Wayne Rooney has remarkably claimed today it angers him when people question whether he really intends to stay at the club or not.
Just a few months ago, the player released an official statement saying he had no intention of getting in to talks to agree a contract extension with the club. He had a meeting with the club and decided Manchester United’s ambition did not match his own.
It is clear that Rooney was talking to other football clubs behind United’s back. Who hands in their notice before they’ve found a new job?
After apparently seeing the light and eventually signing the new deal, people have wondered whether he really intends to stay, or whether the club just wanted to get a bigger asking price for him, like they did with David Beckham and Cristiano Ronaldo, who both made plans to join Real Madrid a year before leaving.
“I saw that, but I’ve never seen such rubbish in my life,” said Rooney. “My relationship with Sir Alex has no problems whatsoever. I’m enjoying my football here and if I was going to leave in the summer I wouldn’t have signed a new contract when I did. I’ve signed it and I intend to see it through to the end. You get angry when people question you. On Sunday I was on the way home from training. I stopped off at the garage to get petrol and a few people asked me if I was leaving in the summer. I didn’t know where it had come from. I said, ‘Where did you hear that?’ and he said it was in the newspapers. But I’ll be here until I’m well into my 30s. I signed a new contract to stay here and unless I’m ever not wanted then I’ll be staying here, that’s for sure. I admit I made a mistake like I’ve said lots of times, by saying I wanted to leave, but I’ve committed my future to United and I’m happy and my family are happy so there’s no reason for me to move elsewhere. I want to try and win more trophies and bring more success to this club.”
After spending years kissing our badge, telling us he wanted to be a United legend and claiming he was never going to leave, only to tell the world he wanted out, it’s understandable that fans and the press aren’t going to take him for his word anymore. Is Rooney angry that people don’t believe him anymore? Well, that’s a shame. I’m sure it’s very irritating. Still, it’s not as embarrassing and hurtful as the situation was for us but I can totally see why it would be annoying to have people asking whether you’re really going to stay or not wherever you go.
But maybe he shouldn’t have betrayed and been so dishonest to the club and fans that have done nothing but good for him since he was 18-years-old, then he’d have nothing to get angry about. He admits he made a mistake and now he has to live with the consequences of that.
This isn’t an issue of the mistake he made though. My issue is with him getting angry with the fans who question whether this time he’s actually telling the truth. How dare he get angry with a fan for thinking it’s possible he’s lying to us again. How anyone can think it’s acceptable for him to be angry with us for even questioning whether he’s being honest or not is beyond me. Bonkers.
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1st? MMMMMMMno
Rooney looked great the other night, him and Chicarito have a great partnership!
Give the guy a break Scott, old news. If you doubt his passion for the club watch the marseille & Arsenal games over again
It’s in the past let’s move on
Really find all this ‘first’ shite annoying. Get a fucking life.
As for Rooney just read in the Evening news that he thinks that his ankle has healed only last month! I’m this has been the reason for his disastrous loss of form and not anything psychological.
Yes, he admitted he made a mistake and apologised to the fans… but you want to keep on kicking him? Get over it, man. All you’re doing is making yourself look a child.
Really Scott, give the guy a break.
He’s a kid for god’s sake and made a fucking mistake!
get over it lads, he just needs to do the talkin on the pitch..
OFF TOPIC: “Manchester City captain Carlos Tevez has been spotted in the company of Marseille players.
The Daily Star says Tevez spent two hours in the Marseille team hotel in Manchester yesterday giving them the lowdown on United.
But it seems former United favourite Tevez is desperate to do all he can to ruin the chances of Sir Alex Ferguson’s men.
The Manchester City star, who has not spoken to Fergie since leaving Old Trafford in July 2009, was seen chatting to Marseille defender Gabriel Heinze at the Radisson Hotel.”
Get over it scott you boring bastard.
I can tell you how happy I am that the first three responses on this page are positive ones. I love Rooney. We all know what he made was a mistake. He said it himself too. But now, he’s here. He’s still playing out of his skin and position, and he’s a manchester united player at the end of the day.
Think we have made our feelings towards Wazza known by now, and think its time to put it to bed.
At the end of the day he is still a young lad, only 24, and was given the bait to do what he did by Stretford.
I wasnt and havent been happy with Wazza’s attitude… but recently you can see that his effort, committment and fitness is coming together, and while he is wearing the shirt, we must give him our full support.
Keeping the bad feeling towards him going on is only gonna be a negative for Rooney… The Team,…. and The Club…
If he puts performances in like he did against Marselles week in week out, then i am more than happy to forget…. as we have all done silly things in the past, and we would all be hung, drawn and quartered if peeps i had pissed off in the past held it against me forever.
Boring!!!!!!
For the love of God can we drop this one. He’s finally starting to play well at a crucial part of the season. He’s admitted he was wrong and now wants to stay at the club into his………..
Do you know what, I’m even boring myself now, let it go, we’ve more important things to worry about
Rio probably out for season says fergie on sky sports news
the PRICK.
Oshea out 5 weeks, Raphael out 3
Vidic should only miss bolton game
Rio gone for the season maybe. Certainly puts that stupid Rooney article into perspective. 3 points against Bolton and regroup. I’ve never been so happy for an international break in all my life
Keano86, you`re the prick!!
Amazed see so many people defending Rooney here. Let’s be clear, I didn’t just off the top of my head decide to lay in to him. This is a response to him claiming he gets ANGRY with fans for asking whether he’s really going to stay or not.
You clearly all think it’s acceptable for Rooney to be ANGRY with United fans for wondering whether he’s telling the truth to us this time or lying again.
Fucking pathetic.
Good article Scott and I see your point however I reckon we should get behind our players at this crucial part of the season. We all know how dishonest he was and I sure havn’t forget how he treated our club but lets leave this story for scum journo’s to wank over.
On a seprate note, this “1st” bollocks is way beyond a joke now! It reminds of when I was 7 years old and I used to race my mates to the ice cream van and shout FIRST and get giddy cos I won the race. Grow up you morons and stop making this Blog look like a kids playground!
Rooney’s a great player, but he betrayed the club. A betrayal is never forgotten.
Ah come on, we all make mistakes. The lad is trying to bury the hatchet and move on, boldly saying he’ll be around for the next 30 years. Time to cut him some slack. There is so much besieging of players on this site rather than support the club and it’s players. Why are we still ranting about previous indiscretions? He’s done us proud of late, time for us to to recognise this and get behind the lad.
gerkeo
that’s very disappointing if it is true, I was expecting him to be available for the trip to upton park
FWD
a 24 years old, should be able to know the consequences for his actions
personally I would never forgive him for what he did and It’s not childish as most of you are suggesting, It’s my Passion( no disrespect to others) thats not allowing me to forget such venom that he has thrown at the club, and I feel Scott is right in asking if he still had the nerve to get angry after what he has done.
I will support him when he is wearing our jersey but only as a part of the team
Strongly believe that the entire charade was carried out to let the Glazers loosen their pockets in the summer.
I guess you could wait till the summer and if we do end up making an unexpected expensive signing, you could try to join the dots together.
For now, I guess as long as he gives his best till he’s wearing that number 10 jersey, the commitment shouldn’t be mocked at.
You`re fucking pathetic scott…grow up,Im no happy that he wanted to leave,but he never!!! he plays with passion for utd and on his day he is our best player..get behind him ffs you`re starting to sound like a spoilt little girl.
Yawn… , get on with it already…
Sir Alex says Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic are both unavailable for
the weekend clash with Bolton. Vidic should be back after the international
break . Jonny Evans could come back in ” but it ‘s a risk as he ‘s been out so long ” .
John O ‘Shea is out for five weeks , while Rafael will be missing for two or three
weeks , both with hamstring injuries . On Rio , Sir Alex adds worryingly : ” We may
be lucky to get him back for part of this season. ” More updates from the
presser. . . ( GT )
- Injuries to defenders: “We ‘re having a bad spell. Only a few weeks ago we
had every defender fit . We ‘ve got the bonus of Wes Brown being able to play
centre- back and right – back , and Chris Smalling has been brilliant .
- On midfielders and other team news : Fletcher is still suffering from a virus.
Anderson is doing well running wise and getting close to a return . Owen
Hargreaves trained all week which is good news . Park has been training and
may be on the bench on Saturday . Michael Owen is available.
- On FA charge: ” It ‘s disappointing. This is the only industry where you can ‘ t tell
the truth . But it ‘s in the past. I ‘ve not decided about appealing. “
Good post Scott,im with you on this one
well it seems the event was reported with some opinion added, what is this ? a blog?
I agree with you scott, people are coming on slating you but obviously don’t understand what the article is about. He’s not slating rooney here, he is merely pointing out the fact that rooney has no right to get angry because fans don’t believe that he is going to stay, he gave up that right when he held the club to ransom.
Absolutely 100% Scott. Rooney mugged us all off, said he wanted to leave because of a lack of our ambition, eyed up City to get himself a payrise, and then MERE MONTHS LATER gets angry at us when we question if he is being genuine?
