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Red Flag Flying High wonders whether we’re wasting Rooney’s talents.

Beautifully Red has the best moments from the derby in GIF form.

The official site has a webchat with Ashley Young and Danny Welbeck.

The Telegraph looks at Arsene Wenger’s worst buys for Arsenal.

The Guardian wants us to return to the days of the terraces.

See what Mancunia Merchandise has on offer this Christmas.

RoM has two tickets for the Newcastle game to give away.


 

20 Comments

  1. Rd54 says:

    Boring

  2. Sonneveld says:

    Kagawa back in training

  3. FletchTHEMAN says:

    It would be interesting to get the club view on standing areas. My understanding from people “in the know” is that United have little to no interest.

    I started going matches that had large standing areas and recall the great atmosphere. In those days, it was the area you could afford so most young fans headed there.
    The romantic in me generally likes the idea, but the pragmatic side tells me it won’t was as long as stadia are regularly sold out. I do well recall that stadia in the 80′s was not a place you took the wife and kids without careful thought about the opposition and an exit strategy well thought out.

    There has been alot discussion about standing areas.
    German teams use them very effectively and it contributes to a much better atmosphere. The systems used at Dortmund allow conversion to all seater stadia for events that require it, like WC and Euro matches.
    One of the hopes is that this could bring back more atmosphere to large stadia like OT. Which used to have incredible atmosphere back through the 80s and 90′s.

    Fans groups believe that standing areas could allow reduced pricing, but there is no
    real consensus on that.

    I can’t see OT wanting to host larger attendance as they really are at close to a sustainable maximum for the near term. Financially, standing areas seem to have little appeal to large clubs with good turn outs.

    The attached article from the Guardian doesn’t really talk about financial benefits. Other than potentially for cash strapped teams (Wigans Portsmouth) that just need to sustain a fan base.

  4. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Kagawa is back training according to Fergie. But this seems to still be limited training separated from the squad.

    There was no sight of him, or specific mention of him at open training today at Carrington.

  5. kanchelskis says:

    @Rd54

    Our hearts go out to you. I mean how dreadful for you, being forced to visit this website and read all these suggested articles and features. It must be terrible for you having literally no option, no choice, no control over the situation. Unlike all the rest of us, who can exercise basic free will and choose not to visit a given website.

    And then, on top of that, to be obliged to comment as well, even when you have nothing better to say than a one-word negative grunt.

    Stay strong. Hope you get through these tough times.

    You complete weapon.

  6. FletchTHEMAN says:

    A very good read on developing youth. By our very own former striker Micky O

    http://www.michaelowen.com/blog.html

  7. wayne says:

    Wenger overpays a lot of bums this shows how much money he wastes,crazy really could’ve kept all his top players instead of having bunch of deadwood making to much money.Below from a Gooner fan

    Sunday, November 4, 2012 at 2:58PM

    Last February, I gave estimated figures of Arsenal’s wage bill, citing the huge amount of money Wenger had wasted on (a) flops, and (b) overpaid youngsters he couldn’t get off the wage bill.

    My overall assessment was that, contrary to popular opinion, Arsenal’s failure to compete with the heavy spenders in the Premier League has nothing to do with how much money is available for Wenger to spend, rather how he chooses to spend the considerable resources made available to him.

    Yet, while the sum total of my wage bill estimate added up mathematically, the breakdown lacked accuracy and I’ve long been meaning to perfect it. So, armed with further information – and recent access to Arsenal’s full-year accounts, the below update should be a little more accurate an estimate of how Arsenal’s current £143.4m wage bill is made up.

