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	<title>Comments on: Scandalous Rangers Ruin United&#8217;s Fun</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scandalous-rangers-ruin-uniteds-fun/#comment-5550</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that buses were already there waiting, in the event of a screen not working, suggests to me that Manchester Council was in fact very well prepared. 

So the screen didn't work. I think you're jumping to conclusions when saying that is due to last minute preparations. Other big screens were put up and working fine.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1048728_rangers_fans_get_big_screens_</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that buses were already there waiting, in the event of a screen not working, suggests to me that Manchester Council was in fact very well prepared. </p>
<p>So the screen didn&#8217;t work. I think you&#8217;re jumping to conclusions when saying that is due to last minute preparations. Other big screens were put up and working fine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1048728_rangers_fans_get_big_screens_" rel="nofollow">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1048728_rangers_fans_get_big_screens_</a></p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scandalous-rangers-ruin-uniteds-fun/#comment-5549</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I should add, it wasnt anywhere near 10,000 of the rangers "fans" who were rioting.  Lets not tar the true rangers fans with the brush of the idiotic hooligans who decided to be wankers.

JImmy Bob - it doesnt matter if rangers dont win the league this year.  Scotland gets two teams in the champs league (although i do wonder if that will be under review after the fans antics)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I should add, it wasnt anywhere near 10,000 of the rangers &#8220;fans&#8221; who were rioting.  Lets not tar the true rangers fans with the brush of the idiotic hooligans who decided to be wankers.</p>
<p>JImmy Bob - it doesnt matter if rangers dont win the league this year.  Scotland gets two teams in the champs league (although i do wonder if that will be under review after the fans antics)</p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scandalous-rangers-ruin-uniteds-fun/#comment-5548</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott

I want to clear one thing up straight away. I do not condone, nor have ever done, any sort of violence.  I'm not suggesting anything that the fans did that night was ok.  As a Scot, the rangers fans make me angry, particularly given that both celtic and aberdeen progessed in european competitions this year without any form of trouble.  So please dont think that i'm condoning, justifying, backing, or sensitive to, the violence that was perpetrated by the rangers fans last week.

Secondly, I completely agree with you about the final being held it old trafford.  It was a true spectacle.  So why, this time around, the lax attitude and frankly, stupidly late, plan-making?  Telling fans not to bother coming is a ridiculous thing to ask, and leaving it so late to organise fan areas and screens is unforgiveable.  Why the poor attitude from MCC this time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott</p>
<p>I want to clear one thing up straight away. I do not condone, nor have ever done, any sort of violence.  I&#8217;m not suggesting anything that the fans did that night was ok.  As a Scot, the rangers fans make me angry, particularly given that both celtic and aberdeen progessed in european competitions this year without any form of trouble.  So please dont think that i&#8217;m condoning, justifying, backing, or sensitive to, the violence that was perpetrated by the rangers fans last week.</p>
<p>Secondly, I completely agree with you about the final being held it old trafford.  It was a true spectacle.  So why, this time around, the lax attitude and frankly, stupidly late, plan-making?  Telling fans not to bother coming is a ridiculous thing to ask, and leaving it so late to organise fan areas and screens is unforgiveable.  Why the poor attitude from MCC this time?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NC - Manchester hosted the European Cup final in 2003, with it being held at Old Trafford. There was no trouble then.

Your argument is suggesting it's ok that Rangers fans went about kicking the shit out of police officers, each other, and destroying the City, just because a big screen didn't work. There were buses ready and waiting to take Rangers fans on to another big screen to watch the game. 10,000 got on the buses, 10,000 decided to stay put and go mental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NC - Manchester hosted the European Cup final in 2003, with it being held at Old Trafford. There was no trouble then.</p>
<p>Your argument is suggesting it&#8217;s ok that Rangers fans went about kicking the shit out of police officers, each other, and destroying the City, just because a big screen didn&#8217;t work. There were buses ready and waiting to take Rangers fans on to another big screen to watch the game. 10,000 got on the buses, 10,000 decided to stay put and go mental.</p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scandalous-rangers-ruin-uniteds-fun/#comment-5527</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 15:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the minority of rangers (not real fans) fans who rioted spoiled the evening and put a slur upon us scots, but lets not forget manchester city council's aggravation of the situation.

When glasgow held the uefa cup final last year areas of the city were divided off for espanyol and sevilla fans.  There were many designated "fan areas", plenty big screens, and the infrastructure was perfect.