Isn’t it a valid question post-Torres and Carroll?
i agree with scott. to me, the jury’s still out on him and i, personally, will find it very difficult to trust him like i did before. he showed such passion for our badge, being a scouse and all and to request for a transfer like he did, it’s just inexcusable. i’d love to move on from this episode but, sadly, i think this will haunt us for a while yet. he has a lot to prove to us. he can score as many goals and clock up as many assists as he can but he needs to do more than just that to prove his loyalty to the badge.
i havent thought about the perspective scott tried to bring in here….
i have got one message to rooney if you are getting angry with fans the then we cannot help it..
you are to blame for your fluctuating mentality…but he is comming back it is also true..
Rooneyisclass –
Rooney HAS NO CLASS.
Class is a word used to describe people like Giggs and Scholes.
Rooney is a fuckin prick for what he did to us – that scouse bastard had all of us thinking he was actually loyal to United and he decided to embarrass the fans, the manager and his team mates.
People come on here saying to lay off Wayne and we should get behind the team bla bla bla – well was he getting behind the team when questioning our ambition?
I’m with STR and ancha on this one. Does he have some nerve thinking it is ok just coz he signed?
STR will put what he wants. He dissed our club, the players that we count on to beat Barca/Real or whoever and even win the trophies we are in contention. You play for the club you stick with it and when you think it doesnt fit your standards you leave and dont give lame excuses. He is here now and improving his form, well and good but he has to deal with the consequences of his actions of not being trusted.
@ Rooneyisclass
Show some fucking respect you fuck, would you go into a friends house and throw insults at him because he disagrees with your opinion? Well this is STR’s house so show some manners. If your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend treated YOU the way Rooney treated United would you be so forgiving? I think not. Rooney acted like a classless prick and thoroughly deserves the ire of the fans who pay his wages……….I’ll applaud his goals cos they help the team, but I’ll never chant his name again as what he did to the club, the fans and SAF made me feel physically sick. Also you might want to read the article properly…….either that or get a more intelligent friend to explain it to you…….as far as I can see Scott is not slagging Rooney off, he’s merely pointing out the hypocrisy of Rooney saying he gets angry when asked if he’s leaving…….kind of like the anger WE felt when Rooney very publicly said HE WANTED TO LEAVE!
I agree with Scott 100% as well, and I’m surprised that so few people really do. Rooney has really let the team down, and it is not going to be easy for us to accept him back into the family so easily.
Scott : He says he made a mistake (I assume he means listening to his effing agent). I think he is allowed one mistake! I would much rather have him at United than not.
Guys, why are we hating on each other!!? We’re all entitled to our opinions, most certainly Scott! Keep it in perspective peoples.
I agree that Rooney only has himself to blame for all the doubt that has been cast amongst the fans. He’s impetuous to think people have short memories and are as quick to move on as he has. Still, Heinze he’s not, he still wears our shirt, he still plays for the club and is improving weekly. Let’s accept that he’s human and move on from that. And i’ll bet that the media has made more of a meal of this than actually took place. See how twisted those bastards are? Look at what they’ve said about Nani this week….
Fucking ABUs.
shit happens…….
and for rooney it was a professional one….
but i am happy that he stayed…
Let’s not forget how much of a twat Stretford is and the part he played in all of this…….
Angry or not, I don’t think he’ll ever leave now. He really shouldn’t question fans who doubt him for good reason, but rather show with performances and commitment on and off the pitch from now on where his future lies.
fully agree with FAILSWORTHDEVIL
we need to support our players… they are human…
whilst i can see scotts point, i think supporting our players now is best for the CLUB
I’m sure when Rooney says he gets angry he means that it is annoying that people question him. Something most people would feel. I very much doubt that he reacted to those people at the garage in an angry manner.
Wich hunt. Stop it Scott…it’s pathetic.
Berbatov is a rolls royce…..grow up you sad twat,I ve been watchin utd for over 35 years,players come and go,and players make mistakes,rooney made a mistake,and yes I was gutted when he said he wanted to leave…but he NEVER left…..and in my opinion he wants to put it right,but pricks like you and scott cant forgive him,all this negativity is not good for the player or man utd.If the manager is man enough to forgive,then thats good enough for me.
You see Scott I take a different approach to Rooney’s comments. The fact that he admits to getting angry tells me that he wants to stay. Unless of course he’s lying about getting angry but then of course where do we draw the line with believing anything he says. If he tells me it’s raining do I check first to see if he’s pissing on my shoes. Just fed up with the whole fiasco at this stage. Body language is a big thing in football. Torres body language suggested he was always going to leave. Rooneys did too for a time but recently he’s just starting to look like he finally realises where he belongs. This is my last comment on the whole Rooney staying/leaving situation, unless of course he leaves……..
Blaming the agent is a small excuse, the top guy pays the wages and the top guy makes the decision in this case Rooney wanted to go and the agent just did what the player wanted or he wont be an agent.
Support our players, start with Gibson, Bebe and Obertan
Wednesdayx says:
Rooney’s a great player, but he betrayed the club. A betrayal is never forgotten.
Totally agree with this comment above.
I find it very hard to casually label what Wayne did as a little ‘mistake’. He bent our club over and fucked it royally. Now he has got his massive pay packet, it’s only a matter of time before other players start doing the same. Fergie should have fucked him off as soon as this shite started. Players have always been happy to take less money than they would get at Chelski ,for example, to play for our great club. If £250,000 per week is anywhere near accurate, in our financial situation, how is this possible?! As we have known for a while now, football is well and truly fucked in our country.
I can understand both why he is getting annoyed at it, as well as why people are asking it. If Rooney is being truthful about signing the contract to stay, just imagine how tedious it must be to be asked the same question over and over again, which is now doubt happening, especially when if he picks up a newspaper he reads how he intends to leave in the summer when he didn’t say that (Once again, this is if he is being truthful).
What he doesn’t understand though is that the reason people are asking him this is because they are scared that he will leave, because although he has publicly claimed he is going nowhere numerous times, if you keep reading in the paper that he is going you are inclined to think there would be no smoke without fire.
I think you need to lay off Scott a little bit, all he is doing is commenting on a brand new bit of news from what Rooney has said, so it isn’t ‘old news’ as some of you have stated.
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@ Rooneyisclass(less)
Well done on the 35 years if support………it’s just a shame you haven’t learnt anything about the ethos of the club in that time. Class = SAF, Bryan Robson, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Eric Cantona, Sir Bobby, Sir Matt……..need I go on? I don’t hate Rooney, nor do I like him……but class and loyalty are not virtues he possesses……ask SAF, Moyes and Colleen! It’s gullable people like you that make it easy for the ABU’s to snipe at us for idolising a muppet who fucks his club and their loyal fans…….you’re correct when you say players come and go, but fans don’t….I’ll still be here when that greedy fuck is spending his millions in his retirement. And don’t kid yourself, he stayed because he got a huge payrise, not through loyalty. “he made a mistake”…..no mate, a mistake is a shit backpass, or a missed open goal……what he did was a betrayal of the highest order. I won’t boo him, nor will I cheer him and I will certainly never forgive him.
Scott ladf I don’t think at all Rooney is getting angry with the fans but the media mate.
Aah . My apologies Scott. He does infact say “people ask you” so not the papers then. Sorry.
Scott, I was with you in the start, and still kinda are. But as I’ve said all the time since he said he was staying; If Fergie believes its for the better of the team, then I’ll stand by his words. I’m not a particularily wise guy, but I know for sure that you don’t question SAF! Yeah, I understand the nosewrinkling about his quotes this time, but as other people say, its about time to put this to bed. Trust in SAF.
if you read what he said.i it says he gets angry at the newspapers for constantly saying that he is leaving. he was describing the situation where the person asked him the question. if he reacted badly it would have splashed over the papers. and where does it say it was a fan who asked him.
I don’t get why so many of you lot say he betrayed the club when keono took this club for a ride about his contract and you worship him now. Rooney is a Manchester United player and i support anyone who has the b**ls to put on OUR SHIRT. If he wants to stay great if he doesn’t then we will deal with it because this CLUB always survives. While he is at the club i will be wanting him to score and play like he has been doing over the past couple of weeks because thats what will get us num 19 num 4 ans num 12
Respect to Robbo he is a true fighter
He should have fucked off to City. Why respect someone who doesn’t respect us
I can’t believe some of the negativity i’m seeing on here! Have i inadvertently stumbled upon a Dippers blog?? Because i’m pretty sure UNITED fans wouldn’t speak in that way about their own. Keep it constructive guys. Hurling insults at fellow supporters, who have the same passion is not cool.
The media exasperated the whole Rooney saga, and behind closed doors i bet it was much less of an affair. Lots of things conspired against the club at the time, and let’s not kid ourselves lads – everyone fucking hates us. But that spurs me on. I love the fact we are so passionately hated. It makes claiming the 19th that much more enjoyable, that the very idea of it makes me want to come in my pants. For my sins, i live and work in London, i haven’t always lived here, but i’m surrounded by woeful Chelscum and Arse fans, and they bitch lyrical about anything that tumbles at United. I would rather the hate was outside the club than within it, we’re better than that AND those other classless fucks.
