Having come out of retirement half way through the season, Paul Scholes claims his decision to play on in 2012-2013 was entirely dependant on what Sir Alex Ferguson wanted.
“The manager didn’t have to twist my arm to play this season,” said Scholes. “He just said: ‘You’re going to play next year, aren’t you?’ I had no plans either way – whatever the manager wanted me to do that was going to happen.”
Scholes insists that the memory of City winning the league last season will help inspire United to perform at their best this season.
“It wasn’t good, was it?” he said. “It’s always a motivating force when you lose the league. It’s not nice to see another team celebrate winning the title on the last day of the season, and that picture stays with you. For most of the season we were in control, then it got to the Wigan game and we lost that. The Everton game as well was a big disappointment, from 4-2 up to draw 4-4. And obviously we went to City and lost – that was an even bigger disappointment. You always say the best team win the league, and City were the best team last year. I didn’t play at Wigan when we lost but that wasn’t down to me not playing, anything could have happened. But we failed at the end of last season. There is no question we should have won the league. To be fair to City, they closed it out. It didn’t matter who it was: to be in that position, eight points clear with six games to go, it’s not like us. It was a major disappointment to lose the league from there. But we have to look to next year, and if we’re in the same position we’ll have to make sure we finish the job.”
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Team player
The man
After Paul Scholes was cast, they broke the mould.
In the 1st training game this year, Paul and Kagawa look as if they were the older boys in the playground and all the younger guys swiping at air.
5 first posts in a row on 5 straight thread, a RoM record?
scholes my man.hope his legs don’t fail our lad
Brazil at the theater of dreams, Rafa showing the lads around town.
Rafas mom cooking for 50 some food from home.
Lucas dad hanging out with Rafa’s pops.
Lucas body language will speak volumes of his decision.
Today’s Olympic fussball schedule: http://i.imgur.com/96JPS.png
Zib, I hope Raf is giving Lukey boy and a few of the other Brazil stars a guided tour of OT – making them feel right at home if you catch my drift.
Thanks Fred
Is this the Rottweiler you mentioned?
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/906684-arsenal-and-manchester-united-rivals-for-victor-wanyama-transfer
I do, I do!!
Sky has the odds 13/8 for RVP both Manchester clubs now have the same odds.
Very well said by the master. The wigan game was the major reason we lost the league. We were shit that day. One of our worst performance and also one of the worst game that giggs has played.
Roll on 20
It wasn’t me who mentioned the rottweiler, don’t tar me with that brush!
Zibbie – “Never tell me the odds!” – Han Solo. His daughter is a damn fine goalkeeper.
My bad,
odd are for the loser!!
Solo, amazonian women yummy.
hi fellow reds
im from indonesia,there’s alot of media here write that Man Utd have signed rvp for 20m..any confirmation?
and please sombody can tell me what type of player is wanyama?
thanks very much,so sorry if my english is bad..
I wish PAUL SCHOLES was 23 again. I wudn‘t mind swapping ages wit him. He is just mind blowing. Nothing short of a role model on and off the pitch except for his tackling ability of course.
Tallest women I have ever dated, 6’2″ she played volleyball for Cal St, Santa Cruz.
1990 big hair was in, so add 5 inches of hair, 3 inches of heals we we went out she was like 6’8″ tall, she was so hot! On topic she had hair like Scholes.
How the fuck are you all doing you dip shitting beauties?
Yeah that Scholes fella ain’t half bad, good pass on him….
parijs van java
Hi, not heard anything from my side mate………Nothing confirmed as far as I know
java your post is fine.
Wanyama, he has a great name for songs, a big CDM his stock is rising. Not much else, I do not watch the SPL.
Zibbie, I don’t see us signing Robin Van Damme, and I’m usually right about these things. I don’t know about the Rottweiler but according to the Guardian Arsenal are trying to secure a loan deal for internet favourite Nuri Sahin.
Cedars top of the day mate!
