November 30th 2008: Ronaldo sent off
Cristiano Ronaldo received one of the most ridiculous red cards I’ve ever seen, thanks to Howard Webb, during the derby a couple of seasons ago.
Already on a yellow card, a corner was delivered in the direction of Ronaldo who had created the space for a free header. However, instead of putting the ball in the back of the net, he batted the ball away with his hands. It was obvious he was not trying to score and as he landed, looked confused to see the ref walking towards him. He mimed a ‘whistle’, making it clear he thought the whistle had gone, but Webb sent him off regardless.
January 11th 2009: Wrongly disallowed goal
At 0-0, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney took a clever corner, which Ronaldo scored from. Webb hadn’t been paying attention though so disallowed the goal.
The Telegraph: The official reason given by the linesman was that Rooney had not informed him as to his intentions, but Ferguson questioned whether this was in fact necessary. Dermot Gallagher, the former Premier League referee, backed up Ferguson’s assertion that the goal should have stood, describing the corner routine as “creative and innovative.”
April 25th 2009: Palacios escapes red card
The game that everyone talks about when Howard Webb and Manchester United are mentioned is the 5-2 vs Spurs. We were 2-0 down before he awarded a penalty after a challenge on Michael Carrick. In real time, it looked as though Carrick had taken the ball around the keeper before getting floored, when replays showed the keeper got his finger tips to it before taking Carrick out.
However, at 0-0, Wilson Palacios was guilty of a clear red card offence in the 7th minute for a two footed lunge on Ronaldo. Fortunately, our Portuguese winger got out of the way or he could have suffered a serious injury.
Ronaldo knows all too well that going in studs raised results in a red card, even if you don’t make contact, after he was set off for going in one footed and missing the player in the derby a few years earlier.
September 20th 2009: Stone wall penalty not awarded against Chelsea
At 1-0 to Chelsea at Stamford Bridge, Ricardo Carvalho brought down Robbie Keane in the box, but no penalty was given.
The Guardian: Absolute 100%, 24-carat stonewall penalty to Spurs. Not given. Keane was through, but in by what may well have been an attempted control from Lennon, Carvalho slides in just as Keane is set to pull the trigger. Not a world class decision from the man who is supposed to be England’s world class refereee.
April 10th 2010: Stone wall penalty not awarded against Chelsea II
At 0-0 in the FA Cup semi-final, John Obi Mikel brought down Agbonlahor in the box but nothing was given.
The Mirror: No surprise that Webb bottled Villa’s nailed-on Wembley penalty claim.
In the same game, John Terry was guilty of making a horrific challenge on James Milner, clearly worthy of a red card, but was just shown a yellow card.
Stats from The Telegraph.
After 8 occasions when Webb has been in charge of Chelsea games, he has never awarded a penalty against them.
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Schalke comes first people….Not reached final yet.
No they should fear US!!!!!!!
Fuck!. I’m scared now:-P
FUCK!! How was that not a red? Must have been painful.
STR
Chelsea fans have 11 REDS to fear on the pitch….. Nice write up mate, goes to show how fickle the media is mind you
carvalho 5 challenges….yet no red. Bloody chelski luck follows you everywhere
Ooouucchh…. Just looking at that pathetic challenge by the CLLC sends a shiver down my spine.. Are you sure it was just a yellow? That should have been Section 307 of IPC
Webb may have been kind to Chelsea, but he has also been kind to us,
This is probably why his appointment seems right to the FA. I just hope that we get the win we need and that this time (just once in the PL) the win is fair for both teams.
By the way, What are the odds of Madrid scoring 2 in the second half
Chelsea fans should fear the fact that martin Atkinson is not in charge. However, Webb has been to known to fuck up too. Lets just hope that doesn’t happen on Sunday. I want us to beat them clean.