    FIRST TEAM WAGE (pwk) WAGE (p/yr)
    Lukas Podolski £107,000 £5,564,000
    Tomas Rosicky £80,000 £4,160,000
    Per Mertesacker £80,000 £4,160,000
    Andrey Arshavin £78,000 £4,056,000
    Santi Carzorla £70,000 £3,640,000
    Mikel Arteta £70,000 £3,640,000
    Thomas Vermaelen £70,000 £3,640,000
    Theo Walcott £60,000 £3,120,000
    Olivier Giroud £60,000 £3,120,000
    Gervinho £60,000 £3,120,000
    Bacary Sagna £60,000 £3,120,000
    Marouane Chamakh £60,000 £3,120,000
    Andre Santos £60,000 £3,120,000
    Jack Wilshere £60,000 £3,120,000
    Abou Diaby £60,000 £3,120,000
    Denilson £60,000 £3,120,000
    Laurent Koscielny £60,000 £3,120,000
    Johan Djourou £50,000 £2,600,000
    Kieran Gibbs £50,000 £2,600,000
    Nicklas Bendtner £50,000 £2,600,000
    Sebastien Squillaci £50,000 £2,600,000
    Aaron Ramsey £50,000 £2,600,000
    Wojciech Szczesny £50,000 £2,600,000
    Lukasz Fabianski £50,000 £2,600,000
    Ju Young Park £50,000 £2,600,000
    Vito Mannone £30,000 £1,560,000
    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain £30,000 £1,560,000
    Carl Jenkinson £30,000 £1,560,000
    Emmanuel Frimpong £30,000 £1,560,000
    Francis Coquelin £30,000 £1,560,000
    Ryo Miyaichi £18,000 £936,000
    Ignasi Miquel £10,000 £520,000
    Joel Campbell £10,000 £520,000
    £90,636,000
    RESERVES
    Alex Iwobi £750 £39,000
    Alfred Mugabo £750 £39,000
    Anthony Jeffrey £750 £39,000
    Arinse Uade £750 £39,000
    Austin Lipman £750 £39,000
    Benik Afobe £750 £39,000
    Brandon Ormonde-Ottewill £750 £39,000
    Chuba Akpom £750 £39,000
    Chuks Aneke £750 £39,000
    Conor Henderson £750 £39,000
    Craig Eastmond £750 £39,000
    Damian Martinez £750 £39,000
    Daniel Boateng £750 £39,000
    Deyan Iliev £750 £39,000
    Elton Monteiro £750 £39,000
    Glen Kamara £750 £39,000
    Hector Bellerin £750 £39,000
    Nicholas Yennaris £750 £39,000
    Isaac Hayden £750 £39,000
    Jack Jebb £750 £39,000
    James Shea £750 £39,000
    Jernade Meade £750 £39,000
    Jon Toral £750 £39,000
    Jordan Wynter £750 £39,000
    Josh Rees £750 £39,000
    Josh Vickers £750 £39,000
    Kristoffer Olsson £750 £39,000
    Kyle Ebecilio £750 £39,000
    Leander Siemann £750 £39,000
    Martin Angha £750 £39,000
    Nigel Neita £750 £39,000
    Philip Roberts £750 £39,000
    Reice Charles-Cook £750 £39,000
    Samir Bihmoutine £750 £39,000
    Samuel Galindo £750 £39,000
    Sanchez Watt £750 £39,000
    Sead Hajrovic £750 £39,000
    Serge Gnabry £750 £39,000
    Tarum Dawkins £750 £39,000
    Thoma Eisfeld £750 £39,000
    Tom Dallison £750 £39,000
    Wellington £750 £39,000
    Zachari Fagan £750 £39,000
    Zak Ansah £750 £39,000
    £1,716,000
    FIRST TEAM STAFF
    Manager
    Arsène Wenger £135,000 £7,020,000
    Assistant to Manager
    Boro Primorac £7,500 £390,000
    Steve Bould £5,000 £260,000
    Coach
    Gerry Peyton £1,300 £67,600
    Neil Banfield £1,300 £67,600
    Tony Colbert £1,300 £67,600
    Tony Roberts £1,300 £67,600
    Paul Johnson £1,000 £52,000
    Marcus Svensson £1,000 £52,000
    James Collins £1,000 £52,000
    Ben Knapper £1,000 £52,000
    David Wales £1,000 £52,000
    Physio/Medical
    Colin Lewin £1,000 £52,000
    Gary O’Driscoll £1,000 £52,000
    Simon Harland £1,000 £52,000
    Kieran Hunt £1,000 £52,000
    Darren Page £1,000 £52,000
    Danny Flitter £1,000 £52,000
    Kit
    Vic Akers £600 £31,200
    Paul Akers £600 £31,200
    Scouting
    Steve Rowley (Chief) £1,000 £52,000
    Gilles Grimandi £600 £31,200
    Tony Banfield £600 £31,200
    Danny Karbassiyoon £600 £31,200
    Sandro Orlandelli £600 £31,200
    Pablo Budner £600 £31,200
    Everton Gushiken £600 £31,200
    Bobby Bennett £600 £31,200
    Francis Cagigao £600 £31,200
    Jurgen Kost £600 £31,200
    Peter Clarke £600 £31,200
    £8,938,800
    RESERVES STAFF
    Liam Brady £3,200 £166,400
    David Court £1,000 £52,000
    Roy Massey £1,000 £52,000
    Terry Burton £1,000 £52,000
    Steve Gatting £1,000 £52,000
    Lee Smelt £1,000 £52,000
    Carl Laraman £1,000 £52,000
    Steve Leonard £1,000 £52,000
    Craig Gant £1,000 £52,000
    Dennis Rockall £1,000 £52,000
    Lewis Manning £1,000 £52,000
    Richard Goddard £1,000 £52,000
    Alastair Thrush £1,000 £52,000
    Kwame Ampadu £1,000 £52,000
    £842,400
    BOARD
    Ivan Gazidis £39,423 £2,049,996
    Ken Friar OBE £10,980 £570,960
    Peter Hill-Wood £1,500 £67,000
    Stanley Kroenke £481 £25,000
    Sir Chips Keswick £480 £24,960
    £2,737,916
    OTHER COSTS
    Pension/social security £387,500 £20,150,000
    Player bonus pool £192,307 £10,000,000
    Peripheral staff £160,000 £8,320,000

