The Daily Mail has claimed that Wayne Rooney’s omission from the squad today, along with Jonny Evans and Darron Gibson, was down to the players going out for a meal on Boxing Day with their wives and girlfriends.
Word got back to the manager and the players were ordered to do extra training on Wednesday, which was their day off. The three players then did extra training this morning when the rest of the squad were preparing for today’s game against Blackburn.
Rooney was seen watching the game from the stands and the players have apparently been fined.
Man Utd News 24/7
We must wait for confirmation, but IF it is true then they cost us 3 points.
Those that were slagging Sir Alex for his selection earlier might show good grace now by apologising to our Manager.
I take it they were ordered not to stay up late and they didn’t obey? Fergie was right to show them who’s boss. It’s just a shame that we ended up missing the services of Rooney (and Gibson) in a game where we could have done with them.
Get your shit together lads.
Well if that one is true what a disgrace
Already down in numbers they should know better
Newspaper talk so first take it with a pinch of salt…
Still hard one to take though…
@ Smartalex – it’s hard to assess this without having the full details. Gibson and Evans both played the game against Wigan on Boxing Day so it seems a little strange. Would they have gone for lunch before kick off at 3pm? Surely the squad meets up around lunchtime on matchday anyway?
If it is true then what I would say is that this doesn’t automatically mean Sir Alex should be absolved of any blame – surely it shows naivety on his part to think he could ban these players – especially Rooney – and still win a game in which 3 points was essential?
Ok I have just read the story – they went out for dinner in the evening. I’m sorry, but this really doesn’t seem like a terrible crime to me, why should they be banned for going out for dinner on the evening after a match? It seems like a massive gamble to ban them for a fairly innocuous crime when we were already low on players, with no recognised central defenders or central midfielders – I think all three of those players would, in hindsight, have started today. I must say I don’t like the look of this at all.
A meal? If they went out clubbing, I could understand. Don’t know, seems harsh. Maybe some drinking went on? I’ll wait for further conformation from the club. Daily bollox, after all. Smalling has glandular fever! not. Players should know the rules by now though. If true, of course.
If its true than the said lads have pissed off the wrong man
@ smartalex
People calling fergie should apologise I still stand by my opinion on his selection was wrong.
In terms of these 3 then if true they have cost us the points.
I’m available for Newcastle
I was a cracking striker in my day
Sam – I hope that the story is not true. i guess we should wait a little before declaring where blame should lie, if that’s even warranted. The blame-game is bad enough without jumping the gun.
Shit I forgot we are actually out of defenders
And in a midfield crisis
No need for extra strikers then
Oh well for one moment I dreamed he impossible dream
the not he
The selection was still wrong.
@willie
It does seem a bit harsh, but we don’t know what the club’s rules are for partying and going out. Imo maybe we should have stopped at the fine. By dropping players from games we run the risk of disrupting the team’s momentum. As it happened today.
Giggs12Gerrard0
Have you read my reply to you on the Confirmed line-up thread? Have a look buddy.
It shows my current view on whether or not SAF got it wrong. Thanks
Sheeesh, The world trying to ruin my newyears.
The Sunday Mail has this on the Backpage spread….Reposted from earlier post
http://twitpic.com/81cxca
Already one trophy for the year.
19…….19 times……Champ19ns
United till I die!
They got axed for this !!! Blimey. I hope this is a joke. No fooking chance
Smartalex
Just seen it now buddy that’s fair enough, I guess I was just perplexed at Carrick at midfielders playing in defense and vice versa
Evans wasn’t going to play anyway. And I get why you punish Rooney by dropping him. But in Gibson’s case, he did him a favor. He escaped 90 minutes of booing.
8 minutes to go to new year’s and I am still here hahaha……… At a friend’s place and using his lap top…
I wish you all a Happy New Year, I will not go into making a list of names as i am sure to miss some….
For those who love me I love you too…..
Peace and joy to all
Just for context this is the daily mail
Of course because the Daily Mail is one of the UK’s most respected papers so they must be trusted!
Happy New Year RoM! Have a great year my friends! It is midnight here!
Midnight over here too.
Happy New Year to all of you! May 2012 bring health, prosperity, trophies and plenty of Berbagasms.
Storm in a tea cup Costas. They say, the boss has mellowed lol. Stick by what i said though. If it was just a meal, i don’t see a major problem. If they were drinking, that’s totally different. Jonny has form for this. He went out drinking, before Northern Ireland had a qualifying game. Not the Euros. The one before that. Wayne Rooney is the senior player here. He should know better.
Happy New Year Costas smartalex All
May the new year bring Planet Kidology into the world – finally
Number 20 (with injuries would be remarkable)
A sequel to the original would be nice
Can we all meet?
And a party full of Kebabs and Burritos
Pizza for Willie
Check out the article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2080800/Wayne-Rooney-win-Alex-Ferguson.html
Ferguson is taking on his biggest current superstar, Wayne Rooney, unceremoniously dropping the England striker for the game against Blackburn Rovers despite United already being without nine other injured international players.
The reason? Apparently that Rooney and his wife, Coleen, went out for a Boxing Day meal with team-mates Darron Gibson and Jonny Evans and their partners after a 5-0 home win against Wigan.
The went out to eat and drink to celebrate Cedars’ return to alcohol….I dont see the issue; as far as punishment, make Gibson start a new Twitter account and make Rooney shave his head again
The players should be free to break any damn rule they please. What the fuck! it’s Christmas time, and a man’s got to eat. stupid rules should be broken. The players should not listen to the boss. It’s their life. Fuck anyone else, the man’s hungry, let him eat!
Pathetic. Fit in or fuck off. No excuses.
MG – A wonderful year for you and your family is my heartfelt wish for you!
Thank you for starting this year 2013 as you ended last year 2012.
I see you Sir, clearly and accurately, and my vision is blessed.
Gibbo has always been on thin ice anyway, has never performed up to the standards required at manchester united, his transfer to stoke hit a snag and he probably had another chance to prove himself at this football club.
Still not good enough for united and if this has any truth in it then he can finally kiss goodbye to his united career.
As for Rooney and evans, well everyone knows that wayne isn’t exactly the type to be a role model for other players, evans is just starting to make his mark though so i’m sure he will be okay.
This obviously is just a rumour but i’m saying it how it is.
united.george
Hilarious my friend and fellow son of the cedars
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!
So if true we have supporters fretting about our teams display and we have players virtually saying fuck you’s we’ll follow the fans song were Manchester United We do what we want.
Sack the boxing day 3!
Woo woo!
Happy few beers!
Why is ROM citing the hatey mail!!?? Fucks sake stop that nonsense.
Wind your long neck in! Scott’s undercover in the daily bollox. It’s a well thought out plan. MG is Hannibal. smartalex is face. Cedars is mad Murdock. Suarez is BA.
I’m drunk.
Boxing Day was my birthday, they must have had the party without me.
Just as well, or they’d be in real trouble.
Longneck – I hope you find that the New Year threads make you happy!
Get back to us in 365 days and let us know.
I also love it when a plan comes together!
You haven’t done your ‘quick’ reactions yet Alex!
Could be nothing, just 3 players resting and concentrating on the Newcastle game.
What a strange game today…Berbatov continued his scoring form from the last game and got 2 but the stats point to missed chances up front.
The old fox is up to something with all these players out of position. He’s not out of his seat demanding more. Instead, it seems he’s being patient. Hope we reap long term benefits. Either that or he’s just stunned by our piss poor injury situation.
Did me and Cedars change roles?
