With there be plenty of fuss concerning United’s local rivals, City, Paul Scholes believes our real hated rivals are Liverpool and Leeds.
“City probably aren’t the closest of rivals, but in terms of geography, if you like they are close rivals and it’s a game you want to win,” Scholes said. “But Leeds away was just pure hatred towards us, but we always did well when we went there and we thrived on it. Liverpool is the same. We have done quite well there, although we have lost a couple of times, which is no surprise because it’s a hard place to go.”
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wow.we have a great recored at anfield.poor leeds.lets not talk about them.struggling in division 2.I do not know much about the leeds rivalary.can someone explain it please??leeds record is nowhere near us in terms of silverware so that cant be the reason? got to be something off the field
The main reason of Leeds rivalry is battle of roses.
In terms of hatred,
WE ALL HATE LEEDS SCUM!
city hate us, we pity them.
Scholesy’s right, Leeds and Liverpool our our biggest rivals. My hatred for the massives doesn’t compare to that for Leeds and the dipper scum.
@mangesh
battle of roses?????
Leeds………. battle of the holbeck estate
battle of the roses…… yorkshire and lancashire, yorkshire the white roses and lancashire the red
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6640509
park and owen not trained for 2moz but van der sar back in training but still might not be back for a fortnight
we all hate leeds scum,
We all hate leeds scum,
We all hate leeds scum!
While leeds and city are big games nothing compares to the liverpoo game. You cant that feeling wen we beat the dippers, roll on the 25th.
Hey, sorry about this, completely off topic but what happened to the new T-shirt with tevez in the derby. Is it gone or out of stock or something?
beat that feeling that shud be.
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Fabregas Arsenal 4
Gerrard Liverpool 4
Lampard Chelsea 4
van Persie Arsenal 4
they forgot to add the assist for diabys goal.
also should his pass for rooneys pen v arsenal count??? we scored from it?
@I wish Fletcher was Irish
dont worry we have gibson
jack
thats 5 in a game and a half
he had 2 before that
and also a goal to boot
scouse bastards are my sworn enemy, cant abide how they go on, at xmas they thought league was theres-bullshit,every season, its there year-bullshit, the crap they sing at shanfield-bullshit,all you hear is livershit livershit livershit, they shit on the field and about as creative in the stands as lucas on the pitch!love it when he plays,fiorentina to do em tnite to set the rot in.a draw this weekend in the borefest hopefully coz dont want chelsea gettin points,said to every1 beginin of season i was more concerned about chelsea than liverfools., but im sayin what i was then,and now, 4 IN A ROW, oh merseyside is full of shit, why we sing elland road full of sheep? good one tho i like it, OH MANCHESTER IS WONDERFULL!!!!!!!!!!!
he got 3 v city
he took the free kick that diaby headed in
assisted 2 v stoke
6 assists already or 7 if you include the pass for rooneys goal v arsenal even though it was a pen
@Ghtt
I wish it was the same thing. Maybe someday he’ll be good enough but now we’re better off with either of the reids(Stephen or Andy).
i hate gunner scum as well……….
remember those twats… fckin keown, cashley cole, parlour……….
fck and them gooners are shit bag pussies as well…
History Lesson: First of it was the war of the roses, not battle.
It was The Plantagenets of York against the Tudors of Lancaster. This war ended the Plantagenet reign in England end heralded the beginning of the Tudors. It ended with Henry Tudor as the victor, and even today the rivalry between Lancashire and Yorkshire can be traced back to this war.
It may be a coincidence, but I believe that one of the reasons why we play in red and the Leeds scums play in white can be traced back to this war? Thoughts?
“Ji-sung has a virus,” Sir Alex Ferguson told his pre-match press conference. “Patrice Evra had it at the weekend. After the Stoke game he felt a bit uneasy – he was in bed on Sunday and didn’t come to training, but he came in for a bit yesterday, came in today and he should be alright.
“Michael should be alright for tomorrow. He had a tight groin in training yesterday, nothing serious. But obviously for the game tomorrow we didn’t want to be pushing that. Other than that everyone’s fit.”
I wish wazza was northern irish, there wud be no stopping us lol.
@aliasrns5 : how can you forget the biggest twat of them all, Vieira.
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I hate Liverpool more than anybody, nobody can even come close. But Going to Anfield was nothing like going to Elland Road, the Hatred was unreal, in there final years in the PL when they still gave us the whole end behind the Goals. Trying to get back to Leeds Central station through the Subway after the game, the Scousers have never turned up like Leeds did.
thanks to everyone who has said why leeds are our rivals.i didnt know mubh about that.
