John Terry has today been stripped of the England captaincy for a second time following allegations of racism.
Terry allegedly called Anton Ferdinand a “black cunt” in Chelsea’s defeat against QPR. In last weekend’s Cup game between the two clubs the FA scrapped the traditional handshake ahead of kick-off after it became apparent that the QPR players would snub Terry in support of Ferdinand.
Ahead of Sunday’s game people have wondered whether Rio will also refuse to shake Terry’s hand, given that it is his brother who the Chelsea captain has supposedly racially abused.
“Rio’s been fighting the racism issue for years,” said Ferguson. “But he’s nothing to be ashamed of if he does decide to shake John Terry’s hand.”
It is hard to imagine how Rio could shake Terry’s hand following what he believes he has said to his brother.
Whilst it would be fairly sad, given Fabio Capello’s bizarre unwavering support for Terry, Rio may feel as though snubbing the handshake will mean he misses out on England’s squad for the Euros this summer. How can the two play alongside each other in the centre of defence if they can’t even shake each other’s hand? Rio hasn’t represented England at a major tournament since joining United and this will obviously be his last opportunity. He was due to captain England to the last World Cup but was injured in training ahead of the tournament.
However, what will it say about Rio’s integrity if he does choose to shake the hand of the man who his brother feels racially abused him?
In his autobiography, Rio revealed that he once overheard a well known England defender call his West Ham team mate a “black bastard” and a “coon”.
“If I name the player who came out with the most racist abuse I’ve ever heard on a football field, no one would believe it,” he said. “I guarantee you’d be astonished. Legally I couldn’t reveal the bloke’s identity because I couldn’t prove anything in a court of law, but I heard it loud and clear. It involved a black player in our side up against a very well-known opponent. Every time our player got the ball and was attacking him, the guy’s going, ‘Come on, you black bastard. Try to get past me, you coon,’ all sorts of racist stuff. I’m thinking, ‘Am I hearing this right? I can’t be hearing this right.’”
Whilst of course I’m not for one second suggesting this player is Terry, it is what Rio went on to say about this incident which is important.
“The player concerned comes over as quite a nice bloke. You wouldn’t imagine he could come out with such crap but he does. He probably reckons it’s all part of the game. Well not to me it isn’t. It’s bang out of order, our player should have reported him. Maybe I should have done something about it, but I was young at the time and didn’t want to get involved. I’m disappointed now with how I turned a blind eye to it. I’d like to think if it happened today I would make an example of him.”
Terry is innocent until proven guilty, however damning the evidence against him might be, but if Anton believes that he has been racially abused by this man, surely Rio can’t turned a blind eye to it?
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Jt racist Cnut forget shaking hands drop kick him in the head
I can only imagine how I would react in the same situation and at the very least I would NOT shake his dirty hand!
Feel really sorry for rio when you put it like that. Either way he can’t win! And it’s all because of that racist bastard! :/
Rio has no reason to be ashamed.
Rio can be guided by Anton in this regard. It remains Rio’s decision.
He will shake Terry’s hand, as this football match is not about Anton v Terry.
It’s about Manchester United getting 3 points at Stamford Bridge.
John Terry shouldn’t be England captain anyway, not because he’s racist but because he’s past it.
I can’t see Rio offering his hand to Terry, Not sure I’d want to shake the hand of a drug dealers son who despite being on a small fortune sold tours round Chelski, while getting his best mate’s Mrs pregnant…. Horrible bloke and not a suprise he’s (possibly (for the Lawyers)) a fully paid up member of the KKK.
I’ll start watching England again when Smalling, Jones, Wellbeck, Cleverley and the rest of our decent English lads become regulars instead of these past it big heads.
Will it just be rio who doesn’t shake his hand or will rio’s team mates follow suit to show solidarity? Personally I think cunt face terry will bottle it and won’t play.
I wouldn’t shake his hand anyway, regardless of his racist comments. The bloke is scum!
Wake up people…Terry hasnt been found guilty of anything (yet) and whatever was supposed to have been said NOBODY heard….so keep a sense of realism in this. Rio is taking himself too seriously and should be ashamed of himself. I’m all for defending family but only when there is something to defend against.
rio said in his autobiography that he had a team-mate who regularly racially abused players to try & put them off their game. he never named him & presumably never had a problem playing with him as that is all i have ever heard of this incident.
funny how he suddenly has a very public problem with racial abuse that he DIDN’T hear when it was “allegedly” perpetrated by the guy who usurped him as england capatain.
very “funny”.
