After a frustrating final few months with United, Cristiano Ronaldo finally left for Real Madrid. RoM had become weary with the Ronnie’s antics, with it becoming blatantly obvious that our star man was ready for a move to Spain.
We made our peace when a fee had been agreed and to his credit, he has had nothing but great things to say about our club in the press since leaving.
Today, Ronaldo has again claimed that only God knows his future… but implies that returning to United is a possibility when his contract at Real Madrid expires.
“Of course I miss playing for Manchester United,” Ronaldo said. “I played there for six years and that’s a long time. I am still interested in watching Manchester United and, you never know, maybe in the future I could return to play there. It’s always possible. I want to fulfil my contract here but, in the future, only God knows. I will not say I am not happy here at Real Madrid. I am really happy and everyone knows this is my club but, of course, I miss Manchester United, the boss, the players, because I left family there.”
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so when’s his current contract expire?
U cnt deny the fact Ron.. U were born to be a Red Devil
Hahaha..it was only a matter of time. I’m guessing the Madrid fans are feeling what we were feeling.
Where have I heard this before. He saw maybe he’ll return, who say’s were willing to accept god’s ask?
Ronaldo went to Madrid, but his soul remained in Manchester!
He is saying it mainly because Real Madrid still seems uncertain about the long term future. I get the feeling he will have a frustrating tenure in Madrid playing second fiddle to a more robust and focused FC Barcelona. I could be wrong though.
I wonder if God knows what colour of underwear Ronaldo will wear tomorrow.
@dre
I think he signed a 6 year contract with Real.
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hes on contract till 2015 lol, cya in 5 years ronaldo
we dont want this cake. his history.
@ Costas LOL
On a serious note, I wish if God knew who would replace the greatest manager in the world. Then probably God would tell us where Ronaldo, Rooney et all would finish with their careers with us or elsewhere
Who is this kid
slightly strange. real is HIS club but he misses hundred people in Manchester. as i said i miss him too but don’t think he will come back. what’s done is done. he chose his destiny.
HEHEHEHEHE….
he is missing man.united but man.united doesnt missing him…
This god started to annoy me . And i guess he”ll be wearing a pink underwear with guti”s picture on it
Great player when he plays got pissed off with his antics tho. It might of been his childhood dream to play for Madrid but he now realises what he left behind like all who leave us.
Have him back as cover for Valencia/ Nani.
I think it was always a case of :”The grass is always greener..” As for God I hope he is preoccupying himself with ridding us of The Glazers.
We couldnt afford him…
I honestly was thinking last night that he doesnt look like he is enjoying himself at Madrid and knew it wouldnt be long before he came with a statement like this.
When you build something up so big it can often not live up to expectation. He grew at United so it was a better transformation and relationship with the fans as we watched him grow. It is a different ball game when you have a price tag above your head. look at poor Berba!!!
I was glad when he left as I was sick of listening to his comments and reading his silly expliots in the paper trying to manufacture a move.
I am glad he played for us though as for them six years, four of which he was just a different gravy.
@Satz13
That’s the million dollar question. I hope that some planning has already begun about this. Sir Alex is probably 18 months away from retirement now.
no-one better on their day , but without him we seem to be a stronger unit as a whole , im happy with how things are working out , could still do with a player of his calibre to take the heat of rooney , that would be my ask in the summer , off topic anyone else heard about that cunt bellamy getting punched in the head by a utd fan , haha , give the lad a knighthood !!!
@giggs11gerrard0
From a playing sense, I don’t think he will ever justify 80 million pounds. That’s crazy money. But I am sure that from a marketing perspective he has already done it.
However, what exactly does he miss at United? The fans? No doubt. The boss? Definitely. Team spirit? Surely. The fact that he was king here? I think he misses the latter more than anything. Ronaldo has a big ego and that’s the main reason why he is the player he is in my opinion. However, if in an ideal world, United could buy him back, would the team revolve around him again? Tough to say.
I think he finally realised he wont be winning a trophy lol
Costas,
Agree mate his arrogance personafies his ability, it makes him the player he is.
Would I have him back at Old Trafford? IMHO no and I say this for a few reasons!
1 – We got 80 mil so great business so no need to use it to get him back
2 – He wanted to leave as he beleived there was someting bigger than United.
3 – His slavary comments were a joke
4 – Celebrating on his own in Moscow just showed he was not about Manchester United he was about Cristiano Ronaldo.
Love him as a player, ability I have never witnessed anywhere else but we have moved on now! Rooney is ridiculous this year and will get better next. I just hope we dont make him captain though, too much focus.
I will welcome the lad back any day. He is something else, he pretty much got it all. It would be sad though if he come back and play for us and he’s just a shadow of his former self, although he would still be better than most I guess.
@giggs11gerrard0
Agreed about Rooney. That’s why I feel that Evra or Fletch might be better options.
I see what you mean about Ronaldo and how he exited. Unfortunately, that’s part and parcel of today’s footballers. They will do everything they can to get a transfer. Ronaldo’s attitude since he left is indicative of that. He is still very fond of the club, but he had to act like that in his last 12 months as a United player because that was business. It is pretty frustrating, but if we are ever going to remember footballers of this day and age fondly, we will have to accept that.
For me, the Ronaldo era at United is over for good. Rooney is having an awesome season and the likes of Valencia and Nani can only get better.
fergie would have him back in a heartbeat all the things he says about him more so than any other player that he ever let go.
if fergie would, I would.
we seem to be getting alot of love from ex players lately get him on a free in 5 yrs put him at 30 its possible
Yawn. Bore off Ronnie.
He looked pretty happy dancing around like a cunt last night with Kaka and his Galactico crew.
I’m happy to hear but i don’t want him to come back anymore. He choose his dream club and he think that there is nothing more to win at our club which is why he wants to go challenge other challenges. He left this wonderful club and if he wants to come back one day, i don’t think we must buy him. Once you leave United, you won’t be back anymore.
@@giggs11gerrard0
Agree with Rooney captains. I think we should make our defense player captain. Defense is important in every sports. If your attacker is captain and don’t play well, the whole team suffers. If the defense player is captain and he don’t play well, there could be more covers for him in defense which won’t affect the team too much than on attackers
I hope fletcher is captain if Rio, Giggs, Nevill doesn’t play. If not Evra is a good choice given that he plays the most league game and being so consistent.
I think he needs to wind his neck in as it seems like he can’t get enough of talking about other clubs. If he doesn’t mend his ways he could end up spending his career bouncing between rich clubs like a second rate Beckham. I say second rate Beckham because at least Beckham has a solid work ethic.
The comments in the two links are excellent to see. The ones after his departure was confirmed. People working out how we can spend the money. Plenty of Ribery’s and Benzema’s. Looks like Fergie may have done it once more!
I notice I commented at the time that the dippers were calling talkshite saying WE were finished. Oh the irony.
Doghouse – I think its a bit unfair to slate his work ethic. Always puts his all in.
I’m fond of the lad.he’s not exactly a club legend but was a phoneminal player.i fondly recall his awesome free kicks, his dribbling,his winning,his ego; basically everything he did screamed one thing:ATTENTION.i liked it coz he kinda made us a threat to all other teams.he might have rubbed quite a number of fans’ shoulders the wrong way with his antics last year to engineer a move but i still adore him.i still retain a large potrait of his in my living room & i occassionally wallpaper my phone with his grin! One thing i’m proud of is that he won his world player of the year while at United-the only premiership club in history to claim such a feat.I WOULD WELCOME HIM WITH OPEN ARMS ANY DAY.
*whinning*
fans will be fans, ever so opinionated. recognise quality period.