Good morning.
I have a question for all:
would you rather win a piece of silverware or beat the scouse bastards 2x in one year? It can’t be both, one or the other. And I am not talking Carling Cup hardware.
roadkill4u: Definitely silverware. Our rivalry with Liverpool is a big deal, but once you start preferring victories over rivals to winning trophies, you essentially become a City fan: to me, that is what Fergie was talking about when he said the “small club with a small mentality line”.
This will change for sure.. did anyone not think it was sweet to beat City this year?
During the summer I was in a bar/pub in southern california and I got into a serious argument with a jackass wearing a liverpool shirt. He was saying, “you are nothing without your precious Ronaldo…[no joke] this is our year, bla bla bla.” Only goes to show that the scouser species is confused, deluded, and moronic, even when taken out of its natural environment.
tony starks- course it was, it was mainly all the bullshit they were talkin previous to the game that made it more sweet, this is how it feels to be shitty, this is how it feels to be small! i class chelsea as a bigger rival because theyr more of a threat, any way i HATE the fukin lot , livershit, chelsea,gooners,shitty,leeds not in order, id be here for ages tryin and wouldnt get anywhere, U.N.I. T.E.D UNITED ARE THE TEAM FOR ME.
john ferry
i get messages on youtube all the time from liverpool fans
saying this is there year its unreal that you try and talk a sensable talk with these people and they are just deluded
willierednut
spot on..like your thinkin..wazza and big laff up front lol
@roadkill4u
silverware is essential..id take last years title win and bein beat by them scouse cunts all the time…not goin to happen tho..do them home n away and lift number 19
oh and i fucking hate leeds
they are by far my number 1
the dippers is second
but since i was a kid i knew
ya hate leeds
Flecther is Irish…ish… His Granny is from Achill Island, he visits there fairly regularily and has lot of mates over there… Two internationals from Achill island… Zinane Kilbane & Fletch…..
L**ds were rivals on the pitch in the late-60s and 70s when they had a pretty decent, if not, dirty team in those days – hence dirty leeds. The main rivalry with them though was most definitely off the pitch. A Man Utd – L**ds game is not for the faint-hearted. Well known for their Munich songs, l**ds fans are scum. I wouldn’t piss on one if he was on fire….
Scousers (defintley the red variety but don’t ignore the bluenoses) are our main rivals though. On and off the pitch, I cannot stand those tossers. I feel physically sick when we play them in case we get beat. My mate was gutted that chelsea lost at the weekend because he’d rather chelsea win the league if we don’t. Yep, it is that bad….
i always hated leeds mainly because they always sing the munich song. they always mock our gone heroes. city wanted to be as big as leed and us, they copied leeds in singing munich. meanwhile, it was because of the munich-mocking-songs too, that i became so in love with our song Glory Glory, because Glory Glory makes me feel alive, and gives me the determination to fight.
anyway, only clubs with real long history such as us can have this kind of rivalry. even though city are also in manchester, their rivalry with leeds is nothing like us. that says, we are the biggest in manchester. leeds dont look at them, they look at us UNITED!
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED
cantona7
for you mate]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir-lJpj2T2I
I have always hated Fuckin Leeds more then any of our rivals!!!!!!
Liverpool are by far the worst. To call the rivalry big is an understatement. Let’s face it, we thrive off of each other. Life would be complacent if we were only waiting for City to drive us on.
The cities, the geography, the trophies, the fans. I feel privileged to live around such a big derby. It’s up there with the very best of them.
I HATE LEEDS SCUM
@ Roadkill,
It has to be silverware in the scenario you put forward. However, I wouldn’t mind going empty handed for one year in exchange for them getting relegated, that would be fucking priceless!
Definitly agree with Scholes, Leeds & Liverpool are the biggest grudge-matches in my opinion
ha ha ha the dippers are losing 2-0,this is gr8!
Rat munchers 2-0 down. Love it!
fuck me is aig alex is god the first to reply on every article? u should give the guy a job
Leeds. The team in League 1. That Leeds.
anybody been keeping a eye on cleverley?? well i have and he cant seem to stop scoring for watford, his got about 5 already this season, his not even a striker is he?
City fans, for now at least, tend to be Mancs.
Leeds fans are dour Yorkshiremen.
But Cesspool supporters, never forget for a minute, are racially undesirable – that is, Scouse.*
(*Something Wayne saved himself from being in 2004.)