Rio has represented England at the world cup in 2002, he opened the scoring against Denmark.
To be honest i dont see as a big deal at all, he should just shake his hand and although Terry is a vile chav Rio can be the bigger man. Lets not this be the focus of a massive game for us.
Scott, rio played at 02 wc in Japan/Korea. I think he was even in team of the tournament. We signed him after the tournament.
Smarty
Just read yuor post mate and 100% agree, take the Terry equation out of it, he trives of this kind of attention the scumbag. Its all about Manchester United on Sunday!
United United United
I personally wouldn’t shake the cunt’s hand anyways since I can’t stand the sight of him and he is one of those people I genuinely despise. However, it doesn’t mean anything in reality if Rio does shake his hand. It is, after all, a mere formality on the football pitch and one that has no significance outside the field of play. On the field, Rio is a professional representing the most cultured football club in the world. Therefore, he should show that professionalism and give a cold handshake to the cunt, much like Neville did to Viera after the tunnel bust up.
It’s says in the article Rio has never represented England at a major tournament. He has been to two world cups but missed the Euros because of drugs ban and failure to qualify.
“Rio has never represented England at a major tournament before”
Really?! That’s actually astounding. I count myself as an Ingerland fan as well, and I’d never even realised this was the case.
Ah, now I see OohAah’s post. Correct – he did play in 2002.
Thought it couldn’t be right.
Personally I would not shake his hand, much rather smack the fuck across the jaw and break him in two. However at the end of the day its just another football match that we need to win and my gut feeling tells me, we will
he played in 2002 world cup and was phenomenal, one of the main we reasons we bought him that summer I think.
Jiggy
Yeah, fuck Terry. He won’t get any emotion from any of our players during the pre-match handshake routine. He doesn’t exist anymore, other than as an opposition player. Internally, all our players will scorn him. They also scorn Blatter, and it has about the same relevance when 3 points are at stake.
Perhaps the handshake-dance will adopt a different step, to fluster the on-field cameraman.
John Terry, You CUNT.
Best thing we can to do Terry on Sunday is unleash Rooney and Welbeck at their best. Work him. Then bring on Hernandez for 1/2 hour just to compound the misery.
Leave him with twisted blood.
@mikekelly12 Lol, agreed
ex BBC
John Terry was informed of the decision to strip him of the England captaincy by Football Association chairman David Bernstein in a phonecall at 1000 GMT.
I would be disappointed if he did shake his hand.
Also I wonder if Evra should also think about not shaking the hand of a ‘possible’ racist, and also Smalling, Valencia, Wellbeck… fuck it! nobody shake his hand.
Think Rio should shake hands really. Show he’s a big man by not getting involved in this pettiness. It’s all good the incident has been highlighted and reported and Terry will be dealt with by the court. Time to move on ond focus on football.
Ferdinand every game for England in both the 2002 and 2006 World Cups.
Don’t know where you pulled that stat from Scott. Never played in the Euros perhaps?
Come to think of it I read that he is out with a knee injury for Sunday. Problem solved.
Sir Alex today said:
“I will have a word with Rio to see what his stance is [on shaking hands with Terry]. Rio has been fighting the racism issue for years – I’ve seen that throughout the time I’ve known the lad. But there is a moment where he maybe needs to rise above that. It’s nothing to be ashamed off if he does decide to shake John Terry’s hand. I’ve no issues with that at all. The following week we have the situation with Patrice Evra and Liverpool. Patrice has already shown the courage to fight it by complaining about it and therefore he has nothing to be ashamed of. I don’t think it’s a problem shaking hands.”
I THINK IT WAS MARTIN KEOWN! The CUNT
@Robbo
If Terry is out on Sun, it gives them real problems, esp if AVB still doesn’t think Cahill is ready. Back 4 could be Bosingwa-Luiz-Ivanovic-Bertrand.
Get-attable.
I guess that Joe the Lion-Hart will be captain.
In the words of Bart Simpson, “Damned if you do,damned if you don’t”
I think Rio is a bigger and better man than Terry could ever be.
Is this the same defender who elbowed Ruud Van Nisterooy by jumping up with his elbow raised & hitting RVN as he lands?