I wonder what his get-out-clause is? Because if its a feasable amount I believe Alec would break the bank to bring him back before his 6 year contract is finished. After all, if its 100 Million that just means we’ll be spending 20 Million to get him back. But who knows? Maybe he might return to finish his career with us, but I wouldn’t rule out a return before then. I never thought he’d be happy with La Fascists, because regardless of who they bought I couldn’t see Barcelona suddenly becoming shit. Madrid won’t get control of La Liga for a very long time, and we all know anything can happen in the CL… so I wouldn’t be surprised if he returned sooner rather then later. Alec and Ronnie would have spoken about this situation many times before he left. Madrid have no class, THEY PROMISE TITLES TO FANS AND BLAME FAILURE ON MANAGERS AND STAR PLAYERS. Even the great Raul isn’t immune from criticism, and the knives are already out for Ronaldo, and heaven forbid he inherits the number 7 shirt. The worst case scenario will be if they fail to win any Silverware this year, as Ronaldo will then begin his decent into Enemigo Publico Numero Uno lol – watch this space mate, his dream was destined to turn sour. I want to know how much his get-out-clause is.
Lol, I still laugh at Scott’s line from the time. He was a tosser, but he was our tosser.
@Costas. Yea he was our tosser !
Bid £80m for him I say!
I know he´s worth it.
Costas Said,February 14th, 2010 @13:00
Lol, I still laugh at Scott’s line from the time. He was a tosser, but he was our tosser.
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Hahahaha !!!
Welcome back anytime ron.
He also said
‘rooney hasnt become a great player because i left,he has always been a great player’
I still love Ronaldo. He helped us win alot of silverware and he hasn’t acted liked that cunt Tevez. Ronny has always been respectful of the club after leaving. I’d take him back in a heartbeat but I think we are more than brilliant without him.
sorry ronnie you were a legend but Wazza os the star of man united now.
I do not know if this guy will ever return to United but I can definitely say he will not be at Madrid for more than 3 years…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUsWwUEMQs8
This guy has been immaculate for us over e years. Every time when we needed some magic to unlock matches, we secretly pray for ronnie cos we all knew this guy has e qualities. No doubt he is rarely missed due to Wazza’s extraordinary form. All I have to say is this guy has benefitted from the academy of Manchester United. Whereva he goes,he’ll never get to taste e education Man United has provided..I deeply hope one day this guy will return to us to further his education cos he has realised THERE’S ONLY ONE UNITED!!
I would have Ronnie back without a doubt, he was nothing but quality for us and he is still quality (even tho he was a tit sometimes). You cant just hate the lad for chasing his dream, you have to remember what he did while he was ours!! I remember big Jaap Stam saying how it was his dream to join us, do you think PSV fans were happy with that and considering he was Dutch to boot!! The fact is Ronnie wasnt English, if he was he would have realised what he is realising now, Utd is in his soul. Thats why El Blanco Pele never wants to leave us!! Imagine what Rooney now reaching his full potential and potential to get even better and Ronnie would do to the rest of the football world, fuck me they were brilliant together before Ronnie left!!
At least Ronnie still respects our beloved club and realises that if not because of Manchester United he would not be where he is today. Not like that short ugly cunt Tevez who bloody well is a mercenary. Someone should also punch his face in like a fan of ours did to Bellamy. HAHAHA!! Fuckin’ A!!
@Red Typhoon,
I agree. For all the vitriol Tevez has generated, Ronnie has been the exact opposite.
Tevez should think about whether he would’ve even got an offer from Shitty if he was still scraping it at the bottom with West Ham. The cunt.
I am of the opinion that Ronaldo is the best player in the world BUT I wouldnt be too happy if we brought him back. Of course our fortunes would improve a little on the pitch, that goes without saying BUT it starts something else which creates more of a problem than it solves. It would give the message that you can try another club and if it doesn’r work out for you, for whatever reason, you can always come back. It belittles Manchester United.
Im not anti Ronaldo, I watch for his scoring knowing that he has been given the chance to pit himself against Kaka, Messi, Ibrahimovich in a fair race to show his talents and it shows that he is heads and tails over the nearest player. It gives me great pride to know that we helped with that. Sir Alex isn’t just a tactician or manager, he is a friend, he understands people, he doesn’t take any sillys and he knows when to say goodbye. Those last points make Sir Alex that one notch better than the next best manager. To go against that by bringing him back just for short term gain would revert all hes done to a lower level.
Thank you Ronaldo and good luck son.
@Red Typhoon
A united fan punched Bellamy I never heard about that, is there a pic going, you tube anything. There is nothing I’d rather have as a mouse mat than that cunt with a facefull of digits.
@ paul parker. his buyout clause is 1 billion euros! i dont think we’ll be breaking his contract haha
wonderful player.Unfortunately his time with us has come and gone but boy was he something to look back on.
He will spend most part of his career at Madrid.This I can say without hesitation or doubt.
I wouldn’t have him back in a “heartbeat”". Thought he was bigger than UNited. He has made his bed.
Not doubting his talent though.
giggs11gerrard) @ : “1 – We got 80 mil so great business so no need to use it to get him back”
I’d take CR in a heart-beat – in exchange for VIdic and Berbatov. But it will never happen because of the economics of his contract.
Forget about this stuff concerning his “dream club” – this kid is as good as he thinks himself to be !
God only knows the 11 he’s going to pick for the Milan game and nothing else. After all, it was God who sold him to RM, and now God has Wayne Rooney to play for Him. And Darren Fletcher. And Antonio Valencia. And Ryan Giggs.
On a free transfer when he’s 30? I’d take him. Lower his wages though, by then they’ll be (reportedly) £557,000 a week thanks to the 25% increase he gets every year.
Dear oh dear. I was about to post an ironic message about us “breaking the bank” to re-sign him and lo-and-behold Paul Parker beat me to it, albeit without the irony.
There’s no doubt that with that huge “war chest”* at our disposal we’ll have no trouble getting Ronnie or any other superstar we fancy this summer. Remember, we can have “any player we want” with just one phone call, according to David Gill (and as Paul Parker will tell you, Gill never lies.)
*Breakdown of Fergie’s “war chest” -
£80m from Ronaldo sale
+ £25m saved on Tevez
+ £20m yearly transfer budget
+ £25m reserved for “marquee signing”
+ £20m from sale of Vidic
Now will everyone please stop with these chants about Glazer? It’s mean!
News Flash ! News Flash !
The Times of London is now reporting that the muppets at Eastlands are preparing to break the bank to embarass UTD by signing Nemanja Vidic. Apparently, they are constructing some sort of geodisic dome so that Mrs Vidic will always be in the sunshine, too.
Damn, that means the Ronaldo for Berbatov + Vidic swap can’t occur unless SAF pulls his finger out.
A great great player and no mistake. However he made a fucking mug out of United fans, me included , in his last days. Just one example is the “self interview” the DAY of the European Cup Final. Despite how good he was all that left a taste in my mouth. All the fans that sang “Viva Ronaldo” after the World Cup debacle as well standing by him. I therefore find it strange that people are so willing to forget all that. As I said he thought he was bigger than United.
Oh god. Even the Glazer debate comes on here now.
denton – I know mate, what a joke. I posted about this on a previous thread last night. So those idiots at the Boo camp think that by getting Tevez and Vidic they are gonna take their place at the “top table”. They are woeful. You only had to watch their last 3 or 4 games under Mancini the suave cunt. No pace or tempo. They will go out the cup at Stoke and then what? Hilarious actually.
Real Madrid is the only place big enough for his ego!
… only kidding, of course you are welcome back anytime ronny …
never expected cr9 to say such things.i actually thought tevez would talk like that but its turned out to be exact opposite.if ever real play at old trafford cr9 should get a hero’s welcome because atleast he has not forgotten what this club has given him unlike tevez!!!
I see what many people mean by blaming his antics in the summer of 2008 but a few points must be considered.
Firstly he was NEVER going to stay at United throughout his career. He had always said he wanted to play in Spain one day.