You can spin it all you like, a situation blown out of all proportion but the lad is still with us. No one can deny lately that the fire in his belly has returned and he is playing like he really wants to be here. So i say, let’s separate ourselves from the pathetic diversions and recognise we have a great club with great players AND a great history. Rooney did bad, now he’s trying to make amends. No one is saying the incident should be forgotten, but give the lad the benefit of doubt for making the RIGHT choice. And that choice is Manchester United.
It’s easy to say I love you, much harder to prove it. Rooney proves he cares on the pitch and that’s all that matters to me. The guy once was one of us, or so we like to believe. He stopped being that when he became a professional who is great at what he does. It’s easy for us to criticise, to judge. But in reality we have no clue what it’s like living the life of a professional footballer.
I think some fans are still living in a romanticised era. Don’t get me wrong, that is no way a bad thing. But why do expect a player to love our club? You tell your boss you love your job when in reality it’s the money and responsibility that you enjoy. A footballer kisses the badge and say how much he loves the club. In reality he loves the money, the prestige, the boost that adoration brings to his ego. Who the hell wouldn’t enjoy that?
Utd fans are the best fans in the world. I truly believe that. We can be a bitter, resentful bunch sometimes aswell though. Everyone hates us..so what? I love it. It makes us stronger and drives us to achieve more and more success. Those who seek to destroy our great club are inadvertedly strengthening us!
We all have our gripes and this aspect of the Rooney issue is Scott’s. He is allowed that. I get annoyed at the constant anti-Tevez and City chants at every home game when fans can’t even be bothered to sing for a truly great servant to the club like Patrice Evra. Yes taking the piss out of City is great. But we can’t claim to see them as a joke when it appears that we are becoming as obsessed with them as they are with trying to get one up on us. They used to beat us fairly regularly once you know before they were the play thing of a Sheikh?!
Fans should be allowed to continue to question Rooney if that’s what they want to do. Just like fans should continue to chant and laugh about City and their delusional ‘fanbase.’ However, let’s not be delusional ourselves. The era of players loving the club as much as the fans claim they do is over. Money has seen to that. A player kisses the badge. So he must love the club and the fans? Doing it on the pitch is the way for players to show they care, to identify with the fans. Can you really ever doubt Rooney’s commitment in that respect?
I think everyone’s opinion on this matter is clouded. Scott is pissed off that Rooney is getting angry at people asking him whether he’s really staying. Well, I am with Scott on that one. He has no right at all to be angry at anyone. Let him do his talking on the pitch.
Then again, I find guys like Rai don’t understand the world of modern football. Rooney made a mistake. I hated him and still do hate him for what he put me through in those 2 weeks. But I would rather have him at United putting in performances like the one against Marseille than anywhere else. You can see that when he is back to form and playing like he did on that day, he gives a 100%. So, stop with all the bullshit about he should’ve been sold to City. It’s bollocks.
Scott and so do other United fans have every right to get angry at Rooney when he says he is angered at people asking him those questions. By the same token, people commenting here should understand Scott never made a statement about whether Rooney should be here or not. Scott was simply pissed off that Rooney has the nerves to be pissed off.
So, whether you support Rooney in what he did/is doing, or want him to be outright sold (I think you’re an idiot!), read the post entirely before fucking replying. Don’t just read the headlines and post 1st or 2nd, it makes you look like a complete doofus.
We’ll see in the summer if he wants to stay,or if the club wants to keep him.He has let the Genie out of the bottle with his I want away and if some of the dopey clowns on here think the club and him wont be tested by offers coming in close season,Get real.
Look,
At the end of the day, he’s probably just saying he’s angry to express how committed he is… also supported by his claims that he’ll stay till he’s 30.
Now I know that can be far from the truth based on experience but only time will tell.
But what I do know is that he’s giving 100% on the pitch and we’ve only got so many games left this season, I sure would like to see less arguments on how Rooney should or shouldn’t feel like.
Everyone is taking this way too literal.
Maybe in “ANGRY” he means ‘I made a mistake, I regret it and I just want to get on with it’ or maybe not… Who gives a fuck!
At least there is no mystery injury for Rooney. He’s not hiding, away from all this shit. I had my say at the time, when the story first broke out. He made a mistake and I’m sure he’s sorry for It, but is it not time, for everyone to move on and concentrate on getting this league won?
Rooney is not the same to me after his ‘I want to leave’ rant. Jersey with his name was actually thrown out, the wife found it & hang it over my chair. BUT… if he continues to score or provide assists to Berba, Chicho or whomever scores, he’s given. But he’s still a prick until he SCORES the winning goal against Shitty at Wembley! Then he is forgiven.
The hatred part for me has probably waned over for me, now i just feel … indifferent. When he’s wearing our shirt, he better play properly, and that’s what he’s been doing the past few games. There’s no more ”Oh its just a bad day in the office for Rooney”. And when he scores its no longer the same, I cheer only for the fact that United are a goal up.
He’s got no right to be angry. He may be a brilliant player, he is, but no one’s bigger than Manchester United. And till now, I don’t understand why is his song being sung so loud. Seriously, Berbatov or Chicharito deserves more. Way way more.
@KingOfStretfordEnd, Indifferent – Exactly the word I was looking for. I don’t think hating him anymore is the answer since he is giving his all on the pitch. Indifference is the perfect answer. He will just be another United player. No more booming voices for him. We cheer when he scores and criticize when his performance wanes – just like we do for every other player. No more special treatment from us.
Agree with Scott on this. Of course people won’t believe you. You asked to leave 10 months after you said you wanted to stay at the club for life.
On another topic, it’s funny how quickly some have jumped to Rooney’s defence today after a legit arguement by Scott.. Just yesterday, our top scorer was called shit for no reason and I was one of the few guys to defend him. And I don’t think that we need to argue about who has truly shown his royalty to Man United this season. Rooney or Berbatov..
But there’s no doubting his brilliance. Had a stop-start season but till now he’s scored against city, arsenal and chelsea. Big game player no doubt.
Gullible??? dont think so fella,Im a proper utd fan who is 100% behind ANY player who pulls on the red shirt…you wont here me getting on carricks,o`shea,obertan. or gibsons backs,whats the point of that?? I might not like rooney,but he plays for utd so I love him!!!! As for making it easy for the ABU`s,who gives fuck about them?? To me its knobs that dont get behind our players play more into their hands..
He doesn’t have the right to be angry. He lost that privilege when he did what he did back then. OK, he’s playing some good football in recent times but that’s what the club pays him so high for.
So shut up and put up some good performances, Mr. Ambition. Our personal relationship and bonds have long severed when you chose to fuck the whore. Opps that’s Colleen’s. Let me rephrase -
Our personal relationship and bonds have long been severed when you chose to talk to Ciddeh, behind our backs. Now, its strictly professional. So get on and get the 19th title for us, like you’re paid to.
This pissed me off enough for me to write my own blog on it.
http://www.fivecantonas.com/wayne-rooney-stupid/
I really don’t like Wayne Rooney’s attitude. “HOW DARE THEY QUESTION ME?” is basically the exact same attitude as a chav walking down the street and asking randoms “WOT U LOOKIN AT?”. People are perfectly within their rights to question you especially when you have given them a DIRECT REASON not to.
His performances are improving but there’s no excuse for behaving like a twat and swindling the club for money. I don’t think I can ever forgive that incident, and it’s not his fault. We have been pampered with the likes of Neville brothers, Scholes, Giggs, Butt, Cantona and the likes at least on loyalty and as I considered him part of this list, I feel betrayed. Probably the standard set is high, but we are Manchester United, Wayne Rooney deal with it. The incident is forgotten not forgiven and I don’t know if I can ever wear your jersey again in my life.
As a United player he will have my support whilst he wears the shirt. Will he ever be idolized and loved as a United great by my household? Not likely
Afternoon reds
You got no right to get angry Rooney. With the shit you had done in the past, how can you get angry with the fans if they don’t trust you?
I have just been through a disciplinary procedure at work and put me through millstone when anyone at work asked me about the investigation I would tell them where to go.Rooney pissed me off when all the shit was going of earlier in the season about his contract and im not sure now if he is going to stay or go and im not really fussed but the bottom line is we the fans never get to find out what really went on the other fact that comes into play we havnt got a pot to piss in
Really find all this MOANING about ‘first’ shite annoying. Get a fucking life.
Whats that got to do with Rooney?
Scott,
From the comments, I am not really sure if he is angry with fans or just angry and frustrated with the situation.
It could be that he is just trying desperately to put the entire sorry episode behind him, but frustrated that it keeps being brought up.
“Where did you hear that?” He could also be really pissed off with the media. Who wouldnt be?
I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt.
“How dare he get angry with a fan for thinking it’s possible he’s lying to us again.”
Bullshit.
Why are these idiots stalking Rooney? Rooney has said in media that he will not leave. It may be truth or a lie. But if you keep on asking him, he will say the same thing, wont he? What is the point of asking him again and again? Why are people irritating Rooney by such stupid behavior? Any person would get angry at being hounded like this. and has right to be angry.