A silent prayer – Dear blogging gods, please send me a troll… I am in a bashing mood. Amen
CedarsDevil
lol. Amen 2 that
Cristiano Ronaldo had played Higuain in then taken out Javier Mascherano with a needless dive, clipping his heels. I don’t understand Ronaldo’ thinking there – he went over deliberately, with his own team-mate clean through.
game over!
can’t discribe how much i hate biscuits, pedro, alves and mascherano
Should we get to the final and as it seems play them diving cunts then I would want thing only out of the match….. Scholes coming on with 10 minutes to go and in one tackle he takes out both biscuits and Pedro in one tackle, resulting in both having to leave the pitch on a stretcher
# one # missing from the post
CedarsDevil
No one better Scholsey outplaying Xavi and Iniesta lol
Real should’ve played like this in the 1st leg, they certainly are capable of beating barca.
Anyway, it’s not like I care who we’ll meet in the final, bring it on you ‘the best team in the world ever’ fuckers!
MG
Have to agree buddy, but sometimes pain is more rewarding than victory!
With out Messi the cunts would not be better than Wigan
They have all made shit loads of mistakes. Doesn’t matter who it was we could have a list as long as your arm for all of them. Webb in my opinion is the best one, imposing ref, won’t stand for any shit, and isn’t afraid to send someone off. Fervid called for a strong referee, I think we have got that this time.
Mind you them 1 billion set up team are pure crap
If we get to final I hope we destroy barca!
There’s no doubt they play great football but they are cheating cunts! Fucking divers!
chelsea should be scared because there’s no atkinson to save them.united won’t lose 2 matches in a row again cos it’s squeaky bum time.
If we get to the final I hope we destroy barca!
They may play great football but they are cheating diving cunts!
What a diving knobhead is dat ex dipper.. Fuckin cheat. Simply wish scholesy retires the way zidane did.. One right in the chest of that diving twat
the only way real can win major trophies back is by buying messi, the same way they bought figo.
And to beat Barca, united cannot play like they did against The Arse last sunday or against city in FA Cup. Real manage to tie Barca today by playing aggressively, closing them down quickly and doesn’t give messi many space to work. We can emulate their way and with far better defenders, I BELIEVE United will destroy those cunts (especially Pedro and biscuits).
mascherano is one dirty motherfucker. The mere sight of him makes me want to puke. A real class A Cunt. And Pedro on a yellow blocks the ball twice in a free kick. Normally both would be clear yellows, not this time though. Maybe Mourinho is right…
m pretty sure all of you will like this article on Chicharito on http://theunitedlegacy.blogspot.com . Sums up his impact very well. If you like the article become a follower of the blog. Cheers fellas
If we go through tomorrow night I can only see defeat at wembley.
CedarsDevil – agreed messi is the difference between the 2 sides, without messi they lack the cutting edge and interchangable pace 2 beat sides. Villa xavi and iniesta are gd, but messi is that gd they could be called a 1 man team. They called united a 1 man team last season, so why not barca in the past 2 season. Look how they struggled in 2008 when messi was injured they were very pridictable
breaking news………….. the oscars judges dont know who to award BEST ACTOR saying it was VERY tight between ten candidates, i think it goes to pedro the fag?
AnyOne Remember When Our Boy Scholsey Capoeira Kicked Sergio Biscuits in The Rome final
Hopefully Wayne Steps on Messi’s Nuts or Mascherano who’d probably Blow into Smitherines with Pain
@bigred
my vote goes to the ex dipper
@captaink9, When we go through tomorrow and if we beat Barcelona in the final, I hope you see a large hole and dive into it.
If one more person comes in here and say that they are being realistic about our chances of beating Barcelona, I will go on a mass-murder spree and become new Public Enemy No. 1 for the U.S.
If every fan thought like you during the 2008 Semi Final against the same golden team, there would never have been a BELIEVE poster and United would not have won the 3rd European Cup. I hope people like you stop supporting United because you are a disgrace to this glorious club and are a smear on its wonderful name.
