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LOL has anyone seen the United Quiz. Fergie trying to re-enact the Maradona hand of God is the single GREATEST moment of this year so far. Fucking hilarious.
I think That we should look at Willian (Shaktar) Isco (Maalaga) and Eriksen…we are good, but with two mid players we would be far better
proof is in the pudding about Bale being overrated 73 shots 9 goals=12% one assist
RVP 82 shots 17 goals =21% 6 assists
Javier Hernandez 30 shots 8 goals=27% 2 assists
Wayne Rooney 52 shots 7 goals=13% 7 assists
How the fuck is he considered to be approaching the best in the world category with those stats,all these tell me he’s a greedy cunt with a poor shot,his assist is abysmal considering he’s supposed to be a play maker,most overrated player in the prem imo
mara – why do we need another 10? We have Rooney, Kagawa and even Anderson played that position.
What we need is someone who can fight with Carrick for his place in the starting XI. I don’t even want to think of the day when Carrick is out for a month or two.
The best bet would be someone who isn’t shy of tackling and having a good range of passing.
Like the often named Strootman.
Dembele would have been the obvious solution, but we didn’t go for him.
Would love Witsel at United, but won’t happen anytime soon.
zelh @ 18:07: “What we need is someone who can fight with Carrick for his place in the starting XI. I don’t even want to think of the day when Carrick is out for a month or two.”
I totally agree – and let’s not forget that MC16 is going to turn 32 this year, too.
However, it’s not easy to replace a guy with Carrick’s portfolio of skills AND his ability to play almost every match.
I”ve only seen Strootman play in his national team and for them he’s a water-carrier who is actually less eye-catching than the under-rated Nigel De Jong. Another player whose profile is rising quickly is the Turkish/German, Ilkay Gundogan, who plays for Dortmund although he’s a bit of a “destroyer” rather than a “sweeper” like MC16.
off topic but Tony Pulis preaching about divers when his defenders have to be the dirtiest bunch in Football makes me laugh,at set plays those fuckers clutch,grab,shirt pull it’s a joke and what’s the difference still cheating hypocritical cunt
@ Wayne, too true. I have to say I absolutely despise stoke I think its a travesty that they are in the EPL to be honest. Horrible team with horrible fans would love to see them relegated. I mean hoenstly what is the point of having zero ambition other than year after year survival?
the three teams I wanna see relegated are QPR, Stoke and Liverpool. That would be excellent!
Denton Davey – united do need beefing up the engine room, all top united squads have had 3 CM players who all fight for 2 positions, 98/99 keane scholes butt, 2006/07 scholes carrick fletcher, today we only have 2 who are can play every week, the backups to carrick and cleverly are not great, anderson contimues to have fitness problems, scholes giggs are coming to an end, fletcher is out for the season, so its an area much like the defense, needs rebuilding
That’s taking the piss (Telegraph) Stevie me just beats Roo in leagues worst pen takers. Ha.
Also, Reports circulating that we have signed a 19yo Keeper.
If true, welcome to the club Dean!
Dean Santangelo (19yo) Augsburgh reserve keeper (formerly at Reading)
Augsburgh wiki pages says he is english, but another site said he was Swiss.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/dean-santangelo-says-he-s-on-his-way-to-sign-for-manchester-unite
“I love their songs” . Absolutely. Well said Spurs fan.
what a player…
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1598496_manchester-united-legend-giggs-snapped-with-the-same-person—20-years-apart
@Zelh i also think Kagawa need competition too…i agree that we need someone who can compete with Carrick and replace him one day. I wouldnt make Rooney as attacking mid player…even he can play that position. He is striker…
Willian can play left winger..
http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2013/1/18/3889270/shinji-kagawa-interiore
great read on Kagawa’s role, and how he should be used.
SAF on turning Kompany’s red card
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2013/01/18/3682817/sir-alex-ferguson-overturning-kompany-red-is-very-unusual?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_1
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GGMU!
I thought Willian came out to confess he is a Chelsea fan or something? Nvm, he is not what we need
The need for a player to compete with and subsequently replace Carrick has been talked about alot, but it is not going to be easy to replace him. His abilities are unique & such players are becoming a rarity. The generation of deep playmakers seems to be a dying breed
Marq
Why do we need to replace Carrick? He plays in such a possition where it doesnt take a huge need for fitness. He plays just in front of the back 4 and directs all coming traffic to the flanks.. Hes a zonal marker. I reckon he has a god 5 years left in him. Hes not exactly the old school box to box midfielder.
“Carrick has been absolutely magnificent,” said Ferguson.
“It is his best ever season at the club.