Secondly,he had a chance to run away from United after that incident in WC 2006. He stayed back,faced it and showed his class leading United to where it should be, winning trophies.
Thirdly he could have left in 2007 as well but he always said he would not leave United till he wins the Champions League with us. Only after that happened he said he wanted to leave. Fair enough, we should have let him go that time.
Finally it was crystal clear that when he was saying he does not want to leave United last season it was only so that he and the club could concentrate on our football. He was always going to leave at the end of the season.
Thanks but no thanks Ronnie, fantastic player but u had your time and you gave it up for the fascist dream
Joe Cole, anyone?
warwick- Cole is nowhere near Ronaldo as a player.
I’m indifferent towards Ronnie really, because I don’t dislike him, nor do I like him. I have fond memories of his time at United, but that’s all they are.
I looked over that link of last year that scott sent because I was not a poster of the site at that time I did not even know then it existed,
did gotta hate tiny tears was called gotta hate tiny tevez.
but people forget ronaldo was a benfica fan growing up has a kid many assume ronaldo is a madrid fan when its now proven he is not. but I still find it strange why ronaldo has come out with comments like that, but like I say he will not be returning any time soon.
I dont know why people are going barmy over ronaldos teasing comments. I thought some fans on here were smarter than that, than getting suckered into his comments he may return when the chances of ronaldo returning is has far fetched has jesus coming to town getting pissed and strip naked running around town saying DOWN WITH GOD.
like my saying goes on here down with madrid
I think the reason for him saying this is to make the Madrid hierarchy consider a more lucrative contract to offer him in the future. I’ve seen him play for Madrid a couple times this season and although he’s scoring goals, his role in the team is a lot less significant than when he was here. While he was here, he would impose himself on the game not just by scoring but also through possession especially when moving forward. At Madrid, in the games I’ve seen him play, he has little possession and he drops back more often to try to get some possession. He’s obviously still an attacking threat though but when he was at United, his role in the team was similar to that of Messi to Barcelona. At Madrid, there are too many superstars for a player like Ronaldo to make an impact on the team to the same extent as Messi to Barca.
DarkDevil – because they have alot of players who can turn a game on their own. at united when ronaldo was commited to the cause he had team players but those team players could also win a match on their own, the likes of scholes giggs rooney tevez but they were team players also.
Nice comment. I think it’s more a matter of politeness to english press than anything.
Lets all be honest here… I would do the same as Ronaldo if we started to earn approx a mil a week in your final year of contract.
the grass is always greener, ronnie son. once a red always a red.
When I Was A Boy I Also Dreamed Of Joining The Circus I wanted to be the Tightrope Walker But I Didnt Follow My Dream And I Think If I Joined The Circus Id Be Feeling The Same As Ronaldo Is Now.
I was on the redcafe site and this link came up, a united fan watched sunday supplement and they pridicted chelsea will win the treble well one of them said they would. now can someone tell me what are they smoking no serious are they on serious crack. have they forgoten cole is out of months, their side is ageing. Is it me or is every time chelsea have a bad result the media seem even more convinced that they will win everything, the chelsea side of 09/10 season will go down in history has the most oevrhyped and overated side in the game. And the only 2 reasons they are top is uniteds squad is weaker than last season. And united are light upfront are the reasons why chelsea even have a chance.
http://www.redcafe.net/f7/chelsea-do-treble-285995/
Lol @ Fred, your infatuated mate!
they’ve got internet stalking laws for people like you. Its becoming Paul Parker this, Paul Parker that, I wasn’t even aware I was on your “radar” till you started vying for my attention… Seriously mate, no means NO.
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Back to the FOOTBALL, Ronaldo is destined to have a torrid career in Madrid as he’ll never ever justify 80 Million, nobody can, and they’re already suggesting his team plays better in his absence. the Knives are out. I can’t see Madrid winning anything this season which means Ronaldo will become the gilded scapegoat. He’ll regret leaving us, in fact I think he regrets it already cos its an odd thing for him to say in his first season right before his first knockout campaign in Spain. Isn’t he supposed to be living him dream?
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@7seagulls
Christ, 1 Billion ??? Now you say that it does sound familiar, I thought it was an Urban Legend. but I can see them trying to cash in and sell him before the 6 years is up. Madrid won’t win any Silverware this season, they didn’t progress in the Copa Del Rey, the Liga title is Barcelona’s to throw away, and the Champions League will expose the imbalance in their team. Not looking good for poor old Ronnie ! Come home son ! hahaha. He’s made his Bed.
ust got home for the day today and yesterday so i got this done for beckham on tuesday
hope you’s enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqzm10xiKJo
Paul Parker – I dont think he is being used right, when ronaldo scored the 42 goals in that great season for himself the one thing fergie done was use him has an inside forward cross winger, he was not used has an out an out winger but he played inside meaning he was always floating around the penalty box. this manager who thinks he is the bees knees when he has done nowt in the game, and the way he is using ronaldo shows his lack of knoledge of the modern fame.
Ronaldo is being used like subbuteo football he is being played in one position instad of letting him go everywhere, if I was managing ronaldo in my team he would be used in a free role where he can go right left and through the middle not used in one position like fergie was using him in the 07/08 season. I dont think this madrid manager has grasped the modern day winger and football. I honestly think this manager lives in the old days of ridget subbuteo football instead of using a players ability to the max.
It’s funny but Beckham’s first game against United will take place exactly 7 years after the boot incident. Anyway, the FA cup draw pitted Chelsea at home to Shity or Stoke. So it’s safe to say that at some point, the bitters will lose their final opportunity to win a trophy this season.
rtnk
Ronaldo is being used the same way was at United. His role is the same and he dosent track back.He didnt track back at United either.he plays on the wing but does get in the box whenever he can and dosent take all the penalties. he has got 17 goals in 17 games for them
real dont have an out and out left winger and hence they play kaka,Granero,Alsons and Diarra on the wings none of whom is a winger. hence Ronaldo most of the times is restricted to the right side
aig alex is god – it makes me wonder what waste of money kaka has been. I know he has got 17 but I still feel he is not been used right, yes he can get into the box but for him not to take all the free kicks and penaltys when he is possibly their best forward and the best free kick taker out there despite how well higuan has been playing.
rtnk
kaka certainly hasnt been worth that money.i was shocked to hear real were ready to pay 56 million for him. Great player no doubt but he was 27 then and is a bit injury prone. he has done well in the last few games but nowhere near the value he paid for him.Ronaldo,Rooney and Messi are the only players who are worth high sums of money, Kaka certainly isnt
Ronaldo dosent take all the penalties because he has missed a few and Kaka has a great record from penalties and he too used to take them for Milan.Ronaldo takes almost all the freekicks but those that have to be crossed in are taken by Granero or Alonso.
Oh for goodness sake, the guy is never coming back nor does he want to. The only reason why utd fans would like him to come back at some point in this moment in time is because there are a few gaps in our team, madrid are doing the whole ‘you what you used to have’ thing, the guy is always in the media and it was always going to take the majority of the fans and utd more than half a season to fully moved on from the guy – fastforward to the summer of 2015 and i’d imagine that utd would of won a cl title and 1-3 pl titles in that time and there will be a new generation of hotshots at least coming through if they haven’t already taken over from the footballing icons of today such as kaka, ronaldo and perhaps even messi (well the players in the ‘best’ bracket are getting younger every yr). Point is that utd will have moved on by that time and as ronaldo will probably not be in that top 5 at that time being 30 and all (well the guys main strengths are his speed and power which logically will have at least started to decline slowly by that time from whenever his peak was/is – and i just don’t think he has the same intelligence as giggs or scholes to make that up elsewhere) though still perhaps in top 20 or 50 bracket so we’ll probably still think of him in a sentimental way but that’s all.