    Total £2,756,771 £143,341,116

    (No

  8. Denton Davey says:

    Wayne @ 17:31: And here i thought that I was the “money for nothing, chicks for free” guy.

  9. dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:

    I agree with the Rooney article. To me, claims that rooney is Scholes successor in the middle are pure madness. This man is more than capable of hitting 40 goals a season wit hthe right service. why on earth would we take that and stick him in midfield? The simple solution is getting a storming world class midfielder. Push Rooney up to play alongside van Persie and watch the magic happen. what rooney did last week was just a taste of how dangerous that forward line could really be if we had a stable midfield. Kagawa and Anderson cannot come back soon enough.

  10. King Eric says:

    kanchelskis – Ha quality mate.

  11. Warwick says:

    Please don’t do the Poznam WHEN we score tomorrow.

  12. ididnotzeeit says:

    RVP = God’s GIF-T to United Fans

    His 1st touch is just utterly sublime. We lost a cult favorite in Berbatov but retained a player beloved by all in Van Persie. Thank you SAF.

    @ Dannysoya – 100% agree mate. For now, if Rooney has to, he’ll drop deep into CM but they could easily become the best/most devastating forward partnership in football today.

    3 points vs Sunderland, roll on United!!!

  13. Doghouse says:

    Getting tired of the waste of Rooney’s talent debate. That boy can play anywhere other than, probably, centre half and goalie. Any position in which he is played will cause people to lament the impact he could have potentially made from a different position. What we know for a fact is that moving him around keeps the opposition guessing.

  14. Costas says:

    Say what you will about Arshavin but he delivered the goods when we needed him lol. Those 4 goals at the shit hole were immense in that title race.

  15. mo says:

    nah wayne’s been phenomenal recently, his passing range is a joy to watch.

  16. drv3011 says:

    hello guys warm greetings from malaysia.i have been a man united supporter for 6 years (im 16 now) and i am an ardent follower of this blog.just wanted to say i was ecstatic with the derby win and i think our players put in their best performances yet in the game,especially ashley young.i hope he gets the chance to impress this season as he has been a nobody for most of his united career.i feel that before the city game our defence was woeful but we seemed to pick things up against the likes of time aguero,tevez and silva.city’s goals were just a case of being in the right place at the right imo.6 pts clear for now,lets see if newcastle can do us a favour and lets make it a 9 pt gap by the end of this week.

  17. Red Robin says:

    I agree with Red Flag Fflying High article. We better keep Rooney as a striker and occasional midfielder. It has to be in that order, not the other way around. If we look beyond Rooney, we will realise that we have so many players whom we changed their natural position. Alan Smith, Giggsy, even John Oshea and Garry Neville and most recently Kagawa and Welbeck. Except for Neville who himself change his position from midfielder to full back during youth, all of those players have high and low (which means unstable) performance with their unnatural position.

    With players natural position, this season we should play Rooney and RVP up front with Hernandez and Welbeck as supersubs. Kagawa play in the hole supporting the two strikers OR Cleverley/Ando play more deep as creative midfielders. Carrick and Fletcher play even deeper to balance the midfield.

    Formation 1:

    ————–Rooney RVP

    ——————Kagawa

    A Young/Nani—————- Valencia

    —————–Carrick/Fletcher

    Formation 2:

    ——————-Rooney RVP

    A Young/Nani—-Cleverley/Ando——-Valencia

    ——————-Carrick/Fletcher

  18. Red Robin says:

    I forgot to mention Phil Jones. He naturally is a central defender, but most of the time play as our right back or defensive midfielder.

  19. bayoRed says:

    Off topic. 29 September 2001. WhiteHart Lane United down 3-0 @ half time only to turn on the style in the second half and win 3-5. On the scoresheet Cole, Blanc, RvN, Becks and Juan Sebastian Veron. What a match watched it again last night and still got excited as if I was watching it live. We have come a long way with our Fergie!

  20. Dromole says:

    I feel we are due trashing a team massively. Tennis scores me saying here, and believe me, I’ld want us to start with effing sunderland and send ‘em fucking south. And would love to see ‘em dare do that poznan shit again when they are 6nil down at 90mins.

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