Leeds fans are fucking scum, Elland road is the only ground I’ve been to where I’ve actually feared for my safety. I know several fans from other teams who will echo this as well.
They’re nothing on the scouse bastards though, thats just another level. The mention of Liverpool actually fills my body with hate. Looking at it from a non-football fan’s point of view it is probably completely unfounded and quite pathetic, but we know fucking better and I wouldn’t have it any other way!!!!
Dave_Pistol. hi mate. i have the page open on my mobile or pc. i refresh it after every few mins.maybe you can say i have become a ROM addict. so many intresting articles and great fans to interact with.
i could get a list of 40 things out of some about how torres is the best striker in the land
but the guy is as soft as a saggy tit
on topic
fuck leeds
Torres ain’t got shit on strikers like Wazza, Ronny, Eto’o or dare I say Drogba. He rarely beats a man, lost a few yards of pace, hamstring problems every season, takes about 4 shots to test the keeper and is a diving ladyboy puff.
ghtt.torres is class.only if he can stay on his feet more.guess thats too much too ask from people like torres and drogba.
I wouldn’t mind not winning any trophies for 1 or 2 yr if we beat liverfools 6-0 at home with rooney scoring hattrick, and 7-0 away with michael owen scoring hattrick. Plus we also knock them out of carling cup, fa cup, and CL and make sure those idiots also don’t win any thing.
Dipper scum getting beaten 2-0 at Fiorientina.
Loving it.
@ MUFC the Religion- I gotta disagree with you mate. Granted Torres is not as good as Rooney, Eto and Ronaldo but Drogba? Seriously? He is just a diving moaning bitch, that is immature, wasteful and plays like crap when he doesnt feel like it. Torres is a scum and i hate that fucker but he is WAY better than Drogba. He works hard, is always tracking back, doesnt dive as much as Drogba, is a cynical finisher and always gives 100%.
Anyway Who else cant help but smile victoriously as they watch Liverpool crumble against Fiorentina!!! I thought this was their year?
Scholesy knows his United roots as much as he knows playing midfield, nuff said.
Man i fucking loved the matches against Leeds. The team and fans were proper cunts! Still are
I hope they do make it back into the Premiership, i have to say i miss those matches.
Loserfools beaten 2-0 hahahaha
We all hate Leeds Scum
collymore talkin rubbish on talkshite per usual..the scousers will be on in a minute so ill keep tuned with my beer for a fukin laugh!!!
I honestly have to thank this site. I have learnt a lot abt united here. Stuffs like rivalry, history of the club etc. Before nowI use to like Leeds especially after their victory against Arsenal gave us the title some years ago. Also I remember supporting Liverpool against A.C Milan back then in the european cup final….well that has gone down as my biggest regret so far in the 25 years I have spent in this world.
I have to confess that I only got to understand all this rivalry stuffs here. I have also learnt not to refer to united as Man.U, I am educating United fans here now even though they find weird when I tell them at the pub that it’s offensive to call the club Man.U.
I now hate Liverpool, Leeds and Shitty morethan I hate Arsenal and Chelsea. Before now I use to hate Arsenal very badly.
never to late to learn cherry..
@Ulster Red sure mate. Always willing to learn
there is a real chance liverpool could bomb out in the group stage this year, Fiorentina look a threat and Lyon look scary for anyone…I cant say I would be too disappointed
Ulster Red – What is Collybore the horrible bastard saying?
I live about fifteen miles out of Leeds and was born in Yorkshire and I can safely say they are nasty bitter racist cunts. Get in to arguments with the fuckers all the time. Always calling us Munich’s and how did the “scum” get on. I miss those United v Leeds games.
King Eric,
Hi, yes definately agree with that! Leeds scum are by FAR the most racist morons you can imagine. I could fill several pages with my experiences with them going back almost 40 years. Horrible horrible bastards! Scousers are our biggest rivals but Leeds….Scum, nothing more.
hes half a girl, hes half a boy torres torres
he looks just like a transvestite torres torres
he wears a frock, he loves the c##khe sells his arse on the albert dock
fernando torres,
carraghers bit on the side
enuff on ladyboy!
waynes got more man in his little finger than this fag has in his body
PURE FAIRY
OH HOW DID I FORGET-TORRES-VIDIC GUNA GET YA!
HE COMES FROM SERBIA
HE,L FU##IN MURDER YA
NEMANJA WHoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lol, some classics up there!
I particularily hate Liverpool because I am surrounded by them at work!
Oh how they couldn’t shut up last Christmas… OH SNAP!! By February I could hear a pin drop @ the tea and coffe making facilities!! That was a PRICELESS season!!
