“Did you cheer, did you cheer, did you cheer when Beckham scored?” we would sing to opposition fans following David Beckham’s transformation from villain to hero in the eyes of England fans. After his sending off in the World Cup 1998 he was given an awful time in this country, with effigies of him being hung in London, his face at the centre of cut out dart boards in the tabloids and vile abuse from the stands.
Three years later, he scored a cracking injury time freekick against Greece which put England in to the next World Cup, much to the delight of the England faithful. The people who had tried to make his life a misery were now besotted with him, singing his name and proudly calling him their captain. Beckham is just one of many reds to be singled out by the Ingerlernd massive.
“Phil and I went straight out to have a look at the Wembley pitch and were greeted by a chorus of ‘Stand Up If You Hate Man U’,” said Gary Neville in 1998. “We’ve had this abuse before playing for England, but over the last year it’s got worse.”
Cristiano Ronaldo was one of five Portuguese players complaining to the referee in the 2006 World Cup just before Wayne Rooney was sent off. If Ronaldo was stood accused of stamping on Frank Lampard’s bollocks the country would have strung Rooney up if he didn’t join his England teammates in protest and instead opted to support his United pal. That didn’t matter to England fans though. The game finished 0-0 and three of the four England penalty takers missed, yet Ronaldo was the one to blame for their exit, according to the papers and the fans. His house was vandalised, his sister was harassed and it was his face now at the centre of the cut out dart board in the tabloids.
United players have received more England caps than players from any other club. David Beckham, Sir Bobby Charlton and Bryan Robson all feature in the top ten for England appearances and they all have played in three World Cups. Charlton is the all-time highest goalscorer and Wayne Rooney is in the top ten. Then you look at some of the players who have come through our youth system, like Gary Neville who has 85 caps, the most capped right back, Paul Scholes with 66, Phil Neville with 59, Nicky Butt with 39, Roger Byrne with 33, Wes Brown with 23, Tommy Taylor with 19 (scoring 16 goals) and Duncan Edwards with 18 (by the time he was 21), to name a few. Then we have the young ‘uns who are just starting their England careers, like Danny Welbeck with 4 and Tom Cleverley who has yet to make his debut, having been called up to the squad several times but then being ruled out through injury.
You would think with the contribution our club has made to the national team, you might get a bit of appreciation from England fans, but clearly that is too much to ask. It’s not just the fans that are ungrateful but the FA too.
“The FA may realise who has produced more players for their country than any club in the world,” Ferguson said at the start of this season after eight United players were called up to the England squad. “Maybe they will get some joy from it and realise how important we are to England instead of treating us like shit.”
Most recently, Rooney was banned for two games for breaking Law 12 which relates to “using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language”. Every single week in every single game players are guilty of breaking Law 12, telling the ref to “fuck off” or directing abusive language at their opponents, yet none of these are even shown a yellow card, let alone sent off, or banned for two games. Remember when Gerrard stuck two fingers up at Andre Marriner and told him to “fuck off” after he was booked for a scissor tackle from behind and received no punishment? Apparently it’s alright to tell the ref to “fuck off”, in full view of the cameras, clear for everyone to see what you said but it’s not OK to say “fuck off” to no one in full view of the cameras. Not if you’re a United player anyway.
Remember when Rio Ferdinand got banned for eight months and fined £50,000 for missing a drugs test in the same year Manchester City’s Christian Negouai was fined £2,000 and received no ban for missing a drugs test? It was later revealed that 240 drugs tests were “abandoned” between 2007 and 2010 yet none of these resulted in bans.
Remember when Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney were sent off in the pre-season Amsterdam Tournament and the FA banned them for three Premier League games as a result? Steven Gerrard and Neil Mellor were sent off for Liverpool in the same tournament three years earlier and received no punishment from the FA. Then in 2010 Patrick Vieira was shown a straight red card in a pre-season friendly for City and also received no punishment. “If a player gets a red card in a friendly he gets a ban for his next friendly, not for competitive matches,” said a spokesperson for the FA.
It’s one rule for United and a different rule for everyone else when it comes to the FA dishing out punishments.
“I think sometimes there is an unfair focus on United on disciplinary issues,” Ferguson said last summer. “It will always be there and I think we know that. They’ve always found a way to treat us differently. It has been happening for a while now and they always seem to find a way to do us when, with others, it’s seemingly forgotten.”
It’s not just the fans and the FA though, it is the players who you are supposed to support, yet when they come to Old Trafford with their clubs get loads of stick from our fans. I’ve never understood the ability of an England fan to hate a player on a weekly basis, only to cheer their goals and chant their names when they pull on that white jersey. John Terry, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole, Glen Johnson, Stuart Downing, Gareth Barry etc. How do you get enthusiastic about these players? As an England fan, do you really feel as though this lot represent you? You’re happy to see Terry put in a crunching challenge or Lampard score a deflected goal?
Between the fans, the FA and the players, it is easy to feel resentment towards England, or at the least, a lack of interest or disconnection. Whilst some United fans might like to shun England because they think that some “top red” status comes with it, it comes naturally to plenty of reds to be apathetic towards the national team. When you have a team like United to support, it’s easy to find your football saturation with them alone. Who needs to get all worked up about the prospects of England getting knocked out again in the quarter-finals when you watch United players never give in and lift trophies?
“‘He plays on the left, he plays on the right, that boy Ronaldo makes England look shite’,” Ian Brown said in 2009 when asked about his favourite United chant. “That’s what I love about United: we’re the Republic of Mancunia, no one gives a fuck about England. My next favourite would be ‘You can stick yer fucking England up yer arse”, which we sing to Chelsea and the London clubs. I love that.”
The Euros are upon us though and an International tournament is always a nice way to pass the time until you can get your fix from watching United at 2am when they play some dross team from the USA in the pre-season. United fans who do get a kick out of England will be relieved that at least Terry won’t be donning the captain’s armband as he beats his shirtless chest following a spirited England draw but in terms of excitement and hype, people have finally seemingly caught on to the fact that the national team just isn’t that good and doesn’t really stand much of a chance.
A manager that nobody really wanted, no permanent captain and no performances to suggest England have what it takes to match the better teams in Europe, yet we have a few United players in the squad. Wayne Rooney, Ashley Young, Phil Jones and Danny Welbeck are all going to Euro 2012.
Does this change things? After spending all season calling Terry all the names under the sun following the allegations of racism, will you cheer when he scores if it’s Young who delivers the corner? Will you be happy to see Lampard bury a penalty if it’s Welbeck that’s won it? Will you get emotional when you see captain Steven Gerrard singing the national anthem? Will it make you proud to see the DJ battering scouse twat donning the armband of your country’s team?
Terry has been charged after seemingly racially abusing Anton Ferdinand and has a court case to attend after the international tournament. Instead of leave him out of the team, Roy Hodgson has gone with Terry, and bizarrely claimed that his contribution to Chelsea’s place in the Champions League final helped sway his decision, despite the fact Terry’s idiocy at the Nou Camp very nearly cost Chelsea their place.