READ: Being REALISTIC: IF we make it through, match starts at 50-50 odds. United to win 50% and Barcelona to win 50%. Any other thought and you are not realistic, you are a pessimistic FUCKER and should not support this wonderful club. PERIOD.
Yes, I am older than you think, the CAPS is not because I am retarded, it is because I am fucking raging right now.
Utd won’t beat barca by playing like they did against arse hmmmm that’s pretty fucking deep
There are a lot of nerves about at the minute, this Shalke side isn’t finished yet. We could all be on here on Thursday rueing those missed chances, I’m telling you all our over confidence could be our undoing here.
Chelsea title…Liverpool 4th and us out in the Semis, doesn’t read well.
captain k9 do us all a favour and fuck off with your negative comments eh
@RedMegleeker, Fans can be as overconfident as we want. That’s what separates us from the players. Our emotions don’t matter when it comes to actually doing something on the pitch.
The Gaffer on the other hand has been doing this for 26 years and I don’t think he is going to take anything lightly. Neither are the players who share the same philosophy.
I cannot see Schalke scoring 3 goals against this United defense which has not conceded away from home all season in Europe.
The future?
Barca Possession 99%
Barca passes 1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
Messi shots on Goals – 1 000 000 000 000
Manchester 1 Barcelona 0
well we are at home against the rent-boys and still some supporters are scared. we haven’t lost at home all season and only dropped two points( guess it was against WBA). what makes some of you think chelsea will beast us at Old Trafford. Im actually relaxed about the remaining games. even if rent-boys do manage to get a draw we are in pole position.At worst case scenario if we lose they will go at top by goal difference which cant be more than one. then we have Blackburn and Blackpool. Chelsea will have to go to everton and im sure in last two games we will score more than rent-boys would manage.it might be the case that I’m over confident but i cant see the title going any place else other than
well guys cheer up and get behind the lads. Our Red Devils need us, quit whining and get ready for no.19.
Bring on Schalke tomorrow. Hopefully we will reach the finals and claim our fourth CL by beating those diving cunts in Barcelona.
I’m so sick at commentator who already thinks Barcelona already won the CL. This team was beaten by Real Zaragoza for goodness sake. So tired of this BS
Already we have negativity
Manchester United are not worthy of confidence because United have never achieved anything in their history
Manchester United are already going to lose to chelsea and Schalke are going to put 10 past us tomorrow
Manchester United have done nothing this season to warrant any respect
Manchester United are just shit – all the media are correct – this is the worst side ever in world football – and the FA were right to make SAF and Rooney into scapegoats castrating them for nothing incidents when others have done far worse this season
United should just fucking sell up and go around world tours keep the supporters happy because no one from Manchester supports United
Something like that then?
A cocky Barcelona might be our best hope of beating them. The way they dive and roll around the pitch, is nothing short of disgraceful. Part of me thinks, we should play the cunts at their own game.
Let’s BeLIEve
Seriously, if you bringing stats from the telegraph paper, at least have the decency to bring the first table which shows that Manu have 77% winning record with Webb (13 games) against Chelsea’s 38%. Or that don’t adds up to the rest of the article?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8490553/Howard-Webbs-track-record-when-refereeing-Manchester-United-and-Chelsea.html
captaink9
Fuck off – seriously city fan fuck off – no one wants to LIE but the truth with you is pretty acceptable now
Off you go moron
I f**king hate Mascherano, even more than when he was a dipper. He was falling all over the place tonight, I hope he plays against us (hopefully) at Wembley, cos he’s shit. I’m more worried about Barca’s playacting than their footballing abilty.
