Ahead of kick-off, it was the reaction to Wayne Rooney’s name that was most heavily anticipated. Cheers came for all our players, quieter when they got to the subs… until Rooney’s name was read out. Disappointingly, there was a definite difference in volume when it got to his name, with him getting the loudest cheer of the subs. Hard not to find that embarrassing when legends like Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs are named on the bench.
It was fairly ironic that Scholes and Rooney came on together, although something well planned by the manager. Here’s Scholes, a player who doesn’t have an agent, one of the most talented midfielders this country has ever seen, who never has had a fuss over his contract, who’s never flirted with other clubs to boost his salary, and who has never contemplated leaving. In contrast, we have Rooney, a player whose agent has total control over him, one of the most talented forwards this country has ever seen, who has been in talks with our biggest rivals for months behind the back of the club, released a statement for the whole world to hear about his desire to leave, before settling on a much improved contract, making him easily the highest paid player at the club.
Any negative reaction that Rooney would get would in part be masked by the unavoidable positive reaction which always greets Scholes.
With some fans, who had played the indifference card when the team sheet was read out, feeling frustrated with the cheers, the reaction to him coming on the pitch was a lot more negative. There were still sections of the crowd cheering and clapping loudly as he came on but there were plenty of audible boos around the ground too.
Moments later, Paul Scholes’ song was sung loudly by all, to illustrate the point. Rooney didn’t get a song all game.
But whether booing or cheering, both reactions do our fans’ reputation no favours. Had the situation not been resolved and it looked like Rooney would be leaving in January, then boos would be more than acceptable. But given his U-Turn and decision to sign a new 5 year deal, booing your own player just isn’t on.
Equally, why on earth would people in the ground think he is deserving of cheers or special treatment? How small time is that? The lad told everyone he wanted to leave United and we know his chosen destination was Manchester fucking City, yet we’ll welcome him back with loving arms like the Prodigal Son because he decided he would wear our shirt for a mere £180k a week! On what planet do you have to be on to think he should be cheered for coming on the pitch?
For the time he was on the pitch, the reactions continued to be mixed. Some from the Stretford End tried chanting his name, whilst others tried to drown that out with boos. The same can be said at full time when he applauded the Stretford End as he walked off the pitch.
In terms of his performance: he missed a sitter, lost the ball too easily on a couple of occasions, and played a couple of really good balls. So, no different from the past 8 months.
Indifference is all the lad deserves. When he scores, we’ll cheer, because United have scored, but the small club mentality we witnessed today, in regards to both the boos and cheers, was very disappointing, although if we’re honest, totally expected.
I can’t imagine I’ll ever sing his song again. Very sad.
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Sorry Scott but on this one I am behind our club, our manager and our players. Rooney took bad advice and if Fergie can forgive him, I certainly can. Please don’t add to the media circus around this and just leave the boy to get on with it.
Much improved contract with nothing much changes on the pitch. Seriously, sell him. I’d rather have mediocre players who played with the their heart at their sleeves rather than a supposedly talented player with no sense of loyalty to our beloved club.
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Personally I think it’s a shame he got a somewhat positive reaction, I wanted full on booing for a player I can never feel the same for again.
Whilst he wears the United shirt I hope he performs well, for United though, not for him.
How will I feel when he scores? I just do not know.
I’m happy with the win. And i think it’s about time we forgive Rooney.
@Scott – do you regard myself as a blank space ? I have been asking you countless times about thу proves Rooney talked to Manchester fucking City. How do you know that ?
Do you consider 180k per week not deserved amount fot the player like Rooney ?
You talk about the reaction from OT faithfull but you come to the ground regularly and you should know that most of the time the atmosphere at the ground is nothing compared to the atmosphere we enjoyed during the 90s i suppose. I am not going to get deceived.
watching on TV, I heard that the fans singing Paul Scholes he scores goals once both players came into the game. It was loud and almost made me think that it was done on purpose to make sure to drown out any Rooney chants. Did anyone else hear that?
Yeah I guess it was a bit of a letdown that he got a lot of cheers, even though from the telly I heard some boos too. Or maybe that was the Rooney chant. I don’t know.
The most worrying thing for me today was that the atmosphere wasn’t good in general. It was too quiet even at 0-0.
” I’d rather have mediocre players who played with the their heart at their sleeves rather than a supposedly talented player with no sense of loyalty to our beloved club.” you live in another world.
i would rather have myFUCKINGself at United that the mercenary WayneFUCKINGRonney because i am loyal to the club. But unfortunately no one know about my devotion for the club and i am a blank space as far as the club is concerned.
Fuck me he only played about 30minutes give the lad a break, yeah he missed a sitter but so did several other players. He will start against Rangers and he should progress with each game over the next month just in time for the pre Christmas showdown with Arsenal & Chelsea. He knows he made a mistake and all you people who say you wont cheer for him when he scores but you will cheer for the team are full of shit.. Hes not going to get his confidence back by our own fans booing him every fucking time he touches the ball. And yeah i was for selling him when he wouldn’t sign the new contract but its in the past now and its time for everyone to move on..
I showed no reaction at all to him today, I didnt cheer and I didnt boo him, I agree it was very
small time cheering him, a total indifference to him from everyone would have been better.
We move on now after today,and try and put everything thats happened behind us, we are
joint top – everyone has to pull together for the club, theres a 19th title to be won !!!!
Who would have thought last year when Wayne Rooney got injured that we would be here talking about Wayne Rooney in any other way
Football bloody hell.
The relationship between Manchester United and Rooney is not the same anymore. Even his body language did not show that he was really there. I guess he doesnt feel like he’s part of the family.
I concur with Scott, it was a very muted reception, clever of SAF to do whaht he did but it didnt really help, booing him not for me (I cant and wont boo the shirt) No applause from me. I dont want an apology cos he would just be apologising for being stupid, what I want is a staement on MUTV where I can hear him say he’s staying, it’s not much is it?
Embarassed for everyone who cheered him.
…..rooney here ……rooney there ……its getting boring
Atletico offered De Gea a new contract. What a suprprise! He will earn 1.1 mln euros per year but i guess the most incomprehensible issue is that i i think they will add a few more millions to his buyout clause. To be fair he hasn’t yet offered his answer.
I said in the other post, I wish he recieved no reaction at all. Would been great if the fans continued to sing, not registring his presence and giving him no attention whatsoever. That would send out a nice message to the cunt. But hey, like Ronaldo didn’t deserve the hero’s welcome back in the 08/09 season, Rooney also didn’t. But both got cheers.. so no surprise there.
One love one united!!!
Fze123 – yeah pal, no surprise whatsoever. But i am not sure whether we can consider ourselves blessed.
@ bbabyj
And im embarrassed for everyone who booed one of our players.
Scott,
Quite rightly the reaction was mixed … I was silent when I saw him coming on. He played
with the same indifference that saw him fly off the ‘America’ to gain fitness … people seem to be
blaming his agent but hold on a minute this guy has enough savey to be part of a TV footie talent contest and also enough savey to read the reaction of the fans and go back on his wish to sign elsewhere … he’s going to have to work MUCH harder to want me to want him back in the team.
Personally and at present I would rather UTD had the cash to buy players that have enough cop on to want to play for UTD irrespective of seeking a better advange in their upcoming contracts.
Hernandez showed conviction and more promise in his technique with his header and that should be worth talking about as much as Rooney’s underpar return me thinks …
Too early to let him off the hook and start cheering him again. And I can’t stand the thought of our own fans booing our own players at our own ground. So, total silence might have been the appropriate response (and would have made a statement in itself), but hardly realistic to expect that to happen.
As for the match, we seemed lost until Scholes came on. Find it hard to feel satisfied about winning 2-0 against a team we thrashed 5-0 twice last season, who this season have scored the lowest number of goals in the top four divisions and are already courting relegation, and who today were down to nine men for one-third of the match.
On the other hand, as my Indian friends like to say, we did the “needful”. And given that the Russian bus has developed a badly misfiring engine, along with four flat tires and some decidedly rusty body work, it’s starting to look good for us. But then it was never really looking all that bad: even during that run of bloody woeful draws-that-shoulda-been-wins, we really didn’t need to panic so early in the season.
We should all forgive and forget, we are humans, we are bond to do mistake. Let’s love rooney as we do before. GGMU.
I’m still waiting for the apology Ferguson said he’d make to the fans………….
Given the standard of football we could take or leave it’s less surprising that Roo got a decent reception coming on. First half I saw a couple of players worth singing about, Vidic, Nani especially. But there were plenty who played like they knew they couldn’t lose their place. Fletcher and Carrick stand out here. Bloody awful. I know Scholes is magical but his impact on the game reflects as much on the poverty of ideas from these two.
But the gods of football made the best statement to our prodical son, by giving a goal the our Pea.
“Forgive and forget … Joseph?”
My arse to that … he’s enough cop on to take the silent treatment .. and that is exactly what he should get until he scores about 5-10 goals in my humble opinion … the lad’s not acting in the UTD way …
Utd made Rooney and let’s add that into the pot!!!
Fucking Rooney this and that who gives a shit. This is not Eastenders.
This is a race for knocking Liverpool off their fucking perch. 19th title and 4th Champions League to win.
Nothing else matters.
Well…he is a United player, so as far as I am concern, I want him to get back to form and start making a difference in our squad.
If he is going to be making that much money, lets hope he does something positive to help the club….
Enough of this, please!
Just got back from the game, and i’m so pissed off at the reaction Rooney got. Could have thumped the WELSH twat sat next to me, who was clearly a day-tripper, chanting “ROONEY” every time he warmed up.
I felt like the only one who actually remembered he held our club to ransom. Fucking money grabbing tosser. I dont care what he does for our club, hes shown the only reason he’s there is for the money.
On a lighter note, at least were now joint top!!
wonder if the Berb will play against Rangers at all….
Rooney said there was no quality in the team… Did anybody forget that?? Why can’t he just make a public apology to the FANS and his Team mates?!? that would benefit him so much! doesn’t anybody think he should do that?
Spot on!
@united.george
My guess would be no. It will probably be Rooney or Chicharito starting in a 4-5-1 formation.
What the hell is up with Anderson?
Off topic completely, but i was just wondering why are some people names in red and the rest in black?
and oh ye…..rooneys a cunt
I didn’t cheer, I didn’t boo.
If Rooneys heart was truly still at OT, surely he’d have come out with an apology to the fans by now?
The silence from him is shameful.
It perhaps suggests he knows something we don’t.
Given the huge PR machine available at OT, one would think a huge effort would be made to convince the fans that Rooney understood his mistake and was genuinely sorry.
Even SAF said he would be apologising to the fans.
Yet still we wait.
If it is that hard to do Wayne, it’s unlikely to have any sincerity attached to it.
Very sad, like STR said, i’m also unlikely to sing his name again.
@madmike, I was the same, had some obvious photospotters next to me who squealed when rooney was announced on the bench and looked like they were going to piss themselves with excitement when he came on. Total indifference was what should have been the order of the day, and to be fair most people around me seemed to follow the same sort of idea
I think its better for us to face much more important issues than to keep whinning on issues that concerns just a player.i consider this a waste of space and time.yes he wanted,to leave,yes he courted city(though uncofirmed),yes hes been out of form and stil got a salary raise,and maybe in the worst case scenario he’l stl leave us soonest,so what?that some cheered him is their opinion whilst the boos by others is their opinion and they are all entitled to it.someone’s opinion has never and shd never be everybody’s,only dictators get to force their opinion on ppl.we have won today but d performanc was stil shameful made worse by our inabilities to capitalise on our numerical strength.we are level on point now at the top not because we deserve it but because chelsea and arsenal and by extension other big teams have been losing points.pls can we face serious matters.
Rooney can fuck off.
Corea – even if they put in a higher by out clause, it doesn’t matter. Spanish players like De Gea or Llorente have a clause in their contracts that they have to pay the buy out clause by themselves.
So United would have to pay the 25MIo € + 47% for taxes.
Zelh – sorry, but haven’t spotted the difference. yes, they have to pay the buy out clause. we will have to pay it, so if the buyout clause is bigger we’ll have to pay more.
@tryder91
The people, which names are in red, are city fans.
Level on points not because we deserved it but because Arsenal and Chelsea and other big teams have been losing points? What kind of twisted logic is that ffs.
@Passe, so that means Scott is a City fan? Ha! Funny guy.
“It was a good reception, and it will be pleasing for him. It will settle him down and make him realise he is at the right club.It was a quiet comeback. He got involved in a few bits of the interplay. He needed 25 minutes or so. He will play against Rangers on Wednesday, that is the perfect game for him to come back and get 90 minutes…”
Fergie
Understand where Scott is coming from with this article but i’m afraid i disagree. I love how we fiercely love our club but that also includes the players. People talk as if Rooney wasn’t going to get an improved contract in the first place so what the fuss about.
The boy made a huge mistake and i fully appreciate the fact that it’ll take a while to warm up to him but that we should ignore him or not feel personal pride when he scores a goal or plays well is just ridiculous. If we don’t enjoy him then who will, said if before in the last thread, if we’re so “Rooney can fuck off” or “He’s dead to me” we may as well protest against him by booing so he can leave us and join city, at least then the abuse and indifference will be justifiable.
FFS he’s here he’s playing for Untied we should be willing to give him a shot. This is the same player we never doubted for one fleeting second before August, how could a player pretend and deceive for that long and you can bet your top dollar that if that was the case SAF would have let him go,his heart is still with Untied. SAF knows it, the players know it and the fans know it even if we all feel betrayed by his actions.
@passe
That’s absolute shite were all Pool fans.
Yawn.