Of course he shouldn’t. We don’t know where that hand has been.
terry is a vile creature of animalitic proportians from his smelly wavy Dyke haircut to his fag fucking socks up to his hole. Rio and all the United players should get vaccinated for anti-cunt virus if they come in contact with this steaming pile of human shit.
rio was part of the england team in 1998, 2002 and 2006 world cups and played both in 2002 and 2006. he has never played in the european cup, though. he missed 2000 because he wasn’t selected, 2004. because of the drug case and 2008 because england failed to qualify.
I meant of course he shouldn’t shake his hand.
ex BBC
FA statement on John Terry’s removal as England captain: “… the Football Association confirm he will not captain the England team until the allegations against him are resolved. The FA Board expected the trial to be concluded prior to the European Championship.”
“Further to Wednesday’s confirmation that the trial will not take place until after the tournament, the Board has discussed the matter in detail and has collectively decided it is in the interests of all parties that John has the responsibilities of captaincy removed at this time…”
“This decision has been taken due to the higher profile nature of the England captaincy, on and off the pitch, and the additional demands and requirements expected of the captain leading into and during a tournament.”
“The FA Board can confirm that he has not been excluded from the squad and that Fabio Capello is free to select him for the Holland fixture on 29 February and the European Championship…”
“FA Chairman David Bernstein has spoken to both John Terry and Fabio Capello to explain the facts to them. Fabio Capello has not been involved in the FA Board discussions which reached this conclusion, but understands that the FA Board has authority to make this decision.”
“Fabio Capello will take the decision as to who will be made captain moving forward. This decision in no way infers any suggestion of guilt in relation to the charge made against John Terry. The FA will be not be making any further comment on this matter.”
gerrard or barry to be captain, gna be a really disapointing summer
Laughable stuff on here really.
Ferdinand himself has been in an innocent till proven guilty situation before. Or did I just imagine that lengthy drugs ban he received. Seems that plenty of you have judging by the portrayal of Rio’s virtue here.
It’s no secret he believed the punishment was unjust for simply missing the drug test. Mainly from the point of view that the penalties were the same as if he had actually failed the thing therefore going against the innocent till proven guilty mantra.
Given his brother himself has said he didn’t know anything about what Terry was alleged to have said till afterwards then Saint Rio would seem to be basing this on the same video footage everyone else has seen, which as we know is inconclusive when tied in with Terry’s explanation.
Unless he’s seen something else, which is doubtful, then he quite frankly has no choice other than to abide by the innocent till proven guilty course of action which he feels was denied him.
Personally, I expect Terry to play and I doubt Ferdinand will shake his hand if he does. But then I think Ferdinand is also the classless chav you all claim Terry to be.
Agree with everyone really, especially Twisted Fatboy’s point that on top of everything else – he’s shit! Let’s not let all this media attention on the controversial handshake conceal the fact.
Another thing, it’s funny how the likes of Sky report about the potential embarrassing scenario of a refused handshake as if they don’t want any controversy, when we all know creating controversy is what they’re all about.
The quotes from Rio’s book sound like shitty chest bastard.
@Gaz.
A perfect summary of a totally odious creature & piece of excretement mate.
Always been a poisonous little sod who’s got away with all sorts under the “England captain” umbrella.
Well I for one certainly do hope Rio blanks him, he’s got no obligation to shake his hand, all this its just a handshake, he doesn’t have to mean it, well utter bollocks, why should Rio do anything to avoid the shame the attention will bring to that little shit.
From the parental background of a drug dealer & a shoplifter though I guess he was never destined to be a remotely decent human being was he.
I just can’t see how now the trials been put back til after the euros conveniently he’s gonna get away with an FA charge all season then, for an offence in October? Now that really is criminal, a real stamp out racism message. With 14 odd games left he should be sitting them ALL out, still that would upset the England team, wouldn’t it.
Scott – you might be missing a trick here mate
It wasn’t just black QPR players who refused to acknowledge the Rent Boy, so we could just as easily ask ourselves today should Scholes be ashamed if he shakes his hand? I personally won’t think less of ANY United player who returns the gesture, as players who hate each other shake hands on the pitch all the time.
More to the point what about when Suarez arrives at OT? I do understand the focus on Rio but imo its a bit daft to seriously single him out. Where do you stop? Suarez isn’t exactly innocent until proven guilty he’s actually a FA certified cunt but will anybody in our squad refuse to shake his hand after he’s served his 8 game punishment in full?
I doubt we’ll refuse his hand at OT and I wouldn’t hold that against any of our lads either, so why should Rio be ashamed if he shakes CLLC’s thus far innocent hand? Hence me calling it daft.