The summer gave them hope… so did Burnley… Then Owen & Gigsy just told them to ‘Shut the fuck up!’ hahaha
@ Raj – I’d take that mate! mwahahahahaa
We all love leeds We all love leeds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kysI31TtLk&feature=player_embedded
Torres throws his dildo out the pram after a perfect tackle!! cunt..
Looks like the poor bastards had 11 shot on goal too…
mwahahaha work’s gonna be a breeze this week
thank you GHTT. sorry i’m at my office now, youtube is blocked.. cant wait to get back home and watch that..
@Cheery
best thing is
i remember watching united when i was 5 in an fa cup final with my dad
from there i was a norman whiteside fan who got replaced by some curly headed fella from wales http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kScBIdmZfIs
what ever happened that fella
since 1985 ive been watching manchester united with a love i share with nothing else apart from my kid
ive spent those years from 9 till now watching everything thats going on
ad inthe mean time learning everything that has gone before
books on the club
videos on the club
books on players
excellent itv mini film about 11 years ago about munich
now ive mutv and the internet to learn as much as possible
and i still dont know shit
the amazing thing about a handful of football clubs in the world is that you never stop learning
the first english team to win the european cup
the premier league
2 doubles
a treble
2 time world champions
more fa cups than anyone else
no one has one the league more times that united
they’ve been bankrupt
they lost there ground in ww2 by a miss fired air bomb
one of the greatest young teams in world football lost in tragidy
all came back strong to the team that will win tonight
ghtt
morning mate.
you pretty much summed up our glorious history and the continued recent success.
sometimes i too wonder feel so proud that instead of struggling and going down after Munic disaster United have come back stronger to become the most popular and famous and one of the most successful club in world football
I wanna laugh at the Dippers fine match last night but I don’t wanna count the chickens yet lest we got battered by Wolfsburg today.
looking forward to tonight i think we will have a very difficult game.Wolfsburg will take the game to us. they are a very good side.players like Misimovic,gentner,martins,Grafite,Dzeko can be a handful.we have to defend well because grafite and dzeko have a good understanding.here’s my side.
Foster, brown, evans, evra
Valencia Carrick fletcher nani
Owen Rooney
oh dear once again i have named just 10 players.of course the missing name is vidic.he has to be be careful because grafite is very quick and nippy
I’m a Leeds fan through and through, born and bred in Leeds. I’m forever explaining to people that im not a football fan, I’m a Leeds fan, the difference being i only care about how Leeds fair. I know this is the same for many, many a Man U hardened fanatic. Like us, if Man U ever suffered the same fate, the fans would still turn out in their masses to see them play, what ever the league or amount of heart ache involved. That’s a ‘never give up’ Northern attitude that both sets of fans share. This is my take on what Paul Scholes (who in my opinion is one of the greatest midfielders to grace a pitch in any period) said. He is 100% correct! Fan wise the biggest rivalries in English football contain Leeds, Man U and that alien nation on merseyside… Meetings are always tasty and nasty for all the right reasons, even if all three we in the Northern Uni-Bond league their matches would still get a world wide audience! As much as my innate dislike for man u allows i can readily admit that i can watch fergusons free flowing football and hate it because more often than not its perfect football… And only a few teams in English history can lay a claim to being able to do that: Liverpool of the 80′s, Leeds of the 60′s & 70′s, Arsenal of late and Man U for the last twenty years… An elite club to say the least… Anyway, please wish us a speedy recovery to the prem so both our younger supporters can taste what a real footballing atmosphere is all about… MOT
No comment on the racism inherent in Leeds fans then Gibbo27?Hmmm….
Gibbo27 – this is sticking in my throat but nice note. To be honest I would love to be playing you lot as opposed to someone like stoke who I really don’t give a shit about. And you are our feeder club as well so we need to you to start producing some decent players again
Gibbo27 – decent post for a L**ds scum.. could do with out the offensive Man U shit though.
Does anyone else here enjoy the twisted irony that our greatest player of all time was purchased from Leeds?
*grin*
ExiledRed, thanks for the comment but it seems Villa have dibs on our talent at the moment
! Basically though that was the reason why i posted a comment on here in the first place, i got the feeling that the Man U supporters would prefer to be playing Leeds twice a year whatever the outcome rather than beating half of the teams that make up the prem at the mo… i also posted because i got the impression that a few of the younger posters on here really have no idea about how fierce the rivalry really is between the two clubs and supporters; they need to know (as do alot of younger fans from many a team) that a Leeds United v Manchester United match in any form or guise is one of the greatest atmospheres/rivalries/hate matches etc in the world of football… and a pleasure to behold to boot 
Any proper Manchester United (and Leeds) fan knows this and wants these matches back on the fixture list….