Only time can tell whether or not Rooney will stay. No one will believe Rooney after all that happened. But making a dumbass of yourself by needling him is idiotic behaviour.
Another thing, Scott, if you are expecting Rooney to be apologetic or meek for whatever he has done, then forget it. Rooney admits he made a mistake but he is not going to dive into depths of guilt for that. He is like any of us, people forget their wrongdoings soon once they are past.
Atleast Rooney is justifying his wages these days and scoring big goals. Get on with it. I will celebrate Rooney goals, if no one else does. If people can sing Viva Ronaldo, there should be Rooney-Rooney too.
Rooney has no right to be angry with the fans,rumor has been kicking around for a week unless players are so insulated they don’t even read newspapers.rooney could’ve quashed this the day after and he wouldn’t have been asked the questions its his fault and only a natural reaction from fans
Give him a break Scott. Yes, he made a mistake, but he rectified it fairly quickly and has shown
himself to be a vital player for us of late.
Please don’t get all “Becks” with Rooney too.
Let it go. He’s still here and he’s playing well…end of.
Surely we want Rooney to be angry when his commitment is questioned?
It indicates that he might actually intend to stay.
Getting more angry with him for showing the very commitment we crave, is merely indulging our own embarrassed egos.
I am angry with Wayne for being angry with me, as I too question his loyalty. I also prefer that he is angry, as then I might be wrong about him, and it is best for United if he is committed to us.
Still on “The Rooney Issue”…
I’m just glad his game is fantastic. I’m glad as long as he wears the shirt…
“You talkin’ to me?”
STR
I agree with AnomanderRake – that he is getting more angry with the whole situation rather than the fans.
Imagine saying your girlfriends not as fit as some other bird and then your girlfriend finds out about it and threatens to leave you cos of what you said, then you realize that you’ve actually got a pretty fit girlfriend already and you don’t wanna lose her so you say a heart-felt apology and try and forget you ever said it.
then imagine people on the street coming up to you asking how things are going with your girlfriend 24/7, asking if your gonna break up again soon and shit like that. you’d tell them all to fuck off.
I can understand where he’s coming from 100% but it doesn’t mean his ‘torment’ is any less deserved.
A lot of angry men.
Your anger, sustains me.
@smartalex: lol no was not and actually find ur post interesting and very true.
Bruce Banner was an angry man.
Shadi, hi mate, all good! Thanks for that. As willie says, anger can sustain, so IF that is what is getting Rooney going, we actually need more of these articles from Scott!
Oh come on – maybe, JUST MAYBE, he was expressing anger at the press for planting ridiculous stories which lead people to question him? Maybe he’s angry at the fact that people are questioning him, not because he’s acting like a prick again, but because of purely fabricated stories. Maybe, just maybe, he’s angry at the situation and not at the fans asking him questions about his future. In short, give him a break! Even if its what you think it is, I see nothing wrong with it – it suggests that he carries real guilt about what he did a few months, is past it, and is back to being passionate about being here!
12 Angry Men is a brilliant movie. A must-watch courtroom thriller.
smartalex – Henry Fonda? Great film.
I think it’s time to move on. For me, what Rooney did was unforgivable. The sight of SAF’s face during that infamous press conference will remain with me forever. But in all probability, this whole thing was engineered not by Rooney, but by his agent. Does that give Rooney a free pass? No, it doesn’t. But successful agents are masters in manipulation (that is essentially the nature of their job). I don’t know how smart Rooney is or isn’t, but Stretford’s ability to turn his head doesn’t surprise me, frankly.
I don’t think Rooney has any right to be angry over the continued speculation, but at the same time, I think we should all just move on. Or let me ask the question a different way: would you prefer Rooney to fuck off, even if it meant the team was less effective? I am not suggesting the team would be less effective without him — obviously, that would depend on his replacement. What I am asking is, what’s more important to you, fucking off Rooney, or the welfare of the team?
well put Stateside…
Further to Costas’ comment at 12:33 regarding the attacking and defending of United players.
Many fans ignore the despicable lies and slander that is vomited on this site every day, but have the time to attack Rooney, Scott and fun-loving commenters. You attack our own for little or no reason, without defending our absent heroes from heinous attack in the same blog.
Show your committed love, instead of your selfish apoplexy.
He kissed Everton badge too when he played for them. Loyalty doesn’t come into mind when you’re discussing footballers.
I don’t think he was angry at the fans. Knowing Rooney, he’s phrased It wrong. He probably meant the article in the paper.
Exactly willie, i reckon it’s more a case of that than anything else. Guys, don’t let the media corrupt your minds!!!!
One of the few who agree with STR here… he has no right to be angry, at least not until he’s still banging the goals in in 2013 or 2014.
Meanwhile, I wouldn’t agree that he’s back to the Rooney we know. Yet. Hopefully we’ll see that Rooney in time to lift the 19th.
“How dare he get angry with a fan”…..erm what fucking fan did he get angry with? If he was angry with anything it was with the article not with the fans questioning him. Fuck sake Scott.
I wish I could make a “mistake” that doubled my pay or close to it.
Scott your missing the point completely, he aint angry at fans asking him is he leaving, hes angry the papers are continuing to write these stories even though he signed for 5 years
Gorse Hill Red – if you find the first thing annoying then its you that needs to get a life, and a sense of humour.
On topic
Rooney probaly never intended to leave he just wanted to blag a massive contract. I just wish he went about it differently!
At least he has his looks to fall back on!
Infiltrator!
What this got to do with scumpoo?
If he means angry with the fans, he has no fucking right. He treated us all like idiots, lied to us and wants us to take whatever he says at face value? No chance.
Great, great player, never my idol again, sorry. Unless he wins us the Treble this season. Then I’ll forgive him wholeheartedly.
agreed with mozza79
there’s so much drama about this rooney thingy
@ Rooneyisclass
You don’t like him but because he wears the red shirt you love him………!! This makes no sense……..so by that rational you would stand behind serial arsehole John Terry if he wore a red shirt? You would chant Marlon Kings name to the rafters if he wore a red shirt? You’d praise El Hadj Diouf if he spat at someone whilst wearing a red shirt? Get a grip man, the shirt doesn’t make the man…….take off those red tinted glasses pal, you might see things a little more clearly, an arsehole is an arsehole, no matter what colour his shirt is………..
I personally no longer trust anything professional athletes (in any sport) say. The only thing that counts is what they give on the field. Best not to waste OUR precious time and energy worrying about what they say.
On the Rooney issue, I wont try to justify his actions last fall but from what I understood from Sir Alex’s comments about this drama, SAF suggested that perhaps Rooney was influenced by his agent into engineering this maneuver in order to strong-arm United into giving him a bigger wage package. Granted Rooney should’ve had more fortitude and not let himself be influenced by his manager but that is the reality with Rooney. He has been and always will be heavily dependent on that greedy jackass’s council. Unfortunately, not everyone is like Gary Neville. Anyways, I mentioned this so that people remember there most certainly was another devil in room when all this happened last fall.
Anyways, what’s done is done. And if Rooney can significantly help us to win No.19 and maybe a couple more trophies this season, I think he will have earned his paycheck.
@willie … I agree, and in fact meant to mention that in my previous post. My reading of his comments is that when he referred to “people” he was actually referring to the press. That was the context of his remarks: that “people” asked him about something that turned out to have come from the rumor-mongers in the press.
Everyone in this sorry saga needs to get over it. The relationship won’t ever be the same. We know that, and we know it is ultimately Rooney’s fault, and it’s sad. But what are you gonna do? You can’t rewrite history. And even if we fuck Rooney off, who said his replacement will be any better (in terms of loyalty/attitude)?
At this stage, my expectations of any professional footballer are that he should try as hard as he can to help the club be successful, he should be professional about it, and that, while in employed, his public comments and behavior should be respectful of the fans, teammates and coaching staff. I don’t expect or even want any statements or acts about being at the best club in the world and intend to stay forever, or badge-kissing, or anything like that. When it does work out like that, with guys like Giggs, Scholes and RedNerv, that’s a bonus — and a great one.
Agree with Scott. Surely Rooney isn’t entitled to be getting angry after what he did?
smartalex
i completely agree with Costas’ comment, but i also believe that that both of your shear non-negotiable commitments to STR’s views are blinding you from legitimate counter-views in this ever on going debate.
It does amaze me that the super stars of football believe they can make the wages that they do and not come in for a certain amount of criticism over their outlandish behavior. The Prince (formerly known as Rooney) has shown us repeatedly that he is as thick as a plank. So be it. But this is just another example where it is clear as day that he does not have proper advising. WR10 needs a new agent. I might trust his words, just a little, if he didn’t have that prick bluenose Stretford as his agent. Hmmmmm, what is GNev doing? Maybe player management should be on his agenda?!
WR10, shut your yap and stick to playing football. Get a new manager, stay low, maybe we will stop asking reasonable questions about your loyalty. Yah, in about 10 years….