Having said that, if Rio does refuse his hand I’d be the first to LAUGH MY ARSE OFF and absolutely LOVE IT, but theres no way I can think less of him if he doesn’t. As Alex said it wouldn’t take away from Rio’s charity work with poor kids of all races from Blighty to deepest darkest Africa.
Also lads, don’t forget Anton is his OWN man and he’s handled the entire situation admirably has he not? Right down to forcing the FA’s hand to skip the pleasantries because his dressing room and manager wasn’t having it. Hats off to him, he doesn’t strike me as needing his big bro to fight his battles. Never did.
Rio can do what he wants on Sunday, and even if they did shake hands did you see the photo of Tiger Woods shaking the hand of that non-descript irrelevant cunt? That fat cunt who carried Woods bags and deluded himself he was responsible for Tiger’s success? The cunt Woods made wealthy? That photo of them two shaking hands after the race incident was fucking priceless. Woods had a face like Shere Khan.
For what its worth I wouldn’t shake CLLC’s hand, no fucking way, and I’d love to see Rio fuck him off, but im not Rio and the choice is his. But “ashamed” is way too strong a word Scott, Rio has fuck all to be ashamed about Pal. Not when he can bury the Cunt under a new book next year. Do him in proper, like?
Besides, Terry ain’t the only racist Cunt in the league so is Rio to go on a personal crusade of not shaking the hands of alleged racists or what? He’s done enough to speak out thank you very much, more than most Cunts, and even his autobiography was another step in the right direction not that everybody noticed mind. Racism in modern football and England in general is centuries deep so if Rio is to feel ashamed we should ALL be fucking ASHAMED, not sitting back chatting BOLLOCKS about a man who actively fights Racism as pointed out by the Manager. Bear in mind I haven’t read all the comments so im not sure whose talking bollo but im sure somebody is.
Laters Rom.
Rio’s just posted this on his Facebook page… Guess he won’t be shaking hand CLLC Terry’s after all..
Rio Ferdinand
I don’t want to be England captain after the last episode- just want to concentrate on playing for United. If I make the squad then as ever I’ll be delighted.
Who’s the guy he reffered to in the book??? ….any ideas???
BREAKING NEWS ……Terry not playing against Utd …
ex BBC
John Terry will miss Chelsea’s game against Manchester United on Sunday with the knee problem that kept him out of Tuesday’s match at Swansea. Terry, stripped of the England captaincy for the second time in his career, has been unable to train this week
Shake his hand? He should nut the fucking horrible racist cunt.
ex BBC
Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas reacts to John Terry losing the England captaincy, saying: “The statement from the FA is pretty clear on what was their decision-making. I don’t agree with it. John will continue to be our captain.”
@KingEric ..Spot on mate
The bloke in question will probably be either Bowyer or that nasty cunt Jody Morris.
@King Eric ..Could be but he did add that the guy comes across as a nice bloke , that’s them two shot out the water but I’m sure them two scummy fucks do it as second nature ..Chavvy Wankers.
@KingEric
Kudos. …couldn’t have said it better myself. Despicable, horrible cunt.
@King Eric – ha, easy mate! And course he should, thats why that Scum would only say it on the pitch.
@ScholesForGoals – if that Twitter post is true then Rio’s spot on. He’s already done the business for a woeful England set up and a back stabbing English press. Im glad he’s mugging off the Captaincy – thats a bigger “fuck you” then not shaking some dirty cunt’s hand.
that should read *course he should IF he could escape a custodial like Eric Cantona. Fuck all chance of that happening fortunately for the Chelsea Captain.
@Paul Parker
“Im glad he’s mugging off the Captaincy – thats a bigger “fuck you” then not shaking some dirty cunt’s hand.”
I’m seriously impressed with the calibre of comments today… another well put comment mate.
I’ve no doubt JT said those words he’s a disgusting piece of shit,none of the lads should shake his hand,also don’t think he should play for England in the Euros one he’s old,slow and shit second going to add to the circus and tension.Think Terry should be shipped out of the country and go play in Russia perferably Siberia.
Probably won’t be any hand shaking
Why would Rio want to touch shit before the match? He is not mad, is he?
King Eric – Scott described the player in question as a “well known England defender” therefore it can’t be Bowyer or Morris.
LOL Terry dropped with a fake injury to prevent a PR disaster.
This saga is coming to an end….
Singh and Scholes – Cheers lads.
Fred – Aah. So he did. Didnt see that bit!! Cheers pal.