“I selected John Terry for footballing reasons and I left out Rio Ferdinand for footballing reasons,” said Hodgson. “I think Terry’s played well, I think he played an important part in Chelsea’s FA Cup final victory, an important part in their reaching the Champions League final and so therefore I selected him because I think he’s the man for job. I’m hoping and believing that he will help us win matches.”
In big games this season, Terry has made dreadful, costly mistakes, namely against Arsenal, Liverpool and Barcelona, as Chelsea finished a massive 25 points behind United. In contrast, Rio has been Mr Reliable and has put his injury worries behind him, playing 38 games in all competitions. How can Hodgson seriously expect us to believe “footballing reasons” have kept Rio out? Sol Campbell doesn’t buy it and thinks the issue between Terry and Anton is the reason behind Rio’s omission.
“I think it did play a small, or a big part in it,” he said, “because, you know, you’re away for four to six weeks together, Hodgson’s probably saying: ‘Maybe something might happen at the camp. Who knows? But you can’t say [for] football reasons, Rio Ferdinand shouldn’t be going. Because he’s experienced, he knows how to play football, an excellent defender, he’s done fantastic for his club and country, especially in the last, say three months. I can’t believe it. He’s played the last 10, 12 games for Manchester United, he’s played excellent, he’s fit as a fiddle. You need the most experienced players at the tournament. He knows his way around all these tournaments. You need people like that. You need characters like that. When it comes to those tough games, and you need that experience, you’re not going to have it.”
It’s not just Rio who England are taking the piss out of either. The manager thinks Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Gareth Barry, Scott Parker and Jordan Henderson are all more worthy of a place in his team than Michael Carrick. Our midfielder asked not to be considered if he was just going to be a “bit part” player. Clearly Hodgson doesn’t see Carrick as anything better than a bit part player then. Is this a manager you can have any time for? What an utterly unfathomable decision.
From a United perspective, of course I’ll be happier to see the likes of Rio and Carrick well rested for the start of our season, but I’m disappointed on their behalf, given they are more deserving of a place in the team than plenty of the players selected. It’s frustrating to see our players under appreciated.
However, win, lose or draw, England’s performances in the Euros matter little to me. I can’t pretend I won’t be happy if Terry slips and England’s opponents score. I can’t pretend I won’t laugh if Lampard misses a penalty. It would be nice to get behind the national team and I have no issues with people that do, it’s just not for me.
I’ll just be hoping the United lads manage to do themselves justice, come home injury free and are hungry as ever to lift the trophy that really matters next May.
I’ll leave you with a few words from Scholes on his decision to retire from the national team: “I like being at home as well there was an awful lot of time away from home and my family and for me there’s nowhere better than Manchester.” Hear, hear.
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This is an edited article of one which written by Scott and appeared in this month’s Red News.
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Each to their own I suppose. Yes the setup is massively flawed, and most of the fans are dicks, but I support England.
Sorry!
Of course i wouldn’t cheer Terry if he scores from Young cross.
I would have been excited only if Scholesy had come out of retirement.
Good post, somewhat of a recap of the recent events. Carrick in the standby list is a disgrace and if you have some share of self-pride and dignity you would have done the same.
It is always a matter of a TEAM not single players. I’m afraid Hodgson thought Parker with his captain’s qualities (??) is more suited to a role alongside “England’s stars” in Lampard and Gerrard.
But who cares.
So do i
England?
May I.
There is only one team in the world I support.
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Great article.. But each to his own..
I used to get behind england up untill the 2006 world cup, but the constant hate they show toward us is borderline sick.
I don’t mind our players wanting to play for their national team and I’m quite happy with young welbeck and jones playing in this tournament for different reasons the two young guns for experience and ash for confidence.. Just hope they come back healthy and it wouldn’t be bad if any of them come back as the scape goat either:) its been a while since we’ve had a us against them feeling which usually galvanises the team to play with determination and without fear.
I think the fact that so many players will have a good rest this off season such as vidic, carrick, rio, evans, tony V,hernandez, and hopefully clevs and smalling if they don’t get picked for that stupid olympic squad will prove to be a big positive for the start of next season.. I’ll be backing the germans to usurp the spanish, sick to death of them and ze germans are footballs only hope..
I can’t wait for august already *sigh*
Hogdson is getting orders from some LFC supporter or he has the mental weakness to try and appease their fans/players again.
Glen Johnson over Micah Richards?
Gerrard in the squad, let alone, Captain?
Downing? Who the fuck is downing?
Henderson as backup midfielder?
And finally, the clown that is Andy Carrol.
Who the hell can support that England, not even LFC fans would want to see those guys in a white shirt if they want England to do well..
Whats wrong with Lampard? Even Fergie has admitted what an incredible player he is. Has he done something horrible that Ive missed?
Liverpool have announced that Ken Dodd will be the next manager,because they won’t have to change the initials on his coat and they won’t be laughed at as much.
An interesting article.
I used to be quite patriotic to be honest. But then when I went out in The Masons Arms in Solihull to support England on a few occasions I was met by “What the fcuks he doing here” and “The let anyone in here now.”
I’m not accepted as an England fan in this country, the country I am born in because I am of Indian descent.
I see when England are in a major tournament as just an excuse to hate anything and everything that isn’t English.
I mean what do England fans do when they are knocked out of a major tournament?
Vandalise a few BMWs? Put a brick trough a corner shop window? Sing a few “We hate Pakis” songs? Restore a bit of National Pride?!
Add that to this article and my point of view has been fcuk England and fcuk their knuckle dragging fans. I couldn’t care less.
Personally I hope England get smashed.
Michael Owen on Twitter this morning….
“The Manager informed me after our testimonial match on Tuesday that the club would not be offering me a new contract.”
“I have loved every minute of the 3 years I have spent at such a fantastic club.”
“I would like to thank the players, staff and fans for their support and wish them well for the future.”
“I now plan to have a short holiday during which I will contemplate my next move.”
Tara Michael Owen.
Just announced on Twitter that he’s not been offered a new contract.
So, there’s a tiny bit of the wage bill trimmed. Good start!
Good one Dazbomber.
Scott the Red
You are a truly exceptional journalist. This is an excellent article. Bravo!
@AlphaRS
If you’ve suffered those experiences, you are of course entitled to desert England. I’d like to think that those fuck-knuckles you’ve encountered are part of a dying breed.
I’d also like to say that you can distinguish between the players and the fans with regard to such issues, but sadly it seems with the likes of John Terry in the side, you can’t.
Here in London, I support England alongside plenty of Asian mates and they don’t have to put up with any of that shit, but I guess that’s an advantage of living in the big smoke.
Owen for Wolves!
4-3 mate. Thank you, Michael – it was a pleasure, and good luck for your future!
