Ronaldinho, who was named the best player in the world in 2004 and 2004, claims watching Eric Cantona is the first memory he has of English football, but that several other United players would have been good enough to play for any club they wanted.
“I remember seeing Eric Cantona play for Manchester United,” he told The Daily Mail. “The way he used to control games was special to watch. Paul Scholes, Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole, Wayne Rooney, all players who, at their peak, would have got into any team in the world. Rooney is a player I like – there is not a national squad in the world he would not improve.”
United had more or less signed Ronaldinho in the summer of 2003, before Peter Kenyon screwed it up by trying to take the piss out of PSG after hearing Barcelona had a bid that was smaller than ours accepted. Out of principle, PSG then sold him to Barcelona and the following year he was recognised as the best in the world. Fortunately, to ease the pain of missing out on Ronaldinho, we signed Cristiano Ronaldo that summer instead, and that didn’t turn out too badly!
Ronaldinho says he doesn’t have any regrets about not playing in England, and that joining United was the closest he ever came to moving here.
“That was the only time it has been a real option,” he said. “If Manchester United had signed me they would have won more European Cups!”
Whilst there’s no denying Ronaldinho certainly would have improved us, it’s hardly to imagine those United teams between 2004 and 2006 winning the Champions League. Alan Smith, Eric Djemba Djemba, Roy Carroll, Liam Miller, Kieran Richardson and Kleberson, to name a few of our players at the time, weren’t quite champions of Europe material. The only squad in Ronaldinho’s time at Barcelona that could have done with something a little extra was the one from the 06-07, that beat AC Milan 3-2 at home in the semi-finals, but then got thrashed 3-0 away. However, with Barcelona getting knocked out in the round of 16 that year, by Liverpool (who finished 3rd that year), with Ronaldinho having very little say, you’d be forgiven for thinking he probably wouldn’t have made that much difference to us either.
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Well you coul have been a legend here, and fuck Kenyon that miserable twat
Kenyon did a number of fuck ups that summer. Before leaving for Chelsea…
As for Ronaldinho, not sure we would have won more European cups with him, but he would have made a great partnership with Van Nistelrooy.
Top player but I’m not sure he would have stuck it out in the wet northwest.
He’s always liked his sun and samba and I find it hard to imagine that he would have
adjusted to the climate enough to have stayed for more than a season or two.
Well said that blood sucker (kenyon) really screwed us big tyme,remember Robben… Oh kenyon was a real pain in d ass.
a missed opportunity to bring him in, but utd could still sort out things by getting neymar instead
You were good kid….
But at United, you would have been the best!
p.s sort your teeth out.
Agree with Scott, Not likely Ronaldinho would have improved us that much given our players at the time.
But that isn’t to take anything away from him. Great player. Actually wonder if he could hack it in England. Guess it’s a question that will go unanswered
…..except by the FootyManager lads.
Great players in other leagues don’t necessarily translate into effective players at United/UK.
Juan Seb Veron and Diego Forlan come to mind.
any news of carrick
iced earth:
Carrick has been withdrawn from England duty due to a reported hip issue. Not supposed to be serious. Bet Jones will be next
FletchTHEMAN
hope it s not serious
i think carrick is the most important player in our squad he can t be replaced
i hope that sir alex will go for wanayma in the summer
I really hate that kenyon prixk for screwing up probably with the intention to leave for money at chelski. he got the sack eventually by RA. Such a poor character of a person & he’ll never be welcome back at OT. Just reading his name riles me up. Where is he hiding these days I wonder.
iced earth. Cheers.
I’m hopping its all england highjinx. Sturridge was withdrawn today so you can see everyone will be doing it. It’s a friendly for crying out loud! Take youngsters who need the experience and games.
Costas: Kenyon was a piece of work. Reshaped the wage structure but some really iffy signings as well. Don’t know the truth of it, but some credit him for changing Fergies mind about retirement in 2002. Then he buggered right off for Romans billions.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/375500/Manchester-United-regrets-missing-Stoke-City-s-Asmir-Begovic-in-January-window
a back up for ddg!!
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/4051/cartoon-of-the-day/2013/02/04/3725372/-
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson’s success has been helped along by chewing gum, according to a study in Japan.
Research at Japan’s Institute of Radiological Sciences has indicated that the Scotsman, who is regularly spotted on the touchline during matches chewing, is able to think faster due to the habit.
