Comments on: Scholes: Ronnie Better Than Cantona, Keane, Beckham, Giggs… http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/ a Manchester United blog Sat, 11 Oct 2008 11:41:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Bruce http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-5519 Bruce Sun, 18 May 2008 05:41:27 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-5519 that's because no one's ever heard of CHRISTiano Ronaldo !! no one will ever claim that Ronaldo is more inspirational than Keane, but i'd say Keano would be the first to admit that Ronaldo's PLAYING SKILLS are far and away better than his. that’s because no one’s ever heard of CHRISTiano Ronaldo !!

no one will ever claim that Ronaldo is more inspirational than Keane, but i’d say Keano would be the first to admit that Ronaldo’s PLAYING SKILLS are far and away better than his.

]]> By: Paddy http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-5472 Paddy Sat, 17 May 2008 05:40:22 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-5472 "At the very least, he is the most formidable and controversial player of our time." Sue Mott, The Daily Telegraph. "It was the most emphatic display of selflessness I have seen on a football field. Pounding over every blade of grass, competing as if he would rather die of exhaustion than lose, he inspired all around him. I felt it was an honour to be associated with such a player." Alex Ferguson Nobody ever said that about Christiano Ronaldo. “At the very least, he is the most formidable and controversial player of our time.”

Sue Mott, The Daily Telegraph.

“It was the most emphatic display of selflessness I have seen on a football field. Pounding over every blade of grass, competing as if he would rather die of exhaustion than lose, he inspired all around him. I felt it was an honour to be associated with such a player.”

Alex Ferguson

Nobody ever said that about Christiano Ronaldo.

]]> By: Bruce http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4438 Bruce Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:17:04 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4438 i'll echo those who said "at the top" doesn't necessarily mean 'better than Cantona, et. al. so it's - at the top *with*... and i believe Ronaldo *can* eventually be better than Cantona, certainly Beckham. the media spotlight comparison with Beckham at their particular ages is unfair because the intensity has *also* since increased so Ronaldo has a lot more to deal with now. i’ll echo those who said “at the top” doesn’t necessarily mean ‘better than Cantona, et. al.

so it’s - at the top *with*…

and i believe Ronaldo *can* eventually be better than Cantona, certainly Beckham.

the media spotlight comparison with Beckham at their particular ages is unfair because the intensity has *also* since increased so Ronaldo has a lot more to deal with now.

]]> By: Salford Red. http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4421 Salford Red. Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:38:41 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4421 On a completely unrelated topic, sorry Scott, i've heard rummors that the gimps plan to charge us up front for eight cup games next season when we renew our season tickets. This effectively means that an extra payment up front of at least £250 on season tickets. With me personally this will mean an immediate outlay of £1050. With credit cards maxed out paying for this years ticket prices, and not taking into account the given price increases next term, i'm afraid that's me out of the game. Like i say sorry to change the subject but it is on a note of some panic that i ask fellow posters have they heard anything re' this development. On a completely unrelated topic, sorry Scott, i’ve heard rummors that the gimps plan to charge us up front for eight cup games next season when we renew our season tickets. This effectively means that an extra payment up front of at least £250 on season tickets. With me personally this will mean an immediate outlay of £1050. With credit cards maxed out paying for this years ticket prices, and not taking into account the given price increases next term, i’m afraid that’s me out of the game. Like i say sorry to change the subject but it is on a note of some panic that i ask fellow posters have they heard anything re’ this development.

]]> By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4420 Tom F Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:52:22 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4420 I agree with the sad reality that Ronaldo won't be here at United forever. I do think that Anderson, Nani etc are here to help build a team around Ronaldo. Trying to wrap him in the history of our club, make him proud to wear the captains armband, make him not want to leave. I think being foreign has a big thing to do with it, Rooney has said he don't want to play anywhere else and if Manchester United was in sunny spain I'm sure Ronaldo will be the same. I find it hard to imagine Ronaldo playing against Manchester United, but before he goes I'm sure we'll have to deal with the departure of Sir Alex as well as Giggs, Scholes and Neville... that is another difficult reality and like when Cantona left we will move on, there'll be more quality players coming along for us to argue over and sing praises. Anderson vs Villa. Amazing by the way!!! I agree with the sad reality that Ronaldo won’t be here at United forever. I do think that Anderson, Nani etc are here to help build a team around Ronaldo. Trying to wrap him in the history of our club, make him proud to wear the captains armband, make him not want to leave.

I think being foreign has a big thing to do with it, Rooney has said he don’t want to play anywhere else and if Manchester United was in sunny spain I’m sure Ronaldo will be the same.

I find it hard to imagine Ronaldo playing against Manchester United, but before he goes I’m sure we’ll have to deal with the departure of Sir Alex as well as Giggs, Scholes and Neville… that is another difficult reality and like when Cantona left we will move on, there’ll be more quality players coming along for us to argue over and sing praises.

Anderson vs Villa. Amazing by the way!!!

]]> By: corea http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4419 corea Tue, 01 Apr 2008 06:25:54 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4419 Undoubtedly he has to win with the club the champions league and to prove that he is strong in the most important games against the strong opossition. I agree with Comment by Scott the Red on April 1, 2008 3:44. Scholes is my favorite player, Rooney will be the next one fo me after prince retires. But you just cannot take away from Cristiano what he has done this season. Lets wait a couple of months. Only time will tell. Of course the commitment to the club is also very impotrant thing. Undoubtedly he has to win with the club the champions league and to prove that he is strong in the most important games against the strong opossition.
I agree with Comment by Scott the Red on April 1, 2008 3:44.
Scholes is my favorite player, Rooney will be the next one fo me after prince retires.
But you just cannot take away from Cristiano what he has done this season.
Lets wait a couple of months. Only time will tell.
Of course the commitment to the club is also very impotrant thing.