Parijs – Wanyama plies his trade in the SPL, so I’m going to take a wild stab in the dark and say he’s probably fucking crap.
Nuri Sahin. has not jelled at Real. He and Kagawa killed in the German teams together. 2 years ago he had made the most chances in the BL. The loan thing is not SAF way.
RVP I say sign him let the guys fight out who plays and where.
thanks cedars.. still hope man utd do the
tour to Indonesia after the cancellation
four years ago..did wanyama play like
Cheikh Tiote? I really miss when roy keane still playing
On Scholes, I just love the look on his face when he smacks someone down……..’Sorry ref, it was an accident’ ha ha ha Frigging legend
Hi Zibbie
Zibbie – loans might not be Alex’s way but if Sahin rapes shit in the Premier League for a season and then Madrid sell him to the Gunners at a knock-down price, Alex will be kicking himself.
Afternoon Cunt flaps!
Just got back from a round of golf!! God I’m shit! The Ginger Ninja… All I can say is thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the enjoyment you have given me over the years! But for Captain Marvel you would be my all time favourite football player of all time. Cheers Scholesy!
thanks fred, pippo inzibbie pippo who was born off topic hehe..
greetings from Indonesia
Greetings to all Indonesian Reds!
Is this zibbie guy on drugs?…what kind of stuffs do you actually post on?!!!
Moscow
Zibbie is high on life pal! Post on whatever the fuck he wants to post on and long may it continue!
Mike
You are becoming a legend of sorts with them greetings pal………Could not agree more on Scholes mate, probably my third all time favourite behind Robbo and Ole
moscowJT
Wash your mouth and stick your tongue back in it before I chop it off……..That was uncalled for
off topic….having a kitkat
yes all you cunt nuts… the fat fuck is back on here for a while
moscow, just Caffeine and nicotine right now, waiting on some weed. Tall women in volleyball in the OLY made me think of Jan…
cedars ….Zibbz has been getting more and more spaced out …..think he has done too much weed
Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar!!!!
TB lack off is the trippy part.
Cedicus Marrioatimus
How ya doing pal? Yep, I think we’d struggle to find anyone that wouldn’t have him in their top 3!! A truly brilliant footballer and a top top bloke who NEVER forgot his roots! Just got back from my round of golf, gotta get showered then back to the clubhouse for the presentation and a fuck load of Ale!! Won’t be winning anything for the golf but hoping to nail Gold in a few drinking games!!
“On topic she had hair like Scholes” Hahaha! I missed that one!
Rvp to be announced by sir Alex press conference 1pm Monday having medical at Carrington today my brother works for security there
Cedicus Marrioatimus?? Ha ha ha Just pissed my self
Mike
Always knew you were shit at sports mate and for a PE teacher its quite staggering to be honest!….Yeah I cannot think of any modern supporter that would not have Scholes in their top three.
Mr Bee
How’s things you daft fuck?
You can see a we bit of cleavage of Haley today. She has her girls covered for the most part.
MG 19
He posts what he wants. oh he posts what he wants, Zibbie posts what he wants…….
Any one crossing him will feel my wrath and it ain’t pretty
am fine Cedars just chilling and winding up MrsBee about our anniversary (20th) on Tuesday…she keeps on dropping hints but i just keep changing the fucking subject….driving her potty ….
took her out to lunch earlier but no mention of Tues…..bet she thinks I forgot…errr ….again
got card and flowers organised for her though…..
Go ahead make shit out of Cedars , I will rape you, with a billy club. Hit you upside the head, with your but juices splatter all over the place!
Watson, congrats
got her going!?!
Derp
Im back. hurray come the cheers.
This Wanyama character. Is he any good? Hes in a crap league, now with only one team in it. Im always wary about the big buzz of signing players when NOBODY mentioned his name before the Daily Fail or Mirror. As far as I can see it, if no premier league club was thinking about him before he went to Celtic despite the huge network of Scouts teams like West ham, United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Wigan etc have to offer then hes just a player that looks good in a mickey mouse turnip league.