Great post STR, England ahould be kissing Manchester United’s feet for the quality players to grace their squad,
Also Tevez is a cunt
http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/szvV0WWeMyqxOI7nF8dg6uA/view.m?id=15&gid=football/2012/may/17/carlos-tevez-ferguson-president-england&cat=sport
Okay the only other team I support is Lebanon
But thats because it’s affiliated to Cedars
1. 4-3 winner vs City
2. Equaliser in CC final v Villa (before doing his hammy 5 mins later – lol)
3. A crucial equalising header away at Bolton
Those were his top 3 in terms of importance I guess. There was also his hattrick away at Wolfsburg (then German champs).
Thank you Michael Owen! Good luck and good health!
If
Owen had been fit United would have won a lot more
I’ll give him that – alas injuries have destroyed his career since 06
Good luck to him.
Lebanon for world domination, WC 2014 here we come……Everything about our set up is legit, 100% legal I tell ya……..
The cedars rock my world……. Na they do not actually, only United do
Owen is the right choice for LFC Manager. The right choice for Andy Carroll anyway, who could do with a good grooming, never mind some improvement on the paddock.
So we say goodbye to Owen, but he will be remembered for that 95th minute goal against the bitters to seal a magnificent win on that day.
As for england, Rio not being in the list is certainly related to the racism row between anton and terry, but it will be a good thing for him I think, to have some good rest and be ready to battle next season. Lets hope the Utd players going do not pick any injury
I for one am glad that there’s a chance the famous number 7 will go to a deserving star player once again. Maybe Valencia? Although it’s probably going to Gaitan if we sign him. (or even Kagawa? – please no)
Good luck to Owen, will miss the bugger……..All his play time had me on the edge of my seat
Michael Owen – set to leave United. Via Twitter.
Morning rom
Owen and berba&macheda out Robert Lewandowski in?
Lewandowski said. “I do not know what will happen in two months.”I’ve also thought, ‘What more can I accomplish with Dortmund?’ Difficult.”
No shit??
Well, if Owen and Berbatov are out, we are left with 3 main strikers- Little Pea, Rooney and Welbeck. Does that mean SAF is gonna dive and search for one more striker? or he is going to spend big this summer for new signings.
Owen’s career with United has come to an end. I wish him all the best and thanks for his contribution.
Neymar! Neymar! Neymar!
So says football manager 2012 the MG version
Morning Cedars – I can’ wait till Lebanon FC appoint us as managers
2014 WC here we come!
MG
We are built to conquer………If we no like you we kill you
Great read…. i think i share exactly the same feelings towards ingurland
@iced earth: apparently, that was in response to questions about bayern’s interest in him…
The real question about strikers is not “Who’s the 4th striker?”, because you have Will Keane. No, the real question is “Who’s gonna play the Rooney role when he’s injured/suspended?”
Cedars
Pardon his killing comment he’s missing his bar at the beach watching the girls go by. Naturally it’s taking time to align himself back home.
WC winners 2014
MG and Cedars victory speech at the WC
We…
Cut off due to contractual advertisement break
@Jeet
Suspended? Carry on like he has this season, and he’ll never need to worry about a suspension again.
Fuck England, I don’t think there has ever been ANYTHING positive to come out of England as far as United are concerned. Good article Scott.
Owen gone….let the clearout begin. Not sure I like these Nani rumours though!
MG
You and I announcing? RUN, RUN I tell ya
@kanchelskis: Hope so too, mate…though you never know with the ABU FA…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145678/Robin-van-Persie-Arsenal-talks-deadlock.html
arsenal offred him £130 000 per week shitty +£250.000 per week!!!
@Jeet
Haha, true. He’d better not pick his nose in the tunnel, or you never know what might happen…
I think Tea Leoni is sexy
What about the lads OGS recommended on his squad, i know one was Josh Gatt, cant remember the other one
Michael Owen,set to leave United. Via Twitter.
Yes, thank you enzophonics.
Sad news about Owen leaving Utd.
Details here
http://oldtraffordfaithful.com/michael-owen-will-not-be-offered-a-new-contract-by-utd/
Berbatov to stay at United, via his love for the Club and his proven talent.
I might have to eat my words, but cannot see Eng do anything against Germany, France, netherlands or Spain. Their midfields are far superior, I can even see Portugal,as better. Sjould be a terrible summer for England and longnvacation for our boys.
off topic
according to reports in italy Fabio Capello is the favorite to be chelsea next boss
Great article Scott – sums up my own feelings very well.
Didn’t Capello resign because he wasn’t allowed to select Terry as captain?
If he’s not clean enough to captain England, how is he clean enough to represent England?
The FA are drawing their own fine line right through the centre of their own double-standards.
On Michael Owen. Great honest twitter activity from him. Modest way of expressing himself and a great awareness of what is going about his career as an active footballer. Pretty good for a former scouser, no ?
Unlucky but he speaks all the right things. Sometimes when you hear a person speak right things you might get irritated because people love bad boys. In Owen it isn’t the case.
@Corea
His finest twitter hour was during the CC final this year, when he slagged of Dalglish for wearing his tramp jacket! Fuckin golden!
WillieRedNut set to rule the world:Via my own brilliance!
The world set to succeed gloriously: via brilliant Red leadership of the nutty kind!
Never really took to Owen. Nowt against the man personally. Thanks for your efforts though! Like to see the Berb stay now. Highly doubtful, but you never know.
Good luck Michael, you will always be remembered for that winner against the bitters
As for England, it’s like they are trying to put me off supporting them
Im as patriotic as the next man but its nigh on impossible getting behind the likes of Terry, Gerrard, Carroll, Downing, Milner, Barry, Johnson, Cahill, Parker and Walcott
Did I miss anyone out?
When pressed about a move to the Bernabeu, Toure remained coy on the talk but did not rule it out.”I can not say anything about the rumours,” Toure told RAC1. “We will have to wait and see what happens. Mourinho has not called me.”
if y toure leave shitty will struggle to finish in top 4
Sir Alex told ManUtd.com: “It is a pleasure to have had Michael at Manchester United. Michael is a consummate professional and was an influential figure in our dressing room. Unfortunately he had no luck with his injury this season.”Michael’s record of goals per game is exceptional and we wish him all the best for the future.
I support England. Because I’m English.
Never really understood the logic of English United fans hating England.
Nothing Ian Brown, STR or anyone on here says can ever change that so please bother.
I heard all the arguments. United will always come first by a long way, but every second summer I’m an England fan.
I’ll be supporting the Germans this summer. Financial motives though…..
*please don’t bother*
All the best to Mickey Owen. So unlucky with injuries and its now time for both parties to move on. I hope that if Berba leaves(and it looks likely) the Boss will go in and try sign a TOP TOP striker!!! Looking forward to the next couple months. Interesting and exciting times ahead for us. Let’s see what happens.
#7 shirt is free now
valencia nani or kagawa??