Also you got to realize that he wants to be seen in a good light by everyone – if only to carry on getting commercial deals and on past evidence that whilst at utd the guy said a lot of things that the fans wanted to hear but he didn’t believe himself (eg… after the cl 08 final, ronaldo interviewing ronaldo – i rest my case) and add to that he has indicated to spanish & portuguese media (and everyone apart the uk media for that matter) that his run at united is over and he would like to be at madrid for life. I think it’s safe to conclude that if the notw has even quoted 100% correct for once, when he says “maybe in the future I could return to play there” what he actually means is “maybe in the future I could return to play there….. in the cl with my team real madrid”.
Bottom line is even if ronaldo plays rubbish for them – madrid will still find it worthwhile to keep hold of him and pay the big wages for the better part of this decade just based on the commercial revenue he will bring madrid and we all know madrid are about the business aka the money. if Ronaldo signed 2 contact updates in the 6yrs he was with us, he’ll be offered and sign at least one whilst with madrid (i will eat my trainers if he rejects a updated contract at rm – add my socks if it’s in favor of wanting to rejoin us!).
I’d imagine that ronaldo will be at rm for 5-7 seasons (29-31 yrs old) due to madrid getting everything out of him by then and them not exactly being the most loyal of clubs to players long term (it’s touch and go whether their long term icons raul and guti will even retire there – whereas our icons lt giggs, scholes, neville and even rio are 99% likely to retire with us after 10yrs+) – logically unless ronaldo is doing a mandini/giggs on the pitch and a beckham off the pitch then madrid won’t want him past the 9 yr mark as the player will be 34 going on 35 and the new media appealing hotshot in the beckham/ronaldo mould would of probably come through at that point and be in their early/mid 20′s so more appealing to rm. of course ronaldo may want to retire by his mid 30′s but if he has any common sense then he should do what i hope saf will do and continue if he is still enjoying the game – no matter the club he’s playing for (in saf case he should also keep on managing utd if he is still enjoying it – even if he reaches 80 as i think the job helps him feel young and full of life and i have a feeling he will feel like he’s aged a decade once he’s retired!)
@ aig alex is god Said,
it’s not just that – at the age of 27 very few attacking based players are going to be getting better on individual terms (their peak still to be reached). The main aim would be to maintain the level that they were at their peak (whether that is at the age of 23, 25 or 27 – perhaps a little older if lucky) which will be largely depend on whether the player in question works within their team seamlessly right down to being a piece in the wrong jigsaw box.
Judging on kaka’s performances right now i think he’s peak has already happened whilst he was at milan and it’s more a question of will the natural decline with age be quite slow and gradual or fast and dramatic!?!
@dl
Could be. Kaka may have peaked at Milan because although his performances for Madrid arent bad they certainly arent as good as those for Milan. usually the peak phase lasts for 3-5 years when players are at their best.He still is a quality player but no loner in the same league as the Ronaldos and the Messis
I’ve said it before and I say it again La Liga is a joke. Watched the fascists yesterday and have to say Xerez are like a fucking pub team.
rtnk – I give up listening to the media as far as the Chav’s are concerned. As I said last night its disrespectful enough them saying that Citeh will usurp United but really takes the biscuit is the notion that Chelsea can win the fucking TREBLE. Do the ignorant cunt’s know how hard it is to do hence the reason nobody has got near since. It requires luck but it requires a top top team, full of passion and desire to win. The Chav’s with their ageing squad and sexual antics certainly are not that team. Fucking laughable.
Gab Marcotti was banging on about Citeh and Ray Houghton says they have a real chance of a trophy??? They will not get past Stoke let alone Chelsea away. What is with the Rentboys cunts anyway getting a bastard HOME draw every round? Rom’s money talks again.
Anyone watching Atletico Vs Barcelona. Atletico are 2-0 up inside 25 mins. barca havent lost a single game in the league so far.good to see Forlan score. Has done very well against Barca in the past too.
Further:
An exclusive interview of the own goal of Manchester by a Marca reporter (or pretending to be one in my case : )
Marca reporter:
The heart is in Madrid but football is in the Manchester of the red – the President of the whites wish the transfer – you say what?
Own Goal:
I don’t know. Only God knows of the future. I say that I am play in the Manchester but the future? Only God knows. The coach, the team, we want premiership and CL, but I don’t know what the future. Only God knows. It’s polemic.
Marca reporter:
In the white the fans of the Madrid see you – can you say now the heart is in Madrid?
Own Goal:
I don’t know. Only God knows. Manchester have the good chance for the premiership and the CL, but in the future anything can happen. I only talk football, I am a player of the Manchester and I am calm. The future? Only God knows. You cannot say no. It’s polemic.
Marca reporter:
What dream is yours?
I don’t know. I have many dreams. I play for the Manchester but the future? I don’t know. I love Spain and the home of mummy is close in Portugal, but the future? I am happy in Manchester, one day can I play the dream? Only God knows of the future. I am calm and my football is good and Manchester play good football. The fans are good my coach is good. The future is good, but only God knows what will happen to my dream. I can stay for long time and never go, I am happy, but the future? It’s polemic.
Marca reporter:
The President of the Madrid has the project for the whites. The number 7 is the number of the shirt in Manchester. That the Raul goes to the America to have dream – the shirt of the Raul goes to the dream of the President and the fans of the white club. How feel you in this?
Own Goal:
I don’t know. I am seven in the shirt of the Manchester. The coach the fans the team love the number. The future? I don’t know. Only God knows. The team is playing good – we want the premiership and the CL. I am not worried. I am calm. I have a dream. I have many dreams, sometimes they are true, sometimes no. Only God knows of this. It is up to him. I am a Manchester player – and in the future – who knows, only God knows. It’s polemic
Marca reporter:
Thank you Mr. Own Goal. The Madrid see you next year.
Own Goal.
I don’t know. Only God knows. I am calm. But the future? Only God knows. It’s polemic.
: )
aig – Gonna watch it now mate. I have an awful feeling Madrid may win that league this year.
King Eric
Barca get one back. No. barca will win the league, atleast thats what i want to see.
@di
Well said check in the inbox
@ King Eric – couldn’t agree more
Ronaldo having withdrawal symptoms
: )
There is a reason I don’t want much La Liga. Do Gerry Armstrong and the other sycophantic cunt’s including that Matt prick in the studio EVER praise any Spanish Teams other than Barca and Real? Constantly banging on about the quality. Fair enough but even if Messi makes a simple 5 yard pass they really do go overboard. Fuck all praise for Althletico. Regards the league winners to be fair I couldn’t give a flying fuck, don’t particularly like either team.
there was a bit of “fergie sign him back up” talk after the toffee rent boy game in saha
watching barca game here i must say forlan may get the same reaction
playing wonderful
gotta hate – How did your OP go pal?
King Eric – LA LIGA is a rich mans scottish league, there is tons of quality in spanish football but barca and the fascest are a million miles the 2 biggest clubs so alot will be talked about the big 2.
well like I say for them to say chelsea can do what united done in 99 and 2008 and barca done in 2006 and 2009 is a joke. they are saying chelsea can keep up to the levels and achieve what those great united and barca sides done, when those sides were so powerful in attack and what united and barca had in those teams was pace veriaty and some special players which chelsea do not have. chelsea dont have a ronaldo rooney messi ronaldinho thise type of players in such tight games can do something out of nothing, like it was ronaldo’s year in 2008. 2010 could very well be the year of rooney which transforms into a title winning season it seems destined. While terry will suffer at the hands of CARMA, it wuill be a crime if the wife cheating TWAT wins the title.
@rooney the new king
“LA LIGA is a rich mans scottish league, there is tons of quality in spanish football but barca and the fascest are a million miles the 2 biggest clubs so alot will be talked about the big 2.”