I will be hardly surprised if RVP comes and say I always wanted to stay at arsenal and signs a contract there. I sometimes feel Wenger knows RVP will stay there and is just fooling the media. At the end when RVP sign for arsenal wenger could just give his victory speech by saying arsenal are still a top club.
It could be all fixed. I still don’t believe Rvp will sign for us.
I’ve had a blast going through the archives, seams like Nialo was the first to post. fun stuff. I read all of Giles treads.
I think I was the 1st to call him Sir, not sure.
Gagging for midfield reinforcements
WTF was rafa looking at. Brazil down a goal
Nothing else to say about Darth scholes without looking a downright fag
Apologies in advance if anyone takes offense
Good afternoon dip shits
The great paul doing his tang
By far the best english soccer I’ve known
Go… United!!!
Ash
Theres alot of that and you have to wonder why the managers slate the press about making non stories and then they always come out saying we beat this club and that to sign X. I suppose on one hand you have the “if it doesnt need to be said dont say it” and the other hand its “got to keep the interest alive and the product fresh in the minds of the fans and new fans”.
Belarus 1 – Brazil 0
Raf let his man get inside of him and headed the ball into the net.
Scholes one of the best footballers ever,never got caught up in the greed,fame and money,just loves playing football and Utd i love this lad
Wayne, spot on, so hard not to believe hype. Stay balanced.
Think it’s highly unlikely 99.9% that this is a elabortate ploy to make Arse look good,RVP wants big money and the Arse won’t pay him think it’s that simple
Goat
I don’t think every manager will do that but wenger could do that. Deep inside he himself knows that arsenal are no longer the club they used to be. Wenger is hurt as he still cannot accept the fact that he is no longer winning the trophies. So he will take cheap shots at other top clubs. I feel sorry for wenger,
Scholes is my favourite all time player and to me he reminds me of a morphing of Bobby Charlton and Nobby Stiles all in one player, cant really ask for more can you?
Watching Olympics basketball, The US raping shit out of the French……….
Mr Bee
Congrats mate, a great land mark…….A big fat juicy kiss to Mrs Bee from me
Manchester united are seriously considering a move for ashley cole… Silly season but that would be a goodY!!!!
Ash
I too feel sorry for Wenger even though that may not be a popular sentiment here, who wants to be popular. Hes done masses for Arsenal under unbelievably difficult circumstances (new stadium) and now has a board room bickering and taking the piss. One oilgarc that is one of the richest men in the world prepared to open his mouth but put no money in.
If I was Wenger Id jump ship now. His general idea is right and not that far off Sir Alexs aproach but with youth you have to spend big on occasions to get the best possible tutorage to the youngsters you see as becoming stars in their own right.
911_DEVIL
No!!!!
SORRY FOR AW???????? FUCK HIM SIDEWAYS WITH A RUSTY HACK SAW!!!!!!!!!
Cedars there was only one dream team!
Goat …911 is a numpty that posts bollocks…. new on here and rather too keen ….fucking idiot keeps butting in
Zibbie
You guys rape shit at basketball mate, however you have fucked it up in the last few world cups!
GB GETS A SILVER MEDAL … FEMALE CYCLING
TonyBee
Im not going to resort to having a go at people and I welcome all even if their opinion differs from mine. Way too much elitism going on in here. 690 million United fans and only 6 or 7 voices who speak for us all.
We’re all numpties on here. nothing wrong with being keen and butting in is the new way of doing things.
Cedars there are kids out in the US that used to dribble balls with their hands, using there feet now! We have many Drogba types playing Strong Safety in football, and Addys in basketball. As the US does it thing, more blacks in the suburbs, more will play soccer. And our Mexican population is huge and growing, now most will play for Mexico, soon they will pick the US as their National side. Big things on the horizon for FOOTBALL here in the good old USA!!
Arsenal and man utd are set to battle it out for celtic left back victor wanyama.
Back to topic…
The great ginger says he’s very impressed with how good the new signings technical ability is
He’s a good lad.