@iced earth
I reckon Nani. During 10/11, he was our most important player. Injuries hampered him last season, but if he can come back firing on all cylinders, he’ll be up there again as one of our most influential players. He’s currently got 17, which seems like a ‘gateway’ to 7, doesn’t it?
Plus I think the iconic shirts fit better with flair players who can bring that bit of magic. I know many prefer Valencia, but he strikes me as the type who would be happy with a squad number shirt rather than a first XI one.
some Q3 stats out:
March 2011; cash balance: £113m.
March 2012; cash balance: £25m
Debt down to £423m from £484m
Normal for Q3 cash to be low, but thats a big difference of a year. Again, ton of money spent on debt reduction instead of wages/players, and profits for Q4 will be hit big time due to CL exits so don’t expect amazing figures to recover the dreary Q3 ones. Money to buy one big name in summer? maybe, money to pay their wages? fat chance.
Good luck supporting england then. Can’t wait to see ukraine and sweden pass them into the next millennium. They’d fortunate to make it out of the group stage. England, the whole team with the phobia of possession keeping. Milner, lampard and steve GBH will surely fix that.
kanchelskis
agree with you mate
a ‘gateway’ to 7 !
In a nani-second he will fill that shirt with flair and fortune. An excellent choice!
Fucking Glazers have taken over 70m pounds out of the club in the last 9 months.
These bastards should fuck off!
I’m getting behind England for Euros, I feel Hodgson was the right choice and will steer the squad into the right direction, that being said, I still think Terry is a cunt, no love lost for Gerrard, fuck Fat Frank, piss off Stewart Downing who can’t play a cross to save his life, and most of all fuck Jolen Lescott…..GGMU
What about Ashley Young for #7?? And Scholes can get back his #18 shirt for next season…
had to post this before reading the main post on
Duncan Edwards, 18 and 21 caps. what a player he must have been
I’ll take the number 7 shirt.
Brigadier19 – cover your eyes.
The picture used in Nike’s “Made of Manchester” theme stressing the city’s industrial heritage for advertising of Manchester United’s new kit was actually a picture of Oldham.
Alright, you can open them now.
“Thing is, I don’t even like John Terry, if he was drowning I’d throw him a cinder block”
Fucking smalltime little Ingerlunders. Hope they go out in group stages.
United > Ingerlund.
I’ll wear the 7 shirt, failing that we can always get Ronaldo back
(it’s a joke by the way – do’t anyone get serious the wink wink should have given it away
)
I second King Eric – because it’s easier to stand by when he full throttles those that will disagree
Manchester United
england
Zelh- yet some people like them , think there doing a good job
Not from England obviously but if I was, there’s no way I’d support this mob. I respect those United fans that will, but imo the England team has been nothing but a sourse of frustration, anger and pathetic abuse for our lads and they deserve better. Like Scott said, Scholes summed it up perfectly.
As for Owen, if Berba’s going to leave, then I don’t think it would have been right for Owen to stay. Sounds a bit weird since we will be down to 3 strikers, but that’s my take on it. Thanks for the memories Michael. You won us the best game in Premier League history and that will never change.
Alright MG! Keep your shirt on!
Laters RoM.
” You’re only as good as your last envelope. “
Costas hi mate haven’t been ducking you,had to stay away from all news sources for a few days way we lost the title got to me.Still think if the QPR bench hadn’t started celebrating Utd would have won,doesn’t matter now its over so what do you want from Canada
I’m English and don’t want them to do anything till JT is out of the picture its a fucking disgrace he’s wearing a England shirt
Looking at the Euro squad can’t remember a weaker one,won’t even get out the group,what a pile of shit
Excellent article Scott.
Just one small point. Tommy Taylor didn’t come through United’s youth team. He was bought from Barnsley for £29999 ‘cos Sir Matt didn’t want him saddled with the tag of being a £30K footballer.
Actually, does anyone seriously give a toss about England?
I also find it amazing that Glen Johnson – the 1st player Mourinho got rid off at Chavski -could be chosen and not Micah Richards from Stockport City.
And Gareth Barry !!!!! Oh come on. I bet Sir Bobby could still outsprint that talentless charmless never-was with a sack of coal on his back.
Wolves
England. 
How come no one offered Mick McCarthy the England job?
I’ve got me shirt on Willie
Right off to school for part afternoon shift – till later fellow Manchester united brothers and sisters and aliens if their any out there.
The truth shall be known
Good luck to Michael Owen. he gave us a memory we will never forget scoring the injury time winner against the bitters. He surely was a gamble worth taking! if only he was not injury prone!
Michael Owen: “I’m only 32 and obviously looking at the likes of Scholes and Giggs, they give you motivation and confidence to play on. They are playing into their mid to late thirties. I still feel reasonably young when I wake up. My body feels good, even though I’ve had a few injuries. At 32 I definitely owe it to myself to have another two or three years and hopefully play a bit more for somebody else.”
Good luck and good health Michael Owen!
ps Harry might have a dip, unless city get him first. I think Michael would turn them down.
@wayne
Hi mate. Ha, don’t worry. Never though you were ducking me. I wish I was wrong about this. And in a way I was. Because as long as QPR had something to play for, City were nowhere near that title. As fate would have it, the Bolton game started 4 minutes earlier in the 2nd half and it ended sooner. City made sure the QPR players knew about the result and the rest is history (or a black mark in history if you prefer). Anyway, been busy with my final college assignments so I still haven’t thought about what you can send. I’ll get back to you.
