After spending the summer representing England with the Under-21 squad, Danny Welbeck has made the step up to the senior team.
Wayne Rooney was sent off in England’s last game against Montenegro which gave Welbeck the opportunity to show what he could do.
“We moved on as a team,” said Joe Hart after the game. “Welbeck did really well upfront after he came on and did a great job.”
Injuries have hit the U-21 team though, leaving Stuart Pearce with few attacking options. With a qualifying game in Norway on Monday, Pearce gave Sir Alex Ferguson a call to see if Welbeck would be available, but the manager turned him down.
“I spoke to Alex straight after the game,” said Pearce. “I think it was important that we got the game out of the way, the senior game, to find out who contributed within the game. I spoke with Alex and he had concerns about travelling from Montenegro and then getting on planes and coming to Oslo and I quite understood that, to be fair. I had to make the call because we have only got one striker in the squad so we had a decent chat. I thanked him for his help and consideration and we moved on from there and I quite understood his position.”
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We need Welbeck for the game against the scousers, so SAF took a very good decision.
United before England every time. Too bloody right.
Mr Pearce “ITS SIR ALEX NOT ALEX”
Well done Sir Alex, and a great attitude from Stuart Pearce!
Of course, Pearce would probably only have given Welbeck 30 minutes, on the wing!
The England set-up never stop amazing us with their ineptitude. Stay away Danny!
The FA are waiting to see the length of Rooney’s ban before they appeal it.I hope they get the same response United get when they appeal their ban’s from the FA with an extra game for frivolous appeal
Well it makes sense. Once you move on from the U21s, you move on. There should be no turning back.
Smartalex. Hello mate. Yeah good point. Like the clown playing cleverley out on the fucking wing and having henderson in the middle. Well said Fergie.
fuck off pearce you idiot,overrated player poor manager,wish he was still at city…another who went to the easy life at forest rather than join us!
I love the picture.brilliant 2 see our 2 lads laughing out like that.wayne surely starting 2 look like hd is enjoying life and danny showing he is not star struck thats the way we like it aint it!!!!
Cedars- reading your posts over the last couple of days, you’re a good man . A man that admits that he makes mistakes and then apologises for it, deserves respect. it’s time to move on and start posting again if you feel up to it
Love United but England will and always has come first for me. Understand why some people would feel differently but cursing at a top man like Pearce is just embarrassing…crawl back to your caves please.
And I agree with Sir Alex about Welbz sitting this one out; if he wouldnt have been at Montenegro then maybe it would have been possible but going all the way to Norway then to Manchester is too much with the scouser game coming up.
piss poor manager pearce only going to norway with one forward,the england team reminds me of chlesea,no pace
Pearce epitomises everything wrong with the english game. fist puming, supposedly passionate but wih little ability, he was crap as a player and now he is no different as a manager.
He played a quality central midfield player in cleverly to accommodate henderson and rodwell, he is incompetent and inept like every single english manager and i can’t believe he wanted to bring back welbeck who is now a first team player, the idiot.
Pearce epitomises everything wrong with the english game. fist puming, supposedly passionate but wih little ability, he was crap as a player and now he is no different as a manager.
He played a quality central midfield player in cleverly on the wing to accommodate henderson and rodwell, he is incompetent and inept like every single english manager and i can’t believe he wanted to bring back welbeck who is now a first team player, the idiot.
The thing about an u-21 manager is to produce players for the first team so why the fuck would you bring a player down again ,has he nobody to come up to the u-21′s we’ll give him a list
Just watched academy highlights. We got battered by wolves away but a lad made his debut called junazi. Bit odd looking but looks a right player. Commentator was banging on saying he was much sought after. Got him from anderlecht in march. Early days but looks a great young player.
Welbz ? Welbz ? WELBZ ?
Its Super Danny or DannyBoy or HardasWallbeck !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2047190/Spain-pain-Wayne-Fabio-freezes-Euro-2012.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Acapella to freeze out Rooney till Euro 2012 – To Build a team without him – To become less dependant
King -where is junazi from
‘Fabio Capello has warned Wayne Rooney that there is no guarantee he will automatically come back into the England team after his ban at Euro 2012, and said the Manchester United striker will not start in friendlies in the build-up to the tournament’
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/striker-faces-battle-to-win-back-starting-role-2368162.html
Best news from the England camp we’ve heard in years! Hope it becomes reality.
Junazi is the Brazilian name meaning Jones!
