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Should Moyes have fined Welbeck, Cleverley and Young?

Pictures appeared in the press last week showing Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley and Ashley Young going out in town after the defeat against Bayern Munich. They were out until the early hours and were seen dancing in the street and chatting up girls.

Reports in the press have today claimed that Moyes has fined the players for this.

With five games left and essentially nothing left to play for, is there anything wrong with our players going out and enjoying themselves? Or should the players be expected to show more sensitivity than that on the back of a dreadful season?

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  1. BerbaGod says:

    What have they actually done wrong ? Is it in their contracts that they are not allowed to go out ? Not like we had a match last weekend either. Don’t see the big deal here whatsoever. Moyes fining them just makes a mountain out of a mole hill.

  2. Gary Mitrovic says:

    Damn right he should find them. They’re professionals at the end of the day and the season is still in full swing whether there is nothing to play for or not. It’s bloody unacceptable as far as I’m concerned.

  3. Tommy says:


    Spot on mate, me and other reds spend hundreds going to Munich and these decide to go and get pissed, Least we know their gutted about going out of the champions league, Utterly rediculous, I would suspend them for the rest of the season

  4. Gary Mitrovic says:

    Tommy, I’m surprised the question needs to be asked. Fergie would not have stood for it and rightfully neither does Moyes. You wouldn’t have seen Keane, Scholes or Giggs going out after being dumped out the champions league like that.

    These lads need to make up their mind, do they want to be elite players with long careers and devote themselves to the sport entirely or do they want to be a playboy on the side.

    I know it’s only a night out in some peoples eyes but that’s not the point. If you want all the highs of playing on the biggest stages and experiencing the massive highs you need to dedicate yourself 100% and going out for a piss up after being dumped out of Europe insults me as a supporter.

  5. Gary Mitrovic says:

    Young and Cleverley should be moved on in the near future. They’re mediocre players at best and should only ever be considered as squad players at the very best. It seems they have a care free attitude to crashing out of the champions league as well and not even being in it next season. They don’t deserve to play for Manchester United.

    I’m not excusing Welbeck either becsuse he’s as much in the wrong in them. Welbeck himself is far from the finished article despite his attributes. I’m still in the fence when it comes to Welbeck about his future potential. He’s turned up in big games in Europe over the last couple of years, but his consistency levels are infuriating and his finishing average at best. He has a long way to go.

  6. Reefer says:

    Partly why these guys are seen as squad players at best. A beer or two in the hotel lounge ok, but what is being described as a piss up is not acceptable.

  7. utd4evr says:

    @BerbaGod… winning the champions league was our only chance to make it through to next years Champions League. So the match against bayern was no ordinary one, it was really a special one with billions of united fans extending their faith and hope towards the player and the manager. To say its ok as they are all proffesional is very unfair for the fans. Further, I dont think man utd have ever treated football just as a professional sport. Playing good football and the desire to win every match has been in their blood. Not only that the bond between the players and club was really strong, and you could see that in every game. But now i fear, all this is diminishing day by day…when I see the players behaving in this manner, i feel that there is no love towards the club, all what matters for them is a position in starting XI…

    If you can smile, laugh and dance after such defeat then for sure it was not an important game for them. it should be heavily condemned by each and every one associated with untd.

  8. HillbillyMUFC says:

    Painful. I have never played at those lofty heights, but have been devastated after losses in “important” games during my time. The fact that these multimillionaires don’t give a shit is clearly shown in their post-game antics. Anybody with the finishing skill of Mr. Welbeck would do well to practice instead of dancing. High time to promote some of the reserve team blokes, who, one hopes, at least care for the club that feeds them.

  9. LoneStarRed7 says:

    Moyes should fine himself for stupidity, rigidity and failure to take a well oiled machine which had been painstakingly turned into a factory of champions and coming in from a minnow of a club and reinventing the wheel and thus destroying it.

    All he had to do was keep the pieces in place, and learn on the job. But no, he and his “experienced staff” knew better. What did that get us , losses to relegated teams, irrelevance in Europe and bottom of the table sides having us defending for our lives at home.

    Welbeck, Young and Cleverley’s offences are minor compared to the “ILL Chosen One”.

  10. LoneStarRed7 says:

    The horse has long since left the barn. Our season is effectively over and the players know that. Curfews when we don’t play again for over a week help nothing. Let the players blow off some steam and have some fun. There is plenty of time to refocus and get back at it hard before the next match.

    As someone who has experience in the leading of men in campaigns, it is yet ANOTHER indication to me that Moyes is CLUELESS about how to motivate and read his men!

  11. Tommy says:

    It does not really shock me the 3 players involved, Ashley Young is a mercenery and the other 2 Welbeck and Cleverley are like sheep who follow one another. All 3 should be gutted about going out of the champions league and the last thing they should want to do is party. Shocking attitude but im affraid that is the modern game for you.

  12. LoneStarRed7 says:

    “Tommy says:

    It does not really shock me the 3 players involved, Ashley Young is a mercenery and the other 2 Welbeck and Cleverley are like sheep who follow one another. All 3 should be gutted about going out of the champions league and the last thing they should want to do is party. Shocking attitude but im affraid that is the modern game for you.”

    I say we tar and feather them, then draw and quarter them and and have each quarter taken to a different corner of the realm and bonfired. That’ll teach em!

  13. Dr. Mico says:

    Why fine them? They were just blowing off some steam. Particularly after crashing out of the champions league. It’s been a frustrating season for us fans as well as for the players. And it’s not as if they were playing during the week end.

  14. Paschal Agwunobi says:

    @lonestar red; spot on,mate


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