“He is completely in command of that position now. He has been absolutely brilliant.
“Even when he came on on Wednesday night he just settled us. He got a grip of the game immediately like good players do and eased us through the last 20 minutes.”
Have to agree with Fergie Carrick has been absolutely AWESOME for us this year. Former England coaches must be kicking themselves for having failed to see his usefulness.
@BayoRed
its still that way with the current coach.
@Goat
Carrick doesn’t need replacing right now, but I agree with Marq that we need an alternate. Carrick’s style of play prevents him from getting any muscle injuries, but that doesn’t mean he can’t get injured or ill. We are running a big risk by not having a direct replacement. Plus, who knows how long Carrick will keep playing at the peak of his powers?
http://talkofthedevils.com/video-mame-diouf-scores-long-range-overhead-kick/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=video-
zelh agree with you witsel would be great but no way zenit will let him go. i think lars bender is more likely
Bayored:
That is probably the reason he is as good as he is right now. No England loser mentality from getting spanked in countless of tournaments playing hoofball.
So Kagawa is now an ‘interiore’. What the fuck? I get sick and fucking tired of all these new bullshit terms. Also tactics and formations and diamonds and “false number 9s” and all that bollocks. Just saying.
Also I find it fucking laughable that just now Carrick is getting praise from all quarters. Tell us summat we don’t know. He has been top drawer since his arrival and was badly scapegoated for that night in Rome when he was playing with a broken toe.
Morning by the way!
@King Eric
Hi mate. At least it’s nice to know that some of us always knew what Carrick was capable of.
Costas – Hello mate. You well? Ha I know. I wasn’t actually meaning folk on here but the media in general. Here Costas just where is “Car BANG prick ” these days?
King Eric…i was not fan of Carrick…but thought he is good…and also suprised that now everybody s saying that he is great, and they knew he is good.
http://www.redmancunian.com/2013/01/19/picture-heartfelt-letter-from-sir-alex-ferguson/
A reminder on why we have the BEST MANAGER in the world =)
BBC reports Balotelli off to AC Milan. This begs the question: who will the sheiks bring in to replace him? I loved the turmoil that Balotelli brought – stability is one thing I don’t want in the bitter’s camp…
dirty harry
That brought a tear to my eye. Sir Alex is a wonderful man.
@King Eric
I am ok mate. Waiting for my semester to end and for me to catch a break. Hope everything’s good at the KE household!
I admire your memory. I had forgotten all about him. I can only think of two scenarios: a) He was institutionalized after Carrick proved him wrong for the last 14 months or b) He’s changed his username and he’s still around, pretending he was always pro Carrick.
@Goat
Did I say we need to replace Carrick immediately? I said subsequently. Yes Carrick can carry on for 5 more years, but does that mean we only find someone else after 5 years? What if he gets injured? If a new lad comes in and can take over him within 3 years, we should be happy about that. Having a good player on hand doesn’t mean you don’t have an eye for succession, and it is something that will take years.
Box to Box midfielder is a dying breed positions get separated now
Sir Alex must be saluted for his patience with his players. He sees their ability better than anyone. There was a time when Carrick was struggling because of trying to play carrying an Achilis injury. The critics were all over him but SAF knew why he paid millions (is it 16) for his man and stood by him. I dare say one day we will be saying the same about one Danny Welbeck. Provided SAF stays on or the next gaffer has as much patience as SAF with his players.
Am really glad for Carrick. His consistency has played a big part in our current position and long may he play. I wish all those who were loud in criticsm may be as loud in singing his deserved praise.
Michael Carrick has had a good season despite making a few individual errors that cost goals … but … when a team puts him under pressure he really struggles.
All you have to do is look at the Liverpool game. In the first half Liverpool stood off and let him play he was the best player but in the second they pressed and he didn’t get a kick.
Michael Carrick is at his best when he keeps the passes short and on the floor. He zips balls into the strikers feet through opposition midfields better than anyone in the PL.
Difficulty of bringing in a man to help Carrick out is to keep that player happy. If he doesnt get 20 games a season he will decay as a player – this is assuming you get a ready known big/biggish name. Then you have to make it up to Carrick. Carrick is such a player that can, due to his style, play nearly every match. Should he become injured we would surely try a youngster or allow Anderson to get some much needed time. Anderson may not play the same way but we would have to adapt our style to that, maybe Jones can fill in? It surely isnt worth paying an arm and a leg for cover.
wayne
“Jack of all trades master of none” turns proffesional footballer like on the continent. Atlast 3 years out of 4 in the champions league final, when did that ever happen before.