Who sez he wanted to go shitty and who sez he’s on upwards of 160 grand I don’t think he’s on anywhere near that that’s not how united roll we’re a propper club that doesn’t throw huge money at players ! Get behind him we all know it was that cunt of an agent using Rooney to line his own pockets !
Chelsea have lost two in games in a row for the first time since May 2006
@slim – let’s just wait and see, mate.
No player wearing the red shirt should ever be boo’ed.. Anyone says they should is talking shit.
Rooney, as long as he plays for United then I’ll support him.. Because I want what’s best for the team.. If he gets back to his best form we can win the league, getting boo’ed isn’t going to help that so for me, it’s fucking stupid
@willie
Have some coffee ffs. It’s 9 and you are already yawning, lol.
Our display wasn’t that bad.
Anyone know why Berba was left off the squad?
Sorry to change the topic a little, just very surprised he wasn’t there, even on the bench.
As far as Rooney, MEH
Costas – Taken in to consideration the opposition, it was pretty awful, but the 3 points were a must today. On Rooney, just bored with it now, he’s here and while that’s the status quo, we should support him. Pour a little liquor for Ben Foster, well played lad.
Costas
Can’t wait to actually start playing properly maybe we really will run off with this league – enough time then to make an assault on Wembley and the CL final
We live with hope a wing and a prayer…
i agree with the first comment!
i went today his reaction was mixed when his name got read out but when he was warming up and when he came on he got a good reception!
he’s stil playing shit though!
I don’t think he’ll be at United for as long as people think/hope.
scott ur a fn nobb, back the fn tean and the players, fn tool
ge over it
Lads I’m sure most of you agree, never boo anyone in the shirt (leave that for Chelsea and Inguuuurland fans).
I didn’t boo nor did I applaud, why should I, when I actually here him say he’s staying from his own mouth my attitude might soften.
I`ll cheer any player who plays for utd,even if he he has made a mistake.Anyone that boo`s their own player is a knob.
Cheers have to be EARNED, hope he never kisses the badge again
Costas @ 20:27: “What the hell is up with Anderson?”
Am I just being an optimist or is this situation eerily reminiscent of Nani’s enforced leave-of-absence last fall ?
Anderson the enigma.
Off topic and not that I give a toss, but news is news, Barca are 8 nil up away from home with 15 minutes left to play!! LOL wtf?
Just reading the latest Red Iss and it says Ando was spotted out recently eating a salad and drinking mineral water alluding to prehaps a new found adherence to having a better lifestyle, you can only hope he ends up justifying the song we have for him.
@CedarsDevil, why are you surprised?
Love that SAF has been emphasizing that he needs to be in charge, in control, to be effective. This as Chelsea are not backing Ancelotti over Wilkins. Maybe he knows more than us.
Fze123
Not surprised mate, just amused
Piss poor league tbh
nice overhead kick by ibrahimovic to put milan up ahead, then he injures his elbow as he was celebrating the goal:) what a knob…..
starting to worry about the berb if he sits out too many games. his confidence will get worse. at the same time, he has not been spectacular either….
Mattbw7…hasnt rooney earned the cheers already?? the lad carried utd last season,yeh he made a mistake,he listened to his agent too much,after all he was only saying what alot of the fans have been saying,some of these players arnt good enough!
Get behind any player who plays for utd for fucks sake,some of our fans are spoilt and it makes me sick…..I grew up watchin utd in the 70s and 80s when we were shit and we used to wish for players like rooney…..what are all the rooney haters going to do? keep booing him so he loses all his confidence and drags the team down? or boo him until he starts to score again and then be hypocritical and start to cheer him again safe in the knowledge that “he`s served his do`s”? or do what a proper fan does and get behind him because he plays for utd? I know which one I would choose because its better for the team…
@CedarsDevil, Meh. Piss poor is an understatement.
Almeria 0 Barcelona 8. oh dear!!!!
@O.T Veteran (First post on this topic)
“Sorry Scott but on this one I am behind our club, our manager and our players. Rooney took bad advice and if Fergie can forgive him, I certainly can. Please don’t add to the media circus around this and just leave the boy to get on with it.”
I totally agree with your comments on this issue. If our manager can forgive him, i would too. It’s not that i am saying he can walk straight back to what he was before this but allow him to start earning the respect again. he has to start from zero again for sure. SAF is not one to give in to nonsense even if he said recently that he has mellowed. He still is in control and if he feels that Rooney has over stepped the mark he would have let him go!!! I just feel we should show we are the best fans in the world and get right behind our players. At the end of the day, Manchester United matters most and if Wayne Rooney can help us achieve more trophies with the right attitude that he has shown in the past, i would cheer him on!! Everyone makes mistakes and learn from them!! !! Come on, Give the lad a chance!! I am sure he will come good!!
So did I Rooney is Class, Im 44 so I know what you mean but I cant remember a cunt letting his agent do that and talk to City about a contract and if you don’t think that didn’t happen, well history will tell.
All I want hear from him is he’s staying, from his own mouth on MUTV, the website, the Beeb, ITV any fucking where as long as I can hear him say it.
i would never boo a player who stepped out in my beloved teams shirt. thats for small time clubs who don’t get their way i.e shitty. no where was it said that he wanted to go to city (credited source) when we all know no one ever wants to go there. i support the badge and the club thats what i will always do. what i don’t get is why we keep harping on about one player in a team of 25+. we are man united not rooneys team.
can we please move on now
the question is how long can we not chant his name? or make a possitive statement about him? if we are going to chant his name after he has scored 5-10 goals as someone suggests then we might as well chant his name now to give him confidence. its a confusing situation but since SAF has decided to keep him and play him then we should get behind him for the sake of the team and the club.
Oh and I didnt say I would or have boo’d him so Id rather not have my name used in article where thats mentioned or people might get the worng idea, I hated the fuckers when Richardson was boo’d a few years ago, yes he was a twat but ffs, he was in the shirt.
There’s something wrong with Rooney’s body language. Something is broken forever and for crying out loud, the first thing i would have done was apologise to the fans. He hasn’t done that yet and that says it all imo.
Good to see him back, looks thin and ready to get into game shape. MUFC best offensive threat has been MIA and with Chelskis loss only goal differential separate them from the lead. Man Utd still are not playing their best ball. Looks like Berba is 3rd or 4th strike option. With Giggs coming back and getting Valencia back in Feb. will be a boost. GLORY GLORY MAN UTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO ROONEY MAN UTD TRUE WORLD CLASS OFFENSIVE OPTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just watched highlights of the rent boys game, Foster had a blinder! could not count the number of top saves he make….. Now back to normal when we play you Ben LOL
After all the shite, you would have expected a performance by rooney today.
You may argue he was not match Sharp but ffs he should have been busting a gut if he wanted to win back the support.
mattbw7…its a sign of the times Im afraid…footballs all about money now…rooneys obviously not the brightest…but I really do think he loves utd,and I think with the fans backing he will prove it again.
ps..I used to love queuing up to get in the stretford on a saturday afternoon,and it beeing that packed when you got in that you couldnt even face the way you wanted too….
zibbie!
Queing on a Saturday afternoon dont you mean morning lol let in at 1 still 2 hours before kick off, sos only joking, god I shed I tear for those days.
One thing though if he loves UTD why doesn’t he say it, soory but I cant see it.
rooneyisclass
Those were the days my friend, how much was it to get in? Early 80′s was 2.50 or 3.50 cannot remember any more!
Now, back to the game!! We played like bloody amateurs in the first half!! This is exactly what i was saying from the start of the season, why are we only playing football when we are a goal or two down, or in the last 10-15 minutes of a game that we take our opponents by the scruff of the neck? Why not play with intensity from the start?? What about the rest of the game???.we are giving opponents confidence in the way we play!! There is no intensity to our game..we don’t pass the ball around with zest, we don’t seem bothered about pressing and charging down balls, Our midfield is just hopeless…central midfield is dead, positioning is fucking atrocious!!! For me Carrick and Fletch are not it…they can’t play together….they are also not in form…player movements off the ball are horrible….no understanding in and around the box…lack vision…these are what i have seen in so many games this season…macheda is running around like a headless chicken most of the time..but i do not blame him…the service he gets is nearly nil..he has to chase down every ball himself…our midfield really sucks…they have got to really buck up….
I remeber it being 3 quid at one point but fuck me I cant really remember but imagine showing up early today at the stretty with some cash and getting in, i also remeber about being shit scared at standing inthe centre of the stretty with all the big boys!! but you grow dont you.
PS where the pies better as well
mattbw7
Seeing we are of the same age I am sure we share similar memories! Remember the classy Arnold Muhren, or Jesper Olsen? I certainly do…… Best night to my recollection was March 84 v Barca, arrived late and for once could not get into the Stretford End ……
Im sure I can remember £2-20. The coppers on the horses didnt give a fuck and used to squash you against the wall!!! Great days…I remember when I got a bit older and thought I was hard..so I started goin in the utd road,haha
I didn’t even read all the comments but how you would like one of our top players if not our BEST player be booed and slagged off is shameful….and then people whine that we don’t have top talent…he made a mistake…the same twats who are booing him now will be singing his name if he scores a hat trick every game and kisses the badge…have some perspective..he’s a human being…albeit a very flawed one…but he needs our support to regain top form and be the player we know he can be..one of the best in the world..c’mon United c’mon Wazza! Grow up people..you don’t have to love him but DON”t boo him becuase YOU only hurt the club you profess to love by making us weaker…ok hopefully this is that last negative blog i read about rooney on here…
The burgers outside the ground were shite!!!! none of your curry,or steak burgers or fuckin coq au vin like these days…top day out though.
sorry Red Typhoon I thought our approach play in 1st half was ok, we just lacked up top, you gotta think berba or dare i say it rooney would have sorted that out
all my concern is just to see again the flourish football among Obi, Nani and Rooney like we had before Giggsy, Rooney and Ronaldo once! As long as united players, I support them.. on pitch even for least favorite one!
I was taking the silent approach today until he was booed by pricks around me so I cheered and sang his name as many did in the Stretford End cos he’s a United player.
Get off his back and let him get his confidence back so he can “carry us” to 19!
The fact that so many ‘fans’ chanted his name only goes to show how fickle fans are. To be honest the whole identity of the fanbase on a matchday has changed noticeably for the worse in the past 5 years. I appreciate that a team with the history and charisma of United will attract fans from far and wide – and I wouldn’t begrudge them a trip to see their heroes – but there are way too many day-trippers, know-nothings and Far Eastern students in the ground for my liking these days. Has to be said, unpalatable as it may be to some,
People have always come from far and wide to support United but the combined effect of the Glazer’s and ever increasing prices means that so many old-time local fans have been priced out and it has an effect on the atmosphere in the ground. Sat in the North Stand today – as I surveyed the pockets of empty seats all round the ground (another sign of the times) – you could hear a pin drop. There’s always the Stretty to start up a few lines but fuck me – what a shit atmosphere. Some might say it was fitting for another predictably underwhelming win – but fuck it, it was a win and we level pegging with the Chavs.
One final word about Wigan. Wigan is about 15-20 minutes drive from United. The fact that this club can only bring 1000 or so pie-eating mute supporters makes me wonder whether they do really deserve to be in this league. Worst home support and worst away support. It’s not like it was even a televised match (unless they’re all sopcasting). Piss poor.
yeah cedars lots of flair but very frustrating at the same time, like it was for a lot of the time then, not helped with the mickeys having the best period ever
rooneyisclass & mattbw7
Now my memory box is wide opened! LOL
Here is one for you……….. Whenever Robbo put his foot in (Endless times every game of course)
We would sing
‘Nice one Robbo, nice one son, nice one Robbo lets have another one’ Bloody brilliant days
the performance still lacking in heart of our midfield.. rely too much on wings? or don’t have much movements to create angle for through pass? no space for dribbles ? don’t know? but I know it isn’t working spectacular!
I think our capacity was around 43,000 at the time and we were the loudest in the land….Give me that over 75,000 any day
cedarsdevil….loved robbo,like souness later said …he was utds best defender and going forward he was our best attacker…great player.
when we got the 1st title after 26 long years I think i wanted it more for Robbo than anyone else, I know it might sound odd but I had a feeling it had to be that year and if it didnt happen one of the greatest players and servants of the club (are you listening Rooney) I’d ever seen would miss out on the big one.
@CedarsDevil
Those were the days. Getting a bit diluted with the bigger space and fewer die hard fans.
Still, that old Robbo chant would work a treat for Rio or Vidic!
Cheers
half boo.. so he knew .. we don’t like what he did..
half cheer .. so he knows .. as long as he give it all on pitch .. we support him..
that’s how I see this!
CedarsDevil – Different type of fan now, compared to nowadays. The stretford end, along with the Kop, were the best standing areas anywhere in Europe.
What gives with some of the Rooney adoration he’s only a football player and at this moment in time not a very good one being booed or not All this sensativity to Rooney by some of the posters to his criticism.Probably have no problem with critics of O’shea,Berbatov and others,Can anyone tell me when Sir Alex put Wayne on as a sub to get us a winning goal against Sunderland and afterwards spoke to the cameras saying that is not acceptable was he inferring Wayne’s performance was not acceptable.Just curious.
mattbw7
could not agree more mate, how fitting it was for Robbo to hold that first one with Bruce, and how large of Bruce who was captain to insist the Robbo walked up along side him to pick it up…
FletchTHEMAN
Spot on mate, would work great for Vidic imo
Well chaps Im off to watch Im a celeb, funny as fuck, speak to you later
LUHG
willie
I agree mate, the ‘prawn sandwich brigade’ quote springs to mind… Sad really, its become overly commercial with all these hospitality packages etc… But its part of the evolution I guess. Having said that and for those of us lucky enough to have experienced it, we will always treasure it…
You know in early day cricket the teams were either “gentleman” or “players”; the players were the ones who did it for money, gentlemen did it for the love of the game. Seems to me that United is much the same; there are guys who play for us for the money and mostly any team will do. Gentlemen are the ones who embrace the club and what it’s about.