He doesn’t speak much english yed, but I’m sure he will be very popular here
HHHAHHHAHHHAHHA
Hannibal Leckner is a nice guy just ask him.
Zibbie people have been saying big things on the horizon for football in the states since 1972 mate
Does anyone knows when will brazil football team play today.? Want to see the young brazilians play and ofcourse our rafael.
Wayne LOL, not me.
I trust my eyes, Dempsey , top PL striker.
Bradley at Roma, Holden a star on the rise even with his injury.
Not just keepers anymore.
ash now, 1-1 at half, no Lucas. Hulk, Pato and Neymar at forwards.
Zibbie,that’s the problem though mate just like Canada if the players any good fucks of to another country,can’t even watch the MLS it’s fucking shit.Really hard to become a world power without a quality domestic league
True Fred, MLS is growing still with a summer league, Getting soccer only stadiums, selling out at some. Baby steps.
Bloody hell, US vs France becoming embarrassing now …………..GET IN
911_DEVIL
Wanayama is a defensive midfielder mate but yeah your right that we are/were supposed to be after their LB too that Izaguirre. If you believe the press with all the players we want from Celtic then we would just about be good enough to win the SPL.
Scotland isnt the Scotland of old. The SPL is a waste of time for all concerned and resembles the Irish league. Unlike the days of McClair McAlister, Duncan Fergusson at a push, Jim Leighton (lol) where there were some players of note probably on a par with their premier league counter parts, those days are long gone.
Fuck me sideways, them Americans sure can play basketball……..Such a joy to the eye
Wanyama is a strong improving player. He has improved these past 2-3 years. He was in a Scandinevian(spellings) league and moved to Celtic. After a slow start at Celtic he became a mainstay in their team. He is confident with the ball,a good passer,calm,energetic and good ball control. May be the pace in our league is fast compared to SPL hence he may not be up to speed at the start but he is a humble guy. By the way am Kenyan,he is Kenyan so I have been keen on his work.
kk thanks, nice update.
Cedars when you see an NBA game live! Giant Humans doing ballet moves with power and strength!!
Labron 6’8″ 280 lbs.
Brazil, a flop and a goal…
Ash
Brazil is playing right now. They are up 2 – 1 over Belarus
I cannot believe that I am getting so pumped up over a basketball game for fucks sake…..But this US team are from another planet!
Mrs President is a hottie,
Some of those guys worth 100 mill and playing for a college coach, their country and having fun.
Oscar looks some player, shame the chavs got him, hopefully he fucks off to Spain soon. Can’t believe how some clubs get these guys easily- well relative to United anyway.
Ah well here’s hoping a deal is being thrashed out at OT as we speak for the Lucas fella.
Seen mostly YouTube as well but talent is there for all to see
Cedars what the hell is up,haven’t seen any nostalgic Robbo posts in a while and where the Fuck is King Eric, missed the boss on here for a while now. Wee Tom must be a handful these days
Slim reports say KE computer is down, he hates posting from his phone,
kk
I wiki’ed Wanayama and got him playing for Beerschot (remember kids dont mix your beer with Spirits) in Antwerp Belgium, not the greatest league by any stretch of the imagination, before heading off to Celtic. Still if your scouting skills have him as a future United man and he becomes a future United player dont forget to come on in here and rub my nose in it my friend.
Zibbie
I see.
Anyone who keeps in touch give him a shout out for me.
Reckon that computer gets fixed pretty sharpish once the season gets under way. I was sure he’d be on here after a couple of posts regarding us getting Andy the donkey Carroll.
Here comes lucas for brazil….
I have seen Thi-boxers kick trees to build up calcium deposits on their shins, um a new training method.
Lucas is on!!!!!!!!!!
MK12 does and many more, my guess KE will read your post.
Hello KE miss your youth break downs.
It makes me chuckle to imagine conversation between Fergie and Scholes, You’re going to play next year, aren’t you? haha, I feel heavy in my mind because we need younger version of Paul in the team to compete other but we only have unproven youngsters and old original version of Paul yet.