Ray Wilkins” England won’t win anything without Terry”
They haven’t won a fucking thing with him Wilko!
I really must be missing something with Terry on why he’s rated so highly,just think he has way to much baggage that outwieghs his ability.I bet if AVB was truthful he’d get rid tomorrow,Terry is a cancer
Willie.. LOL.
Rio is a United captain and an England captain. He might not have an armband at the moment, but he has the pride of that history.
He will shake the hand of a fellow professional offered before a game FULL STOP.
I expect nothing less from Rio and any United player.
These handshakes are a gesture about the players intent to contest the game as honestly as they can manage. Not a summation of a lifetimes successes and failures. We need to move past this petty discussion of perceived and actual offenses from the past.
After that, It appears that JT is injured. So this entire discussion is mute.
As to JT, he has now lost the England arm band and injuries and age taking its toll. One day soon, one can but hope he ceases to be a presence on the national stage and is rapidly consumed by the muck from which he arrose.
Even I’d be ashamed to shake that cunts hand
utd_fc think you worded that wrong mate,makes you sound like you’ve done bad shit and you’re worse than Terry
As this is now an intelectual enterprise since JcunT isn’t playing, I’d mostly agree with Fletch as the handshake gesture is more about the offer of a fair match, unfortunately there is some degree of respect for a fellow athelete involved too which was obviously disregarded by JcunT in his verbal abusing so there is some conflict there as well. I’d be of the opinion though that since it didnt directly affect our club that we would be better off not acknowledging the distraction involved and getting on with the normal shaking of hands.
That said Suarez is a different story as he directly disrespected our player and captain and I wouldn’t be surprised if the prematch ritual is again suspended for that match, though if the moron would have just had the sense to offer an apology to Pat we could all just move on.
Rip played for England at the 2006 World Cup, so that piece of trivia is incorrect….was friggin incredible in that tournament as well!
Looks like Terry’s injured though, so that’s one piece of media hype out of the way. For what its worth…..I agree with stripping him of the captaincy. But surely they should’ve suspended him from the squad as well? There’s no real difference between the captain and a non captain…..but what they’re saying is he’s not fit to wear the armband, but its okay to still play? What a joke!
And for those saying “innocent until proven gulity”….I agree. But this is a unique set of circumstances….because its not something unrelated to football. Its something that has a direct effect on the England squad, in terms of his team mates (one of which is Anton’s brother!)
Also….being realistic – England are better off without Terry just from a playing perspective. He’s slow and past it. Lescott, Smalling and Jagielka should all be ahead of him – maybe even Cahill depending on his form over the next few months.
Neither Rio or Terry deserve a place in the England first XI tbh….one of them should go as part of the squad though, as an experienced back up. And it certainly shouldn’t be “Bionic Man”….
Willie – Hello mate. Is that what Butch said? Fucking monotone cunt. Like you say what the fuck have they won WITH him? Most over rated defender about who has always had likes of Rio, Carvalho next to him covering his defiencies. Yes he gets his head to balls and tries to capture the “Bulldog” spirit but overall he is shit. What is this love affair with Wilkins and the Rentboys especially after they fucked him off?
He might not have to make the choice, I heard Terry is out of the game due to a knee injury. Villas Boas Sky interview today, although could be mind games.
Shake his hand Rio but tell him he’s a cunt as you’re doing it.
Willie @ 16:16
Nice one mate.
marcce fuck off
terry is a poisonous ratbag how did he ever get 2 be england captain a 2nd time
disgrace what he did 2 bridge shit always seem to stick to this ratbag
always seems forgotten his crafty spit at tevez in the ecf that penalty miss was karma u rentboy twat
shake his fucking neck not his hand
@wayne na mann. i wouldnt wanna shake that slimy gits hand. i’d be ashamed to cus of the things he’s done.
King Eric – He said it on talksport today. Stupid comment from Wilko.
Cheers James!
Rio Ferdinand says:
“No. I’ve been England captain before for a brief period. It was taken away from me so I just want to concentrate on playing for Manchester United, to be honest with you. I’m happy to be playing good football for Manchester United.”
“If I’m selected for the England squad, then as usual I’ll be delighted. Playing for your country, being selected for your country, is a great achievement. I’ll always feel privileged to be selected, so if that comes around again, I’ll happily meet up and give 100% as usual.”
it says “since joining United” guys, so the ’02 tournament was just before right? spot on scott we’ll see how our ferdy acts now!