(although my glasses comment was intended to evoke laughter…)

Like I said about O’Shea earlier, at left back, I wouldn’t be complaining, but right back is a completely different kettle of fish.

“If Simpson had played aswell in his first game, I would have done the same…but he didn’t” – so you think Rafael’s performance against Peterborough in a friendly was better than Simpson’s performance against Wigan in the league? Honestly? Lol well, I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree on most things, because we quite clearly are wearing ‘different glasses’.

Fergie sent Rossi on loan and he never played for us again, whilst we were struggling for forwards (and has since gone on to prove himself as a top scorer in La Liga). I support Ferguson in whatever he does, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t recognise he sometimes makes mistakes. We won’t know if loaning out Simpson is a mistake or not yet… but I imagine it was a decision borne out of United trying to make nice after pinching their goalkeeping coach a fortnight after he’d signed for them, not a decision made because it was ideal for the club or player.

If i am not allowed to express my views in this blog, then maybe im in the wrong place . I actually enjoyed witnessing our debate, rather than seeing at it with disgust.

At this point, i normally would have made a comeback to your last post (possibly by sending positive quotes towards o’shea), but i feel that you are not rather appreciative of my comments.

The fact that fergie sent him on loan, means that it was the right decision, as we cant disobey the man him self.

Moreover, i feel you need to give oshea more credit than he deserves. He may not be techincally the most gifted player…but for anyone to sink the vermin scousers in the 91st minute – has to be a legend in my books.

If you want to talk about debut’s though, let’s look at Simpson’s, which undoubtedly was better than the young Brazilian’s, to the point I find it odd you’d even bring up Danny’s debut to make your argument.

The Independent: “Danny Simpson, making his debut as O’Shea’s replacement, crossed perfectly from the right to set up a rare headed goal by Rooney.”

ManUtd.com: “A patched-up Reds defence saw Gerard Pique and Danny Simpson included alongside Rio Ferdinand and Patrice Evra, and the two youngster turned in outstanding performances.”

The Guardian: “Then the England striker added a fourth – his second in as many games after failing to score in the first two months of the season – with a determined header after Danny Simpson supplied another excellent cross from the right.”

So how do we know if the players are going to come good or not? By palming them off on loan with second rate clubs? The only way we can find out if they’re good enough for United is if we play them for United. If it goes horribly wrong and he shows he not good enough, then we sell him and move on. But we’re only wasting our time and his by sending him out on loan again. It gets beyond a joke when a player has spent four years out on loan, he’s not a kid anymore.

He’ll be Rooney’s age now by the time he’s given a chance to play for United’s first team. I can’t see a good reason for that, JoS isn’t good enough.

At no point did I see Neville and Brown should be benched so Simpson can play as much as he likes. If you read the article, I simply pointed to the likelihood of Vidic and Neville being injured at the same time. But in case of full fitness, for trips up to Sunderland and the like, throw in Simpson instead of Neville.

You’re assuming Simpson will get played at Blackburn. Ince has got money to spend and Simpson could just there to make up numbers because of us pinching Steele. Just look at that lad Rossi!

Secondly, ‘the argument’ was not in reference to your article, but in reference to OUR argument, in that Oshea should be given the responsiblity not Simpson, as RB cover.

Thridly, as for Simpsons opportunity, what do you expect…you cant expect players like neville and brown (who get paid millions) to be put on the bench while danny plays in the games. Thats why he’s being loaned, to gain fist team xp, (and to catch the eyes of others, so his value increases for when/if they sell him). If he’s successful under Ince, then we give him the opportunity nxt season …if not, then its more loans, until someone snaps him up (like eagles story). Harsh but ture.

Fourthly, in response to your Neville quote, i did not answer it as i felt my comeback answer would be rather obvious and self-explanatory. People probably did say the same to neville, as everyone always rise eyebrows to all new young players, but gary neville is only part of a small handful of success stories from the youth system. Yes – i agree in that neville, beckham, scholes, giggs etc, all came out good, but in the era we are in, that generation of breeding players has become scarce and in reality United will now end up buying (majority) thier players instead of breeding.

FINALLY, lets look at this through danny’s eyes. Would he rather be bench warming (if even that) at utd, or would he rather get a run of first team games at bburn. When u look at it like that, its obvious…

Secondly, ‘the argument’ was not in reference to your article, but in reference to OUR argument, in that Oshea should be given the responsiblity not Simpson, as RB cover.

Thirdly, in response to your Neville quote, i did not answer it as i felt my comeback answer would be rather obvious and self-explanatory. People probably did say the same to neville, as everyone always rise eyebrows to all new young players, but gary neville is only part of a small handful of success stories from the youth system. Yes – i agree in that neville, beckham, scholes, giggs etc, all came out good, but in the era we are in, that generation of breeding players has become scarce and in reality United will now end up buying thier players instead of breeding.

So Shin, if not now, when should Simpson be given the opportunity? How many times should be sent out on loan before we deem him good enough? You’re ’simply’ saying he needs to be loaned for experience… which he’s been doing for the past THREE years. Suddenly, with four years of loaned out experience, he’ll be good enough to try out? Or should we make it five years? Six years?

You still haven’t responded to what I said about Gary Neville. Let’s not forget that Simpson is a year older than Gary was when he was brought in to the first team.

It’s not absurd to want to try someone new over having JoS as a RIGHT back. If it was the left back position up for grabs, then I’d agree, but JoS gets dicked on good and proper at right back, and we all know that. I’d much rather see Simpson given his chance to prove himself over this season, than watch JoS do what we already know he does.

scott – i think what the others are getting at (albeit in a confused manner) is that evans is a centre half and that would therefore allow wes to go right back, where he was our most consitent last season. mickey can play either full back (left rather than right though) or centre half. i do agree with comments about paddy, but he did score a last minute winner, against the vermin, in front of the kop. so for that reason, no one should ever bad mouth him.

i still think we should’ve kept hold of simpson.

we are looking very short of numbers at the mo though. perfect timing!! let the kids have a go. it’s worked before!

All im ’simply’ saying is that Simpson should go on loan to get experience, for when he eventually may join the first team in the future, in which Oshea is a safe emergency cover in RB…whereas your simply exploding the argument into something that its not.

“Thank god the people who thought like you didn’t get their way, otherwise players like webber, bardsley, spector and eagles would still be in the team”