This year, we have manchester city council telling rangers fans not to come to the city only 3 weeks before the final, then realising the stupidity of their actions and hastily trying to organise some big screens at the last minute.  Its no wonder that a screen failed and there was trouble.  When a city is given a major final all this sort of thing should be sorted out months in advance - screens, fan areas, policiing etc - not left until the last minute.  It seems that when manchester were given the final they just sat back and rested on their laurels.

I agree that its shocking, should utd win, they wont be allowed to parade their trophy but for me this speaks more to the incompetence and laziness of manchester city council.  Uefa, Fifa etc should think seriously hard about giving manchester a major final in the near future.  Hosting one doesnt just mean supplying the ground and police.  Its about integrating fans, hosting thousands of people, something which manchester city counciled struggled, and actually failed, to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the minority of rangers (not real fans) fans who rioted spoiled the evening and put a slur upon us scots, but lets not forget manchester city council&#8217;s aggravation of the situation.</p>
<p>When glasgow held the uefa cup final last year areas of the city were divided off for espanyol and sevilla fans.  There were many designated &#8220;fan areas&#8221;, plenty big screens, and the infrastructure was perfect.</p>
<p>This year, we have manchester city council telling rangers fans not to come to the city only 3 weeks before the final, then realising the stupidity of their actions and hastily trying to organise some big screens at the last minute.  Its no wonder that a screen failed and there was trouble.  When a city is given a major final all this sort of thing should be sorted out months in advance - screens, fan areas, policiing etc - not left until the last minute.  It seems that when manchester were given the final they just sat back and rested on their laurels.</p>
<p>I agree that its shocking, should utd win, they wont be allowed to parade their trophy but for me this speaks more to the incompetence and laziness of manchester city council.  Uefa, Fifa etc should think seriously hard about giving manchester a major final in the near future.  Hosting one doesnt just mean supplying the ground and police.  Its about integrating fans, hosting thousands of people, something which manchester city counciled struggled, and actually failed, to do.</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimmy Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets hope motherwell do us all a favour today so no rangers in the champions lge next year :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets hope motherwell do us all a favour today so no rangers in the champions lge next year <img src='http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: keith saunders</title>
		<link>http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scandalous-rangers-ruin-uniteds-fun/#comment-5451</link>
		<dc:creator>keith saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twice in major euro finals and both times their fans riot. In 1972 they fought drunken pitched battles with with Franco's paralimitary police FFS. They just cannot behave themselves. The cctv footage shows the rioting went on from just after kick off (when the screens failed) until the early hours of the morning. You tube footabge shows fiootage from all over the place. Seperate incidents involving many mobs.

As for the rangers supporters who claim we cannot organise a big event, we bent over backwards to make you feel welcome. The screen failure was due to Sod's law, not incompetence!

Most of your fans are an embarrasment, the rest are a disgrace. Thanks for spoiling a potentially great evening for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twice in major euro finals and both times their fans riot. In 1972 they fought drunken pitched battles with with Franco&#8217;s paralimitary police FFS. They just cannot behave themselves. The cctv footage shows the rioting went on from just after kick off (when the screens failed) until the early hours of the morning. You tube footabge shows fiootage from all over the place. Seperate incidents involving many mobs.</p>
<p>As for the rangers supporters who claim we cannot organise a big event, we bent over backwards to make you feel welcome. The screen failure was due to Sod&#8217;s law, not incompetence!</p>
<p>Most of your fans are an embarrasment, the rest are a disgrace. Thanks for spoiling a potentially great evening for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to spoil the pleasure of the Rangers haters out there but it's actually four European finals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to spoil the pleasure of the Rangers haters out there but it&#8217;s actually four European finals.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gets worse now manchester city council are postponing any team parade after the champions league final! A full article can be found on the BBC website</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets worse now manchester city council are postponing any team parade after the champions league final! A full article can be found on the BBC website</p>
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		<title>By: jsos</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>charlie - if you're gonna post, take responsibility for who you represent. and, as scott said, check your facts. confusing a whole country's supporters with those of one club? come on mate.

well now you can sink your 40,000,000 into bail money. well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charlie - if you&#8217;re gonna post, take responsibility for who you represent. and, as scott said, check your facts. confusing a whole country&#8217;s supporters with those of one club? come on mate.</p>
<p>well now you can sink your 40,000,000 into bail money. well done.</p>
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