Ronaldinho, he epitomises brazilian football. Plays the game with a smile and joy. What a player, i still think he played the strongest part in dragging barca to victories and starting their renewed revolution of winning football. He has all the ability, acceleration, speed of thought, immense dribbling, close control, shooting power, imagination/creativity in terms of improvising in a difficult situation. One of his best goals was ag against chelsea at stamford bridge. Edge of the box, no other alternate route to goal, he had to produce something and as ever, with the maestro talent that he has, he did a couple of twist (or samba dancing as i call it) and bent it pasr cech, a brilliant magical goal that sums him up. I still fond of his style than messi who admittedly is a ruthless and best consistent player in football.
Due to messi’s ridiculous ability, he probably gets forgotten by one or two in their club but he was, at his best, one of the best to ever grace the game and may well remind england of his capabilities again even if he isn’t at brilliant best anymore.
It’s funny how people lambast rooney, not only by the obsessed media but some so called united fans yet ronaldinho, a footballing legend thinks he’d walk into a highly talented brazilian team and improve any team.
I also have to say,football was better to watch when brazil dominated the game. They played with class and beauty, their every touch brought music to people’s ears (well mine anyway), they didn’t suffocate teams like spain do, those spaniards have drained the energy out of football, they are,efficient and decisive albeit with their superior technical qualities of monopolising the fuck out of possession but i still prefer the brazilian flair and the sooner those days return, the better. No one can discount them as being capable of winning the world cup on home soil but the pressure cooker on them will be highly charged, i hope it drives them to success and i hope rafael is at least starting.
In 2004 AND 2004?! Wow, impressive stuff.
Scholes favourite for Oldham vacancy ( Sky Bet )
Iced earth, Now way that is anything except bookies looking for a payday.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2272716/Paul-Gascoigne-pictures-star-shaking-bloated-latest-shambolic-public-appearance.html#axzz2JjZQ4ZcC
Hold up a minute. Ronaldinho not likely to have improved us ? I can understand personal opinions bits thats just a load of tosh. We would have been greatly improved, simply because he is a world class talent
This is a playet messi learned a couple of things from, he was the master while the protege argentine was being eased in.
Him along with edgar davids hauled barcelona back into big league. I remember they were languishing in the bottom half at 10 or 12 position. Quality player, shame it all went tits up for him. Still he was a world class player, performed fantastic for barca and brazil. My favorite player behind paul scholes
One of my favourite players of all time, would’ve loved to have seen him in a Utd shirt at any time in the middle of the last decade.
Drinking game for watching PL:
Drink every time a commentator mentions the City – QPR game during a City game
Drink every time a commentator mentions how erratic/nervous/unconvincing/shit De Gea is
Drink every time a commentator mentions how Hart is the best keeper in the world
Drink every time a commentator mentions the fact that City are missing their Captain Kompany and the superb Yaya Toure (as if we had no injury problems last season)
Drink every time the FSW looks nervous on TV.
Dinho was a great, one of the greatest footballer u wont even get bored watching him. Even Messi couldn’t match his magic during his pomp.
We could have signed this absolute legend if not for bellend Peter fucking Kenyon. Then he left for Chelsea too. How did that work out for you peter? AHAHA.
Interesting. Wonder which CL game this is. Methinks that it’s the Spurs-Inter game which Spurs won, especially because of the involvement of an Italian team.
Oops forgot the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807
There seems to be serious money for Scholes going to Oldham. I can’t see it happening just now.
In the summer maybe but even then I can’t imagine him on the touchline. He just doesn’t seem manager material.
Poor old Gazza looks shocking. He looks like he could be knocked down with a feather.
Very sad to see. It all went downhill when he didn’t sign for United. We would have dealt with him better and if I had the choice I’d have picked Gazza over Ronaldhino.
Cantona on living legends – 1 minute video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcvStTP5kfA&feature=player_embedded
ex Chronicle:
Confirmation of FletchTM’s report – Danny Simpson was left bleeding and unconscious in the street after the bloody 4am brawl in Manchester. It is believed an argument happened outside the Rice Flamebar and Grill in Manchester in the early hours after he enjoyed a night out at the exclusive Circle Club with former Manchester United teammates Danny Welbeck and Tom Cleverley. The scuffle began as the footballer queued for his food.
Following the fight Simpson tweeted: “For the record im okay, 2 on 1 well done!”