MG – dont feed the trolls, let them starve. Because right now until sunday, we will see more trolls on ROM giving it large. it is part of being a united fan, having to put up with shit like this,
FITB
It’s true – trolls only get off on United – not even Barcelona the worlds best team TM is news worthy as much as United are…
@captaink9:
Are you color blind? This is United forum and it’s red everywhere. Go back to your beloveth city forum
MG – That’s why we’re Hated, Adored,but never ignored!
captaink9
My prayers have been answered………… Now fuck off you bitter cunt and dust off your empty cabinet…
listen you can say all you want about refs when all is said and done we will beat you cuz were better than you simples KTBFFH
Listen you negative cunts on any given day utd can beat anyone I’ve never gone into any game thinking utd will lose what the fuck is wrong with you
It’s quite obvious who UEFA are pushing to win the Ch.League isn’t it? Mourinho comments last week were somewhat hypocritical, but there was a lot of truth in them too.
@shebangsthedrums
Adoringly appropriate
This time I love it that we are underdogs and have no hope
No hope against chelsea no hope against Barca – if we get there
We are just doomed – might as well start going to church or wherever anyone wants to go to
Stop giving captaink9 any air time. Just ignore him.
Costas if thats the case then we have to defy UEFA to beat those diving cunts…
Im confident we will get our revenge for 2009.
i will to see Rio lifting them up in final like he did to Cahill….
In the game:
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“It isn’t a final of the CL if Barca aren’t there – Alan Smith ex Arsenal – therefore fuck Arsenal like Arsenal supporters were saying yesterday as long as Barca make it – what fucking unbelievable comments!
The best team in the world – commentator – actually it’s Inter because the FSW did manage to win that for them lol
I could carry on – the Messi drool was epic-ly sick – the Barca wank fest was unbelievable the commentator next to Smith said of Barca v Madrid – it’s Good v Evil
Now I know we have allegiances and all that and things can get heated – but for him to say that was nigh on deplorable – absolutely fucking disgraceful – at the end it’s all up to United
That’s it.
*i will love to see Rio lifting them up in final like he did to Cahill….
Come again?
Yep commentator in the game said of Barca against Madrid – Good v Evil
And then you think of the arrogance – but hey we are no hopers – so with that hope of not hoping for hope let’s hope for the best that the Lord giveth to those that pray for hope
Barca make me puke..For a team thats so talented, why on God’s green earth would they resort to such disgraceful antics??Its fucking disgusting..And the fact that they are associated with UNICEF makes me puke even more..BAstards such as biscuits, pedro and mascherano should in no way be related to UNICEF..
danny – The win % isn’t relevant, that’s why it’s not included. If in those games we won, it was always because of dodgy decisions, that would be different, but that isn’t the case. People claim that Webb makes more favourable decisions for United. The fact that he has so often made decisions in Chelsea’s favour, which aren’t highlighted by the press collectively, works nicely to disprove the hysteria from today.
STR
Knicking stats from the telegraph
That’s a new one
the virus and barca are has bad has eachother, both disgusting clubs who behave so horribly in their own way.
I had a bad feeling that Chelsea will get another decision over all the press the referee is getting…. I remember it was the same before semi-final of F.A Cup in 2009 against Everton where Moyes criticized referee and said he was a United fan and then we got denied a clear penalty.
expected too much apparently as i thought someone’d break biscuit’s and alves’s legs. Ooh…mascherano’s and pedrocunt’s too…
Oh and messi’s too…
Damn!!
Chelsea shouldn’t fear Webb,they should fear United!
I am 100% Sure We Will The Champions League Final If We Win The Semi
1- Barca are rubbish away from home (inluding League,CL etc) They struggle To adapt to Other Pitches and play to 100% at the Nou Camp.
2- We have More Fans At Wembeley 60/40
3- Barca have never played on a Wembeley Turf & Will Need Time To adapt to the Atmosphere and Pitch because the pitch is spongey,slow and the ball doesn’t move well. They need a good pitch and cant play ariel balls, nor do they have the players.
4- Barca’s Weakness is being hit by Crosses and we have Vida, Rio, o’shea, Wazza, Chico, Carrick, Fletch as our presence in the air. With Great Crosses from Giggs, Valencia, Nani,carrick, Rooney, Evra, Rafael, Oshea etc.