Suarez is BA
Classic Willie
Thank you smartalex – wherever you are protocol be safe
19
There is much more to life than a loss
Especially with this club – if 58 Never had happened we’d probably have been all so different
But 58 taught a lot of us something special
This is life to be with fellow Reds and so we’ll just go again
19
If it’d true rules are rules,these lads are getting paid serious money compared to most people,not kids on a school trip,no responsbility is showing a lack of maturity and professionalism and disrespecting the club doesn’t matter if it was a meal or drinks
If its true then the manager shot the team in the foot, sometime I wonder what goes through the mans head.
We are lucky that others, accept Citeh, playing like shit. We are little bit better. I dont believe this. It doesnt matter that we have 50 points more that second, we cant play like that. We need playmaker!!!!! All europe need that, but we dont.
This result meant that Alex Ferguson is a person who knows how to appreciates kindness….
Reminds me of time in the sixties when Chelsea looked like winning the title and some of their players had a late night. Tommy Doc got wind of it and didn’t play them in a crucial game. Guess what Chelsea lost and also lost the title. If this is true about the lads then its a major own goal. The team SAF picked was a disgrace – playing a winger at right back and a right back in midfield alongside that world class central midfielder Park would scare everybody. The first half display was awful. The boss says that we have excellent future with Morrison and Pogba but he won’t play them.
Fergie if we are to win number 20 then stop tinkering with the team (I’m sure this has a lot to do with many of our injuries). The time has come to realise that City have the money to buy most of who they want and if we are to stop them we need to buy a world class midfielder, another defender and striker ( Welbeck is not the answer and don’t come up with hes an England International because if he was at any other club he wouldn’t be anywhere near the England team)
I heard this story at half one from a lad near me in north stand who said a steward had told him rooney had been pissed up. Don’t know what to believe.
Happy New Year!
How the fuck can fergie not tinker with the team when we have no fucking fit players? Ie no fit defence or midfield.
Happy New Year KE
I heard cedars has got your number – was he selling something lol
I hope Tom is doing good how are the late nights
19
Happy New Year King Eric! Best wishes for yourself Ruth and Tom!
pjch – The time to blood kids is not when in disarray. that may earn you a point but it’s more likely to put the kid back 6 months. If he struggles like all the other players are, fans idiotic will shred him, and he could be put back a year.
Why the explosions – have I missed something?
Is Harry taking over the universe?
Happy new year Republik!
Lets make it a good one, it could be the last! Don’t quote me on that, though.
2012 = Megan fox
Breaking News
Arry seen entering the Olympic Stadium
Olympic Stadium has become scene of unbelievable scenes!
It seems that the stadium isn’t a stadium after all but OH MY GOD!
A giant walking Alien!
And Arry is control!
Wait he is saying something –
JEFF I’M GOING TO DESTROY THE WORLD!
Happy new year reds
You Brits were always 2 hours too late.
So where’s the 2012 fella that will bring peace, justice and hemorrhoids at ROM?
MG. Happy New Year my friend. My sleep Is all over the shop mate. Yes met MikeKelly and James21 today in Sam Platts and James got hold of Cedars and I had a word. What a lovely man. Signed the banner too. James and Mike are top lads too. Good day today despite the result.
King Eric
I bet sleep must be hard – I remember
Costas
Better late than never
Yes where is this 2012 fella – are we all becoming billionaires or what?
Happy new year everyone.
Pcjh. Fuck all wrong with wellbeck back. We are fine in the strking dept. Fuck me how many do you want and who do you suggest? We have rooney berb hernandez and wellbeck. Fergie knows when the time is right to blood kids.
Same fucking folk crawl out of woodwork when we get beat.
Well, 8 more hours for new year for me, but for everyone else, Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year united.george when it comes to you mate
I’ve always wanted Heskey and Costas and Willie would back me up on that
Triffic player Heskey lad
Couldn’t face coming on tonight – sick as a pig after the game and couldn’t face the anguish/disappointment that you guys would be expressing adding to my own. But its one game, and its a new year. Happy New Year Lads!! Champions!
Costas & MG – I don’t think that clown posted today. I think he must have been banned yesterday along with the fake smartalexes, rohan19s and voices of the voiceless. They were all the same cunt!
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year Warwick
Happy New Year Fred
Never Die 58
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Goodnight Manchester United…
Happy New Year to all. Speant 3 hours broke down on the A1 great end to a crap day. Come on Reds a response is needed starting with the Geordies. UTD UTD UTD.
Happy New Year, MG!
Viva Heskey! He will bring CLASS and FINESSE to our ATTACK.
HE WILL BE HERE… THIS MONTH!
Happy new year lads . Sad as we are , we support the greatest club in the world.
King Eric
Red specks on again and calling someone coming out of the woodwork tut tut.
I saw my first United match in 1965 and have supported them through thick and thin. Remember 1968 till our first premiership win I do. I don’t want that to happen again.But then I have the right to put my opinion and todays game showed us lots about what is happening at the greatest club in the world.
Do you seriously think that our midfield is world class. Take away Berba and who was there to score goals Do you seriously think that todays team will frighten the teams frighting for the Premiership.
Respect all fans of this great club and opinions they have and not be so negative when they go against yours and others. SAF is the greatest manager in British football if not the greatest manager in the world but he has made mistakes – in mine and others eyes when he refused tosign a world class midfielder at the start of the season
pjch. bully for you. Doesn’t make you right because you’re older. Theres nothing wrong with Welbeck, he’s still learning his trade. As for your England comment thats total bull, Heskey doesn’t play for Utd.
Have we signed anyone yet?
Lol, happy new years RoM
So you can’t go out for dinner five days before a game…fuck me sideways. What a load of horse shit.
If that is the reason those guys didn’t play today then SAF has gone mad.
Fine them, give them a bollocking or whatever but don’t throw 3 points away over the head of it…
I’m pretty sure if those 3 were out on the lash on Friday night and played Sat we still would’ve beat Blackburn never mind out for dinner on Tuesday.
Pich .
Guttered and not normally up at this hour Agree totally but would add Valencia to the Berb not in the goalscoring but creating and by Christ do we need something special midfield.but will we get it?Ach away back to the party happy new year to you all.
Can hardly focus but while I can, the reserve league is pish poor and we tend to over praise our youngsters ie Pogba Morrison Tunnicliffe etc I say they are nothing like as good as we think and will be a long time coming through into first team on anything like a permanent basis. now back to the party for definate
Pjch. Err where did I mention the midfield pal? We had Carrick and Jones out today who have been excellent recently and tom and Giggs. I think we do need a midfielder yes but don’t you think Fergie knows this? My post was about the striking dept. We are more than covered up top and as James said what has your age got to do with it? I will ask the question again. Who would you llike up top? As from where I am sitting Rooney, Berba , Danny and Hernandez are well capable.
Well, I don’t trust the press, and even if it is true, we still don’t know the ins and outs of it. One thing’s for sure, though: Sir Alex wouldn’t drop and/or fine players without good cause, injury crisis or no. If he did drop them or fine them, he must have felt it was necessary, and I’ll stand by that any day. The minute a manager starts letting players get away with disciplinary breaches, the game’s over — he may as well resign. Those who think otherwise (including the players, if this really happened) do not know their history — Ferguson’s clean-up of the “United drinking culture” in his early days is legendary.
Today’s selections tempted fate but the lads who ran out on the field should have done better. There was a failure of application and attitude today, and that’s not excusable. I bet not one of those lads would have wanted to be excused, if asked before the match. Not one of them would have said “Boss, I don’t feel confident playing in that position.”
Anyway, put it behind us and move on. Happy new year!
pjch … in fairness, we don’t absolutely know that SAF refused to sign a world-class MF in summer. No more than we know that that Glazers refused to stump up the money, or that said world-class MF refused to be reasonable. We know the parties didn’t reach agreement, but we don’t know why. At least, I don’t. Not for sure.
What the Daily Fail also forgot to mention was. That Wayne made a a joke about him hitting Becks with a boot in the changing room (remember) at our Xmas quiz night and SAF said ‘You Will pay for that comment’.