Danny unconscious in the street – 47 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y9ZXXvCK2w&feature=player_embedded
… Clubbed by the bouncer!
“He [Danny Simpson]was definitely drunk,” an eyewitness said. “Then him and this guy started getting aggressive with each other. They started scuffling. The man was pushing and shoving Danny and he just lost it. He punched him and he dropped to the ground. Someone pulled him off the man. Everyone in the takeaway was saying, ‘Danny, you can’t do that – you’ve got to leave’.
“Danny got in a taxi outside but the two bouncers rushed over and opened the door. There was a girl there trying to calm the situation and telling the taxi to take Danny home – but one of the bouncers dragged him out then punched him in the face. He dropped to the floor and was half on the pavement, half on the road with blood pouring from his mouth.
“He was in a bad way. It looked like he’d been knocked out. Everyone crowded round him. He was still breathing but not responsive. Luckily he’d landed in the recovery position so we didn’t move him.”
Messi may be scoring more goals, but Ronaldinho was definitely the catalyst for Barca’s dorminance. And I would want to watch Ronaldinho more than Messi and Ronaldo put together. The latter two looks more like robots, clinical and efficient. But football is much more than that. Ronaldinho just made it look fun
Seriously who the fuck would film someone when they’re unconscience? They’re are some absolutely twats in our society.
Diego – Ha we would all be arseholed especially with the amount of times that fucking cunt Tyler sneaks the last day of season in.
DreadedRed That is bonkers about Danny Simpson. 47sec is a long time. Just thank all it wasn’t Welbeck or Cleverley who were out with him. But that is small consolation indeed for lunacy like this. Absolutely gutted that such is still happening. Glory hunters of the worse kind.
Best to Danny Simpson!
King Eric:
Yes, he seems to mention it in every other sentence.
Wow! 101greatgoals is reporting that the English team affected by the match fixing probe is none other than Liverpool v Debrecen!
“Debrecen keeper was bribed to ensure over 2.5 goals in the match”
Liverpool still could only manage one goal!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/the-fixed-champions-league-game-was-liverpool-1-debrecen-0-sept-2009
enjoy the old times,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuQpnfoXPA
i heard it was the chelsea barcelona game from a couple of seasons ago the one where the ref gave chelsea nothing
Fletch I think Welbz was there. He can be seen in the video.
It won’t be Chelsea V Barca, why would one of their players need a bribe?
Debrecen make more sense as they will have players earning no more than a few hundred pounds a week
According to reports, Jones is ruled out for a while with shingles. Well, it’s been that type of season for him…
OAFC. It wouldnt be a player needing a bribe. It would be the referee.
Watching Ronaldinho at his peak was amazing. He could do anything, real legend of barca.
Costas – that is why united need another defender, heck I still think we need 3 or 4 players, 2 CM players, 2 new defenders. United we are going to be potentially really short of defenders next season. Ferdinand may not resign, vidic with his injury problems, like we have seen with smallen and jones, in CM scholes may call it a day, fletcher may never be the same again, anderson always has fitness problems, wile carrick is not getting any younger, so there is a rebuilding process that will be needed in the summer. Zaha is a start, but once again the chess pieces will be moving around again
In David We Trust,
We shouldn’t be rushing into a buying spree, since we do have a couple of good youngsters in Powell, Zaha and Tunnicliffe all ready for bit-part roles next season, like what Scholesy and Fletch have been doing this season. In defense too Michael Keane and Scott Wootton have looked pretty good too, and Fabio will be back next season too.
With Vidic, Evans, Smalling, Jones, and possibly Rio ahead of Keane and Wootoon, I think our defense will be in good shape next year if we can avoid long term injuries.
DreadedRed- He is an Eccles lad , thats how we say goodnight ha ha.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2013/Feb/loan-watch-bebe-shines-for-rio-ave.aspx
Interesting piece on united’s lads on loan especially Bebe. I think he’ll come back with a bang.
Sorry for the typo on my previous one. Username is Theredderdevil
looks like cristiano is out to give utd some footballing lessons they meet for the cl, according to an interview he gave that is… everton on sunday will be a very tight one, remember the 4-4 at old trafford last season which started our downfall, and then losing to them this season at goodison. hope the lads going to play for the friendlies do not get injured
Costas, Cheers mate. Shingles is it? Hope that is just the story we fed Stu Pierce to get the lad out of the internationals week.
But here is the report from the Mirror.
