil. I doubt Hargo will be back in two weeks time.
Fuck Mourinho the arrogant over rated cunt. Top manager yet ain’t won a single fucking game in Europe for over a year. Joker. Would rather take us not winning league for a few seasons under Ole than be managed by that twat. Got to be someone who understands the United way.
Belfast77 – It has nowt to do with him managing the Rentboys. Not fit to manage this great club.
I guess we are different kind of fans then casue i want us to win the league every fucking year. Maybe hes not the man for us but for the life of me i dont see how anybody who follows the game could want someone who has been a coach of a reserve team for less than a season to be our next manager. I’ll stand by my statement that whoever it is has to have been managed successfully at the highest level in club football. Id love nothing more than to have a ex player as our next manager but the fact is nobody has proven they are up for the job, thats just my opinion.
capello would be the right choice, he is very much like Ferguson and would continue Fergie’s work of showing who is boss….managing united requires someone who can stand the pressure not just a good coach or someone that understands football. i think someone like capello makes some sense.
King Eric.
Hi mate.i feel Mourinho IS the RIGHT man for the job.Here are the reasons why.
1.He is similar to Alex Ferguson.He is charismatic and does not hesitate to speak his mind out.Can have ago at refrees and hates FSW and arsene Wenger
2.Like Fergie he is a winner.He can instill winning mentality in the team and will be immediately respected by the players.
3.Tactically he is spot on.He gets it right most of the times.
4.Mourinho and his sides may not play the most attractive football but at the moment from the last year and a half neither are we.We are mostly just scraping past teams.Inter are playing some great stuff this year.hammering AC Milan 4-0 and then beating Genoa 5-0 away from home.
5.He also is giving young players a chance.Look at Balotelli and Santon who are both just 19 and very impressive.I rate Balotelli higher than Macheda(no disrespect to kiko).
6.He also has repalced their main man in ibrahimovic with the proper players in Sneijder and Etoo and they are playing better.Also a player like Walter Samuel who was a laughing stock at Real Madrid is now looking a world class defender.Mourihno can reinstill confidence in players .
7.Ole is not yet ready.I would love him to be Jose’s assistant and then after 6-8 years take over.He should the manager of United one day for sure but not yet.Yes Guardiola did it with Barca but give Ole time rather than putting so much pressure on him so early.
8.Steve Bruce is a good manager but has never managed a big enough club.To manage a club like United you need someone with experience of a top club because fans with not give the new manager too much time but immediately start comparing with Fergie and want immediate results.
Just my opinion.Hope i dont get slated for this.Also Jose has criticised all managers but always respected Fergie.Ther is a great friendship between the 2.Jose does not get along with any other manager.
Also guys another thing.
Evra was booked “very early” in the game where he shouldn’t. After than he looked like dissapear, I guess he was trying to avoid getting a red card. He becamse so inefficient with that. I know this was not intentional, but that hurt us too
Scott, I really rate your articles,but I have to disagree with you as far as Mourinho is concerned. He has achieved success in England, He is excellent tactically and not afraid to change things EARLY IN A GAME if things are not working.
He has expressed a desire to come to United, and God forbid that he goes to the scousers, becuase he will win the league with them.
aig – Morning mate. I take your points on board mate and do agree with some of them. However he ain’t “charasmatic” he is simply arrogant and full of his own self importance. Hammering the likes of Genoa means fuck all really. The Italian league and teams like that are shit. I keep harping on but if he is that good why has he not won in Europe for over a year?
However I do love the fact he hates the FSW!
Zunaid Ally – Mourinho would NOT win the league with the scousers. He would have the same players and no money. Why do people think he is some kind of saviour? If only Scholesy goal wasn’t wrongly disallowed we would never have heard of the cunt.
I remember when he used to sit there with Steve Clark and they would be both smirking and doing a little pals act together. Horrible arrogant, classless cunt.
The case for Ole is stronger than that for Mourinho…
First, Ole is a United Legend. He understands the United Way, and having sat at the feet of the Master (SAF) for so long something must have rubbed off on him. He also creates some beautiful attackin play wit the reserves, and most of the players will respect him..his status is legendary and he’s definitely gonna be an inspiration. Sorta like a Maradona with tactical knowledge..
Also, he’ll show loyalty..a word i think is unknown to Jose the Cunt. While he was Chelsea coach he was always defending his players regardless, but as soon as he left he started calling Drogba a diver. Such a man, attracted by millions to some other club (City?) would malign our players and management after leaving, which is inevitable for him. Would we want that? Besides, the fact that SAF is charismatic and outspoken doesn’t mean he is as controversial as Mou, who makes enemies every second..
@King Eric
good morning mate.Well he is arrogant but i also have to say thats what makes him special.he certainly has an impressive CV.As for Why he hasnt won in Europe? well it certainly isnt easy and was unfortunate in 2005 when they lost to dippers via the GHOST GOAL.he has led them to a couple of semis.At inter he dosent really have the team to win the CL although i am not writing them off this year.
@king eric and aig
Id like to throw roy hodgson name in to the mix wiv maybe ole as his number 2. He wud ave the respect of the players, plays a good brand of football and has the experience of working in the premiership thoughts please.
@willierednut
Really respect him as a manager but Fulham and United there is a vast difference.While he has also managed Inter in 1995 i still dont feel going for him.My choice would still be jose.Hodgson is 62 already and is not getting younger.But he is a good manager, no doubt about it.As i said the new manager will have to hit the ground running.The fans will give him no time at all to settle in.
@aig
Lets be honest there isn’t many options about for saf replacment. I feel roy hodgson wud be imo 1 of the condidates, we cud do a lot worse for a few years untill ole’s ready to step up.
@willierednut
There is no one who can replace SAF but IMO jose is the closest in terms of success and most of the qualities SAF has as i have mentioned in my first comment.Ole will be the manager but i would love to see him after 4-5 years
Why don’t we just stick with Sir Alex for another 5 years till Ole is ready?
Glory Glory Man Utd!
love the idea with mourinho the manager and ole the assistant…
i remember chelsea play fast counter attack in his first season…so defensive style with counter attack play quite similar to our style of play in this couple of year…
yeah he is arrogance…he got his style…
fergie arrogance too with his own style…its a psychological game nowaday…i dont mind this attitude a bit…both of them have winning mentality and mourinho can influence the mentality to ole if he the no 2…
ps: i dont mind and would love someday our manager sliding arrogancely in front other manager such FSW when we score the important goal…
hey…i dont think sir alex going nowhere after he retired…so someone can check and tweak the mourinho attitude when something goes wrong
Fascinating a interview with a Liverpool supporter metamorphsises into a Mourhino debate, interesting.