The Insider *****
We are very interested in Javi Martinez but City have come in with a 35+ mill offer (up front). Unless we can match this or offer more, we could turn our attention back to Sneijder. I have also heard that our interest in Ganso is still their IF they lower their price. They are looking 50 mill euros, which is too much, when we can get Martinez for the same price or less. I know this isn’t a rumours page or a daily rag, I just wanted to share with fellow reds what i’ve heard.
Cheers and happy new year.
The Insider *****
Wow, some major inside info there. Cheers mate!
Sorry forgot to mention, we would have had Martinez in the bag. Until City came in for him to cover for Yaya Toure, who’ll be away to the African Cup Of Nations.
Speak to you soon (hopefully)
The Insider *****
Selection still wrong. Rooney still should play. It’s not that they went out clubbing. Playing players out of position will not get them to perform consistently. Carrick was massive in ctrl mid but he is playing def. Rafael selection in ctr mid was confusing at best. Perhaps there is tinge of over confident in SAF that he thought he can bulldoze blackburn given it was home game and against bottom of the pile. Respect must be given to opponents no matter what team are they. It is our love for United that we have opinion and that is in no way disrespecting SAF. We will bounce back of course and hoping for an unbeaten 2012. GGMU!
ABU’s are at full force again…We worked very hard to reach level on points with city after that 6-1 lose.But missed a great opportunity yesterday…yet we are still level on points with them…hope Sunderland will do their job against shitty….even if they didn’t we have enough time to reach 20…be strong reds…there is no need to worry about a lose as long as sir Alex is at the helm…he will get everything right …i will be worried if i am a Newcastle fan atm…
Happy new Year RoM.
I don’t think this news is true. Remember Evans was already out with injury so Daily fail are fucking losers. They just need one opportunity to bash our players and they got yesterday when we lost. Hell Chelsea having lost so much still doesn’t get Any stick but we lost one game and world goes Crazy.
We Will win the league. City will drop points and we will win.
BELIEVE
Pjch – i disagree with you, welbeck is a quality young striker, he has the all round game to match and is just starting to learn the game. Technically gifted and has loads more time to develop, he didn’t play as well as he has done in previous games against blackburn but certainly a quality player and that has NOTHING to do with him being an english international.
We underperformed. But more than that, I think the difference was that Blackburn didn’t roll over. Pressed us real well. They barely had chances. Apart from the 3 goals they scored, from our 3 mistakes. DDG has to take the flak for their 3rd. Well, if we had scored the winner first after going 2-2, and won the game, the whole aura around ROM would be different, with praises of a comeback capacities. Costly mistakes, let’s learn from it and move on.
Special mention for the Berbs though. Looked real sharp and good.
What has Rooney’s exclusion got to do with our defeat? He’s a defender?
KingOfStretfordEnd
Absolutely agree with you. We have to move on and learn from these mistakes. Last year Van der sar also made a mistake against WBA which cost us 2 points but we still won the league. There is still along way to go. If we play well then nothing will stop us from winning #20.
Let us Support our team. I again say City will drop points.
@KingofStretfordEnd
No, Rooney isn’t a defender, but Evans is.
@Ash
Cheers mate, Happy New Year!
Let’s get behind the team. Despite the loss and the premature exits from the CC and CL, I’m happy the way things have been going so far. We’ve been coping well despite whatever difficulties which have been thrown our way and is there any team in the world which has a team spirit like ours? I daresay no, and that’s why its an honour to be a United fan.
@Anon Payn
Haha, erm. You know my statement was sarcastic right? Lol.
KingOfStretfordEnd
Happy new Year Buddy.:)
Like you said we have coped very well. Any other team would have crumbled if they had suffered this much injury. We are doing the job in a professional way. Yesterday we didn’t and thats why we lost.
I am still confident we will win the league if our players play to their potential. Even yesterday we showed the desire to win but Bad luck happens.
On other note I am very happy for Berbatov. He is showing his worth again this season. He has a huge role to play.
Great work berba.
according to the website Rooney was out because he hadnt trained properly the whole week and has some strains,Secondly if they had been punished ,im sure the ‘meal’ they went to would have been more of a boozefest than a sober meal,c’mmon these guys are footballers!!
And it was us,the fans and SAF himself who suffered in the end.
Best of the new year to United and a happy new year to all Reds the world over!
People talk as if being an english international is the be all and end all. England have not won or even got close in any major competition for years, every average player has don the shirt, so why can’t a player of welbeck’s quality break in easily?
I hope united have some centre halfs available for the trip to newcastle. The sight of carrick (who should be in midfield) marking demba ba is very very worrying.
Once again happy new year to all.
Hopefully this result will make Fergie realize the importance of playing everyone in their right position. Ok, Gibson was serving his punishment, but there were still options. I am not a fan of throwing youngsters in there and let them sink or swim, but how much worse could this first XI have done?
DDG – Rafael, Jones, Evra, Fryers – Valencia, Carrick, Pogba, Nani – Berba, Welbeck
At least almost everyone would have played in their natural position and that could have made a big difference knowing the firm Carrick and Valencia are in. If Pogba was considered unready to start an EPL game, we could have started Park instead in a 3 man midfield.
That’s of course all in hindsight, but just offering my 2 cents. And anyone that follows me oin twitter knows that I suggested that line up before kick off.
@Fred
I think you may be right mate. ROM certainly feels a lot more troll free in the last 24 hours!
2012 Has Come. Wait is Over. The End is here.
HE IS HERE
DrumRoll Please.
Happy New Year lads!!
Disappointin end to 2011. Sir Alex didnt play those 3 and im sure there’s a genuine reason behind it. Punished or rested, the rest should hav played much better. Blackburn had injuries too, but they really impressed. There was discussion about United’s strikers, I feel we dont need anymore strikers. We already know about Rooney. On form, he’s the deadliest striker in europe. Hernandez was fantastic last season, n Welbeck has showed his potential. They’re in their early twenties n they’ll improve. N as for Berbatov there was so much talk about him not bein in Sir Alex’s plans. He’s scored 7 goals in 3 games which underlines tat he has an important role to play this season. Dont know why Sir Alex didnt sign a midfielder earlier this season, maybe its cos we hav Cleverly n Anderson. Those two were fabulous earlier on durin the games against City in the shield, Arsenal and Bolton. Whatever it is, trust in Fergie he’ll do the rest. The title is ours!!
Good morning Costas! You spoke a moment too soon!
I am Backkkk
Morning ROM, dissappointing day yesterday. But Chelsea also lost 3-1 to villa! And the spurs drew with 1-1 with Swansea! I hope city loose today or at least draw.
Happy new year
Thank you everyone for remembering me when I was not here. But I want to specially thank my friend smartalex who cannot spend a day without mentioning about me.
I love it when you keep on saying that every other person as sachu. It seems I am in your head.
@smartalex
Morning mate. Apparently I did. It was too good to be true.
Costas
Have to say I loved your 2013 character.
Now this is a reason I returned.
I stopped posting here 2 weeks ago and that day I vowed to myself that I will prove smartalex is an arrogant prick and a fraud. Then I Thought maybe smartalex only behaves to me like this and he is polite to others but when I saw smarty boy abuse others also I got to know you are a prick.
As I was busy till December 29th I started this 2012 campaign ,which was fun by the way. When I saw the RoM blog on December 30th and read all the post I was sure you were the one creating the problem. I don’t care if people don’t believe me but I am pretty sure its smarty boy who is behind this. But Unlike you I will not play the blame game.
I am just here to show to everyone that you are the biggest fraud in this blog
Happy New Years day to United and all REDS. Being a festive day, I will wish the same to Sunderland!
King Eric
Its 6 OR 7 not 67…….. hahahaha
Costas & smartalex
Good morning good friends
Thanks sachu. I might bring him back over the next 365 days.