That’s a little unfair.This seasons turning into a bit of a 2 horse race that’s true but there are a few teams of long term quality and have the ability to challenge. Its doesn’t have the depth of quality of the premiership (Italy also has more depth) either this season or long term BUT its much better than Scotland
The true 7 is coming back to UNITED !!
king eric mate
i have to wait im back in hospital ive Hypopigmented sarcoidosis and normal sarcoidosis effecting my lungs which is not what they cut me open to get in the first place apart from been very fancy it doesnt really bother me i just need to get out of here before tuesday night. . Im looking forward to seeing Becks back i think against united more than the vague notion that ronaldo could be back.
Wakey – what I ment was that there is so much attention to barca and madrid add the fact they all have the biggest names in europe and they always make the headlines add the fact they are the mos prestigous clubs in spain, its become historic thats why I say its a rich mans scottish league because in scotland its the same with celtic and rangers. Add the fact they are the most likely to win the european cup from the spanish clubs. I think a phew years ago when deportivo and valencia were really a force it was a lot open than it is now.
The problem with valencia is there is so much chaos that its destoyed them when you look at their squad on paper the past phew years they could have been the ones winning la liga in 2007 and 2008 not madrid who were so bad in those years. I still find it a joke how madrid won that league title in 2007 when barca were teqnically the best team that year look at the GD.
@GHTT
Sorry to hear that. Get well soon!
Costa my friend thanks but ill be cool ,who needs breathing huh??
i was just in the playground with emily and my knees justs locked and i got mad lightheaded and my hands started trobbing, i taught i was dead there and then and all i could hear, my dying moments in my ear is”daddy if you push me on the swing can you pick your phone up so i can kick you in the bum bum”
yea GHTT sorry 2 hear that hope 2 hear you back on here for the MILAN game.
@GHTT
Must have been scary. I didn’t know anything about sarcoidosis. I had to google it. I hope you’ll get over it soon. And hopefully United will beat Milan for you.
No thanks. He moved on, we’ve moved on. End of.
@GHTT
Hope you get better soon – all praying for your speedy recovery : )
thanks to everyone but ill be good i think its just a bundle of medicine and inhalers and cruches till the joints get back to normal. Ill be cool im missing playing with emily and my mutv but im trying to sweet talk my way into getting to watch the tuesday game at home with my girls and watching united win. thank god United had the weekend off
If this blog got tired of Ronaldos antics then I can only say that I am therefore tired of this blog (ten fold) for the arrogant, spoilt views expressed. You are an ungreatful lot, his so called antics a figment of your imagination. In our last 18 winning matches last season, Ronaldo made crucial contributions in each of them – nothing to write home about according to this blog. In the Villa game he lost possession and Villa scored. No mention of the 2 goals he scored. Multiple articles saying better off without Ronaldo- a patently dishonest opinion. Ronaldo misbehaves he needs put in his place, Rooney- its passion.
Many of the posters on here are just going to have to face up to the fact that the way they choose to think about Ronaldo and construct their views is based on their bizare predisposition towards him which is out of touch with reality. He is a complete professional, was world player of the year, an accolade no united player had previously recieved and from the wing scored a staggering number of goals.
Least we’ve got Valencia who tracks back and keeps idiots happy- except against villa at old trafford where he left young 1v1 against fletcher who was RB by daudling in the vacinity doing nothing. No one making articles to complain about that though, we’re they?
@brett1985
Fair points but:
On winning the premiership and CL and subsequently operated on an injury he becomes a total fucking jackass for trying to engineer a move away – what a disgrace.
Duly noted that no one can forget what he done for the club – but like every player they are the servants of the club not the other way around.
To have sided with numb nuts Blatter on being a slave was fucking sick to the core. SAF made Ronaldo because he invested time and patience into him. If he stands head and shoulders above anyone it is because his tutorship came at OT Manchester United not the fucking Bernabeau Real Fucking Madrid.
We make our players they buy our players and unfortunately some of our players have a thing – a wholly inaccurate thing for the mob – no suggestions intended at this time.
It poses more questions and answers. The worst feeling of all is this. Did he raise his game to get out as quick as possible? He is no saint. Neither is David Beckham. Yes we will applaud him and thank him properly for what he did for Manchester United. But that’s about it. He like Ronaldo plays for someone else – their job is to beat us and our job is to beat them first. End of story.
@brett1985
There WERE antics that were disrespectful to the club, the manager and the fans who stuck their neck out for him in the summer of 2006. I think you forgot about his attitude towards us in the summer of 08, capped off by that ridiculous “slave” comment. And he did give his all in his last season. He still acted like a brat though. That’s why Fegie had him apologise to the kitman after the City game. Not to mention his petulance when things weren’t going his way on the field.
Who’s ungrateful? Most of us start our comments by saying what an awesome player he was for us. But he is gone now and it was his choice. I like Ronaldo, but I am not going to kiss the ass of someone who isn’t committed to us anymore. I look to the future. Valencia and Nani are our right wingers now and yes in some ways we are better off without Ronaldo. We are more of a team and we have scored more goals than we did last season. Not to mention Wayne’s emergence. What we do lack, is a matchwinner like Ronaldo. Who even on a crappy day(the Villa game) can score twice.
Valencia is doing just fine by the way. Better than expected for his first season at United. One fuck up against Villa won’t change that. And yes, it’s a joy for us idiots to finally have a right winger who helps out his right back from time to time.
I say , bring back our tosser, just to have him have a go at the scousers and the wasteland lot brings a smile to me and not to mention the tormented l’arse . He will come back with a greater respect for the club that soothes his footballing soul.
But ,alas, we know that it will not happen with the SHIT (Scums Home In Tampa) in charge.
On another note, any one where i can get a Green and Gold scarf in Toronto, Canada? Need one for the Cup Final
brett1985 – you are a complete idiot the way you are using his behavior to other players like rooney. and scott king eric myself and many others who grown tired of his behavior are completly justifyed, you want to just compare rooneys behavior to ronaldo’s are you taking the piss. The only time when rooney has got me pulling my hair out was when he got himself stupidly sent off or could have, rooney annoyed a lot of united fans on the field when he was prone to be sent off, rooney was not looking to go to another club. ronaldo was awful last season simple has that. I could name many times where he almost got sent off in his last season,
- This is the best part you saying he was complete professional giggs scholes neville rooney they are your examples of complete profesionals that united fans expect from players. HMM go and look at the many storys from summer 2006 all the way through the second half of the 06/07 season leading up to arpril 13th 2007 when he signed a new deal, jan 2008 all the way through to summer 2008 and throughout 08/09 season the complete selfish part ronaldo has done letting story after story of the possibility of ronaldo leaving united.
and lets look at his 6 seasons.
03/04 – he was dubbed a show pony, he was inconsistant but he was such a breath of fresh air but frustrated the fans and the management staff. He put in a great performence in the FA cup final and helped win the trophy.
scored 5 goals
rating of ronaldo’s season 7/10
-04/05 season – the first year of ronaldo and rooney era, this was one of ronaldo’s worse seasons, he was more frustrating than his first season and no trophys came the teams way, there was glimpses of brilliance but a poor season
scored 9 goals
rating of ronaldo’s season 4/10
05/06 season – It was a weird and a tragic season for ronaldo, he lost his dad had a horrible first half of the season, he came on strong in his second half of the season and for the first time in his career he got into double figures and helped united win the carling cup, he had a major bust up with van nistlerooy. But a bitter sweet season for ronaldo.
12 goals
rating of ronaldo’s season 7/10
06/07 season – the season where ronaldo finally arrived and reaslised that potiental, his patnership with rooney helped spawn 46 goals between the pair. He would win PFA young and main player of the year and come 3rd in world player of the year, and he helped drive united on to end their 4 year title drought.