Costas ok mate good luck with your finals,when you’ve decided I’ll give you my email to get your address
Let me start by saying I’m very proud to be English. Wouldn’t swap being English for any other nationality. Perhaps it’s because I spent a chunk of my childhood away in the United States of Idiocy/Racism/Obesity, and was occassionally targeted for being English. However, just because I’m English and proud doesn’t mean I’ll be supporting England at the Euros. I make a distinction between England the country and England the football team. The FA are a fucking joke. How many times have they fucked over United, Scott mentions it a few times in this article, but countless other occassions as well. 99 Fa Cup? They are a fucking disgrace. Let’s have a racist, theiving, corrupt, cowardly, scum of the earth, thinks he shows bravado but makes himself look a tit, crying lesbian haircutted CUNT as captain. Oh wait, let’s not make him captain, but we’ll select him anyway. Also let’s not select the best English centre back of his generation (Rio) because this vile specimen of humanity is a “lionhearted, would go to afghanistan anyday except I prefer picking up 100,000+ a week, dad of the year, born leader”. I fucking hate the FA and the English national team. It’s a southern cult. You go to Wembley and it’s full of Londoners. I know, what do you expect with it being in London and all, but as a result of that, anything United related is booed. Then you’ve got conflicting boos, Chelsea players Arsenal players etc, then you have people happily wearing scouse home shirt in the ground, without bother. Heaven forbid if a young kid wants to wear his United shirt though. It’s a southern elitist farce. If the national side could get rid of these fucking ancient losers who are also massive cunts (Gerrard Lampard Terry Cole, anyone who plays for LFC or has a pending criminal case), and move England games around the country instead of forcing supporters to go to London and spend vast amounts of money in what, in all honesty, is a pretty shite part of London, I reckon the England team would garner a lot more support. Not to mention if the FA could just be run in a fucking decent manner. But because of the whole England cult, which has definitely exacerbated in the last decade or so, I won’t support them in the Euros or World Cup. Scott’s right, I honestly can’t cheer when Terry scores. Why would I? He’s a girlfriend shagging, cocaine dealing CUNT. He is a bitter old cock who thinks he’s the King of the world. A lionhearted warrior, nobly battling against these pesky, different coloured foreigners. In other words, he exactly like the scumbags AlphaRS encountered. And he is seen as an example for the England team to follow. He plays up to this image of him of a Captain Leader Legend, which when Wembley is full of Chavski fans for England games, makes him believe his own self promoting hype. He can’t accept he’s a Champions League Loser CUNT who is a farce. Let’s be honest, as good a defender as he was (personally didn’t rate him, overblown hype because he’s English and such a born leader) he’s a fucking scumbag and he’s the worst defender in that English side without a doubt. Then you get people like Glen “I don’t mind if Luis Cuntez racial abuses me! I have my reasons! FUCK OFF! CONSPIRACY! JUST BECAUSE I’M BLACK DOESN’T MEAN I CAN’T BE RACIALLY ABUSED” Johnson. Honestly, well done Glen, congratulations on showing why racism is sometimes so difficult to eradicate, because it’s not a priority for people. If you take an attitude of “well I’m a scouse victim so Suarez can abuse me” then you’re spitting in the face of the people who eradicating a fucking dinosaur practice from Britain and empowering fucking facists in this country.Ladies and Gentlemen, these are just two examples of the players who will be representing our country at the Euros. I for one won’t be tuning in.
Mad to think most of u guys are from England and want to see them getting béat , but to b fair i CAN see where yous are comming from, anyway im a proud irishman who Will be shouting on traps men .. Mabey we will meet in The second round if were lucky enough to get pass The group stages…
great article scott. im more shocked that the england coaches don’t appreciate carrick than anything else. starts week in week out for united but can’t play for england? then again this is the same england that pushed scholes out wide in order to accomodate that fat cunt lampard and 0 titles gerrard.
and at AlphaRS:
don’t let the fuckwits get to you.
you’ve outdone yourself bobby. truly epic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145794/Manchester-United-sponsorship-boost-cushions-blow-Champions-League-nightmare.html
I expected anti-United drivel on here but this was more like being transported back to Soviet in the 80′s and reading a decree from the party leader. I know some people on here work against racism and bigotry and all kind of good causes only to applaud this article and it is back to square one all over again.
I feel sick!
*of course i meant anti-ENGLAND drivel but I think most got that anyway.
BobbieCharlie
Well said pal. I echo your sentiments. Never been to an England game and never will do! I hate the FA as much as I hate city and liverpool!! You forgot to mention how they managed to invent a crime and punishment to secure Wayne Ronney’s omission from the FA Cup semi final against their new golden child, city! Fucking clowns. My mate (a blue!) is a member of the England supporters club, loves it…or loved it, mostly because of the anti United bravado that goes hand in hand with following England. I did laugh however when he and a group of fans got a good kicking by the Portugese police! He was one of the 8 fans who appeared on the front pages of the tabloids after “Fighting” broke out in Portugal several years back. The Sun described him as witless… truth is he’s on £150k per year and drives a porsche.. There was no fight, they got jumped by the police and hauled off…there was a fireman who got a custodial sentence! Just another reason not to follow Engand!!
I agree with Bobby that the FA are cunts but if we would concentrate on our players representing the country then I for one see it in a different light. It’s not like I will ever live and die for England and how they get on in tournaments but I just think the general hate towards the national side abroad is enough without fellow countrymen adding to it.
We beat ourselves up over nothing and no-one is forced to like the national side but I know it would benefit the sport if they did well for once.
A brilliant article from STR on what should be a very personal topic for him.
My feelings for England are very ambivalent. I am not from that country obviously, so my only interest in wanting England to succeed on any level is because of the Manchester United players playing for them. And since in the past, there used to be more of them, I watched some of their tournaments intently to see whether the United blokes were performing well.
However, Hodgson’s craptastic team selection has released that burden for me. No more do I need to watch England and want the United players to do well. Rooney isn’t going to be playing the first two games. And I’ll be very surprised if that mindless bloke called Hodgson even picks Welbeck or Jones for a single game.
So, it really is a no-brainer this time. I don’t give a crap about the Euros and cannot wait for pre-season to start for United.
Ashley young for the number 7 shirt? Na can’t see that happening. We should reserve it for the right man when he comes in and hopefully that will be this summer. We could do with 4 new players in my opinion with 2 centre midfielders and 2 new full backs. I love Rafael’s effort and commitment but in my opinion he hasn’t shown enough improvement. He’s liable to still dive in recklessly and get caught out of position and after getting himself in so many good positions going forward his crossing or decision making was not good enough, hurried a lot of the time.
@Balaji Sivaraman – “Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck” Wellbeck has a good chance of making it in the first 11 with Rooney not available.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1186519-manchester-united-transfer-rumours-why-shinji-kagawa-would-be-a-great-fit
@Joffrey Baratheon – Rafael has lovely crossing ability. But he has time to learn his trade. Couple of seasons and he should be fine. With Smalling as a cover and Fabio if he isn’t going anywhere as well.
Left winger would be a great boost. If Gaitan is good at the left side with Kagawa in the center it could be just fine.
Oh, enough of that,
F*ck Ingerlund!! United > Ingerlund
I’ll be supporting the host nations
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1509117_breaking-manchester-united-singing-section-plans-put-on-hold
Looks like the singing section is put on hold for the forthcoming season. Shame. Could have come in handy.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1509117_breaking-manchester-united-singing-section-plans-put-on-hold
@wayne
Thanks mate.
@corea: I know Rafael has had a lot of disruption through his career as well due to injury which hasn’t helped but I just don’t see any improvement at all since he first came to the club. I know it’s unfair to compare anyone to Gary Neville because he was a world class right back and after watching his career at United I expect everyone to be as good as him! Wed Brown did an amazing job in 07/08 but ever since we have never had a first choice right back. I’m just not convinced Rafael is the man to make it his. The Gaitan story seems to have gone on too much for there not to be some truth in it…I’m just untrusting of Argentinian’s now after the last 2 pricks we had at the club. Certainly won’t be chanting “ARGENTINA” if he signs!