Just hope, no more season long injury in the new season.
Yang, Kagawa will run the center of the park for years to come. And TC23 as well, and Powell to learn from Scholes and Giggs’s feet of genius.
What an assist by neymar….
Jealous down
This neymar is a sensation
Neymar was simply outstanding in the match. Unbelievable talent for brazil, they just can’t live with his change of pace and skills. Man of the match.
Senegal will break Cunts leg!!!!!!!!!
I’m pretty sure that you being kenyan isn’t a valid enough reason to sign wayama. Why is this even discussed? FERGIE is not interested.
Oscar was pretty much impressive. Chelsea may have signed a good prospect. Lucas was good but not great. Lucas should not be worth more than oscar. 25 million will be ok
Sam, silly season, a link. Bored, confused.
This Lucas kid looks all right but 30 million is a tad too much. Neymar,on the other hand….
dela
jesus you got that opinion by 3 minutes of football. I never got the chance to put the TV on before Neymar back heeled it to Oscar. From what Ive seen and admittedly not very much he looks like the dogs bolox.
samuel
Being Kenyan isnt a valid enough reason to sign Wanyama,true, BUT he would have read domestic news papers or watchewd local news and possibly heard about this boy from an earlier point in time than we have. Lets give him that.
I have to disagree with you while I understand Neymar’s quality but from the game itself he looks so good because the defending was awful. Seriously awful.
Lucas for Old Trafford?Yeah right,Fairytales can come true it can happen for you,Erm doubt it.
Neymar…
Fergie sign him up! =p
EricCantonaToldMeToTweet
I never saw the game but I more than likely agree with you as I couldnt imagine the Belarussian olympic team being as good as the Belarussian international team which in itself is questionable at best. They dont have the depth that a huge footballing nation like Brazil has. I doubt there were many believing that Brazil wouldnt walk away with this game before kick off.
Brazil conceeded a goal however and 2 in the previous match, what is the issue there. Do these superstars not tackle back.?
goat
This was their second game, you know.
parryheid wet blanket at best, finds joy in fucking with others.
Lucas didn’t have too much time to settle in the game
looked rusty, maybe the pressure is tackling him out in some ways
There wasn’t enough time to asses his performance, 6mnts only and in that 6 managed to get the ball a handful of times in tight spaces…..
Neymar is such a great footballer
Oscar is a decent signing for chavs, was good aswell
Senegal score again…suarez being booed….good times
Fucking bam.
Fucking stupid BAM!
I haven’t seen enough of any of these lads to make any judgement,have to ask myself if Oscar is a starter and Rentboys paid 25mill,Moura isn’t a first team regular for this Brazil side why the hell are San Paulo asking so much.
If Utd have offered 27mill seems like a ton of money to me for a 19yr old,what i’ve read didn’t have a great season and still ??? over him,what the fuck is going on
Stop praising yourself.
lol what a cum catcher, feltching champ of his own family reunion
o parry you poor sad fuck, hahahahaha
parryheid
Lucas not for you? why, what have you seen you dont like? Fairytales is that you think we are living in cloud cookoo land because you dont believe we’ll ever sign a brazillian wonder kid, he’d never want to sign in sunny Manchester or cookoo because we are saying a garbage player is good?
dela
I didnt get to see the first match was he any good. I asked “EricCantonaToldMeToTweet” if the brazillians tackle back and if Lucas did his job in that regards seen as they are conceding goals now. If you watched to come to your original opinion that 30 million is a tad too much.
Your lally tap I already told you I don’t have the medical skills to converse with you.
@ Wayne : think about all kinds of conspiracy theories when we are linked with Lucan and RVP
YS don’t understand mate Utd bid 27mill that was turned down,what conspiracy theories?
Goatinaunitedshirt.