23 goals
rating of ronaldo’s season 8/10
07/08 season – by far ronaldo’s best season, he would score a staggering total of 42 goals, he realised all the weapons he had in his locker and teh complete versitility he offered the boss right left CF. He would sweep up all the individual awards for himself and his season would help reward united a premiership and champions league double.
42 goals
rating ronaldo’s season 10/10
08/09 season – His final season was a weird one for many reasons, starting with him wanting to leave in summer 2008 and throughout the season he left hints. His weird behavior when he scored he did not seem to care his mind was else where. He was prone to be sent off and his tantrum when he was subbed against shitty which ironically was his last goal of his united career. The upside he would help united win a premiership carling cup and world club cup, played a big part getting to the CL final scoring many wining goals. But what he could have offered it as a poor season by his standards and he could have performed better.
26 goals
rating ronaldo’s season 6/10
And thats my overall view of ronaldo’s time performences at united, did his career justify him dubbed a united legend no it did not. A united legend has to tick many boxes and ronaldo fails to tick 4, 5 or 6 boxes to be dubbed a united legend. But he was a great united player but not a legend here are the boxes he fails to tick.
- he did not stay here long enough
- his behavior wanting to leave left bad taste in many united fans mouth’s
- he did not performe to a high level long enough
- he wanted to leave when the team was not ready to lose a player of his talent just yet
- his behavior in the summer of our best season of 99 tainted the summer of many united fans
Costas – fantastic post at 1.23
brett is THE Ronaldo fanboy.
How about we spend time looking forward like Man Utd instead of shoulda woulda coulda’s like the dippers?
You choose to leave OT. You stay left. That’s it.
his club is real, we cant change that bit of history. so the only way i would have ronny back is if he agreed to play second fiddle to our current main man rooney. if ronny can do his part (maybe on our weaker left side), play to the tactics, provide the assists, work the wings, cover defensively when neccessary, be a team player, curb that over inflated ego of his, and basically play in the shadow of rooney… well then i would have no problem with him playing for us again. otherwise, we really are just better off without him.
@Brett1985
Quite a lot of your points are spot on and i dont blame Ronaldo for wanting to fulfill his dream.What angered most of our fans and me as well to some extent was the fact that he chose to go Public about it.It also took a lot of attention from the excellent season we had in 07-08 and rather than celebrating the summer we had to put up with his contradictiry and sometimes ridiculous statements.
As a player i always consider him to be the man who played a massive part in United resurgence to the top and will always hold him highly and welcome him back any day.Personally i bother only about what players do on the pitch but not all fans do that way.
@ GHTT
Get well soon….all the best for your treatment. Will pray for you my man. Godspeed!
@ Costas…
Agree with King Eric….cracking post at 1:23
Ronaldo was good for us…he’s no longer with us…lets move on! (similarly with lolita tevez with the exception that Ronaldo has shown so much more class since he left us)
On another note…would love to have him back (Ronaldo i’m talking about here!)…how about playing him as a stiker/finisher rather than a winger. that way he has little need to track back and Rooney gets to play in his favourite position in between the midfield and attack where he is at his most dangerous creating and scoring in the sheringham, cantona role
oh fucking irony, the oh so funny games you play…
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2853658/Ashley-Coles-X-rated-photos-to-girl-number-TWO.html
omg
such filthy players
Scum.
Well, it’s all starting to sound like it did after we won the CL. “We’ll see what happens”, “I don’t know about my future”, etc etc.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8514683.stm
its like saying its like saying Danny Higginbotham is on par with wes brown
@MIG
Thanks for the link. I wonder if Ashley is the long lost brother of Tiger Woods.
@King Eric, Red Devil
Thanks. I have great memories of Ronnie, but can’t forget what happened in his last 12 months as our player. Red Devil, I don’t think playing him as a striker is the best solution. His great strength in my opinion is using his pace to get into goalscoring positions. So I think his best position is as a winger in a 4-3-3 with one of the CMs covering for him when he cuts inside. Besides, can he tussle with defenders like Rooney does?
Hi GHTT
The comparison is a bad one either way. We can’t compare Rooney to the Ronaldinho of today or the Ronaldinho of 2003-2006. Totally different players. Well, they are both class at one point of tgheir career, but that’s about it.
Interesting interview from Giggs:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=742012&sec=uefachampionsleague&cc=5739
Pity he will miss the game tomorrow, but I am sure both of them will play in the second leg.
Vidic is still out with a knee injury for tomorrows game. When is SAF’s press conference?, he must be asked about this issue with Vidic. Anderson too is out again. Wonder how long that will continue and how long we can continue with the same 3 Central Midfielders in the team.
@AIG
Hi mate. Is this confirmed? I agree about both points. Anderson should at least be in the squad from now on. With Giggsy out, we don’t even have that option for our midfield. The other option is Gibson.
Not surprised that Vidic hasn’t made it. Looking at our fixtures, the West Ham game is a good opportunity for him to get some match practice. If he ever gets fit.
Carrick, Fletcher, Scholes, Nani and Park will start in midfield I assume. Berbatov plays well against Italians (Inter last season) but unfortunately he is not likely to feature tomorow as Fergie will be going with a 4-5-1. I hope we manage to score at least one tomorow as that away goal may well count and possibly get us through if we concede one at OT. When did Anderson get injured anyway? Miss seeing him in the team.
@Fze123
Yeah, that’s probably our midfield for tomorrow with Valencia rested for Everton. I also see Brown starting as right back.
Anderson isn’t injured to my knowledge. He is probably getting a silent punishment for going AWOL after he didn’t make the bench against Hull last month.
@Costas
Hi mate.The mirror reported it(Hardly a reliable source) but i feel VIdic wont play and was hoping for positive news on Anderson, what exactly is the problem?.If he isnt injured he should be in the squad now. he surely is better than Gibson and has played in CL games at this level.Ok, he missed training but thats some time back now and in the best intrests of the team he should be brought back in.
God knows about Vidic. Surely SAF has to mention that in his Press Conference before the Milan game. Its getting ridiculous now and yet no mention is being made of when he will return. It was a calf injury a few days back, now it is a knee injury.
@Fze123
Hi. I think we have to score tomorrow. I cant see us keeping a clean sheet so a score draw or in worst case score defeat by 1 goal margin wont be too bad. 0-0 is always a dangerous scoreline against Milan because they know how to do the job away from home.
@AIG
It’s confirmed from our official website. Both of them haven’t travelled without a reason been given. Another website says that Vidic is still struggling with the nerve problem in his leg. It’s about time this gets addressed by Sir Alex. Our medical team surely must have a realistic estimation about when he can return.
I hope Anderson returns to the squad starting with the Everton game. Scholesy is in great form, but he can’t start both games.
@ Costas
I have a feeling Gary Neville will start at RB. Brown hasn’t played there for a while so maybe Fergie will play it safe and rest Brown as he has featured for our past 3-4 games I think.
Anderson should play at least play some part against the Hammers considering the tight schedule we have and it would also be the ideal game for Vidic, to bring him in the mix.
@Costas
SAF will have to shuffle the pack. Also cant forget we play West ham 3 days after Everton. Actually Scholesy did play against Hull,City and Arsenal so he may do it again although he should be rested for the West Ham game.
I have given up all hopes from our medical team now.I will only believe things when i see them. Far too many return dates have been predicted incorrectly. When you say 2 weeks at the most it can be 3 weeks but here 2 weeks gets stretched to over a month and yet we have no clue about when Vidic is going to return or what the problem with him is.
@ aig alex is god
If we score first, we will be fine throughout the game. It’s all about getting the goal first, when we then become more comfortable and at ease. Milan know how to do the job away from home but I think they’ll find it difficult this time around at OT; our players will not want to experience a defeat by them again and the fans will surely spur our players on.
@ Fze123
Gary at Rb could be a total disaster, Ronaldinho can rip him to shreds and Gary has a tendency to give silly fouls away and we all know the capability of Ronaldinho from the dead ball too.