Fred the Red I have a mind of my own mate nothing to do with what STR thinks,Bobbycharlie sums it up
Its an absolute disgrace and a joke that racist cunt is picked to represent the country,he’s a vile disgusting piece of shit and should have been banned from playing till at least after the court case
Look at the fucking squad how the fuck can Rio be left out he’s the only Centre Half who can actually play football and a cunt like Downing is picked,Henderson as a reserve yet Carrick isn’t good enough,what a fucking joke
England don’t deserve my support the FA are a fucking embarrassment
Its not great to see our profits going down. I know it was coming after our early exits from every tournament. I don’t think our current squad is good enough to challenge on all fronts. we need players and that to quality one.
As far as owen goes, I will always like him. He has behaved like a true professional. Him and berba are class.
Corea, Of course, that is if you expect Roy Hodgson to think with his head. In these few short days at the helm, he has shown he is empty up there. So, you can expect a front two of Carroll and Defoe without a doubt.
On the England note I was for once hoping they would do well when Hodgson was appointed and then with Gary Neville being installed as coach. But after Hodgson selected Terry I lost a lot of respect for him. John Terry is a cunt, that word is used far too freely these days but in his case it’s warranted. The FA was in limbo appointing a new manager and who’s fault was that? Yes you guessed it, John ‘racist cunt’ Terry. The same John Terry who tried to claim Alexis Sanchez stood on his toe and he didn’t mean to knee him until he saw the replay and realised that his lie wasn’t going to hold up. I hope they fucking fail now. Terry should never have been picked for his country again.
Blinding post from BobbyCharlie!!!!
I just don’t understand why Carrick isn’t more valued by the England national team. He has been arguably one of the best midfield players in the league this season, but he can´t even make it in the 22 man squad for England.
Here is my England team with healthy players that will not play at the Euros
Foster
M.Richards Rio Jagielka P. Neville
Lennon Scholes Carrick A. Johnson
D. Sturridge Crouch
Sub:
Holt
Owen
Henderson
Carragher
Cleverly
Paul Robinson
Barton
Beckham
Fred the RED
The article is clearly Scott’s view and his reasons are simply laid out.
Because they go against “support your country” you compare them to
“Soviet in the 80′s and reading a decree from the party leader.”
That goes beyond ironic, venturing deep into moronic territory.
The Soviets in the 80′s were not advocating “Don’t support your country”
Neither is Scott. He’s given his view, supported by a lot of material. We now chat about it.
By the way, your name has ‘red’ in capitals. Are you from the Capital, red?
Carroll,Downing and Henderson have been bums all year for any of them to be picked or a reserve is an absolute fucking farce
I’m gutted about the singing section being put on hold for a year. April and May have been fuckng shit from a supporting United point of view. Heyde Ho…..looks like I’ll be selling my sole and sitting in K stand next season…keep the voice company!!
My team for the Euros is Costa Rica
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a contender for the Aston Villa job.
Mike AND James at the K stand?? Lord have mercy
I can’t possibly support a side who slate a player like Carrick so badly.
Sadly, I’ve supported England for the better part of 20 years but it’s ended. I’ve never seen a collection of mediocre players that I can’t fucking bare to watch. A game involving the “wizardry” of a Stuart Downing or the “maestro” himself Gareth Barry or the “bravehearted” bravado of CLLC or fucking “heaven’s gift to the 18 yard box” Andy Carroll is a game I’m not into watching. Unbearable cunts the whole lot of em. The only thing that could possibly get me to tune in would be my hope for nothing else than to see Scotty “steel” Parker found out by a couple of Ukrainian pub players or to see Glen “2-footed” Johnson make some 1/2 known Swedish winger look to be fucking the 2nd coming of Ryan Giggs.
Just pray to my vodka bottle that our lads come home safe and sound and with any kind of luck grow completely disenchanted with the whole EMNT operation and retire from International football for fear the simple act of training with such substandard rubbish would only do them disservice in their careers.
From supporter to hater and really, it never felt so good.
My team for the Euros:
West Indies
Simply because they’ll bring a little bit of the tropical paradise to austerity debt ridden Europe.
Beat that Cedars!
Hang on I’ll take that back
Costa Rica will do a fine job too
How come we are in Europe when we actually really are not in Europe?
I must investigate this with Watson
Best article in weeks Scott. Ha. Terry beating his shirtless chest. Quality. DO United fans think it makes them a top red by not liking Ingerlund? I feel fuck all to them. I laughed out loud when they got done by Germany in South Africa. Best bit being the outrage at Fat Franks perfectly good goal. I think its fans of small clubs who love Ingerlund as they are an upgrade on the shite they watch. Not for United fans. Watching United is much better than watching this shower of shit. As I said before I wouldnt open the curtains if they were playing in my back garden. Well said Ian Brown you legend.
Harsh on Danny, Jones, Rooney and Young but I really mean it when I say I hope this odious bunch, the aforementioned excluded , go out at the group stages.
Oh suffice to say I DID like Ingerlund at Mexico 86, Spain 82 and Italia 90. Thats where it ended.
United – Lampard is a fat cunt.
MG
How about St Lucia? I do receive their monthly news letter after all!
King Eric
Though I am not English I did have a soft spot for them, that for me ended after 82….No surprise really, was purely a Robbo thing
bobbycharlie1968 – Top drawer again pal!
United Reserves round off the season with the Manchester Senior Cup final against City at the Etihad Stadium at 18:30 pm Guatemalan Mean Time
Cedars – Exactly mate . Robbo’s goal after 27 seconds against France! Kenny Sansom, Mick Mills, Shilts, and so on. Even the Italia 90 side I liked. Gazza, particularly. It all started for me after France 98.
King Eric
England v Kuwait!!! Funny thing I was in Kuwait during the 82 WC, even attended a qualifier v New Zealand!! Fuck me, to think this was 30 years ago!!
I understand all the arguments against getting behind England.
But I want England to win in whatever sport their competing in.
Footballs the only sport I really follow and when England play I get behind them.
If we have another Falklands war,
I don’t give a fuck what it’s about I just want us to win.
King Eric
For your eyes mate……..Oh and everyone else of course!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WbxYCe4AWw
If I was a betting man though, I’d be looking at France to beat England 1st match. 2.78 on betfair.
mancdub
Nothing but full respect as far as I am concerned mate….. I do not share your support but I understand it…. As I mentioned to King Eric I did have a soft spot for England even though I am not English..
Pity you lot do not have a national basketball side, could have given you a game!! ha ha
“Kagawa already has experience in Europe and good quality,” Ji-Sung Park said “If he comes to United, I think he’ll play well.”
“It was disappointing season but past is past, I’ll focus on what to do from now on,” Park added. “It’s true that I want to retire at United, but it does not depend on me.”
a little off topic here but I have now learnt that our debt has RISEN again by 26 million and our revenue has fallen by 5%. The glazers spent 71 million financing their debt. FFS.
Revenue fell less than expected from the early Cup failures due to new sponsorship eg DHL
Jello all, from the land of milk and honey. This is Zibbie.