Phil Jones out for 4weeks with a bout of shingles according to Pierce.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-phil-jones-injury-1585891
Costas, Cheers mate. Shingles is it? Hope that is just the story we fed Stu Pierce to get the lad out of the internationals week.
But here is the report from the Mirror.
Phil Jones out for 4weeks with a bout of shingles according to Pierce.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-phil-jones-injury-1585891
In David We Trust,
I agree on the part of bringing a few players particularly CM and Defenders. United injury list is quite long and sometimes taking total on the campaign, having a few extra players who can provide good cover is definitely worth it. Besides, some of our younger players still need sometime to mature into a good/ great player. There is also a large gap between some of our old players and new ones. Having some players to bridge the gap between speed, experience and expertise can or might be us some advantage especially when need all three aspects. However, the larger question is always who will be the candidates that can fill this void? How much United could afford their transfer fees?
On another hand, Ronaldo said United is a united team but Real is a better team. I supposed United should perform much better to make sure that we go into the next phase. It is worrying about our current performance against the Saints and Cottages. Hopefully everything goes well against Everton match this week. Lets hope the lads can pack some good performance against them. Can’t afford the same mistake like last year.
@FITB
Down the road we will probably need another defender. Although I’m hopeful Rio will sign on and help out as we transition to the next phase. Evans should be a full regular next year too. And hopefully Smalling and Jones will start getting past their injury jinxes like Rafa did. The problem we have right now isn’t at CB. Jones’ absence is costly in a different way. He’s the best alternative we have for Rafa and Carrick. He’s not an ideal CM, but I was actually looking forward to Jones starting against Everton and Reading and taking some of the weight off Carrick’s shoulders. But typically, we’ve lost him when we need him most. Just like with Smalling last season.
@Fletch
That has to be a first as far as United injuries are concerned. Always willing to set new standards in that department.
Costas. Shingles (Jones) and Crohn’s (Fletcher) disease both have an immune component. Hope this isn’t an emerging issue.
There’s more likely the chance of michael keane stepping up into the centre back role next season hopefully, more so than fergie going on some huge amount of purchases, you can’t buy everyone, especially if you are not bank-rolled by some billionaire. I’d imagine a midfielder or two but then again, fergie may hand opportunities to players in the reserves if they’ve made progress.
Anyway, good article on rafael : http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/8471163/Reliable-Rafael-s-stock-is-on-the-rise
And as someone mentioned, the tunnicliffe, powell, e.t.c are there, even petrucci on loan and it’s another season of experience for them and both will take another tr step towards being regular starters but a couple of experienced and quality purchases,cannot be discounted to bolster the team and rightly so.
Jones’ absence (if it’s true he’ll be out for that long) is a bigger blow than people think. I was 90% sure he’d start in midfield against Madrid to help stifle them, like he did vs Spurs. And as Costas said – he’s the closest alternative we have for when we need to rest Carrick.
On a related note – what do you guys think will happen with our centre halves over the next 2 games. Ideally you’d want the big two – Rio and Vidic – against Madrid. But we play Fellaini and co on Sunday – surely you’d want at least one of those guys playing in that game as well? And I don’t think either of them can play twice in 4 days….
@Fleth
Shingles is fundamentally a viral infection caused by “Varicella Zoster” and hence the name of the illness is Herpes Zoster”Shingles”, it usually affects the unilateral course of a specific nerve.usually on the chest or face or back.the patient have severe excruciating pain along the course of affected nerve, this stage stage could last for few days, then a transitional phase will be appearance of skin rash in the form of eruption in the overlying skin, however most of the cases will recover completely within 2-3 weeks.the treatment is with usual pain killing tablets and steroids injection.to be on the safe side the patient should take an extra week of rest to avoid any cardiac complication, so technically Jones could be out for 3-4 weeks.hopefully he will be back stronger.
Andromeda,
Cheers mate. You are correct about the initiation. Chicken Pox at a younger age remanifests years later as Shingles. But a key feature of this is your immune state, and your bodies ability to mount and maintain antibodies to the virus. That is why I said there was an immune component to the disease.
There is even a vacine that is now recommended to all older adults that is specifically geared to combating shingles.
Wonder if Phil is going to get a dose of it. Almost bet you 110% he does.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/shingles/vacc-need-know.htm
Some interesting stats:
I was actually looking at this to see what was the Phil Jones effect.