Berba,are you trying to tell me rooney is the only arsehole ever to play for utd?? I get behind any player who plays for utd….but hey i must be wrong…….Tommy doc shagged a memeber of staffs wife,did the utd fans hate him? George best our greatest ever player was a little more than flawed,did the utd fans hate him?
As for marlon king and diouff,well I would like to think that if any player at utd acted like those two,they would be sacked on the spot.
You sound like one of those glory hunting johnny come latelys that utd get slated for,booing the team if were not 6 up by half time,booing players when they make a bad pass,and only supporting players who you think arnt arseholes…..not me….if the play for utd,they get my support.
What was your name when berbatov wasnt doing so well,Berbatov is a skoda?
100% with scott.
Fans angry with him for his tantrums – Valid
Fans feel indifferent for him – Valid
Rooney commits he made a mistake – Valid
Rooney gets angry for questioning weather he will leave – Big fucking NOT valid. Dont get angry, suck on for your mistake. You invited for this. Keep playing hard on pitch n fans will stop if they want to, its not in your hand anymore.
After That Goal Against City™ Rooney can say what he likes to who he likes and I don’t give a fuck. His character is beyond question for me now, simply because I don’t care. He’s never going to be off my cool list ever again.
He has scored arguably the best goal in the history of this football club. Anything he does off the pitch is a footnote.
Doghouse – Are you being serious? Because he scored a goal you think anything he does off the pitch is irrelavent? That is fucking sad.
rooneyisclass – Can you name another player who lied to us like Rooney did? Someone who said he wanted to stay forever and that he loved United, only to try and leave the club? Talk about Best and Tommy Doc as much as you like, the fact is Rooney made us look stupid. And people like you continue to make us look stupid by accepting his behaviour. Like a desperate City fan.
Yeah if I were to cheat on my gf and she decided to forgive. For a while, I’ll tolerate or expect even the shits (from her friends, families etc) that will come my way. How long ?
Time will decide that.
And I hope I put the analogy understandable enough.
We have every right to think he is a cock for getting angry. I dont give a fuck what anyone says he made us look a laughing stock, he bent us over and fucked us for his wages. Im sure if you were to watch that press conference with fergie and see how he was up against the ropes because of rooney you would all remember what he did to us. He should shut the fuck up and play out skin off for the duration of his contract and then he will earn some of that trust and respect back. I am not gonna listen to a word that comes out of his mouth, I’ll support him on the pitch but I dont like and I especially dont love him any more. He is a brilliant player but he is also not bigger than the club and Im not sure I and many others can ever forgive him. He hasnt even been playing that well before the last two games. Hope he keeps his recent form up but equally hope he keeps his fucking trap closed to save him getting into any more trouble
Pom
If there was a ‘like’ button to ur comment. I would have been unable to resist pressing it.
@Scott the Red
He’s a scouse boy STR limited vocabulary in play here . Honestly i’m not joking the boy doesn’t know how to get shit across. KingEric posted something about the income tax- i think it is,to come into effect in a few months and he could potentially be ecieving 50k a week.
For me, 50k is mind blowing and if you want to keep your top talent,you know you’ve got to shell out the dough Most footballers would have taken some action, but the manner he to his was dogs bollocks.
The boy can be a a brick head sometimes; like moose in Archie and the gang, But he’s our moose
@ james
please mate fuck it up with ‘first’
@Scott The Red
He didn’t score ‘a goal’. He scored That Goal. It was no ordinary goal. We may not see it’s like again.
Is it sad to cut him a lot of slack after that? Maybe. But I forgave Cantona for kicking the hooligan even though it probably cost us the title. I forgave Keano for sticking it to Haaland (and yes, I know he didn’t end his career as the Bitters claim, but that wasn’t for lack of trying) even though normally I hate that kind of thing. I forgave Forlan for not being able to hit the broadside of a bus for ages. I forgave Beckham for just generally being a cock at times. I forgave Best for wasting his talent. I forgave Ronaldo for cheating, because let’s face it, he did dive at times.
Bottom line for me is that if a man wears our shirt and does it justice on the pitch then that is pretty much all that matters. It’s all I ask for from footballers. I don’t ask them to be saints. I don’t ask them to be loyal. I don’t ask them to be cheap. All those are a plus, obviously, but if they do the business on the pitch for us then I’m satisfied.
@roney is class
you just critisise berba and you claim to be behind our players. Look at the reasoning behind what scott said where no players can be angry on any united fans when questioning his loyalty to the club. He himself has show us what he is capable of as far as money is concerned. If he did negotiate his pay like a gentleman, our perception of him would be different.
FULLARD, hope you are well. Thanks for the many positive comments you make. I am always happy to consider your views, and you have shown yourself to be a United fan through and through.
With regard to your comment at 14:45 about my “shear non-negotiable commitments to STR’s views” I find it strange that you would think that, when my comment shows that I don’t have the same attitude as Scott.
Both Scott and I are angry with Rooney, for Wayne being angry at the questioning of his commitment to United. However, I clearly expressed that I am prefer him to be angry, whereas Scott doesn’t.
Furthermore, the crux of my post is that ‘fans’ stand up proudly and angrily, chastising and attacking our players and fans, and Scott., for minor issues, YET they ignore other far worse slanderous attacks on Sir Alex.
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@ anyone that reacts to trivial crap but doesn’t react to serious attacks on United:
I say, if you don’t stand up for an absent Sir Alex when he is being viciously slandered, then don’t complain about any other comment or issue. If you don’t defend him, your attack on any other issue is not in the interest of United, but done to suit your own agenda.
People who repetitively attack anyone who says ‘First’ but ignore SIr Alex being slandered are selfish cunts who do not support or love United. They are in it for themselves. Selfish.
Complain about issues if you wish. If you only complain about trivial irrelevance that affects you personally, but keep mum on serious issues such as the slander of Sir Alex, you are selfish, and do not love United.
I don’t trust the lad… after all the fuss that he created back in Oct over wages & talking to other clubs…. FFS…. city of all clubs? we have to ask whether we can trust him? if he get angry so what…. he caused the problem, that why we are asking.
Scott, i’m glad you posted this article.. it really demonstrates that there is still a lot of ill feeling about the debacle. It’s good to see the difference of opinion across the spectrum.
These conversations go on in the contract renewal process. The deficit is, this particular one got leaked. They’re always usually managed well in-house.
Bearing in mind, the Glazers forced a change in the contract renewal policy just before this all kicked off, and i quote:
“Manchester United are set to alter their policy of offering established players new contracts.
Rather than offering players new deals when they enter the final two years of their current contract, the United hierarchy plan to wait until the last year of a player’s deal.
The move is designed to save the club wages, and marks a change of policy from when the club was a Plc.
Then, United were keen to be seen as protecting their assets by keeping players in place, but now the Glazer family are in control of the club aims have changed.” (22nd Sept 2010)
Then in the same month, following the above revelation.. “it is Manchester United who have failed to move ahead with a deal for the hitman [Rooney], despite Ferguson’s preference to tie down the club’s stars who have less than 24 months left on their contracts.”
(It was the owners that sought to hold off negotiations whilst the media spotlight was on Rooney given his misdemeanours – something about an old lady…)
If you were Rooney at this point, wouldn’t you be frustrated?
You have to keep it in perspective! There is a lot that we don’t know. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it’s good hearing about people’s take on it. But criticising fellow visitors/supporters on a blog site – i.e. it’s visitors (for having an opinion) is not the way to go about it. We must accept we’ll never really know what went on and what was said.
There are three key entities which sought to exasperate this problem in my book: The media, Stretford and the Glazers. I hate them almost equally. Actually, there’s no ‘almost’ about it…
My love of the man is neither here nor there, but my appreciation of him and his spirit remains the same. Particularly, given his recent performances. Time to swallow that almighty chill pill.
March on Reds, 19th please!
Have you ever done something stupid Scott ? Ok I thought so. Let’s get over it and get behind the guy
willie – Thats exactly what I meant pal. Its the paper hes angry at not the fans. Who gives a fuck really? He is wearing our shirt so I will support him. Not chant Rooney all the time but I wqill be behind him.
slim – Yeah mate I heard it was April when the tax bracket comes in hence all these “improved” contracts. If he was on 90k a week he would be earning £45,000. In this day and age of superstar footballers thats a pittance mate.
Scott,you`re making yourself look stupid,aswell as childish and pathetic with all this anti rooney stuff,yes he said he wanted to leave boo hoo,stop crying and get behind him,he`s the one who will most likely fire us to number 19…and I for one will be cheering him on…..any utd fan thats not 100% behind all our players is no a true fan in my eyes….and for you to continue this vendetta against rooney shows how small minded you are……dont forget he`s not like us,he wasnt brought up loving this club,but you can tell while he`s at utd he`ll put his all in for the cause…that`ll do for me.