My debts going up rapidly. I’ve not been servicing it much lately either.
As with King Eric my following of the England team stopped after Italia 90, mainly due to the fact that the managers that came after Sir Bobby were fucking turd!! BUT it intensified when our young boys (class of 96) first started to make the back bone of the first team, and the bellends who hated Utd started to slate them or boo them and give them shit, I just thought why the fuck should I waste my time being proud to be English if some fucking nimrods can’t put club loyalty aside and support our lads. And some of the most talented lads to get in the team at the time as well, wouldn’t happen in Spain, Italy, Germany or even fucking Brazil where their fans shoot each other at club level but come together to support their nation.
More recently its the treatment the FA has dished out to us, any other FA supports their big clubs but here its all ABU shit, Rio, Rooney, SAF to name a few shocking examples of the piss poor treatment we receive!! That is why I am a proud Republic of Mancunian and couldnt give a flying fuck what England do!! And with the team thats been selected I reckon they won’t do alot either!!
On a happier note, Owen going means Hazard can wear the No 7 shirt!! Unless he wants money more than glory!!
My Dick!!!
Been a while my good friend……Was always asking about you, hope all is well
Tree and Mr. Ross. All of RoM. A big JELLO’
Great article!
Must say I admire Scholes and Carrick for their statements. Lets see what Barry and Milner can do…
It’s good Chicharito is rested this summer, as Rooney and Welbeck will play matches. England normally make the 1/4 finals. That’s 5 games for Welbeck and 3 for Rooney.
The thing is though: When you see the latino players rolling over and crying for nothing, you sort of just think: Ok let’s beat them. Even if it means a cunt like Lampard is doing it. But come August it means fuck all. Your just bored and need something to watch. Most importantly: No United player shouldd get injured during this crap!
Jello cubs! We thought you did dessert.
Tree your dick is well, a serpentine road life has been as of late.
AlphaRS- my spouse is punjabi descent and has family in Solihull .
Cedars how about this sport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8uqqk2dlXQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Let me know when your teams ready.
We play our home games at Blackpool
Mr. Ross of Scottish Zulu decedents. I have a new phone. Scott did not let me use Zinnia, witch is a good thing with imtmposters.
Zibbie
I know for sure that Wolfie would be glad you are back, kept mentioning your name all the time.
As for the serpentine road, tell me about it!
Installing Gary Neville is a masterstroke, and increases England’s chances ten-fold.
Of course, 10 times 0.1% = 1% so it hardly helps.
I mooted GNev as England’s best choice for Manager when Capello resigned. Not that I thought he had any chance of inclusion. I didn’t even consider the liaison role he will play. A role that far better suits his current level, but not for too long. GNev might take over the reigns, perhaps after a year under Hodgson.
I will never desert the cause that is RoM. What a team, What a club, What a Gaffer
Spot on Scott- very well written. Sums up alot of my sentiments as well.
Bobbycharlie- had a very similar experience in America. Hit home a bit a few things u said. Well said mate.
Being away from Englamd for a portion of my younger years did make me feel more patriotic and proud to be English. However, that was some time ago! For me it’s hard to get up for England matches after experiencing the abuse aimed at United over the years. Put me off to the point where it’s hard to sit down with my son and get excited the way he does over our national team. I want to tell him why I can’t be bothered but that’s somethimg he needs to sort out on his own.
Well done again Scott and Bobby. Great reads .
Falklands war? does the area even belong to england or britain?. Win at all cost mentality even though most of it is done illegally.
mancdub
Fuck me sideways, that is some sport… Mind you living a mere few yards from the beach I get that sort of action all the time……..Never got the job of ‘tan man’ even though I begged for it!!
I thought jello was dessert?
Tree, thanks. I tried like three days ago to post, and Widow, James and more mentioned me and I had some five posts in moderation. I was there men.
Cubs!
No, Zibbie sounds much better!
Cedars what about the south pacific?
I get my news from all the way there.
And the Maldives.
Wolfie he he. Mr. Ross so good to be seen by you.
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Cubs
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MG
The less mentions of the Maldives the better mate……..My ex wife missed a free trip to the islands just to marry me!!
Nani
has he signed???? I think he has already signed the extension?hasnt he?
anyone that knowsmore tell us.
As in Wolf cubs?
Wow what a bolg. So many great fans. SAF and Gill have there business all but done. Kids coming through, heads to fall, by Owen.
Not that I get paricually worked up over it but some serious dickhead decisions were made. Based purely on football reasons I would swap
Crouch for Carroll
Sturridge for Defoe
Carrick for Barry
Ferdinand for Chamberlain
Wolfies Wolf pack cubs, I’m one.
United’s squad for the Manchester Senior Cup final against City’s Elite Development squad
Ben Amos, Sam Johnstone; Marnick Vermijl, Michele Fornasier, Reece Brown, Scott Wootton, Michael Keane, Ezekiel Fryers, Luke Giverin; Paul Pogba, Ryan Tunnicliffe, Tom Thorpe, Davide Petrucci, Jesse Lingard, Robbie Brady; Will Keane.
Elite Development squad! – Ha ha ha ha ha ha ! ! !
Scott and bobbycharlie- excellent posts
Samuel- United WE Stand
What was done illegally regarding the Falklands, and why are you questioning who they belong to. Has Tevez been talking bollocks again?
Roofies
HA HA!
Fruit of Nut’s loins? A bit seedy for my pip.
England always have a scapegoat, it’s not just United players. People still whinge about Batty, Waddle, Southgate and Pearce missing penalties and Maradona’s “Hand of God” incident. Maybe not as harsh as hanging effigies of Beckham but it still goes on.
Of course it happens all the time at club level (see the scousers and even a few of our own fans this week) so no surprise it happens with the national team.
I reckon it says more about our society than the sport. Meh.
We could always use the scouser logic. Remember when they used to cheer for Spain because loads of their players were Spanish? Anything for a glimpse of glory…
Nani has not singed. He could go? SAF has made up his mind some 6 heads or so will roll.
Personally, I’ve always passionately supported England at major tournaments, since I was a kid. Despite the shit they’ve given United and the players we’ve given them over the years.
I will say though, for the first time, this is going to be one major tournament where my support won’t be as passionate. The Rio/Terry thing is what’s really got my goat, it disgusts me what’s gone on there. Throw in Gerrard as captain and it becomes really difficult lol.
I’ll be supporting them but nowhere near as much as usual. Like Scott, my main concern will be the United players there.
Nani has not singed a contract despite his burning ambition, scalding pace and signature fireworks in front of goal.
The fact that John Terry is in the England team means I’ve instantly lost any interest in Englands progress.
I hope the United lads play and stay free of injury, but I can’t wish the team well with Terry in.
get omitted from your national team because some one in the team racially abused your brother OMG..great country that is england.
There are a couple of links to the Reserves here.