@King Eric i remember “carBANGrick” came about soon after THAT night in Rome. but, like most supporters, he can’t come out and say he was wrong. SAF knows what he’s doing, and bar a few, rare mistakes, has VERY good judgement on players. remember when everyone wanted Fletch out ? now look, we all want him back from injury and at the top of his game again !
either way, that’s the one thing i REALLY hate. fans want players to be loyal, to stay at their team and show they want to wear the shirt. yet, when they have players that they feel to be not good enough for them, they slate the shit out of them. even players who won the golden boot & helped us win 19 & only played half the season ! and even scored a hat trick against the scousers !! if that was rooney, he’d be labelled a legend right now, despite his ambitions !
fans need to learn that players are human, and slating players like gibson for next to no reason isn’t on. fans deem it alright to do what happened to gibson when he joined twitter, but think it’s highly disrespectful & highly unloyal if players decide they want to move ? bollocks. just like when fans dish out abuse to players all through a match, & when one of our boys scores a goal, chelski and citeh fans can’t handle our players celebrating so start throwing chairs and coins ?! pathetic really. this whole supporter mentality nowadays is.
that being said, that’s the best part of OT. we don’t have this disgraceful type of fan. and oh my, i can NOT wait for the madrid match ! the whole stadium is going to be BOUNCING ! atmosphere that you will NOT find anywhere else ! no plastics fags or anything ! i want to see the mosaic that the club bring out tbh, like “BELIEVE” against Barca a few years back :’)
anyways, sorry for going so far off topic, but yeah..
Daniel – There you go again. Please tell me in his 7 seasons which errors you mean? Possibly two. Olic against Bayern when a defender should have dealt with him and FA Cup semi when he was passed the ball in a horrible position. Fuck me talk about nitpicking. TWO mistakes which werent actually mistakes in seven years. Sell the cunt he is garbage! Oh and he will make the odd mistake seeing he is a holding midfielder. He rarely gets pressurised because he always picks up space. He keeps us ticking and a fucking blind man can see that. Look at Wednesady night. We couldnt keep ball, West Ham were all over us. On comes Carrick and the game changes in our favour again. Do you ever have owt decent to say?
Actually Daniel you DO praise Carrick BUT you say he has made some errors this season. When? Players arent robots pal, they DO make mistakes.
Daniel – You are just stating shit that loads of other clowns spout. Any fucking player would struggle when put under pressure. Carrick doesn’t actually, he ramains calm.
King Eric – on kagwa, there is no way he is going to play off a striker, as we have too much talent and raw talent in that position, and we are better playing 2 upfront, or 2 strikers plus a winger in a 433. But I do think kagwa should be used, like shitty use silva, or how zidane was used for madrid in 2003 on the left and has the ability to cut inside, kagwa can swap positions with young rooney and RVP in a fluent system, while carrick and cleverly hold, the front 4 can interchange, but for me, kagwa’s best position for united is used on the lef,t and always being the third CM but tucked in a 424, but cuts inside and heck being that little Midfield maestro
Yeah well done Fulham. A goal down after 5 fucking minutes.
I never doubted Carrick!!
http://www.thefalse9.com/2013/01/michael-carrick-brain-of-manchester.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFalse9+%28The+False+9%29
fergie is the boss
You got Kagawa mixed up with Park mate. They both eat dog no doubt but thats where the similarity ends
Goat Peticoat – kagwa can easily play that role, he has never played it enough at united
a bit off topic, but I don’t mind, freedom of speech.
@samuel
this is what you said
Isco munain.. Fucking hell, granted they’re all talented but united have enough young players coming through and wanting an opportunity, it’s not going to happen. Quit the buy everyone football manager game mentality. Deary me!
this was my response
cmon dude, it’s an effin opinion, AND IKER MUNIAIN would be a great answer.
which players coming???? if they come through, it’s not guaranteed that they make it.
Cmon dude, it’s not like it’s football manager, it’s one effin player. I would buy Iker Muniain at the age of 19 than waiting some players to pop up and shine our world, which rarely happens at the wings for us.
beckham comes in mind lately.. and it’s what 20 years since?
It’s not football manager. It’s being sane and reasonable. That’s a ridiculous statement from you who understands football. Was Kagawa a crazy buy? or do we wait someone to pop up?
So when people said buy Ronaldo at the age of 17, you would say:
No lets not buy him and wait for academy players.
Where are those academy players that would have made it without Ronaldo? Richardson? Eagles?? Not any did pop up, and is not popping up at the wings. IF Zaha comes, he would be one, but he’s not ours.