5- another weakness of barca is that they cover space very well ! However Xavi,Iniesta & Busquets do not harrass players on the ball they block space to pass. So guy like Carrick, giggs, rooney,valencia,nani etc will need to hit quick instinctive passes.
6- Messi Likes to drop back from midfield to get the ball, it should be passed around in rotation who gets him. 1st carrick 2nd park 3rd Fletch Etc
7-Shield the ball & pass quick to a wide man, so we can win corners & throw ins and hit them on the set pieces
8-Rooneys gotta give them hell ! giggs needs to remain cool as usual, fletch has to shield the ball & cut out passes, Park Run Like Mad
9- We Defend with 11, attack with 9 including VDs long accurate kicks.
10- Most of all after rome 2009….revenge is needed….be cold,ruthless, agressive, fast, strong…epitomise English Football.
————-Vds————–
Fabio—rio——vida—-Evra
Valencia —fletch —carrick—Park
————-giggs—Rooney———–
or if we’re really scared LooL
Vds
Oshea
Rio
smallings
Vidic
Evra
Valencia
Park
Fletch
Giggs
Rooney
@ clint
Behind u 100%, saying and doing are different though.
unless I missed it Howard Webb was also referee when he permitted Emmanuel Adebayor to score the opening goal with his hand in our crunch title deciding match. The game where Ronaldo scored a penalty and Hargreaves a freekick.
@brett1985, Was that Webb. Ha ha ha ha. I recall being amazed that he was selected for the WC. But then, who else to send…….
Myths. Simply myths that Webb favours us, he’s done us plenty of times. Ref are like coppers all a bunch of cunts. Press are going to run with this story all week in order to put pressure on Webb to favour Chelski. Didn’t like the Fergies press conference today about freshning things up in order to be ready for Chelski. It smelt like if we don’t rest players we’re fucked. Very unlike him, hopefully mind games but still makes me nervous.
Who gives a fcuk what the Rent Boyz think of Webb being the referee at Old Trafford?
Fcuk me we’ve suffered enough by the hand of Atkinson. Now the tables are turned it’s great stuff.
Alpha_RS – has long has united do their job that is required on sunday thats all I care about
Plus all this chat about Barcelona makes me laugh.
Should United get to the final I’m sure SAF has a plan.
Let’s not forget he was analysing the 2009 Champions League Final the day after the loss.
@fergie is the boss
United should have done the job against Arsenal and then the Chelsea game wouldn’t have been so important. But now any win for the Rent Boyz will take them top through goal difference. But since when have United done it the easy way?
Alpha_RS – well if you saw my past posts, how annoyed I was on our draws to everton fulham away, and the home draw with west brom. Lets not forget the screw job at SB
I don’t like the smell of this intense Howard Webb-United publicity in the media. One way or other, it applies this reverse psychology thing, where Webb will feel obligated to show that no, indeed he is unbiased, by giving Chelsea the 50-50s, if not more. While we don’t need a ref who is biased towards us, we do need a ref who is “strong and fair”. I really, really don’t like the smell of this.
Fuck off you vagrant cunt: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1383217/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Sir-Alex-Fergusons-partisan-agenda-insults-referees.html
@kings The writer didn’t seem THAT big of a cunt to me. Though he accused SAF of influencing the referee, atleast he made it clear that the decisions get evened out.
Also he sort of defended SAF’s post match rant against Atkinson.
But the only thing that really pissed me off was when he accused SAF of not blaming his players for the defeat. I am sure he would have given them a piece of his mind, but do you expect him to do so in public?
All in all i feel the writer is unbiased, and his other articles have been good reads.
Fergie us stirring this one up. Watch Rooney go down in the area the first time Luiz touches him. That’ll decide the game and the title. Mark my words.
@ Balaji Sivaraman says: not at all worried about Schalke or Barcelona.
Much more worried about the league.
On current form it’s not looking good.
but we are a different side at home, i think we went for a draw at emirates and we were on teh back foot..it wont be the case in the next two games..
we are going to rip them apart..
first we need to defend well against schalke, i m not sure of our attack in tonight’s game but i see a goal for us and then wrap it up by defending..
we need to firing on all cylinders against chelsea, the 14 players team.