No pearce was a decent enough left back and weighed in with goals. Don’t like the bloke particularly and he is a shit manager. Like Samuel said he is all about passion and fist pumping. He hasn’t a fucking clue tactically. His teams play shit football. Like sam and I said played his best midfielder Tom out wide or even on the bench.
capello snouldn’t start Rooney why hit your car head on without airbags
‘Tom Cleverley has been rewarded for his remarkable progress at Manchester United with a contract that ties him to Old Trafford until the summer of 2015. The 22-year-old midfielder has signed a deal that puts him in a similar pay bracket to United’s other England internationals Chris Smalling and Phil Jones, who agreed a £40,000-a-week package.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2047197/Manchester-United-reward-Tom-Cleverley-new-deal-2015.html
We’ll soon have a big stick to beat the FA with, as Jones, Smalling, Welbeck and Cleverley join Rooney to become the Lion’s heart. With Rio and Carrick also likely to play some role, we will have half the team.
… and Ashley Young!
… there’s also Amos, Tunnicliff, Norwood, Morrison et al coming through.
Smartalex. That’s great news. Fuck off Capello you inept cunt.
Markg. Belgium but of Albanian descent. He looked quality on his debut. Nice comments to Cedars by the way. He needs to come back. No one is bothered what he said. He didn’t offend anyone anyway.
Smartalex. Also great news about Cleverley. Norwood is Irish by the way!
King Eric. Thanks mate! I see now on manutd . com that although born in Burnley, Oliver Norwood has represented Northern Ireland at under-21 level. He’s probably better off there!
I’ve always liked Norwood but I thought Eikrem was going to make the break through also……
KE – I haven’t seen that Albanian lad mate what type of player is he?
Also anyone seen much of Petrucci lately in the reserves? I thought he’d be given a chance in the first team this season.
Who the fuck McEachran? Wait wasn’t Henderson the next big thing? Oh Yeah that was after Fabian Delph became World Player of The Year.
Jonjo shelvey & Jay Spearing can do a job for england, those hideous trolls look the part.
Who else ? Jack Yorkshere….Our Tom will cleverley prove he’s the best in england.
Rooney will struggle to get back his place in the england team? im fucking cracking up here, lets see how benty and defoe lead them to glory, supported by donkeys in parker and barry, i can’t wait.
This is great news, rooney can stay fresh while england struggle to find solutions. they don’t appreciate wayne and its d shame he is too pale to be spanish or he would be shining there.
United > Ingurland
Rai. Hello mate. Sorry fell asleep. He was playing number ten but was like the play maker. He was putting balls through. Beating men for fun. Great close control and technique.
Petrucci regularly plays for the reserves. His bad injuries have kept him back.
much ado about nothing. it’ll be good for wayne to get the rest anyway. I’m hoping Tom C, Danny and Jones continue their upward trajectory. Capello says he want to try something different, well those 3 along with Young can would be a good place to start. Freezing out lampard would be great as well. NO doubt Stevie me the cunt will play, unless he breaks down again before the game rolls round
Much later when Pierce writes his memoirs, is he going to change the story like, we could have won it with Danny & ‘Alex’ was at fault?
Hi all.could any of y’all thru red tinted glasses tell me what’s d difference btwn Kevin Davies blindsided bonecrusher on clevs and roons kickout on miodrag.nothing except one gets f**kall and the other a red.I didn’t c no journos calling for Davies’ head(probably they find it too big) or consoling utd on d loss of our midfield maestro and most precious jewel.hypocrites!as I said in the preceding thread,I can’t wait to see a clev-carrick combo in our engine room.it would b so balanced.btw,how many of us noticed that once lampard got on the pitch rooneys game plummeted?it got to the point he just lost it.Ingurlund is a decent team if only lampard can for ONCE lay on an assist for a rooney goal.
Lets say Rooney has stress issues , ever since the penalty miss against Chelski , the crappy game with England, the kick and the red card
Capello’s statement would add more stress/ pressure on Rooney
Bloody we have a game against Scousers at the weekend
n maybe I am just exaggerating too much , Rooney to score a perfect hatrick Berba style
@YS, It didn’t look like stress to me. Especially the way he reacted after he got the red. IMO, he has really mellowed down in recent years. No arguing with the ref and all those shenanigans, he has really turned into someone who can lead from the front for both England and United. I feel the same way about Nani as well – he has really cut down on the excessive diving and holding his legs for nothing, talking back against the ref and getting into scuffles with opposition players. All of this has made both of them much better players. Of course, I don’t have to mention the common denominator in both cases, but it looks to me like someone has worked their magic again.
Really, apart from the crap he is going to get from opposition fans and the craptastic British press, I think this is the best thing that could’ve happened to United and Wayne. While Capello, genius that he is, thinks he can work with a team devoid of Wayne, everyone else knows that it is an exercise in futility. Wayne will be much fitter for United games and we can get the best out of him while England get their arse beaten up.
@smartalex
I would be very surprised to see either Rio or Carrick pull on an England shirt again, if I’m being brutally honest.
Line up for Lpool
DeGea
Jones/Smalling Rio Vida Evra
Carrck
Tom Ando
Nani Rooney Young
@Jeet
Too soon for Cleverly I reckon.