@ Rooneyisclass
Johnny come lately?! Hardly mate, 28 years a red pal (although I don’t feel I need to justify myself to the mindless masses such as yourself)…….and my name before Berba came good? Berbatov has always been good for United, so that’s really a childish non question. Flaws I can handle, Jesus my idol is King Eric ffs, and they don’t come much more flawed than him……but I can’t remember a player who shit on the club, the fans, his teammates and his manager from such a great height, maybe Heinze or Tevez in recent memory, and look at the treatment they get. The only difference is we kept Rooney and binned the other two. And how dare you mention Best alongside Rooney……flawed yes, troubled yes, but he always loved the club and Sir Matt….even to the extent of signing for a lower league club so he wouldn’t ever have to play against United……I wouldn’t ever envisage Rooney doing the same…..in fact he seemed to have no troubles flirting with our city rivals. This is MY team, not Rooneys, I still want him to do well as thus benefits the team……but will I follow him blindly or defend him because the colour of his shirt, no mate, he deserves all the anger and questions thrown at him by suspicious fans he has already lied to, over and over again. And do you know what? He has no right to be angry when questioned by fans, he lost that right when he tried to join City.
Scott, time to let it go. How old are you? Never done anything wrong? Rooney has looked great over the past few games. Lets concentrate on supporting our players and getting through the next few weeks!
I don’t necessarily think that every Manchester United fan is going to have gotten over the incident — and nor should they. He played with trust and it’s a very hard thing to win back. But the first steps towards regaining that trust are apologizing (check), admitting you were wrong (check), promising to win over your doubters (check), signing a formal contract tying you to your club for years to come with the intention of honoring it (check), and following through with your performances on the field (check).
Honestly, what else could Wayne Rooney do to try and earn our trust back? Get an MUFC tattoo on his forehead? Imagine this kid’s life — he’d been blasted about in the papers for months and his prostitution scandal was in every corner of the world. He’d seen his national team fall out of the world cup in very disappointing fashion. Imagine what it feels like when you have that much pressure on you and the English media are hounding you down. Imagine when you see campaigns like the G&G doing everything in their power to insist the current owners of the club have no money and are spiraling out of control. Imagine that you are just becoming a man on this world and you’re asked to put the world’s greatest club on your back and carry it into the next generation. You’re telling each one of you would take all that in stride? You’re telling me that you could handle the media spotlight in England with your newborn child sitting on your lap?
There was a whole lot more going on than playing for Manchester United or not. He never came public and expressed his comments or his desire to leave. SAF says Rooney was, furthermore, receiving bad advice from his agent — whom you are supposed to trust with your life! And at the end of it all, SAF decided to keep him! Just let it go! I can see that some of you are angry but how is you getting angry about Rooney getting angry going to do any good at all? Are you showing him what being a true supporter is about?! I just don’t get it. I really and truly don’t. It feels like people were insulted (and perhaps rightly so) and are just not man enough to shake hands and move forward.
Wayne Rooney is a Manchester United player — has been for years, will be for years to come. Get behind him and support the team. Bury your personal feelings. We still have the treble to play for — let this go!
rooneyisclass – I have a bit of self-respect, that’s not childish or pathetic. You seem to believe Manchester United players can do whatever they want. It doesn’t matter whether they’re loyal or not. It doesn’t matter whether they wanted to join City or not. As long as they’re scoring overhead kicks we should support them no matter what.
It’s not like I’m in the ground booing him. None of our players should be exempt from criticism… particularly not the ones that were desperately trying to leave the club a few months ago. For him to say it makes him angry that people would now question his commitment to the club is laughable. He’s lied to us before, why on earth should we trust him now?
Don/Spooky – Course I’ve made a mistake. But I can’t recall a time when I’ve really fucked up then got angry with the people who I fucked over. Like cheating on your bird then you saying to her she makes you angry because she asks if you’ll ever do it again.
@FULLARD
Non-negotionable? Absolutely not mate. And that is not negotionable.
Look, I am one of those that never said one insult about Rooney during this whole charade. Really. I just don’t trust footballers nowdays. And it’s not because of him. This has been my stance for years. I will support him as long as he wears the shirt, even though I wasn’t happy at all by last October’s antics. As for Scott, I think his complaint is legit here. It doesn’t look like Wayne is talking just about the media. And what I was wondering, is why he is confronted about it like this, when we (sadly) see worse abuse directed towards our players on a daily basis at this blog.
But despite that, I do respect every opinion that’s well based and respectful. Your included. But it’s not the easiest topic on which one can change his mind, would you agree?
Scott,so are you saying Fergie has no self respect for forgiving rooney? or for being 100% behind him? You`re just acting loke a baby because someone had the audacity to say he wanted to leave utd….the lad admits he was wrong ffs…what do want him to do…beg???
This is a cracking blog most of the time….but all this anti rooney shite is ruining it.
Scott the Red, don’t “give him a rest” mate this is balanced Journalism. He has consequences to face for his actions and there is no escaping that. Full Stop. Football may have changed but United hasn’t. I’ve never seen a player bring our Club into disrepute to the extent Rooney has. Never.
Yes, he played excellent Tuesday night, even the media (bang on time for the Euro qualifiers) gave him rave reviews, and he deserved the plaudits. because he played like the Rooney of old. The only problem is he’s not the same player, not to many of us. Of course he wouldn’t be easy player to replace, but we’ve replaced better players in this Clubs history, and if he did leave for CITY then Hernandez would’ve been a great replacement.
Some people forget that Rooney is insignificant in comparison to the Club. YES he’s an outstanding player, YES I’ll support him while he’s here, YES I’ll cheer when he scores and enjoy his contribution, but nothing changes the fact he crossed a line there is no coming back from, at least for me there isn’t anyway. If we did sell him, we’d get a fair price, and we’d rebuild again. Many players over the years have been thrown out by Alec for LESS, thats why I can’t see him staying. Maybe not this season, or even next, but Rooney isn’t in United long term plans anymore. I’d be shocked if he was.
rooneyisclass – What are you basing Fergie forgiving Rooney on? You had a chat with him have you?
This blog is about him saying he is angry that fans still ask him whether he’s staying. I think that is a disgraceful thing for him to say after what he did. But this is not about him being desperate to leave the club because Manchester United didn’t match his ambitions.
When in doubt, Paul, trust SAF. He’s the man steering this ship. He’s the man making the plans. He’s a man of integrity. He got Rooney to sign a new deal. He expressed his desire to see him stay. FULL STOP.
scott,if its ok for you to say rooney wanted to go to city based on hearsay,then its ok for me to fergie has forgiven him…..oh,and by the way show me where it says he is angry with the fans for asking him whether he is staying,you interpret it that way because you want to carry on nailing him…Me,I reckon he`s talking about the media.
The guy that get United this particular chant – “Your shit and Rooney said you are”
Now that of course deserves us ‘getting behind him’ for every shit that he spew. Even ones which he brought upon himself or should have expected when acting like that.
rooneyisclass – Where does he even mention the media? Was it journos who came up to him in the petrol station and asked him was he leaving? Get a grip. Alternatively, get your Wayne Rooney poster out and get busy… I’m sure you’d far rather that than having to hear me saying mean (true) things about your fancy man.
@Rooneyisclass
“oh,and by the way show me where it says he is angry with the fans for asking him whether he is staying”………okey dokey, see his quote from the above article…..
“You get angry when people question you. On Sunday I was on the way home from training. I stopped off at the garage to get petrol and a few people asked me if I was leaving in the summer.”
Now correct me if I’m wrong, most self respecting journos don’t hang around petrol stations hoping for a random footballer to turn up…….so Rooney is obviously talking about fans. End of.
A dry sense of humour is much preferred to a soggy poster.
He`s talking to fans who are firing bullets loaded by the media…..he`s obviously taliking about the media.End of.
Is he trustworthy ? Great footballer when fit and focused,Proven Liar,do you Trust him
I trust myself.
Actually, Berba — the Man Utd official website quotes it differently. Do not be puppets of the English media. From their angle, it looks like he was indeed speaking more towards the media angle.
Show me someone who doesn’t lie, and I’ll show you a sucker.
Rooney pledges allegiance to United
Wayne Rooney has claimed he will still be a Manchester United player when he reaches his thirties after admitting to being angered by speculation that he will leave Old Trafford this summer. Rumours over Rooney’s long-term future have been rife in Manchester since his acrimonious contract stand-off with the club last October, which ultimately led to the 25 year-old committing himself to a new £160,000-a-week five-year contract. Suggestions that Rooney’s decision to publicly question United’s ambition led to a cooling of relations inside the dressing room have lingered, while many supporters believe that his new contract merely delayed an inevitable departure and will enable the club to secure a higher fee if, or when, he is transferred. Despite the speculation, Rooney has shown signs of a return to the form that made him such a key figure for United last season. Rooney insists that he is now determined to silence the whispers once and for all. “My relationship with Sir Alex [Ferguson] has no problems whatsoever,” Rooney said. Rooney admits he has become increasingly irritated by those questioning his commitment. “Yes, you get angry,” he said. “On Sunday I didn’t even know it was in a newspaper until I was on the way home from training. I stopped off at the garage to get petrol and a few people asked me if I was leaving in the summer. I’ll be here until I’m in my thirties though, that’s for sure.”