Its got absolutely nothing to do with his skills and everything to do with the fact he will not be coming here + it is not an area of the pitch we are needing strengthening as you know very well as I have made plenty of posts since the fake interest was first mentioned so if you have a problem with that tough.Now go and find another bandwagon to jump on.
parryheid
was your post at 18.23 directed at me? If it was, sorry to hear that and Ill try to “ignore” you from now on in. But if I do forget and reply to a post no malice is meant.
Whats a lally tap anyone?
how the hell can it be fake interest when Utd have had 3 confirmed bids turned down,wtf
@ Wayne : we dont really want any of those players ,maybe because
we want some else
or we just pissing around : dont want RVP to go to city,
or Lucas really worth that much money
I posted this in another thread but hey ho, it’s a good read.
The Sunday Times July 29, 2012 at 7:06 am
Michael Moritz is a top Silicon Valley investor — and a Manchester United fan. He offers an alternative reading of its float prospectus
WE recently changed our corporate name from Red Football LLC to Manchester United Ltd because we thought the former might be considered un-American and confuse prospective purchasers of our shares with the former Soviet Union’s national team.
Our business is a globally recognised brand and we estimate 10% of the world’s population follow our football team. For our entire 2011 fiscal year our revenue was $513m (£326m) — roughly equivalent to the revenue Google generates every five days.
Our club is being listed in New York because legal and regulatory restrictions are more favourable to people who place enormous amounts of debt on companies than in other venues we have considered — such as London, Singapore and Hong Kong.
We have more than $1 billion of debt due within the next 220 weeks that we have no means of repaying. All the assets of the club have been mortgaged against these debts, including our training ground and even our interest in a small freight warehouse.
Since July 2008, we have paid $792m in interest and other finance costs which is more than Sir Alex Ferguson, our distinguished manager, has paid for all the players he has purchased during the past 20 years.
Because we are so desperate to raise money, our corporate tax rate will rise from the 27% levied in the UK to the 35% required in America.
Our legal structure ensures the Glazer family, our main shareholder, will maintain absolute control over the company after the offering. Between 2001 and 2009 our club paid the Glazers a total of $25m in fees and gave them a $15m loan.
Our executive co-chairman, Avram Glazer, was previously the chief executive of Zapata Corp, a fish-oil producer, that once attempted to become an internet company by changing its name to Zap.com. Zapata was bought in 2009 by Philip Falcone of Harbinger Capital who, last month, was charged with securities fraud by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Our business model is to help the Glazer family, our controlling shareholder, stay one step ahead of the banks. We employ a variety of approaches to achieve this including:
¦ Raising ticket prices. Between 2005 and 2011 we were able to raise the average ticket price by almost 6% a year, which was almost double the rate of inflation in the UK during the same period.
¦ Increasing sponsorship revenue. Guests of our corporate sponsors, such as Nike, DHL, Aon or Turkish Airlines, will soon be able to view our players’ private training sessions. We used to conduct these activities in strict privacy.
¦ Boosting merchandise sales. Our new team shirts (which differ for home and away games) sell for $85. We sell many other branded products including car air fresheners, short nighties for women, four-poster bed canopies and a special men’s fragrance — Eau de Sport.
The competition for player and management talent in the Premier League is intense and our rival owners includes Russian oligarchs, Middle Eastern sovereigns, Indian chicken farmers and American hedge fund managers. Some of these have access to cash — which, unless this offering is successful, we do not.
Fortunately we don’t have to comply with the same reporting obligations as other public companies because our business qualifies in America under the newly passed Jobs Act as an “emerging growth company”. We emerged 134 years ago and in the past nine months our growth was 6%. The word “company” does apply to our club — although in a limited manner.
Old Trafford, our home ground, is called “The Theatre of Dreams”. Prospective purchasers of our stock will understand why.