I’m actually sick talking about refs. As long as we don’t mess it up, we will be fine and we’ll win come Sunday. I honestly can’t imagine the importance of the game, and that’s what the FA exactly wanted. We’re psychologically disadvantaging ourselves by constantly pointing out ref errors. But having said that, i heave a sigh a relief that it’s not chelsea’s bribed over ref atkinson. I’ll just pray and hope good and right decisions will be made.
If we beat/draw Schalke today, we’ll go to the finals, and whoa is this the first time we are concrete underdogs in a game? Everybody will expect Barca to win, and that’s good for us. No pressure, and i’m sure our lads will be absolutely psyched up considering how we lost with our no-show in Roma 2009. I’m anxious about the game today, considering that it’ll be quite a changed team. And we have no choice. I hope Carrick, Valencia, Park,Giggs, Rooney, Chicharito and Pat gets a full rest. I’m guessing the entire midfield will be changed together with the front 2. Smalling in for Rio, don’t want to risk Rio after 3 games in a row, and maybe O Shea in too. We have to do the job fast and quick and i’ve got a feeling it may be Berba’s floodgates in Europe opening today. And possibly, if Berba does well today, he could start against chelsea. If you noticed, he made quite a bit of difference when he came on against Arsenal, he links up the front and the middle. This is a freakingly big week.
barca players like pressing a lot………… atleast 2-3 players are available near where the ball is………. switching play from left to right and vice versa with long diagonal balls can really hurt them…….. plus they are a small team……… in height………. good headers of the ball can prove to be a real handful for them………. damn sure fergie would have learnt his lessons from rome and we shut them up for good…………
@TheGreatSirAlex
I agree with your first 2 lines. We are at home, where we’ve only dropped 2 points so far. So we shouldn’t be scared. I’m not saying we should be cocky/arrogant. We just should be calm focussed and confident.
Ah and as we talk about complacency and focussing, let us fans do the job today. We must replicate the fantastic atmosphere during the barca semi-final 08, for both today’s and Sunday’s game.
btw watched a few bundesliga matches this seasonand the playmaker that caught my eye is nuri sahin of dortmund………… excellent passer and vision………. good at delivering set pieces……….. 23 years old and just 1 year remaining in his contract…….. would be available on a cheap……….. found this video……. check if u wish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy-5PzWzxYY
please dont do this Scott – dont try to find excuses already…we need to be men and win this one… let us not have prejudices over the ref
CROoney – Erm, you’ve missed the point. The media were yesterday claiming that United now had an advantage because Webb favoured us. I was just pointing out this clearly wasn’t the case. Nothing to do with excuses.
The fact that every media has to talk about the appointment of a referee in a game as huge as this should strike home to the F.A. that referees are more important than they should be ideally. If the referees in the PL really did their job properly, the press would be talking about the teams that are taking the field. But the fact that so much fuss is made about the man in black, it means somebody in the League is not doing their job right.
But, hey, what the hell, if they thought as rationally as that, we wouldn’t have so much problems, would we?
oh, I see Scott….
@ Passe
I noticed that too regarding Pedro last night twice blockling quick free kicks from 2 yards whilst on a yellow. Compare that to Van Persie for not hearing the whistle it makes you wonder………..just gonna jump on the met b4 a swift couple in the Trafford!
UTID
The problem is, Webb is the best England has to offer!
The last comment about him never givin a penalty decision against chelsea. I do remember him giving a few united’s way though (Liverpool or tottenham ring any bells?). Didn’t think to mention that though? Completely biased and misleading article. Maybe if teams such as United and Chelsea won games fair and square and possesed enough sportmanship qualities to point out a referreing error that went in their favour, then we would be talking about the great players of both team and the tactics rather than the choice of ref. Expecting some hate for this comment.
Sir Howard Webb.