53 games. 66% Wins 35W 8D 10L
Some interesting comparisons:
Cleaverley
38 Games 76% wins 29W 3D 6L
Vidic
255 Games 71% wins 181W 42D 32L
Of current outfield players with over 20 games only Evans (70) Vidic (71) Rafael (71) & Cleverley (76%) are above 70%
The margins are small. Giggs and Scholes have both won over 60% of their games and players like Nani, Rio and Rooney are around 67%. Still, Vidic and Cleaverley stand out by several percent over their peers on this basis.
i just hope that jones will return
i fear the worse we are so unlucky
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/radamel-falcao-has-revealed-his-admiration-for-manchester-1293784
slayer @ 09:36: “Hopefully everything goes well against Everton match this week. Lets hope…”
It would appear that your wish is someone’s command: the GuardianOnline is reporting that Fellaini has a hip problem and might not play this weekend. He’s been a big thorn in UTD’s side in both matches in 2012 (at the end of last season and the beginning of this one).
Costas etc – This is the exact talk everyone said before we signed RVP, we got youngsters coming through, and look at the effect it has had, I still feel we need another CB, and certainly 2 CM players, 1 at-least this summer. We cannot go into next season with the same numbers in midfield and in defense, that would be asking a hell of allot from carrick. So I do expect competition next season for cleverly and carrick’s places next season. We id this in the summer of 2007, and that helped us win a PL and CL double
http://thebusbyway.com/2013/02/05/photo-welbeck-zaha-link-up-on-england-duty/
@Fletch
Indeed mate, you are absolutely correct about the immune stimulating effect of the virus forming antibody, hopefully the modern medical management will help the lad recover in time to face Real Madrid.
We have seen him at white heart lane playing in front of the back four, and perhaps Fergie is desperate to use him in the same position against the likes of Ozil and Cristiano Ronaldo.
iced earth
that’s a cool pic, our future indeed , superstars in the making.
@In David We Trust aka FITB, so hard to get rid of your old “name”
exactly,
Why we need midfielders even though there’s Tunni and Powell.
1.Fletcher is ill, will he come back to his best or ever to play for ManUtd?
2. Ando and Cleverley our mobile midfielders that doesn’t seem strangely to play more than 2-3 games in a row. Is it, because of injury, rotation or something else?
3. Carrick will play his part, but he’s slowly getting older, but I think if we use Tunni correctly he could have more gametime.
4. Scholesy seems now to be finished, cause he’s not even a part-time player anymore
5. Giggsy is a legend and has improved himself, more o nthe left, but can he keep us up in the midfield? I really doubt it.
6. Tunni and Powell. How much gametime will they get?
Basically we have 3 midfielders who can play, but one is injury prone (let’s hope not anymore) and the other somehow isn’t played more than 3 games in a row, slightly due to rotation but still you get what I mean. And then there’s Carrick who can get tired and injured, so what to do then?
As for Defebders, well Rio, Vida, Smalling, Jones. Rafael, Fabio?, Buttner and Evans are all great, but
1.Rio is getting old and be more as an experienced player and to motivate the youngsters.
2.Vida well is Vida, but will he turn to his best, I believe so, but will he get injured again?
3. Jones and Smalling, I hink they are experienced but they get injured, but I doubt it that this will last so no worry.
4. Evans is a fighter and doesn’t get injured
5. I really beliebe there is more into Michael Kean than Scott Wootton, so Ithink next season Michael Keane will be the one who will get a regular place into the team.
6. Wootton can be a surprise next season, but I doubt it, but then I doubt it for Evans also and look at him now, so let’s hope I’m wrong.
7. Rafa is Rafa
8. Will Fabio get back? I think so. I think next season it’s Rafael and Fabio for the RB, but Fabio will also be a back-up for Evra too.
9. Buttner is one to watch for, he will fight with Evra and Fabio next season.
Overview, we need more midfielders than Defenders.
peace.
Evans* hardly gets injured I mean
**Jones and Smalling young but experienced so there’s no worry about them, only the injuries.
Yup we should buy atleast two more players this summer ,, 1 cm and 1 winger, 1 left back should do it ,,
I think game vs madrid will be tough but I will go for 2-2 draw away at santiago and a 2-1 win at theater of dreams for united ,,
My guess at our team :-
david da gea
Rafa vidic rio evra
Nani carrick cleverly kagawa
Rooney
Robin van persie
I think our best team we can put
injuries are a player’s worst nightmare. hope this doom and gloom talk about our players getting injured won’t come to pass.