I’m not sure about Rooney. Yes he behaved like an absolute cunt but he’s also an over grown kid with really bad judgement. The first part of the year he was this god who would finally lift England to where it belongs – the press sucked his dick every day. And then he plummets. Enough to do anyones head in, but add to that a manipulative agent, a club that pisses millions into banks coffers, a club down the road who would wipe his arse for him, and you pretty much have the makings of a train wreck. Rooney was played to perfection and generated a huge pile of dosh for his pimp.
Frankly he needs protecting from himself, not too dissimilar to Gazza for that matter. He needs United, we need Rooney. Let’s see how that pans out.
He`s here,he`s there,he`s every fuckin where ashley grim(es)….he was bad..
mattbw7,,,shaun to win!!
Shauns a square, has to be big Linford.
Tonka Norris
Good post mate
DO you know if he’s a red?
A good mate of mine who’s a City fan, went to watch Ian Brown on the night I went to watch UTD v West Brom in the week Bestie passed away and he recorded on his mobile Brown singing no1 is georgie best, no2 is……… all the way through and as much as he hates UTD he said it was a class move.
Don’t know if Shauns a red, but Bez most certainly is a red.
Shauns a red
Simply Red (Stars) is a red for certain! LOL
Maybe he was cheered because we were shit until he came on, no??
Fergie’s come out saying Berba missed out for tactical reasons … hmmmm
Scott. Agree with you 99,99% of the time but on this one I am with O.T Veteran
Berba was ‘dropped’ today. SAF’s reason ‘Picking my subs I wanted a different type of variety’
come on lads stop all the name calling, your begining to sound boring!
instead of slagging off our, yes our manchester united players, lets get behind the team.
for fucks sake we are level on points top of the prem with our best form to come.
lets roar the reds on, show your fucking surport…………………I for one can smell number 19.
believe fucking believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AIG – We weren’t that much better when he came on tbh.
We are going around and around and around
The Rooney effect – equal to vertigo
The Berba thing isn’t surprising is it? That’s the longest he’s ever gone without scoring a goal for us. People were calling for his head last week, so it only makes sense that someone would get a shot. Macheda didn’t take his chance, but Hernandez certainly did.
@AIG
Lol, and not a lot changed since he came on did it?
That’s fergie saying he hasn’t been good enough lately, which to be fair, he hasn’t been at the races, these last few games.
Hi Scott – “much ado about Rooney,” perhaps things will work out in the end…?As for now,I see the boy in such a different light.It pains me to see a would-be transfer [at his own discretion] tag along with motives other than devotion to the course of the club.
Gone are the days when history and prestige were on the agenda list:How much(money)is enough ?My post is merely speculation of course and without a solid foundation of creedence – or is it ?
In hindsight let’s swallow this bitter pill and hope for a successful season which I’m sure is bearing fruit in the current squad.Let’s keep fingers crossed that there will be no more of this sort of non-sense for the remainder of the campaign.
Always United/United Always,
NR.
@costas, willie
it did have an effect . Wigan lost 2 players as soon as he came on
AIG – Yeah, the ref ruined the game, but you can’t jump in with two feet these days. The first sending off was a no brainer, the lad was already on a yellow, so you have to be careful, which he wasn’t.
Anyone else notice that alot of our players have been slipping on the OT turn in recent games.
Vidic almost gave away a goal in the opening minutes and there have been several cases were Evans and Evra have as well. Whats up with that?
@willie
cant blame the ref. first sending off was a clear 2nd yellow and for the 2nd, Rodallega may have won the ball but when you go in with both feet and make contact it is a red, however minimal the contact may be
Lets look at the facts here! I was not at the game. If you were shame on YOU.
United fans are holding on to a forlorn hope, look at his season stats as far as goal scoring goes.
He has corrupted United. its wage structure previously 42% now 50%, the Jews will not tolerate this.
They control costs.
A few of my mates that still go!(Idiots) say the biggest applause was for Paul, and indeed the first chant for him.
He had the ideal opportunity with 34 minutes of the game to play to score! Ha Ha HA. No he does not its down to a humble unassuming youngster.
Rooneys record as we all know in open play no goals in since March, £ 200 thousand per week, you are having a laugh. Sign Lionel Messi for less. We dont have the money to buy top class talent.
The point being because of the Glazer we hang onto any “saviour” I dont think he is that. He has brought the club into disrepute and slurred the greatest living manager of all time.
Dont you believe when Sir Alex says ” he was a silly boy, blah blah” that he is not engineering his removal. He will be out of Old Trafford in the summer.
Onto Ibrox……….I wont shout him down thats self defeating but to support him it aint in my agenda.
The crysalis of this is clear remove the Glazer.
See you at Ibrox.
FletchTHEMAN – Watering the pitch far too much imo.
wheres anderson?is he injured?
@Ando08
on his way out of the club soon.
RedScot
I applaud you man
Remove the Glazer most def but Rooney is the centre point of all this
You are right though don’t shout him down but that doesn’t mean that he has to be supported.
Next summer will be so interesting to say the least
Goodnight reds – stuck with a cold and off to bed.
@AIG
So Rooney is a luck charm. Oh well. At least he is useful in some fashion.
The ref was correct in both cases. Wigan probably figured that the best way to avoid another thrashing would be to turn this into a kick boxing match. And that’s the price you pay.
all the name calling and the booing everywhere. it will be interesting to see what happens when wayne rooney returns to his pure best. let me see if you’ll all boo him. i didn’t cheer but i clapped for him. and for those who decided to cheer well it’s also good. it shows that you have a forgiving heart quickly and fast. he fucked up and we were all angry but constantly dwelling on it will get you NOWHERE. cuz he is a united player and because of his importance to this club he will start EVERY game he is fit enough to play in. LIVE WITH IT!!! or don’t support the club. but booing him is just pointless and useless. my opinion. i hope rooney gets back to his very best for the sake of himself and for the sake of this club and with time , i will find a place in my heart to accept him back but for now just put in the games cuz you are important to our championship cause.
M.E.N. has a piece on Anders Lindegard, the new keeper prospect. Wish people would let players get their own aura. Comparisons with ex players never does anyone any justice.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1371825_lindegaard_can_follow_in_schmeichel_footsteps_at_united
@MG
Goodnight mate. I hope you feel better tomorrow.
fat loser
@ MG, Need a night nurse! lol
seriously I would like to know more about this TARP fund intoduced bye George Bush, the money which is now feeding into society.To be used bye reputable citizens and companies at a reasonable rate and terms. Which in JPMORGAN Chase, who is the holder of the Pik loans, exactly is.
As I always think…… you swim with sharks you will get bitten.
They dont love United like you and me
Nite lads….. Keep it Red or you are fucking Dead…. till they are gone.
Great to see Wayne take to field again today.
I have to say it but so many posts here are just plain naive. Rooney clearly never wanted to leave in the first place. It was all agent and contract negotiation. Why would anyone blame the lad for trying to get the best contract he could? In the end he was willing to stay for well less than he could get elsewhere on.
So why the hell would Scot want to drag this all up again? Serousily, whats the point? What good will in it do?
One of the very worst posts you’ve every made, Scott. Grow up!
Ronaldo scored a hat trick for real madrid
@AIG Yeah mate. Rossi scored for Villareal as well. Ex United strikers did well. Actually prefer the results closer to home. Foster had a great day to lay the Chavs low. Good day for United, old and new.
So Scott you’re disappointed in our fans for giving our best player a good reception on his return from injury after he has signed a 5 year contract? What a complete and utter pile of shit. It seems like you enjoy being a stubborn bitter bastard. It was the same 2 years ago with Ronaldo. Except this time Rooney has actually made a commitment by signing a new contract. Is it the first time one of our best players thought about leaving? Of course not. Rio did, Keane did it and what about when Cantona walked out on the club while still in his prime? As much as you seem to enjoy encouraging our own fans to turn their backs on our best players, you might be better off trying to get over yourself and move on. Id like to see some proof of these talks with City that you keep banging on about as well. I could be wrong but as far as I can see its just a story that might be true but that no one can actually prove
“I can’t imagine I’ll ever sing his song again. Very sad.” – the statement of a self-righteous prick… apparently nobody has ever forgiven STR…. ever haha
United>petty bloggers
the question is will he get to his best? or realistically when will he get to his best
Great post MUFC WL 105!
I wouldn’t doubt the Stretford will have had informal talks with City ( and anyone else who will answer a phone) but there’s absoultely nothing conecting Wazza with any statement on or off the record suggesting he’d ever consider going there.
On a day when we win and Chelski and Arse lose, our top player makes a return and you get this negative shit??!!
I don’t get it.
scott isn’t a prick, he’s just honest and sticks to his values… if someone doesn’t like what he has to say about rooney than why fucking stop by???
aint it ironic, ronaldo was a complete dick in summer 2008, yet fans are booing rooney roday. Talk about calling the kettle black. This could be a huge chance to overtake liverpools title record and we have a phew idiots like Raizzen.
Every single fickle cunt who cheered/cheers rooney’s name (ESP louder than scholes) deserves something bad to happen to them. He took the piss out of YOU. Without apology. Idiots.
I want to know if shitty was in talks with rooneys agent, why havent united reported shitty to the FA
i dont agree with people blaming his agent…no, the fault is 100% on rooney.. he is not a fucking child to let his agent determined his future at the first place..so he should face the wrath of the OT faithful..FFS even his performance today was shit..im glad chicharito stole the headlight from him..
Hernandez since joining United: 7 goals
Rooney in the last half year for United: 1 goal
nough said.
but at least he proved that he still can’t score goals.
and btw he’s 25 years old and responsible for himself and his representatives, ffs.
Jesus we even have people on here now taking pleasure from the fact Rooney didnt score today. Fuckin hell.
@ Dave Mack, spot on. We’ve drawn level with Chelsea at the top yet the main thing from today is that our fans are wrong to cheer our best player.
@ Wednesdayx, are you trying to say if I dont agree with every word Scott says then I shouldnt come on here? Whats the point in having a blog if you have everyone has to agree? I take it you’re in the 90% of people on here who wait to hear Scotts opinion and then just jump on board.
Just noticed that we’ve scored the same amount of goals as Chelsea in the league. Didn’t see that one coming at the start of the season. They have conceded 6 less goals though.
Zelh – and how many games has rooney played compared to hernandes
Rooney went from being on of my favorite players to just one of many players at the club. What I mean is that he is now to me just one of many players, not a favorite. But I don’t like to dwell on this contract thing. What he did was wrong but it’s behind us now and we should get on with it. I’m not saying we should give him some special treatment but we should support our team, our manager and the players who wear the shirt.
I can’t stand the media attention Rooney always gets. It’s usually negative and not helpful at all. Sometimes it would be better if he was Scottish or something.
Leave it be – let’s focus on the team now. Rooney is just one of many players at this club. If he can contribute to the team then I’m happy.
Since he’s flavour of the month, I think we should sign El Mander.
Yes Costas… it’s great to be level on points and goals with them considering we really haven’t got close to top gear yet and still have Wazza to get back to the world class form of last year.
I always say that as long as United are within six points of the leaders with 10 games left we’ll give it a real go. Being level with them now has to give the team a big boast of belief re No.19!!
fitb – Rooney played 11 games.
Hernandez played 16 games.
Costas
Nice to see you can still ‘notice’ stuff ………… hahahaha
Sorry my friend I am wasted and needed a laugh!
SPOT ON SCOTT…. absolutely love your post…. i’d rather lose trophies but not CLASS…. that’s what makes me proud to be a United fan…. not silverware, but coz we have CLASS….. it’s disappointing…. the lad doesn’t deserve cheers unless he scores…. and he doesn’t deserve jeers… coz he wears the United shirt. All the fans who’re reading this, don’t do either…. those who did this left little difference between us and the Chelskis, Scousers & Shitties of this world… Side note: Well done Spurs.
@ fergie is the boss
I believe United haven’t reported shitty to the FA because there weren’t any talks
the question is if we can hit top gear in time.
dunno if rooney will get back to last years form.
Zelh – wrong, rooney played 7 games, hernandes 16
fitb – i said in the last half year and i counted the games since the last half year. he played 7 games this season.
@Dave Mack
True that. I always said that the other two would have to make big mistakes and that’s what’s happened here. Not too worried about the scoring. I just hope we stop leaking goals because it has cost us quite a few point already. This league is unlike anything we’ve seen in the last 10 years. The champions might gather less than 80 points.
@Cedars
It wasn’t that hard. I was just looking at the table, lol. Arsenal have the same goals too by the way. And Bolton are 4th. Can’t believe I am seeing that!
United couldn’t prove any talks took place any way, hard to prove hear say. No doubt Stretford was pulling Rooneys strings, but then he allowed that to happen.
I will say this, if fans can cheer ronaldo back in september 2008 like nothing happened, why are fans bitching they cheered rooney. And dont say because he had a dream of playing for madrid that makes it right, because he supported benfica has a kid growing up
Costas – I can see a 2002/03 scanerio hapening here, because beetween august to november 2002 before the newcastle game united were awful
Think some posters here need anger management classes, Jack Nicholson is having an open day and you are all invited ………
Ronaldo’s team was Benfica, but his dream was to play for Madrid. Also, he did get the silent treatment for a while, his song wasn’t sung for a while, but once he started scoring, that was enough for some fans.