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=158621&part=sports
United fans who do get a kick out of England will be relieved that at least Terry won’t be donning the captain’s armband as he beats his shirtless chest following a spirited England draw
Hahaha, no ta.
@bobbycharlie1968 says: “United States of Idiocy/Racism/Obesity”.
AS AN AMERICAN I CAN ONLY SAY ……. I agree.
and I do wish RIo would tell the English FA to fuck off. Its 2012 ffs.
Evening reds around the world,
Alberto Rossi,
How are you pal?
Hope the lads fuck Bitters tonight..
bobbycharlie1968 – bloody good post mate, spot on. Having that twat in the team gives the complete opposite impression though, and so it goes on. Meanwhile Rio’s been fucked over by the FA his whole International career. If I didn’t know better I’d reckon the FA ran affirmative action schemes for certified cunts ha. Rio should have a word with Carrick about footballing priorities tbh.
Dippers want Martinez then, a manager who has good experience in relegation battles- he should fit in well then..
Sandman hello
Few jokes doing the rounds today……….
Liverpool fans have always thought of king Kenny as one of their own. That feeling will be much stronger now he is unemployed as well.
Liverpool have announced that Ken Dodd is to be their new manager. It will mean they won’t have to change the initials on the coat and people won’t laugh at them as much.
Thanks a lot to Michael Owen and home the “elite development squad” are put in their place tonight.
elite development squad or eds for short, dick’eds if you ask me.
Ole’ been linked with the Villa job.
Cubs,
Hello pal,
what up..
off season is already killing
Lots of news sayin nani will be sold…i for one wouldnt be able to stomach that unless a world class replacement is brought it…if we do sell him and we buy kagawa and a left back and someone else its as good a sign as u will ever see that we are totally broke
Marca reporting we have agreed a deal for hazard…dont believe that though
”I can see Kagawa hitting the heights that Mesut Ozil and Luka Modric have achieved in recent seasons . He should able to get his big move to Manchester United.” – Eric Cantona on Kagawa
Great game ahead of us, Petrucci, tunnicliffe, keane brothers, pogba, fryers and so on… waiting to see these guys.
thanks for the link mate.
and for Nani, it would be one of our craziest decisions if we sell him, stupid decision it would be,
peace
Come on reserves.
Get one over the fuckin berties!
Tunnicliffe is a BEAST!! He fucking HATES City haha!! Gwan lad.
Pogba gets to prove his worth tonight. Same for a couple of the other lads. Does the team have enough pace and ball skills?
Aarrgghh. Just look at this fucking mincing goofy greedy cunt. Hope he fucking dies the horrible bastard. Who the fuck does he think he is? The headline makes out he has had a pop at United which he hasn’t really but his comments about Arsenal were a fucking disgrace. What goes around comes around you little prick. Check out those gums:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/samir-nasri-says-title-win-836417
YESSSSSSS! Well done Will Keane.
Keaneee!
What a season that boy is having!
Cedars
I love the Maldives – our honeymoon and all
But Cedars I’ll be quiet though in respect
We dare not sell Nani WTF? give him the new contract ffs. He’s one of our best players and he has been loyal all his career at United. why the hell do we want to sell him?
KE you are awesome. HA! HA!
Petrucci, Pogba and Fryers are good
uff.
what a challenge from Tunni.
Should have been off.
Considering that Pogba’s thinking he’s too good for that level, he doesn’t really set the reserves on fire.
The really sad thing here is that England have no chance of winning the tournament and Terry, Cole, Lampard , Gerrard, Parker and Barry won’t be about at the next world cup so why bother picking any of them now? Should all of gone same way as Rio. Best will in the world chaps, but Scholes and Carrick? Really? Scholes, like Gerrard, was brilliant 5 years ago but wasn’t going to make a significant difference this time around. So, logically, why not just go with a load of younger players and build for 2014. Problem is, who I’m not sure there is anyone that looks the part Wiltshere excepted.
Players come, players go. JOS and last year. Who this year. SAF has a plan. Anyone can go. Look at Verbs, Jeanie, Becks, ect.
Pogba’s story of the season.
disappointing.
Becks and Roy.
apart from his challenge Tunnicliffe is really impressing in his defensive role.
I think Park is definitly a candidate this summer.
Zelh spot on man.
Dunno about you but Petrucci is absolutely class.
workes really hard, knuckled down and got better and better.
Hope he goes on the tour with the team.
How Petrucci hasn’t been given a contract extension an a few first team substitute appearance is baffling, he’s been healthy all season and in good form and most of all he is exactly what we lacked, a player with all the guile and cleverness on the ball and also the composer to retain the ball and an eye for the killer pass. how good it would be if pogba stayed an we could have both pogba and petrucci in the first team next season;)
Like last summer a bunch out a few in and 2 or 4 to be promoted.
Zelh, we must be looking at different games. Pogba is utter class and dominating, along with petrucci. Petrucci has been injured for nearly two years, for the people wondering about contracts and such.
I love the lad .
Vilhelm28 – not really impressed by Pogba. Lots of poor balls. Better in the second half, but if he wants to be in the first team he should dominate that midfield.
Vilhelm28 @
Yes he as but he’s been healthy all season an be probably our best reserve player, absolute class
poor substitution, why is lingard on the field absolute crap
we beliver in sir Alex will sign kagawa
M19ke
You’ll get a rousing welcome, might even make Sky TV mate. Never mind about the singing section we’ll make our own, theres a couple of lads near the front who said their mates are coming over to East stand so hopefully there’ll be plenty more noise next season.
Is this off topic enough?
On Topic
Come on England!
We really need to start coaching possession football, at all levels we seem in capable of keeping the football its totally embarrassing to see the least bit of pressure and we clear the ball long, no composer at all
I’ll enjoy the summer tournament and will hope England and Ireland do well. If they met I would probably support Ireland. We were all hurt by how Becks was treated by West Ham fans in particular bit it is ages ago now and I for one refuse to be a bitter person.
The whole english game needs a good tournament by England and if we were to consider who is backing a team or who owns a club side I doubt we would be able to support any club out there. I think it is time we brought the fun back into the game where we enjoy the sport and all it stands for and just concentrate on the positives. The we and them mentality is slowly but surely killing all the fun and is the same extremism we see among the hooligans most of us on here want to distance ourselves from.
I read what Scott had written and it was like being brought back into the late 90′s again by some time machine and I for one always look ahead and what has happened is history.
Nani- agreed re possession . Frustrating to see how easily the ball was lost under pressure . Still, the second poached goal was sweet. Well done reserves.
James!
I think England will get through their group, unfortunately, but lose to Spain in the quarter-finals.
England = wooden spoon
Think Kelly & Henderson selection a joke but plenty of players more deserving than Rio. Rio has appeared once in last 13 games for England. If you pull out of squad then you can’t just expect to play in tournament. Smallish, Richards & Holt should be on the plane rather than Pool reso’s.