@Fze123
If we could score first it could be all over especially considering our pace on the counter we could get a few more.Chances will be few and far between so we cant afford to waste many chances. Have to take them as and when the come.
The last 2 meetings with Milan we have had to play the 2nd Leg away. The 2nd leg at home is a big boost and that definitely gives us the edge.
Correct me if i’m wrong but didn’t Vidic got injured in warm up before the Leeds game and was supposed to be back in 10 days ?
Only God knows, whats up with Vida !
@andsolskjaerhaswonit…
yes. you are right. since then his return date is being pushed forward evey time.He was on the bench against CIty in 2nd leg of the Carling Cup and in the squad to face Arsenal but didnt play that game. SIcne then we have had no update on him or when he will be back
@ andsolskjaerhaswonit…
I agree, I want to see Brown or even Rafael start in that position but it’s just a feeling I have.
@ Aig Alex is God.
Hi Mate, hows it going ?
IF we score first i can also see us going through comfortably, very much like we played against Arsenal ! Our pace will really cause them trouble.
Vidic initially was supposed to be back after 10 days. 30 days later, he suffered a recurrence of his problem and he would be ok for the visit of Portsmouth…
@AIG
There will be some tinkering no doubt. And I don’t want to disrespect West Ham, but I think that game is a great opportuniy for Rooney to get a breather. He has played non stop since the Villa game in December. We will see. Scholes has played a lot recently, so you could be right. He could play in the next 2. We will pobably play 4-5-1 in both game anyway.
Good point about the away goal. 0-0 is a good score for the home side too. They can play for two results in the second leg.
@ Fze123
Fair enough. but i want Rafa to start, he kept Robinho in his arse pocket 2 yrs. back and he has improved drastically (defensively) n is not shy at all at the biggest stage. I have reservations over Wes, he was revelation in our double winning campaign at RB but since has not played consistently there.
@andsolskjaerhaswonit…
I am good mate. How are you?
A replay of the performance against Arsenal wont be bad although Milan wont play as Open as Arsenal but we have a great chance down the right wing to exploit them.Nani should enjoy playing against Favalli who is 38 years now. Park wont find it as easy because Abate is a good player and loves Bombing forward so they should cancel each other out. Rooney wont have it easy either against Nesta and Thiago SIlva but he will get the odd chance,just has to make it count
Completely Off topic, but anybody saw Crystal Palace’s second goal? 36 yards FK !
Stunning.
@Costas
Yes. It will be a 4-5-1. 0-0 is not a good scoreline for either side so we must get an away goal and avoid defeat.Dont know why but whenever we play Milan i get a doomed feeling that we are gonna lose. Hope we can change history this time
Right about Rooney beiong rested.Surely Berba and Owen can see us past West Ham.
@ Aig Alex is God.
I’m good mate, did you saw the magazine show last night ? They were interviewing Rooney !
@ Aig Alex is God.
U have this “we are gonna lose” feeling before every match. lol
Don’t worry, first goal is the key and i have a feeling Milan are going to get battered!
@ andsolskjaerhaswonit…
Personally I would go for more experience and start Brown at RB. He excels in that position and better than Rafael defensively. All in all I just hope we don’t concede first as that might discourage us and rejuvenate the italians.
@AIG
Not too confident about Milan either. But we have to perform well against them at some point…
We could have done with Giggs and Vidic playing, but hopefully Nani and Evans will do the job. Interesting to see how Nani will react after his setback. And this is a huge game for him. The biggest one since he played against Barca in 08
@andsolskjaerhaswonit…
no mate. Didnt see it.Always nice to listen to Rooney.So positive and down to earth lad
I am never confident before a game.Blame it on my pessimistic nature.Atleast i have COSTAS for Company.There should be a few pessimists around too.
If we batter Milan i will be delighted. Its high time we do it. 4 times they have knocked us out now and we havent done it even once
@Costas
Without doubt this is the game for Nani to make his mark.Evans has done well of late and looks comfortable with Rio or Vida besides him so we shouldnt have any problem there. Nani will want to prove his point after his red against VIlla. Hope it spurs him on. Favalli isnt the most difficult opponent he will play against and should enjoy it
King Eric Said,
February 15th, 2010 @5:22
Costas – fantastic post at 1.23
brett is THE Ronaldo fanboy.
———–
Always with the united fanboy line, even though once again, its not me who brought up a topic with Ronaldo in it. IIRC you were telling me this united side is as good as the side in 99.
I note that in several of the posters who followed my comments noone actually addressed the complaints I made which I feel goes to show just how willing they are to avoid the information I presented in favor of their own bizare take on matters.
Lets just set the record straight. George Best had his faults, Cantona has his flaws and if you wanted to construct arguments against them like Ronaldo, you very easily could. He is a legend and legends don’t deserve ‘he is great but….but….but…’.
He wasn’t your cup of tea, that’s understood but I’ve said it many times before. If invited to make 10 comments on Ronaldo and you make 9 negative ones, then you are conning yourself and will end up like the other guy on here who regards the 07-08 campaign as nothing to aspire to and ruined by Ronaldo.
brett – Who said this “Side” was a good as 99? Not me mate. I said the squad is as good, which it is.
Never once denied his talent and he was a joy to watch week in week out However , his histrionics leave a bad taste. Costas summed it to perfection as I said. Yeah can just imagine Eric “engineering” a move to the fascists and keeping United fans on tenterhooks all summer instead of celebrating a great double season. You may well be happy pal for him to behave like that then say after a few weeks “I may come back to United. god only knows”. Boring.
- he did not stay here long enough
- his behavior wanting to leave left bad taste in many united fans mouth’s
- he did not performe to a high level long enough
- he wanted to leave when the team was not ready to lose a player of his talent just yet
- his behavior in the summer of our best season of 99 tainted the summer of many united fans
——–. Its funny but I swear we had this legend debate a while ago and that is why you bring it up. Yet you dismissed my post entirely. The curious thing is I was making almost the exact point you are with the opposite conclusion. At the time I’m fairly sure you choose to dismiss my criteria though. Lets see.
George Best didn’t stay long enough, his behavior left a bad taste, he didn’t perform to a high level long enough etc.
You can say whatever periperal or diversionary points you like but the fact is Ronaldo meets enough criteria to be considered a legend. Why bother with the legitimacy of reasoning. Why not admit to an irrational dislike? Cantona falls foul of most of your criteria as well. Only Giggs, Charlton and Robson would meet that clean cut image.
Oh and where does Ole come in legendary status. This is what I mainly don’t like. Legend is a very liberally used word, yet as soon as it comes to Ronaldo nothing less than perfect will do.
Costas – Scholesy CAN play tomorrow and Saturday. He played three in a row the other week and was outstanding in each. He likes it more playing regularly and can get in his groove better I think. As for Anderson and especially Vidic it has become a joke.
Morning by the way mate.
We will have too much pace for Milan. Reckon we can rip them to shreds at OT. An old Gattuso and Pirlo won’t live with Fletch, Scholes and Carrick.
Sorry to be an idiot but is Rio eligible now? When is his last game?
@King Eric
Can play tomorrow. Misses out on Everton. That is his last game. Should return against West Ham next tuesday
@King Eric
Sorry for the manners
Hi and Good morning
@brett1985
Your complaints did get addressed. It’s a matter of how each one of us sees things. You spoke about Ronaldo contrinuiting in our last 18 winning matches? League matches? Matches in general? How can that happen when he didn’t even feature in some of them? And how exactly was he vital? Goals? Assists?Lets look at the last 18 winning matches from that season:
1) West Ham (a), 1-0. Started the game but no crucial contribution.
Aston Villa (h), 3-2. 2 goals
2) Derby (a), 4-1. 1 goal and 1 assist.