MUFC WL105 I’m talking about the rooney threads that he’s been putting up, Scott couldn’t be more correct about them and you need to get a clue mate!
Was it Benfica? Always thought it was SL?
I was at OT today, and I thought that Rooney got a better reception than many people (including himself) may have expected,
Anyway, a win is a win but I was very disappointed with the display. We still do not look like the real United. Only after the introduction of Scholes, we started to improve a bit. I cannot believe we failed to score more than once while having 2 more players on the pitch.
ronaldo was different kettle of fish to this scouse cunt! ronnie was truely world class! this cunt thinks he is…..
Dave Mack – Rooney was 100% in talks with City. If you’re in denial over that, fair enough, but it is the truth.
Scott the Red – if that was true united would hqave reported shitty they did not, so there were no talks
ashflash – SHUT THE FUCK UP, go reprogramme your memory and go back to summer 2008. Hey ronaldo was in talks with madrid since january 2008. Ronaldo also disrespected the club, and the irony is united has a club has disrespected the fans with price hikes and the famous cup scheme, which was more disgraceful than what rooney and ronaldo have ever done.
FITB – Not between United and City, Rooneys agent was in discussions with City, it’s up to you whether you believe that or not.
willierednut – its still tapping up, his agent probably talked with loads of clubs. What scott was saying is identical with how madrid done things with ronaldo back in 2008 I do not see any difference
All clubs do it, we’re no different.
willierednut – I am not defending united, but allot of fans on ROM and united fans in general need to get off their high and mighty horse, and realise we have tapped players up and benifited from players pissing their fans off to come to united, rooney and ferdinand a perfect example, look at berbatov and we were reported by spurs.
Not a surprise reaction at all given the people who attend games. Too many day trippers who don’t have a clue about the team or our club’s history and tradition.
FITB – I’m telling you it happened, if you don’t want to believe that, that is your choice.
To get a club done for tapping up you have to have evidence that it has gone on. Tapping up happens ALL the time but how many clubs get done for it? To have evidence which proves it has gone on (pictures of meetings? Recorded phone conversations) is very difficult.
Rooney was “tapped up” by City. His agent wanted him to go there and Rooney was happy to go along with it, which is why he released a statement telling the world he wanted to leave United. Do you release a statement saying you want to leave the club in October if you haven’t already sorted out a club to join? Of course not.
What the hell is this fucking “forgiveness” bullshit?
We’re the Red Devils not the Red Jesuses.
Errr Red Jesii?
Errr Red Jesuss?
Yeah. Whatever. And that bald fucking potatohead needs to be flogged off in Jan. It’s not like we are short on a new generation of forwards wanting to push through into the first team. I say let them have the opportunity and peddle the scouse whore off to someone who’ll cough up good coin for him.
Missed a sitter?
you, being the Berbatov fan are having a fucking laugh here man, will have to stop reading this blog if the views are gonna be so biased and honestly retarded.
No point booing him……I still say he should have fucked off for what he did but now he’s here we HAVE to get behind him…simple!
Level on points now….who would have thought it eh?
I can’t see why we don’t forgive him, I mean we forgave Germany after 26minutes after WW2. The fact of the matter is we are all fickle, we need our heros because our lives are so fucking pathetic and dull, so Rooney Rooney it is then. Only thing is I have to start supporting England again after their horse shit performances because when it comes down to it it must be the same rule for all. Come on Sir John Terry all is forgiven, we need you back or we wont make Euro 2012. Gerrard Gerrard.
What a load of crap.
Rooneys a cunt end of and he is and always will be in my eyes the filling of a Steven Gerrard and John Terry sandwich.
Gone too far well dont like it dont read it!!
Rooney Rooney Rooney, you wankers!
It should be LRHG.
i’d boo rooney, and as i’ve said before, the success of the team isn’t worth a fig if we’re going to sell ourselves out and allow ourselves to be ruled by the whim of pathetic scousers.
as a real madrid banner once said: “For you, whores and money. For us, repression and indignation.”
you’re fucking deluional if you’re prepared to forget the whole contract saga with Rooney. You loved him, you cheered for him, and now you want to pretend that he never wanted to leave. He did, and will always be a fucking worthless scouse whore for it.
The difference with Ronaldo is that he’s a foreign player and you don’t expect him to think of United as the biggest club in the world for him. And, he never said he’d stay for his whole career. And he didn’t come out an criticise his teammates and the club. Oh, and when he wanted to leave he still played out of his skin for us.
Oh yeah, and Ronaldo didn’t want to leave for fucking City!
@callum……I’ll never forget it,thats for sure.He treated us like shite and deserves every boo he gets but what can we do???
He’s here with us again and we have to take it on the chin……..as you said even ronnie didnt treat us like that.
It wont EVER be forgotten though
@Kevos
Scott’s not defending nor denying what Berba’s done, he’s just pointing out the fact that Rooney’s missed a sitter. if you can’t see that you’re blind. talk about biased. what on earth does Berba have to do with this post?
@Callum
The Ronaldo foreign thing definetly comes into it, he was never going to stay at United for his entire career. For me personally as well, when he came back from injury, he was the World Player of the year at the time, a player that was so unbelievably special that I couldn’t help but cheer him on. Rooney on the other hand, I really fail to see what he has done to deserve 180k a week.
I Want rooney Out!!!!
nah rooney should not have been booed in my opinion. he is the best player at this football club. he is a really important piece in the championship puzzle. and he is always willing to break a leg for this club. how can anyone overlook what that man did for us last yr? look he fucked up but he should be forgiven. if you want others to forgive you then LEARN TO FORGIVE!!! he is still a member of the team and he should be SUPPORTED every step of the way. he will come good eventually and i’ll see how many people decide to boo him then. best of luck rooney.
and the ronaldo issue is also the same as this. people say that he did not treat us like crap but his intetions are really insulting. telling us that he always wanted to play for madrid as a boy blah blah blah then why didn’t he reject our offers for a chance to join madrid eventually? that means he is basically saying that he used us as a stepping stone on his way to achieving his ultimate dream of playing for madrid. in my mind that is very insulting. but i didn’t see anyone getting on his nuts. why?
scott, i am with you on this one. You cant forget the backstabbing ,the cunt did to fergie. He openly said that our players weren’t good enough. He was willing to join city & only backed down after the fans started to bang on his gate. The bumper pay rise also helped. He is an insult to players like giggs who love this club more than anything.
Also how can you compare ronaldo & rooney. Ronaldo wasnt english was he? He was always going back closer to his home. Even before he became a superstar man utd channel had an interview with him in which he clearly stated that madrid was his dream club. He never questioned our ambition & when he was leaving he played his heart out for us. Remember when he was subbed ,he wanted to be on the pitch. Also remember the final against barca. He was like a man possessed.
In contrast what has rooney done. Sulking always, lying to make fergie look like a villain.
I will cheer when he scores simply because he is a utd player. Other than that he can kill himself & i wont give a fuck…
no fergie is the boss. the idiot is u. Ronaldo didn’t come up with a statement belittling his team mates, the gaffer and the fans all in one statement and not to mention ahead of our crucial CL game.
And the fans can respect boyhood clubs over resorting to petty tricks to get a pay rise. thats just how smart the fans are compared to u and your revered shallow Shrek.
Whether the statement about the squad being not good enough was eal, or simply being his agent’s puppet, it simply means his love and respect for United isn’t good enough. To say that to the press, instead of privately to the boss(es), shows one who doesn’t think very much. SAF held a press conference and released facts by chronicling the overview of the negotiation leading up to that day. He could’ve easily said “we have some concerns and would be discussing them at the table soon” but no, he decides to (perhaps listen to his agent and) release a statement of intent to break relations with all involved with United.
He is now just a player who plays for United – the only one in that category. The only one whom I don’t really care if he comes onto the pitch. Unfortunately, his one statement has just negated his 5 years of good service. Time for him to build up brownie points again. The fact that he has renewed means nothing – it’ll only mean something when he apologises publicly and gives his heart for the next 5 years. Otherwise, let’s see if the sequel starts again in June.
United says
Rooney on the other hand, I really fail to see what he has done to deserve 180k a week.
First of all who said he is earning 180k a week,Man dont write something rubbish.Rooney is a great player.Scoring 34 goals in one season isnt a easy job.Now you would say because he was given with so many beautiful assists thats why he scored but i say 34 goals is a mark of a great striker .
Sorry to say but many fans here are scotts ass licker.Yeah agreed rooney behaved like a dick but both club and sir alex has moved on so why cant we.We only say no one is bigger than our club so now why are we fans are acting bigger than club.
If it was berba yesterday who had played like rooney scott would be posting great game by berba.Dont think that i hate berba ,I love every united player and berba is one of my favourites.I am not supporting rooney but i say if you dont like that lad then be qutie rather than saying something rubbish.Someone posted above hernandez is a better player than rooney ,Are you serious?This shows what kind of knowledge we fans have.You could say hernandez is a better person than rooney but as a player chicho will be a great player but now he is learning.
Its a pity that scott you are writing a anti rooney blog rather than celebrating that we are in the top of the league with chelski after such a struggle.PATHETIC.
UNITED>SIR ALEX>ROONEY>And of course much bigger than some ass licking fans.
United forever.
He’s not half the player that Ronnie is. How can a player who’s so inconsistent demand such as astronomical wage is beyond me. Until he starts whipping it in and prove he can carry the responsibility that is shouldered on him, I’ll feel indifferent to him.
I loved sir alex,s last interview in which he said time has changed very much.Players have also changed.
You know if you analyze the interview closely he has indirectly reffered to rooney,s case.Gone are those days when plaayers for their club rather than for money.Now we cant expect players like Robson,giggs,Scholes(My favourite),Nevilles,roy keane etc who played with a passion for thier clubs.Money wasnt even in their mind.But now we cant expect players lik ethat.It has become a business.Thats why i wont mind rooney or any other player just doing their business,Win u s trophy.
Days of 70′s and 80;’s are gone and we have to accept that.I havent seen a current madrid player praising thier club they are just doing business.Hell their manager and thier best player talk more about us rather than about thier club.Time has changed and the current players would have same attitude of ronaldo,rooney etc.
Gone are those days when players played* for thier club.
Sorry missed played.
UNITED FOREVER
rooney will be sold just a matter of time – 5 year contract to extract some value
Basing on how he player, as an employee of the club, he did ok, need to get few more games to find his feet. Although, he’s been easily knocked of the ball recently, not just against Wigan, but for the last few months. Need more games. Ok, that’s it, no more talking extra about Wayne.
On Park, I actually thought he was great. Park for the record, is a hardwoker but he doesn’t have any exceptional talent. And that why, if he’s productive due to all his hardwork, he’s brilliant. I’ll have him in the team anyday, but one thing, please please Park, when you’re being swarmed by the opposition, pass the ball please.
And i did read in the previous threats that Carrick was bad. I was apparently watching a different game then, cos i thought he was great. Fletcher was on the other hand, terrible by his standards. His work rate is great, but he uncharacterisitically gives the ball away so many times, and 90% of the times in which he gives it away, it leads to a threatening goal opportunity for the other team. Come on Fletch, get your head straight. I thought Rafael was great. And oh yes, Nani’s corners beat the first man! And Chicharito’s movement was great, and really he and Berbatov’s our best strikers in terms of threatening the goal, although Berba hasnt taken his chances recently.
Maybe Berba only scores against the traditional top 4. And that too, hattricks. I don’t mind. Dec 13 and 19 coming up Berba!
Not a fan of reminiscing the past, but just imagine. Had we won Fulham, and Everton and West Brom. We’d be 6 points clear. Damn.
@ash
Fuck u. If we dont want it, we wont move on. The cunt was in talks with Citeh, fuckin Citeh and Berbs choose United over City even when he was offered more. My loyalty will always be with Berbs.
@ash
Look i get your point. But you honestly believe this is just how any other player would behave. If he had wanted to go he should have said that much earlier. Instead just 1 week before the season starts he says he wont sign the contract. He lies about his manager, disrespects the club & the players. He is a english player playing for the biggest english team for fuck sake. If he had wanted out he should have done that the right way. The club is bigger than any player. If he cant respect the club why the fuck should we respect him. Trophies are not everything. He cheats on his wife & then on the club. How can we forget all these and love him as if nothing has happened?
devilnani
I never said respect rooney or love rooney.I said if we dont like him we can stay quite.See if sir alex himself has said that rooney doesnt deserve to be in the club and he will be leaving the club then there is a point to jeer him but when our own sir alex has moved on and rooney is still playing for us,why should we boo him.I myself has lost respect for rooney but i trust in sir alex.
Mate dont you think we should be happy with the fact that we are in the top of the league rather talking something baseless.Booing is not a solution.
@Josepf
You can fuck yourself.You dont have any kind of decency.If rooney had chosen city he wouldnt have signed for us.U idiot.
@KingOfStretfordEnd
I agree, but we also picked up more points than we deserved against Sunderland, Villa and Wolves, so I’m hoping the ‘dropping-silly-points’ phase is behind us and we’re back to the United of old.
@Ash
I won’t boo him but i won’t sing his name either. Yes, he signed a contract with us but that was only after telling us that he was too good for us and arm-twisting the gaffer into doubling his wages. And honestly, when he said he wanted to leave for a more ‘ambitious’ club, where do you think he wanted to go? Blackpool?
Wazza was my hero-now he’s just another player. The booing was cheap,I admit, but so was the cheering for that matter.