¦ Michael Moritz is chairman of Sequoia Capital
@ wayne : and u can probably add glazeronomics to it too
parryheid
Im not sure why you or anybody would think that I need a bandwagon to jump on. I am not a member of any group of people or organisation and couldnt give a rats arse what other people think. I havent met anyone in my life half as intelligent as I and just because I come on here it doesnt mean I just follow an opinion. Naturally if Im on a site like this I get to hear of certain players and that alerts interest, how else would I find a player that plays the other side of the world. Its all word of mouth you know. I think Lucas is a really good prospect. To do some of the things hes doing at his age against peers with generally more experience goes to show some qualities that are desirable. The fact that others like him is because the majority know a good thing when they see it but Im not convinced by their arguments and only care about my own. Like you and others on here, Im here to vent my spleen not to be cozy bossom budies with some half wit the other side of the globe. Im on here for purely selfish reasons and dont pretend the opposite.
If you want me to start up another bandwagon how about Coutinho
On a more positive note, went to the footy today, that Neymar looks incredible as does that Costa fella that Chelsea have just paid £25 mill for.
Goatinaunitedshirt.
Lally tap was not for you but our resident crackpot.It’s a saying my Irish grandfather used when putting his finger to the side of his head,and by all means ignore me rather than get yourself fretting,
And Wayne
3 offers really Hah, heard it.
I don’t even know what you’re going on about parry,Sir Alex confrimed it,all these conspiracy theories and fake bids just a bunch of fucking nonsense.How the fuck can it be a fake bid when San Paulo,Utd and Mouras agent all confrimed it.
You’re not making any sense parry,maybe someone else needs meds
Treat everyone with politeness, even those who are rude to you. Not because they aren’t nice, but because you’re nice.
Cheers to everyone!!!!
@mattbw7 : what you have posted is called conjecture in economics..
Us government debts are more than their assets. Doesn’t mean all the people their will die of hunger.
911_DEVIL
Nice sentiment but then you grow up, lol.
All people ‘there’. Terrible grammatical error..
Goat – agree about lucas, however I still feel he’s priced 7 mil too high. Seriously doubt we’ll get him. Will be great if we do.
TC23!!!! in the CMF!!!!!!!!!
Giggs behind striker
Eric Keane, so the US is technically bankrupt? I think you should do a bit of research, try 2.6% of GDP
http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Obama-Advisers-Project-1-2-Trillion-2012-3742386.php
It’s not conjecture. read through it especially the bit about how much our assets are mortgaged plus a fact you can easily check or calculate for yourself, “we have paid $792m in interest and other finance costs which is more than Sir Alex Ferguson, our distinguished manager, has paid for all the players he has purchased during the past 20 years”. Hardly guess work, no?
Matt – if you apply that and see statistics for other football clubs you’ll realise that in terms of loans to assets ratio united are far better placed than most other clubs. Worst comes to worst glazers will cut their losses and sell. They need a billion to break even, quataris are offering 1.5 billion. So don’t think its cutting losses really.
However, quataris owning our club will be a proper nightmare.
Eric, Eric Eric, read the thing again, what do you mean loans to assets ratio, list those clubs, please? Also it’s about the £500 million of club money spunked on nothing but interest and charges, with not one downward movement of the debt mountain, how do you know we’re worth £1.5 billion?
There has been no offer from the Qataris, unless anyone can prove otherwise.
I’m not saying we’re in a good position, just that it aint so bad.
Re the USA – 2.6 gdp aint so great when your credit rating gets degraded by S and P.
GDP is not reflective of anything. India’s GDP is 6.8 percent. Doesn’t make us richer, better, less under debt than the US.
USA GDP for medicine and healthcare grew by 20 percent. That means 20 percent more people fell ill. It determines the amount you buy, and credit is debt which in turn is electronic money. So generally speaking when the GDP grows people don’t get rich. Their propensity to get indebted increases.
TC look a different play in CM only 13 min in looks great!
So Eric, I think that means that US debt levels are not more than their assets, or put it another way insolvent, your original statement was rubbish, now can we get back to the issue at hand?
The quataris valued us that, they were willing to buy us. Galzers valued us at 2.1 bil. If it comes to that they’ll sell, am sure some knucklehead with money to burn would love to buy a thriving brand.