Epic,
EPLs top back passers this season….. Oh wait, Carrick isn’t one of them!
1. Nathan Dyer – Swansea City (58.8%)
2. Aaron Lennon – Tottenham Hotspur (58%)
3. Lukas Podolski – Arsenal (55.3%)
4. Shaun Maloney – Wigan (53.3%)
5. Raheem Sterling – Liverpool (52.4%)
scott is not in form, must be the injuries, another thread please.
thanks for that bit of info @fletch. still wondering how carricks’ missing from it. he’s played a whole load of games.
Red4ever – I think valencia would replace nani, apart from that, I feel that is the team that will lineup against Madrid
Debrenec goal keeper been found guilty (old story) for failing to report attempts by bookmakers to fix a result of a match. He was asked to let in more than 2 goals by said bookmakers against Looserpool in a champions league fixture. Unfortunately for his grand pay day he failed. Why? Because Fernando Torres and co failed to get enough shots on target that the keeper could fake to let in.
I laughed so hard at reading this that I didnt make the toilet, instead my dear wife will find in the cleaning cupboard a nice warm cable lying in the bottom of her mop bucket. Oh good times.
Fellaini hip injury my ass, they don’t want to risk him with friendlies either – he will play Sunday.
We need to control him and press these fuckers and the game is ours.
He was absent when city played them so they were lucky.
@In David We Trust and Red4ever
That’s maybe or strongest line-up, but I also agree with IDWT, I also think the best option is to put Valencia there and to hold up Ronaldo, and because Ronnie likes to attack attack and attack, Valencia will find openings there, no matter his form, the lad is the silent killer so he could do damage.
My preference is the one you put Red4ever, but I doubt it, maybe if we need goals at OT, then Nani from the start. No doubt that Nani will play his part at Bernabeu also, but the swap Nani for Valencia.
Looking through the squad we seem to be covered in most positions actually. Dont believe we need to buy upto three established players. Much rather prefer we keep investing in youth as we have been, with the exception of midfield. Carrick is carrying that area for now. More significantly Jones is not or rather should not be a converted midfield player. We have lost Fletcher, perhaps for good, Scholesy is probably playing in his last season, and Giggsy most certainly cannot start in central midfield. Defensively we have one established player in Michael Carrick and offensively we have Cleverley and Anderson that operate as pure midfielders. Kagawa is more effective further up the pitch or on the wing. Of the two Cleverley has looked more like a regular starter and Anderson continues to puzzle with form and injuries. We need a defensive or a box to box midfielder. And there really is no replacing Paul Scholes. Hope Tunni can step up and powell can evolve, but both need time. We need a player to bridge the gap.
In defense perhaps an auxiliary defender to cover for injuries in central defense is all that is needed, certainly depending on Rios contract renewal. On the wings as long as we keep hold of Nani we should have more than enough to trouble any opposition.
@In David We Trust and Red4ever
btw SAF could also add a surprise on the line-up, instead of playing Kagawa on the left, he’ll put Rooney there and Kagawa behind RVP.
4 options.
1st.
DDG
Rafa Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Carrick Cleverly Kagawa
Rooney
RVP
2nd
DDG
Rafa Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Carrick Cleverly Rooney
Kagawa
RVP
3nd
DDG
Rafa Rio Vidic Evra
Nani Carrick Cleverly Kagawa
Rooney
RVP
4th most unlikely
DDG
Rafa Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Carrick Cleverly Nani
Rooney
RVP
3rd ***
WeAreUnited – Na, I would play kagwa on he left, Rooney is much better playing off RVP, he plays deep and his ability to attack from deep is a dangerous weapon to have, kagwa can be very fable in the middle, he is not a great goal-scoring threat like rooney is, and rooney has much greater drive than kagwa. For me kagwa is the exact same type of player that david silva is, very clever on the ball, loves those one touch plays, cuts inside, and he is always on the move, but kagwa is also great at making it narrow, and with rooney playing the number 10, role we are basically playing a mutated 442 system. Like this
start off 442
DDG
rafeal ferdinand evans evra
carrick cleverly
valencia kagwa
rooney RVP
I is basic, we lineup like that formation, but the chess pieces are starting to move places, and the formation starts to change form, to this
The game ticks along, we start playing like this when we defend
DDG
rafeal ferdinand vidic evra
carrick cleverly kagwa
valencia rooney
RVP
You see the side’s moving pieces it is mutating, every time Madrid have the ball, valencia is holding the wide right position, kagwa is tucked as the third midfielder on the left, an inside left midfielder, but very narrow, Rooney holds the fort, the shield for carrick cleverly and kagwa, but rooney links up RVP. Now when we attack?