Its In My blood: As for no mention of the inherent racism of the Leeds United fans i really dont think that im in a position to comment on the individual political views of a few million people, is Big Ron a Leeds fan
…
Gibbo27 – Fair play mate. I really do hope you come back up in the next couple of seasons. As I said last night I really do miss the United v Leeds rivalry.
Firstly I’d just like to point out that not all Leeds fans are racist. I remember in the 70′s when the NF used to hand out their racist filth outside the ground. I always took it because I knew that it cost them money to print but then i’d rip it up in front of them. I’ve also never sung about Munich. To celebrate the death of so many young men is just sick I.M.O. But I do love my club and always will and hopefully one day soon I’ll enjoy the old rivalry between our clubs again. MOT
One reason alone Man Utn are so big, we let you have Cantona! We had just won the new premier league with him. And Man UTD, went onto greater things with him. Without him, i doubt it.
Glad to know you haven’t forgotten us! As much as we hate each other,I think we agree that games between us mean more than say Fulham or Wigan. I wonder if you agree that there are only 7 sides who could take the sort of away following we do to 3rd Div games:both Mancs,both Scousers,the Geordies,the Mackems and ourselves;the Southerners wouldn’t manage it. We’re not all scum by the way-I’m sure not all of you are either! There are as many Galatassaray singers as Munich singers. I personally have got no time for either. As embarassed as we are at our current position,you can be 100% certain that we’ll be back!
going back to an earlier post, leeds play in white because don revie wanted us to emulate the all conquering real madrid side of the 50′s. nowt to do with the yorkshire rose. we actually started out with a blue and white striped shirt a la huddersfield, then to blue and yellow halves before the Don took over and changed the course of our history forever. just in case anyone gave a shit!..
MOT!
@GHTT thanx a lot for that chant. I enjoyed that video
i’ll DEFINITELY teach my kids (when i have) to sing that. Please give Emily a big kiss for me 
@GIbbo27 lol are you desperate to let the younger fans learn about our rivalry, or desperate to get back in the Prem? my only wish is, stay there hahahahahahhaha
Anyway, good response for the racism. But what about the munich? you are a Leeds after all..
The main Reason to our Leeds Rivalry is because, probably they were out most Violent Rivals, Always teasing the Munich etc etc.
They didn’t have Rival’s so they came to United -_-
Cantona7, i suppose that I’m desperate for Leeds to be back in the Premiership, the education of the youngsters with regard to the rivalry would then take care of itself…
My personal views with regard to the Munich tragedy are that it was just that, a tragedy, but not just for the fans of Manchester United (although i truly understand that after the families of the unfortunate 23 the Manchester United fans feel the effects of that truly sad night more than anyone else); it was also a tragedy for all true football fans, past, present and future; nobody got to see what that team would/could/should have been… (Leeds fans are lucky in that we got to see our best team mature with no incident…) As said, the worlds of true football fanatics were robbed by the harrowing events of February 6, 1958.
As for the chant, i can’t associate with it, i find it distasteful and disrespectful to say the least… and it also shows a dismissive disregard to the emotions of one of our greatest players, Jack Charlton, who’s brother nearly perished and by his own word is still gravely haunted by the events… I don’t think that the Elland Road faithful will ever stop chanting it, but if Jack were to go on the pitch and tell them to stop it… well we can all live in hope… Although please bear in mind that “always look out for Turks carrying Knives..” is in a similar vein…
Gibbo27 – and I must hold my hand up and confess that I was singing that turks song in response to the munich chants at Old Trafford a few years back. I’m not proud of it but sometimes you get so wound up you just want to retaliate. A few pints of Boddys beforehand didn’t help either!!
Quite a few l**ds on here today. Are you trying to say that home games against carlisle just don’t do it for you boys then?
interesting fact .when Man u played Barcelona you equalled the amount of European finals contested by Leeds .The best in England baring Liverpool of course
AGREE WITH SCHOLESY ON THE WHOLE EVEN THOUGH CIDDY ARE COMING UP ON THE RAILS
Being a born and bred manc supporting the reds since the 60′s i HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE leeds more than any other club. I also hate liverpool with a passion but nothing compares to the hatred for leeds!!! i always find the most loyal fans agree with me here and usually the ‘half arsed’ fans usually hate clubs like arsenal and city