@Ash
I was comparing him to Ronaldo and concluded that in relation he wasn’t worth the money. Now if you want to argue that Rooney is even half the player Ronaldo is, be my guest, you wont succeed
Its the club that we supported as children. Its the club we watched with our fathers.
If you dont wanna play for the club anymore then fine, move on. Why then disrespect a club that to us hold such fond memories ? And on top of that disrespecting your team mates who ran to you when you scored a goal and pat you on your shoulders when the goings were hard ? (And I won’t delve anymore than have been went into about how he disrespected SAF)
That I found very very hard to forgive. Yes I wont boo his name whatsoever and of course I’d be happy if he scores goals for United but that’s about it. He’s one of the players. And ironically the only ‘one of the players’ of all other United players.
As mediocre as this team goes compared to the greats of yesteryears I find their attitude and teamwork endearing. And Scouse faggots obviously don’t need to understand any of the sentiment I have for the club.
And neither do their supporters.
TBH the explanation that you don’t say you want to leave while not having a place to go is pretty strong. But life is not always about black and white. Maybe i am being naive and deluded but i won’t believe in it unless proved wrong. I prefer to stay a bit possitive because we have enough of the shit in life.
Joseph@…. but Wazza don’t sulk like Berba and blame every fucker when it don’t go right , also Wazza works a lot harder than Berba…..
players like Berbatov and Anderson will not stay at United as they seem not to put a shift in during gamers. Berbatov, although extremely talented can do it, as can Anderson, when they want to, and turn in in supreme performances but when they don’t fancy putting them selves round a bit, their game is woeful. Wazza on the other hand will always bust a gut and SAF recognizes a trier.
i never thought that Wazza was going off to City and agree with Tonka Norris that it was his pimp trying to screw as much out of United as he could.
Knobhead Zelh. I went back through your posts through yesterdays game…. appears you aint much of a fan just like to moan a lot . Still trying to justify your anti-Rooney rantings by comparing Wazza to Chico but the argument wont wash as Wazza will be SAF’s number 1 choice when fit ( as he is still returning from injury) and Berba and Chico will fight it out for the other place
FOR ROONEY TO DOUBT THE AMBITION OF OUR CLUB AND OUR MANAGER, WAS DISGRACEFUL. CHICHARITO CERTAINLY SHOWED HIM WHAT TYPE OF MEDIOCRE PLAYERS THE WIZARD HAS BROUGHT TO THE CLUB.
I STILL FEEL THAT ROONEY WILL BE MOVED ON, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
HE WILL NEVER REGAIN THAT SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ONCE OWNED.
SCHOLES,GIGGS AND NEVILLE- WE WILL NEVER THE LIKE OF THEM AGAIN.
Ronaldo>Rooney, simple as.
FITB.
Its Getting ridiculous mate. Ill give you reasons why what Ronaldo isnt as bad as Rooney
1. Ronaldo wasnt English and was going to go closer to home one day
2. Ronaldo never kissed the badge
3. Ronaldo never said ‘i want to stay here forever’ or anything likd that
4. Ronaldo wanted to leave but he was true to his word that he would leave only after helping us win the CL which he did. Could have left in 07
5. Despite knowing he was going to leave in 09 Ronaldo never came out mid season and he wants to leave. That would have affected the whole team, rooney did it 2 hrs before a CL game
6. Ronaldo never doubted Fergie or United’s ambition which indirectly was an insult to all the players.
7. Rooney is not on the same planet as Rooney, not yet anyways
i am NOT saying Ronaldo went about in the right way but what Rooney has done is far worse
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/11/15/cos-psychic-loses-to-the-republik-of-mancunia-and-bbcs-jacqui-oatley/
@united
When did i say rooney is a better player than ronaldo.Man again you are posting something ridiculous.What i am saying rooney is not a bad player.Cmonn how many strikers score 34 goals in a season.Ronaldo is a special player but whats the point in now praising him he is not our player.
I completely agree rooney has totally disrepected the club but everyone in their life do make mistakes.Some do small mistakes and some like rooney do a stupid mistake. But booing wont help the team.Our goal is to win trophies and win the #19th.
a.) Rooney’s concerns were legitimate. We were so close to the title last year and a little bit of freshening up could have confirmed the title this year. Look at the table and tell me that isn’t true. We would be clean out of sight of the rest of the league with two classy additions. Our football is so stale its untrue. I’m not talking results, with the foundation of Old Trafford and Sir Alex, results will never be poor, but look at the quality of football and tell me we look like a European heavyweight.
b.) I think in the future it will come out that Wayne was trying to strong arm the club into signing some players, he was badly advised but i believe his intentions could have been good. As far as City being his choice, that is just speculative bullshit, there is not one shred of evidence of that other than Rooney costing a lot and City having a lot- circumstantial.
Scott and others – let’s please avoid turning Rooney into another Glazer-ish issue. What I mean is this seems to be another episode that can polarze supporters. He made his mistakes and in a corner of our hearts we will probably never feel the same way about him. Having said that, he still wears red, and can be a critical part of our campaign. What the future will bring, only God and SAF know – but till then, let us please hold our horses. We are at an exciting part of the season, hopefully we get some reinforcements in Jan – let’s get nehind the lads. The Rooney of old was never bigger than United, so why should we be creating such a fuss about him now? And as for the spectators, ohh well, you cant control everybody, can you? SO long as their behavior is not completely out of order, let’s move on. There’s a league or two to be won. FOCUS.
park lost the ball like a bazillion times and so does rooney
the difference here is park had an assist but rooney missed a sitter
park>rooney
I still feel that even if he had concerns about the squad( Oh no, we’re bottom of the legue now!) he should have made in private. To the man in charge. And please, he’s not a baby and he’s should have used something called brains. Unless if he doesn’t have them, then the whole saga would be invalid. He risked the team spirit, something that United thrives on, and that was what that absolutely irritated me. I think it’s spot on, whatever you’ve written Scott.
@dela
yep, I really hope we’ll be the United of old from. Winning. Scraping it if needed. Still remember that performance against Derby county a few season ago. Heavy rain. Everyone thought we would thrash them. But one nil was enough, and it’s these kind of games that determines Champions.
KingOfStretfordEnd – We beat Derby 4-1 under a heavy rain at OT i think when Ronaldo dived in order to score 4th goal.
1-0 was away to Derby and we scored late. Derby were at the bottom of the table.
RedScot says:
Lets look at the facts here! I was not at the game. If you were shame on YOU.
Oh cheers, 30 years of attending, I feel so dirty, im glad im not a mate of yours then I would be an idiot too!
@only one
Park>rooney
You must be a immature guy who is still waiting for your brain to develope fully.
If you are a real united supporter you would be talking something sensual.Rooney is playing almost after a month and played only for 30 mins and you are saying he wasnt great.Dude everyone here is angry with rooney(including me).But dont say something rubbish.
Hell i am enjoying the fact that we are in top of the league and here some mindless guys are talking bullshit things.Whether you like or hate rooney its a fact that he will be playing for us this season because sir alex said so.So get on with it and start supporting united.
This has all the potential to become a far more divisive issue than our club’s ownership – which incidentally isn’t relevant to this thread (you know who you are)
I didn’t get to the game yesterday, but I wouldn’t have shown any emotion good or bad, because for me, he is a non-entity. He doesn’t exist.
Some of performances haven’t been the best during his absence, but the team spirit has looked tight.
Up to you whether you believe this or not, but I have it on hugely reliable authority that Cathy Ferguson despises Rooney for what be did and the effect it bad on her husband. I cannot tell you where this came from but it’s first hand and massively reliable.
My mind was already made up on the issue but this sealed the deal for me.
Totally, utterly and irretrievably unforgiven. Anyone who thinks otherwise should reassess. Or maybe when it comes to United and our Manager, some of us care more deeply than others.
Cue the abuse.
I couldn’t give a shit what Rooney did/didn’t do because the fact of the matter is we need our best players on the pitch for United to be successful, that has to be the priority, and he is definitely one of those, without him and Scholes we look ordinary at best – I know Rooney has been bobbins for while now but he still isn’t fit by the looks of things, yeah he lost possesion easily but Park does that every week and gets treated like a fucking hero.
I have never booed our team. When we lost 4-1 at home to Liverpool I stayed until the end and clapped our team off. When we lost 5-0 away to Chelski all those years ago I clapped the team off.
I think that proves that I am not fickle but I cannot clap Rooney, it hurts deeply that he was prepared to chuck all the love and adulation we held for him away and sign for Citeh because of the £s.
Morning fellas. Lets get behind him on the pitch, but forgive and forget? Hell no. That’s the dippers’ job every time Stevie Me feels Liverpool don’t match his “ambitions”. The thing that I haven’t seen mentioned a lot is that there was a mixed reaction. So it’s not like OT welcomed him back as if nothing had changed.
As for his performance, wasn’t expecting anything different. He’s been out of action for over a month and he wasn’t firing on all cylinders before that either. it’s a long road ahead for him. If he starts hitting form it will probably be around the Christmas period.
@Paul H
Totally agree, good post pal.
i dont understand wht people cheered him. i dont think booing was appropiate either. he should have been greeted with silence or just cheers for scholes. do you think rooney will be a united legend now? im starting to think we should sell him to real madrid. i love scholes, i love giggs, i love hernandez too, but rooney i dont love anymore. and i dont care if he goes. who could be get in his place?…well alexis sanchez and benzema, or even aguero. the only sad thing is that he is a british talent which is rare, but i dint like him anymore. he fucked over his wife with prostitutes and fucked over the club and the fans with his agent. …thanks mate, ….but no thanks
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@Macheda is GOD
Is taking the piss out of teams for not holding onto leads really appropriate with our current form in that area!
If I was there yes I boo him. No body on this planet is bigger than our beloved MAN UTD !!!!!
@Paul H
If Rooney hadn’t bottled the move, it could have cost us a fortune.
Possibly would have been considered as SAF’s biggest fail.
I was fearful that it would initiate a decline in Sir Alex self-confidence, and ultimately cost us the greatest manager ever.
As it turned out, the gaffer again showed his worth, saved the day as only he could.
Booing Rooney is unacceptable.
Disgracing Sir Alex is unforgivable.
If Judas had accepted 40 pieces of silver from Jesus, would we trust him?
bchilds atleast we didn’t fuck up and lost!
Guys, watching the Sunday Supplement on skysports. And suddenly i understood that we were poor yesterday to be honest. Mates sitting near me were a bit worried and i kept saying that we would win the game regardless of the level of our play. But as the times went by in the back of my mind i started to get worried myself remembering West Brom game etc. When Wigan were reduced to 9 men and Fergie made that Little Pea substitution i understood what the manager is all about and it is to massively improve our goal difference but we failed the mission and the issue isn’t resolved yet.
We were all over the place against Villa’s rookey midfield. Those are all the worrying signes but because of the different standarts this term in the premiership we are joint top.
The main thing that makes us so possitive about our chances is that ability to get the results regardless of the level of play, our history and our team spirit. Rooney’s remarks i think strengthened this area even more.
So believe and start killing the teams more.
PS. Our starting line-up was a bit of a surprise to me but i was delighted Fergie is starting to give chances to the players like Macheda and Obertan and at the end of the day we gonna look back and say those guys were given chances. Just take them, lads.
Don’t boo your own. Simple. I was embarrassed when I heard people booing yesterday, at least the people around me gave him applause. A muted respect is what he should get. Let’s not forget HE DECIDED TO STAY unless people have forgot that. So what he gets paid £18k a week – Barry gets £130k and he’s a useless cunt.
I’d like to see a +/- of everything that rooney has done for the club,
in my books, what he did recently doesn’t cancel out all the great things he has done wearing a United jersey.
I know it’s hard to forgive someone when they’ve crossed you, but when you put it all in perspective, he has put in the yards everytime he plays for United, and his recent actions can’t have undone it all.
seriously, he hasn’t gone (yet) and he has apologised to his manager and team mates.
what else do we want from him?!
Rooney to City was all but a done deal. FACT!
He only changed his mind after the group of United fans arrived at his house. FACT!
I understand that Paul Stretford was also going to be targeted by the same group.
It really doen’t matter if you believe that or not – it’s up to you all to believe what you want to believe.
STR has his information absolutely bang on, no matter how uncomfortable that sits with any of us.
Rooney cannot and will not come out and say he never really intended to leave etc….he can’t!
Having made a decision to leave some time ago, it has been reflected by his poor form all through this season and who knows how much longer it will continue.
SAF has played a blinder with his handling of the situation. Master of spin!
The only thing i disagree with SAF about is his recent statement to the press that they will never find out what really happened with Rooney.
The old adage “It’ll all come out in the wash” is still true. IT WILL!
Manchester is still a small place and there are enough people here who know full well what went on.
Now is not the time for the truth, not for United’s sake.
But, it’ll come out, nothing more certain.
I don’t blame or have an issue with those of you who continue to cheer for him.
I certainly would never advocate booing anyone who wears our shirt.
Knowing what i do, i cannot cheer for him.
When you take a look back on STR’s many many posts about Rooney, they are obviously very complimentary and even proud of his devotion to the shirt, the club.
It must have taken something extraordinary for STR to change his views.
STR obviously has the same knowledge.
For the whole story to come out at this stage will hurt the club, and as we will all agree. the club is the most important thing.
I was going to be neutral, when the names were being read out prior to kick-off I merely clapped and gave a “Waaay!” for Rooney as I do for all players.
But as soon as the, “Once a blue, always a cu**” chants started, I just couldn’t help but feel how wrong that was, booing your own just isn’t on. So I started singing a Rooney song with a few of the blokes next to me. Got a few glares, and when you put it into the context of someone like Paul Scholes it does seem wrong to be cheering Rooney, but it’s certainly better than booing the man just because he’s thought about his career rather than behaving like a fan.