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4416 Scott the Red Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:44:15 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4416 Neil - When Beckham was 21 he scored "that" goal against Wimbledon. He was a part of the United "kids" who would never win anything that went on to win the Double when he was 21. When he was 22 he started going out with Posh Spice. You don't think he had the media spotlight on him? Ronaldo is 23. What had he done by the time he was 21? Won the FA Cup? Beckham was in his late 20s when he started showing an interest in his life off the pitch. By the time Ronaldo was 22, he'd had a rape case (which he wasn't convicted of), stories of him shagging several prostitutes in the press, dated a glamour model (Gemma Atkinson), and modelled for several companies. Ronaldo has got years on Beckham and I can't see him toning it down, particularly if he scoops the prizes for football we imagine he will. Can you imagine Ronaldo as World and European Player of the Year? It won't be pretty in a few years. Neil - When Beckham was 21 he scored “that” goal against Wimbledon. He was a part of the United “kids” who would never win anything that went on to win the Double when he was 21. When he was 22 he started going out with Posh Spice. You don’t think he had the media spotlight on him?

Ronaldo is 23. What had he done by the time he was 21? Won the FA Cup?

Beckham was in his late 20s when he started showing an interest in his life off the pitch. By the time Ronaldo was 22, he’d had a rape case (which he wasn’t convicted of), stories of him shagging several prostitutes in the press, dated a glamour model (Gemma Atkinson), and modelled for several companies.

Ronaldo has got years on Beckham and I can’t see him toning it down, particularly if he scoops the prizes for football we imagine he will. Can you imagine Ronaldo as World and European Player of the Year? It won’t be pretty in a few years.

]]> By: Neil http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4415 Neil Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:29:32 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4415 Scott - I don't think you can compare Ronaldo's urge to be in the spotlight to Beckham. You don't see Ronaldo hanging out with Tom Cruise and Will Smith do you? I'd say there's a big difference in endorsing a jeans and appearing in lavish spreads in Vanity Fair and Vogue. As far as the argument that Beckham at 23 didn't indulge in the celebrity life - Ronaldo was introduced to the first team at 18, and with Fergie giving him the no.7 and paying 12 million for him, everyone's attention was always going to be focussed on him from the start. Scott - I don’t think you can compare Ronaldo’s urge to be in the spotlight to Beckham. You don’t see Ronaldo hanging out with Tom Cruise and Will Smith do you? I’d say there’s a big difference in endorsing a jeans and appearing in lavish spreads in Vanity Fair and Vogue.

As far as the argument that Beckham at 23 didn’t indulge in the celebrity life - Ronaldo was introduced to the first team at 18, and with Fergie giving him the no.7 and paying 12 million for him, everyone’s attention was always going to be focussed on him from the start.

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4414 Scott the Red Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:44:14 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4414 I think Ronaldo is special. The most special player we've had since Cantona. He has something about him that is magical. I can't fall for him though because he won't be with us forever. We're a stepping stone for him and whilst I can sing his praises, can be left speechless by his goals and skills, he doesn't move me entirely. He doesn't move me like Cantona did, Giggs did, Keane did. Maybe that will change, I don't know, but right now, I'm not completely sold on him. Can I see Rooney staying with us forever? Yes. Can I see Ronaldo? No. So I just can't ever feel for him the way I have about players who I thought loved the club almost as much as I do ;) lol. But he's special. No doubt about it. Everything he touches turns to gold at the moment and long may that continue! I think Ronaldo is special. The most special player we’ve had since Cantona. He has something about him that is magical.

I can’t fall for him though because he won’t be with us forever. We’re a stepping stone for him and whilst I can sing his praises, can be left speechless by his goals and skills, he doesn’t move me entirely. He doesn’t move me like Cantona did, Giggs did, Keane did. Maybe that will change, I don’t know, but right now, I’m not completely sold on him.

Can I see Rooney staying with us forever? Yes. Can I see Ronaldo? No. So I just can’t ever feel for him the way I have about players who I thought loved the club almost as much as I do ;) lol.

But he’s special. No doubt about it. Everything he touches turns to gold at the moment and long may that continue!

]]> By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4413 Tom F Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:27:59 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/scholes-ronnie-better-than-cantona-keane-beckham-giggs/#comment-4413 Scott- In my opinion Ronaldo today, is the best ever United player. We're surrounded by hype, build up and experiences which involve Ronaldo being the hero week in week out. Best, Cantona, Beckham, All those number 7's have ben surrounded in it. My hero is Scholes. Though, I cannot judge whether Ginge means ''he is up there'' or ''he is the best'' simply because the way he is quoted doesn't refer to the original question posed. Scott-FCUOM. your thoughts? Scott- In my opinion Ronaldo today, is the best ever United player. We’re surrounded by hype, build up and experiences which involve Ronaldo being the hero week in week out. Best, Cantona, Beckham, All those number 7’s have ben surrounded in it.

My hero is Scholes. Though, I cannot judge whether Ginge means ”he is up there” or ”he is the best” simply because the way he is quoted doesn’t refer to the original question posed.

Scott-FCUOM. your thoughts?

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