3) Fulham (h), 3-0. 1 assist
4) Blackburn(h), 2-1. 1 goal
5) Newcastle (a), 2-1. Started the game but no crucial contribution.
6) Fulham (a), 4-0. Didn’t play.
7) Inter (h), 2-0. 1 goal
9) Sunderland (a), 2-1. Came on as a sub, no crucial contribution.
10) Porto (a), 1-0. 1 goal
11) Portsmouth (h), 2-0. Started the game but no crucial contribution.
12) Tottenham (h), 5-2. 2 goals, 1 assist.
13) Arsenal (h), 1-0. Started the game but no crucial contribution.
14) Middlesbrough (a), 2-0. Didn’t play.
15) Arsenal (a), 3-1. 2 goals, 1 assist.
16) Man City (h), 2-0. 1 goal.
17) Wigan (a), 2-1. Started the game but no crucial contribution.
18) Hull (a), 1-0. Didn’t play.
So that’s half of these 18 games where Ronaldo didn’t determine anything.
brett – Who said this “Side” was a good as 99? Not me mate. I said the squad is as good, which it is.
Never once denied his talent and he was a joy to watch week in week out However , his histrionics leave a bad taste. Costas summed it to perfection as I said. Yeah can just imagine Eric “engineering” a move to the fascists and keeping United fans on tenterhooks all summer instead of celebrating a great double season. You may well be happy pal for him to behave like that then say after a few weeks “I may come back to United. god only knows”. Boring.
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A squad is first team players, rotation players and backups. By the time the issue of the first 11 was raised (as not being anywhere near as good) you were still sticking to the good as 99 point. I’d rather be a fanboy than to be foolish.
@King Eric
Morning mate. As far as Scholes is concerned, he has done very well in recent weeks and he has played a lot more than I thought he could. These two games are tough and they include some travelling. I hope he can, because he has been fantastic as the anchor man. I just feel that it’s a waste having Anderson at ou disposal and not using him.
@AIG
Hope you are right about Nani. It will be a true test for his maturity.
aig – Cheers mate. Morning.
brett – Pardon? Don’t know what you mean.
Costas – An absolute waste mate but look what a few weeks in the wilderness did to Nani. Leave it to Fergie, he will have his reasons. As for Scholes he hasn’t really been the anchorman in recent games. More Carrick in that role.
Costas:
The article was by Scott so that is what defined the parameters for it. Having ridiculed Scott for his belief that Ronaldos winning contributions in 1/3 of those matches were nothing to write home about, you have responded by saying he didn’t do something in 1/2 the matches. This is excluding by the way his role in the champions league which made his season all the more impressive.
The frightening thing is that you actually choose to dispute the point at all. Its all ‘he’s a great player but…’. There isn’t a but with respect to the above statement.
Last season let alone the previous one was one of the best seasons a winger has ever produced in the history of football. And you are picking on that point! Like I intimated in my original post and since- Ronaldo was not perfect but I choose to give his imperfections the attention they deserve while others let them cloud even the good bits. The way people speak of Ronaldo should never have become legitimised on this blog but rationality has gone out the window.
Don’t really want to get involved in your argument, but Best was with United for 9 years, and they were his best years too.
Carry on
@King Eric.
True. I think Fergie switched them around against Arsenal.
@brett1985
Haven’t excluded anything. He was probably our best player in the knockout stages of the Ch.League. My response was to your point about Ronaldo making vital contributions in our last 18 winning games. I haven’t taken anything away from Ronaldo in any of my posts. And I have actually said that I am dwelling on his antics anymore. I just responded to your comment about his antics. Were they a valid reason why United fans got upset with him towards the end? Yes. Should they tarnish his accomplishments with us. Of course not.
Costas: His contribution in the ECL was just a point to note. His antics are the sort of things football fans latch onto though aren’t they. Like a striker chasing back, high work rate, ‘petulant/diving foreigner’. I wish people could see past these things and simply enjoy the past. People have said on here he spoilt their enjoyment of certain things and now they are determined to spoil the memory.
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Jig3000 Said
So none of my other points about legendary status were valid? I wonder. Now Ronaldo was at United for 7 years, a breath of fresh air from the moment he joined. Best was a great player too, a legend in my book. But if someone is going to set up longevity as a criteria to dismiss Ronaldo then what of Cantona. A better example than Best even.
brett – Pardon? Don’t know what you mean.
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I mean that we haven’t talked about Ronaldo in what must be a month and the first line you come out with is that I am a fanboy- even though the crux of my whole point is that the only reason people are left to defend Ronaldo is the constant negativity. By calling me a fanboy even after that point was previously explained to you it is no surprise that you don’t know what I mean. I was accused about always talking about Ronaldo, in a topic about him before. Despite that aptly being pointed out at the time it didn’t resonate with you did it?
The fact is Scott often talks about Ronaldo in negative terms, contributors here toe the line and people like myself are derided for simply being positive. Its curious because I am a notorious cynic about other players like Berbatov/Valencia. On reflection, the way Valencia is praised and the way some say we are better off without Ronaldo just goes to show how crazy people have become.
Calm down there Brettie boy, I was pointing-out that Best was there for a long time, not a short time as you implied. I never said anything about Ronaldo, so keep your socks on.
BTW Ronaldo was at Utd for 5, not 7, years.
NOTE: I’m not saying anything about his ability / legendary status / antics, simply correcting your application of time.
ronaldo was signed in the summer of 2003 and was sold summer of 2009, fuck sake do the maths
Sorry, 5 seasons.
6 seasons!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like the hotel?
No it’s 6 seasons actually.
Haha you have to love Ronaldo, I get the impression the ‘only gods knows’ comment was a little tongue and cheek.
I cant see him being back too be honest. Unless Madrid fail to win anything and need to sell
Shitbird1985 doesnt know his arsehole from breakfast if he’s trying to equate the portuguese ladyboy with the King who broke our 20 something year drought.
I’ve been away for a couple of days, and reading some of the comments by most of you has been one the funniest moments this year, so far.
You can mock him as much as you want,hate him to your hearts desire,but i bet you that once in a while you think back to those magical moments,Moscow 2008,Portsmouth at OT,Sporting Lisbon in the CL..Ronaldo was a great and he desrves our respect,He followed a dream,You cant hate anyone for that..Tevez on the other hand..
Brett @ 13:27: “The fact is Scott often talks about Ronaldo in negative terms, contributors here toe the line”
Not everyone was/is happy about his departure. Sure, his departure has “freed” WayneRooney but the fact remains that the team would be better off with both of them on the field. What’s really “missing” since CR left and Vidic has gone walkabout is the heading-power those two supplied at corners and free-kicks.
On the other hand, SAF has done a masterful job at re-jigging his team’s approach so that it is more dominant as an attacking force without “the best player in the world”. Let’s give the gaffer huge credit for managerial brilliance.
Evra’s biggest fan: “Haha you have to love Ronaldo, I get the impression the ‘only gods knows’ comment was a little tongue and cheek.”
CR was/is very clever – in his second language, too. I think he (or his “handlers”) recognized that this was a great line to spout when the questions got hot. Downloading the “blame” on God basically shut up the questioner. Really smart PR.
denton – Hello mate. Completely agree about our threat or rather lack of it from corners . I hope this is something they will be working on. Also spot on about Fergie and his smooth transition of the team, once again. Genius.
2003,2004,2005,2006,2007,2008,2009
manchuchu
If you could read I was saying that if people felt Ronaldo wasn’t here long enough to be a legend then Cantona wasn’t either. The response I get is that Ronaldo wasn’t here for 7 years (which he was). corrected to 5 seasons, when it was actually 6 seasons. Is that therefore less than Cantona to nullify my point? No one on here can take a simple, correct point at face value because you dont like the outcomes. Althought I will assume that the people who didn’t berate me at least understood it.