Morning Reds
I think we’ve exhausted the Rooney topic – we need a cheer up – a United friend sent me this nicked from RedCafe – What a fucking laugh – Enjoy – and sorry to be off topic.
Why NELSON MANDELA is to blame for Liverpool’s 20 year failure to win the league
Liverpool FC’s inability to win the league title since 1990 has been blamed on various people over the years, including David Moores; Rick Parry; Graeme Souness; Roy Evans; Gerard Houllier; Tom Hicks; George Gillett; Rafa Benitez, and most recently, Roy Hodgson. The truth is, however, that none of them are responsible. The real blame for the club’s abject failure to bring home the trophy Bill Shankly famously called ‘our bread and butter’ lies solely at the feet of one man: former President of South Africa and anti-apartheid activist, Nelson Mandela.
After considering the startling confluence of events that have inexorably led me to this conclusion, Liverpool fans will be forced to rethink their ingrained views about the club’s league demise over the last 20 years. As you will see, Mr Mandela’s negative influence on the club simply cannot be denied, and I will illustrate that with cold, hard facts:
* In 1959, Bill Shankly took control of a club that was languishing in the English second division. At this time, Mr Mandela was a free man.
* In 1962, Mr Mandela was arrested and imprisoned after being on the run for 17 months. The same year, Liverpool won promotion to the first division.
* In 1964, Mr Mandela was sentenced to life imprisonment. That same year, Liverpool won the league for the first time in 17 years (the number matches the length of time Mr Mandela was on the run).
Coincidence? I think not.
Over the next 27 years, Liverpool became the most successful British football team of all time, winning a whole host of trophies including 12 league titles, 4 European Cups, 4 FA Cups and 2 UEFA cups.
Then:
* In 1990, after 27 years behind bars, Mr Mandela was released from prison. Three months later, Liverpool won the league title for the last time.
The facts speak for themselves: Liverpool’s dominance of English football began with Mr Mandela’s imprisonment in 1964 and ended with his release in 1990. At the time of writing, Mr Mandela has been a free man for 20 years, and in that time, Liverpool FC has failed to win the league title.
Coincidence? Once again, I think not.
Clearly, the club’s league success is inextricably linked to Mr Mandela’s liberty, and based on the evidence, the inarguable conclusion must be that Liverpool FC can only be successful in the league if Mr Mandela is in prison.
The destructive influence of Mr Mandela must be addressed NOW. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and it is our duty as fans to take action and address the damaging impact Mr Mandela’s freedom is having on the club’s ability to win league titles .
To that end, I have hired Lord Grabiner, QC and Richard Snowdon, QC to examine the terms of Mr Mandela’s 1990 release documents. Hopefully, they will be able to discover some legal loopholes/procedural inconsistencies/Judicial improprieties that would retrospectively invalidate the release.
Liverpool fans can do their part by campaigning for Mr Mandela’s immediate re-imprisonment and signing this online petition: http://www.JailMandela.com.
Upon collection of as many signatures as possible, the petition will be delivered to Jacob Zuma, the current current South African President, for (hopefully) immediate action.
Back in 1990, people around the world – including millions of Liverpool fans – were shouting ‘Free Mandela!’ as they campaigned for the great man’s release. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though – little did those fans know that they were effectively sabotaging their own club!
20 years later and things have to change change: ‘Jail Mandela!’ must become every Liverpool fan’s mantra, and every premiership ground must reverberate with the power of the Liverpool faithful’s commitment to the cause.
The needs of the club outweigh the needs of the individual; with the greatest fans in the world working together in the spirit of ‘The Liverpool Way’, the goal of having Mr Mandela returned to prison can be achieved, and Liverpool FC can be restored to its rightful place at the pinnacle of English football.
JAIL MANDELA!!
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Playing the worst football for years and joint top. I don’t know what to make of our play at the moment.
As for Rooney, lets not forget that there are Daytrippers at OT who go to see the likes of Rooney and probably made the reception for him, having said that I’d sooner have him at Utd than Shitty because He’ll come good again.
Yes I love Utd and SAF But I was born a Red so Its easy for me to Judge a player as I did Kanchelskis when we greeted him back with heavy boos the day he returned with Everton. His agent gave him bum advise as did Rooneys. Our grievence should be aimed at his agent and not Rooney who really is just a lad who was influenced by the Parasite Stretford. If he goes in January or the summer it’ll be down to SAF Who’ll have the final say and not Rooney.
Thank Fu*k we have SAF.
This made me chuckle:
” TheRSPCA have acted very quickly after recent incidents at the Emirates Stadiumm. If you see an Arsenal fan with a dog please ask then to call 0800 2-0-2-1-2-2-2-3 for free advise on how to hold onto a lead “
Further:
Which means that United fans have to thank Nelson Mandela for his long walk to freedom
Take that fucking scousers you hate Mandela we love him
@MG
The seagull’s name was Nelson.
Followed the wrong trawler, now he’ll take the long walk to freedom alone.
It’s in my blood says:
Knowing what i do, i cannot cheer for him.
Waht do you know?
Rooney will help us win 19 titles ,thats all that matters
To its in my blood (and STR) if you think you know something that we mere mortals dont then say something, if not shut the fuck up, not having a go at you STR but he’s dragged your name into this to gain more credibilty for his inside knowledge.
The facts we know are these Rooneys agent told Gill Rooney wouldnt be staying.
Rooney put out a statment (written by his agent but obviously approved by Rooney) questioning UTD’s ambition and the future quality of the squad.
Some people take direct action.
Rooney signs new 5 year deal.
What is likely to have happened and what we think happened.
Stretford who quite rightly is only in it for the money, that’s his job and he views getting asmuch money for his clients the correct thing to do.
He either approaches or is approached by City, an outline offer is made that would make your eyes water.
Stretford slowly but surely sows the seed in Rooneys mind, we lost the title, lost out in the CL, sold Ronaldo, Tevez, no ambtition, City have ambition and they’ll pay, on and on and on.
They have a problem they cant say they want to leave UTD for the money so the issue of ambitiion is concocted, Rooney is visited and is made to understand what moving accross the City would mean, a few other bits and pieces and hey presto new 5 year contract.
So in my view no apology required cos he is just saying soory for being a thick sod and being led by his agent but until I hear him say he’s staying I cant applaud him.
mattbw7
Mate, if i was sat with you now i’d happilly give you the whole thing!
I live and work in Manchester and my path often crosses many of the players very close associates.
I really don’t want to come across as some sort of name dropping “do you know who i know” sort of person, i’m a pretty normal sort of guy who just happens to have access to seriously good info from time to time.
Of course, i’m just an anon. name on a blog so i dont expect everyone to sit up and say “well it must be true cos It’s in my blood says so!
But, surely, STR does have some credibility?
He obviously cannot share how he knows.
He may never get info from his sources again, who knows!
As i said , to believe me or not is up to you, it doesn’t matter if you don’t and i wouldn’t blame you if you don’t.
I know Rooney had 100% agreed a deal with City.
I also know that he shit himself after the people outside his house AND the involvement of certain shadowy figures from Salford.
Paul Stretford tried to convince him he had sufficient contacts to deal with them (debateable) but Rooneys Mrs didn’t want things going down that road.
Time is the only thing that will show the truth,
There is a lot lot more to this than is currently being reported, even the prostitute incident isn’t wholly over.
i didnt hear or see this should we boo him debate when Roy Keane who was captain at the time held the club to ransom and asked for a transfer…..get over it
mattbw7
I have dragged his name into it to gain credibility???
Let me make this clear, i have NO idea what STR knows.
I just guess it’s along the lines of what i know.
I don’t give a flying f*** if you believe it or not, you have your beliefs and you’re welcome to them!
But to suggest i “STFU” just because you choose not to believe me is pathetic.
This site is surely about opinions isn’t it?
I’m entitled to mine as much as you are to yours.
I chose to share what i believe to be true, whats your problem?
You didnt say it was an opinion, itsinmyblood you said you knew something that the rest of us mere mortals dont and that STR probably knows as well, thats not an opinon, you are saying you have facts all Im saying is you have theories like the rest of us.
itsimmyblood, I also work in manchester, I know Stretford has links to some unsavoury people but then he’s unsavoury himself, plenty of people seem to want to attatch themselves to this story and this is probably the bullshit you mean when you are talking of shadowy salford figures.
I fully accept the part played by some of those who visited Rooneys des res, but unless you have facts about the rest its all bollocks cos Ive heard the same stuff to.
mattbw7
And?
So you feel i may be a liar?
Fine, it’s your opinion, you’re entitled to it!
I just suspect STR perhaps has similar knowledge to me on the basis of his assertion that Rooney HAD done a deal with City.
He’s choosen not to elaborate on it, i chose to a little.
to itsmyblood here you are with your comments that allude to the fact that you think STR is in posession of the same knowledge (rumours) as you.
“Knowing what i do, i cannot cheer for him.
When you take a look back on STR’s many many posts about Rooney, they are obviously very complimentary and even proud of his devotion to the shirt, the club.
It must have taken something extraordinary for STR to change his views.
STR obviously has the same knowledge.
For the whole story to come out at this stage will hurt the club, and as we will all agree. the club is the most important thing.”
The facts are dead easy, Rooneys agent thought he could get away with a move to City and miscalculate that we fans would moan a little and just put up with it, he probably came to this conclusion after seeing our attempts at removing the Glazers seemingly fizzle out and thought he could get away with anything.
All the rest is smoke an mirrors and the worse aspects in any story, where in the absence of info from the centre ie Rooney, Stretford and UTD then rumour and theory fills the void.
We won the game, most important thing, don´t forget.
mattbw7
Tell you what mate, we both live and work here, we’re both United fans, i’m happy to meet up with you in the next few days and tell you WHY i know. At that point you’ll be better placed to judge if i’m talking bollocks.
Are you a liar itsinmyblood? I haven’t said that, what i have said is you are guilty of believing some of the same rumours I’ve heard, as for the City deal I think anyone who lives or works in Manchester accepts the deal was proffered so Im not having a go at that little titbit but lets face it some of the murkier tales doing the rounds sound like the daily fail going on about M15 and M16 and the plot to kill Princess Di
im going to be at Pilsworth Distribution Centre seeing a cusotmer Tues or Weds I think theres a cafe on site or one will be near by
mattbw7
Sounds good, location fine, theres a McDonalds there, what time?
Ben Shepherd on goals on Sunday about Evra “When he can finish like that it’s a wonder it’s been 3 1/2 years since his last goal, he’s playing really well lately”.
Are you having a fucking laugh? I love Paddy but he’s been playing like dog shite port World Cup.
Let you know on monday by PM through the forum, I need to speak my customer on Monday to see when he’s available, I take it you work so Im guessing lunchtime, how does that sound
@its in my blood @mattbw7
get a grip you two of course there are all sorts of rumours going around the same thing happened when gerrard had agreed to join chelsea, allegedally stopped by underworld threats.
Ive had people ring me up from city saying they have been told such a thing from staff at eastlands.
Ive also had stories from a friend who,s mates wife is Fergies P.A.
The one thing you have to remember in all this is that if mere mortals have access to these rumours don’t you think that every newspaper hack in the country have also been given these stories and if there as even 10% truth in any they would already have been printed
i was talking in reference to the last game
now who’s immature
thats what im saying kingyp lots of rumours theories and bollocks
@mattbw7
Yes, that sounds fine.
@kinkyp
Yes, i hear what you’re saying!
I agree that rumours circulate all the time and one does have to be very wary accordingly.
As i said earlier, it’s up to all of us to believe or not believe.
I am only making this point because in this case, for me, it’s the quality of information, how it came to me and when that has given it credibility.
Does it constitute proof?
Highly unlikely, but it does make for an interesting chat over a coffee with mattbw7.
Rooney was off to City, but he bottled the move. Scotts right on this one, why would you ask to leave United in October, if you hadn’t somewhere lined up? Common sense tells you, the deal was already in place. As for the booing, never been an advocate of it, it’s counter productive imo.
I love a gossip itsintheblood, I take i can find your name in the forum section to get a PM to you
@ it’s in my blood
Yes I totally agree, football would be boring without all the gossip and rumour.
BTW. The story from Fergies PA is one of the most amazing I’ve ever heard and if true would astound and amaze but given today’s footballers would not surprise
There’s me thinking only women liked gossiping, then again, some on here are a lot like women lol.
Hi all,
I am with Scott on this one.
I can´t but wonder what will happen in a years time when he is “advised” by Stretford, once again, to ask for more money. He has gone down that road once and who´s to say he won´t do it again. That´s if he´s still with us in a years time, of course.
LUHG
COME ON YOU MIGHTY REDS………UNITED UNITED UNITED
If United fans can accept the Glazer take over, debt, strangulation of the club and still give them their money why the hell wouldn’t they cheer Wayne Rooney after he publicly stated he wanted to leave?
That’s a fair and balanced assessment, Scott.
Indifference is the best option. Whilst children and adults with the same mental capacity of their children will mindlessly cheer his name, it’s senseless to vilify your own players, certainly when he’ll be with you for the foreseeable future.
He was naive, greedy and incredibly stupid about the entire thing, and United fans were understandably aggrieved, but the situation’s now a different one. Nobody is obliged to welcome him back with open arms, nor do they need to imitate fans of clubs who’ve actually seen their player move to a rival club.
Things will never go back to what they were, that’s a given. It’s a tarnished relationship, if you will. However, I know I’ll compromise and look at Rooney’s place in the team as objectively as possible.