DDG
Rafeal ferdinand evans evra
carrrick cleverly
valencia rooney kagwa
RVP
This is where the lineup mutates into another formation, on the break, we change into a 4231 formation, RVP is on the go, Kagwa is doing a double tag team with rooney threading the balls through for RVP, it lets evra break forward on the left to give us width on the left, and valencia gives us width on the right. And this is how we do hit sides.
And everyone is in their right positions
RIP Busby Babes. From these ashes a team was reborn.
… against Everton.
De Gea
Rafael Evans Vidic Evra
Nani Carrick Cleverley Kagawa
Rooney RvP
… against Real Madrid
De Gea
Rafael Evans Vidic Evra
Anderson Carrick Cleverley
Kagawa RvP Rooney
Nice ideas 4 squad against madrid in bernabeu.. bt i would like to see giggs 4 kagawa& wazza on the left.. with giggs behind RvP so he can help clevs&carrick in the middle.. with Nani or Valencia on the right… Madrid are goin down guys, i can feel it.
Jus like this..
DDG
rafa,vida,rio(evans),evra
carrick
nani(valencia), clevz, wazza
giggs
RvP
with kagawa, ando, chica, welbs on the bench ready to pounce..
Madrid are going down..
A few people want to see Giggs start against Madrid. I find it surprising seeing the criticism he has received when starting games. I fully agree he can make a big impact from the bench but starting against a very dynamic Madrid team just seems like we’d be giving ourselves a disadvantage.
I’ve never picked a team for a match before so here goes:
DDG
Rafa Vidic Evans Pat
nani carrick cleverly kagawa
rooney rvp
Bobby Charlton’s…
I full agree with u, bt i’d think we need a guy who can help the midfield that day thats why i hv gone 4 giggs since ando hav’nt been in form lately& i like kagawa bt hv’nt been convinced with his diffencive side if game, thts why would like to see wazza out there..
Kagawa will give us a different dimension with his link up play, and along with cleverley and carrick will give us a chance to hurt them when we do have possession. We’ll have to defend well as a team, from thefront. I Wouldn’t be surprised to see welbeck starting for this one along with Rooney and Van persie.
Ddg, Rafael, vidic, Rio/Evans, evra, carrick, cleverley, kagawa, welbeck, Rooney, van persie
Its imperative we disrupt them playing from the back, and keep their wide players out wide.
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United will be playing very defensively in Madrid looking for a 0-0.
RIP to our legends,heroes,brothers,fathers and beloved Reds
Calling it now guys. Giggs starts in spain. It makes perfect sense too.
LW has been dire with the drastic lack of form of our wingers. Giggs has played there magnificently and id take him on the left over nani at this present moment in time.
Only other option is danny on the wings. I’ll take that to be honest. Danny has been superb for the team this year. This coyld be the making of some young players. Rafa, danny and clevs. Big game for these lads
No way should giggs play, we need legs, ppl forget the blue prints on how we beat shitty. We need has many legs has possible, so we can counter madrid, giggs will strip us of pace and guile
Giggs may be slower now, but he does not reduce our guile.
I’d also suggest that our average counter-attacking speed is far quicker with Giggs playing.
He more than anyone is always looking for the quick attack.
United will get overrun with giggs in our team, its suicidal to play giggs at the bernabeu esp in a 442 that the boss tends to play in madrid, ppl seem to forget the blueprints we had that beat shitty 3 2, we need energy in this away game, so the likes of cleverly valencia kagwa and rooney all must start, and I feel that is the only way 2 go against madrid
Let’s be honest, there’s 2 Giggs. The Giggs playing on the left is still a damn good player, the Giggs playing in the middle is not anymore.
@In David We Trust
sorry for the late response,
I also think it’s Kagawa on the left, but I just said that SAF usually surprises us, and Rooney on the left could be one, cause he could run and keep di maria quiet and Kagawa play behing RVP creating the game.
But I hope it’s not the case, and it’s the line-up you mentioned and others too.
Let’s hope Valencias goals against Portugal lifts his game up, just before we face Madrid
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