Clearly amied at the media
Wow, comprehension and understanding seems to be a lot of people’s problem here. Scott isn’t angry anymore about the whole Rooney saga, but he’s obviously pissed about Rooney thinking he has the right to be angry when fans doubt him. What the heck is wrong with that? It’s a valid point that imo not only applies to Rooney but almost every other footballer today when it comes to wanting to stay at a club forever. Afterall how many months was the Bayern Munich match when Rooney was at the biggest club and wanted to stay forever to the time when he questioned the clubs ability to attract stars?
There’s no recourse for trust.
100% agree with Scott. Can’t believe that cunt Rooney even says this shit. He is money grabbing whore, make no mistake about it. He betrayed us and just because he says he is sorry doesn’t change that fact. Also where are all this myths about his agent, coming from. Isn’t it convenient to blame someone who is an easy target. His agent might have negotiated contract, but the decision was Rooney’s. May be it was stupid decision, but that just shows his intellect, nothing more. After “making the mistake” he needs to take responsibility. Also anyone who believes anything that this cunt says is an idiot. This guy doesn’t give a shit about his own pregnant wife, so why would he care about what strangers feel. Anyone who chants his name is a tool and these fans are the reason that cunts like Rooney can get away with whatever they want. These fans are just like Chelskie fans who came with “Terry legend” slogans after the Terry/Bridge fiasco.
@Rooneyisclass
Get a grip man, he’s talking about fans….even if they are asking questions about stuff seen in the papers, it is still fans he is talking too, and therefore he is basically saying, ‘no one has the right to question me, I am above reproach’………sadly not Wayne, you are public property for united fans and therefore you should have the good grace to understand where these questions come from ie the fact you handed in a transfer request and aired your dirty laundry in public. I’m always deeply suspicious of people who shout their loyalty from the rooftops……I would much prefer my footballers to keep their gobs shut and do it on the pitch a la Giggs/Scholes etc.
But OTRed, what is to be gained by this anger caused by anger? More anger? Certainly not a treble.
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@MANsuyUNITED
And don’t be a puppet of the Official Mancester United Propagnda machine. You know, the one that says the debt is manageable and that Fergie has millions available to him………..
Scott? I’ll be Robin Williams. You’re Matt Damon. It’s not your fault mate.
Bollocks I wrote a long post and I’ve lost it. Fuck if im writing that again Lol.
Long and short of it is this has nothing to do with trusting Alec on the Rooney issue. Alec is a ruthless cunning Machiavellian devil and long may that continue. He would say anything for the Club, and he would also kick a boot in the face of any player if doing so was for the betterment of the Club. IMO the only reason Rooneys still here is because he’d have gone for cheap when he demanded his move. Thats why IMO the first thing United did was slap a huge fee on him. Its got fuck all to do with trusting what Alec says to the ABU media, more than anything I trust that Alec is no mug and doesn’t take kindly to subordination. If Rooney leaves now he can chase ambition till his hearts content and we’ll get the value we deserve. I don’t think Rooney will still be at the Club in his 30′s. It would be nice if he was, but im not that much of a romantic/optimist.
Great player, but what a little so and so.
Scott the Red, thanks for all your writings on the Great Man Utd.
The Rooney subject is so touchie, the right to be mad at fans no.
What would he have resigned for with no drama a lot less. Big business football is so diferent then it used to be? Back to work will read later tonight.
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he’s pissed.
With you Scott keep up the good work – However got to go as there’s far too many bullshit comments on here that have totally wound me up!
@ Berba
Fair enough, we differ in opinion. I choose to continue believing in the club first and foremost. Until we stop competing at the top level I will not condemn anyone. I don’t like what’s happened either but I personally feel that only trust and belief in our great club will lead us out of this mess.
I wish upon you feelings of hope through trust that I harbor so strongly for this club. Not just hope, hope through trust.
United>Rooney
it is irony loads bitching and saying rooney bent the club backwards, when our own fans have lambastard the club for the hike of ticket prices. To be honnest this has become boring, going over the same BS that fans keep going on about after games on how crap rooney is.
Rooney > RoM
Give the guy a break. He’s been back in form and doing really fine. He’s showing that he cares about the club by being angry about the rumours, so it’s not necessarily a bad thing. And you gotta admit we do need him if we’re going to win some trophies this year.
RoM > Dela
RoM ≥ Scott the Red
Scott It’s a fair point you have made, and I agree with you 100% on this.
It’s not the mistake, but his attitude towards some of the fall-out from ‘his’ mistake.
What’s wrong with a little humility?
What’s so hard to understand that some fans might still not be convinced that he will stay longer then the year?
What’s so wrong in asking him that question? If there is no truth to it Rooney shouldn’t have a problem answering it.
Would it really be so hard for Rooney to understand that it’s only been a couple of months and for some it still lingers painfully.
I’m really glad that Rooney is playing good for the team, and I will always support him as a United player, but at times his attitude is cringe-worthy.
And some of the insults towards Scott aren’t necessary. If you don’t agree with him fine, but we all support the same club, attacking each other isn’t the answer.
But attacking our own player is?
When you have wronged your people, it is unwise to speak of your anger.
RoM != United
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Pass it on!!!
UNITED FOR EVER!!
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“And some of the insults towards Scott aren’t necessary. If you don’t agree with him fine, but we all support the same club, attacking each other isn’t the answer.”
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What about the consistent / persistent / prolonged attack on one of our players from RoM? Rooney has been plastered on back pages again with yet another claim that he is going to be sold only months after signing a 5 year deal. He is starting to get back on form (for which his praise is about 10 percent of what Berbatov would have gotten for HALF of it on RoM) and fans are warming to him, so to have that on the back pages yet again causing more discontent and distrust is something he’s more than entitled to get angry about. He mentioned that there was nothing wrong with his relationship with Fergie, that he signed a new deal and wouldn’t have done so if he was going to be leaving at the end of the season, and then said it gets you angry when people question you. So what? He signed a new deal, he is coming out of a slump and has scored important goals this side of Xmas, (Villa, City, Arsenal etc.) and is doing what he is being paid to do. What else do you want from him?
I personally see a lot of positivity in Rooney’s recent remarks. Whether he stays with United is up to two people… Fergie and himself. If he decided to leave, then fine, go, I won’t beg for him to stay. And if Fergie calls a halt on his United career, then I’ll accept that too like I did with Ruud and Becks.
I don’t see why his comments here spur immediate negativity from RoM. I just don’t understand it.
Dela
Many people felt entitled to be angry with Rooney. They don’t want to hear about his anger.
Especially as his suffering is minimal, self inflicted, and zip compared to the pain he caused.
Fuckin hell smartalex youd think he was a serial killer…..”The pain he caused” pmsl
WOW. some of you are very very unforgiving. Give this guy a break. He is playing well for the club. That’s all that matters.
Answer me this rooneyisclass, did Rooney cause pain?
@MANsuyUNITED
thanks for that mate……………….i don’t want to have beef with any red, and i do believe in the club, fuck me, I’ve believed in them ever since I fell in love with them when I watched Bryan Robson rampaging across the pitch v’s Barcelona at OT (we won 3-0, robbo scored twice)………..and that’s why it hurts so much when players betray the club. And I know 99% of players are dicks, and players like our lot, Giggs, Scholes, O’Shea, Neville, Brown etc are not the norm and we have been lucky to have them, but with Rooney we all thought it was different. Even though he was a scouser we took him as one of our own from the start and he repayed us by being brilliant, aggressive, blunt yet graceful…….like a ballet dancing bull lol. And then this whole saga kicked off and it was horrible…………it hurt so fucking much because we ALL thought he was one of us…..it was like your best mate sleeping with your wife (i’m a divorcee so I DO know how that feels). So yeah, I do trust the club, I do trust SAF, and I do trust the fans…………..and whilst I can’t ever forgive my best mate, I can’t actually hate the lad i grew up with either, and thats exactly how it is with Rooney for me…………..he fucked my club (whether under Stretfords guidance or not- at 25, he’s an adult) and whilst I can’t hate him and will never boo him, I will never cheer his name and will never forgive him. Ever.
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“Many people felt entitled to be angry with Rooney. They don’t want to hear about his anger.
Especially as his suffering is minimal, self inflicted, and zip compared to the pain he caused.”
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I was angry at the time. I even made some posts here about what I thought he was trying to do (I had convinced myself that he was going to try avoid transfer so he could leave and negotiate signing to a new club by himself… worth a lot of money to him…). I was shocked when he actually signed a new deal. Then after I had calmed down and re-claimed by rationality I realized there’s only a handful of people who know the full details and the rest of us (i.e. Media, RoM) can only speculate.
I think it was unlikely to be totally about money because if it was completely about money he’d have gone to City, which would have entitled him to cut of the transfer fee, and he could also negotiate his own signing on fee AND he would be paid more by City than he is at United now and there’s nobody who can doubt that. Of course, he did get a substantial wage increase, but compared to the revenue his name alone generates from sales of merchandise etc. and his class as a player, he’s entitled to demand his share from the Glazers too.