I just hope a 2014 doesn’t pop up..
The End In my 2012 post means there will be an end to the abuses that smartalex makes to other people. It has to stop.
smarty boy your game is Over.
sachu
Seriously? WOW…. Were you not the one who complained about the lack of football talk on the blog a while back? Yet you bored us with that silly campaign of yours that apparently only you find funny. Then your first post, what a joke. On this festive day you offer no greetings yet simply write a long one to attack a regular.
You have serious issues pal
CedarsDevil
I have wished happy new year. And my 2012 campaign was much more reasonable than smartalex abuses and antics that he did 2-3 days ago.
Yeah I agree you will defend him as he is your friend Go on.
It seems there is a Pattern in RoM which is always followed and if anyone breaks that pattern he will be used. I will show you a example so that people can understand.
3 sweet RoM Regulars X,Y and Z (Don’t want to name anyone but you guys know who they are).The fun part is They are chatting something which only they can understand. Then a guy comes say A. He feels there should be more of football talk so he tells everyone. You know what the comment will be made to A by the sweet RoM regulars especially our smarty boy
And smarty will say – A you are a cunt, you are a plastic fan, You are not a RoM regular.
Then smarty’s next comment will be A you attacked me you attacked me(I bet you will be jumping and writing this Like a 5 year old kid) you are not allowed in this blog. Apologise or fuck off.
Am I correct smartalex? this is what you do.
smartalex needs to change his behaviour. He has hurt many peoples feeling.
Imo it’s time for the nonsense to stop. I’ve had issues with other posters in the past, but there comes a point where you have to co exist and ignore the other. I am not saying kiss and make up. That doesn’t always happen. But no need to dominate entire threads with fighting between posters.
@Cedars
Hi mate. I hope you had a blast last day. Feeling sore or hangover at all?
sachu
First off yes I will defend smartalex and yes he is a good friend. Trust me I have so many friends here that you would not believe, some that I now even know on a personal basis.
For someone who is allegedly studying medicine or has become a doctor you seem to have the mind set of a teen.
If you do not like smartalex that is your choice, no one will force you to. But your ongoing vendetta is very strange. Let it go already
Costas
Say that to smartalex . He has abused so many people and expects others to Respect him.
Costas
It was amazing I only managed to have 2 vodka martinis (Bond style! haha) and was out. My friends laughed their head off at me and rightly so!
Cedars-
Read my second post. Its him who always remembers me. He puts wrong allegations. Abuses people.
I don’t have any problem on you supporting him. Go on. But he is a fraud.
HNY to all at ROM. Whether this is a major breach of discipline or an overreaction from the gaffer, there’s no doubt Rooney and Gibson would have done a better job in the CM than the 2 there yesterday. You also have to feel now that Lindegaard should be trusted between the sticks for the foreseeable….
Expecting Sunderland to get a point today, keeping us well in the hunt, but yesterday was indeed a disaster.
As Much as I have problem With smartalex’s behaviour I get more angry when I see other people who know nothing what happened come and abuse the person who was attacked by smartalex for no reason.
But I seem to understand that as you don’t have balls to stand against Smartalex as you are afraid of him,.
I ended the day in a real slanging match with a cpl of Citeh fans who up to that point had been quiet . Our chance blown to overtake them even on a tempory basis . They were wound up like me ! As far as im concerned as much as we are fighting . We are still holding the door open for them .
Ive read here a meal is innocent. Well maybe, but its a challenge to club discipline ! They are well paid for some of the sacrifices they are asked to make . But do they not realise just how important it is to us not just to overtake Citeh but to occupy the moral high ground to ? S**t Day !
@sachu
It goes for both of you. I am aware that others have had the same issues with smartalex. But they’ve argued with him once or twice about it and then it was over. No need to hold grudges forever. It’s obvious by now that no one will change the other guy or drive him out of here.
Costas
Wise words pal
Hi Paul H. Funnily enough I was thinking just yesterday that I hadn’t see you around in a while. I hope you are right about Sunderland. New manager usually brings a fresh air around the club. Hopefully our ma former boys over there will be up for it.
@Cedars
Haha! It’s natural though. You needed some pre season training in alcohol.
Personally I woulkd have started with something different. I had an incident last month where 3 vodkas had me puking all night. Now I hate the damn drink.
*our former boys*
sachu
I do not defend people blindly, I have addressed smartalex several times in the past when I thought he was wrong or misunderstood a certain situation. I have also have heated debates with the best of friends on here be it football related or otherwise. A lot of people turned on me because of my stance against any signings last summer, I never held a grudge…
As Costas wisely said you just need to let it go and I am sure so will smartalex. Just get back to posting about football or anything else for that matter and move on
Costas
Haha, My pre season was the beer I had during the match! Mind you now that I can drink again I do not miss it as much…. Typical human nature, always want what we cannot have!
When reviewing results and considering the decisions made that led to the result; a reasonable man is careful to separate “making the correct decisions” from “making the decisions correctly”
- “making the correct decisions” is judged on results. For example: Playing Blackburn yesterday without Vidic resulted in a loss for United. That is an incontrovertible fact. It is an accurate review of a decision made and a result. That Vidic is injured does not get away from the fact that he was not selected, and we lost. The fact that the outcome would not be improved had we started the injured Vidic is not relevant in this instance. The judgement “SAF made the wrong decisions” is only dependent on the outcome. Did his decisions result in a victory? No, therefore he did not make the correct decisions required to achieve a positive result. This logic can be applied during any decision making review.
Judgements reached on “making the correct decisions” are and must be ignored when considering whether we “made the decisions correctly”.
- “making the decisions correctly” is NOT judged on results. The outcome plays no role whatsoever. The result only serves future decisions, where the additional experience is now available. Considering whether or not Sir Alex “made the decisions correctly” regarding our line-up against Blackburn REQUIRES one to be in possession of ALL the salient information available when the decision was made. It is incorrect to say that Vidic should have been selected, he is badly injured. Unless you know that fact, you are unable to consider whether or not he should have played, and are therefore unable to judge whether Fergie “made the decisions correctly”. Vidic’ injury was not the only consideration when choosing the line-up. If you do not know all the factors, you cannot judge whether the line-up was correctly chosen.
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Sir Alex’s selection did not win. It was not a winning selection. It is not possible to say we made the correct decision on the line-up.
It is also 100% WRONG to say that SAF is at fault. To say that, you would need to review the decision making process undertaken to know whether or not he “made the decisions correctly”. What information did he have? Was it thoroughly considered? What thus were his options? Which option is the best available? Did he chose that option? NOTE: The outcome may not be considered in this instance, for that information could not be included in the decision making process.
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We naturally analyze the loss to Blackburn, each for our own reasons. Know that any opinion you reach on the team selected is only valuable or relevant if you consider all the factors. As we are not even in possession of the basic facts, like who was available, a little humility is in order should anyone seek to GUESS whether or not SAF made the decisions correctly.
Happy New Year everyone
Hi Costas, you’re right, I’ve not posted for a good couple of months, but I have been checking the threads from time to time. Looking forward to seeing which top drawer CM we bring in next week and hoping that we get some shape back in the team before FAC R3…
Rai!
Great to see you here my friend, I hope the family are keeping well. Was on the phone with King Eric yesterday before the match, what a great guy.
Oh my goodness! It looks like smartalex is real popular again.
Good day Reds!
Has the transfer rumour bus started up yet.
Guess who’s back! I arrived in India day before yesterday and have spent the better part of the past two days trying to get back online and reassemble my PC (I fucking hate lappies!). After a year long gap, I saw yesterday’s match on cable instead of stream and we lost. I think I should stick to my old routine for United to win again.
First off, here’s wishing a very happy new year to all on the Republik. Since this is my first year on ROM, I would like to make some special mentions to people I have gotten to know on here.