ED – Other question. How many of the die hard fans still go to OT? most of the attendants are glory hunters who don’t know who our manager is..
willie
Great point on Elmander, I say sell Rooney and buy Elmander, if we are lucky enough we might get Kevin Davis as a bonus….
CedarsDevil – Don’t think Evra would like Davies as a bonus. Gary Megson must be blowing a gasket, he signed Elmander for 11 million and was shite under him, now he’s banging the goals in.
willie
You know I was taking the piss right? I might be worried other wise! lol
Need you ask mate lol.
Guess not, with age creeps in a bit of naiveness !! lol
@kinkyp
Sounds interesting, do you want to come as well and we can really be like a load of women?!
I’ll get the biscuits!
@mattbw7
Not yet, but i’ll put that right today!
I don’t see the big deal. We say things that we end up regretting all the time, to our parents, children, lifelong friends, siblings, girlfriends and wives. It was ambition that drove Rooney from his beloved club into ours- don’t forget that. So it is logical that when his ambition isn’t being met he would question it. There are no fans playing for clubs these days and we should not be so naive as to think there are.
A question to anyone who could give me an answer…Villa have just signed Pires… I thought you could only sign players in the summer or in Jan, why is this different? Can anyone explain?
Cheers
CedarsDevil – He must have been unattached, which means he can move any time during the season.
@willierednut
Exactly, a player can join a club at any stage if they are not contracted to another club.
of course, why would they want to sign Robert Pires, I dont know…..
Thanks for the explanation lads….
What the hell is it with scarves and cloves these days? Blimey If I ever turned out for PE at my school in the cold winter of January in the 80′s in England I would have been bashed to death, and rightly so!
In today’s game I see these so called pro’s turning out dressed up for an Alaska winter, it makes me laugh. No matter how cold it is, surely a few minutes of running on the pitch would make you as warm as a bull….
Credit to most Brit players for turning out with short sleeves, even in winter….. And yes I know, even Rooney wears gloves these days! lol
Poor Sparky. A weekend of good results tarnished.
really really really dissapointed by the fans
!!!!! wtf were u cheering for, anyways i just wanted to get this by F U Rooney!!!!
As long as he wears the Red shirt with dignity..He is one of us and we will support him. I wonder what yu wrote when Keano had all them negotiations over his contract and his flirtations with the mob !!?? Some players are like that..if there wasnt that sort of players we wont have been raving about a Scholsey, Giggsy, Ole etc..
So move on. There are bigger things to worry about !!
AON: Americans Out Now says:
As long as he wears the Red shirt with dignity..He is one of us and we will support him. I wonder what yu wrote when Keano had all them negotiations over his contract and his flirtations with the mob !!?? Some players are like that..if there wasnt that sort of players we wont have been raving about a Scholsey, Giggsy, Ole etc..
Well he didn’t show much dignity lately, at least with keane you got naked honesty, fuck you pay me what im worth or im off (I don’t remember the mob connection) not some bollocks about ambition, future squad etc etc.
If Rooney had said there are balloons at City earning 200k plus a week, what am I worth, fuck you pay me, I’d have had more respect, why cos we are all entitled to earn as much as we can.
Roy Keane flirted with no one, but he did play hard ball with United. Ronaldo flirted with the mob, not fucking Keano! I’ve no problem Rooney getting the best deal for himself, after the previous season, the lad earned it, but all this ambition bollox, which was just that, fucking bollox. You’re right in one aspect, we have to move on now, but don’t expect some fans to have the same respect for Rooney again.
Its all about how people bring their points out… The lad had his head turned up his back side by the agent.
During Keano’s time we had the resources and we could buy big cos we were breaking records in the transfer market..So in the current scenario, we were’ nt so it was quite easy to turn the lads head.
He is not the brightest to understand that we afforded Berbatov for 30+ millions just a couple of seasons ago..!!
He knows the shit he got himself..and that offer has always been there according to Gill and Fergie…so his standoff hasnt really given him anymore I guess. There has been some tinkering with his Image rights.. I hear.
CedarsDevil says:
What the hell is it with scarves and cloves these days? Blimey If I ever turned out for PE at my school in the cold winter of January in the 80’s in England I would have been bashed to death, and rightly so!
LOL lost count of the times we came back from a cross country run, no time to shower before the next lesson, so cold you could hardly fasten the buttons on your shirt.
@Ash your king rooney stayed at United because he got scared, he doesn’t want to stay at united because he wants to… so quit saying shit like “If rooney had chosen city he wouldnt have signed for us” -pathetic!
Wednesdayx says:
@Ash your king rooney stayed at United because he got scared, he doesn’t want to stay at united because he wants to… so quit saying shit like “If rooney had chosen city he wouldnt have signed for us” -pathetic!
First of all, fuck off, secondly every single one of us knows its about money, what could he win with City that he aint already got, the problem was his agent felt he couldnt just argue the money case so he came up with the ambition bollocks, and if he did get scared its cos, we’ll beat em at home and we’ll beat em away, we’ll kill any bastards that get in our way, including the stockport massive!!!! loved the derby 320 million pounds worth of bus parkers!!!
I was at the game yesterday and my plan was to just clap him on politely but when I felt the mood in some areas of the stadium to boo him, I decided to cheer him on loudly. I just think booing your own is just plain wrong whatever you think of the man or the way he handled the contract situation.
With regards to the general picture it is way too simplistic to say it was all about money it was partly but it was genuinely what he said, it was about the continued ability of united to invest in top players to enable us to win the big trophies. We have all in the main been saying the same things for the last two years that we need to invest in top players and then when a player has the bollocks to say the same thing the booers crucify him. I just think people like that are hypocrites!! Don’t get me wrong I didn’t like the way he handled some parts of it but what he said was spot on the money.
I think what some united fans can’t handle is the fact Rooney said he wanted to leave to go to somewhere where he can win trophies. That has been the reason most of the players we sign have used to leave their clubs and now when the boot is on the foot for the first time some haven’t took kindly to it. Look Rooney owes us nothing hes a scouser who left everton to win trophies in 2004 and he thought in 2010 that it looked like we wouldn’t be winning anymore any time soon.
No question we have the weakest squad for a long time so I 100% agreed with his anology. It turns out with the league being so shit this year that we could sneak the title and maybe next summer after Rooneys little chat with the glazers that they may actually spend somewhere near to the 25m a season promised plus a one off spend for a top player.
We may be all thanking Rooney by then for smoking the glazers out of their financial straightjacket.
@Natzca 11.23
An apologize for us, the fans. The ones who always loved him and cheered for him, no matter what. The ones he turned his back to and litterarily fucked over, saying that the team we love is shit and dont have ambitions. For money.
That’s what we want.
Rooney owes us nothing, if anything, it’s the manager he owes, big time.
We all owe SAF something, ao much he’ll never be repaid for the things he’s done for our club. But Rooney, well, he owes us something worth 180k a week now! And quite honestly, i can’t see him delivering that atm.
Pisses me off, as I feel he should have been given same amount or less money after spitting in the face of the club. Instead they went on and gave him more money.
But then again, it was SAF-approved, and i guess that’s good enough for me, because SAF has always earned our trust.
We may be all thanking Rooney by then for smoking the glazers out of their financial straightjacket
yeah thanks bozzer, until Wayne came out so bravely Iwouldnt have had a clue about the Glazers spending policey, plus if they’ll lie to us why wouldnt they spin Rooney! ffs
@mattbw7 by saying there was money involved is that your shite defense?
bozzer99, i dont agree withthe booing but I didnt cheer him either, if others want to thats for them but im not going to cheer just to outshout them.
Oh and just in case i forget I should thank rooney I guess for highlighting the glazers spending policy, i mean without him i would never have worked it out for myself anf if the glazers lie to us why wouldnt they lie to rooney.
well Wednesdayx please do give us the benefit of your superior insight (@mattbw7 by saying there was money involved is that your shite defense?)
Are you really saying its cos some of us went to his house (something his agent must have contemplated might occur) that he changed his mind.
I really need to hear this.
Oh and while im waiting on your considered and fullsome theory as to way the spud faced nipper didn’t sign for City Wednesdayx, I just need to say that whatever the reason we all now know he will never ever play for city, whether he loves or hates us, he will never ever play for city, no matter the financial inducements he will never ever play for city, no matter if we never sign another player he will never ever play for city. City, city, nobody knows thier name!
@mattbw7 well that could be another reason, lol but certainly not because (in his heart) he wanted to stay. Rooney was fucking over it, his shite form, all the criticism… he wanted out instead he came out with shite excuses and disrespecting the club, please…
well wednesday if wasnt the money what the fuck was it,stop fucking about you clutz and grow a pair!!! : )
oh and just so you know until he comes out and says on tv he wants to stay i want him out of the club i support but at least he wont go to city, so instead of rubbishing everyone else wednesday please give us the benefit of your insight.
Buy Elmander, what turd wrote that. Elmander is a swede and as such should at best be slaughtered. Im not racist but at times can be rather selective. I like the Norwegians, like the danes except for the ones who drive in sweden and i have huge respect for the Finns but the swedes, no chance. Elmander (like all swedes) is a turd, you can polish the turd as much as you like but its still a fucking turd. I should know, my wifes one and i stopped polishing her years ago.
He fancied a cow in a different field.
or a goat!!!
@mattbw7
I’m not saying Rooney enlightend us but he has the given the Glazers a wake up call. They may have span Rooney aswell the proof will be in January or summer.
In general I think the Rooney situation was the game changer for the Glazers they couldn’t afford to lose another star and they realised at that point that there strategy had to change. For the last two years they have been cutting not investing in the team hoping to get by and at the same time building up the cash pile in the club to pay off the PIKS.
When the Rooney situation happened along with fear of more protests if they take money out to pay PIKS which would affect attendances and the Liverpool distressed sale they realised they had to protect there asset by investing and not cutting. So the strategy changed keep Rooney reassure him, re-finance the PIKS at a lower interest charge which means they don’t take the big dividend out of united now to pay them and then use that money instead for transfers in Jan and Summer. Very clever really and what this does is protect the asset and keep its value high.
The problem is the debt will be still there and will have to be paid at some point they can’t keep such a highly leveraged business going and going. I expect them to sell within the next three years. Lets hope so
LUHG
@mattbw7i gave it already, you arse and that’s what it is! and “grow a pair” ?? wtf
oj mattbw7 leave goats alone you filth. lol. I realise im smoking but come on mate the goat love drug is not the answer.
GoatinaUnitedshirt – Slow brain day? The Elmander thing was a joke, though he’s banging the goals in lately, more so than our sulky Bulgarian.
No you didnt wednesday you only alluded to the late night visit to his house, whereas Im saying definitively it was a money issue, always was, how do I come to this, cos it was all driven by is agent.
Hey goat, one of my fave posters, surely your goat is better.
Bozzer, I think the glazers tell rooney what he wants to hear, when it doesn’t materialise he spits his dummy out cos he has too, as thats the reason he wants to leave isnt it? except we have him on a 5 year contract and as such is a more valuable asset.
willierednut – slow brain day, thats everyday aint it. Thank god it was a joke. There seems to be all and sundry tipped to be our next player but when Elmander was mentioned i had to step in.
Yeah hes tapping them in but thats because the way Bolton play, hes the target man from the Davies flick ons. Berbatov is the deep lying centre forward who more often than not sets up others. If anyone at our club is to blame for the recent dry up of goals then Fletcher needs a good talking to. Carrick is a holding midfielder and his selflessness allows the fullbacks to race forward. Scholes does his job to perfection but Fletcher seems to be jack of all trades and master of none. A bit like, dare i say it Gerrard. Hes neither a great deffensive midfielder or a usefull fill in on the wings, hes not the greatest at the defence splitting pass nor a great one to burst into the box. He hasnt got a distance shot either. I think hes a good player, a great squad payer hes just not Fletcherino, if you get my drift.
Ok people lets bash th goat for having a go at the untouchable Fletcher.
Every team even us needs a fletcher and for that I applaud him, he has persevered after some dogs abuse only at the mo he looks off the pace, maybe he still has the turkish bug.
@mattbw7 you totally missed it…. and you’re drunk!
Fletch has been well off the pace this season, compared to last year any way. Sadly, a lot of our players seem to be off the pace, makes it all the more surprising we’re joint top and still unbeaten.
Im not dissing Fletch as I think hes a great squad player but feel if we are to score more then we have to be more adventurous and take risks. But now Ferdinand and Vidic are back fulltime together maybe Fergie will be more adventurous with the midfield. Would help as well if gigs and valencia werent injured. Maybe im too harsh on the boy (Fletcher).
Everyone at OT gets the shits Montezumas revenge, maybe our own mexican screamer has something to do with it.
Wednesdayx says:
Rooney said there was no quality in the team… Did anybody forget that?? Why can’t he just make a public apology to the FANS and his Team mates?!? that would benefit him so much! doesn’t anybody think he should do that?
Wednesdayx says:
@Ash your king rooney stayed at United because he got scared, he doesn’t want to stay at united because he wants to… so quit saying shit like “If rooney had chosen city he wouldnt have signed for us” -pathetic!
Well I found these on this thread but ive still to hear your opinion.
I may be drunk but tomorrow I will be sober, you will still be without an opinion of your own.
@MattBW @10.26 No your not a mate of mine, we are all Reds as far as i know on here.
i call my mates much worse than something as soft as “idiots” thats friendly for a Jock.
30 years of attending Old Trafford, great , i can respect that its 11 more years than my age.
If you dont think this is blog that backs getting the Glazer out of Old Trafford then you dont read, that was my point! Which like most of your posts are aimed at causing controversy.