GIGGS!!!!!!!!!!!
Giggs scores!!
TC to Bellamy nice cross to far POST GIGGSYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! heads it home!!!!!
Fred TC looking good in the CM!!!!!!!!
eric keane says:
The quataris valued us that, they were willing to buy us. Galzers valued us at 2.1 bil. If it comes to that they’ll sell, am sure some knucklehead with money to burn would love to buy a thriving brand.
Just one article that confirms this will do Eric, just one.
Are you really so slow? Gdp is not reflective of a nations debt or assets.
As far as united are concerned, 220 weeks is 4 years. I’m sure the glazers will be gone by them. It isn’t feasible for them anymore. And btw way you mentioned we gave them a 15 mil loan. They paid it back with interest while wiping out pik 1
Giggs brought the whole of Wembley to their feet with that one. What a legend.
The grey looks great on him!!!
eric keane I’ve asked you for confirmation of a few things;
That US debt outstrips it’s assets.
That the Qataris value or have bid £1.5 billion for United.
In other words it’s you that’s painting conjecture as fact, so go on link up the verified articles that prove your comments.
As for paying down the PIK debt I think you need to read Andersred.
Spain are 1-0 down again, Honduras their opponents this time. Come on David!
Just in case you can’t be bothered Eric
The amazing disappearing PIKs
Followers of the United financial story will know that out of the blue in November 2010, the Glazer family found £249.1m (around $400m) which they injected into the club as equity and used to repay the infamous “payment in kind securities” (PIKs). These short-term debt instruments had festered on the balance sheet of Red Football Joint Venture Limited for more than four years and had accrued £111m of rolled up interest on top of the original £138m loan.
In August 2010, the PIKs had become even more expensive as the Red Football companies breached a key debt covenant (section 8.2 of this document). The covenant stipulated that total debt in the group (from Red Football Shareholder Limited downwards) should not be more than 5x EBITDA (essentially cash profits before transfers). If debt exceeded this limit (set when the PIKs were issued in 2006), the PIK interest rate would rise from 14.25% pa to 16.25% pa. With debts in August 2010 totalling £773m and EBITDA of £102m the rate duely rose, making the PIKs even more toxic and in need of repayment.
The bond issue of February 2010 had created a “carve out” which allowed the Glazers to take £95m of the club’s cash out and it was widely assumed (and mentioned in the bond prospectus as a possibility) that this money would be used to pay off a chunk of the PIKs. But the Glazers didn’t use the carve out to repay them in November 2010. The exact source of funds is unknown.
What I do know, from impeccable sources, is that the money was borrowed by the Glazer family. They didn’t have £249m in cash, few people do (and the other bits of the family empire are leveraged up already). The money was borrowed by one of their US companies from a single US financial firm.
new post! giggsy scores!!
Matt- I shall give you links when I get a computer. Phone sucks. Can’t do shit on it.
Clev looks good today..really unlucky not to get that goal!!
Let me save you the trouble Eric, you’re wrong, you wont find the links cos there aren’t any.
TC looks good, I agree.
No tippy tappy no win for the Spaniards…
Tiki Taka has no effect in Newcastle! It’s like Superman trying to play on a Kryptonite pitch.
@matty – yawn, still praying for an oil baron buyout I see, get over it pal.
JC, I think you’ve got totally the wrong end of my posts, take that yawn, have a sleep, wake up refreshed and read my posts again.
Fred lol kryptonite pitch! ABU media gonna be all over DDG as poor Spanish player to cost them games but the rest of the team has been shocking. Hate the look of that murainan cub (spelling soz) looks like that ugly full back from Liverpool….Fannyagan is it?! Looks like a retarded lama eating a shit flavoured lemon!
Samuel, if you could read my post again I never stated that he should be signed because we are from the same country. I mentioned that so that you understand that I didnt notice him yesterday or because of the transfer rumours. It will be advantegeous if you could criticise the attributes I have stated or add to them instead of just one part of the entire post.