Giles Oakley – Easily the best writer on ROM and the definitive Manchester United fan. This is the kind of fan I would like to be when I am over 50.
). Was absent for a bit this season but his posts always seem to make sense and are always spot on whenever he seems to post his epic ones.
Stateside Aussie – Ditto for this guy. If I can one day write as eloquently as Stateside, then I will consider my life fulfilled. I have rarely seen him get angry or pissed off and his arguments are presented in such a thought out manner that it becomes difficult to provide a counter argument.
Denton Davey – I’ve rarely seen eye to eye with him on the Berbatov debate and he misinterpreted one of my recent posts to mean that I did not want him to post again ever when really I wanted him to cool off on Berba a bit. Same goes for this guy as for the previous two, his thoughts are presented very articulately.
Costas – Arguably the most level-headed poster on ROM. Has anyone ever seen him get angry at even the worst sort of WUMs or Trolls. He presents his point so carefully to even the most inane post that you have to admire him for being so cool like Berbatov. Oh, and those back-and-forth arguments on Twitter are always a pleasure.
WillieRedNut – Our own Northern Irish United fan. I admire him for the same reasons I do Costas as he rarely gets worked up over anything. And when he wants to get those long posts on football going, there isn’t anyone better.
King Eric – Special mention to the King for welcoming a new Red to his family. The definitive source for United reserves news and when he says a player is good, you have to start following him ASAP because you know he will be good. His anti-everybody rants are always a pleasure to read and have only recently been overtaken by bobbycharlie’s epic rants.
smartalex – Nobody can play with words as much as this guy and his news updates are always welcome. His staunch defense of this club and his comrades in arms has earned his some criticism but you know this is one true Red who will always have your back in case of trouble. That is one of the highest praise I can give to anyone.
Kings & Rai – Veterans I’ve not gotten to know that well since they are probably pissed off by the atmosphere here but would like them to get back posting regularly.
MG – When you want someone to inspire you, this is the guy you look towards. Along with the top 3, the best writer on these parts and his posts have had me on the verge of tears time and again.
Cyril – Funniest poster on ROM. Period. Agent of Fergie is the new rage for United fans on the Interwebs and hope Cyril can continue to protect us from the dreaded ABUnati into 2012.
Fred – Scratch that, this guys is also right up there with Cyril. His posts have never failed to put a smile on my face even after some of our dreaded results. I love the fact that he always keeps the tone light and happy.
TonyBee – Nobody’s posts are so NC-17 rated and still can crack you up like this guy’s. His adventures with Cyril are an added pleasure.
slim – The cynical bastard on ROM. Always keeps it real and I fucking hate that. Still his posts are always a pleasure to read.
Dave Malaysia – This bastard thought I was a camel-humping maniac (hey, it could be true, who knows
Paul Parker – We mostly agree on a lot of issues and he is again one of the best football analysts on this blog.
MikeKelly, NRD, KOSE, Ash, RMW, G12G0, FletchTheMan, samuel, james21, parryheid,Captain Park, soren, portugeseprincess, theboogeyman, and the N-number of posters (all of whom I might’ve forgottem and deeply apologize for) who make this the best Manchester United hangout on the Internet – I fucking love you all and I mean that.
Oh wait… I seem to have forgotten someone. Of course, our very own Lebanese nut CedarsDevil – I’ve gotten to know him a bit more personally through e-mail conversations and I cannot think of anyone not wanting to be friends with this dude. If I have the same attitude towards life and United that he has at his age, I will consider myself happy. There’s a lot of things to be learnt from his general positive outlook towards life and I try to do that everyday. And of course, he has promised me a tour of Lebanon if I ever get there, and I am definitely intent on doing that if only to meet CedarsDevil.
To all those who posted kind words in the downtime for my arrival in India, I am sincerely touched by your words. Thank you all.
Here’s looking towards a successful 2012 and know that even if we fail to pick up any trophies, the ROM family is proof that the Manchester United family is the best in the world. There is not a single club in the world that has such a close knit group of International supporters that we’ve gotten going on here. What we’ve created under Scott the Red’s watchful eye is something really special and I think we should keep it going for as long as possible. Here’s to Republik of Mancunia – the best Manchester United blog on the Internet.
Special words to the admin Scott the Red – I can think of a large number of blog admins who would’ve cut down on a lot of the off-topic crap that happens on these parts and asked us to take it to the forums which is where it actually belongs. The fact that he hasn’t done that has actually surprised me. I don’t know whether he reads each and every comment that is posted on here, but if he does read this one, I would like to convey my sincere thanks for keeping this place up and running.
sachu – Thank you for fucking yourself in the eye.
I’m sure everyone is really happy that you destroyed this week’s threads.
Bravo.
Balaji! Welcome back to the land of the living, my friend!
A wonderful New Year to you sir! May you be enriched and fulfilled! All the best!
I don’t know whether the Daily Mail story is correct or just more press bollox.
Regardless, responsibility for yesterday’s defeat lies with the players who played, not those who didn’t, be they partying on Boxing Day or not.
It was nothing to do with SAF’s team selection either. With 10 or more players injured, mixing and matching and making the best of things is bound to take place. However, Blackburn had their own injury problems too.
Blackburn are shit but that’s not the point. Wins in the EPL have to be earned and opponents respected. We played like Arsenal on a bad day at times yesterday, over-elaborating or deliberating when a simple ball into the front men would have been the more effective option.
Lessons learned hopefully.
Balaji
First off Happy New Year, secondly welcome back, finally! That was some belting tribute to the RoM faithful and special thanks for my mention buddy
@Paul H
My hopes are based mainly on the latter. Given the timetables that the manager has given a numbers of defenders are expected to be back in tile for Newcastle and City. Can’t see us buying anyone else to be honest. But we could do with another defender I feel.
@Cedars
Lol, at least you have it as an option again. It’s nice to know that one can resort to drinking after watcing a Rafa-Park midfield pairing!
@Balaji
Hi new year mate. Good to have you back. Thanks for the compliments. I didn’t expect to be labeled as calm after all my moaning about the medical team.
Anyway, your posts regarding out formations are always more interesting than mine…
*in time for Newcastle and City*
Damn, the new year has brought new typos.
Costas
Some things will never go away my friend …..haha
On our goal keeping situation, the simple fact of the matter now is that Lindegaard needs to be our number one goal keeper. I can count 5 goals alone, off the top of my head, where De Gea has made bad mistakes this season. Some have been costly (yesterday, Basle away and Benfica at home), some haven’t (West Brom away, Arsenal at home). Even more worryingly is that his mistakes have been of a wide variety i.e. not dealing with balls into the box, dodgy fielding and bad shot stopping. I’m sorry but if Ben Amos had made this number of mistakes (he wouldn’t be given the chance to make this many) we’d never hear from him again. The way he dealt with the ball into the box away to Basle was very worrying. It was like watching they way an outfield player placed in goal would deal with it. I posted a while back that I’ve seen enough from him to think he’s going to be a good keeper for us in the future but I thought that he could be doing better for us. Well now I’m not so sure. I hope I’m wrong.
This isn’t about hanging him out to dry or looking for scapegoats for yesterday. Everyone is to blame for yesterday. Ferguson for his formation in the first half; I just can’t figure out playing Rafael in midfield. It’s not fair on the lad who actually had a good second half. Why oh why is everybody and his granny bigging up Pogba but still Sir Alex would rather play a right back in his position instead. I can understand not starting with Anderson as he’s been recovering from injury. De Gea was at fault for one goal yes, but so too was Berbatov for the first and bad defending for their second.
My point is De Gea’s start to his United career has been nothing short of disastrous and it’s time to take him out of the limelight. I’ve never known a rotation policy with keepers, at any club, and based on what we’ve seen so far Lindegaard has done more than enough to earn the number one jersey.