Secondly, it occurred to me that his comments about United’s ambition (which have been used to mean whatever his opponents want it to mean) are not much different _at all_ to the green and gold protests. The fans question the ambitions of the owners of the club every time they take part in it and yet they don’t seem to think its _strange_ that Rooney was convinced to stay at United _after_ he got a sit down with the Glazers and they assured him of their commitment to keeping United successful. To me, Wayne didn’t want to be the next Steven Gerrard, stuck at a club that can’t win the Premier League when other clubs would pay fortunes to get him away from there.
The main difference between my thinking and a lot of people who are still hammering on about what happened… I don’t NEED him to be _in love_ with Manchester United. I only need him to do his job. I don’t think, and never thought, that he was a top guy. He’s done a lot to show that he is not. And that’s fine by me as long as he keeps scoring goals and brings that edge to United. If you ask me, he has looked much better now after looking impotent for months after signing his new deal. I want him to be angry and full of attitude, hot headed and aggressive, that’s who Rooney is. Not some little puppy who will stick his tail between his legs and whine for days because he got a newspaper to the nose for pissing on the carpet…
Berba…..I think your confusing your issues with rooney and your wife leaving you….talk to someone.
Dela
Please re-read my earlier post at 13:42, and react, thanks.
I want him to be angry , with himself, when his loyalty is questioned. I want him to be angry, but I don’t want to hear about it. If he wants to talk about anger, we should start with any anger that he caused, because that’s the reason that there is anger.
hasn’t this been done to DEATH!!!!
There’s a big zombie elephant in the room, mattbw7.
“SAME OLD ARGUMENT, ALWAYS BORING!”
@rooneyisclass
haha mate, thats why i come on this site and talk to you lot mate……………but seriously, i just don’t like liars or dishonest/disingenuous people and I class Rooney as on of these……………………cheers for the debate mate, i’m off to enjoy the dippers being hoisted out of europe……………to add to the useless blue cunts.
@smartalex,
Ye you are saying a lot of the same things I am. I was just posting in my last post about how I see it now. I wasn’t actually replying to you, just took the comment you made about Rooney’s anger and took it from there. So don’t think I was referring to you specifically mate.
I knew that Dela, it was my way of showing you where we agree! All good mate!
Berba….no probs
rooneyisclass?
It would be interesting to see the age of those who blindly are back to praising Wazzas every time he breathes. Well, maybe not that interesting, as its pretty much given. Many of seem to have misunderstood the article, as it “attacks” Rooneys extremely naive approach to us fans, notting more.
Of course there comes a time when we “should let this go”, but for me that time is not yet. He was in the making of becoming one of our true greats (not starting a ranking here), but Rooney has made it impossible for him to ever be a legend for us, well some of us at least. At this club, Manchester United, passion and skills is simply not enough, it takes much much more. But hey, for a scouse and all he really had the odds against him to start with!
Scott, I totally agree with you. Rooney should go to Canossa, not being angry with fans
@ Berbs
A pleasure to debate the ins and outs of our great club with you! Takes a lot to share your deepest feelings and personal pains and how they relate to Manchester United. That’s what this blog is all about — it gives us a forum to show how the Reds make us feel.
Personally, I only try and contribute when I can share how United has inspired me and give some arguments that weigh in favor of giving that inspiration back to the club. It hurts a whole lot to feel betrayed by someone you love, just as it hurts to feel betrayed by your club.
Going back to the G&G debate I first chimed in on, I realize that I can’t understand how much hurt a lot of Mancs are feeling. I am relatively new to this great club and haven’t had my heart broken quite so many times by it or it’s competitors. But I think it’s good for the club (if I may be so arrogant) to have young, idealistic, even naive, supporters come into the fray. It may help remind some of the old timers why they fell in love to begin with.
Refocusing on some of my earlier intent, I think this is a cracking blog and does a whole hell of a lot for Manchester United supporters. It probably is a better resource for those of us around the world who can’t ask a Manc mate what’s been going on in the club and how they feel about it. I love this site almost as much as I love United
I just think that posts like this one can do more harm then good. It’s not the essence of the post, it’s the shockwaves it send through the supporters; it’s the debates about Rooney being a piece of shit that begin because of this thread being posted. Scott is a brilliant and wonderful ambassador for the club — and by choice mind you! That requires love, skill and dedication. I just wanted to remind him and others that directing more anger at Rooney at this stage might not help the club.
Anyone catch SAF’s press conference? He looks battle-worn and ragged. It’s now he and the club need us most. My message is simple: Rally behind the lads and give it everything you’ve got! With our support and a little luck, I believe the old coot could pull another rabbit out of the hat and gift us a treble! If not, we’ll go fighting to the end!
LU.
Oh, and I had meant to say: Great posts Dela!
I think I’ve said enough now, haha…
Hmmm….. has anyone listened to a Rooney interview??? These words are not his!!! Love United
Just to remind some, Rooney has played well in probably about 20% of the games he has played in. Which is what, 6 games out of 30, and still we see balls bouncing off his shins. If it was Berbatov a year, he should be sold. If it was Nani a year ago, he should be sold. If it was Fletcher, he should be sold. If it was O’Shea, he should be sold. If it was Evans, he should be sold. If it was Carrick, he should be released if can’t be sold.
I think all those who haven’t decided to sway the other way just because the wind has changed, may eventually do so when he’s still here in 2013/2014. But just because you are willing to forgive, forget and look the other way after just 6 months, doesn’t mean others have to. Call us petty, call us childish, call us immature, but the weightage of every happening has a different impact on everyone.
Some of you call the Glazers into question when they raise ticket prices and imposed the compulsory cup scheme, but conveniently fail to link it to the fact that all footballers are looking for a wage rise. Being confident in the club’s commercial dealings is good, but that’s not the only thing we can depend on. Some others understand what it’s all about, especially with the bumper packages the players are asking for now that the 50% tax rule is coming into play. Whichever way it is, the fans will have to pay, whether it is by expensive TV deals or products from the sponsors/advertisers.
If you can take a pound of flesh being cut off, while another faints at the sight of blood, doesn’t make either of you any more or less of a United supporter.
Ah … this is a proper forum now! Makes a change from usual nonsense lurking at the bottom of any post.
I think Scott is entirely entitled to his opinion. Just as we’ll never forgive Ferdinand for stalling on his new contract after 8 months out for a self inflicted doping ban … it’s going to take time with Rooney and it’ll probably never heal with some United fans.
Sure Rooney’s frustrated, getting asked the same questions all the time, who wouldn’t … but I think he just wants to put the matter behind him. The past 12 months have been a humbling experience for him … but it’s taken the squad to show him how stupid he was, as despite his poor form others have stepped up and kept us on track for the 3 main trophies we set out for at the beginning of the season.
For Rooney it’s probably too soon to be talking about the matter … but I was quite pleased to read his recent remarks, as everytime he’s forced to comment on these matters, it’s another time he has to acknowledge what a dick he was in the first place.
Love him or hate him, he’s in the team … we’ve got trophies to win, so let’s go to work and revisit this in May.
Costas
Totally agree mate. Peoples minds aren’t going to be changed easily anytime soon.
And nor should they.
I think a lot of people (myself included) initially thought STR was going over the top with his vendetta against Rooney, but now i see that really he’s doing his bit to make sure the fans don’t forget so easily.
I think its disgraceful how quickly and undeservedly his name was sung in the stretford end.
Even the other night when chicharito scored the first goal against marseille, rooneys name was sung instantly, as if he’d just scored.
I mean yeah it was a great bit of work for him to set up the goal but for us to be singing “rooney, rooney” while chicharito is celebrating HIS goal is ludicrous and says a lot about the single mindedness of some fans.
@Benni Robinson,that Balotelli link is fucking hilarious
@ Balaji
Heymate! haha i did take a long time o find that word that basically sums up my attitude towards him now!
No forgiveness for rooney…. he disrespected the club. Period.
Look guys I think we need too put this one away and lets see what happens, I have to agree with Scott. We have the greatest club with the greatest manager in the world, all look at us with green eyes and want what we have.
” Who hands in their notice before they’ve found a new job?”
I’ve done that twice.. both times I knew that I would be able to get a new job within days, and I’m pretty sure Rooney would have no problems finding new employers as well…
Great blog Scott. Really interesting response from our supporters. Personally I think Rooney is a bit out of order with the comments. We the fans have every right to question his loyalty after this whole fiasco.
Anyway It’s good to see Rooney finally finding some good form consistantly. We will need all the lads to be on top of their game if we are going to win THE TREBLE!!! UNITED!! UNITED!!
Rooneyisclass It seems to me that what STR is pointing out is that many fans find it hard to trust Rooney again. Have you ever heard the saying “Once bitten twice shy”? Ultimately that is STR’s point here. You surely have to agree that Rooney showed a serious lack of respect for the manager, the fans and his own team mates. Let us be honest most of us were appalled by Rooney’s behaviour and as he is well over the age of consent he can hardly hide behind his agent. Also clearly Rooney agreed with his agent or he would have dismissed him by now. Bearing this in mind Rooney is really not in any position to complain about his loyalty being questioned. As where was this loyalty when he stated just a few months ago his intention to leave? OK his performances have improved but that cannot take away what he said. For me the jury is still out on Rooney he still has a lot of making up to do.