If unless your head is buried in the sand tell us Mattbw What have the Glazer done for United?
Spot on Ed @ 14.35 on the button.
A contradiction in terms and beliefs.
@mattbw7 your playing games and I’m out (count 16 back or so)
err i ithink the point you where making redscot was that anyone who attended the match should hang thier heads in shame, grow up man, I was going to OT when the Edwards where in charge another bunch of money grabbers IMO.
Do you think I back the Glazers because I still attend, its about the team always has been and if you read all my posts you will see you are incorrect in your assumption that my posts are there to cause controversy, in fact most are positve, however I give my opinions unvarnished and when people take on a holier than thou attittude I point it out at the risk of receiving stick.
I have so many memories of going built up over many years that I cannot and will not tear myself away from attending.
To many people generalise on here and fail to take into consideration the many disparate fan groups and individuals where opinions on the best way forward differ wildly, my own is that the Glazers will take us to the brink of a Leeds type scenario if not into it and do you know what I’ll still be going.
Wednesdayx says:
@mattbw7 well that could be another reason, lol but certainly not because (in his heart) he wanted to stay. Rooney was fucking over it, his shite form, all the criticism… he wanted out instead he came out with shite excuses and disrespecting the club, please…
from 16 or so back, Im still waiting for your opinion.
@mattbw7 that’s my opinion and the truth, so.. what do you think??
@Mattbw there in lays the problem! You Slavishly attend. I note you did not answer my question mate, what have the Glazer done for United? other than rob it through eye watering leveraged debts.
Currently £450 million interest payments.
Yes I do think you back the Glazers bye attending, dont you appreciate they are there for the money.
They have not invested a nickel in united! Dont you believe a proactive buisnessman would develop its buisness, not only in easy to do commercial aspects!
I am sorry mate for the good of United long term you are going to have to make a big decision.Stop going to old Trafford.They will ruin United. its simple to see with their trackrecord to date, not only at United with their other buisness enterprises.
You are feeding the Glazer and sitting like a “Churchill dog nodding” I accept this the robbery at United.
Ok redscot I thought my reference to the edwards family answered your question re the Glazers, ie neither they nor the Glazers put anything into UTD, it was the Edwards that under Martin that turned us into a publicly quoted company and from that that point we where laid bare to the type of leveraged buy out of the club that we now have.
Now consider this for all those that have chosen not to attend, has that significantly reduced the attendance on match days?
Bear in mind that two thirds of UTDs income is now from SKY and overseas TV deals as well UTDs own sponsorship and merchandising activities, dont believe me check the bond prospectus.
So do I stop going to see someone take my place that doesn’t give a fuck, cos all the new people going must be that way if so many no longer go since the Glazers arrival, the way you hear it so many people say they no longer attend the stadium should be half full on match days.
@Mattbw i understand how we got to the buy out……Namely if you know your facts Rupert Murdoch and a sad fight over horse sperm. etc etc.
2 thirds of whose income? thats nonesense mate, i cant accept this drivvle.
i dont need to check the bond prospectus Matt …… most knowledgable financiers would not have touched what they arranged with a barge pole.
Matt there is no one to take your place, the waiting list as gone and the attendances are dropping, yesterday 74123 i think. And that is cooked, as far as i saw on the tv much more empty seats than that!
They wont leave till we get a serious dose of failure on the field and their income drops big time.
its not for the love of United……. its money the green back.
Thank god for Sir Alex and his loyalty and determination.
Good Night.
Red scot thats exactly why the bond was sold, because incomes from non match day sources are 2/3rds of total income.
The debt is the road to ruin but it doesn’t change the income facts and yes the attendance was near to 75k for wigan ffs, what does that tell you.
The horse sperm and murdoch are footnotes, as a publicly quoted company we where always at risk of a leveraged take over.
Did you buy shares through Sharholders UTD at the time of the takeover, did you march the other week, did you take part in the arndale protest a week later?
Oh ans for your financiers wouldnt touch the bond with a barge pole, it was sold out! As FSW would say fact.
This the real problem here, too many people think there is one simple solution to the problem, ignoring certain facts when it suits them, pontificating when it costs them nothing either monertarily or morally, I wish you no ill feeling redscot but you dont have the answers and nor do I.
@mattbw7 so what’s your response? ain’t it the bloody truth.
Dude,
if he wearing United’s Shirt on the pitch, its definitely because fergie thinks, he is capable of wearing that Shirt on the pitch to represent us. and i do trust my manager on this one !!
Rooney must also have assumed the mixed reaction of the fans, and he must be well prepared as well.
Let him concentrate more on his footy skills rather than the assumed disturbing behavior of the local fans.
Give him another chance to Kiss our badge, after his final touch or assist can fly the ball right into the net for us.
have some faith people and if our inner conscience can not let us sing his song again, lets not just boo a player wearing our shirt, he is ours after all !!……………..
Hail united …………. !!
Im confused Wednesdayx, you list shite form and critisism and then just say he wanted out, are you really trying to say those where the main drivers, he only got critisised for shite form after the WBA game and more so when the story broke a couple of days later, he told the club on August 14th and I dont recall to many of us having a pop at him around that time.
I’ve said this in a previous post and i will say it again. Rooney was right and I totally agree with him. We DO need new players. We can’t always rely on Scholes or Giggs to come save us when they are fit. Everyone knows they can’t play three games a week but still no one is putting their hands up (Except Nani) and saying that they will take responsibility. I’m sick and tired of the Carrick backwards and sideways passes. He was bought to the club for his passing ability wasn’t he? So where is the passing? And his defending? just running along just doesn’t cut it. “Stick out your leg or do something dammit!!!!”.
And about Fletcher? I dunno…. How do u play when your midfield partner is so crap. Do you go forward and help out the attack or do you stay back and help out the defense because you know in the back of your mind that your midfield partner isn’t worth the thing you do in the toilet?
Despite the win we weren’t that good. I mean… we played against nine men. I know we didn’t need to go all out but we needed to show the ruthlessness that Sir Alex said our club is lacking. So I think we should stop with this Rooney nonsense and focus on other stuff. The club isn’t just about one player.
He only raised the point the Green and Gold army have been banging on about for months, about squad investment & lack of investment. Hes completely right ie we sell our number two goalkeeper in Ben Foster for £7m, and look like buying a new number 1 for £3.5m. Investment in the squad over the last 3 years is laughable
well… by jugding these past months it sure as hell looked like it! and are you saying that rooney honestly didn’t want to leave the club but instead he got persuade by his agent?, so that’s your excuse for rooney? where the hell was his loyalty to the club?? and then there were talks to City?? ffs
Im just saying lets move on, hes not the first person to turn a contract down, and talk of him in discussions with city is purely speculation. The way the stuff came out in the open was unfortunate, his agent is a fu*ckin leech (Ask Andy Cole). We need to get behind him and the team and stop giving other supporters groups something to talk about. I for one havnt forgot what wayne rooney has done for mufc over the last 6 years, hes won the lot, i think that far outweighs the silly contract dispute. Lets forgive and move on.
Have any of you guys ever contemplated leaving your current place of employment to do the same thing you are doing now somewhere else for more money? I have and even though i was otherwise happy I still did something about it. I offered my services to another company for more money and they accepted.
The way Rooney went about doing what he did was obviously wrong. All of this should have been handled internally. Still… kicking a ball is his job. And if he leaves January or at the end of the season then he must leave. No hard feelings. The club will survive like it always has done.
My biggest fear is not what will happen when Rooney leaves. Others will score the goals. It’s what going to happen when Giggs and Scholes retire. Who in our current midfield beside these two can unlock a defense the way these two can? Who will be the supply line for Hernandez and the like to score all the goals they will need to score if we want to stay top? From what I have seen this season…. No one. Maybe Nani if he stops all his crap. But then again he does not play in the center of the field. I do NOT want us to turn into Liverpool.
kameleon – Leave those player worries to Fergie. He will have summat up his sleeve, Scholes and Giggs will STILL be doing the business next season.
Once a scouse always a scouse…he said that United are not ambitious and then pointed his finger towards his agent…only cowards do that…when he shagged the hooker did his agent shag instead of him…did his agent tell him to say yes when he got married?….come on give us a break the truth is we have a player who has not performed since april…and is being paid how much?….definitly much more than he deserves….my idea a swap deal bring on Ronaldo and send the greedy scouse bastard to Madrid
King Eric @ 13:18: “Leave those player worries to Fergie. He will have summat up his sleeve, Scholes and Giggs will STILL be doing the business next season.”
Agreed – SAF plays the long-game very well. Imagine – TheLads have not yet got it into second gear on a consistent basis and they are joint-top. Lots of youngsters have been “blooded” – some will make it big (like Chicharito) while others will go the way of Chris Eagles and KieranBloodyRichardson but the team will roll on with the OldFootieKnight at the helm.
There has been some talk recently about “four year cycles” and that pretty much seems right to me – the team of CR7/Carlitos/WayneRooney is being dismembered and the NewUTD have not yet been put together but there are impressive parts. And, equally, all the talk about formations seems to miss the point that skilled players make formations work – Paul Scholes is a prime example of the difference that real quality makes or, to look at matters from the other side, ThreeLungPark is an example of what happens to the team when quality is replaced by effort.
None of us have any idea about the “growth trajectory” of twenty-somethings like KikoTheKid and Danny Welbeck (who are both actually 19), Anderson, Gabriel Obertan, Rafael and Fabio (also 19), Chris Smalling, and especially Bebe – or the other youngsters lower on the converyor belt such as Daniele Perucci, Paul Pogba, Ravel Morrison, Corry Evans, Tom Cleverley, Josh King, John Cofie, Will Keane, Tom Tunnicliffe, and so on and on. Most of these guys won’t be good enough but the fact that SAF believes in them is good enough for me.
The big “player worry” is WayneRooney – gloriously talented or self-destructive ?
Kiko the kid should start on the bench, every time he starts a game, he does nowt.
Willie – that’s an accurate assessment as far as it goes. What’s missing is that when he starts he rarely gets much “service”. (In fact, this seems to be a common problem for anyone who plays the lone striker role at UTD.) When he comes on in the later stages of a game then the balance-of-play tilts torwards and he is, so to speak, in the center of things.
Another curious thing about KikoTheKid is that when he scored against Villa last weekend I didn’t see one of those mob scenes/group hugs – I commented on the same lack of group solidarity directed towards him at some point last year when he had scored. The guy seems to be on a different page from his team-mates.
Don’t think there’s much in that denton, the score was 2 1 at the time, the players were probably more concerned on getting the ball back and then getting on with the game. Maybe I’m being harsh on the lad, but he doesn’t seem to have much impact, when he starts any game. Strange decision from SAF to play him up on his own, when he had Rooney and Hernandez on the bench and for Berbatov, I’ll dodge that issue for now.
I dont have an opinion about the fans’ reception for Rooney but I did notice one thing: the Stretford End’s gasp was distinctly louder and more painful when Rooney’s excellent header was tipped over by Gomes. Love him or hate him, they want him to get back to scoring (on the field, that is!). They’ll worry about forgiveness after the end of the season when we audit our trophy cabinet.
Wednesdayx says:
well… by jugding these past months it sure as hell looked like it! and are you saying that rooney honestly didn’t want to leave the club but instead he got persuade by his agent?, so that’s your excuse for rooney? where the hell was his loyalty to the club?? and then there were talks to City?? ffs
Up until the Bayern game he had carried us, even in the 2nd leg when clearly injured he fully influenced the game, then he was out injured, had a shit world cup and on August 14th his agent to told gill he was leaving.
As for loyalty, he didnt come to us cos he loved us it was so we could pay him accordingly and provide a platform for success, so why should I expect loyalty from the prick. In my view the scenario is his agent has talks with city, a mega deal is outlined, stretforf sells it to rooney along two lines, one is UTD want you on the cheap and questioning our ambition, Rooney who we all know is not the sharpest knife in the drawer makes up his mind (though what challenge there is to be had at city I dont know, surely you want to go and win trophies in another european league).
Now his agent needs to engineer a scenario that will sell to the fans, so we have the infamous statement about ambition etc etc, clearly designed to get us the fans on board, surely we feel the same way dont we? A pathetic own goal in my view, so he gets visited upon by a few more vociferous fans (and others ) and regardless of what was said outside his house he realised moving to city meant he couldn’t live or go out in the city again, ever, this coupled with a willingness by utd to keep negogiating kept him at the club (for now) it was all driven by greed and not medals, Rooney played his part for sure. I still think he will go and until I see him on MUTV actually say he’s staying then I cant support him.
Now I need you to tell me where I have made an excuse for Rooney.
He may be the best player in england but he’s just a modern proffesional footballer, who gives a fuck about no one but himself.
For those that are looking for some sort of apology from Rooney I am sorry if this has been posted already He is giving an exclusive interview tommorow on MUTV at 4.00pm uk time.
You can sit with your rotten eggs and soiled tomatoes, or put on your lippy and blow kisses.
The choice is yours….. lol.
There is truth in the Exclusive on MUTV at 4.00pm
@Redscot an apology is better than his stupid silence, but like someone said in here… rooney doesn’t owes us anything.
RedScot – Ah bugger off you lol. Couldn’t give a toss what he says, just put the ball in the onion bag, is all I’m concerned with now. If he goes in the summer, so be it, United will continue to win trophies, with or without Rooney.
@mattbw7 i didn’t mean excuses, I meant your defense towards rooney but it looks like you and I aren’t going to agree, anyway I won’t be cheering rooney’s name anytime soon.
Well wedsnedayx, it was more a condemnation than a defense but you are right its just an opinon, I like you won’t be cheering for the scouse twat.