MG, Fred, Costas WillieRedNut and CedarsDevil
Thank you good sirs, for working tirelessly in my defense, especially in my absence. I cannot express my appreciation effectively in this message. My appreciation will be felt by you all in time.
CedarsDevil – good day, good year, good life! I’m sorry that it’s taken me 1½ hours to reply!
I was foolishly distracted by the fact that my name was all over the blog again. The most used word on RoM this past week. What a shame that you all are affected by his self-loathing, which he loudly projects unto me in public. Anyway, i should have spotted your greeting or called out anyway, sorry about that.
I hope you don’t have a babbelas (hangover) from those two beers. Drink it away!
smartalex
Apology not accepted as one was never needed my friend. For anyone not to like or even love you is beyond me to be honest. Red to the core, a guardian of any thing that is United and Sir Alex and to top it all you come across as a proper gentleman. That is my opinion and I do not care what anyone else thinks.
Balaji how was the thane storm mate …heard it was terrible and affected Chennai very badly..hope that didn’t spoil your new year mate….enjoy..
CedarsDevil, as has occurred previously, I blush redder than red!
You are a fine judge of character! Ha Ha Ha ! ! !
Thank you for being, CedarsDevil. You are the diamond in the coal.
Beer is carbonated. Drink more, and your facets will shine even brighter!
Happy New Year true friend Red-to-the-core CedarsDevil!
Balaji Sivaraman
Greetings,an opinionated man exactly my kind of man and even better they are your own.Big plus that.Happy New Year to you.
Happy New Year parryheid! I wish you health, and strength during your recovery.
Hello everyone, Happy New Year to all.
It was an awful end to the last year and the subject of this thread has ominous repercussions, potentially.
Footballers today are paid truly staggering amounts.
In return, they are expected to abide by certain requirements from their clubs, part of which are adhering to strict controls about lifestyle, eating, drinking and rest.
If, as a footballer you have been instructed to go home, not go out drinking etc, then that is what you should do.
Talk of ” it was just for a meal” do not wash with me if that meal was accompanied by copious amounts of alcohol.
True to say i do not know if that was the case.
No doubt we shall learn more over the coming days, but for £200k a week i would readily accept the strict limitations on my social life.
As manager, it has been demonstrated many many times that SAF cannot and will not have his authority undermined.
The same is true of any manager who is passionate about his job / club.
If, by allowing one of the bigger names the freedom to undermine that authority, what hope do you have in setting out clearly the standards you expect, to young, upcoming stars like Morisson for example?
After his flirtations with City (ok, alleged), the challenge now may be how Rooney will react to this.
I’m hoping it will be a positive one but confess i do so without huge confidence.
Regarding the Blackburn game, the writing was on the wall for me when all the talk seemed to focus on how many United would score.
We’ve seen all too often that it becomes the kiss of death.
You can get away with a makeshift defence for the odd game, 2-3 even, but at this level it WILL show eventually, regardless if you are playing the team bottom of the league.
Our season is going to hinge on how fast we can get injured players back.
Of all the teams in the world there is not one who , in adversity, can respond like United.
At the helm, thankfully, we still have the man who has responded accordingly time after time.
It’s a huge month for us and i still believe.
It’s in my blood
Happy New Year to you too my fellow Robbo loving friend……
Cracking post
It’s in my blood
To further add, I too still believe, always have and always will do
SmartAlex.
And to yourself Happy New Year.Recovery going apace since small corrective op thanks.
Balaji. Thanks for the mention my friend. Top man.
Byron. I agree fella. Firstly with the first half formation which frankly was bizarre. No shape whatsoever or balance. Their midfield were totally playing round park and rafa as expected. Rafa shouldn’t have plated there having been out for time. The secon half was much better balanced. Danny and Berb up top. Nani on left who I thought with many others was awful yesterday. His decision making was diabolical and summed up in THAT free kick first half where he passed five yard to a blackburn player and that ludicrous backheeled one to Jones. He wasn’t the only one. As Jonesy said we weren’t at the races yesterday. Berb bagged again and tony second half was quality. Rafa better at right back obviously and ando in midfield who wasn’t great but an improvemenr on the first half. Basically we had much better balance and shape. Also totally agree on Lindergard. For the third he would have taken the blackburn players swede off and not get bullied like David did SO easily. He is a big presence and summat needs doing. This swapping of number ones is doing neither of them any good. De Geas confidence will be shot so Fergie has a decision to make. Does he pull him out the firing line for a bit or risk his confience more? For me its the former. Anders bollocks his back four when needed and is also so assured. I like De Gea but and its not just him as I like the kid he cost us two goals yesterday. Yes the Yak shouldn’t have got through that easily for the second but how many times is he gonna get beat through his legs? The third was a complete calamity. Also good to see on motd last night anders going mad with Eric Steele when we scored. He is a big character that lad and reminds me in a way of the late Les Sealey.
Anyway was good, although no consolation seeing the rentboys get cut open. That Luiz is a fucking piss take and lampards gift for third was hilariuous. At least we don’t boo the side off like the Chavs did yesterday. Classless scum.
Gotta say though OT was fucking awful yesterday. You could hear a pin drop from the stands. But I suppose it works both ways.
It is just typical that I bet Citeh slip up today and we didn’t capitalise. Anyway a LOT of football to be played but like Costas I too think we could do with a defender as too many question marks. Vida out. Can Rio keep fit? The twins? We need Jones in midfield. Will Evans stay fit? Just need some numbers back. Carrick and Phil were forging a great understanding in the middle park then that fucks up. They were bossing games even against three man midfields. When Park is poor he IS poor. If Carrick had have been in CM yesterday we would have won that game. Simple as.
God Ando looks much fitter and constantly kept placing the ball down for Bunns goals kicks as that cunt was taking the piss yesterday.
Good to see young Keane come on. Didn’t have much to do but looked assured.
Anyway onwards and upwards. Right off for some kip now. Laters lads.
parryheid, it could be my imagination, but I have felt your lifted spirits since your return from the procedures. Uncertainty is the hardest cross to bear when faced with difficulties. Finding a road that can lead one to to a decent life changes one’s outlook and enables hearty attention to recovery. Now that there is a light, the tunnel becomes worth walking, and determination results. Keep at it Red brother, and plan on getting an iPhone. We don’t want to lose you once you’re fully mobile.
Had it been we av enough squard,can the three player affect us? Any way av given my self 3 red cards since our exit 4rm champion league..I DNT WATCH FUCKING GAMES WITH FUCKING SQUARD
Cedars
Hi mate, thanks!
Was thinking of you yesterday wondering if you’d get smashed to make up for the dry weeks/months!
Btw, where did you used to live in Manchester and what did you do?
No prob if you’d rather not answer that, just curious.
We need a match/victory to get this crap out of our system!
King Eric
Hi mate, welcome to fatherhood, many a sleepless night and the joys of getting little Tom to say ‘United”
in the not too distant future! (Oh the pride when it happens!)
Have to agree that the atmosphere in OT was dreadful, didn’t help the players either.
We don’t know which rules had been laid down for the Xmas week, Rooney had hardly played on Mon & was in training on the Tues. If as it would seem that he & others had, had too much booze on the evening before training, then he, Evans & Gibson have broken club rules.
The fact that this has been leaked smacks of Rooney’s agent playing up again, Rooney certainly didn’t seem to concerned or pissed off yesterday, would he have turned up for the game if, as suggested by the press, that he’s angry with SAF?
The team put out yesterday were good enough to beat Blackburn, yes we were unlucky with a couple of Mike Dean’s normally odd decisions but having got back to 2-2 the team took their foot off the gas and let Blackburn back into it. We need a true leader on he pitch and without Vida we don’t have one.