@samuel, does any winger pop in mind for you from our academy to be a star winger?? Maybe Januzaj, but he’s 15 or 16 or 17?
And don’t say it’s different with Ronaldo,
We know NOW that Ronaldo is a different class, but you wouldn’t know that he would become like he did. We knew he’d be great, but not that great.
And so many spanish talent coming through, so why not catch Iker Muniain at the age of 19, HE TORE US APART! TWICE!
cmon dude, be reasonable and don’t bring us down, soon as we mention one name. Nobody dismissing you.
Nani came here at the age of 19-20, where you against it?? or waiting for academy players to show up?
I think you got the picture.
I would be the first one to want a new David Beckham to play for us again, he was the reason I started rooting for ManUtd while watching him at the 1998 world-cup. So yes, of course I want academy players to show. But it’s not going to happen for wingers.
I know that Iker Muniain can play also as a AM, but he can play in the left and the right, imagine him and Kagawa switching positions also with Rooney there, and Nani at the right. Now tell does that sound good.
end of story.
Apart from United are no other teams going to take City on,fucks sake show some pride spineless tits.
This Fulham team at home should be a low hurdle really. The fact that Karagounis at 36 is a regular starter over there speaks volumes. One Berba isn’t enough. I’ll be extremely disappointed if we don’t beat them twice with ease.
Fulham’s away record is one of the worst you will ever see, so never expected them to come away anything.
@Goat
Yes, we can all depend on Anderson, let’s say Carrick gets injured this weekend, lets play Anderson then, oh wait, he is still out injured. Scholes is done, Fletcher is out indefinitely, Giggs no longer plays middle, that’s 3 bodies out of the CM contention. We are left with Cleverley & Anderson. Anderson is out most of the time, so that leaves Clev. So are we gonna play Clev & Tunni against City and Chelsea?
All is nice about keeping a player happy if he comes in. But fact is, if he can come in, and take Carrick’s spot, would it not be because he plays better? So should that not be a good thing? If we are only going to bring in a player who has no ambition to take Carrick’s spot, that player is better off staying where he is, we don’t need him. Whoever comes in, be it from outside or the academy, he must be hungry to take the spot, not for us to please him. We have paid an arm and leg for goalkeepers, defenders and strikers, when was the last time we spend big on a midfielder? Veron?
Just to make this clear, I am not saying Carrick needs to be replaced, I am saying there needs to be at least one more player in there fighting for the spot, especially now it is confirmed we wont see Fletcher anytime soon again. Tunni, however highly people rate him, is clearly not ready, same with Petrucci. We should be a club that waits for no one, except the select few, but clearly Anderson & Fletcher does not fall in to that group, yet. Fletcher, maybe, Anderson, if he doesn’t play much again this season, he is certainly on borrowed time, if he is not on that already
@Daniel
Since Scholes has scored a few own goals and red cards over the years, so yea while he is great, but lets criticize him anyway?
@marq
you said it man, I haven’t payed attention on your Carrick discussion, but it is how you put it.
Of course we shpuld get one midfielder more, it doesn’t hurt us to be overcrowed, the yare not our family, it’s a team we support.
If one of our favourite player doesn’t get a game or is transfered well it happens. United before players.
@ King Eric
I dont have an encyclopedic knowledge of individual errors but from recently memory.
- Carrick so pathetically weak for the turnover against Gerrard (I think) for Sturridges goal. Please dont blame Clevs pass, sure it was poor but Carrick HAS to be better.
- Against Reading was it where he was given the ball in 20 yards of space in front of the CB’s gets caught dwelling on the ball … costs a goal.
- Similar against Fulham if I remember correct. I was at the game so its not as clear as watching TV with replays.
The great pass to Yaya in the FA Cup Semi Final … but … that wasn’t this season.
The reading one could have been qpr.
I know for a fact he has been responsible for two goals one dwelling on the ball and one taking a poor touch just in front of the defense costing goals.
That’s isn’t counting the one against Liverpool which one of the weakest pieces of midfield play I have ever witnessed.
Bale is overrated ? … you are fucking insane wayne.
The guy has 9 goals in 19 games in the PL. You fucking muppet.
He would walk into our team every week.
@King Eric
Remember that scenario B I was talking about?
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBRE90I0H020130119?irpc=932
I find it funny that people pay to watch United, only to spend the 90 minutes find and highlighting a single mistake from a player. That is like going to the movies to watch a blockbuster and spending all your time inside trying to find that one mistake the director made and escaped the editing.
Such torture some people put themselves into…
@Marq yeh i see that all through life everywhere i call it ‘attempted self elevation’
people are dicks on the whole