DDG
Smalling
Jones
Vidic
Evra
Nani
Anderson
Fletcher
Young
Rooney
Welbeck
@Kanchelskis: Hope Carrick-Ando rather than Fletch-Ando, TBH
So say Rooney gets suspended for more than one Euro 2012 game. Is there any point in Capello calling him up for the summer tournament?
Once again ingurlund cover up their mediocrity with even more crap.crapello coming out to say he won’t play rooney against Spain is just a cheap fabrication of an excuse to give when ingurlund get smorgasborded by Spain @ wembley.d only difference rooney could have made on d day is to reduce d embarrassing scoreline.
@kanchelskis, If I see Fletch and Ando partnership in another match for the time being, I might just end up strangling someone. If our poor performances in the past few games have proven anything, it is that they don’t make an effective combination. We always need either Carrick or Cleverley (or Giggs even) in the middle of the park along with Fletcher and Ando. Both of them are DMs and we lose our ability to hold on to the ball when only both of them play. Despite some people’s obvious dislike of Carrick’s sideways and backwards passing, at least it helps us hold on to the ball instead of passing it directly into the opponent’s feet.
I think we might just go in with a 5-man midfield for this one.
DDG
Smalling-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Carrick
Nani-Ando-Fletch/Park-Young
Rooney
With Young coming inside to provide some support to Rooney may be since he is very effective in that role. Of course, Sir Alex may just surprise us by going for a open 4-4-2, but going by his recent comments, he is more that just a little concerned with the lack of defensive cover ATM, which is why I went for a 4-5-1.
4-4-1-1 may be, I did give a line up in a previous topic lol but another one may be with the 11:
DDG
Jones-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Nani-Ando-Carrick-Giggs
Young
Rooney
And btw a good move by SAF to keep Welbeck fresh, we will of course need him in that game, and may be time to veto Rooney’s participation for senior england squad as well, bring on the domestic titles instead
Balaji – actually, why not Carrick-Ando-Giggs in the middle? Or too attacking, do you think?
Guyz,why can’t that muppet crapello flow with the times.Portugal have made their best player cr7 captain,ditto Argentina :messy,Slovakia:hamsik,Spain xavi(vice),Wales :ramsey and d list goes on despite all d above not being d eldest or most experienced members of their respective NTs.don’t those knuckleheads @ the EFF.A. know dat giving rooney such responsibility (remember he’s asked for it) would actually settle him down?hell no, instead they go ahead to ban their talisman for the most important friendly in the history of d English game!swots d lot of them!that’s d major prob with ingurlund alwayz clinging to d past and ever reluctant to face d reality of d NOW. Btw saf has stated that rooney is d leader of the utd frontline.that’s what’s up!
I’m really not into selecting line-ups as I believe father,excuse me,saf knows best.yet,I want all true red devils to know,that every member of our saf selected squad is a genuine title contender on both domestic and international fronts.rest easy.God is in control of red devils.ain’t He?
@Jeet, As I said, with our recent defensive lapses, I would be prone to fewer heart attacks if we had Fletcher or Park making a nuisance of themselves in the middle of the park. If we are in a position where we have to press forward more, then we can bring on Giggs. Of course, the other side of the coin is Sir Alex going with a 4-5-1 but with Ando and Cleverley in the middle of the park. That way we have great movement going forward and Carrick or Fletcher or even Park is available behind those two and ahead of our defenders to provide the necessary cover. This may prove to be a great formation in away games against the top teams and in Europe.
Too early to predict the line up for this Saturday. We don’t know how Smalling, Vidic, Evans, Evra and Fabio are coming along with their recoveries and with more international games this week there’s the prospect of more injuries. Thankfully (from what I checked) Chicharito and Valencia won’t be in action this week. On the other hand, Liverpool have a problem with Suarez who’s playing a game late on Wednesday night. 2 and a half days before the Anfield game. Don’t see how he will be ready for that.
Correction. Hernandez and Valencia are involved in friendly games.
Thus spake the Greek Oracle!
More (cracking) news from the oracle.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Oct/tom-cleverley-signs-new-contract-until-2015.aspx
This time it’s stale, I think someone else (Smartalex?) beat you to it
DDG
Jones Rio Vidic Evra
Nani Ando Fletch Young
Rooney Welbz
ahahahahaha funny how it’s welbz with scott now
Costas – Get with the programme my friend!! smartalex posted that Cleverley contract news last night. On this occasion you are late mate!!! Only messing Costas.
KE – Yeah I know the past few years Petrucci has struggled with injuries, hope it’s not another Possebon problem when he can’t get mentally fit…
@KE
Ha. I don’t read every post, so I didn’t notice it. It doesn’t hurt to hear good news more than once though.
this is the best news of the day!!
hahaa..
Nice defend SAF~~
now we can have Welbz fresh and fit for this weekend…
*am suffering from ‘football withdrawal’…definitely need more action than the international games..
No way are we going to help the FA. No Way!