It’s in my blood
Of course I can answer that pal…. Used to live in Chorlton, went to school at St Thomas Aquinas later to college at Stockport Tech…..
My first drink in ages yesterday was a bliss, a taste of heaven! hahaha
Just finished watching the second half and have to say that was fucking appauling. Seen the criticism towards De Gea and have to say while he isn’t finished by any means like some are claiming he just looked totally disinterested. His body language from the moment he came out looked off, was more concerned with New Years IMO. Shocking for the 3rd, no excuse there and even though I thought we were unfortunate with the 2nd goal we conceded with the Carricks tackle ricocheting straight back to Yakubu, still think De Gea could have done better.
No qualms about the team selection and many others shouldn’t either. Everytime things go wrong we look to Rooney and as for Gibson you can’t slag him off for the best part of 3 years and then berate him when he’s apparently disciplined and therefore dropped. As for Evans he was injured so thats irrelevant.
We should be putting teams like Blackburn away ESPECIALLY at home. No knee jerk reaction but this team is showing too much complacency for my liking. Evans mentioned it regarding the CL group in an article I read on Skysports. Have the Palace game, Rooney saying we’re like Barcelona even though we were leaking goals left right and centre. Then yesterday there were too many players who didn’t earn their wages. We have loads of injuries so we need to make the most of it, couldn’t have handpicked a better game to cope with it but alongside our CL group, Palace and yesterday we let ourselves down bigtime.
Totally disagree about the critcisim about Nani, he was fucking trying little was coming off but he had the ball the most. If the wingers aren’t putting in the assists its up to the other players and for me Park, Welbeck and Hernandez were all poor. As for his haircut, I think looks pretty fucking cool, what a players hair has to do with anything I’ll never know. Furthermore had something similar years ago and the photo still up in the barbers to this day, so I take it pretty fucking personally when you start the petty insults about a persons hair. Quite frankly its bitchy and belongs in a ladies magazine (No offence ladies).
As for this story about Rooney, Gibson and Evans going out I don’t know what to believe, It may come across extreme but with all this sport science today, it must have something to do with diet and rest especially with the number of games we have over the festive period. Remember watching a Sky Special years ago on Rio and he got some twizzlers from the cameraman which he used to eat as a kid and was saying “don’t let Carlos (Quieroz) find out I’m eating these before training!!” I mean 2 fucking twizzlers!!! Thats how detailed this sports science is.
The solace we can take from it is that IF and thats a big IF we get a lot of our players back we’re in good nick for the rest of the season. There is no guarantee of that, we’re half way through the season and being within 3 points of the top (worst case scenario) isn’t that bad. We need to buck up our ideas in January though like I said last year, nerve wracking yet exciting at the same time.
sachu. I don’t really have a problem with anyone on here, I genrally say what I see. I must admit the 2012 post was so funny I had to sew my split sides up through constant Laughing. Not!
Talk about bigging yourself up, what an Ego you must have.
Give it a rest mate.
Balaji – Thanks for the compliment pal. We missed your contribution around here.
Good to see you got back, safe and sound. Happy new year mate!
Cedars
Used to live in Chorton too, Egerton Rd Nth !
It’s just that Manchester’s a relatively small place and if you used to frequent the nightlife in the centre then theres every possibility we may know some of the same people.
I spent waaay too much time clubbing it in my younger days.
Ah memories!
Northern Ireland must rejoice for they have a son that is commonly known at RoM as Willie
Sounds like you had a blast last night my friend
It’s in my blood
Remember a nightclub called the Millionaire? Was probably the only one in Manchester at the time hahaha…. We later moved to Clarendon Rd and I spent my latter years in Buxton….
Great memories and who knows I may have bumped into you several times! haha
Its in my blood. Stop telling lies. We all know there are no Man Utd fans in Manchester or the surrounding areas.
I used to look after some houses on Sandy Lane when I was living up there and spent too many nights out in Manchester. I miss the city nightlife, used to be fantastic.
James21
Yeah I have Ego but not as much as smartalex has. Anyways Happy new year to all.
sachu
Yeh it shows. Happy new year.
Happy New Year to all ROM members, lets hope for a great footballing year. In Sir Alex we Trust.
Evans and Gibson are not good enough to play for the club anyway!
We should have sold shrek when he threw his toys out of his pram, and bought Agurero!
We are in the position we are due to the Boss, he needs to take responsibility!
I know he’ll turn this round though..
UNITED WE STAND!!!
Cedars
Remember the Millionaire?
Mate, i practically lived there!
Pete Stringfellow, brothers Geoff and Mike?
Even after they sold it i went regularly.
100% i will know you!
As well as the Millionaire there was Brambles and later Applejacks.
As for Clarendon Road, when i left home my first flat was on that road. Weird!
James 21
Haha, as we all true Reds know, we outnumber the bitters IN Manchester by a mile!
Red74
No mate we should do everything in our power to keep Rooney. He’s our powerhouse and a footballing genius. Pls I know you meant it as fun but don’t call him by names made up by rival fans.
Aguero was always going to shitty and Utd never had any say in the matter.
Brigadier
Happy new year mate.
Cedars – I had a very drunk night lol. Started with bud, then went on to vodka. I heard you say before about living in Chorlton? MY mate lived lived in Wythenshawe for a few years. Got a girl pregnant. Couldn’t heck it though. Came back home lol. He still goes over to see his kid. He brought her and the kiddie over to Belfast a few times. Nice girl. The kid is his double.
It’s in my blood
This is weird! Could you be my long lost brother of sorts? hahahaha
I would bet my last penny that we have met somewhere along the way
It’s in my blood
I’d bet my mortgage on it. Manchester is Red and always will be.
Red74
You say ‘We are in the position we are due to the Boss’ What position is that exactly?
I do love a clarification
Willie
What’s new? You buggers have always crossed over and knocked up them gorgeous English babes then buggered off! hahaha Just ask Best (RIP)
Cedars
You’re not that guy who still owes me £500…? haha
I agree, we WILL have met my friend.
When / if you ever return, be sure to get in touch.
I’ll probably let you off the money!
WRN
Hi mate, Happy New Year.
Whats with your mate, coming over here and taking our women….blah blah….jobs….etc!
Bloody foreigners eh?
Oops sorry mate, the Suarez in me coming out! Hahaha
Hmm and Collen tweeted the night before the game that “the girls were watching eastenders and the boys were watching the footy” shouldve known something was not right caus normally Wazza would be with the team at the hotel preparing for the game.
For the self righteous armchair experts who smugly told us yesterday was nothing more than a small blip, our master disagrees:
Sir Alex Ferguson – “It is a disaster”.
It’s in my blood
So that was YOU? hahahaha
Will sure be in touch if I make it back in March pal…. Already have a few meets with some regulars here and it would be a pleasure to catch up with you as well….
It’s in my blood – Ha ha. It’s that Irish charm lol. The English lasses can’t resist!
Happy new year pal!
Rai – Just noticed your post mate? Hope the wee one is doing well? Happy new year to you and your family.
Red Neville
Every time we lose its a disaster for the boss, and by your claim of ‘self righteous armchair experts ‘ I take it you are an OT regular ? Just asking
What significance does your question have? Just asking.
You made the claim, I asked the question, which you failed to answer and if that is not significant for you then I do not know what is …..
Are you an OT regular? Cannot be placed more simply than that
Maybe you are unfamiliar with the English phrase “armchair experts”.
What difference would it make if I had never seen OT or live inside the ground?
The point is armchair experts told us yesterday was just a blip – as if it didn’t matter. Fergie disagrees.
I will take your word for it….. although you have still failed to answer my question ……
Simple yes or no would do
Yes, I live inside OT and sneek onto the pitch at night to feed the mice before snuggling up under the seets.
That’s a cheesy story.
Excellent! Thanks for finally clearing that up. so you are a rat of sorts?
Rats don’t feed mice. Ask Santa for a book on Zoology, a book on humor and a book on logic for Xmas next year.
Ahahahaha will do……
Red Neville
Been great to have a bit of fun banter with you…. You come across as someone with a great sense of humor….
Happy New Years pal
If true Fergie had a dilemma.
Stick by your rules and risk losing points like we did or break you rules for your best player.
Imo he did the right thing.
Morrison is often banned by the club cause he’s breaking club’s rules.
How would it be if a Rooney could do these things without facing consequences?
And to you CadarsDevil, although im sceptical about these happy new years, I’ve heard about them in mythical terms – haven’t had one yet or known anyone that has had one. But it does no harm to wish and to try to enjoy our moment in the sun.
Happy New Year.
Balaji … just saw your earlier post — cheers to you, pal, but you are way too generous. Manchester United can be proud to have fans like you and I wish all the best to you and yours!
@Balaji
Thanks buddy,feeling honoured for the mention! Happy New Year mate!
Its in my blood. Hello mate. Thanks a lot. Tough night last night. Got up for footy at seven yesterday morning and got home at seven. Tom didn’t kip till three in morning and then I was up at half seven again. Had a few hours kip this aft though. In the word though of that eco cunt Chris Martin “nobody said it was easy“! Hope you are well pal.
The daily mail have ALWAYS wanted the downfall of United. ALWAYS so they will take advantage of the SLIGHTEST opportunity to try and create some discord. Rooney was not the only player punished but OH the daily mail forgot to read about evans and Gibson cuz to them they don’t matter. COMPLETE NON STORY. Rooney is back in against Newcastle. the world keeps spinning.
oh yeah i forgot. HAPPY NEW YEAR FELLAS. Enjoy a successful prosperous New Year. Same for Fergie and the boys. starting with a demolition of newcastle on the 4th.
dannysoya – plus the Daily Mail has a reputation as being a racist, xenophobic paper. Breaking this story was an opportunity for them to push the Suarez racism report further into the background.
In fact, I just looked on their football page and there is no mention of the Suarez report whatsoever! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/index.html WTF?
Happy New Year, Danny!
We got away with a black eye
smartalex says:
We must wait for confirmation, but IF it is true then they cost us 3 points.
Those that were slagging Sir Alex for his selection earlier might show good grace now by apologising to our Manager.
why are apologies in order….with all our injuries if this is indeed the case to drop all three was stupid in my opinion. in playing the wrong players in the wrong place at the wrong time this smacks of complacency as it was proved in the second half by some subtle juggling…. and in by doing so we almost clawed our way back into the game
and before you start Smartalex…. yes I still think that SAF is the best manager we have ever had ….but even on his own admission he sometimes plays mindgames which never work…. and for that reason SAF GOT IT WRONG
if it is true that these three were dropped for going out for a meal with their wives and partners against club orders then they should all be bollocked and rightly so….but not at the cost of us losing 3 valuable points ….just imagine what would have happened to our playing style if they had been on the pitch….
King Eric….. welcome to fatherhood fella……. it will get worse before it gets better…
bless them though they are so worth it….
Fred SPOT ON. and a very happy new year to you too. Tony Bee. EXCELLENT POST THERE.
Red Neville
You seem to be frigging hilarious and I think I really like you! hahaha Loved that last post
Citeh slipped up……we were lucky, Rooney back for the clash at St James Pk on wednesday
Citeh slipped up……& failed to capitalise….HOORAH !!
we were lucky, Rooney back for the clash at St James Pk on wednesday
TonyBee
I fail to see how it is okay to slag off the Manager for not starting Rooney and /or Gibson if they were not available. Hence, in response to this thread’s rumour that they had been suspended, my comment was:
“We must wait for confirmation, but IF it is true then they cost us 3 points. Those that were slagging Sir Alex for his selection earlier might show good grace now by apologising to our Manager.”
If someone had slagged off the Manager for a different reason, I was not referencing them here.
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Hoping this finds you relieved.
yours truly, star of stage, screen and radio – smartalex
ps Please sing auld lang syne for me!
Fred, Interesting if true mate. So Mail has never commented on Suarez ban?
Has anyone found the Rooney bust up story or the drop for breach of club rules on any other reputable british site?
SPORT360 Claims that Rooney was injured based on club statements. Club seems to be denying the Mail story. Never sounded right to most. Move on then
http://www.sport360.com/article/rooney-injured-not-dropped-insists-man-utd?
Yesterday Sir Alex said “Wayne hasn’t trained well this week, he’s missed a few days and we’re hoping that he trains today, tomorrow and, by Wednesday, he should be okay. It’s little strains here and there.”
Hers’s hoping it ain too late….SHouold auld aquatutunce be fugot and neveer …etcetc….
FletchTHEMAN – I tell a lie, I just clicked on the link again and the Suarez story IS there. I’m sure it wasn’t there earlier, honest! The fact that it has garnered only 30 comments compared to the 99 comments on their salacious Rooney story tells its own tale though.
Fred – That’s a common trait with Suarez’ side of the story. A bit all over the place, really.
Things that weren’t, are all of a sudden there; everybody suddenly remembers the new story,
then it’s off on another tangent. i wouldn’t be surprised if that Mail story is also being rewritten
to suit it’s listeners.
Hello everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks god sunderland beats man city 2day and some darts on sky sports 1
Guardian is reporting that Rooney is has accepted his punishment and there is no rift with Fergie.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/01/wayne-rooney-manchester-united-discipline-meal
I agree Boochy baby!
Well reds. May I thank Sunderland From all of us for brightening up our new years day .
I bad a barrage of gloating messages from shitlands supporters last night.
Watching that goal truly lifted my spirits. The expectation of the bitters dashed in such a Painful way.
Happy new year to you all. Let’s hope it’s a good omen.
Can’t believe Booch likes darts. That’s really put me off her.
Anyone agree or disagree?
Sorry I didn’t read all the posts from u guys…but if this is true ur telling me that they got fined and punished for going out to dinner with their WAGS after beating Wigan 5-0? I mean they weren’t out partying all night…come on
An Old Trafford source told The Sun: “The issue has been dealt with and the players involved have been disciplined. That’s the end of it. There’s no rift between Wayne and the manager. The matter is closed and Wayne will be available for selection against Newcastle.”
It seems gibson and rooney didn’t train too well on the 27th as they were a little worse for wear after their ‘night out’ on boxing day. No curfew was broken – it seems it’s down to being too bollixed to train the day after and this was brought to the gaffers’ attention. Who knows what would have happened if they had played but our chances would have been far greater with them.
murty – If I may change slightly your final words, it is more accurate to say:
“if they had played our chances against Blackburn would have been far greater with them.”
“our chance” to win the League and remain at or near the top of English football is much greater if the players are fit to train, and do not make a mockery of Sir Alex’s request that they take it easy and “not be seen out-and-about” The discipline definitely IMPROVES our chances of being and staying at the top.
Offthe topic. john o’shea pleased to do his old united mates a favour. Good man. Pity brucey was not in charge to do his old mate SAF a favour.
If Brucey was in charge, who’s to say they would have won?
Fred – Of course they would have won with Brucey in charge, he’s a Red!
Ignore those other losses you read about previously, that’s just the ABU press trying to tarnish his good name. No United legend ever lost a football game, the ref always ended it too early (unless it was AGAINST United, in which case he was smashed by our irresistible quality)
Sir Alex said: ”We’re trying hard to get Rio Ferdinand for [Wednesday] and Ryan Giggs which would make a good difference to us. Anderson should be better, he had 45 minutes on Saturday after four months out. There are no other ones to come back immediately. And Wayne Rooney will be available of course.”
”We had a few training sessions which he missed. You’ve got to be fit to play in this league, you can’t miss training sessions.”